#psyker-class

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hearty wolf
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It's my first souls like in like a decade 😭

vestal trench
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also good point beans

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sin (god gamer)

hearty wolf
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The characters are also really strong

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Like

dull scroll
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word of warning, if you are trying to climb havoc, go with the meta bubble inferno

vestal trench
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like i have to remember the context that you've 100%'d ror2

strong gulch
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Ye, meta havoc build take bubble for a reason.

hearty wolf
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Ironeye's dash almost has a whole second of iframes

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That's ABSURD

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Recluse has infinite FP on a magic caster

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You go brr

strong gulch
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But a lot of us preferred shirek in aurics and either grow tired of bubble or never really liked it. If you have a solid team and want freedom, shriek gives that.

vestal trench
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i did hear ironeye's indisputably the best char

hearty wolf
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Raider is invincible and has such good poise break, enemies can't move

vestal trench
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im interested in raider and the crucible knight lookin guy

hearty wolf
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It's like neck and neck though

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Executor is the crucible knight one and you can make him kind of funny

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You get relics which give you buffs like in a roguelite

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Since he has a katana, he naturally has bleed

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You can then get a relic with starting armament has poison

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Then get another one that has a frost bite weapon art

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And since he has an S in arcane, you just status obliterate everything

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Until you find a BBK

vestal trench
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o u cant change your enchant easy?

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like going from poison to occult

hearty wolf
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The relics are easy to come by

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The change on the ashes of war also don't change how the weapons scale

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And it also only changes your starting weapon, not anything you might pick up

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Sometimes you just want to upgrade your starter weapon and look for other weapon passives to help you

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Other times you look for something that's the bosses weakness since it does more damage but also mitigates boss mechanics

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Usually you get a free stagger every so often if you match the weakness but you also shut down some of their dangerous skills

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Anyway gamers when I get back

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I've set some rules

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You have to use everything off meta

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Everyone has to use ammo and a blitz that consumes grenade

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No yellow toughness

vestal trench
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LMAO what

hearty wolf
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The most OP node in any tree can't be used

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You also have to use sharp weapons

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Also can't use meta ultimate

strong gulch
hearty wolf
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Oh no

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You're going meleeker

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Good luck

vestal trench
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i think my only nonmeta's like

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vet double barrel

hearty wolf
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That sounds swag

vestal trench
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oh and meleeker ig

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i could do heavy sword zealot

hearty wolf
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I'm still 41m away from home supposedly :/

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Gonna get 0 eep

vestal trench
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F

tulip kettle
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@ripe obsidian i went to go play for a bit and stop looking at code. Thanks for coming back, i am now completely on board that all loner talent does is buff coherency toughness and provide some strings and the number 2 for UI purposes 🤦‍♂️

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imagine overriding the coherency toughness, and returning the number 2 for the ui, instead of buffing the units in coherency and returning its value 🙃

cedar pagoda
marble crater
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All I'm hearing is that loner is even worse than I thought loregryn

ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
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its just such a terrible thing to do in so many ways

buoyant maple
tulip kettle
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like, imagine just showing "2" on the HUD instead of the actual number in coherency

marble crater
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But loner is the best personality Sitgryn

tulip kettle
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its intentionally misleading and thats annoying, i wouldnt mind if they did any one of so many things to resolve it.

  • the description states "for toughness regeneration"
  • the HUD shows 1 instead of 2
  • it actually makes coherency +1
marble crater
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How about... they delete it from the game loregryn

tulip kettle
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i think it would be a legit talent

buoyant maple
tulip kettle
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if it could be used for the purpose of being the dedicated specials killer

buoyant maple
buoyant maple
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because having a single enemy in ur player character's slots disables coherency toughness regeneration

hearty wolf
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Just gotta push and run away from all enemies while staying in coherency

ornate hamlet
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Punishing player for being within melee range of an enemy chadgryn

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On the uh

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Traditionally melee class

hearty wolf
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Inb4 they give melee weapons durability

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You did too many hits this run? Your weapon breaks

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That's how they should have balanced DS4 and the knife

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You toothpick crusher? Now you have half a toothpick

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
ripe obsidian
jovial juniper
tulip kettle
buoyant maple
buoyant maple
tulip kettle
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you arent bringing it for coherency toughness, IF it made you always count as 2 coherency you would bring it so you dont trigger loner protection from the director

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thats what this whole discussion is about

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nobody cares about coherency toughness regen and for that purpose yes its garbage why take it

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but it DOESNT make you always count as in 2 coherency, which is what six was showing me in the code

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it makes your toughness coherency regen count as you being in coherency of at least 1 person, and returns a few strings and the number "2" for the ui

buoyant maple
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idk I still don't think it'd be that good

hard widget
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Is quick shards better or ethereal shards

tulip kettle
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i mean if you could just run 10m away to kill that dog, then that bomber, then that trapper, and not trigger 3 more spawning as currently happens

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it would make zealot with loner very good at being dedicated specials killer

buoyant maple
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I think game already frequently spawns up to specialist maximum in HiSTG and Havoc

tulip kettle
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....

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never mind 🙂

jovial juniper
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Because Warp Splitting is just a better ethereal

buoyant maple
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when specialist spawn allowance already is hitting cap idk if this 2-coherency prevention really means anything

tulip kettle
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again never mind

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it doesnt do it

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not worth discussing

hard widget
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Is there a psyker build guide, I'm new to psyker, I dunno which are those classic goated nodes

tulip kettle
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just check the pins for pretty meta builds

hearty wolf
tulip kettle
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theres a lot of synergies in psyker tree

hearty wolf
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Am home

tulip kettle
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so some talents are great when taken with complementary talents but pretty bad without

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ALSO

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this is just blatant arb bias, again

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because the dog is a unit in coherency for coherency purposes

long wharf
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and since I only played with friends/family, being able to say "someone give me lightning/holy" on demand was pretty fun

tulip kettle
buoyant maple
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in meat grinder it used to be bugged and always count 2 coherency

