psyker-class

[ripe obsidian]

This was my build

[deft stump]

But one is without proof. Ppl with proof is alot worse if they are those kind.

[pale prairie]

That’s why agent flames you. You beat his circles so he gets mad

[pale prairie]

I mean yeah and then I am gone after 10 sec and block them

[pale prairie]

Lmao what no quietude?

[ripe obsidian]

Quietude is for cowards

Does this look like the face of a coward?

[deft stump]

It sucks if you were there first though.

[ripe obsidian]

This is the second person I have blocked in this game

I think the first was intentionally trolling or summat

[pale prairie]

I don’t know if they have one

[pale prairie]

Well I meant more on the endgame screen

I’ll play through with a dipshit cause they usually end up dying anyway and then leaving

[pale prairie]

Yeah I have blocked one guy for racist slurs

[pale prairie]

How does one accidentally troll?

[ripe obsidian]

True.

[deft stump]

Too many. I block obvious aimbots, cheaters, rude people, griefers and trolls.

[pale prairie]

Oooof

[deft stump]

Hits a burster with plasma aiming for the shotgunner.

[ripe obsidian]

Most people just don't talk

[pale prairie]

Reminds me of my CoD days

[ripe obsidian]

Other than 'gg' at the end

[pale prairie]

Yeah maybe it’s just america

[ripe obsidian]

At least you can't teamkill like you could with Elf javelins in VT2

[pale prairie]

I think I have had 1 friend request in 500 hours of this game

[pale prairie]

Lmao

That was annoying stuff

[deft stump]

Aimbots are more China imo.

[pale prairie]

Wasn’t gonna say it buuuuuut

[zealous wing]

i accidentally shot a splody barrel at the other three randos in the squad behind me with my FGS special attack. either they didnt notice it was me, or were silently annoyed. still got gg back

[deft stump]

It's fairly obvious when they spin around on vet shooting every special they couldn't even see.

And I do mean they do the aimbot spaz around while doing it.

[pale prairie]

I think people recognize that splosions happen

Also hexis do you sleep?

[zealous wing]

ye but there were no enemies

i have not

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-him-scar-lion-king-lion-hyena-gif-5988335

[zealous wing]

ill kill you first

probably

[pale prairie]

Unlikely

[deft stump]

There are accidents and there are clear shots made.

[pale prairie]

I’ll just say “LOOK BEHIND YOU”

[zealous wing]

idk it felt like it would look intentional

[pale prairie]

Then splode you while the PTSD does its work

[zealous wing]

i almost wanted to say sorry but, i had no excuse

[deft stump]

Also, if you hit it twice... once, is one thing.

[zealous wing]

if theres something behind me, you wouldnt say to look behind me, you'd shoot it, or let me die

[pale prairie]

And watch directly lmao

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379

Burster train behind you!

Have my cake and shoot it too

[zealous wing]

ye like that, thats more effective

if youre gonna assassinate, do it right, plausible deniability

[pale prairie]

Nah I’ll clip the whole thing and post it here

I want infamy

I need dom to say:

[zealous wing]

to repeat you, "why not both"

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[pale prairie]

Cause saying into the mic preclip:

“Bout to ruin this man’s whole world”

Is way funnier

[deft stump]

You all just want me to trust you less.

[pale prairie]

I feel I have you already typed as the NONTRUSTING type

[zealous wing]

if all else fails, karien, you CAN trust me, i make mistakes but ill help best i can if i fuck up :D

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/kinda-sus-bro-cat-gif-14584810346138711389

[zealous wing]

i blew someone up by accident, stimm'd them when i had a med

[deft stump]

Everyone is sus.

[pale prairie]

Yeah see I knew you would say that

Such a sussybaka

[deft stump]

Game of playing solo.

Sighs.

Like playing pubs but worse in a way.

You expect a little more than pubs but nope... Just the same.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-very-sad-saturday-night-live-its-very-sad-how-unfortunate-sad-to-hear-that-gif-24052338

[deft stump]

Is basically like that at times.

So is sometimes like, why deal with the ping when it's just like hitting quickplay?

[pale prairie]

I wouldn’t know basically 99% of my hours are spamming quickplay or finding havoc group

[tulip kettle]

"little bit of a jam" 😂

[zealous wing]

i was so glad i rememberd to clip

[deft stump]

Maybe my depressed side is leaking...

[ripe obsidian]

Hello, depression friend

[deft stump]

I should get more sugary stuff. Better.

[ripe obsidian]

I support this idea

[deft stump]

Ice cream getting stupidly ex, so I guess candy is best bet.

[tulip kettle]

I went to bed and can't sleep

[deft stump]

Just stress yourself.

You'll pass out.

[tulip kettle]

Think I must try Six's voidstrike build

[plucky flax]

You never trust us to begin with.

[tulip kettle]

You think it's enough stress?

Also @plucky flax why you been bullying karien so much she would rather play qp than with gaslightmains 😭

[deft stump]

WDYM?

[deft stump]

No clue. Playing psyker already fit stress.

[plucky flax]

I said im not unsanctioned many times.

[plucky flax]

No she flames me though.

[deft stump]

You are though.

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

Also, Beans is clearly trustworthy.

[plucky flax]

Beans

[pale prairie]

Well beans was trying to barrel me….and trick me with a fake stun barrier

But I am sure it was an accident

[tulip kettle]

hahahaha yeah they been doing that a lot recently 😂

or playing "staff melee only"

[pale prairie]

Man to be that skilled/bored

[deft stump]

Wot.

[pale prairie]

Is true

Then they jumped off a bridge

Like full on no getting ledged

[deft stump]

Is everything but a lie barring myself then?

[pale prairie]

No I think beans treats everyone how they deserve

https://tenor.com/view/i-deserved-it-sophie-good-grief-i-had-it-coming-netflix-gif-3865606048287632992

[ripe obsidian]

Why so?

[deft stump]

Eh?

[zealous wing]

damn really no ones playing heresy this early

trying to QP in and its not finding anyone in the usual time frame :/

[plucky flax]

Bro do you not sleep?

[zealous wing]

PFFT

[tulip kettle]

because i have not played strike in ages and that build looks sick

[deft stump]

What is sleep?

I need my body to pull the plug.

I understand it

[zealous wing]

aand ofc its the bomb one

[plucky flax]

You are built different.

[tulip kettle]

you know what you must do

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-13048146

[deft stump]

Or maybe I just need blood.

[plucky flax]

Btw Monday i can play morning my time

Until about afternoon

For your weekly carry service.

[ripe obsidian]

I'm having a lot of fun with it

[tulip kettle]

what do you run on the staff?

[strong gulch]

For YOUR weekly carry service.

[ripe obsidian]

Nexus/Surge + Flak/Crit chance. Not sure if Carapace would be better than Flak

Bowling balls forever

[strong gulch]

Think it depends on what you in particular want to kill more of.

I don't know the ins and outs of it tho.

Like the charge thresholds.

[tulip kettle]

hmm i shall experiment

i think with ds/deimos probably no need for cara

[strong gulch]

I know deadvoid runs maniac and crit chance.

[pale prairie]

DS is a crutch apparently

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't experimented much with Voidstrike breakpoints in Auric

[strong gulch]

I am not good at controlling double balls.

[tulip kettle]

but also im thinking to just run it with fgs and drop solidity for anticipation

[deft stump]

Ah, okay.

[strong gulch]

Like knowing that I have a crit and then swaying to make sure the 2 balls hit different targets if on on a big boi.

[deft stump]

Hiya Beans.

[strong gulch]

FGS made VS a lot more fun for me. I still don't really love the staff.

[strong gulch]

hi

[tulip kettle]

before i bother testing, does this node work for staff primary?

