psyker-class

[marble crater]

Elite 2 is such garbage

[gray juniper]

Fair point. Those smelly rags won’t dry themselves

[pale prairie]

Is he wrong though?

[gray juniper]

You’d have to be a fool to buy one

[gray juniper]

If I was on main I would’ve made him look bad

[pale prairie]

That’s his havoc 40 man

[trail scroll]

For them it...may be >_>

[gray juniper]

He had the budding interrogator tag. The grief behind the subtext is so much

[shut pier]

I havent touched havoc because Im trying to get all the penances for my class and I feel like doing that in havoc would get me killed

[gray juniper]

In havoc people are just trying to win so yea probably

[trail scroll]

Early havocs are very easy tbh, though will say do Penance Farming in QP yes

[gray juniper]

Lost 6 games yesterday trying to help a couple newer players do theirs. Two abites and no one could kill bosses apparently

[trail scroll]

[gray juniper]

lol yea

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[gray juniper]

I mean it is what it is. They’ll have to learn in a game at some point

[trail scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[trail scroll]

It's part of the game to learn over time and improve

Or stay stuck basically

[gray juniper]

I told one guy how to build agent’s havoc arbites and he said he didn’t have enough diamantine to finish the maul. It was a omen lol

[trail scroll]

[gray juniper]

Yep

[plucky flax]

[gray juniper]

It’s ok. Taking those ugly Ls is probably important

Psyker last alive every match

https://tenor.com/view/hero-super-hero-superman-wait-im-coming-gif-17734378

[gray juniper]

I forgive

Jokes aside god bless agent and company for having patience with some of us in high havoc. Clutching multiple times a match is tiresome so it must be ass higher up

[plucky flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVlsTRjjSUw

[ripe obsidian]

I saw the mindset of "stuck" a lot when I played League of Legends, years ago. There's this stigma that if you aren't at the highest rank, you're failing. Which is not an ideal way to view a video game, or life in general, in my opinion. Many people quickly lash out and express that they are 'stuck' due to factors out of their control, like teammate performance. But I think that stems from a feeling of being out of control in many other aspects of life, and if you can't control something you voluntarily do as a hobby...

[gray juniper]

That’s what I looked like in that sewer map one you had

[ripe obsidian]

There's a song by Riverside, I forget which, that has the phrase, "You have to move as fast as you can to stay in the same place." And in most Modernist and Postmodernist literature there is a prevailing theme of the world moving too quickly for people to keep up.

[plucky flax]

That team went down/die about 10+ times in 4 minutes.

Extremely normal behaviour.

[trail scroll]

My experience with LoL/DoTA2 is that majority of those individuals who are in that state do not take self accountability for their own play, but often look to others for their failures in the match.

[gray juniper]

Ok we weren’t that bad

[ripe obsidian]

It is true. Hence what I said about a lack of control.

[trail scroll]

Yee

[gray juniper]

I need potato to vouch that in babbys first havoc 40 I made it all the way to the the 3/4 point of the map

[trail scroll]

Its a compounding issue, at that point right, creating a ton of negative thoughts and feelings?

[ripe obsidian]

People desperately seek control of anything. The 24/7 news cycle constantly reporting doom adds to that. And if you can't prevent a small doom (see: loss) in a hobby, then what can you do?

[ripe obsidian]

Absolutely

[trail scroll]

Negativity breeds more negativity

[gray juniper]

This is why news is extremely unhealthy to ingest

[ripe obsidian]

Being frustrated about losing a game, especially after investing a lot of time and energy, is normal.

But that frustration often compounds with other issues, as you said.

[gray juniper]

News journals are one thing but tv news is a poisonously designed thing

[gray juniper]

Yea it’s obvious when people flip out over something that’s meant for fun in the first place that something is going on

[pale prairie]

looks at white maul at 300 power hmmmmmmmmmm

[gray juniper]

No bullshit he almost took an underpowered maul into the match. Thank god I asked lol

We may have lost but it feels accomplished to have people listen and use feedback to try to succeed

I won’t get a win with him but the overall community will improve from it

[ripe obsidian]

Not that it's gonna happen, but I think a first step to alleviating it is to change the cultural idea that you have to be the best at a game for it to be worthwhile. As much as I enjoy Fromsoft games, the "git gud" mentality and gatekeeping have been super toxic for video games on the whole. And that's on top of the competitive scene, where losing feels even worse.

[pale prairie]

I have stopped providing feedback unless asked. It’s not worth the effort of typing

[ripe obsidian]

That's a good rule for life. Don't provide unsolicited feedback.

[pale prairie]

I don’t need to be the best. I just want to feel like I PLAYED MY BEST. That’s all it’s a contest against myself

[trail scroll]

In truth its a lot of variables and circumstances, those blowups tend to be a symptom and not the root cause.

[pale prairie]

Did I ask for your opinion on feedback?

/s

[gray juniper]

It may sound judgmental but it’s learned from empathetic analysis from these interactions, these people want something to be elite in and in worst cases also their place to look down on others. A personality flaw rearing its head

[gray juniper]

Yes tend to agree

[wind wind]

Pre gunner patch they were pretty bad

Someone else can explain

[pale prairie]

It’s like road rage. They get on the game already mad or simmering

[gray juniper]

I’ve had those days of working long hours then think erroneously “I’ll hop on the game with the 20-30 minute I have a get a win” then it doesn’t happen and there’s other player stressors on top, people are voice chatting fervently and I say something dickish too

[ripe obsidian]

I think it's normal to want to be good at things, especially things you choose to do. Looking down on others is... unfortunately normal as well. =/

[pale prairie]

Man my games are usually like the grave. So quiet and we are all dead

[strong gulch]

Not what's being discussed exactly but can look like it, if the game does bullshit like not letting me block, freezes and causes me to die or lose progress on something I've been working hard on, or something like that, I do get meltdowns about it.

[pale prairie]

Pretty normal. I think the gist is that taking it out on teammates is not productive or healthy emoting. But when you care about something it’s perfectly normal to be upset when it doesn’t work out

[strong gulch]

OR WHEN YOU CLICK ON A LINK TO A POST IN DISCORD AND IT JUST GIVES UP ON SCROLL TO THE DANG POST! madge

[pale prairie]

Pffff losing the 1 match I queue up for before bed? Couldn’t be me 🚬

[trail scroll]

Hyup. And what should bring them catharsis or at least a dopamine dump is making their blood pressure raise and fill them with cortisol, and enhancing whatever negative emotion they had.

[strong gulch]

ye

[pale prairie]

WHO FORMATTED THESE PINNED POSTS

[strong gulch]

sry it was me

[trail scroll]

WHY ARE WE SHOUTING

[strong gulch]

I was angy

[pale prairie]

Because that’s how you talk to people across the ocean

They lives on a tiny island, see? The land Angland and they’s talks funny, see? And blimey if they dun’t find us yanks to be proper out of sorts!

[trail scroll]

Fair enough

Let it out

[strong gulch]

These are cute.

[trail scroll]

Fav emotes

[deft stump]

Nu.

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-ram-punching-bag-revenge-angry-gif-15432826

[deft stump]

Yep. 360 lasted for ages vs the new ones.

[strong gulch]

me

[marble crater]

Why not? Your PC performance will be better

[pale prairie]

Are they the shark guy from
Marvel rivals?

[marble crater]

Fred or whatever his name is?

[pale prairie]

True Goat

[deft stump]

Nu.

[marble crater]

Yes

[pale prairie]

Doesn’t need it. Doesn’t even need a gamer chair just that good

[ripe obsidian]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu_(letter)

[strong gulch]

"new"

mew

https://tenor.com/view/mew-cat-kitten-kitty-cute-gif-17624380

[pale prairie]

Lmao I immediately followed the link to hear the pronunciation

[proper osprey]

I play on controller lol

[pale prairie]

But do you use the elite 2 Xbox controller?

[proper osprey]

Narp

[gray juniper]

Is it controller or whole new set of prejudices on its own? Who knows. You’d have to ask them

[proper osprey]

Some Chinese brand called bigbigwon it’s the blitz2 tmr

[proper osprey]

Idk I will say this from playing on mnk and controller there’s almost no difference lol in fact the movement is better on controller

[pale prairie]

Damn won is Korean currency so BIGBIG MONEY

[proper osprey]

[pale prairie]

Haven’t seen any of that in my games. It’s just straight up “you suck as a person/player” hardware has nothing to do with it

[gray juniper]

That’s when you guys hear me saying damnit repeatedly on the mic. I get so frustrated when it won’t let me switch weapons to block and clearly I had but it’s not registering

[proper osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1402189679889092618/Warhammer_40000__Darktide_8_5_2025_2_16_24_AM.png?ex=6894fca7&is=6893ab27&hm=66c8036459337e79f4b3ba4ad8b183b91896e5d9a1ffbf33f27706de868915c0& reminder I did this on controller lol

[ripe obsidian]

Your damage taken is still missing a k.