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but not in live game

fluid knot
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Just got compliments for playing with Boltpistol/Catachan Sword on Psyker, very nice ❤️

ripe obsidian
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Arby's left aura is Zealot's right and left auras combined, ha

buoyant maple
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again dog is perhaps the buggiest thing in this game yet

gray juniper
tulip kettle
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exactly

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it does not do that

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it pretends it does

gray juniper
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Loner truly sucks then

tulip kettle
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it even overrides your HUD UI to show "2"

hearty wolf
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One sec

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I'm trying to find my cat

tulip kettle
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but it doesnt actually make you be in 2 coherency

marble crater
gray juniper
tulip kettle
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unlike the dog, which does count as a unit for coherency if you take the talent

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you need the talent for it to count from what i can see

ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
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yeah theres a bit where it checks your talent buffs

buoyant maple
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if u do, ur dog becomes a coherency unit for u & everyone else

tulip kettle
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also

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the dog always has coherency 0

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interesting

ripe obsidian
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This is probably the most relevant code to this:

    self._in_coherence_units[coherency_unit] = coherency_extension

    local prev_num_units_in_coherency = self._num_units_in_coherence

    self._num_units_in_coherence = prev_num_units_in_coherency + 1
end```
buoyant maple
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maybe the hotfix (this week?) will break dog so hard u crash the game if >1 dog loads into a match

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who knows

tulip kettle
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yeah thats the code that actually increases units in coherency, for the player, for the dog being in coherency

fluid knot
buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
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It's really funny to me that the left Arby aura is a slightly worse version of Zealot's left aura as well as a notably better version of Zealot's right aura

buoyant maple
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aren't we supposed to get new cosmetics this thursday?

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when was last rotation

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last week or the week before

fluid knot
tulip kettle
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my friend immigrated to sweden

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idk why everyone doesnt move there tbh

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he worked for 2.5 years and has now been unemployed for nearly twice that long

fluid knot
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Finland for me if I can wrangle the money ngl

tulip kettle
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government still pays his salary

fluid knot
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Lucky bastard 😄

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Good on him tho

tulip kettle
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and he always says

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yeah wages are good and cost of living isnt too high

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but the TAXES are a lot, its like 40%!

hearty wolf
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I'm trying to find my cat

tulip kettle
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and im like - you dont pay taxes?

hearty wolf
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This is so weird

tulip kettle
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cat cant be found

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a mystery for the ages

hearty wolf
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The fuse box tripped and my cat can't be found

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And the kettle is emitting burning plastic sounds

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
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I opened a cat of Tina

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Can of tuna

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Still no cat

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I'm sniffing more of the plastic fumes

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Chat am I going to die

tulip kettle
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unplug kettle

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go to bed

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wake up sober

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deal in morning

hearty wolf
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It's almost 1am wtf 😭

gray juniper
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Call cats name loudly

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Idk it did work for me on most concerning moment

hearty wolf
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I did

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I even did pspsps

gray juniper
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Ofc

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Damn didn’t come to tuna can that’s rare

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Is there anywhere obvious it could hide?

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Is the yard fenced?

hearty wolf
tulip kettle
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in the airing cupboard

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behind the fridge

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in your knickers drawer

hearty wolf
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Not behind the fridge or in the oven

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Will try drawer

gray juniper
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I hate to say it but you may have misremembered and should check outside

tulip kettle
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yes sin

hearty wolf
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I've checked outside both times and she's not there

tulip kettle
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go roaming the streets in the dark looking for a cat

gray juniper
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I had a full memory lapse once from being sleepy and left the poor cat outside

gray juniper
tulip kettle
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i did

hearty wolf
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She's not even in the plant pot outside

tulip kettle
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if kitty is a 100% indoor cat its worrying, but if kitty likes to be outdoors shes not gonna suffer being out there a couple hours. IF she is even outside and not under your bed or in the dirty laundry

hearty wolf
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Ye she goes outdoors

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We wait for her re-emergence

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She's too good at hide and seek

gray juniper
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If you live in an urban area it’s not a concern

tulip kettle
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she will return the triumphant hunter

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half eaten mouse her trophy

hearty wolf
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I think she's probably gonna hunt me in my sleep for being gone for like 9 hours

gray juniper
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I know what you mean

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Most likely case is nothing too concerning. Rambunctious cat decides to venture or wacky cat gets afraid of the new sound and sits in place for 6 hours instead of moving

hearty wolf
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Oh well

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I eat sandwich

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It would be irresponsible to play a darktide game at this time but...

tulip kettle
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i should never have looked at this code

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did you know

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there are hundreds of buffs

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that are tagged as "unperceivable"

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also now i really want to know what

coherency = {
buff_template_name = "zealot_always_in_coherency_buff",
identifier = "zealot_aura",
priority = 2,

ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
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actually does because it is not the same as the player buff template special rule

ripe obsidian
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I think that's the priority of the buff bar

tulip kettle
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" keywords.unperceivable "

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sorry to drag you back to this six youve been so patient

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zealot_always_in_coherency = {
description = "loc_talent_zealot_always_in_coherency_description",
display_name = "loc_talent_zealot_always_in_coherency",
icon = "content/ui/textures/icons/talents/zealot_1/zealot_1_base_3",
name = "Aura: Always count as in at least 2 coherency",
format_values = {
coherency_min_stack = {
format_type = "number",
value = talent_settings_1.coherency.toughness_min_stack_override,
},
},
special_rule = {
identifier = "zealot_always_at_least_one_coherency",
special_rule_name = special_rules.zealot_always_at_least_one_coherency,
},
coherency = {
buff_template_name = "zealot_always_in_coherency_buff",
identifier = "zealot_aura",
priority = 2,
},
passive = {
buff_template_name = "zealot_backstab_kills_while_loner_aura_tracking_buff",
identifier = "zealot_backstab_kills_while_loner_aura_tracking_buff",
},
},

ripe obsidian
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The special rule is the actual buff/stats/gameplay change. I really think the coherency section is the buff bar, but I am not certain

tulip kettle
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so i now understand that "format values" is called for the UI to get info

ripe obsidian
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The passive, as you pointed out earlier, appears to be for penance tracking

tulip kettle
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and yeah special rule is the special rule that gets checked for the toughness coherency

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but this bit for the "coherency" function

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the fact it has priority makes me also think yes its to do with the buff bar

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i am not a game dev

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i need to give up

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sorry and thank you

ripe obsidian
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My two guesses are that it's priority of appearing on the buff bar, or priority of buff application

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I'm not a game dev either. I make wi-fi do wi-fi things.