[strong gulch]

yes

[tulip kettle]

awesome

[strong gulch]

primary and secondary

edit: for VS

[plucky flax]

That was what I meant. Your (her) Service of carrying me

[pale prairie]

@ripe obsidian do you notice warpsplitting??

[deft stump]

This is a lie, you carry.

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, a lot

[tulip kettle]

carries himself off ledges maybe 😌

[ripe obsidian]

on both assail and vs

[tulip kettle]

what do you think of transfer peril blessing on it? i know youre losing potential dmg but...

really leaning into the "infinite bowling balls" could be good

[pale prairie]

Yeah I have assail but never paired with voidstrike

[plucky flax]

No u

[strong gulch]

Transfer peril used to be meta before true aim.

You could do flurry surge.

[pale prairie]

Surge gives a small crit bonus now too

[summer prairie]

Agent lost 20 in a row once but never takes more than a few attempts with Karien, seems pretty conclusive

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-grand-theft-auto-gta-lcs-gta-one-liners-i-know-what-youre-thinking-toni-how-the-mighty-have-fallen-gif-17450917

[tulip kettle]

yeah i would drop nexus for it and keep surge

but transfer can proc more than once per shot unlike reworked true aim

so one bowling ball into a horde can quell like half your peril in one go

just cant decide if its really needed if running warp unbound

[zealous wing]

no weve been clutched by arby 2x now

[wispy bay]

If you run SG, I would say keep nexus.

[tulip kettle]

also why tf dont warp speed and endurance linger during warp unbound

[wispy bay]

Transfer works more consistent with flurry.

[tulip kettle]

it seems to me like i would have less need to keep nexus if running SG as i already have over 40% crit chance, not including true aim

[summer prairie]

nexus is still good during warp unbound

[wispy bay]

Even at 40% is still less than 50/50.

[tulip kettle]

yeah sure, i know i would be mssing out on a bit of potential max dmg

[wispy bay]

While with nexus, it is like 55-60%, you can feel the difference.

[tulip kettle]

but im thinking of those times where WU ends and, as we dont have PA on this build, i will be waiting for CD

and i dont have solidity to quell efficiently

whereas with transfer peril i should never need to quell and just shoot forever

[summer prairie]

but without transfer do you even get much SG uptime

[strong gulch]

There's a SD VS build in the pins. It was made before SG quelled 50% of peril.

Instead of transfer peril it has BM.

BM and transfer aren't the same, but it's kind of a pick either thing. Blessing vs talent point.

[summer prairie]

does Uptime show average SG/precognition stacks

[tulip kettle]

yeah i thought of BM but i dont know how to afford it

[strong gulch]

no clue

can't use the mod

BM does make a difference

[wispy bay]

What your build? @tulip kettle I can test out.

[tulip kettle]

im just theorycrafting based on what six posted

[wispy bay]

I have 5 VS staff, lol.

[tulip kettle]

this but dropping solidity and the minor peril reduction node for +5% ranged and anticipation

[ripe obsidian]

SG only has 10 seconds of downtime, so I don't feel a need for more quelling

[tulip kettle]

yeah i mained VS back in the beforetimes

back when you could 1 shot crushers with it

[deft stump]

Nu! You carry!

[tulip kettle]

10 seconds is a long time for me not to be spamming blue balls

and i REALLY dont want to have to quell if im gonna bother running VS

[tulip kettle]

the more i think about this the more im like, actually, why to any of this

if i have SG and an FGS im just gonna end up bonking everything anyway

[zealous wing]

if you took warp siphon instead, while a long way out, that could get your cooldown over much quicker, though thats really missing out on the stacks of dmg

[tulip kettle]

oh yeah nah i wouldnt run siphon on this it needs DD 100%

[wispy bay]

The missing crit from Nexus makes Transfer Surge significantly weaker.

[zealous wing]

cooldown aura also nice, possibly cooldown curios as well, become a zealotpsyker in constant berserk

[ripe obsidian]

DD uptime is quite good.

[tulip kettle]

now, EK with SG and siphon for perma uptime is great fun

[tulip kettle]

i think nexus is kind of overrated here

[zealous wing]

i am joking ofc, sleep deprived goober

[tulip kettle]

the diff between 42.5% and 55% is negligible

really

[wispy bay]

Transfer goes much better with Flurry because you don't have to rely on crit proc that much.

Max nexus is +20% no?

[tulip kettle]

but flurry does nothing with lmb

whereas spamming lmb with surge and transfer is perma spam no quelling

even during the SG downtime

[wispy bay]

Yeah, but Vstrike M1 is kind of meh.

[tulip kettle]

i think maybe i just need to not run FGS to make myself actually use the strike

[wispy bay]

Also, you don't need to full charge M2 for Flurry to trigger.

[tulip kettle]

which means i dont need anticipation which means i can run solidity like six's build and just do it that way

yeah i know dood 🙂

[sturdy reef]

I fucking hate the event modifier

[wispy bay]

Even Rem feels the pain...

[strong gulch]

I need 3 missions.

Someone carry me?

[tulip kettle]

i will play again

i should be in bed

but now i want to play voidstrike

[strong gulch]

lmao

[tulip kettle]

im also wondering why i need assail on this

i could just run smite for access to PA and 100% SG/WU uptime

[sturdy reef]

Im playing it on gloriana

the randos keep on barreling me

[strong gulch]

It ain't the best on me. That's for sure.

[wispy bay]

Dom, there is a very stupid trait, but does relatively good damage on Vstrike: Blazing spirit.

It is so dumb.

[tulip kettle]

now this is a hard troll

expert level

[wispy bay]

Surprisingly not that trolly...

[tulip kettle]

with my 40% blast radius voidstrike that one shots everything it hits, or stops and hits nothing else?

im gonna go ahead and say thats a no from me dawg

[sturdy reef]

my martyrdom hget popped so quickly

🙁

[wispy bay]

If you don't, then let me.

Do some games with Potato?

[strong gulch]

ye

[sturdy reef]

okie

Ill do a couple

[strong gulch]

https://discord.gg/eHCEjRnS

[tulip kettle]

behold

the worst voidstrike build you have ever seen

[zealous wing]

guarentee you mine was worse

[strong gulch]

terrible tbh

[zealous wing]

wanna know what mine was?

cuz i do

i just know i didnt make trees for each staff

o.o

[strong gulch]

😭

[zealous wing]

lemme see if i still have the staff even

[tulip kettle]

oh lawdy

[zealous wing]

used it but never upgraded it, this was a very early psyker tool

like, pre 30

[deft stump]

None of you have seen my builds...

[zealous wing]

dom do you want to take the build on a test run on heresy with me?

i barely have braincells for heresy atm so it'd be funny for us both to die

but not TOO fast

[tulip kettle]

id be down for some in a bit probably

[deft stump]

Most ppl have mods to view stuff so...

[zealous wing]

yeah but how many check the builds thoroughly of peeps they play with often

make the cosmetics exactly the same as another actual main build

[deft stump]

I don't care. My build is usually so horrible anyway.

I even have to tell ppl they are better off asking Chaos.

[zealous wing]

"any build advice?" "get good"

[deft stump]

Except leave. I know ppl do.

[zealous wing]

depends on who i suppose

some people would just roll with it

[deft stump]

Pubs will usually leave.

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-gif-1614955667706199731

[deft stump]

I had some do realising my 55 toughness.

[zealous wing]

i've had people leave after i throw a single assail, after i've been fighting things normally and needed to take out something specific. people are WEIRD

one i know for sure, the other 1 or 2 its guessing because it was like a second or 2 after said shard flew by their head

[ripe obsidian]

I do think Warp Flurry Voidstrike is better than Surge. Or at least more consistent. This staff is just so slow to charge. But Surge is funny.