[proper osprey]

It’s a bug

I took 3.4K

[pale prairie]

What in the hell was this game and what was load out?

[proper osprey]

Tac axe zealot

[gray juniper]

Photoshopped out

[proper osprey]

[pale prairie]

Fucking diabolical

That’s a lot of sprinting

[gray juniper]

Lot of chopping

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/terrible-zealot-build

[trail panther]

I got a godroll on the laspistol aswell

[pale prairie]

I want to see distance traveled

[proper osprey]

Kinda a lot of stuff died quickly

[trail panther]

I'm gonna try it out in a minute

[proper osprey]

Well except the bon and cspawn

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[trail panther]

should I just do the same build on it as the recon lasgun?

[pale prairie]

Crazy the game lasted 38 min with you guys icing stuff fast. Must have been wild

[fluid aspen]

Surge doesn't work on Voidblast/Trauma charged attack right?

[proper osprey]

Honestly laspistol is crazy on psyker

[proper osprey]

Only vs

[fluid knot]

Whats most alarming about that video is that they all have havoc 40 tags...

[gray juniper]

Very nice. Sometimes o go back to the shop for something else while my luck is hot

[pale prairie]

Nope

[fluid aspen]

Thanks

[fluid knot]

Like how exactly?

[strong gulch]

correct

[pale prairie]

It’s a real crying shame

[fluid aspen]

Indeed

[trail panther]

should I just do flak, unyielding, infernus, dum-dum on the pistol aswell?

[fluid aspen]

How is Trauma against armor anyway? What bodypart does it count on the explosion?

[proper osprey]

Really good

[fluid aspen]

Yeah I wanna try a Rending one for the event but I'd need to grind some mastery

[pale prairie]

Doesn’t much matter when they are on their ass and on fire!

[fluid knot]

Its obnoxious amounts of CC, it has kinda ass breakpoints, but massive control

[edgy smelt]

against a single armor its better to stab for dps, however its great against walls of armor

[gray juniper]

Yes or somewhat. Get a taste for how it plays then make a decision. Infernus is a go-to, but things like ghost or other blessings can be options also

[strong gulch]

Pretty much. IDK what the perks should be. I forgor. But otherwise is the same. Hit those weakspots with it and the damage is a lot. Less ammo econ, so more assail use compared to recon.

[trail panther]

I don't use assail anymore, I switch to smite and save it for pox bursters and ccing other targets of high priority

[fluid aspen]

I'd imagine Rending is a good blessing, and then Warp Nexus alongside?

Or Blazing?

[proper osprey]

Rending warp flurry is what I use

[pale prairie]

On trauma? I’d go blazing and nexus

[fluid knot]

Ye, same

Idk if thats optimal or not, but Flurry certainly adds to the CC nature of it

[proper osprey]

For perks I use flak Cara

[fluid aspen]

Can the charged attack crit on Trauma?

[fluid knot]

Its got kinda mid DPS at the best of times anyway so might as well lean into what its good at

Flurry + Celerity Stim is a very funny thing into armour blobs tho

[strong gulch]

The 2 varients are blazing spirit + nexus or rending + flurry

The fire one is stronger and has more synergy with talents, but both are good.

[fluid aspen]

Cheers. I'll check out both flurry and nexus and see what I like once I have the mastery

[pale prairie]

That’s why blazing is fun. Makes you into a half inferno with the right talents

[proper osprey]

If I purely build trauma I go gaze

With nexus and bs

[trail panther]

idk I think i'll just go infernus dum dum again

none of the others seem particularly interesting to me

maybe the chained weakspot one ig

[fluid knot]

On Recon?

Or Laspistol?

[trail panther]

heavy laspistol

[fluid knot]

Ah ye, Dumdum Infernus then

[fluid aspen]

I already have a Purg build for fire psyker, though I guess Trauma would be a nice alternative for some extra range

[strong gulch]

infernus dumdum is the meta pick

iirc flak + unyielding (manaic would also work)

[pale prairie]

If you build it right and know what you’re doing it provides a lot of the benefits of inferno while also providing really good CC to help team

[trail scroll]

Maybe

[strong gulch]

Meta auric builds in pins for trauma.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-channing-tatum-22jump-street-disguise-gif-8025876

[trail scroll]

LOL

Yes

[strong gulch]

But ifyou want to change it up because whatever, go for it

[pale prairie]

Yeah this is a kookie weird build space.

Like soul drinker scriers gaze inferno where you only LMB

[strong gulch]

I persoally like assail trauma, but I wouldn't post that as a best in slot kind of thing

[gray juniper]

I’d go flak and maniacs for pistol because it take just as much of a few more to kill those targets compared to recon. Pistol comes with some less ammo overall too

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-shia-la-beouf-flame-gif-4445204

[strong gulch]

Las pistol does have good unyielding damage.

Good for us.

lmao

[trail scroll]

It's also fun and mobile

Movement is life

[plucky flax]

As per the tittle. This was a havoc ready lobby.

[strong gulch]

🙋

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

Noob ready lobby

[gray juniper]

Hey buddy. You’re talking about 3 havoc forged players. Show some respect

[marble crater]

I did, I said they are ready

[gray juniper]

Jokes aside, it’s always like it’s the same two problems in games no matter the rank

1. Nobody looking behind
2. Knowingly splitting up

I guess #3 would be people still getting rocked by the twins

[marble crater]

#4 is people fucking around, because they don't take it seriously in a pre-made

[gray juniper]

True

[strong gulch]

aurics

YOu, Clad, and I just going all goofy brained.

[gray juniper]

It should be unsaid that psykers job isn’t to guard the rear. I don’t know why a lot of groups will subconsciously force that but that’s part of where the team gap comes in

[pale prairie]

Cause we are slow and scared

[pale prairie]

At least me

I am paranoid as fuck so I look behind a lot. That makes me the rearguard I guess

[gray juniper]

Nobody is taking run and gun in the first place and staff use makes 2x as slow by default. It’s just stupid if people would think

[trail scroll]

"I have a present for you, ITS A NET"

[gray juniper]

“Baggum up toight!”

[trail panther]

left 4 dead ingrained the habit in me of constantly turning around if I don't see my teammates ahead of me

[pale prairie]

“NURGLES BLESSING FOR YOU!”

[trail scroll]

Smokers

Hunters

_>

[gray juniper]

No bullshit the tox bomber has incredible aura

[marble crater]

I look behind, because my team won't

[pale prairie]

Why would they when they have a chad pro console player like you?

[fluid knot]

I don't look behind because Zealot brainrot D:

[pale prairie]

[marble crater]

Because they use a mouse, so obviously they can look behind 5 times in the time it takes me to turn around

[wispy bay]

Looking behind is for cowards. And I'm one of them.

[trail scroll]

"If front is toward enemy, and enemy all around, am I not always facing the enemy?"

[pale prairie]

Yeah but when YOU look things die

[wispy bay]

Btw, recently, I got hit by trapper through covers a lot more often.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[marble crater]

[pale prairie]

Literal chills

[fluid knot]

Its always been a problem

0.1 inch hole in a wall? Fuck you, you're getting netted

[wispy bay]

Not for me until the recent patches

[fluid knot]

Most gutting is when it happens through the floor

[pale prairie]

Yeah I mean just always assume that cover isn’t there for them. The net already jumps THROUGH MONSTROSITIES

[wispy bay]

That though... I hate it so much.

[fluid knot]

Netters really need a hitmass limit

They shouldnt be shooting through monsters, or indeed 15 Crushers

[wispy bay]

Hear me out, shotgun and plasma should stop net.

[gray juniper]

Like shooting the net?

[fluid knot]

Idk about that, but being netted from behind something so you can't even see the damn thing just feels kinda shit

[wispy bay]

Yes

[gray juniper]

That and watching a friend get ass beat inside a burgle in the same match

[pale prairie]

So hard to tell if I am dodging perpendicular to them when I can’t even see them through all the bodies

[strong gulch]

Right? I swear they are different. Even staggering or knocking them over has felt different.

