#psyker-class

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verbal thistle
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and not many melee weapons have stagger

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even on staff builds taxe/FS/FGS/Knife/DS perform amazing

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*non SG DD builds

wraith sphinx
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knife in particular is busted on psyker because the really short stamina regen delay makes push attacking spam so safe

verbal thistle
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mk6 PA spam is one of the highest dps

wraith sphinx
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death by a thousand toothpick pokes

verbal thistle
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only like obscurus DS and FGS can compare iirc

hearty wolf
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Alright I go into the havoc pub shadowlands

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we will see how much I struggle

wraith sphinx
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another day at the unfun factory

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auric pub quality seems to be steadily improving, esp once rotten armor ended

hearty wolf
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6 bosses in the intro

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Twins died but we lost on the nurgle+ 2cs+ PO

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Was really close

ripe obsidian
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Yes. I must atone for my (brief) sins

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Very accurate

vast spoke
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Finally got all Arbites Penances. Onto Psyker now. Instead of the Lex it is now my Beloved.

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Any good builds utilizing Assail anyone would recommend?

marble crater
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Gunker loregryn

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Something like this

vast spoke
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Much appreciated!

ripe obsidian
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I had a guy last night who killed like 4 bosses with a single door. Just opened and closed it like a murderous bellboy

hearty wolf
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Skillless behaviour 😭

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Doesn't pad the scoreboard so it's fake

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(I was desperately looking for a door and there wasn't one)

ripe obsidian
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Doors with monsters

mighty agate
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The "doors"

median furnace
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Still need help with it btw?

river whale
topaz mesa
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Can someone help me with a low havoc? Just for the weekly

median furnace
pale prairie
median furnace
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friend code is in my name

topaz mesa
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1 sec

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Inviting

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I'm assuming that steam?

pale prairie
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Go into the game and go to the social tab from pause menu. In there you should be able to see an option for “ FIND PLAYER” input code and either send invite or join game

topaz mesa
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Ok

pale prairie
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I assumed the same thing until I realized my Steam friend code was several digits shorter than the Darktide codes haha

topaz mesa
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Ohhhh

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I've never used that before. I didn't even know

pale prairie
topaz mesa
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I sent a friend request

brave drift
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so I tried a primary fire EK Staff build and wow it is really strong lol.

pale prairie
near gale
prime elk
pale prairie
hearty wolf
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Game

pale prairie
near gale
prime elk
pale prairie
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At least that’s what he claimed

prime elk
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lol that's kinda sad tbh

pale prairie
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Yea I felt like he should just play knife zealot at that point

near gale
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sigh it took me way too long to find this, but, I found it

near gale
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infinite cleave wave go

pale prairie
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Love the infinite cleave wave

gray juniper
near gale
pale prairie
near gale
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I knew the gif was shortly after that in zealot chat

gray juniper
near gale
pale prairie
near gale
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can that hit their heads as well on the max height oggy? I wouldn't doubt it

gray juniper
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That gun still shows lack of ability to me

near gale
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Cause you can hit their heads over the shield on a max height oggy with your blitz

pale prairie
brave drift
gray juniper
near gale
brave drift
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Ooooh

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The havoc modifiers?

gray juniper
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Yes

pale prairie
pale prairie
near gale
near gale
pale prairie
pale prairie
near gale
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I never tried it with the heavies on the dueling sword... it is probably easier

near gale
pale prairie
pale prairie
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400 3 stamina curios

near gale
gray juniper
near gale
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it is harder to do tho, when the bulwark is hostile lol

pale prairie
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I don’t like that

gray juniper
pale prairie
gray juniper
pale prairie
near gale
pale prairie
near gale
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The mk6 power sword's push attack requires 0 aim... just stand against the shield and push attack

pale prairie
gray juniper
near gale
pale prairie
near gale
gray juniper
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I tried to stand against the wave. “Lol little bro just go TALK to girls”. Didn’t succeed lmao

pale prairie
pale prairie
gray juniper
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Those guys are aids

near gale
pale prairie
pale prairie
near gale
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Granted i haven't tried it against an active bulwark on the mk6 power sword

pale prairie
near gale
pale prairie
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Not glitching through

near gale
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nope, neither way does it without some stagger already having been applied to the bulwark

pale prairie
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How niche

near gale
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Why do you think no one does it? lol

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being bored in the meat grinder makes you do shit

near gale
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This was when I got better at it vs an inactive one >.>

gray juniper
gray juniper
near gale
pale prairie
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Weird interaction

near gale
gray juniper
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So the game it’s trying to create the interaction of you hitting through the shield slot? Lmao

near gale
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idk, it's really stupid, sometimes it seems to work through the view holes... sometimes it goes right through the middle of the shield

gray juniper
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Crazy

near gale
marble crater
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I thought ADHD means you are immune to getting bored loregryn

dull scroll
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that thing is so cursed đŸ˜©

near gale
marble crater
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Damn, worst superpower ever

near gale
dull scroll
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@near gale what I'm curious is, as a zealot main, what's your opinion on the relic mks, 8 vs 10 which is better?