[deft stump]

No clue, but ppl leave cos they don't like is normal.

I know. Had an oggy apply with GG, they swapped to rumbler.

Is all good, they took nuke.

[zealous wing]

a small silver lining

[deft stump]

Boxes grenades are the issue.

[zealous wing]

ye i know

[deft stump]

Is why I wonder if the shotgunners are dropping those.

[zealous wing]

ive got a decent unit and 2 ogryns dropping boxes in mortis almost crashed me

[deft stump]

This event gives my pc a stroke whenever shotgunner wave happens.

[zealous wing]

iirc i was down to like 10 or less fps

[deft stump]

I just freeze frame every explosion.

[zealous wing]

i would barrel them as soon as possible

[deft stump]

What the kark.

[zealous wing]

wish we could block specific maps from QP

i hate ascension riser

[deft stump]

So 3 more Gloriana then block.

[modest perch]

final event doesnt spawn anything half the time

[deft stump]

Turn around.

Most ppl complain but the other side gets ALL THE SPAWNS.

I was once left to deal with everything cos a team of idiots refuse to turn around.

The director just hated me or so.

But is pubs ppl never turn around unless the game notifies them to do it.

And that event tends to flood one end with spawns and a few stragglers on the other side.

Best part, it got so bad I decided to just shock mine and they were still just drooling on the other side.

I don't like wiping near the end.

It's a karking escort a battery.

I do nawt like doing those.

[zealous wing]

i may have made a wonderful error.

i changed jump to left ALT, and now everytime i alt+tab when ingame to check discord i do a lil hop

i only just noticed

[ripe obsidian]

Welcome to the club

[radiant frigate]

helldivers except you hop instead of dive

[zealous wing]

hellhoppers

[deft stump]

Yes, though a tall oggy can try to salvage it if it's close to the edge.

[zealous wing]

theres also the possibility to launch one's self up that high with a burster, no?

[deft stump]

It happened before by accident.

[deft stump]

There's like an invisible wall preventing platforming up there.

[pale prairie]

jump is C for me

[zealous wing]

c is blitz for me

easier to hit than g

[pale prairie]

interesting I have scroll up for blitz

scroll down for melee

[ripe obsidian]

Scroll up is ping for me

[pale prairie]

Alt is crouch so I can slide easier

then space bar is just dodge

[zealous wing]

i have 2 for range, q for melee, c for blitz, scrollwheel as well, so i can use either hand to get what i need depending on if im moving or not, or whatever i feel like doing, also, my mouse's software bugs sometimes and it goes scroll-step-less

[pale prairie]

having the toughest time deciding if I want the Kickback or the Achlys Heavy stubber

[modest perch]

i have attack/block bound to foot pedals

and use a steering wheel for movement

[ripe obsidian]

Can you aim or not? If no, pick Kickback. I use Kickback.

[zealous wing]

why have foot pedals when you can have a 12 sidebutton mouse

with 30 programable buttons

[pale prairie]

I can aim well. My thing is the time to pull it out can be long

relatively longer

[modest perch]

i use a gear shifter for that

horn for grenade

[pale prairie]

you okay?

[deft stump]

You just do it anyway trying to stim or 'nade.

[zealous wing]

... its this a common issue with people? or is this a sik thing

[deft stump]

Common on controller.

[zealous wing]

on controller i can 100% understand

[deft stump]

FS decided dropping crate priority is higher than pulling out stim to use.

And you know, easy to hit it trying to ping or pull out 'nades.

As said, worse on controller.

[zealous wing]

see, i guess thats the issue, because as a psyker, we are our own grenades

[deft stump]

Is why I only like carrying things when on Zealot or just knowing my teammates are selfish idiots.

[pale prairie]

I carry all the grenades as ogryn

the box just in case I run into karien

[zealous wing]

only thing i've learned is, i need to grab the ammo crate if twin campain bossfight on uprising because newbies wont remember to deploy it

otherwise, i grab it if no one else did

[deft stump]

I'm picking up 'nades on my vet then to avoid boxes.

[deft stump]

Healing is more important.

[zealous wing]

yes, healing they deploy fine

ammo they forget, for some reason

[deft stump]

Is newbies.

[zealous wing]

ye

[deft stump]

I assume.

[zealous wing]

usually its newbies

[gray juniper]

On the best controller scheme on console the stim and crate are the same button but the crate always comes out first. If a little lag even you can drop it. The problem is high likelihood of getting hit while waiting in the game to catch up while you’re standing there like a hotdog salesman

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/kone-pro-drag-click-roccat-kain-long-drag-boyten88-gif-23446476

[deft stump]

I just said it.

[radiant frigate]

damn, console players got it rough

[gray juniper]

Yea but I wanted to expand on it for them to feel it lol

[gray juniper]

Sir you can’t do that in public

[deft stump]

Nobody will know unless they try it.

[radiant frigate]

no wonder you exist in a constant state of panic

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/upisnotjump-mouse-clicking-fast-spam-gif-21751122

[deft stump]

No, that's just me. 300 ping, remember?

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-panic-chaos-fire-gif-4920941

[gray juniper]

These folks don’t even know I old gen console on WiFi on cloud

https://tenor.com/view/maniacal-laughter-smiling-friends-crazy-laugh-adult-swim-gif-11596065163344466677

[modest perch]

i have concluded there is no point to even trying this event on psyker

[gray juniper]

Nah it’s doable. I saw a guy do it on gunker even

[pale prairie]

Woof I’ve done three no problems so far

[pale prairie]

Those were mine. Didn’t even use bubble

[modest perch]

i just wanna use my sword

[pale prairie]

Lucky I guess. Crazy too cause I think the explosions are causing graphics crashes

[modest perch]

im just gonna smite my way through this nonsense

[tulip kettle]

psyker is easiest for this event

[gray juniper]

What’s his name?

https://tenor.com/view/larry-david-checking-out-check-inspect-stare-gif-4535593

[tulip kettle]

just run trauma

[pale prairie]

Trick question: it was just a bunch of squares

[gray juniper]

Lmao you got me with that one

[pale prairie]

It’s funny too cause my Ogryn run was a fucking disaster then I switch to SG gunker and smooth sailing

[modest perch]

this may be the first event i dont finish

[deft stump]

Just uprising.

[modest perch]

ugh

[deft stump]

7 bursters>>>>>21 of them.

[ripe obsidian]

The event isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. But I am also standing in the back with Voidstrike

[tulip kettle]

for melee classes it is pain for sure

[radiant frigate]

psyker is a melee class

[modest perch]

now im getting error 4005 spammed

[ripe obsidian]

Go forth and melee, then

[modest perch]

cant even start a new mission

[gray juniper]

Ngl the melee is pretty doable

A lot of folks never learned to dance correctly

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, melee Psyker is perfectly fine.

[radiant frigate]

naturally, i just find it strange that people sometimes think "jedi is a ranged class actually"

[ripe obsidian]

I just like pewpewing

[gray juniper]

Not to down on you bunny

It’s definitely more difficult than usual by far

[ripe obsidian]

I am mostly trying to encourage you to play the game, since you said you hadn't in like 2 months

[gray juniper]

But I strongly think it’s possible to melee even on psyker

[ripe obsidian]

I play Meleeker somewhat often.

[radiant frigate]

i played half a round yesterday

[ripe obsidian]

:O

[deft stump]

Most don't melee vet.

[radiant frigate]

mouse froze in the exact moment the rest of the team decided to spontaneously flop over

[gray juniper]

The lower stamina classes will have the worst time with the event

[radiant frigate]

how arby and ogryn even manage to go down is beyond me

but who am i to judge

[ripe obsidian]

You are Kat to judge.