[pale prairie]

Hear me out the arbites dog should be able to be netted

Let me use its body like a shield

[gray juniper]

Noticed this lately too; if a team mate kills a trapper after the net is out, the net will disappear. If you do it and it’s targeted at you, you’ll likely still get trapped

[strong gulch]

Yes it has, but it seems like it's been worse lately.

[pale prairie]

Yeah took my all my cleave from Voidstrike and gave it to the goddamn trapper of all people

[pale prairie]

Yikes

[fluid knot]

Arb' mains mad at the thought

[pale prairie]

Finally the dog can make up for pushing bursters

[fluid knot]

Though lets be real, most people playing Arb' are the same group playing Ogryn atm, they're not playing it because they like the class, they're playing it because its OP as shit

[pale prairie]

I have seen soooo many rumblers

[fluid knot]

Yup

[pale prairie]

“Yo big man stop using me for cover”

[fluid knot]

Rumbler + MKIII Club an they're still the last one to push up into any given engagement. Rather infuriating

[pale prairie]

Just tell them there’s ammo inside the horde

[gray juniper]

This really pisses me off. Gunners can’t shoot through a mass of ogryns but trappers can shoot through anyone somehow? Nah

[deft stump]

Nu.

[deft stump]

Gib office chair, more comfy.

[gray juniper]

Because they’re clutching it like a life raft

[pale prairie]

Love that for you

[deft stump]

Nu!

[deft stump]

Mew!

[fluid knot]

Yeah... like OK, Trappers need some liberties with thier net or they become a total non-issue, but like jfc its a bit over the top atm

[pale prairie]

“THIS WILL GIVE ME THE YELLOWNUMBERS OF GLORY!!!! GIVE MY EXISTENCE MEANING BANG BANG BANG BANG!!”

[fluid knot]

Though Trappers are far less annoying than Bulwarks.

Least engaging enemy in the roster

No contest

[pale prairie]

Bulwarks are fine. I will take them over specials any day

[gray juniper]

Trapper through a bulwark legion is last straw for me

[pale prairie]

Anyone noticing phasing dogs? Feels like they can jump through enemies lately

[gray juniper]

Somewhat

[pale prairie]

Yeaaaaaa

[vestal trench]

mutant toss into net into fire grenade true combo is my 13th reason

[fluid knot]

Bulwarks are fine under four and only four conditions; You have grenades you can spam, a weapon with infinite cleave, shout/chorus or Catachan Sword, for everything else they're miserable

[gray juniper]

Idk if it’s lag on my end or what but because I’m playing in a janky fashion in the first place I won’t consider my lone accounts without verification

[strong gulch]

Love how when the sandwich is triggered and you are cornered by like 15+ bulwarks it's not them that are the problem. It's 1 trapper running around.

[gray juniper]

This is why I switched to unyielding on staff. I got tired and want to negate the whole situation

[strong gulch]

Like, can even duck snipers when you're smash up against a wall and can't see.

but mommy is scary

[gray juniper]

They block everything yet much can go through them

[gray juniper]

That’s why I ran that last havoc we played. I heard that chuckle and couldn’t chance it

[strong gulch]

IDK what I was doing. Then boxed in.

[gray juniper]

I’m no sycorax expert so I’m not sure how it fell apart

[pale prairie]

Lone accounts?

[gray juniper]

Like individual observations

[fluid knot]

My proposal for fixing shield boys and it is the only correct fix

Fucks sake discord

[pale prairie]

Yeah this is why I have KD I am sweating the big guys but I can run away from them . It’s the specials with their mocking voice lines echoing around that I CANT SEE

[strong gulch]

I should have taken the long way around away from the gunners to wait out the bulwarks instead of rushing the res. That was my fuck up.

[fluid knot]

We try again

[gray juniper]

The game itself and especially havoc has been super buggy for me this week so I wouldn’t take anything I’ve seen as a norm anyway. I got stuck inside a twin and a wall in two different matches

[pale prairie]

Shit I didn’t know that

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/ni-no-nu-holygrail-gif-12608476772158713314

[trail scroll]

NI

[hearty wolf]

Or because it's the only melee class that doesn't feel dog shit to play

[pale prairie]

Hmmmm I think it’s a shield? With a really big window?

[deft stump]

But is true. If I could afford it, I would go for a nice posh super plush chair for a boss.

[fluid knot]

Noone said Ogryns are smart

[strong gulch]

Wish I was recording, because it was silly. Here is a different clip tho. Closest I have.

[gray juniper]

Ngl I can’t remember all the details of surrounding situations because it was hectic and too long ago but you were holding out lowkey hardcore. I wanted to try to back you up without drawing more aggro there at the same time so I was conflicted af

[strong gulch]

valid

lmao

[hearty wolf]

Ooooooooo very nice

[deft stump]

And now add 300+ ping on top for trappers.

[vestal trench]

"stuck inside a twin"

the karnaks:

[deft stump]

Great fun.

[trail scroll]

[strong gulch]

Don't worry. The bubble will show up in 5 business days.

[gray juniper]

No bullshit idk what happened but I blocked and dodged a sword rush and bumped into a horde walker. The twin moved then I didn’t seem him anymore until I realize we’re standing in the same place

[trail scroll]

It's being sent by carriage

[deft stump]

At that point, I might have killed it with 7/10 throwing knoifes.

[west spire]

This does not soften my stance on psykers, fyi.

[pale prairie]

I always rush the res out of anxiety

[gray juniper]

“You’re 3” inside Rodin Karnak and Rinda is 3” inside of you. Do you go forward or back up?”

[strong gulch]

I don't have PlayStation, but apparently there is a pass something or other and Abiotic Factor might be free to play. Good game.

I might start a new playthrough.

[trail scroll]

Is that a horror movie?

[vestal trench]

yea

idk if it's out yet

[trail scroll]

It looks like one of those meme edits for a movie poster

[vestal trench]

o it is

[trail scroll]

Fake movie and all that

[vestal trench]

it came out the other week

[trail scroll]

Ahhhh

Huh

[vestal trench]

the posters are crazy

[trail scroll]

Very traditional bodyhorror, interessting

[strong gulch]

A vinyl chair and you during summer.

[vestal trench]

in hindsight i prolly shouldve spoilered those

o well

[pale prairie]

Holy crap that is metal as fuck

[strong gulch]

Me when I got a macro lens for my phone

[vestal trench]

lmfao fr

got a pixel phone after years of not getting a new phone

[deft stump]

That's my zealot there.

[vestal trench]

the quality is

[trail scroll]

Congrats! lets gooooo

Enjoy your new phone!

[gray juniper]

The secret sauce to zealot is maxing use on the throwing knives

Every time I end up in a bad spot I should’ve zipped a holy hand blade

[strong gulch]

Hope you like it

[pale prairie]

That’s happened to me before but the game caused their shield to do the explode thing and I instadied

[gray juniper]

Yea he got me like that too

[vestal trench]

yea ive had it since may

no issues so far

[pale prairie]

Don’t get pinned to the wall by rinda or she will make you explode…

[vestal trench]

i once missed a trapper head with knife and it domino'd into a wipe

that was the end of my darktide for the day

[deft stump]

Also, git gudder at understanding the suffering of psykers.

[pale prairie]

Yeah gaslighting is hard work

[deft stump]

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-green-mile-gif-17328904180409510666

[west spire]

No

[vestal trench]

i cant tell if your pfp is integra from hellsing

[deft stump]

Oh no, I was helping him with penances, it was a good day for dings to my rescue ppl penance.

[deft stump]

Is my vet.

[vestal trench]

ah

[deft stump]

Licht drew it so...

[pale prairie]

Is that an arbie penance?

[deft stump]

No, the rescue teammates one.

I just need 30 more rescues to be done.

[woeful sigil]

is it worth using brittleness perks on trauma force / flame staff

[pale prairie]

Where is it listed?

[deft stump]

Tactical, I think. I got off the game.

[dull scroll]

easy, play stealth zealot, aggro dump so teammates goes down, then use stealth to rez them 😏

[pale prairie]

Your team will thank you but your yellow numbers will be sad

[woeful sigil]

I kinda wish it was just a character perk for soulblaze rather than a weapon perk

[pale prairie]

Damn that’s fucking sick

[fluid knot]

Boi I love aggroing the whole room and dumping it all on the Rumber Ogryn, he can cope with it

[deft stump]

REJECTED. I do NAWT do such a thing ever.