near gale
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Also the mk2 is for if you like uppercuts

dull scroll
near gale
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since the mk10 light spams a lot for horde clear

pale prairie
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Huh sounds like mk 6 and mk8 FGS

near gale
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using heavies for horde clear pretty much requires twbs so you don't get hitstunned out of the attack

dull scroll
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even after you put up with mk2's combos they still perform "roughly similar" then mk10's the better option then

near gale
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I think both marks are actually equal in power, it's just down to player preference

pale prairie
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You’re saying we actually get a choice?!?

near gale
pale prairie
near gale
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You are locked in, no choice allowed

pale prairie
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I only can ready one word

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META

near gale
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Metabolizing eggs, turkey, always

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meta

pale prairie
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MUTTON, EGG SALAD, TOMATO, AIOLI

near gale
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but wait... that'd be mesta

pale prairie
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Egg salad is clearly one word

near gale
pale prairie
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Either word alone cannot stand

near gale
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When your eggs talk back to you:

marble crater
pale prairie
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Clearly the greatest western culture

marble crater
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Imagine not having compound words

pale prairie
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Too scared

marble crater
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Fireplace, yes very cool

pale prairie
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Windmill

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Waterwheel

marble crater
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Need one for earth now

pale prairie
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Volkswagen

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Oh wait

marble crater
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Oh no

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B M double you

zealous wing
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who is B M and why do they want to double me?

pale prairie
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Isn’t it double v?

marble crater
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It's the Bayrische Motoren Werke

pale prairie
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TIL

radiant frigate
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bee emm dubya

marble crater
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Worst wrongly pronounced one is Porsche though

pale prairie
pale prairie
marble crater
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There is an e which English speakers refuse to pronounce

zealous wing
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too many words already ended with a silent e, is my guess

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bad habits shake

pale prairie
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Oh right the uptilt at the end

pale prairie
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So E at the end gets silenced

marble crater
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Truly a fate worse than death

zealous wing
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being forgotten 😭

tulip kettle
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the great "porsh" vs "porsha" debate

hearty wolf
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Friend spotted

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Game?

tulip kettle
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hell yeah brother i just woke up from a

pale prairie
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wow he is alert

tulip kettle
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err

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nap

hearty wolf
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I haven't slept

tulip kettle
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6 hours nap

pale prairie
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just say sleep

marble crater
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There is no debate KEKW_ogryn

hearty wolf
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And I'm getting this eye pain

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But

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I will make tea

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3m brb

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Oh wait

tulip kettle
marble crater
hearty wolf
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My eye pain is gone

pale prairie
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its 1 PM here

hearty wolf
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It appears sitting in a dark room with my phone on high brightness is good

near gale
pale prairie
hearty wolf
marble crater
strong gulch
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coffee 4am before bed

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is fine

hearty wolf
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Omg

pale prairie
hearty wolf
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It's another friend!!

zealous wing
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bedtime monster energy is a mood though

near gale
pale prairie
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Sin has turned into a pokemon trainer just gotta catch all the friends

strong gulch
pale prairie
cyan lily
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Hello can anyone help me with some builds my friend is struggling to go past malice difficulty he gos down 8times a mission is there a tank build or something that I can tell him to not suck 😅

pale prairie
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what class?

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and what level?

gray juniper
strong gulch
marble crater
marble crater
cyan lily
pale prairie
cyan lily
zealous wing
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what curio they have

near gale
tulip kettle
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its not about builds likely

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they need to practice melee

near gale
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the instant I stop having fun in games, I immediately become bored

marble crater
hearty wolf
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Dying on malice isn't a build issue

pale prairie
gray juniper
near gale
zealous wing
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at least some basic pointers could help them tbh, if they arent using good curios or put all their perks into crit (like my spouse is doing and wonders why so glass cannon shake )

tulip kettle
marble crater
hearty wolf
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That show was actually so good

near gale
marble crater
zealous wing
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stop brain swapping, its not healthy

pale prairie
pale prairie
near gale
zealous wing
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mood

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my spouse sees me sometimes and just... wonders how i exist

hearty wolf
zealous wing
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case in point, i forgot to eat today x.x

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and now that its bedtime, im realising

hearty wolf
near gale
cyan lily
zealous wing
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for me its sometimes a day, sometimes several, depends on the hyperfocus

marble crater
near gale
gray juniper
zealous wing
pale prairie
marble crater
gray juniper
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DIS NIQQA PRACTICING THE DARK ARTS

zealous wing
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nah its MAINLY just one person, and passing wish on another. had a real shit therapist once. did the opposite of what they're supposed to do, but, i will keep the list updated

pale prairie
marble crater
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Bubble knight mentioned?

pale prairie
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yeah i don't think they are read for that yet

zealous wing
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bubble i know, but what is "bubble knight" specifically?

marble crater
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Bubble + big sword

zealous wing
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fgs?

marble crater
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Yes

zealous wing
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ty

pale prairie
marble crater
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Thunderdome psyker

pale prairie
zealous wing
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i mainly just hope i can keep my current build going a while in later difficulties