[radiant frigate]

[deft stump]

Cats just judge anyway.

[ripe obsidian]

Cats and elves both.

[wraith sphinx]

I played a few auric pub matches and it was really fun and intense, playing w bad players is just pure torture though

[gray juniper]

Ngl I went down in a civi today because I panicked and tried to save both when the team was split like goobers

[radiant frigate]

i have been described as both of these things

[ripe obsidian]

There are many worse things to be

[zealous wing]

guys

[ripe obsidian]

I lost one of the ones I did, but it was my fault. Lost track of Warp Unbound right as a burster rounded a corner. Instadeath.

[gray juniper]

Elf picture. Cat name. Very suspicious

[zealous wing]

its a lil longer than what happened that i wanted but

here

clip tax

[zealous wing]

damn it stopped a lil too soon. they died

:D

[ripe obsidian]

I will say that this event is taking my FPS down even lower than usual.

[wraith sphinx]

Yes, same, but not any more than rotten armor did

And while both are hard events, RA was just boring

[ripe obsidian]

And this is a man.

[deft stump]

So me?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

Rotten Armor didn't nuke my FPS like this is. But my FPS has also just been creeping ever downward.

[ripe obsidian]

No. You are the pinnacle of all things.

And the more you're hard on yourself, the more compliments ye shall receive.

[deft stump]

That's lack of optimisations.

[wraith sphinx]

A man is a miserable little pile of secrets, and the rooster bares himself to the world daily without shame. So not a man, sorry.

[deft stump]

So the more Gaslight mains try to gaslight.

[ripe obsidian]

https://archive.nytimes.com/opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/04/04/of-socrates-cynics-and-flat-nailed-featherless-bipeds/

[ripe obsidian]

Is not gaslighting. Is trying to help a friend feel less sad.

[gray juniper]

No. We Stan Karien

[wraith sphinx]

Hah I did not know about the flat nails bit

[deft stump]

Is still gaslighting. All the lies. But then again, you don't run on Asian mentality...

[pale prairie]

Look at this cock of the walk

[ripe obsidian]

I am not Asian, but I do have my own depression and mental health issues beating me down.

[gray juniper]

A popular, common attribution I hear is that Diogenes says “behold, a man”

[wraith sphinx]

Me when I see someone's head explode: "Behold, a psyker"

[ripe obsidian]

A Psyker is a featherless lunatic with psychic bees.

[pale prairie]

Me when I see the skin shop:
“Behold, a recolor.”

[gray juniper]

What should be conveyed is that you are well favored and liked here. People also recognize your capability

A psyker is definitely a featherless lunatic

[ornate hamlet]

No idea

[marble crater]

If we don't favor her, she will flame us. We live in a state of constant fear

[deft stump]

Don't need those when is just the truth hitting you.

[wispy bay]

This event is harder than Auric 30-35.

[deft stump]

I know... except capabilities, that's a nil.

[deft stump]

Then just say your mind if you hate lying.

[strong gulch]

That one knife that wasn't even a recolor. It was just the same skin with a different name.

[gray juniper]

Nah. The 300 ping playing garners a lot of respect

[tulip kettle]

PULL

https://tenor.com/view/auto-shotgun-machinegun-shotgun-gif-25189498

[marble crater]

Hey, it took a lot of work to come up with that new name

[deft stump]

Naw. Pretty sure ppl can do better.

[gray juniper]

Karien you seem like you’re in such a down place right now

[marble crater]

I played on 100 ping or something once and died to two ragers

[gray juniper]

Whatever it is, people here do like you. And you have several good qualities

For one, you’re funny and charming

[marble crater]

For two, you are a great carry

[gray juniper]

Don’t take that comment seriously either. I’ll tell you with certainty he was joking btw

[marble crater]

People wouldn't "gaslight" (whatever that is) you, if they didn't like you. So stop shitting on yourself all the time

[tulip kettle]

said this before

ignore you = dont like you

polite = dont know you

tease = like you

[deft stump]

Things happened. That's all that is. And being unstable.

[marble crater]

Well yeah, I don't talk to people I don't like

[cosmic sigil]

Me playing with my mates in OCE -_-

[marble crater]

Dom is a shitter by the way

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/for-real-antoine-dodson-fr-nodding-its-the-truth-gif-16081601

[deft stump]

Nope. That's the mask.

[ripe obsidian]

That's depression talking.

[gray juniper]

No judgement either. I haven’t disclosed it much but I have severe anxiety on top of ptsd etc

[deft stump]

You should see what some bullies do.

[tulip kettle]

why would you care what shithead bullies think

[deft stump]

Yank the chain, I guess is the term?

[gray juniper]

That’s ok. It’s a good quality to push through it with the cheer, even when it’s a facade. I understand the intention

[deft stump]

Fun? People matter untill they leave you out of conversations and left alone to die.

[gray juniper]

Someone behaved the same and gave you a good outcome yes?

[deft stump]

Oh no, is the mask. Mask is an ideal, right?

[marble crater]

I know what bullies do, Germany has them too. Nobody in psyker chat is bullying you, it's just friendly teasing. You insist you are bad at the game, even though you are not, so we balance it out by saying you are a great carry.
People tease me about playing on console, they aren't bullying me either. Except for @strong gulch who tried to BARREL ME 20 TIMES IN ONE MISSION

[gray juniper]

Try to remember the mask is a human norm

[ripe obsidian]

Masking is common for people with mental health issues, sure. But in this case, it's depression saying that you aren't worthy of being depressed. I go through it as well. I am going through it today.

[deft stump]

In a way, I get it.

[deft stump]

It only lasts so long till it breaks.

[tulip kettle]

" im not crippled and starving in an active warzone, there are people who have it worse than me, what right do i have to be depressed "

heres the thing

your brain is a meat computer that runs on chemicals

it just doesnt work that way

[radiant frigate]

not only are you german, but you also play on console? bully time

[deft stump]

I am not good, you know that. Also was Beans just on Trauma? Trauma is like LP Tinkerer frags...

[ripe obsidian]

"I'm not actually depressed. I'm just faking it for attention/I'm just lazy/I deserve to feel like this."

Etc.

[radiant frigate]

"am i even good enough to have imposter syndrome?" but mental health

[deft stump]

Not worthy of death even in a way? I get it.

[gray juniper]

Believe me i understand. It’s straining and grating on your psyche. The therapist has provided me with a solution and it could work for you too. - set boundaries -stand up for your needs and allow yourself to prioritize them

[ripe obsidian]

Imposter syndrome is similar, yeah.

[marble crater]

People who aren't good don't clear h40 with 300 ping every week, even if they play with Agent and syllo

[marble crater]

Please be gentle

[cosmic sigil]

That's life. That's why meeting new people is always good.

[deft stump]

Is stupid, I know. Thing lives on sugar since well, dings.

[radiant frigate]

i haven't cleared h40 since havoc 1.0

[cosmic sigil]

Me too

[radiant frigate]

i also haven't tried

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-get-you-my-pretty-pretty-little-dog-wicked-gif-5723045

[tulip kettle]

you cant wish or think yourself into mental wellbeing

in the same way you cant wish yourself to unbreak your bones

[strong gulch]

yeet

[deft stump]

Boundaries mean nothing to me. If I legit get mad at someone, it's my fault in the end.

[strong gulch]

dead

[radiant frigate]

this reads a lot like trauma

who hurt you

and do you want me to kill them

[marble crater]

Deserved

[deft stump]

Agent and Syllo can hard carry though... Can just be an aura bot, well, not atm since crashes.