[pale prairie]

Big man!

[west spire]

Cool, ill keep playing the shittastic psyker.

[pale prairie]

I think you’ll find that many here would enjoy a talent adjustment and tree pathing fix

[fluid knot]

(All of us, on multiple classes, ples)

[pale prairie]

Hahahaha I just want a small portion of what the Ogryn and arbites have. You can keep the broken talents though

[deft stump]

Some people are just like that... Awful. Not gonna.

[deft stump]

So I get to watch you keep blowing yourself up panicking?

[pale prairie]

I don’t want to believe people would do that for a penance. I mean sure I’ve been left to die by stealth vet but I am sure it was so they could rescue me later…..wait a minute

[deft stump]

Well, you found out why.

[deft stump]

Maybe you need a handler yourself, hrmph.

[fluid knot]

Its pretty common

[west spire]

-.- got a few more pens to finish so unfortunately, yeah.

[fluid knot]

People refusing to pull nets so someone goes down

That one is very often

You know its intentional too because they'll spend the time it takes said player to go down fighting like two poxwalkers and run over for the res as soon as it happens

[pale prairie]

I guess I never noticed

[pale prairie]

Okay this happened to me yesterday

[deft stump]

Heh, guess the handler is now the one being handled.

[deft stump]

Why the game is getting worse to play. People are just purposely doing it for such makes it worse for the newer player experience.

[gray juniper]

Bro lmaooo

[gray juniper]

It really do be like that. I never throw one knife after these lessons

[deft stump]

I throw 7.

4-6 bodyshots should kill, worse come to worse, right?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/minion-pin-head-scream-aaaagh-pain-gif-15120609

[gray juniper]

Hey buddy. You know whose turf you’re on?

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-wizard-money-gang-gif-4210733517086831125

[west spire]

I'll handle you. xp

[woeful sigil]

which dueling sword would you say is best, I usually just use combat knife or greatsword

[strong gulch]

Generally DS is taken to poke armor. DS4 is simplest to use and the general go to.

If you already have uncanny stacks up just do H1H2. If you don't yet have uncanny stacks up, you can H1S for faster stack building then H1H2.

[deft stump]

Don't care, you will get a shot or a shard through your skull if you wish to press on.

[deft stump]

Hrm? Said the psyker who blew themselves up constantly.

[west spire]

XP

[trail panther]

I tried both marks of the laspistol

I much prefer the recon lasgun tbh

[fluid knot]

Someome needs to take Crystalline Will 😄

[trail panther]

laspistol is still cool but the recon is wayyyy too funny

[deft stump]

He has it.

[fluid knot]

Well...

[deft stump]

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

[fluid knot]

[strong gulch]

laspistol is clicking sim and it makes me mad

[fluid knot]

I mean, kinda all guns are like that in DT

If its giving you an RSI, just download the FullAuto mod

[west spire]

I had it...

[strong gulch]

Recon you just hold down the button

[deft stump]

Just, OOPS... Me... Do I need to backtrack to save the medicrate? I guess I do. Runs all the way back as Oggy.

[strong gulch]

laspistol is click for every shot

[jovial juniper]

All roads lead to recon

[fluid knot]

See above, FullAuto mod

[west spire]

XP

[strong gulch]

Yes but that's a mod.

[fluid knot]

It is

[strong gulch]

One that also has a tendency to break.

[fluid knot]

Not very often in my experience

[strong gulch]

It should just be hold it down

[fluid knot]

Every now an then, but not commonly

[strong gulch]

It breaks fairly often for me. Not as bad as it used to be.

But again is a mod.

It is one small thing that changes how accesible the weapon is.

[fluid knot]

🤷‍♂️ People be hammering the life out of their left mouse button in melee, i dunno why its so abhorrent with ranged options, its just a minor irritation at best

[strong gulch]

Accessability

[fluid knot]

Its the same thing as melee though, fundamentally you're pressing the same button over and over

[strong gulch]

1 less instance to spam a button

i also can't do heavy spam on DS reliably due to my hands

[vague musk]

I kinda wish wildfire and combustion worked together better

[strong gulch]

1 less instance can be the difference between being able to play a game and not being able to

[vague musk]

I'm already a smite psyker, so I don't need more hoard damage, but i still think it should be a bit better

[strong gulch]

Also variation in pattern, how often something is clicked, how long, etc all play a role

[vague musk]

also, do they stack? ie i kill a gunner that has 10 stacks next to a rager, will they get 7 stacks? 4 from wildfire, 3 from combustion

[fluid knot]

🤷‍♂️ Its not commonplace for accessibility options to have an option to make semi-auto weapons full auto

[strong gulch]

Doesn't mean it shouldn't be.

[strong gulch]

Wildfire can only go up to 4 SB stacks. PC can go up to the global 31 SB stacks. Ideally those 4 from wildfire would apply first, them PC on top. That would be 7.

Otherwise 1 instance of PC then wildfire would be 4 SB stacks. PC would have to go off again to take it over 4.

[fluid knot]

I would not be the slightest bit mad if they removed Perilous and gave us back Wrack'n'Ruin as a Brainburst sub-node

As it is Perilous is kinda fuckin broken

[vague musk]

oh wait so wildfire will add to an target up to the target has 4 stacks of fire overall?

[strong gulch]

No more than 4, yes.

[vague musk]

damn, guess im getting rid of it then

[pale prairie]

It’s not worthless just not OP

[vague musk]

i just feel like it wouldnt do much

[fluid knot]

If Purgatus didnt have infinite cleave then Wildfire would be a lot more valuable for pre-cooking the next group of enemies pushing towards you, but alas

[strong gulch]

It's good in its relevent builds and helps with range and precooking for some builds. Since KF can proc of SB DoTs now, wildfire + KF + PC can help snowball SB stacks.

BUT a build won't be made unsuable by dropping wildfire.

[woeful sigil]

how cool would it be if brain burst automatically proc'd kinetic flayer when you get an empowered psionics charge

[pale prairie]

I like it cause in combination with perilous combustion and venting shriek I can get a blaze going that almost continues on itself. Add in BB KF which can proc on wildfire stacks then it can start all over again. It’s not crazy damage but every bit helps

Also that blaze can spread and kill or at least damage elites I can’t even see yet if enemies are dense enough. But yeah people are divided on how good it is

[jovial juniper]

Here's a chance of proccing flayer instead

[strong gulch]

Sniper vent purge and snipers just keep randomly dying.

Haven't even seen them yet.

Just chilling in the back rooms.

dead

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/captainamerica-chrisevans-avengers-thanks-thankyou-gif-14200824967700137946

[strong gulch]

pure skil

skill

[pale prairie]

Also only good sniper is a dead sniper. Until we get a sniper lasgun which will be an absolute meme

[pale prairie]

Karrienesque

[strong gulch]

I read lasagna.

[pale prairie]

Mmmmmm lasagna

https://tenor.com/view/lasagna-pastas-baking-cooking-italian-pasta-gif-13243462

God that is such a high res gif of fucking lasagna

[strong gulch]

cheesy gooey gun

[ripe obsidian]

Lasagna Sniper.

[prime elk]

Purgatus should really be forced to interact with cdd

[ripe obsidian]

The sniper is Garfield

[ripe obsidian]

CDD?

[prime elk]

Cleave damage distribution

Flamer too for that matter

And it should impact how quickly DOTs stack

Doubt it’ll ever happen though

[strong gulch]

when do we get to put fire on floor?

[hearty wolf]

Soon

Checking with fren when he playing

will play now for a few hour if so

[strong gulch]

I likely can't play. I am not well and am getting worse.

I can spectate.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pjj-gif-18346713

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1162145458114801725

Anyone come I guess

Idk if PC is gonna be able to handle streaming

@havoc

[strong gulch]

I will watch. Partner is napping, so I will be no mic for now.

@hearty wolf ok so far

uhhhh

[lavish relic]

Hey uhh whats the best blitz for melee psyker?

[strong gulch]

assail

[lavish relic]

Why?

[jovial juniper]

Assail

[strong gulch]

Works with SG and DD well plus true aim crits well, helps with ammo economy, swap between melee and assail for MM and faster clearing, and has interruption and stagger.

[lavish relic]

wut do those acronyms mean TT

[strong gulch]

swap between gun and assail for MM as well

[strong gulch]

Abbreviations in the pins.