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its so fun

pale prairie
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anything is viable. you just have to make up the mechanical difference with skill

zealous wing
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the main issue i forsee is ammo

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but, if i focused more on saving it for specific shit, itd work

marble crater
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Gun psyker is 90% melee and 10% gun

pale prairie
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just find and adopt a veteran make them get the ammo aura and the golden toughness shout. attach to hip

near gale
zealous wing
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i could make my spouse do that

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ez

marble crater
near gale
zealous wing
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main problem is he always GOES WANDERING OFF

pale prairie
near gale
dull scroll
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covid turned this meme into reality

marble crater
pale prairie
zealous wing
near gale
pale prairie
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exactly, Take this SQUAD its dangerous out there

zealous wing
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he mainly sees the numbers, and thinks "its not a good enough chance" for ammo regen

pale prairie
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but but but

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its so good

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Tell him that all the ammo pickups are his

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if he brings the aura

zealous wing
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he focuses more on crit damage and toughness, which is fine, until combat happens in heresy and i have to go rescue him and the bots with a burgle hot on my tail

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specifically with his psyker build, mainly

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he doesnt psyker well

pale prairie
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No one does XD

zealous wing
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he psykers worse than a rando psyker i meet in uprising lobbies

near gale
zealous wing
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the smite is handy, but, when i tried it out i knew RMB and LMB did different things... guess who did not

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(i tried it after he got his penances for it, to get mine done)

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i love him to death

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off cliffs by barrels

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BUT

near gale
gray juniper
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“Oops”

brave drift
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any build that uses the EK Staff Secondary as a focus?

radiant frigate
gray juniper
pale prairie
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I dunno sounds like the elf is the problem. look at him taking care of his kid

gray juniper
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Elves forever sus day one million

mighty agate
pale prairie
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She's too hot to handle

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darling

radiant frigate
pale prairie
vague musk
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kinda wish psyker had some sort of long rifle, just something to quickly take down a single enemy (usually gunners, fuck gunners)

verbal thistle
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vigilant auto

vague musk
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laspistol is cloest imo

verbal thistle
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try it out

mighty agate
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ZARONA

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ekhem

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pardon

vague musk
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which one is that

radiant frigate
mighty agate
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Revolver.

radiant frigate
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but anyway vigilant autogun has a semi-auto variant

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previously known as headhunter autogun

hearty wolf
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Why is there no Hammer of Dawn

mighty agate
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And zaronas beautifull skin uwugryn

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gray juniper
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That’s pretty cool but I’m not giving Aquilas for it. Saving up for another toilet bowl head accessory

mighty agate
radiant frigate
mighty agate
dull scroll
near gale
vague musk
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apperently darktide is a lot cheaper in the US then UK

near gale
vague musk
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$4

near gale
vague musk
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totally not because USD is losing value...

gray juniper
vague musk
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i think

near gale
mighty agate
gray juniper
gray juniper
near gale
gray juniper
gray juniper
near gale
gray juniper
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This is why I bought this shit years back. Spend $500 up front for big memory storage and $14 a month for a slew of games

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Cheap gamer lifestyle tbh

near gale
gray juniper
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Does steam run discounts or free plays similar?

near gale
gray juniper
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That’s not bad either ofc

near gale
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Got the imperial edition >.>

gray juniper
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I literally didn’t know it existed

near gale
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I've gotten way more value than the money I put into the game

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Same thing for vt2 and ror2 lol

gray juniper
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I’m the only warhammer enthusiast in my real life circles

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I may try to get my nephews into this

near gale
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I'm just a bit over 2k in vt2, but, ror2? lol my friend got his money's worth when he bought me ror2

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I know I still got at least maybe 1k-2k more modded hours of ror2 left in me... if not more

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that's not even counting the new dlc gearbox is working on

ripe obsidian
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Back in my day, RoR was 2D

near gale
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ror2 inspired me to 100% my vanilla ror1 profile :3

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I already had like 96% or w/e

mighty agate
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Impressive

near gale
radiant frigate
mighty agate
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I did 100% in ror2
but i suck at ror1

dull scroll
near gale
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rorr is more user friendly

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not even counting being able to set damage dealt and damage taken

radiant frigate
near gale
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rookie numbers

ripe obsidian
near gale
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I can't wait for them to release nemesis captain in starstorm 2 :3

ripe obsidian
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A lot of regulars in here are 1500+ or 2k+

near gale
ripe obsidian
near gale
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I know lol

gray juniper
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I like roleplay games where there’s a sort of environmental danger zone areas and mastering has to do with learning to flourish in the heat

near gale
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Darktide still has maybe up to 2k hours left for me if not me

gray juniper
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That can describe a lot of games yes

near gale
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as much as 4k+ if they release a chaos wastes for darktide

dull scroll
gray juniper
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I was kind of disappointed they didn’t have something like a health tick or reduced qualities mode for Darktide

pale prairie
near gale
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Even with the enemy spam chaos wastes would be a 10/10 experience for me in darktide

gray juniper
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Like “auric storm survivor” conjured up imagines of winning a game where you’re in a storm that’s slowly killing you

near gale
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chaos wastes pumped my vt2 hours from 1k to 2k

pale prairie
near gale
pale prairie
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good times

near gale
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storms on inferno are rough in ror2

gray juniper
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
gray juniper
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I want a sand storm vibe, low visibility, maybe limited movement, toughness tick damage but not health, no changing modifiers just constant enraged and health buffed enemies etc

gray juniper
near gale
gray juniper
near gale
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each area's storm is somewhat unique

gray juniper
near gale
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I don't know if there are any 40k mods in ror2

mighty agate
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you can play as space marine