[gray juniper]

That’s a source of your problem. Sorry if I’m assuming too much, but it could be that your close life is affecting how you analyze all interactions with people, even in the chat

[radiant frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SO4jrq2DoCY

[gray juniper]

The key to the shifting blame is that you know it’s not your fault deep down

@deft stump

[marble crater]

Yeah, but they don't win every single mission either, so

[radiant frigate]

realistically speaking anything that ever happens is someone else's fault because i am obviously perfect

[deft stump]

Oh, no worries. People were just hyped over BF6 then. Just felt left out.

[radiant frigate]

6???

too many numbers

slow down

[ripe obsidian]

Yes?

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-count-six-count6-countsix-gif-25834667

[marble crater]

[radiant frigate]

oh hi

[tulip kettle]

AH AH AH

[radiant frigate]

i meant no offense

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/counting-funny-gif-27345410

[radiant frigate]

if anything i'm just glad it's not 7

[marble crater]

Don't...

[ripe obsidian]

As should we all be.

[marble crater]

Don't do it

[deft stump]

It might be. Because it is how it is. Is really why I don't play with some people even when I do have the time to play... it leads to arguments over griefing feels.

[deft stump]

But maybe it is my fault. Maybe I should just take it.

[gray juniper]

No I don’t agree. I’ll explain

[ripe obsidian]

This is depression talking. Like, clinical, diagnosable depression.

[deft stump]

Well, that's the nature of H40.

[radiant frigate]

psyker chat knows a thing or two about depression

[gray juniper]

@deft stump you have to validate your feelings and also allow yourself to dialog with other people on that if there’s a conflict

[radiant frigate]

speaking from experience of course because why else would we play psyker

[gray juniper]

If you feel offended or slighted, it’s acceptable to bring it up

[tulip kettle]

stop

stop kat

you arent allowed to speak the truth in here

[deft stump]

Battlefield 6 beta?

[tulip kettle]

every psyker main is mentally stable

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not.

[marble crater]

I play psyker because funny magic man

[tulip kettle]

why else would we play the obviously mentally unstable class

so unrelatable to our lives

[deft stump]

To some, just unstable hormones.

[radiant frigate]

i wasn't saying otherwise, but psykers can look into other people's mind and see depression

therefore, experience

[ripe obsidian]

That is, in fact, the cause of depression.

Bad brain juices.

[tulip kettle]

i, personally, never hear voices when unmedicated

[strong gulch]

Like men playing women? Totally just like that.

[marble crater]

I downloaded BF6 beta twice, didn't play a single match, because I was like place 500k in the queue

[tulip kettle]

the fact all my characters are women

[deft stump]

Nope. The other just explodes and back to why I stopped playing with them in the first place.

[tulip kettle]

should not be examined at all.

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[deft stump]

I'm not a psyker main?

[radiant frigate]

become one

[white valley]

Contested nowadays actually

[tulip kettle]

sorry karien im doing this thing where i say one thing and mean the opposite

[ripe obsidian]

You are an honorary psyker main

[radiant frigate]

achieve mental stability through the warp

[marble crater]

With the warp

[radiant frigate]

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, if bad brain chemicals weren't the cause, I don't know how medicine would treat it.

[gray juniper]

When you’re feeling blamed or singled out or chastised, you can try this: do control breathing, analyze the situation for what has actually happened. If it’s sensible, ask questions to get clarification. No matter the prior steps, stand up for yourself by explaining you don’t accept such behaviors or words toward you. Accept that things may end unresolved or people may not like you in that circumstance and importantly recognize that it’s ok

[deft stump]

I hear just myself unmedicated.

[ripe obsidian]

But I know little of medical science

[tulip kettle]

i dont 🙂

[strong gulch]

Variable causes of depression. Can be chemicals in brain. Can be your needs are NOT being met.

[white valley]

Current research points to depression being caused by changes in brain activity rather than specifically brain chemistry

[gray juniper]

Then it’s sounds like you made the best decision honestly. Unless there’s a need for confrontation to explain the desire to not play with them, it’s pretty much resolved. Yes?

[ripe obsidian]

I would imagine assorted chemicals are involved in that process of atypical activity, but I know not

[deft stump]

You mean, Chaos... Just obsess over one thing to perfection so you think less of other things?

[radiant frigate]

can also be a cycle of "i should do thing" and then not doing thing and beating yourself up for not having done thing

[tulip kettle]

what about voices that come from outside my head, do those count as my thoughts too? If so some of my thoughts are pretty fucked up and not like my other thoughts at all

[radiant frigate]

of course you jump straight to slaanesh

[radiant frigate]

we call these "intrusive thoughts"

[tulip kettle]

no we call those diagnosed schizoaffective disorder

[deft stump]

It's just stupid game things I take too hard, might just be it just amplifying what was there though.

[radiant frigate]

i yield to your experience, domschizo

[white valley]

No no you're just the Seer

[strong gulch]

We are not our only our thoughts.

[radiant frigate]

voices from outside your head can also be other people

[deft stump]

Maybe, but materialistic wants will never be met anyway.

[radiant frigate]

depending on whether or not others can hear them

[deft stump]

Nope, because that person is still mad about it.

[tulip kettle]

ultimately, we are all just human beings. Fallible, flawed human beings, all trying to make it through each day

[radiant frigate]

is that really your concern though

[white valley]

They can stay mad, that's their problem

[tulip kettle]

getting mad over a videogame instead of enjoying playing with your friends regardless of the outcome is not the way to be.

and if others want to be that way, you just have to let them get on with it

[deft stump]

It needs not be the way you think.

[radiant frigate]

all excess and pursuit of perfection is the domain of the dark prince

[strong gulch]

electrified meat

I guess we shouldn't expect too much.

[radiant frigate]

that explains why i sometimes shock people on touch

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/witch-montypython-holygrail-shesawitch-gif-18421113243521844256

[strong gulch]

Except me. I'm the wosrt battery.

[deft stump]

Very much so. Ask @west spire or @honest bloom for more info. I will probs say too much atm.

[ripe obsidian]

Meeting you is just an electrifying experience.

[radiant frigate]

@west spire or @honest bloom more info please

[radiant frigate]

results may be shocking

[deft stump]

Yes, but what I mean is, it does not need to mean that things... could just be anything.

[gray juniper]

But see that’s a bad habit. You don’t want to practice minimizing your feelings. Yes, the situation might be small and usually something you want to overlook, but you want to practice standing up for yourself in all occasions until you have a lot of confidence doing it when it’s really important. Yes you might go overboard starting out. But it’s ok and it’s worth it

[radiant frigate]

and if all else fails? bathe the world in cleansing flame

i mean what

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-pyro-teamfortress2-teamfortress2pyro-fire-gif-13656490

[honest bloom]

the hell did I get pinged in here for

[tulip kettle]

I AMMM REEEAAADDDDYYYY

[radiant frigate]

hello are you the right alexander or did i summon someone else entirely

[deft stump]

Is also probs pretty stupid once you understand.

[honest bloom]

this depends my dear psyker resident I am not sure of the context here

[deft stump]

Tell them what happened.

[radiant frigate]

nor am i, i was hoping you could shed some light

[tulip kettle]

karien said you may be able to give context for whats going on

[gray juniper]

Hope you find a way to be content with it. This is life telling you the correct result has happened

[honest bloom]

what happened with what?

[tulip kettle]

something resulting in a falling out amongst friends

[deft stump]

Last night.

[honest bloom]

oh

[radiant frigate]

oh so it's recent

[honest bloom]

erh

am I really allowed to speak on personal matters?

[deft stump]

Is not correct, is also not wrong.