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I see hud_priority and coherency_priority. Hmmm.

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Seems like all auras have a coherency_priority of 2

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This is probably it

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Seems to have to do with how the buffs are applied. I don't know exactly how that works if they're all priority 2. Must be other things in play

tulip kettle
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such a rabbit hole

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ability_cooldown_modifier = "additive_multiplier", but unrelated, confirmation that CDR on curios is additive without me needing to math it like before

ripe obsidian
weary idol
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eating precious real estate of your 10 visible buffs

tulip kettle
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also proof that anticipation is no longer bugged

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[stat_buffs.dodge_linger_time_modifier] = 0.5,

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am i stupid

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what talent gives you increased TDR if there are burning enemies nearby

gray juniper
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Anyone want to do an easy havoc 23? No rituals even

rancid jasper
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does anyone know a mod that can show stacks nearer to the center of the screen so i can see my true aim stacks etc without peering at the bottom corner?

tulip kettle
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soulblaze_reduces_damage_taken = {
toughness_damage_taken_multiplier = 0.67,

ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
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custom HUD and better buff bars

ripe obsidian
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Might be a Mortis thing or an unused talent

rancid jasper
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is it a specific setting or just download them

tulip kettle
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then, make a custom buff bar with better buffs that only has the buffs you want

tulip kettle
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then use custom HUD to move the buff bar where you want it

rancid jasper
tulip kettle
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i have thust, true aim, until death etc to appear next to crosshair

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other buffs appear in the normal bar

rancid jasper
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tysm

tulip kettle
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its just in talent settings

ripe obsidian
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Looks unused

tulip kettle
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so unused talent

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right

tulip kettle
# rancid jasper tysm

finding the buffs for use in better buff bar can be hard as they are called stupid stuff

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case in point, brainburst is called smite in the code, and smite is called chain lightning

tulip kettle
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yeah thats me for the past 6 hours my dude

rancid jasper
tulip kettle
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no i think they just are really, really bad at writing human readable code

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which is fine tbh its not for humans and ofc we dont have their comments for the decompiled code

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just makes all this stuff harder

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theres just so much stuff im finding now that makes me wonder wtf is going on with some stuff. It tracks if team mates saved you from being grabbed by mutants or not

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why does it do that? i dont know

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it has 2 different player states for when you get thrown by a mutant or chaos spawn

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NO MORE

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NO MORE LOOKING AT CODE

ripe obsidian
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Slay the code

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Kill it and bury it

late sapphire
vestal trench
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@hearty wolf not sure if u still went to go play but i fell asleep 💀

did read back tho, hope the cat is safe and returns!

woeful sigil
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I'm pissed, I made an assail build I thought ripped shit cause I could basically solo auric maelstorm, but it just falls apart in havoc

fluid knot
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Just had a cheater D:

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Infinite ammo, instant toughness regen, no clip.

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Literally no fucking shame

fluid knot
analog agate
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Lucky you. I have played with 2 cheaters in 2k hours. Very rare. And utterly pointless for them to cheat

fluid knot
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Worthless vs armoured units

fluid knot
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There arent many, but like jfc dude

jovial juniper
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I played with only 1

woeful sigil
analog agate
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What are soft ban pools

woeful sigil
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basically if you get a mod you get put in a lobby of players that are soft banned

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and most of them cheat and tryhard

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me and my buddies were trying to play a mod called lord of cinder + randomized items

analog agate
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Ahhhhhh. Similar to what cod did

woeful sigil
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in ds3

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thats when we saw how awful it is lmao

fluid knot
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Thankfully I dont fuck with souls games outside CEing in items in ER, but yeah, I know folks whove been in there

rancid jasper
woeful sigil
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one of the items in cinder's mod changes the roll animation to a dash animation, and I had a guy rage so hard that his attacks weren't hitting me that he kept invading with god mode turned on

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just following me to every zone

rancid jasper
fluid knot
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Hmmm... I do an experiment

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DD with Purgatus

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Actually kinda cracked if you spec for crits

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Double stack application constantly

ripe obsidian
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DD is crit damage, not crit chance

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Scrier's Gaze Inferno is the one for maxing crit chance. I think 70% crit chance if SG is up.

weary idol
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1 sec

ripe obsidian
topaz lichen
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WoW-ass mods

fluid knot
weary idol
ripe obsidian
fluid knot
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Purg' crits all the time and the DPS increase is actually quite noticeable

weary idol
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DD is not a small amount

ripe obsidian
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30% crit damage on top of, like, a 15 damage crit is not a lot of extra damage

weary idol
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oh for purgatus

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yeah don't bother

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purgatus crits are good because they apply multiple soulblaze stacks

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not because it does damage

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the 15% base damage tho

ripe obsidian
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I won't argue with DD for gunker or meleeker or voidstrike or whatever else

fluid knot
ripe obsidian
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Soulblaze does not crit

fluid knot
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The staff does tho

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The more DoTs put onto the target, the bigger the direct crit damage

ripe obsidian
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I'm not really understanding what you mean. The staff crits, yes. The staff has very low base damage. Even with fully stacked Blaze Away, Warp Rider, etc., the base damage won't be very high. A crit is like 20% additional damage. So +30% on +20% is going to be ~6% damage increase, or something like that. I am looking for the code that describes critical damage so I can confirm.

fluid knot
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So what is happening, is that the more DoTs are on the target, (the lesser amount on the right) the bigger the direct crit damage will be