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for sure

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But if something else idunno

near gale
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I tend to shy away from a lot of custom characters cause most are either ass or op and very little are inbetween

ripe obsidian
gray juniper
near gale
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There's a samus mod for risk of rain returns >.>

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It's actually pretty cool

pale prairie
mighty agate
gray juniper
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But fr why is there like no warp storm visual in higher havocs? Some here describe it as end game mode. It would be fitting

pale prairie
near gale
gray juniper
mighty agate
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yes

hearty wolf
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Ez win

pale prairie
mighty agate
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BUT IF IT'S LORE THING IM SORRY I NEVER PLAYED

hearty wolf
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Apart from the fact I pow twice

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ex dee

pale prairie
near gale
pale prairie
mighty agate
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They both real ...

near gale
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That's what she is without her power suit

pale prairie
gray juniper
# pale prairie Bruh

Ngl I’m gonna be a cheap ass and see if a sale roles around again. It was such a fat discount

pale prairie
near gale
gray juniper
pale prairie
near gale
pale prairie
near gale
mighty agate
pale prairie
mighty agate
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Like the armor is real
And the human in armor isn't real?

gray juniper
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Silence younglings

hearty wolf
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Her armor kind of fuses with her in Fusion and

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Uh

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Dread

pale prairie
# mighty agate I can't understand that logic

The logic is that zero suit came about as a fucking thirst trap. I prefer the armored bounty hunter with awesome gameplay not the incomprehensible heels. Also ya know last gift and remembrance of the species who raised her

hearty wolf
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But it's still her

pale prairie
hearty wolf
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Best 2d metroid

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And pretty fucking brutal

pale prairie
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It was like parasite but Metroid

near gale
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metroid 1 <.<

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you can get less cloths on her if you do it faster

pale prairie
# near gale

https://youtu.be/lSDXotDCSHw?si=gcP7v-KKcnGlliR0

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▶ Play video
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Try again

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First image

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She beams down

near gale
pale prairie
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In

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Suit

near gale
pale prairie
near gale
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the 1st game has both

pale prairie
near gale
mighty agate
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Okay, but still armor needs human

pale prairie
pale prairie
near gale
pale prairie
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I said first impressions are memorable

mighty agate
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He just preffer the armor concept of Samus not the oversexualised 0 suit samus

pale prairie
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First time I saw her she was in armor

mighty agate
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But still both are true samus

pale prairie
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Therefore that’s the association

near gale
pale prairie
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I said for ME

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
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Never said it wasn’t possible

near gale
pale prairie
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I said my preference, my first impression, my association was with armored samus

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Yeesh

near gale
pale prairie
# near gale ^

Where did I say it didn’t exist or wasn’t canon

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I said it was a thirst trap and acknowledged its existence

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I then said MY PREFERENCE

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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Probably. I didn't look closely

pale prairie
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Could be tentacle heads

near gale
pale prairie
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So where are we?

near gale
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since you know... samus being in armor... is still samus

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who woulda thunked >.>

deft stump
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FFS. Why are you ppl arguing about Samus now?

pale prairie
# near gale Why should I? Both are samus. I didn't think I needed to explain that samus in a...

deep breath as I have said multiple times and explained that my preference was samus in armor. If you say samus I think of armored warrior. I don’t think of bikini woman with dark hair.

If you say link, I think of kid in green tunic. Not guy in blue shirt from skyward sword or naked boxers from wilds.

My point was that first impressions land in most people’s brains and stick there. We associate words and concepts typically with our first impressions/encounters with that subject.

At no point did I argue samus zero suit was not canon. Please I beg of you read my messages before spouting off what I think and argue

near gale
mighty agate
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It's cinema

deft stump
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Also I remember Samus x Fem Chief.

near gale
deft stump
pale prairie
near gale
mighty agate
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Okay
Hes statement is wrong because both are the same person but in armor and without
BUT
I can understand that for him and in his eyes there is only one samus (In the armor)

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I think it's simple

deft stump
pale prairie
near gale
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making it false

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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This feels like way too much discussion over what could be distilled into that, "show me the real [X]" meme template.

pale prairie
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Didn’t think I showed up to speech and debate club

mighty agate
near gale
mighty agate
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I repaired my mistake

pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
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Fixed

ripe obsidian
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For some reason I didn't just search "speedrun" and spent too long figuring out maelstrom is called "flash_mission" in the code

near gale
deft stump
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I realised they never did fix the event fart armour guys going too fast before it's over.

pale prairie
gray juniper
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Still weird I never get to see this speedrun modifier in the maelstroms

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
near gale
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or a weirdly put unimplimented thing that's supposed to be like havoc's creeping blight

ripe obsidian
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It is meant to be a constant DoT

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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Pox gas has its own circumstances

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Yeah, different name

near gale
pale prairie
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That honestly sounds horrible

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Time to play only zealot knife

ripe obsidian
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Ha!

