psyker-class

[quartz barn]

Odyssey is s good game, but tge base game is too bloated

Combat really shines in the dlc

[visual phoenix]

Currently yes, not after a "new havoc"
I missed all the grind for friend session in roblox lol

Gonna be the comp question and map

[quartz barn]

I have had origins installed for a really long time but havent played it

[visual phoenix]

Il do it sometime

[quartz barn]

I got baited by the 97% off

[plucky flax]

Odyssey combat is also really good

Improvement over origins.

Valhalla is downgraded

I love the cool fantasy skills in odyssey

[quartz barn]

Ye one of the few games that does % scaling really well

[plucky flax]

The bull rush full upgrade was so based

Valhalla they tried to be grounded and realistic it just became boring af

I played close to 30 hours and I was like at 20% of the game then I said fuck that and uninstalled

Odyssey I finished twice 😭

[quartz barn]

Odysseys characters being disliked is also really ironic

Forgot what the philosopher was called, but hes literally meant to be disliked because hes always neutral

Actually on par with no one liking him irl lmao

[rancid jasper]

how do blaze force greatsword ability [warpshock slash] soulblaze stacks function
is it like blazing spirit? if you do it and blazing spirit at the same time can it go over max?

[quartz barn]

But i also lucked out and got one of the better endings, doing a 100h playthrough and getting a bad ending is just bad design imo

[marble crater]

I bought Unity again, it's my favorite in terms of stealth

[marble crater]

The warp slice can't apply soulblaze

[rancid jasper]

bruh i just saw blue on the enemies and instantly thought it was soulblaze

just a weird particle effect, my bad

[marble crater]

Happens, there are too many colors in the game

[brazen rampart]

If warpshock slash could apply soulblaze, then the guaranteed crit on warpshock slash blessing and blazing spirit together would be fucking sick for a staffker setup.

[rancid jasper]

i just wish warpshock slash could hit weakspots it would be very convenient for true aim builds

[warped perch]

Hi Frogcast ily

[paper oriole]

Grounded combat and rpg don’t mix well

[marble crater]

I like Valhalla, it's a good viking game, bad Assassin's Creed game. Like Black Flag is a great pirate game and bad Assassin's Creed

[rancid jasper]

ok i now have a version of this question that is actually real

Blaze force sword's blazing spirit says it goes to a max of 12 stacks. i hear that the max of blazing spirit is 6, i assume that refers specifically to vb and vs staffs
How do the two blazing spirit caps interact with each other?

if you max out voidblast blazing spirits on an enemy then max out blaze sword blazing spirits, would it only go up to 12 or would it be 18?

[marble crater]

It would go to 12

However...

[rancid jasper]

shriek?

[marble crater]

Blazing Spirit on melee is bad, because anything you crit and gets the soulblaze will just die with the next hit and the soulblaze will have done nothing except look cool

[rancid jasper]

oh

u have a point ngl

[hearty wolf]

Not the brain rot "ngl"

[marble crater]

The only reason blazing spirit on voidblast is as good as it is, is because the area for the soulblaze application is much bigger than the center where all the damage is

[rancid jasper]

it's just an acronym

[hearty wolf]

No no

It's not that

Wait maybe I can make my point

Do you mind telling me how old you are?

[rancid jasper]

you can definetely make your point without that information

[hearty wolf]

Wait no you use square brackets too

What kind of creature are you 🤔

[rancid jasper]

lmao did you go through my message history to gather my typing habits 😭

[weary idol]

This acronym is older than the term brain rot

[hearty wolf]

Yes

[weary idol]

ngl is short for Not Gonna Lie which has been around since like...2006

[hearty wolf]

It's not the acronym that I was gunning for

It was the style of typing of adding something redundant right at the end

It's more common with zoomers

And ngl is a zoomer favourite

One of my cousin's who is

Uh...I think she's 17 now

[rancid jasper]

ngl youre right tbh

[hearty wolf]