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As displayed on the later one, much bigger number

ripe obsidian
fluid knot
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🤷‍♂️ Im noticing the DPS increase, also it benifits Assail for shooter removal

ripe obsidian
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You're just seeing the damage from Soulblaze tick at the same time as staff damage

strong gulch
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I'm going to bed. Guarded

fluid knot
weary idol
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at all

ripe obsidian
rancid jasper
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does souldrinker only trigger if the killing blow is a soulblaze tick or if the enemy had soulblaze when they died?

fluid knot
ripe obsidian
fluid knot
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Yet some of the crits are going well over 500 when buffed, but not on ticks on direct damage

ripe obsidian
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The critical hit part of Souldrinker does not refresh during its duration.

ripe obsidian
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I would imagine it has the same trigger, but I don't know for sure

fluid knot
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So either there is some goofy interaction going on with the DD perk or there is some other fuckery involved because at no point is a normal tick doing over 500

rancid jasper
ripe obsidian
fluid knot
ripe obsidian
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Then the healthbar isn't reporting correctly

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Either way, # of stacks has 0 impact on crits

fluid knot
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🤷‍♂️ Im still gunna take it into a mission an see if the average output is higher than normal

strong gulch
fluid knot
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TTK deffo feels faster

ripe obsidian
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As compared with what?

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I mean, DD is still +15% damage. So it's going to be faster.

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Also, DD doesn't actually work in the Psykhanium without a mod.

weary idol
ripe obsidian
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Also also, here's a string of crits on an enemy with 15 stacks. Had 15 stacks to start. If # of stacks matters, why are they all different?

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86, 157, 356, 411

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It's just the DPS report not knowing how to handle so many ticks of damage at a time, and it overlaps.

fluid knot
potent echo
fluid knot
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local is_target_burning = target_buff_extension and target_buff_extension:has_keyword(keywords.burning)
local damage_vs_burning_stat_buff = (is_target_burning and attacker_stat_buffs.damage_vs_burning or 1) - 1

damage_stat_buffs = damage_stat_buffs + damage_vs_burning_stat_buff

After a cursory look I can find this, idk how relevant it is tho, im no gamedev, but it would appear there is some sort of thing relating to burning (this is from the crit page of the code)

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Lines 298-301

ripe obsidian
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Burning and soulblaze have different names, I believe. I think it's 'warpfire' for soulblaze. It's why the burny archetype in Mortis doesn't actually work on Inferno/Shriek unless you get regular burn some other way

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But I will look at those lines

fluid knot
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There is nothing specifc to warpfire anywhere according to CTRL-F

ripe obsidian
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Ah, it looks like that's actually the code for the Mortis buff

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    description = "Deals 70% more damage against target on fire",
    gradient = "content/ui/textures/color_ramps/talent_ability",
    icon = "content/ui/textures/icons/buffs/hud/horde_buffs/small_buffs/hordes_buff_damage_vs_burning",
    title = "You burn, you die",```
hard widget
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are blaze away and warp nexus the best blessings for inferno staff

ripe obsidian
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Yes

hard widget
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hmm

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flak and unyielding?

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why unyielding

ripe obsidian
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To kill bosses and Ogryns faster

fluid knot
hard widget
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i thought you shouldnt be using inferno staff on bosses and ogryns

ripe obsidian
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Nah, that page is all the damage calculations

hard widget
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just use obscurus or something like bb

ripe obsidian
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BB on bosses is not very high DPS, in my experience. Maybe with an EP build, but I have never tried that

hard widget
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on obscurus im using slaughterer and uncanny strike , thats fine right

ripe obsidian
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Melee is probably going to do better, but it depends on your skill

hard widget
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cant decide between obscurus and deimos with inferno staff

fluid knot
ripe obsidian
fluid knot
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You do get infinite casts if there are enough elites tho, which is entertaining

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
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Obscurus does obscene armor damage

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And is actually pretty bad at hordes (in my experience)

pale prairie
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I just like Deimos

hard widget
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obscurus and deimos are both for single targets right

pale prairie
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the stab is nice

ripe obsidian
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Deimos is more defensive. Obscurus is more offensive

fluid knot
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Obscurus will be what everyone uses once DS gets nerfed

hard widget
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but obscurus can also handle hordes better than deimos ig

ripe obsidian
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@fluid knot Here's a quick comparison of fire versus soulblaze damage types:

if HEALTH_ALIVE[unit] then
            local damage_template = DamageProfileTemplates.burning


if HEALTH_ALIVE[unit] then
            local damage_template = DamageProfileTemplates.warpfire
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Just for reference

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
hard widget
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Im using obscurus with slaughterer , uncanny strike and carapace unyielding

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thats fine hopefully

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new to psyker

ripe obsidian
modest perch
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remember when obscurus was considered unusable

hard widget
#

i was gonna use deflector, but i think i dont need it for survivability rn

modest perch
#

how is it these days ?

ripe obsidian
#

Obscurus is good now. Got some buffs. Bullies elites.

modest perch
#

need to try it then

#

just love the big fuckin greatsword so much its hard to take off

hard widget
#

i have yet to try that

#

that and shock maul are the only weapons in the game ive never tried yet

fluid knot
#

I get there are a lot of DoTs going out an that could screw with the shown DPS, but the gap is simply too large

ripe obsidian
fluid knot
#

I need boss healthbar mod to check it on my end

#

Is numeric UI yeah?

ripe obsidian
#

Healthbars for this one

#

I only use it in the Psykhanium. Feels too cheaty in-game

fluid knot
#

Yeah I wouldnt use that ingame either

ripe obsidian
#

Every now and again I can catch the damage hopping up.

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Like, the marker will read "400" then immediately change to "850"

#

I don't know the tickrate of the DPS counter or the staff offhand. Soulblaze is every 0.75 seconds

plucky flax
ripe obsidian
#

My guess is that the ticker reports DPS every 0.5 seconds, so things overlap. But I would need to find hard answers to say for sure

#

Oh, found it.