[lavish relic]

oh ok thx

[pale prairie]

Interesting the elusive crit damage perk

Oh hey cloud radius dump

[radiant frigate]

POWERFUL

[upper sun]

@marble crater @wind wind i hate german locks so much its unreal
i dropped my keys and now they wont go into the lock, the tolerances are so fucking low 1/8th of a mm bend is causing my key to get stuck

[pale prairie]

so powerful. I dare not ever use it

[radiant frigate]

precision german engineering

[marble crater]

Have you considered not dropping your keys?

[upper sun]

american engineering will save me

[pale prairie]

Oh do tell

[upper sun]

thank you america for adding a diamond file to my leatherman

[marble crater]

You will shoot your lock?

[pale prairie]

LMAO

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/leatherman-travailler-word-hard-work-fix-gif-16971608

[strong gulch]

I was gonna say file it lmao

But shooting the lock? Why didn't I think of that?

[marble crater]

I forgot I made a meme smite build yesterday and started the event with it... I was so confused when I wanted to BB a sniper and nothing happened and then I realized I was playing smite and not even with warp charges. I hate my life...

[upper sun]

🚬 you should grind arby penances instead

[marble crater]

I only need games, rest is finished

[upper sun]

damn........

[strong gulch]

just like zealot penances

leave something at 39/40 for 2 years

[marble crater]

God I hate smite so much

[pale prairie]

where can i check event progress?

NVM

[marble crater]

Smite build deleted...

[marble crater]

Smh

[pale prairie]

look I never obsessed about the events

just need 4 missions anyway

[strong gulch]

4 farts away

[hard widget]

Easiest way to do cliffhanger ?

[pale prairie]

Smite drag near a ledge

[strong gulch]

Tips in the 3rd pin.

[hard widget]

I thought you use venting shriek?

Or is the smite mace windu push easier

[strong gulch]

Easiest is to get a private game and do a map that has spawns in the beginning.

[hard widget]

Is there a ledge on mortis trials I can do it on

[strong gulch]

I haven't done the revamped trials.

sp idk

*so

multiple map suggestions int he pins

[hard widget]

Okies

Also

For the warp battery penance, taking the warp battery subnode is not good right

[strong gulch]

correct

[round coyote]

I quite frankly have no idea how y’all survive without shield in havoc

Could I put shield on this theoretically or am I needing venting

The BB one

[radiant frigate]

surge without vent sounds agonizing

[round coyote]

Hm

I guess I could go purg

I just like surge more

I’m not super familiar with the class anymore so I’m still picking things up

[strong gulch]

EK very much needs shriek. Its strength is in how well of a catalyst it is at proccing talents and snowballing things.

VB and inferno easily switch to shield tho

[round coyote]

Okie dokie

Also I hate to be the bearer of bad news but…. I don’t know if I like fgs 🥸

[round coyote]

Would you mind showing me how to swap that shriek purg build for shield?

Does anything else change?

[strong gulch]

Fair. YOu might get a better taste of FGS on right side builds. Stave tend to prefer melee with more mobility.

[round coyote]

Yeah I’m thinking more like dueling sword or knife. I never used dueling sword tho

[strong gulch]

It's taking all of the shriek nodes and moving them over to bubble (including sanctuary).

[hearty wolf]

@buoyant maple hi

Rashad horde clear is light spam with occasional PA if there's ragers and such, yes?

I did okay using it but I felt like the limited range hurt me a bit

[radiant frigate]

depends on build

[hearty wolf]

I failed to slide a lot to get proper distance too

[gray juniper]

No the melee weapons all have an in built pace to swings or stabs which slows down appropriate click rate. Guns benefit whole from fast press if not full auto

[strong gulch]

Depending on how well you manage peril, you may want to swap to ER on purg bubble.

[radiant frigate]

fgs is really kind of a flagship weapon that wants you to build around it

[hearty wolf]

I also struggled a bit more on carapace I think but unyielding was funny and it was much easier to duel monstrosities

[round coyote]

What’s ER and also what’s sanctuary

[radiant frigate]

if it's just supposed to serve as an anti armor sidearm type of role, then dueling sword is better

[round coyote]

Ohhhhh sanctuary is the dome guy

Still don’t know what ER is though

Oh empyric resolve?

Another question: I have 21 + 16x2, is that the proper setup for curios? If so, what perks should I be running?

[gray juniper]

This is why perilous combustion and wildfire seem small to you

[ripe obsidian]

Kill everything before it sees you. :D

[strong gulch]

Tree could look like this. You have less range with no shriek, so you have to be strategic with your bubble placement. EE helps you be more aggressive against shooters. You may still want OwtW for TDR, but TDR is often meh on psyker. Since you get toughness in bubble (from sanctuary) you could drop a toughness gen node. To take both OwtW and EE. UP to you tho. Try different combos to see what works for you.

[round coyote]

Oh shit thanks for setting this up for me. I’ll read it rn

[strong gulch]

ER might seem bad, but you get enough thoughness gen for it to not matter if you are doing a thing.

[round coyote]

@strong gulch any suggestions for this Q?

Also, how does Psyker want their knife?

[ripe obsidian]

Depending on curios, +15 toughness > OwtW

[median furnace]

Ascension Riser map, first bridge you come to has a smaller gantry on the left hand side, when the horde spawns let them come to you and use a force sword push attack. Still counts even if it's not venting shriek, if you want to gurantee success do venting shriek at the same time to maximise how many you push off in rapid succession.

[hard widget]

Ok

Ty

[ripe obsidian]

x3 gunner resist, x3 CDR/health, x3 toughness is the usual recommendation.

If you are using 2x toughness curios, then +15 toughness is better than OwtW, at least at H40. Not sure about lower. You need 80% or higher peril to (slightly) exceed the effective toughness of +15

[gray juniper]

By doing what vet, arbites, ogryn and zealot are supposed to do

https://tenor.com/view/insane-crazy-insane-emoji-crazy-emoji-emoji-gif-26468369

[strong gulch]

Honestly, curios are largely personal pref. They help but are not as impactful as people want them to be.

The general rec for meals and lower difficulty is 201 hp with x1 sniper resist. This lets you tank a sniper and multiple bursters without being dead deaded. How you get there is up to you.

BUT popular setups include x2 toughness and x1 HP or +3 stam (make sure stam is 410 or higher or it's not actually +3 in a live game).

Substats are commonly hp, toughness, and CDR because they are always helping you vs situational or only sometimes scenarios. Things like x3 gunner resist can be helpful but lose value as you learn better positioning, use cover, slide up to ranged, etc but may become relevant again as you go into high havocs.

Basically whatever your pref, supports your playstyle, or current ability is the curio for you.

Except woulds, don't do that. It's an active nerf with now cleansing auras and hp stims work.

[hard widget]

What blessings and perks on ds4

[round coyote]

Thanks goat 🐐

[round coyote]

Thank you too

[patent igloo]

About to get back into darktide after two years, can psyker still cast infinite lightning like before with tokens?

[strong gulch]

Manic + unyielding uncanny + pref

[hard widget]

Ok ty

[round coyote]

What blessings and perks for knife? Mk6

[hard widget]

Is it maniac and unyielding on all classes for ds4

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, but everyone will dislike you. Smite is not popular among the general playerbase

[patent igloo]

Is it bad now? I remember having a lot of fun with it lmao

[ripe obsidian]

It's too good is the problem.

It turns off the game for everyone else.

[strong gulch]

If you mean smite blitz, yes that's still a thing. Not actually forever tho, but a long time. Bonus, it doesn't completely destroy frames now.

[patent igloo]

Oh snap, I see

[strong gulch]

Smite can be a very strong tool. However...

Smite is often misused and has a big impact on other player's experiences. If it's used to perma stun enemies so people don't get to play and those enemies are CCed in a bad position or spread out or if you are slowing the team down by lagging behind just stunning stuff, people will leave the game, barrel you, not res you, etc. The CC also doesn't allow "on dodge" blessings and talents to function for you or your teammates. Parry is also out.

Because of the way Smite ticks and spreads, it's very good at getting the last bit of damage of an enemy's health even if other players did most of the damage. It also is an enabler for the rest of the psyker's kit and snowballs A LOT. So the way it scales in high density with little effort is absurd.

A lot of smite users also don't learn how to dodge or manage CC immune enemies.

A culture of lobby or mission dodging smykers has formed because of this.