[deft stump]

You know less, if it were me, I would say far too much.

[tulip kettle]

she pinged you and asked you to, so if it relates to karien, and other people who arent here are not named directly, i dont see why you cant speak on it

[strong gulch]

There are exceptions tho. It's not always safe to stand up for yourself. Also if a space is your a place specifically to have fun, sometimes you gotta let shit go. I can't afford to confront people every time they say or do something ableist.

However, you very much have a point that standing up for yourself is a practiced skill.

[honest bloom]

well, I can only say what I saw and perceived, so forgive me if I misinterpret

[radiant frigate]

could "standing up for yourself" also be considered ableist?

asking for a friend

[white valley]

Sometimes though, you should minimize your feelings because they're stupid and irrational

[deft stump]

And yes, I got more in DMs. I just think those are more, private. Other than the part about the other blaming me for asking them to play instead of the fact they asked me in the first place after they blew up the last time for their own screw ups.

[gray juniper]

No no it’s ok. This shame and everything I swear I’ve been through it myself. Big or small, how you emotionally react to something is your head telling you something important. You should side with your emotions over the argument coming from the outside. You have people pleaser tendencies in some aspect. I’m not saying this means that you are a people pleaser, but have some quality of it. I can recognize it from myself after the doctor pointed it out. There’s an underlying reason that feeds it to come out. Identify the source

[honest bloom]

as far as I can tell, what happened last night is that me, Kari, her partner syrene and kesh got on tide
we had 2 games in total, the first 1 was actually pretty fun
the second one was rolling steel
syrene was talking about wanting to do the new event because it's fun or something
Kari didn't like that because she thinks no one is capable of pushing enemies in the team
Syrene later "proved" this by accidentally shooting a poxburster Kari was approaching, and it cascaded into Kari getting frustrated, and syrene left
it was awkward silence after that
we failed the mission right at the end

I left soon after that because I don't see myself as a close enough of a friend to comfort Kari or syrene

[tulip kettle]

thanks for the context alexander

[radiant frigate]

😭

it's always poxbursters

[white valley]

[radiant frigate]

root of all evil

[honest bloom]

keep this in mind please

[tulip kettle]

so in this case, maybe what we should analyse the root of the situation

and not discuss any individuals at all

the first question to be asked of ourselves is, why do we play this game?

is it to win? or to have fun?

[deft stump]

Oh, and for more context... the last time it happened was me being blamed for saying no to heresy on gloriana while underleveled.

[honest bloom]

I was not here for that

[gray juniper]

Yes I’m losing nuance here. The cat is running around my feet and I can’t even keep attention going with this minor distraction. @deft stump potatoe brings up a valid point. So if you feel justified, it wouldn’t hurt to let it be known. I think you have good judgement to decide if the timing or situation is correct. Just be confident in yourself

[strong gulch]

TBF, bursters, dogs, and trappers have been fecking weird. Just ignoring pushes and staggers.

[deft stump]

Like, she proceeded to eat overheads and basically had me solo without any real gear.

[tulip kettle]

okay karien, so what im gonna ask you here is

what is important to you?

[deft stump]

Thus, extra context to why this is bad enough to have her explode.

[tulip kettle]

winning the game, or having fun playing with your friends and people close to you?

[deft stump]

What do you expect from me? Solo?

[honest bloom]

I'm just saying you could be a little nicer to her. she doesn't seem to be nearly as experienced as you and there is some serious trauma I picked up. you two need to be there for eachother, not throw pebbles over petty talk.

[tulip kettle]

and, if your group are asking you to do something that you dont find fun, explain that you want to have fun

so you dont want to be in that situation

[deft stump]

You don't know how much she played, on top of VT2 experience.

Basic is, always push exploders.

[hearty wolf]

You're girls. Kiss and make up

[tulip kettle]

who cares karien? i die to poxwalkers and sin gets mad with me about it all the time

[honest bloom]

hours do not translate into skill. she is inexperienced, and that's not up for debate.

[hearty wolf]

Nothing is worth getting mad at if it doesn't make you mad the next day

[tulip kettle]

is it worth being stressted and having an argument over whether someone did a misplay?

[hearty wolf]

Life is a multiplayer game where every time you wake up, it's someone different 🤔

[ripe obsidian]

To add to this, it is important to voice when you feel frustrated and try to step away before that frustration goes too far.

[honest bloom]

you're friends with dinova

[deft stump]

That't the thing about unmedicated unstable people... it can be weeks before.

[tulip kettle]

indeed! we were playing together an hour ago, the game got frustrating, and we decided to call it a day

[hearty wolf]

Me and her used to play Helldivers way back and absolutely fuck around. It was really funny. Haven't spoke to her in a long time.

Oh.

[honest bloom]

I remember you, we played together with her. good to see you around

[deft stump]

Why I said, underlying issues from before and other things.

[tulip kettle]

and then thats the truth isnt it?

its not about pushing poxbursters

[white valley]

Just play ogryn when the game gets frustrating

[hearty wolf]

Actually I know you lmao. I'm pretty sure I've seen clips and heard your voice.

[tulip kettle]

its about whatever else is going on

so you need to adress what is actually going on

[honest bloom]

that's plausible considering the silly shit I did with them on helldivers

[strong gulch]

My VT2 skills did not translate to DT. ngl

I will say, when I get frustrated at games, it's usually because bugs / something not functioning correctly or because I am going through something outside of the game. Imposter syndrome aside. I can only speak for myself on that, but I know others relate.

[tulip kettle]

you know how, an old married couple, one day one of them gets really mad because the other didnt put their dish in the dishwasher?

they arent mad about the dish are they

[summer prairie]

It's okay sometimes to not push poxbursters #psyker-class message

[tulip kettle]

and arguing over the dish just makes things worse and doesnt address the problem

[deft stump]

It's like, you guys already ignored the front, now when I go deal with things with the remaining hp I have, you just have to shoot it and drop me below 30 hp.

Great.

[tulip kettle]

and so?

you die and fail the mission

the sky didnt fall down

[deft stump]

It's just like playing pubs where it's FFA.

[gray juniper]

This reflection done often would save a lot of game communities and friendships tbh

[honest bloom]

in the rolling steel context you were an arbitrator and you were also on 2 wounds

we would've picked you up asap. like I usually do.

[tulip kettle]

IT DOESNT MATTER

IT LITERALLY DOESNT MATTER

its not about that at all

[hearty wolf]

Karien needs PG tips

[deft stump]

You know going down on two wounds is extremely risky.

[honest bloom]

there's a severe mistrust issue with her. she needs to understand not everyone is gonna let her fall.

[deft stump]

I see nothing but a cloudy screen.

[tulip kettle]

there is clearly underlying frustration that needs to be adressed

and a disconnect with why we are playing the game

so again i ask

are we playing to go pro and be paid to play this game as our full time job?

or to have fun with our friends?

[gray juniper]

Easy ways game related to explain this to people is like “that’s too stressful right now and I’m trying to relax more” etc

[deft stump]

And this is why I don't like rolling steel.

[honest bloom]

((this is why I preach 3 wounds by the way))

[tulip kettle]

hey, i want to spend time doing a shared activity with you, but i feel a lot of pressure to perform in this game. So can we just go and play animal crossing together instead?

[white valley]

If darktide is frustrating for you, perhaps a chiller coop game could be played?

[deft stump]

(3 wounds is bad. You know that.)

[honest bloom]

(yes, but I don't trust my teammates. 2 wounds is too risky.)

[white valley]

Stop spreading wound curio propaganda

[radiant frigate]

the only acceptable use of wound curios is martyr zelato

[deft stump]

More money is involved then. And no, VT2 is worse with Friendly fire.