#
                local add_numbers_together_timer = template.damage_number_type == damage_number_types.flashy and damage_number_settings.add_numbers_together_timer_flashy or damage_number_settings.add_numbers_together_timer

                if add_numbers_together_timer > t - latest_damage_number.start_time then
                    should_add = false
                end
            end```
hard widget
#

is ethereal shards better at killing elites

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I just need to do assail for the penance

ripe obsidian
#

I am pleased with this variable name. It is simple. "add_numbers_together_timer"

hard widget
#

where you gotta kill elites with assail

#

im assuming you use ep with assail for it

ripe obsidian
#

Are you familiar with how hitmass works?

hard widget
#

i prefer quick

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and warp splitting

ripe obsidian
#

That is the usual choice

hard widget
#

so ethereal doesnt like, help you kill elites faster does it

#

maybe it does

ripe obsidian
#

Not directly, no. It means you might, maybe, go through 1 additional elite

#

Depending on how the hitmass works out

hard widget
#

and im assuming I use ep

#

to increase that assail dmg

ripe obsidian
#

I usually use DD with Assail, but EP also works

hard widget
#

also when you use assail, does the right click increase the dmg

ripe obsidian
#

Yes, right-click is more damage and range at the cost of more peril

#

Something like 200 base damage versus 150

hard widget
#

does left click assail kill say

#

a gunner

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or do you need to right click for it to do that

ripe obsidian
#

I doubt either would 100 > 0 a gunner

hard widget
#

whats a good setup for gun psyker

#

mainly, which gun

#

i got em all

ripe obsidian
#

Recon lasgun is the popular choice

hard widget
#

ughhh

#

i already run that nonstop on vet

#

i remember when recon lasgun was an unused meme

#

im gonna use vraks

#

vraks is the new columnus iag right

ripe obsidian
#

I believe so, yes

fluid knot
#

Not even a crit, but again, big damage bump

oak echo
#

How2voidstrikestaff
Wouldn't a trauma staff provide better crowd control

ripe obsidian
#

add_numbers_together_timer

pale prairie
#

"So was it ever thus with the Fat Fish Code"

fluid knot
oak echo
#

That's an inferno staff and a trauma staff with their infinite cleave innit'

ripe obsidian
oak echo
#

The strike staff seems just like a contact grenade launcher with infinite ammo and no arc

#

But I imagine you can achieve better results with inferno/trauma

fluid knot
#

Good for beaming lines of shotgunners or ragers

ripe obsidian
oak echo
#

If only it was spam friendly

ripe obsidian
#

Voidstrike is good in Auric and below. Suffers a lot in Havoc.

fluid knot
hard widget
#

is warp expenditure not good or something

ripe obsidian
# fluid knot I'm gunna keep using it an see how the damage numbers play out over the course o...

I ran it through GPT, because my brain is becoming pudding.

How it works:

    Check for existing damage numbers:

local latest_damage_number = damage_numbers[#damage_numbers]

Check if the latest number is recent:

if latest_damage_number then
    local add_numbers_together_timer = ...

    if add_numbers_together_timer > t - latest_damage_number.start_time then
        should_add = false
    end
end

    If the time difference (t - latest_damage_number.start_time) is less than add_numbers_together_timer, then should_add becomes false.

If should_add is false, the code goes into the else branch:

latest_damage_number.value = math.clamp(latest_damage_number.value + damage_diff, 0, max_health)
latest_damage_number.time = 0
latest_damage_number.y_position = nil
latest_damage_number.start_time = t
...

    This adds the new damage to the existing number instead of creating a new damage number object.```
pale prairie
#

GPT is a yes man

ripe obsidian
#

I mean, yes.

fluid knot
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

1003 damage and 1098 damage

ripe obsidian
#

I use GPT for code reviews and CLI help. Having it lie to me would be counterproductive

#

It's not even very good at code reviews, tbh

pale prairie
#

I dunno man. its language learning not programming. Even the AI they use for coding spits out shitty stuff

hard widget
#

did they change kinetic flayer and its actually good now?

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
#

Its good at formatting I'll give it that

pale prairie
hard widget
#

kinetic flayer used to have a chance of killing any random enemy and it was kinda useless because it would just trigger and kill a random poxwalker and then go on cd for 15 seconds, did they change it so it actually affects only elites and specialists now?

ripe obsidian
#

The simpler the question, the more you can trust the output. Still check its work, but

hard widget
#

oh so its better?

#

in function

ripe obsidian
#

Significantly

hard widget
#

i guess i can take it now

ripe obsidian
#

Be careful of poxbursters

hard widget
#

LOL

#

right

visual phoenix
ripe obsidian
fluid knot
#

Fuckin weird game design

ripe obsidian
#

Sorry for getting heated earlier. It's been a rough week. I shouldn't take it out on you, or anyone, though.

#

Rough... 6 months, actually. But alas.

hard widget
#

anyone got tips for improving this build, its inferno staff

ripe obsidian
#

+CDR aura instead of elite damage, usually. I don't think the elite damage aura gives any noteworthy breakpoints. Or, none that I know of.

hard widget
#

kinetic presence Im using for the penance KEKW_ogryn

ripe obsidian
#

Fair

#

Wait, don't you need assail for the penance? I am confused

hard widget
#

theres a penance just for the aura

ripe obsidian
#

Ahhhh

hard widget
#

assail has a seperate penance where you gotta kill elites and specialists with assail

ripe obsidian
#

I usually prefer Warp Siphon on Inferno. Haven't used EP enough to know much about it

visual phoenix
hard widget
#

okay

fluid knot
#

Fuckin worth it on Surge though jfc

hard widget
#

and i dont need to be using inferno staff with this build ig, i can change it

ripe obsidian
hard widget
#

also puppet master is bad right

fluid knot
hard widget
#

do you take empyric resolve or penetration of the soul

#

or both

pale prairie
#

@ripe obsidian I Defy you and your luck after 6 straight losses I just pulled off a win

visual phoenix
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

For bubble inferno, I use Empyric Resolve

hard widget
#

and which subnodes on warp charge do i take

ripe obsidian
#

+damage and +charge on soulblaze kill

hard widget
#

they all seem good except essence harvest and vampire ig

ripe obsidian
#

6 charges or toughness on charge gain are preference, but I don't use them.