[patent igloo]

Oh, thanks for the info. What are some respectable psyker builds then?

[strong gulch]

Depends on what you're using it for.

Mobility stick to help with staff or main weapon for right side builds

[paper oriole]

Does havoc toughness reduction affect it?

[strong gulch]

Staff builds in the pins

[patent igloo]

ty

Is assail still OP?

[round coyote]

I suppose mobility stick?

[strong gulch]

Not as OP as it used to be but still very good.

[patent igloo]

[ripe obsidian]

Havoc toughness reduction applies before curios, and it is a flat -45. So curios do apply bonuses to flat nodes.

With the +49% curios I use, a +15 node becomes ~22.5

[strong gulch]

Unyielding + maniac with uncanny and a bleeding blessing

lacerate offers consistency and flesh tearer is gambling

[gray juniper]

I only have one good toughness curio but this gives me an idea

[ripe obsidian]

And since OwtW is scaling TDR, it only becomes better than +22.5 at... I think 80% peril. Using my usual 90 toughness, 60% peril = +21ish effective toughness, 80% peril is +25ish, and 100% is +30.

The effectiveness changes depending on your toughness before picking the node

For reference, it should be a 4.6% increase in TDR per 20% peril, with 10% at 0.

10, 14.6, 19.2, 23.8, 28.4, 33

[paper oriole]

I think we need options with a covered tail also

[pale prairie]

https://preview.redd.it/cursed-centaurs-v0-r799483vtalb1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=54138fbd2a341cbb9908a6fccd34d2c8bde62a2a

[gray juniper]

Isn’t there someone you forgot to ask?

[long wharf]

option on the left is the only one that makes anatomical sense

[fiery stratus]

The second one you just make the waistband elastic so it stays on

[trail panther]

I have the best luck with weapons but the worst with curios 😭

I keep getting 1 wounds or something stupid like that

[hard widget]

Cliffhanger done phew

[fiery stratus]

Best bet is to keep an eye on brunt and melks shops, I had 15% toughness curios for a long time

[paper oriole]

I think he just asked Tzeenth

[fiery stratus]

You can try spam buying curios but ive never been too lucky

Also costs lots of melk tokens

[trail panther]

I mean, what I have now is fine, but it's not the best possible and it lowkey irks me

[pale prairie]

I got 16s on my new character but stuck otherwise hahah

[pale prairie]

Now you see one of the motivations to keep grinding

[fiery stratus]

Took me like 2 years to get 17% toughness on all of my characters

Other than arbitrator, I think it has 16s

2-3% isn't really noticeable anyway, usually

[trail panther]

yeah but that 1% increase tho

will save my life trust

[fiery stratus]

Eh kinda, It could actually if toughness was actually a shield instead of only being damage reduction beyond the first hit

[paper oriole]

This is the way to go crazy

Like a company executive

[fiery stratus]

If this bothers you, pre-crafting rework would've driven you insane

[pale prairie]

Yeah but I can’t fire Melk for giving me shit curios

[pale prairie]

“ whelp guess this staff I spent 400,000 dockets and 10000 plasteel/diamantine is just trash now”

[paper oriole]

You can snort coke and just keeping on playing to grind more ordos 😎

[pale prairie]

Germany must be such an interesting place to work

[paper oriole]

I work corporate but not in Germany 🫣

[late sapphire]

i have ended up at 1hp before

[pale prairie]

Lmao my mistake

[paper oriole]

Np 🙂

But I think busy people doing hard stuff to keeping working longer/more effectively worldwide phenomenon

[gray juniper]

The 1% HP hold out game is serious. Do not downplay our valiant warriors fighting it out as the light fades

[late sapphire]

All of the corpos i know snort coke and then schedule another 13 meetings

[paper oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/beat-chest-bro-max-greenfield-new-girl-schmidt-gif-3335373993833246962

[pale prairie]

Coke is a rich man’s stimulant I just coffee

[paper oriole]

Coffee has better price to effect ratio

Optimal choice

[gray juniper]

But the poors can’t afford coke

[buoyant maple]

L1 L2 L3 sprint cancel
Push attack can stagger rager (up to 3 Dreg ragers)

Sprint cancel gets u into L1 faster compared to chaining from L3

It’s one of the very few weapons to use sprint cancel in combo

[paper oriole]

Poor people make more stuff anyway 🤷‍♂️

[gray juniper]

Poor people snort coke too but the rich man needs cope for his vacuity

[late sapphire]

Poors will never snort coke the same way though

[gray juniper]

with arrogance

[late sapphire]

The 'quick line between lectures' grindset is something unique to the upper class

[gray juniper]

It also explains everything wrong with the world

[paper oriole]

Most teenagers can’t just afford it

We need to equalise the classes

[pale prairie]

What is that using only a fresh $100 bill to snort?

[hard widget]

Is bb and scriers gaze a thing

[late sapphire]

No

[pale prairie]

You can certainly try

[hard widget]

Is bb and shield a thing

[late sapphire]

They have their own

Never seen a bougie grow his own shrooms

[hard widget]

I only ask because I'm done with shriek penances rn but not bb ones

So maybe I'll do shield and bb

[late sapphire]

bb and shield is fine

[pale prairie]

If you want to get it done faster go EP

[hard widget]

I was warp charge with shriek and bb

Now ig I'll do shield ep and bb

[pale prairie]

Welcome to why penance grinding can suck haha

[hard widget]

Ikr

[pale prairie]

Someone was just complaining about finally finishing all the smite penances I think

[hard widget]

With ep I want overpowering souls and charged up subnodes?

[spice oar]

The smite penances are easy it’s the Damm Malleus Monsatratum one

[edgy smelt]

im still waiting for mallius monstronum to be made completable in pubs...

[spice oar]

The one that gives you a charge on elite kill and the one that gives you 3 of them

[pale prairie]

They are easy but BORING

[hard widget]

Yeah correct

[spice oar]

You’ll get them naturally tho

Private game penances tho 😔

[pale prairie]

Some do but not everyone goes smite early game

[spice oar]

Do havoc missions or mini-monstrosities count for that one penance btw?

[verbal thistle]

which penance?

[edgy smelt]

Malleus monstronum i believe, and i have no idea

[hearty wolf]

We winner

winner winner chicken dinner

[strong gulch]

I'm gonna do chicken nuggies for dinner.

[tulip kettle]

aww hell yeah

[hearty wolf]

Thank, it went well. My current struggle is hitting heavy 1 strikedowns on weakpoint.

I'm getting 53~% weakspot hits but it could be a lot higher. I just seem to miss the strike downs and I don't get why. I think I maybe need to adjust for the fact one is down left and the other is down right

It's actually so significant

[buoyant maple]

don't count weakspot and crit rate too much in scoreboard or powerDI because theyr'e very misleading

[hearty wolf]

Ah, alrightie

[buoyant maple]

they track weakspot hits vs total hits

as in

if u swing once

it hits 1 enemy in weakspot but every other enemy it hits is not in weakspot (let's say 5 more)

that's 1 weakspot hit vs 6 hits

[hearty wolf]

Yuh I figured, I have been trying to aim higher to hit as many as possible though for max benefit

[buoyant maple]

which is 16.67% weakspot rate

[strong gulch]

Me tanking my weakspot hit numbers.

[buoyant maple]

so it heavily favors horizontal perfect swings

and even then it's not a great number for study

[hearty wolf]

I forgot the actual scenario I'm complaining about with the heavies. There's just times I wanted to headshot things and then it moves slightly to the side and I hit a shoulder or something

I think it was a Chaos Spawn

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/ivan-drago-rocky-mad-boxing-gif-12740361343431073274

[buoyant maple]

because diff enemies have diff heights
trying to weakspot hit a flamer in the middle of a horde means not hitting poxwalkers as much, if u have a perfect horizontal swing

it just is what it is

[strong gulch]

Just gotta make sure. 🥺

[buoyant maple]

vs unyielding/carapace, rashad heavy atk has very high crit mod

[hearty wolf]

It's also just finesse in general isn't it?

[buoyant maple]

no

[hearty wolf]

o

[buoyant maple]

rashad only has particularly high dC and dCW vs unyielding and carapace

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-it-is-eet-eet-iz-iz-gif-17896182

[hearty wolf]

Interesting... Maybe I run that crit node on EO then

My build is super tight on points so would need to take a look at what can go

[ornate hamlet]

this is a most cursed videogame

[strong gulch]

Sounds like the perfect hyperfixation to help you roll around in bed.