She just adds redundant shit to her sentences all the time

And if it's not at the end of the sentence, it's at the beginning

Tbh being the other one 😭

[rancid jasper]

fr

[hearty wolf]

It's particularly bad with the British

Still the square brackets were 🔥

[rancid jasper]

how much research have you put into this bro

[hearty wolf]

Do 16 year olds really care about game mechanics that much? (If so you're a rare specimen)

Or if not, why are you old and acting young

[hearty wolf]

I could write a paper on this on god

[weary idol]

I cared a lot about game mechanics when I was 16

[rancid jasper]

I find ngl useful for a "i'm wrong you're right" kind of tone, probably just me

[weary idol]

But I could count myself as an anomaly because I got really into the FGC

[rancid jasper]

but i assume that's why most people do it, to add to the tone of a message or to add personality

[weary idol]

Which I imagine most young people are not doing

Or well young-er people I'm not exactly old

[hearty wolf]

Me too but you're you

I can discern that more easily from the rest of the way you carry yourself

But I'm intrigued by this gremlin because he isn't as old and he's still interested despite being in the era of zooming

It gives me hope for the future

[glacial vapor]

Aging people with acronyms we would have used on MSN messenger back in the day is interesting ngl

[weary idol]

I think they weren't aged by the acronym specifically but the habit of adding acronyms at the end of sentences

[rancid jasper]

i am a zoomer and plenty of zoomers i know are interested in the depths of game mechanics, if that gives you any more hope

although I'm surprised you could discern so easily between zoomer and alpha

[upper sun]

imagine playing ubishit games 🚬

speaking of shit tunnels in fucking game do not work correctly

the one on the left leads to the one on the right not the one directly infront of it

who the fuck made this shit

[marble crater]

[hearty wolf]

Yep

And looks like I was right too.

Sort of reminds me of me when I was young and spry

And now I'm fucking ancient 😭

[paper oriole]

You just need „a few” people from a generation. There will always be those 🙂

[hearty wolf]

They need to duplicate though and duplication chances are lowering with the average person becoming as mentally tuned as a poxwalker

[paper oriole]

I dunno, that assumes we reached peak when the first humans came

[hearty wolf]

I think that was peak gameplay

[paper oriole]

Could have been 🤷‍♂️

Difficulty was harsh

[tulip kettle]

(8) cringey emo lyrics (8)

(y)

[paper oriole]

Emo feels so old

That popular 2000-2010 subculture

[plucky flax]

Evernesence or whatever the band is called.

[tulip kettle]

dont act like you dont know

akon enjoyer

[plucky flax]

Akon

Goated singer

Bro has such a nice voice.

[tulip kettle]

lsg - my body

[deft stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YxaaGgTQYM (Does this not insta play in your head?)

[vestal trench]

agevestigating via typing habits is hilarious and ive absolutely been clocked as a zoomer

worst part is youre right 😭

[hearty wolf]

The things I notice are absolutely autistic to a scary level

You think I'm a weetard now? You've seen nothing yet

[vestal trench]

i do think the brackets throwing you off is super valid because elder zoomers (me) have a pretty decent chance of being on the internet during the msn/yahoo messenger era when they shouldnt be

[paper oriole]

How can you seen into our heads like open doors?

[vestal trench]

i was talking to my boss about something and i mentioned something very 2000s internet culture and she was like "how tf do you know that"

me being on forum era internet unsupervised in 2007:

[visual phoenix]

Peak

[vestal trench]

ok but it's valid lmao, whenever i see "xD" im like "either elder gen z or older"

[visual phoenix]

But i fucking love dinosaurs with green day

Cinema

[hearty wolf]

It's not just that it's brackets

It was SQUARE brackets

[vestal trench]

younger gen z use more "gen z slang" of the appropriated AAVE variety

[plucky flax]

There's a girl with really old school emo rock vibe. Violent vira

https://youtu.be/WRK2pIsjLeI

[deft stump]

I feel old again, lmao.