[hearty wolf]

I'd also say, there's a danger to not minimising your feelings.

You should basically be spectating yourself and watching how you feel but don't chase the emotion.

The reason being is that if you have a tendency to bring an issue to your partner without processing (and sometimes minimising how strong that feeling is) you're going to emotionally dump on them. People aren't emotional sponges.

Just a wording thing really but sometimes something to keep in mind.

[white valley]

I was not gonna suggest VT2 hell naw

[hearty wolf]

Now that I think about it. I'm actually quite a good authority on relationships. I find that hilarious.

[honest bloom]

until people stop being blind being silly I will never stop spreading propaganda

[radiant frigate]

ONE-EYE
WOULD YOU KINDLY REFRAIN FROM SHOOTING ME

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/dunning-kruger-gif-20216377

[hearty wolf]

Bruh I've almost been with my partner 5 years wtf

[white valley]

Deep rock galactic can be very chill

[deft stump]

(Still, more wounds doen't meant it's worth it.)

[radiant frigate]

excellent form, carry on

[deft stump]

Wrong. Oh so wrong.

[white valley]

Oh dear

[strong gulch]

what is time

[white valley]

Just play haz 2 lel

[deft stump]

Guess why we stopped playing it?

[honest bloom]

(there's many disablers/corruption in this game that stop being a stressful issue when you have a 3 wound. for example, that poxburster wouldn't have perma'd you.)

[tulip kettle]

karien, i think honestly this is a bit too much for psyker chat to deal with

all i will say is

[white valley]

Okay play Return to Moria, that is giga chill

[tulip kettle]

you recognise, that due to your cultural upbringing, you maybe have an unhealthy relationship with winning and being the best

[ripe obsidian]

+3 wounds, crystalline will

[hearty wolf]

For real. Past five years I've graduated university, had two different jobs. Got qualified legally and put 400h into darktide 🤔

[radiant frigate]

(use health curio and/or corruption resist instead)

[white valley]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-reaction-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-gif-613275461876515673

[tulip kettle]

i have seen you aknowledge this before

[honest bloom]

(what if I kill you)

[deft stump]

(Still, is bad. Just need to accept the fact.)

[radiant frigate]

i would prefer if you didn't

[strong gulch]

Talk about so many goals. IRL penances getting checked off.

[gray juniper]

Happy simplistic games are a lifesaver btw

[radiant frigate]

why are all my penances hidden

[white valley]

I've heard Peak is pretty fun

[radiant frigate]

how do i even know what to go for

[ripe obsidian]

Wounds are a self-nerf. Weakens healing stim, weakens anti-corruption aura, lowers HP that would prevent you from dying.

[hearty wolf]

Maybe this is why I feel compelled to penance farm, I need more goals to complete but I'm slowing down

[honest bloom]

(more trust on teammates harbors paranoia. paranoia creates frustration, lashing out. then everyone is upset. best to look after yourself, keep yourself safe, and not have to depends on goober 506 to help you in a match.)

[hearty wolf]

I've got shit penances left like retiring 😭

[deft stump]

That's $50.

[ripe obsidian]

I did all the penances I know how to do. Now I feel directionless.

[tulip kettle]

can you reset penances?

[radiant frigate]

but you can become rank 1 floor tank

[deft stump]

About $35 on sale.

[tulip kettle]

my life penances keep getting wiped

[white valley]

What, how

[ripe obsidian]

I just want to be Martyrdom Psyker

[strong gulch]

I think my partner and I will have been together 16 years in a few months.

[tulip kettle]

i know couples who have been together 30 years and hate each other

just sayng

[deft stump]

I am not the best, we all know that. But people making it harder doesn't help.

[hearty wolf]

I think that's why a lot of people have kids.

I might have made this up but I think we mentioned in passing that you weren't planning on it?

[tulip kettle]

but what im saying karien

is WHO CARES

[deft stump]

Not my thing.

[tulip kettle]

WHO CARES if you win the mission

[radiant frigate]

IRL alt accoutns

[tulip kettle]

play to have fun with your group

not to win

and you will have a better time

[ripe obsidian]

This is gonna sound like a platitude, but the best "trick" I know to making relationships work is viewing everything as you and your partner versus the problem, never you versus your partner.

[strong gulch]

We fully indented to divorce in like 2 years after being legally bound to one another.

Because who cares.

[tulip kettle]

run 3 wound curios and a taxe with +unarmoured and + infested

[deft stump]

(So just play pubs where every rando is a gamble and I expect all of them to suck.)

[tulip kettle]

BASED

[deft stump]

Regional prices.

[strong gulch]

Run DB shotgun on psyker. 😭

[white valley]

It's 13 dollars right now

[hearty wolf]

That's why my dad gets so mad that I never put any effort in. I'm like a bot that jacked his account and I'm stealing his gold

[honest bloom]

(you can do that with friends too. having a personal connection with the people you talk to is more important.)

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, no childerthings, for multiple reasons.

[honest bloom]

(it shouldn't matter if they're bad at the game. they're frend.)

[tulip kettle]

i am HOT GARBAGE at this game

people still play with me

i like to think its because its not a terrible time

[honest bloom]

I'm the second coming of Messiah

[deft stump]

It's not even to win... is more, people making it harder for you to enjoy it. I already take more damage from teammates in most runs.

[white valley]

Same

[radiant frigate]

this is excellent advice

[strong gulch]

I have fun making you pick me up off the ground.

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[ripe obsidian]

I'm a frog in a suit. The logistics of me playing video games are arcane and mysterious.

[radiant frigate]

hot garbage club rise up

[deft stump]

$35. My OCD will kill me with games.

[hearty wolf]

We do this a lot too.

We have very small rule book too and that's part of the rules that we've both agreed on and signed (because I don't want a situation where it's like "Oh you're just trying to make it us versus the problem when it's you" kind of thing. This way, our conflict resolution has a Constitution of sorts)

We also have a monthly debrief just to make sure nothing builds up

[white valley]

You looking at the bundle with all the dlc?

[tulip kettle]

ah yes, the heart of any true romance, spreadsheets

quarterly reviews

performance improvement plans

[deft stump]

(Is the mindset. She keeps going off about being better in shooters and all that but garh. Some things you won't know the underlying things about.

[hearty wolf]

We tried weekly debrief but I found the danger with that is it's too many emotions in a short amount of time.

If we wanted to solve it, it would be as fast as possible. But if we don't, giving it an entire month gives us a tiny bit of breathing room..

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh yeah, spreadsheets and regular meetings are pretty good things in relationships

[gray juniper]

Judging by the story Alexander provided it does sound like there’s some more mending and support to be done outside the game that could bolster the relationship, which would improve everyones temperaments when playing the game

[hearty wolf]

We have so many. The latest one she's created is "The Great Fat Race"

[tulip kettle]

honestly

i love that for you

im a firm believer in "if it works, it works"

[deft stump]

Yep. Is why I don't have VRising. The bundle is too ex.

[hearty wolf]

Voidstrike

[tulip kettle]

yeah turns out that doesnt work

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike won 5/6 event missions for me today.

[white valley]

My sister in the emperor, the dlc is cosmetic, no content

[tulip kettle]

it works AMAZINGLY

if all the enemies stand in a line for you then stop moving

[deft stump]

Oh, it's a hot mess. Is why we stopped in the first place but I guess she forgot.

[tulip kettle]

but if, like me, you prefer to click "roughly where the enemy is" instead of on heads

[tulip kettle]

is not so good

[deft stump]

I like dressing up my chars.

[radiant frigate]

are you racing to lose weight

[deft stump]

Is just DT is too expensive.