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Syllogism talked about playing it at some point

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Maybe it was so borked they removed it

near gale
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could be

ripe obsidian
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Looks like you got booped every 7 seconds, or whatever interval that 7 uses

near gale
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20 damage every 7 milliseconds

ripe obsidian
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Sounds like lore-accurate Nurgle

near gale
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Probably is

ripe obsidian
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Reject: exists > instantly killed by cholera-cancer-COVID of the everything

near gale
ripe obsidian
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Looks like 15 damage every 7 time intervals

near gale
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Okay I was joking about the 20 damage thing...

ripe obsidian
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Either way, I believe it did exist. Maybe got removed silently in the same way they sometimes remove maps for maintenance

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Like when Arby came out and fucking standing in the wrong spot crashed certain maps

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For the entire team

jovial juniper
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💀

ripe obsidian
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Either you or a dog, not sure, but if you walked into the wrong location the server had an exception error or something and dropped your mission.

near gale
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I like how yes and ok are the only options besides x'ing out lol

ripe obsidian
#

Or when they removed Excise Vault for like 2 months because of... something

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Then when it came back they had changed the mid-event area significantly

jovial juniper
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I'm 3 True Levels away from 600 on psyker

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I'm going to get those with EP BB only

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Wish me luck

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Although I don't need it

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Thx for the wishes though

ripe obsidian
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May the spirit of Ainz imbue you with EP+BB prowess

weary idol
ripe obsidian
#

Makes sense

strong gulch
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@tulip kettle @hearty wolf How did games go?

cyan lily
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Is there a tank build?

tulip kettle
pale prairie
tulip kettle
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sin was in a particlarly explosive mood today

hearty wolf
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Me?

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LOL

tulip kettle
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and i absoltely bottled the solo clutch

ripe obsidian
#

You avoid damage. If you get hit, it hurts.

ripe obsidian
cyan lily
weary idol
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yeah

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bubble inferno staff

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the standard meta for the class

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probably the easiest way to play them

tulip kettle
#

indeed

ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
#

ultimately who cares

ripe obsidian
#

Inferno + Bubble feels bad below, like, H30 imo. Even in Auric it can be iffy due to low density and squishier enemies.

cyan lily
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

That makes a massive difference with Psyker

cyan lily
ripe obsidian
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Gotcha

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I'd say easiest for Malice is probably something with Assail.

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Like Voidstrike or Electrokinetic, Assail, whatever aura, Shriek, EP.

near gale
ripe obsidian
#

Those staves because they are easy to use. EK is point-and-click, assail is as well.

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Shriek will CC enemies and help if peril overloads

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And EP will empower Assail

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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Alternatively, DD instead of EP to get better with target prioritization

ripe obsidian
near gale
ripe obsidian
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Fuck, I didn't even realize that

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But there are two 7s

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How cruel

ripe obsidian
# cyan lily 30

Note that this is not a build I would use, but I am trying to focus on defensive and easy to use nodes.

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cyan lily
ripe obsidian
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Or something like this. Feel free to tweak it to the person's playstyle

Screenshot_20250816_182658_Firefox.jpg
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I would recommend not trying Scrier's Gaze for someone who's struggling, as it has a pretty high skill floor comparatively and will be frustrating if they blow themselves up constantly

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But bubble and shriek are both solid. I mostly picked shriek because it improves individual survivability through stagger, peril clearing, and a bit of toughness generation with quietude.

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Warp Siphon is good, but I don't know if there is enough elite/special density in Malice to be worth it. DD is typically considered better than EP, but requires a bit more skill to use effectively. EP will make assail stronger and cost no peril.

jovial juniper
#

Although you can get all like

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4 tdr subnodes

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And one with the warp

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
cyan lily
ripe obsidian
#

The last one is past Solidity

jovial juniper
ripe obsidian
#

What in the hell does peam mean

jovial juniper
#

Idk chadgryn

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Best theory is that it's peak but misspelled

ripe obsidian
#

Fair enough

jovial juniper
#

Like ourple

ripe obsidian
#

I am learning so many things today

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Ourple.

radiant frigate
tulip kettle
radiant frigate
ripe obsidian
#

Okay, five is far too many

radiant frigate
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yes but that would truly be getting out of hand

near gale
radiant frigate
#

no other explanation would suffice

crisp ether
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Especially now that you quell on activation.

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It just doesn't have the utility that Shriek and Shields do that make them safer to use in general

static sonnet
#

Makes up for it with raw dps

crisp ether
#

If anything, it probably became the most safe ability to use in terms of peril overloading after the buff that made it quell on usage.