[plucky flax]

@deft stump

[deft stump]

You listen to such? I basically ended up moving to symphonic Metal. XD

[paper oriole]

From what I have seen it depends on the country, a lot

[visual phoenix]

Im sorry fellas

This is peak

https://youtu.be/cGUv1RKysPE?si=goGYPt-i_81_Q5Mv

I love this so much

[paper oriole]

https://youtu.be/k6EQAOmJrbw?feature=shared

NCR anyone 🫣?

[paper oriole]

I am sorry but this is edited into everything now 😆

[plucky flax]

Not regularly but this girl is good

I prefer more r&b stuff

[round summit]

why do people hate the inferno staff build? is it because it cant kill ranged specialist?

[plucky flax]

Who hates it?

[round summit]

someone here earlier said they hate it

its same catagory as smite builds

[visual phoenix]

Dinos are so cool

[paper oriole]

Damn straight 😎

[visual phoenix]

Raaaaaw

[radiant frigate]

unfortunately i already spoiled the answer

multiple times

[deft stump]

Ah. I basically ended up listening to Nightwish anyway later down the line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXYzFIdXeG8

[radiant frigate]

wake me up

1. before you go-go
2. when September ends 😭
3. WAKE ME UP INSIDE

[paper oriole]

Good songs all around 🔥

I still have all of these in my playlist 😊

[strong gulch]

I've seen them open for green day.

How's that for a point for old??

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/have-i-fulfilled-my-role-as-your-wise-and-wizened-elder-jaheira-druid-elder-elf-gif-16469876250773937736

[pale prairie]

Numb? In the End? Photograph? How you remind me?

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[deft stump]

Ah, Numb... I felt it when young.

[pale prairie]

Advanced aging, a negative side effect of helping carry in Darktide

[paper oriole]

There will be newer generations to enlighten 🫡
They will come and we shall stand up to the task 🙌

[deft stump]

Wot.

[pale prairie]

WDYM

[radiant frigate]

[vestal trench]

the zoomers and alphas need to be course corrected

idk why but a decent chunk of them are puritans

[deft stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts (Gawddamnit. I'm being led through the rabbithole of songs I heard when I was much younger.)

[dull scroll]

melees hate it because it mass murders chaffs and easily out damages them
the idea of a glass cannon escapes certain people; this class have higher dmg output by design to balance the fact it's squashy like an egg

[weary idol]

because it's boring for the other 3 players

horde shooter but one guy kills the horde by looking at them

it's a glass cannon but their damage output enables to not interact with the game systems

[rigid sky]

Internet's been colonised by fucking nazis, is the problem.

[radiant frigate]

when

[rigid sky]

Steve Bannon and Peter Thiel can get in the sea.

[radiant frigate]

where

[radiant frigate]

who

[pale prairie]

https://youtu.be/qN5zw04WxCc?si=IkA_EkFqwxepWBpR

[dull scroll]

dead wrong, if that's the case every noob that picks up an inferno would automatically become a god easily clearing h40 the moment they step into havoc

instead of the fact 90% of this class population been dog water

[deft stump]

Heck, I would even put myself under that. I just know to dodge and block more than most. XD

[radiant frigate]

the unenlightened masses do not understand psyker

they just think it's squishy and pointless

[tulip kettle]

and then meanwhile 90% of games the inferno bubble psyker is the guy hard pushing gunners because everybody else wants to hide from them until the game ends

[deft stump]

I run extra squishy, you know.

[rigid moss]

I felt this.

[radiant frigate]

squishy carryen

[rigid moss]

I recently had an ogryn bullrushing into every shooter group he found.

[tulip kettle]

i would add him as a friend

[rigid moss]

I loved running after someone and bubbling them for a change.

[pale prairie]

I thought you all in on stamina, KD, Deflector , and block efficiency?

[rigid moss]

That was so nice.

[tulip kettle]

its like

just trust me to bubble for you

[deft stump]

Yes, but if you mess up... time to play the rest at 6 HP.