[buoyant maple]

depends

EO doesn't work proper rn

[hearty wolf]

I kind of hate the dog build because you lose out on SO much attack speed, or at least mine does

[hearty wolf]

It's only the main part of the keystone apparently, everything else works as intended

[buoyant maple]

I take EO for 30% monster
and I also take 20% monster in middle

to obliterate monsters

[hearty wolf]

Yeah that's what I do

The only thing I do which is weird in the middle is I go street smarts rather than target priority I think it's called

[buoyant maple]

u kinda need street smarts to get to 20% ogryn/monster dmg if u want to spend less points

[hearty wolf]

Ye that's part of the reason. I also just really like the node

Extra dodges so comfy for when another overhead is led into me

[gray juniper]

Clearly the giga build for Arbys is lone wolf with either EO or forceful. There is no other option

[hearty wolf]

If only I didn't accidentally reload my mods

I need to rebind that

[buoyant maple]

it's nice to compensate for arb's innately low dodge distance

[pale prairie]

It’s fucking dead. NO MORE RAGER…

Holy true level beans! Also morrowsbathwater? Awesome name.

[buoyant maple]

I've been enjoying crusher more on arb tho

over any other melee

[jovial juniper]

Get taxed lmao

[gray juniper]

Lmao ofc you show up

[jovial juniper]

And off I go

See ya

Lol

[gray juniper]

Look yall. My dad bought a swatting toy for my cat that’s basically a pikachu

[gray juniper]

God speed knockoff Batman 🫡

[hearty wolf]

I think I didn't like it because the PA stam made it so I had to be pretty careful about being guard broken. And hitting weakspoints was tricky/ couldn't see other dangerous things since I was aiming into the sky against crushers

Definitely looking to expand tho

[pale prairie]

Good for cat sad for Pokémon

[gray juniper]

Whoever mentioned that the maul special takes down the boss shield fast; thank you

[buoyant maple]

special + L1
light staggers crusher
then push atk + L2 loop

[proper osprey]

Tax? Tac axe? Ok I’ll use melee psyker with tac axe

[buoyant maple]

kills basically everything super fast

plus skullcrusher being team utility

[hearty wolf]

O I see

I try this special +L1 for stagger

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/your-words-not-mine-bernie-the-family-business-i-didnt-say-it-you-said-it-gif-26036807

[tulip kettle]

GO TO BED

GO

TO

BED

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1025525686494035998/1398806968969461944/image0.gif

But it’s the safest weapon in the game-

[gray juniper]

Electric rodent can take it

[hearty wolf]

I'm on the toilet 😭

[strong gulch]

sleep on toilet

theory craft on toilet

poop joke

[thorn cedar]

Always. Be. DarkTiding.

whipped out my old gunker build after way too much time on arby

yea im paper mache but im paper mache with two machine guns

a pub who said i fight "like a hummingbird" still lives rent free in my head every time i play it

im still pretty peeved about them buffing BCoB tbh

[fluid knot]

Bit late to this particular party, but Purgatus kinda does the same thing in all fairness. IE: switches off the game for a lot of parties. Infinite cleave and density scaling being what they are.
Sure, it doesn't stop talents from functioning in quite the same manner, but its still pretty "turn brain off and let DoT kill stuff your team are fighting"

[thorn cedar]

Cept Purg is actually doing consequential scaling damage and you do have to point it at the right targets if you want to stun.

[fluid knot]

Yeah, its a bit more involved, but the end result is much the same

[thorn cedar]

Case in point, nobody is asking for Smykers in Havoc, even the ones who think Smite kicks ass.

[fluid knot]

Hey I'm just pointing out the similarity, infinite cleave is a problem, same for Flamer and Rumbler

Plasma and Trauma to a lesser degree, but they're more focused rather than "fuck everything in that general direction"

[strong gulch]

In some ways yes. It's why I don't rec smite with purg.

But yeah purg is doing more damage but also doesn't stop a crusher or bulwark blob from doing things. Purg can stay more mobile too.

What is worse about purg is visibility.

[fluid knot]

Yeah thats not great either

[thorn cedar]

Remember launch Smite visibility, lmao

[edgy smelt]

My poor gpu

[fluid knot]

Unfortunately

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/confetti-celebrate-colorful-celebration-gif-15816997

When even one stray bullet finally intersects

[strong gulch]

I swear some PC actually caught on fire.

[thorn cedar]

I know I hit as little as three frames per second at times.

[strong gulch]

Oggy spam nades dream of launch smite frame drops.

[strong gulch]

I forget which chat I saw it in, but I can unread it.

Surge (EK) is the most ethical staff when it comes to impacting other players.

[fluid knot]

I mean, its incapable of being obnoxious, but its also incapable of doing (consistent) significant damage

[thorn cedar]

its funny too cause they reworked EK for stepping on Smite's toes, and even back then we were telling people to please, for the love of fucking god, stop using Surge to kill one poxwalker and tickle five others instead of doing ANYTHING ELSE

[fluid knot]

Trauma kinda hinges on the player, it can be horrendous to be in a lobby with, but it can also be a glorious addition, 50/50

Voidstrike is pretty chill also

Kinda on par with Surge

[strong gulch]

It literally does random damage. Like outside of crits. 😭

[fluid knot]

Even those are random D:

Sometimes you might get 2k+, other times like 1400

Illogical weapon

[strong gulch]

Gambling

[fluid knot]

Literally lmao

[thorn cedar]

its 50/50, either you do the max damage or you dont

[fluid knot]

90% of the time, you wont. Because RNGesus is a fuck

[thorn cedar]

no its 50/50

[strong gulch]

It no longer always stopping mutants. Far away.

[fluid knot]

You can still roll the bad side of the split repeatedly, thats how RNG works lol

Doesnt matter if its 90/10 or 50/50

[thorn cedar]

nuuh its 5050

either you do or u dont

simple maffs

[fluid knot]

Ogryn brained

[strong gulch]

There's so many times I verbally say, "I hope I win the 50/50." in this game. Crits, sniper direction, mutant throws. lol

[fluid knot]

Hey at least Mutants no longer yeet you into the void (much)

[edgy smelt]

i miss those times

[thorn cedar]

i miss when nurgle blessed muties would catch you and pound you until you fucken died

[fluid knot]

It was pretty hilarious, but many a clutch were ruined by a mutant deciding you're going to the lower-lower hive

[ripe obsidian]

Lost a duo fart carapace because a Chaos Spawn threw me into the void. >:(

[fluid knot]

Oof

Not had the problem with spawn before, thats pretty unlucky

[edgy smelt]

back down where you belong reject

[ripe obsidian]

I think it had to do with changed map geometry or something. It was the foundry map they changed recently, the one with the showers just before the mid event

[fluid knot]

That would make sense, idk if they have to update enemy behaviours in regards to the new geometry or if its just nav-meshing, but it certainly seems plausible

[strong gulch]

Remember when their AI was tweaked so they counldn't even catch players?

I remember just standing still and watching one run into the same wall.

I just walked away. Confident in my decision that it was harmless.

I was right lmao

[deft stump]

Out of the map? CS did it on Excise vault.

[thorn cedar]

oh yea i remember that

they were like declawed cats

was very sad

[strong gulch]

I think about those muties too much tbh.

[ripe obsidian]

Off a ledge and into the endless abyss

[deft stump]

I got out of the map, left on a small walkable area till I suicided.

[ripe obsidian]

New cat toy

[trail scroll]

Cuuuute

[paper oriole]

Almost like a barrel explosion - it is learning

[trail scroll]

I like your little voidling, Six

[deft stump]

Is nawt new Costco or equiv box. Meh.

[trail scroll]

Also didn't see there is two cats there

Thought the other was just a shadow

[ripe obsidian]

About 5 seconds after this, the void hissed and smacked the other

She says it is her fortress

[trail scroll]

WHEEZE

"Mine, out" swat

[ripe obsidian]

Another angle

[potent echo]

I sometimes make a cave with blankets and my cat1 really loves it

[ripe obsidian]

That's why I got this toy. It's more rigid, so the cave doesn't collapse

[potent echo]

Feels like some part of their desert cat ancestry makes them want to explore caves or sit in holes

[ripe obsidian]

They burrow and lurk. Sneaky beasts

[west jay]

Is the Charged Strike affected by rending

[wind wind]

Sounds like a skillissue to me.🥰

Have you considered not dropping your Keys next time?