Especially with psy aura, assuming you kill enough elites and specialists.

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But thats if you use warp unbound.

long wharf
#

really slow Saturday night for Darktide

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

And I am not sure if there are enough elites/specials in Malice for Psykinetic's Aura to be effective

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This is not something I considered when recommending Shriek or Bubble over SG, but I imagine an ability with a more visual component and immediate feedback would also be better for someone learning the class.

crisp ether
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Fatshark. Warp Unbound timer when???

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Like why is that not a thing

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The buff widget is not enough.

weary idol
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the buff widget would be enough if the buff bar wasn't limited to t e n buffs

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of which 4 or 5 are usually eaten by auras and coherency

ripe obsidian
dull scroll
ripe obsidian
dull scroll
#

unless you are not of the PC master race in which case my condolences

crisp ether
#

Like I get that it exists.

ripe obsidian
#

Bethesda design philosophy. Release an unfinished game and allow the community to fix it.

dull scroll
crisp ether
#

And then realize it on a platform that can't mod

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Masterful gambit.

ripe obsidian
#

This is also bearing in mind that I have very little experience playing at that level, at least since the days of L4D2 and VT1, so I am not entirely sure what's going to be best for a new player. I was going with defensive boosts and easy-to-use abilities/weapons.

crisp ether
#

I mean you're absolutely right. It was more a jab on the irony that Scrier's in theory can be impossible to blow up with at times.

ripe obsidian
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Yeah, I don't disagree. I honestly wanna start trying SG+Inferno in Havoc for the unlimited burnination.

white valley
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Isn't vent just superior if you want to do full offense inferno?

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Half of scrier's bonuses do very little for inferno

ripe obsidian
#

Yeah, I usually use Shriek

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I just think it would be fun

white valley
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Crit chance and finesse boost are kind of useless

white valley
ripe obsidian
#

Crit chance is double blaze stacks, so not useless until you hit 15/16 stacks on an enemy

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But pretty useless thereafter

white valley
#

I mean, you already have enough crit chance without scrier's though

ripe obsidian
#

But I can have more

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I think my SG Inferno tests maxed at ~70% crit chance

white valley
#

Warp Nexus + 7.5% base + 5% perk is plenty

strong gulch
#

warp splitting on inferno

the ultimate more but not really

ripe obsidian
#

I don't use the 5% perk on my more serious builds.

white valley
#

Ah yes increased cleave for the unlimited cleave

ripe obsidian
#

Flak + Unyielding, and I still end up with like 35-40% crit chance overall

crisp ether
#

That can actually matter in the heat of a moment

white valley
#

I've swapped crit chance and unyielding around a bunch of times, and I'm very indifferent to either

ripe obsidian
#

I don't think one is inherently better than the other

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Sidegrade

white valley
#

Ye

ripe obsidian
#

I just like Unyielding b/c the random groups I play with aren't great at clearing bosses

white valley
#

I prefer crit chance tbh, boss damage is not my primary role

dull scroll
white valley
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And even then I tend to have fairly high boss damage

ripe obsidian
dull scroll
#

personally I find crit chance stacks to 15 too fast and opts for the dmg increases

white valley
#

Nothing more irritating than seeing someone slash poxwalkers with a duelling sword while I'm flaming them

solid wyvern
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Whats The Optimal Build For A Psyker havoc 40, Im Using Flame Staff And Dueling Sword

ripe obsidian
#

There are havoc builds in the pins

strong gulch
#

bulwark ans reaper deaths happening faster outside of monsters too

ripe obsidian
#

Made by assorted folks in here and aggregated by Potato

white valley
#

Plus in Havoc, unyielding doesn't affect captains

solid wyvern
solid wyvern
ripe obsidian
#

Yes. Third pin down.

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Twins are Carapace and Flak, I believe.

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So Soulblaze is Flak

white valley
ripe obsidian
strong gulch
#

Ye. I don't claim authorship of the builds in my pins. That's from community.

white valley
#

wait her center mass is unarmoured

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Does that mean soulblaze considers her unarmoured?

ripe obsidian
#

I will find out

strong gulch
#

It is this a the "skin" is x armor type but the armour over it is something else and SB picks the one that makes us the most confused??

ripe obsidian
white valley
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I dunno, scab ragers have carapace torsos but are treated as flak for soulblaze I think?

jovial juniper
#

Fatshark at it again

white valley
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most enemies make sense, it's just what their torso is

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But some are weird

ripe obsidian
#

I'm trying to find code that says what hit_zone warpfire applies to.

late sapphire
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Crushers have carapace armor over their souls

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The twins clearly don't

white valley
#

true and real

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Crushers are so sure of their armour that they're protected from warpfire

jovial juniper
#

Reapers having flak torso, Unyielding center

white valley
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Tbf they don't even have a shirt under the flak

jovial juniper
white valley
#

Ignorance is strength, so Crushers are very strong, like our sweet brutes

sullen bobcat
#

How can I make smite psyker work in havoc 30+
Not because it's a good idea
I just want to do dumb shit

jovial juniper
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Actually it became slightly better recently