[pale prairie]

As Ogryn I don’t trust for the bubble. That’s why I use shield

[glacial vapor]

People have been too traumatised by the average random

[pale prairie]

And slide like it’s an ice rink

[weary idol]

no

I'm gonna go kill them myself

[tulip kettle]

i think its just that they dont understand havoc

and think they will win a gunner duel

vs the infinitely spawning gunners

[pale prairie]

Pffff just a regular midweek off hours game sesh for you though

Also note you survived with 6 hp

I’d be dead

[deft stump]

Welcome to my 2 HP vet. I missed a dog and then got flamered. Dropped to 2 Hp and got out.

[weary idol]

I will

[tulip kettle]

anything is fine as long as you fking push them instead of competing with the other 2 guys to be the guy hitting poxwalkers at the back

man if they will win the gunner duel then DO IT

[deft stump]

Stabbed them both after glaring at the useless psyker that just basically left me to die, and then they died somewhere else.

[pale prairie]

Man nothing is more fun as Ogryn than getting into a pack of gunners. Other than knocking carapace on their fat asses

[tulip kettle]

but when youve been stood behind the same piece of cover for nearly 5 minutes waiting for the shooting to stop its like, fuck it, im going

[pale prairie]

Actually I take that back being able to survive 5 barrel explosions over the course of the game is pretty nice too

[pale prairie]

Yeah 5 minutes would be crazy to sit somewhere during a havoc

[tulip kettle]

i dont let it get to that point any more

i just yolo push

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/violetevergarden-violet-anime-war-gif-10840730

[pale prairie]

I’ve done that before. Saved a psyker that I had just revived in a Heresy. Then instead of elevator he runs off alone and gets dogged so I have to haul my slow Slab ass to grenade launch him free and I just stared at him as he shamefully walked back to elevator

Like come on man stick together

[deft stump]

The thing is. I got dogged basically next to him. 1 projectile or just a slash would be fine.

[pale prairie]

Hahahahahahaa

[deft stump]

Nope, he wandered off and I got out because flamer.

[pale prairie]

Lost a game yesterday cause the arbie right next to me couldn’t unnet me

I was pinging and everything

Just ran away and then died

[pale prairie]

The only time I pray for flamer is when dogged

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[deft stump]

2 HP.

And karker wondered why I CBA to help him after.

[pale prairie]

It’s just a flesh wound

[pale prairie]

Did he wonder? He’s the main character and doesn’t need help

[deft stump]

He was constantly kissing the floor.

[pale prairie]

Hahahahahahahahaha

[deft stump]

Or in rescue.

[pale prairie]

Most Darktide pros don’t want you to know that the best way to play the game is as a Twitch Stream. Just watch from rescue

[deft stump]

This was like 280~ ping to US W.

[pale prairie]

Oh a good day /s

[deft stump]

Is a good day.

[pale prairie]

God damn

[deft stump]

Cos the server was one closer to US E, lul.

And that went to 380~

[rancid jasper]

What damage type is soulblaze [ranged, warp, etc] [sry for all the questions google just doesn't have good info on this game for some reason [omg square brackets]]

[deft stump]

Higher end, so yes, actually good day.

Bad day, US E is over 400.

[strong gulch]

warp

[rancid jasper]

nice, so perfect timing synergy?

[pale prairie]

Other than the political hellscape I do appreciate the good ping I have on US West

[strong gulch]

Soulblaze (SB) DoT itself is warp. There is direct damage from inferno that is warp and ranged.

[deft stump]

There's a massive sea between, you know... Then landmass.

[strong gulch]

Yes, but SB DoT does not crit.

[rancid jasper]

ofc, imagine empathic evasion lol

[pale prairie]

You mean you and US east right?

[strong gulch]

Inferno + EE has a lot of uptime.

[deft stump]

Both. The worse US W server tends to be more inland, I think.

[pale prairie]

Can you imagine if it did?