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

?

pale prairie
#

Instead of empiric

#

ER

ripe obsidian
#

There's a bad rending talent, not a cleave talent

pale prairie
#

Oh whoops

#

I meant the rending

ripe obsidian
#

+10% rending over 75% peril.

#

I use that for Shriek

hard widget
#

its very conditional yeah

visual phoenix
#

Even if it 10%, you still can go with like
60% wr infernus

#

That would work

pale prairie
#

Just curious on the logic because the inferno builds peril pretty slow already yeah?

ripe obsidian
#

Warpfire already has fantastic ADM on everything but carapace. Rending does basically nothing

#

2.5% damage increase

#

Or, that's what it's supposed to be

#

In practice, it feels like less

pale prairie
#

Yeah I agree it suck I just thought people avoided the toughness reduction on inferno

#

The ER downside

visual phoenix
pale prairie
#

You’re right I was thinking of all the vent builds

ripe obsidian
#

Inferno is pretty low peril, so using ER with Shriek can result in your peril being too low to consistently shriek

#

But with bubble, ER makes it easier for me to balance in the ~80% range

#

And bubble makes up for a lot of toughness gen lost

hard widget
#

il eventually use bubble as my main build

#

but im doing the penance stuff first

#

then I can just switch to bubble and leave it on

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

It shouldn't

visual phoenix
#

It affects all sources of toughness regen i belive

#

The coherency and all of your nodes

#

With bubble its usually not an issue, you still generates a fuck ton of it

pale prairie
#

I mean that makes sense to me but I thought I had read/heard that it doesn’t affect toughness from coherency. I don’t really care though because as you said it shouldn’t matter if there’s inferno stacks on everything and shield up

visual phoenix
#

You would probably have source of gold toughness in your team, it does matter that much

ripe obsidian
#

"power_level_settings.ninjafencer_finesse_boost_amount"

#

Ninja Fencer. I see.

pale prairie
#

Are they relics of VT2?

ripe obsidian
#

I'm not sure

#

I've never seen VT2 code

pale prairie
#

Ninja fencer makes me think of assassin rat

ripe obsidian
#

In case you were curious weapons that reference ninjafencer are:

  • Combat sword (Catachan, I guess)
  • Combat axe
  • Combat knife
visual phoenix
ripe obsidian
#

It's a weapon type

pale prairie
visual phoenix
#

Bruh

pale prairie
#

The dog mauling me in Darktide pales in comparison to the visceral stabbing of the ninja rat

pale prairie
#

DS???

ripe obsidian
#

Oh, combat sword might be the DS

#

Hm

#

wait, the combat_blade is ogryn's knife

#

ogryn_combatblade

pale prairie
#

Wow those are actually straightforward names

#

Lmao

ripe obsidian
#

I think DS is somewhere under combat_swords. There are 9 weapons listed in there.

#

So the combat_axe referenced is probably tac axes

pale prairie
#

Well that’s pretty dense

summer prairie
#

p1 is devil's claw, p2 heavy sword, p3 dueling sword

ripe obsidian
#

Syllogism to the rescue

#

Anyway, where I started was looking at crit damage calculations.

#

Which are complex.

pale prairie
#

I imagine. Doesn’t every weapon have a different amount of crit damage bonus?

ripe obsidian
#

Based on finesse, yeah. Or specific modifiers. Or enemy armor type (depending on the weapon used to hit them).

#

Etc.

pale prairie
#

Damn that’s a ton of interactions

ripe obsidian
#

Yeah

#
finesse_boost_amount = finesse_boost_amount + (boost_table and boost_table[armor_type] or PowerLevelSettings.default_finesse_boost_amount[armor_type])

finesse_boost_amount = Weakspot.finesse_boost_modifer(breed_or_nil, hit_zone_name, finesse_boost_amount)

finesse_boost_amount = finesse_boost_amount + crit_boost_amount

And so on.

#

The default crit boost is 50%, but then it's run through math stuff, so a crit is ???

fluid knot
#

Just parry fuckin everything

ripe obsidian
#

L1 crit on a Mauler torso with DSIV is a 650% damage increase, apparently. Same on a Crusher torso is a 900% damage increase.

Same with a Devil's Claw is a 60% increase on the mauler and an 800% increase on the crusher.

#

I need to go to bed.

#

This is a collision of me Wanting To Know and also not having a math or coding background to facilitate knowing.

oak echo
#

Deflector a good blessing on a blaze sword?

fluid knot
plucky flax
#

I use it. PeepoHappy

#

But me noob.

fluid knot
rancid jasper
oak echo
#

ngl I practically only ever use my melee to block

fluid knot
#

Catachan Sword + Kinetic Deflection my beloved

rancid jasper
fluid knot
#

Legit, just stand in rager blob and they all die 😄

rancid jasper
fluid knot
#

Sometimes you'll clip arms or torsos, but a lot of the time yeah its heads

rancid jasper
fluid knot
#

Not infinite, but you can out-parry more ragers than you're ever actually gonna encounter in a mission

#

But also you have to factor in trash hitting you too, so like its a lot, but not forever

#

Test it with Creature Spawner in Psykhanium

#

You can spawn like 100 of 'em an be fine because Perilous will start to take over if you run out of Perils room and Shriek ofc so you can keep going

deft stump
plucky flax
deft stump
deft stump
rancid jasper
rancid jasper
#

If an enemy dies to a teammate while they are soulblazed, does it count as your kill for getting EP stacks?