[ripe obsidian]

All damage should be. But I do not know Charged Strike's ADMs to know if it's meaningful

[gray juniper]

Imagine engineering and craftsmanship so superior that it doesn’t even forgive mistakes

[bright summit]

idk you can do some insane damage with it but the real downside is it has very little utility compare to purge and trauma in terms of blessing and m2

[pale prairie]

doesn't that indicate flawed engineering if it doesn't account for the flawed humans that use it?

[gray juniper]

ERM. Should’ve been superior then

Every facet of your life isn’t streamlined, ruthlessly organized and regimented? Fail

[pale prairie]

I design cars only to be looked at never to be driven. Come admire their clean lines and perfect engineering

Also they will burn a crazy amount of oil

[gray juniper]

German smart cars probably measure the gap distance parking from the curb

[gray juniper]

It’s all those gadgets, gears and wizzbangs inside they simply couldn’t do without!

[thorn cedar]

"I hate German lock" mfers change their tone real quick when they see the majority of north american deadbolt designs getting defeated in 10 seconds or less with a single flathead screwdriver and a hairpin

[gray juniper]

My dad was a lock smith. This is accurate

[ripe obsidian]

Hm.

The director is mad at me.

Within 2 minutes of the game starting, 3 non-weakened bosses

We had just entered the first room

[dull scroll]

farm them all with skullcrusher

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-19410756

[strong gulch]

Rip. Are you still doing event? Or is this havoc?

[ripe obsidian]

Havoc

[strong gulch]

gotcha

[ripe obsidian]

It was red/purple, too

We did not win.

[strong gulch]

red purple is still in the rotation

boo

[pale prairie]

Lockpicking Lawyer

[ripe obsidian]

I retried the map like 4 times. Every single time, 3 bosses spawned in the first room

What a game

[strong gulch]

smelter?

[ripe obsidian]

Relay Station

The room between the door you open and the stairs leading down

I see a fascinating build on an H40 psyker

[strong gulch]

purg?

ek?

[ripe obsidian]

The staff is Inferno Run n' Gun/Nexus

[strong gulch]

Hold W

[ripe obsidian]

Which Youtuber is pushing Empyric Shock on inferno?

I need to know

[strong gulch]

I was wondering the same thing

[rancid jasper]

is warp splitting good on bgs, or does it already have enough cleave that it doesnt make much difference

[strong gulch]

Is good

plus you're usually taking assail which also benefits

[potent echo]

Did y'all win

[ripe obsidian]

I did not join this game

This build, it scares me

Guy is still living in a quell-cancel world

[pale prairie]

lmao

the good old days

[strong gulch]

Maybe they're QQ and cracked

[edgy smelt]

if you switched dd to warp syphon 6 stack you can just perma cast as long as you keep getting 6 stacks, scryers cd goes to abou 9 seconds and the linger period is 10 seconds

[ripe obsidian]

Is not my build

[pale prairie]

Man six thats a really cool build you shared. You should name it

[ripe obsidian]

My Inferno+SG build does use Warp Siphon

[ripe obsidian]

I name it Seven.

Because I am afraid of it.

[pale prairie]

I almost want to see a stream of this guy in action

[strong gulch]

I read sTeven at first

[pale prairie]

I want to know how it works

is it just....LMB the whole time?

[ripe obsidian]

Ostensibly

I am pretty sure that Empyric Shock only affects enemies you've hit, not your overall damage

lemme check

[pale prairie]

that was my understanding back when I did this EK build

[ripe obsidian]

Yep

[strong gulch]

Is a debuff so yee

[ripe obsidian]

"When hitting enemies with primary attacks (left-clicks) of any Force Staff, applies a debuff to enemies that increases the damage they take from warp attacks by 6%."

[pale prairie]

yeah you hit the guy a few times then RMB

thats why it needed QQ so bad

[ripe obsidian]

I'm waaaaaaay too lazy to QQ-cancel. Quell cancel was already hard

[pale prairie]

It felt sweaty like knife zealot

lots of extra clicking unless you macroed it and I refuse to macro

[strong gulch]

Remember walk forward cancel?? lol

[ripe obsidian]

I think that's still a thing for some reload cancels

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-old-jt-gif-1708377881870450486

[strong gulch]

also how not all staves could charge while sliding

[strong gulch]

but on EK RMB

[ripe obsidian]

Guy is still in the H40 queue. Go forth

Another H40 psyker is using a standard inferno build (with +crit chance), but has decided not to take Perfect Timing

[pale prairie]

thats sad

why not get all the crit if you gonna crit

[ripe obsidian]

Going by the buff uptime mod, I usually have 80-90% uptime on Perfect Timing through a mission

[pale prairie]

damn of course you do

the FLAMES

[ripe obsidian]

Also the 10 second uptime

It lasts so long

[pale prairie]

I wonder how many individual instances of damage that are valid for crits are in a pump of inferno

its gotta be high. then you multiply that by the infinite cleave hitting a million things

[ripe obsidian]

I will find out

[pale prairie]

Hah you don’t have to but go forth

[strong gulch]

as far as I know each dirct hit has a chance but I remember NullDragon saying that there was something that didn't let you be overly lucky or unlucky with crits

[pale prairie]

That makes sense cause it should be crazy high crit chance statistically with a huge stream like that with infinite cleave

Would completely nullify getting any extra crit beyond warp nexus

[strong gulch]

%5 crit chance perk does seem to help with EE uptime tho

it at least feels like it does

[ripe obsidian]

3

        fire_rate = {
            auto_fire_time = 0.25,
            fire_time = 0.1,
        },
        flamer_ramp_up_times = {
            {
                lerp_basic = 0.4,
                lerp_perfect = 0.2,
            },
            {
                lerp_basic = 0.4,
                lerp_perfect = 0.2,
            },
            {
                lerp_basic = 0.4,
                lerp_perfect = 0.2,
            },
            {
                lerp_basic = 0.5,
                lerp_perfect = 0.25,
            },
            {
                lerp_basic = 0.5,
                lerp_perfect = 0.25,
            },
            {
                lerp_basic = 0.5,
                lerp_perfect = 0.25,
            },
            {
                lerp_basic = 0.6,
                lerp_perfect = 0.3,
            },
        },
        critical_strike = {
            max_critical_shots = 3,
        },
    },```

Or so it claims

[rancid jasper]

why wouldnt it

[ripe obsidian]

But I just got 4 in testing, so I might need to look more

[pale prairie]

I totally agree

[strong gulch]

Beginning of shit I don't understand about crit chance checks. #psyker-class message

[ripe obsidian]

I spent enough time looking at crit chance math last night

[pale prairie]

Yeah I am saying you don’t have to dig I am just thinking out loud

It sounds like there’s a limit on how many total crits they can do in one pump or at least I am guessing that

[plucky flax]

Crunch number

Just play based on vibe.

[pale prairie]

The techs are inside you hero

[ripe obsidian]

I think that code might be saying 3 in a row maximum before it forces you not to crit

[pale prairie]

Yeah I see that but then you got 4 hahah

[ripe obsidian]

Wasn't in a row, had non-crits between

Just all in one pump

[pale prairie]

Interesting

[pale prairie]

What if each damage instance that leaves the staff can only crit a total of 3 times even as it cleaves through enemies?

[strong gulch]

IDK about wouldn't. There seems to be crit chance checks that can prevent you from being overly lucky or unlucky.

Regardless of the math. It's more a question of is that extra 5% crit chance impactful or not. There is diminishing returns.

[ripe obsidian]

    local auto_fire = self._is_auto_fire_weapon

    if not auto_fire then
        return
    end

    local critical_strike_component = self._critical_strike_component
    local weapon_handling_template = self._weapon_extension:weapon_handling_template() or EMPTY_TABLE
    local critical_strike = weapon_handling_template.critical_strike or EMPTY_TABLE
    local num_critical_shots = critical_strike_component.num_critical_shots
    local max_critical_shots = critical_strike.max_critical_shots or 1
    local auto_crits_left = num_critical_shots < max_critical_shots

    if not auto_crits_left then
        critical_strike_component.is_active = false
        critical_strike_component.num_critical_shots = 0
    end
end```

[strong gulch]

Yeah idk now guaranteed crits or crit strings work into.

[ripe obsidian]

        critical_strike_component.num_critical_shots = num_critical_shots + 1
    end```