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Since they nerfed the mass scaling of hordes

sullen bobcat
#

I ran into a random lfg smite psyker
They didn't do shit naturally and just died

jovial juniper
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Yeah because Smite just falls off at havoc

sullen bobcat
#

I want to suffer and do dumb things

jovial juniper
#

Too much mass so slower damage/spread

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More hp

sullen bobcat
#

Tbh, I don't even have a smite psyker build

jovial juniper
#

Just get the basics
Enfeeble Lightning Storm

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Then path through Psy Aura

sullen bobcat
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The builds I have smite on is doing it for the melee thing or just pathing

jovial juniper
#

Then Shriek

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Then EP

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The alternative is Warp Syphon

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Lots of targets to proc WS on

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But ranged enemies and bombers will make your life harder

white valley
#

Mass affects Smite? TIL

jovial juniper
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You can shoot yourself in the foot and take bubble but not recommended to pair with smite

sullen bobcat
#

Mass effect?

jovial juniper
#

Then avoid Final Toll as a whole

white valley
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But yeah a Smite build is just EP with shriek, probably take voidstrike for occasional sniping

sullen bobcat
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Tbh, I haven't used any melee besides the force greatsword in a while lol

jovial juniper
sullen bobcat
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Gunker build? Mark 8
Everything else? Mark 6

jovial juniper
#

For example a monstrosity has 20 mass
Your smite will tick once every 2 seconds iirc

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Unless you have Enfeeble

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Then you'll tick twice over 2 seconds

sullen bobcat
#

In havoc, I just play whatever's needed
I'm pretty much always on plasma vet or bubble psyker now đŸ€·

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you know what we need in this team? A third fucking arbie

ripe obsidian
sullen bobcat
#

I love my women unarmored

white valley
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Unarmoured meta in havoc

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Gonna slap +unarmoured on my staff from now on

jovial juniper
#

Note to self
Find hd version

sullen bobcat
#

no
Run it through more deep fried filters

white valley
#

Look fam it's for that big twins damage

sullen bobcat
#

Are the fake twins the same stats as the one in the story mission?

jovial juniper
#

Twins from the assignment have 72k HP at damnation

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From the havoc, I'm not sure

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I'd say they would have assassination HP (40k) plus havoc boss HP modifier

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But I'm not sure

sullen bobcat
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Well, armor values
And the shield having the vulnerabilities and damage modifiers

ripe obsidian
#

Yes, it should be the same

sullen bobcat
#

Health in havoc is just "pray you have enough dps"

ripe obsidian
#

It looks like the twins have breed_type of minion rather than monster, so I think their HP boost should only be 30% instead of 70%?

white valley
#

That probably makes sense

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They don't take long to bring down

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They crumble very quickly with a focused team effort

ripe obsidian
#

And because their shield isn't damage gated

white valley
#

That definitely plays a huge role yeah

sullen bobcat
ripe obsidian
#

All twins should be the same stats

# 
        local monster_health_modifier = self:get_modifier_value("modify_monster_health") or 0

        modifier = modifier + monster_health_modifier
    ```

For havoc
tulip kettle
sullen bobcat
tulip kettle
#

i thought its capped at 6% of max per instance of dmg

ripe obsidian
# tulip kettle ?

Twins shields do not come back up on a set amount of damage like captains

tulip kettle
#

oh i see what you mean

white valley
ripe obsidian
#

Oh, I was looking at the wrong spot. Still not tagged as a monster, though.

        captain = true,
        minion = true,
    },```
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Whereas a spawn or burgle would have monster = true

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Why can creature spawner not spawn a captain for me to check. >:(

jovial juniper
ripe obsidian
#

Can you not fight the twins at will anymore? I don't see the option in the terminal

tulip kettle
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no i think its only available as part of the cmapaign

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you can with the replay story missions mod

ripe obsidian
#

That's annoying

white valley
#

The assignment's gone?

strong gulch
tulip kettle
#

of note, using replay story missions to start the campaign twins mission will allow people to quickplay into it

ripe obsidian
#

But unless I am missing something, I don't think captains get any kind of damage or HP boost in Havoc. They aren't tagged as monsters, horde, special, or elite

ripe obsidian
#

Oh my lord it is

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Wait, no it isn't

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I just can't read

strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

I don't have renegade_captain in my list

strong gulch
#

i'll check in a moment

ripe obsidian
#

Oh, I figured it out

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Have to set the available unit list to "all"

hearty wolf
#

Twins are 40khp +30k shield or something iirc

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
#

You could just use a VoD

ripe obsidian
#

Yeah, captains do not get an HP boost in Havoc

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
#

Either way

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You can 1 them with thunder hammert

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fake boss

ripe obsidian
#

I'll one-hit you with a thunder hammer

hearty wolf
#

I'm not Dom

white valley
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So Twins have close to the same total hp as a monstrosity in havoc

strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

In Psykhanium, at least, the twins have 72k health. But it also doesn't give them shields.

strong gulch
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Maybe I have another mod doing something to the categorization.

jovial juniper
#

companion_dog

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Oh wow

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I can have em all

pure mesa
#

hey guys for damnation and auric whats better voidblast/trauma or voidstrike build?