visual phoenix
rancid jasper
# visual phoenix

is that from a geometry dash level
or does all dubstep just sound the same

gray juniper
#

Other times it’s like an aristocrats cane. Used to block cretins and hit them over the head to clear a path

visual phoenix
hearty wolf
#

Chat dead

plucky flax
#

Ppl working

gray juniper
#

I’m never going to pc

wraith sphinx
#

I'm trying to learn drawing but this shit hard

#

had another nice arbites-less match today

radiant frigate
hearty wolf
#

I'm cursed to have permanent fear of any kind of game that involves drawing

marble crater
wraith sphinx
#

when writing I just think of something broad then commit it to paper and just make minor adjustments as needed

#

drawing just requires continuous iteration no way around it

gray juniper
marble crater
#

Stinkiest lobby on Atoma

gray juniper
#

Musty sweat and incense all around

gray juniper
#

Painting and especially oil painting relies on mastered drawing as the base for paint to be layered on

rancid jasper
#

i dont wanna be that guy but art is subjective, there isn't really a "trick"

that being said, starting with a light sketch that you can easily erase can definetely help get the desired result if you have a specific image in mind and don't want to mess it up and be unable to erase it

wraith sphinx
marble crater
#

Just use AI, smh

rancid jasper
hearty wolf
#

I'm down to use AI though

#

What I want is an artist who can use AI so they can tweak as needed

#

Imagine how much they could pump out

#

Then I wouldn't need to spend an insane amount of custom artwork 😭

#

Moi desktop background

#

I think it was like £50-80 iirc

#

And this was like £70

deft stump
radiant frigate
#

getting art is a luxury

deft stump
radiant frigate
#

also didn't know you were a bunny enjoyer

hearty wolf
#

I have big hots for the bunny and elves

#

Something about the ears I guess

radiant frigate
#

dark knight very based class btw

hearty wolf
#

Or maybe temperament

#

Brr

#

Ignore that 1 WAR parse

#

We did a meme run on the last day of the patch and I just kept cutting

radiant frigate
hearty wolf
#

Critting

#

I was actually sobbing

#

I haven't played in a few years at this point. Haven't seen all that graphical changes etc

radiant frigate
#

oh yeah same

#

but i am playing wow

hearty wolf
#

I haven't played WOW since I was

#

Uh...

#

9

radiant frigate
#

very epic

#

I'm demolishing in the special olympics

#

(nothing fucking worked)

merry meteor
#

I see Kinetic Deflection talent taken in builds a bit too often than I would expect. What do I miss? Like, blocking isn't usually the best strategy in this game, not to mention for prolonged amount of time. And for throwing a couple blocks here and there stamina should be enough?

hearty wolf
#

I want to lick it

#

Let me lick

radiant frigate
hearty wolf
#

What happened in the Stone Guard 😭

radiant frigate
merry meteor
merry meteor
#

what about other types of assists, does it work as well?

radiant frigate
#

rescues yes

#

de-netting idk but it's so fast it barely matters

marble crater
#

Kinetic deflection also allows you to sprint everywhere and still block when out of stamina

radiant frigate
#

^honestly the bigger reason

#

loops back around to saving people

#

you can run to a downed teammate and just pick them up

deft stump
hearty wolf
#

KD makes you survive stuff you literally cannot survive normally

#

Dc'd but you were holding block? You're fine

#

So when are we going to get staffs in the primary slot

rancid jasper
#

would a bunch of brittleness make soulblaze a bit better against carapace

glacial vapor
#

KD is great just so you don't get bullied by the Chaos Spawn KEKW_ogryn

hearty wolf
deft stump
glacial vapor
#

I've seen enough psykers get slapped around by those things

rancid jasper
deft stump
strong gulch
#

wait that's not the vid of it getting cut in half

rancid jasper
radiant frigate
#

illisi mentioned

#

the proto-greatsword

strong gulch
#

Where is Json anyways??

radiant frigate
#

i love the funny crusher onetap

deft stump
strong gulch
#

You can also just staff bonk things.

marble crater
#

You can also have Karien protect you

hearty wolf
#

That sounds overpowered

merry meteor
#

what does electrocuting do, as an independent status?

#

just +10% damage?

potent echo
#

There's no 10% damage

#

Well it depends which source did the electrocuting

merry meteor
#

The Charged Strike sub-talent of Smite

#

can't get if it's worth to take it

ornate hamlet
potent echo
#

It just does damage over time

#

I don't think it applies the smite status..

merry meteor
#

so what does it do?

potent echo
#

A really low dot

#

The only plus side is maybe it affects everything you hit

#

But you should never take it whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
marble crater
deft stump
merry meteor
#

Just tried to make psyker as supportive as possible

merry meteor
#

for my pal who prefer playing support builds

tulip kettle
plucky flax
#

This is not mmo you don't need support or tank. Maybe in the hardest contents (support) a bit of support might be required if team are not confident.

hearty wolf
merry meteor
hearty wolf
#

I have dated many cosplayers

marble crater
hearty wolf
#

What do you think

merry meteor
#

some people like to feel they support others

hearty wolf
#

I had them do

#

Once I made a mistake though

tulip kettle
#

man dont this is not the place 🙂

plucky flax
#

Okay fair.

hearty wolf
#

This girl took it as a sign to unleash her freak

plucky flax
#

Run bubble it's your support.

hearty wolf
#

She was a furry

marble crater
hearty wolf
#

I had to shut that one down FAST

tulip kettle
#

not here 🙂

marble crater
#

Or go to zealot chat

tulip kettle
#

one of my exes is literlly called "princess kitty"

#

snm

hearty wolf
#

Back to Christianity

plucky flax
#

I think karien is a furry. loregryn

hearty wolf
#

That's why she's so strong

marble crater
hearty wolf
#

She turns into a shewolf or something

tulip kettle
marble crater
#

I make it good by applying it with a voidblast staff loregryn

tulip kettle
#

i too have been enjoying this

#

but i gotta say

#

running blazing trauma in havoc is kinda pain

deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
deft stump
hearty wolf
#

Furryien

deft stump
hearty wolf
#

Oh no, it's just Furyien 😭

plucky flax
#

My sleep score was 96 last night./

#

So close to perfect sleep.