[radiant frigate]

if so i respect it

[ripe obsidian]

No aim, only unleash bowling balls. Hence Surge. 2x the chance to hit something

[deft stump]

So it hurts but I just have to deal with it.

[tulip kettle]

youll forgive me if i disregard the opinion of someone who struggles to turn around

[marble crater]

Is Sin a... racist?

[tulip kettle]

his office says yes

i also saw him saying something about immigrants the other day

[radiant frigate]

aren't we all?

[marble crater]

Not me, I'm German. We would never

[ripe obsidian]

I have died more times to Maulers and Crushers sneaking up behind me than anything else. Turning around is scary. There might be enemies there.

[radiant frigate]

schrödinger's "behind you"

until you check, it is both certain death and absolutely nothing

[ripe obsidian]

And the US is the great melting pot of the world. Couldn't possibly be racial issues here.

[marble crater]

Exactly

[radiant frigate]

i will refrain from commenting further because i do not wish to be banished from this realm too

[hearty wolf]

I've begun walking past armour yesterday on the assumption you'll kill it so I can get to a good place to give us space. They was working great yesterday until the trapper incident.

[ripe obsidian]

That trapper was a true champion of chaos

[hearty wolf]

I'm ready to get my revenge

[ripe obsidian]

It is 4:30am here.

[hearty wolf]

Is eep time?

[ripe obsidian]

Should be. But depression brain is against sleep

Ah well.

[hearty wolf]

Damnits

[ripe obsidian]

Working on getting my medicine re-evaluated

[gray juniper]

It’s ok fren. Nothing goes without road bump for any of us

[radiant frigate]

are there daemons in the shadows?

[ripe obsidian]

In other news: Silksong is September 4th

[ripe obsidian]

In a sense, yes.

[white valley]

Silksong is not real

It's a hallucination

[ripe obsidian]

The daemons are intrusive thoughts, painful memories, and self-loathing thought spirals.

[hearty wolf]

Omg yes, 2 weeks time

[deft stump]

And she is blaming me for it all when she is the one forgetting that.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/one-pice-gif-26834018

Silksong is real

[honest bloom]

by the way you have to un-summon me

this is maybe my 3rd time in psyker chat, I don't talk here

[hearty wolf]

I still need to do the speedrun achievements and steel soul 🤔

[hearty wolf]

You're here permanently now

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/begone-demon-exorcism-garlic-begone-demons-gif-15627834

[ripe obsidian]

Soulstealer.

[radiant frigate]

your obligation is fulfilled, return to your realm

[honest bloom]

thank you :3

[radiant frigate]

godspeed

[honest bloom]

goodbye psyker folks

[marble crater]

Bye

[tulip kettle]

ill make a deal with you @ripe obsidian

if you go to bed i will also go to bed

[west spire]

I was pinged.

[tulip kettle]

is okay larks it seems to be resolved

sorry to distrub you

[ripe obsidian]

I have been in bed for like an hour

[tulip kettle]

get off ya damn phone

[radiant frigate]

why is that so relatable

[tulip kettle]

i WAS in bed

then i was thinking about you wrecking face with voidstrike

[radiant frigate]

when you lay down in bed is the exact time all the thoughts come in

[strong gulch]

Perhaps I too should go to bed and be on my phone for a long time.

[tulip kettle]

and i ended up in front of the pc playing DT again

[radiant frigate]

dangerous to stay awake

[tulip kettle]

and suddenly its gone 10am the next day

[west spire]

No problems. I have Kari in my dms and read everything here too.

[deft stump]

You mean alive in the waking world.

[tulip kettle]

we sleep tomorrow!

[radiant frigate]

life is dangerous

no one's survived it yet

[hearty wolf]

Friends all go to bed when I'm finally at full power >:(

[strong gulch]

rip

[tulip kettle]

save yourself for this afternoon lil bro

you can carry me then

[deft stump]

True. Just waiting.

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is fun. Just needs some tweaking

[gray juniper]

Based on what I saw printed here and the result, I think she was hurt more than she wanted to show. Reaching out for getting her to share the feelings may end up more productive than it seems right now

[tulip kettle]

TF did you just call me, leaf lover?

[ripe obsidian]

This is why I try to exhaust myself before lying down. If I am unable to keep my eyes open, I will fall asleep sooner and escape the thought spiral

[tulip kettle]

great plan in theory

[zealous wing]

hah samesies

except its now 11 and my PC is dying so thats fun i guess

[tulip kettle]

hmmmmm

maybe using it for like, 4 days solid

[zealous wing]

connection issues

[tulip kettle]

isnt the best thing for it

[zealous wing]

see

youd have a point

[deft stump]

Nope. She just left everything.

[zealous wing]

if i hadnt been doing similar hours on vintage story every day

[strong gulch]

mayfly

[zealous wing]

for over a year

[white valley]

Leaf lover detected

[tulip kettle]

what tweaks are you thinking

[ripe obsidian]

The wood elves in Elder Scrolls are carnivores. They can't eat plants or the forest will eat them.

[zealous wing]

turns out disc was pretty full so ive cleared some space, should help. no more clips from me for now, this started when i turned it on

[ripe obsidian]

To the staff itself, mostly a less shit charge time.

[tulip kettle]

so, flurry?

[gray juniper]

Separation is sometimes a normal stage for processing too

[ripe obsidian]

I do think Flurry is better than Surge, yes

But I meant base charge. Like buffing the weapon

[tulip kettle]

i tend to agree if not doing funny haha lmb build

[gray juniper]

Don’t let it get you down

[tulip kettle]

oh that too

[ripe obsidian]

I think Flurry + Shriek is better than Surge + SG.

[tulip kettle]

when i tried it earlier

i literally said

[wind wind]

How is it going my fellow emperors lightbulbs. I just woke up

[strong gulch]

The slow charge time feels so bad on VS

[tulip kettle]

this is just the funny EK infinite SG uptime build bu worse

because it takes forever and i have to aim

[marble crater]

Do you know why? When you are standing gravity makes all the thoughts fall down into your legs, when you are in bed they spill back into your head

[plucky flax]

Anyone couple games or something before lunch?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I'm probably going back to Shriek on Voidstrike. Not sure if I will keep Surge or go to Flurry

[summer prairie]

I'll play something

[plucky flax]

Can do some havoc memes

[white valley]

Okay real talk about depression, taking care of your physical health, chiefly via sleep hygiene and exercise, can have very positive impacts on depressive symptoms

[tulip kettle]

i would love to join you guys but im too tired to play well and will just drag you down

[deft stump]

Maybe... but I should not care too much...

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf Agent and Syllo are up for games. Fight them for damage.

[gray juniper]

Wdym?

[ripe obsidian]

How dare you tell me to be responsible. >:( And on a weekend, too.

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

Caring means thinking too much, that leads to a further spiral.

[gray juniper]

Got it

[white valley]

Indeed, I'm annoying like that

[hearty wolf]

Mm. W

Okay

I'll get out of bed for that.

[gray juniper]

Ironically yes you have the right idea. Tranquility is key

[marble crater]

But how is that different from all the time?

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-so-mean-to-me-crying-baby-gif-13809730

[gray juniper]

My goat is… a bully

[white valley]

https://tenor.com/view/bully-maguire-cry-gonna-cry-spider-man-spiderman-meme-gif-144908065341776122

[strong gulch]

I'm tired and thinking about waxy things. Like what if I get molds for table top dice, but instead of resin I make big wax beads. Just melt a D20.

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-upset-sad-feelings-emotions-gif-4046503

[deft stump]

But is hard... everything makes it harder.

[tulip kettle]

do we think triple espresso is a suitable substitute for sleep and/or skill?

[white valley]

no