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or EK

ripe obsidian
#

All are good.

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I like Voidstrike and EK more in Auric

mighty agate
#

on auric everything works
even smite

strong gulch
#

Play whichever is more fun. Havocs are the land of inferno and VB. So people can get burnt out play those.

pure mesa
#

i gotta try it

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I found infernus build boring

mighty agate
pure mesa
jovial juniper
#

It's also strong af

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Which fits the Fatshark metric

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Strong stuff is boring

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Fun stuff is weak

pure mesa
#

you have to be a fat shark to understand

mighty agate
#

Nurgle fan*

gray juniper
#

The perfidious Swede

tulip kettle
gray juniper
mighty agate
#

Im saying that purgatus build is boring
But when i start to playing i spent almost 500hours on auric using only smite build

ripe obsidian
#

Further information: I don't think center mass actually matters for warpfire, actually. I think it just uses the default armor_type.

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Example on Scab Rager:

armor_type = armor_types.armored,

        [hit_zone_names.center_mass] = armor_types.super_armor,
        [hit_zone_names.torso] = armor_types.super_armor,
    },```
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Since the rager's default is flak, and soulblaze specifies no hitzone, it just uses the base armor type instead of the armor type override.

# 

    if has_toughess and toughness_armor_type then
        armor_type = toughness_armor_type
    
elseif hit_zone_name_or_nil then
        armor_type = breed.hitzone_armor_override and attack_type_or_nil ~= "impact" and breed.hitzone_armor_override[hit_zone_name_or_nil] or breed.armor_type
    
else
        armor_type = breed.armor_type
    
end```

From the "armor.lua" file
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If no armor type is specified for the hit, then it defaults

buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
#

RIP

buoyant maple
#

just take my word for it

ripe obsidian
#

I am not good at that thing

buoyant maple
#

it's why reaper wearing flak vest still uses unyielding for explosive dmg (and has 2x dmg multi vs explosion)

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and scab rager wearing carapace vest uses carapace for explosive dmg (which massively reduces explosions' dmg like most grenades and VB)

ripe obsidian
# 
        [hit_zone_names.right_shoulderguard] = armor_types.super_armor,
        [hit_zone_names.torso] = armor_types.armored,
        [hit_zone_names.lower_left_arm] = armor_types.super_armor,
        [hit_zone_names.lower_right_arm] = armor_types.super_armor,
    },```
jovial juniper
buoyant maple
#

explosion uses center mass

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which is a diff thing from "torso"

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why?

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cuz fatshark

ripe obsidian
#

Ah, okay

#

I did not see this fix

weary idol
#

doesn't that mean that scab ragers are still flak

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to explosions/dot

buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
buoyant maple
#

base (used for DOT) is flak

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center mass (used for explosion) is carapace

weary idol
#

why are these even seperate things

buoyant maple
#

great question

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because fatshark

jovial juniper
ripe obsidian
buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
#

And here you could've tricked me into doing it for you.

buoyant maple
#

so I'm gonna delay guide by at least another 2 weeks

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prob

#

minimum

jovial juniper
#

As always

buoyant maple
#

I had this going on

Screenshot_20250816_224643.png
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but having to make a graph for every enemy

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massively slows it down

ripe obsidian
buoyant maple
#

as well as the weird ones like explosion dmg multi

ripe obsidian
#

So ADMs for ranged and melee per body part per enemy?

buoyant maple
#

afaik nothing has DOT multi

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or warp dmg multi

#

they're not ADMs

#

they're "damage taken" multipliers

ripe obsidian
#

Ah. I don't know if I knew that was a thing

buoyant maple
#

remember ogryn's soften them up

#

that's x1.15 dmg taken multiplier

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for every enemy hit by ogryn's melee attack

#

enemies can have these multipliers baked into their body parts

#

which can be >1 or <1

#

most notably, both flamers, both bombers, pox hound and mutant all have x3 melee dmg taken multiplier

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dreg rager has x0.85 ranged dmg taken multiplier on weakspot

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and twins have x2 melee dmg taken multiplier

ripe obsidian
#

I often wonder if this level of complexity is necessary.

#

Especially when it's so hidden

buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
#

I can try.

buoyant maple
#

cuz his is a bit outdated now

ripe obsidian
#

I don't know what his graphs are

ripe obsidian
weary idol
#

Fatshark devs are just weird

ripe obsidian
#

It's a level of complexity I would more expect from, like, a 1v1 fighting game

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Or maybe monster hunter

#

If the information were more readily available, it might make sense. But it's needlessly obscure

#

"Why does X work like this?"
"Who knows?"

jovial juniper
#

If you hit x in the y, the x does the c animation

weary idol
#

the bubble damage doesn't scale with anything and is a fixed damage value