#

Unsanctioned snooze.

hearty wolf
#

Body battery change

#

Are you a cyborg

plucky flax
hearty wolf
#

Also bed at 10pm is wild

plucky flax
#

My current battery is 50%.

#

I already used 50% of my power today. 😭

hearty wolf
jovial juniper
#

soyjack pointing

plucky flax
#

I'm too old to stay up late and be able to go to work in the morning.

hearty wolf
#

Don't you work from home tho

#

Just abuse coffee 🤔

visual phoenix
jovial juniper
#

Erm
Coffee just makes the sensation go away

#

You will shutdown eventually and you'll like it

#

That being said
I'll have mine with a bit of sugar

plucky flax
#

I don't work from home.

#

I just take 3 hours lunch break. staregryn

deft stump
plucky flax
#

Why am stared at. staregryn

#

@marble crater

marble crater
#

How would I know staregryn

jovial juniper
#

The four types

#

Awake
Nothing happens
Shit yourself
Sleepy

deft stump
hearty wolf
jovial juniper
hearty wolf
#

Chat is STILL dead

#

Is this the state of Darktide

#

Dying as we know it

#

How are my kids going to play it

glacial vapor
#

Playerbase died from the mission board changes

jovial juniper
#

It has been dead

#

It killed by

#

Helldivers
Space Marines 2

#

Firebreak

#

Killing Floor 3

visual phoenix
#

Grrrrr

hearty wolf
#

Imagine if any game was killed by killing floor 3

#

I have 3 hours to go

wind wind
plucky flax
#

Can't be me

wind wind
#

Youre HIM

#

Or HER

plucky flax
wind wind
visual phoenix
#

Youl see

#

I will pump the shit in those scoreboards

pale prairie
#

Needs more warp fire

oak echo
#

Any reason to run shriek instead of scrier's gaze?

celest quail
#

shriek is BIG pimpin dawg

#

stax

#

BIG stax

jovial juniper
pale prairie
pale prairie
#

But yes it’s a great source of flames

celest quail
#

idk why that didnt load gif preview in here, but thats the mood when you hit 20+ stacks and pop a dang ole' red stim bubba

rancid jasper
#

which setting in the moregraphicsoptions mod could be causing fire to become invisible for me?
i keep wondering why im taking damage lol then i realized its invisible fire

pale prairie
#

It’s fast

celest quail
#

duh, its early, im tired. shoulda known

oak echo
pale prairie
oak echo
#

And I feel like I have a longer downtime with shriek than I do with staves

#

With gaze, I can just keep spamming the trauma staff/assail without worrying about blowing up for at least 10 seconds after hitting 100 peril again

#

But with the peril generation, I find myself quelling more often when using shriek

celest quail
#

I have come to find that if you have a purg shriek/bubble psyker and your whole group plays around that, its very effective/successfuly in higher havocs. When I play my own psyker I cant seem to ever find a group that can comprehend or do this reliably, but I swapped to my taunt ogryn last night and babysat the purg psyker we had, and we cleared havoc 31 fairly smoothly. Anyone else feel that this is true, or do I just have bad luck with team mates?

celest quail
pale prairie
# oak echo With gaze, I can just keep spamming the trauma staff/assail without worrying abo...

I mean yeah it’s fun and cool. I think though that most people pair shriek with the warp siphon keystone and also just go left side of tree and cooldown aura. The downtime for shriek ends up being really short.

Everybody plays their own way. I prefer shriek cause I love using an EK staff and the creeping flames from shriek help me get highdensity crowd damage (and proc KF on BB)

oak echo
pale prairie
oak echo
#

It's kinda counterintuitive to constantly be at high peril but spend most of the time quelling or waiting for it to go back down

#

Rather than just popping scrier and going ham at full warp rider bonuses

#

For 10 whole seconds

#

I did try warp charge with shriek but it's still kind of underwhelming

pale prairie
#

Different builds for different playstyles

celest quail
pale prairie
celest quail
#

I prefer warp charge myself, psyker was my first class, and i started playing before you had smite and keystones and assail etc so its just what im used to.

celest quail
pale prairie
oak echo
#

Imagine having to concern yourself with peril management

#

When you can stay at 100 peril for 10 seconds

#

It's like taking the bottoms off of a magazine of ammo

#

Unlimited power

pale prairie
#

For inferno specifically I don’t think you get a lot of benefits from scriers other than tankiness from the TDR and unlimited casting for a bit

#

Maybe movement speed

opaque tree
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Blaze away and penetrating flames seem way too strong, isn’t ever worth swapping one for nexus warp for the crit?

wind wind
oak echo
wind wind
pale prairie
oak echo
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Inferno staff RMB? wots dat

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Just spam LMB

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Turn brain off

pale prairie
opaque tree
oak echo
wind wind
pale prairie
oak echo
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Dangerous? I'm literally playing the game on autopilot

deft stump
oak echo
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No need to think about peril management

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When the game gives you a 10s window of "go nuts"

pale prairie
deft stump
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Especially edging for that 40 kills in one gaze.

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pale prairie
# oak echo It uh... Does.

Cool? So you staggered 2 guys rather than the 5 others behind the first 2 and did way less damage? I don’t see your point for only using LMB

oak echo
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Just keep spamming LMB

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LMB spam staggers better than charging with RMB

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Stagger is safety

wind wind
pale prairie
wind wind
oak echo
pale prairie
pale prairie
oak echo
pale prairie
oak echo
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You don't need to RMB

wind wind
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Preferred psyker is gaze meleepsyker rn. Bistol+ force great sword+ gaze + assail

Found that to be the most ubiqitous and strangely, the most survivable

oak echo
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Perfect brain-off gameplay

pale prairie
wind wind
oak echo
pale prairie
oak echo
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Auric with the funni event modifiers

pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
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I guess I have the whole staff and want to use all of it. Especially the line of fire that can hit the whole crowd not just a couple ranks

oak echo
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You can hit the entire crowd if you LMB spam enough)))

hearty wolf
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It's rage bait

marble crater