[pale prairie]

All I know is that I only get the occasional typical FatShark server connection drop. Just part of playing the game

[round summit]

what is EE

[strong gulch]

EE = Empathic Evasion

[pale prairie]

Empathic Evasion

[strong gulch]

Abbreviations in the pins.

[round summit]

ye but i cant find it anyway 😄 is it a talent?

[deft stump]

But is really why I don't wanna psyker out of heresy. high ping makes my bees sus already.

[strong gulch]

It's alphabetical for easier navigation of the list.

Yes it's a talent on the tree. Above SG.

[pale prairie]

It’s just below the auras on the right

[weary idol]

what's SG

[strong gulch]

[round summit]

ok found it ty 😄

[deft stump]

Singapore... Oh wait.

[round summit]

why does EE make inferno have alot of uptime?

[pale prairie]

Nonononono so the inferno if built as recommended allows a lot of crits. Crits activate 1 second of RANGED damage immunity. Like you’re dodging. Which is good cause inferno has short range

[round summit]

oh, i see, thx! 😄

[deft stump]

Is why funni bees into gunners, lul.

[strong gulch]

The other way around. Inferno makes EE have a lot of up time. One of the blessing taken on inferno is warp nexus, which increases crit chance with peril. Each hit of inferno's direct damage can crit independently and has infinite cleave. Therefore lots of crits and good EE uptime.

[lucid kestrel]

It was procing the crit talents up until the last hotfix, they just fixed it lol

[pale prairie]

What bees? NEW STAFF DROP WHEN?!?

[round summit]

okey yes mb, ty for explaining to me 🙂

[strong gulch]

assail

[pale prairie]

Goddamn it. I was wondering if it got nerfed

[deft stump]

Assailer is beekeeper.

[strong gulch]

warp bees

[pale prairie]

But they don’t look cute or have yellow stripes

Also no alive

[rancid jasper]

bumblebee skin for assail when

[pale prairie]

Oh man

Give me an assail staff

[strong gulch]

Is old colloquial name for assail. Image not being here for assail's whole existence.

[pale prairie]

I’ve been around for the game’s existence I just never joined the discord because of introverted avoidance of strangers. Just pubs queueing my whole time

[strong gulch]

But that's not here. Oh the suffering.

[pale prairie]

Don’t we like suffering? I mean that’s what it seems like

[strong gulch]

SO TRUE

[round summit]

why cant i name my builds 😭

[strong gulch]

on games lantern?

Do you have an account?

[round summit]

nono i mean ingame

[pale prairie]

In game?

Hahaha

[strong gulch]

Oh lol yeah

[pale prairie]

There’s probably a mod for that

[strong gulch]

There is a mod yeah

It's not in the game.

default I mean

[round summit]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da46cff-2e44-4750-99ea-8d593c148409/moonlight-gunker this build still going? last thing i havnt tried is gun SG psyker

from pins

[pale prairie]

Potato I hope yours are named after potato dishes

[strong gulch]

They aren't

[plucky flax]

No assails on that build kinda sus

[strong gulch]

Unless you are specifically trying to remove CC from your kit to get better at melee, then I don't rec BB on gunker.

[plucky flax]

And whatever the node they took instead of tru aim idk

[strong gulch]

I didn't even see that. Yeah sus

[round summit]

its from pins

from here

do u guys have a diffrent build ready i can use?

[pale prairie]

Is Columnus still good? Everybody here seems to love Bolt Pistal and Las Pistol

[glacial vapor]

IAG? They had a name change but I think the Vraks is the best options

Highest fire rate and good crits + finesse

[pale prairie]

Good place to start

[strong gulch]

Shows how much I go to that thread. There's "interesting" things there.

[plucky flax]

Karien is after some noobs to carry

Who wants to volunteer?

[deft stump]

I AM NAWT CARRYING. YOU ARE.

[strong gulch]

I can do one

[pale prairie]

If I wasn’t at work I would

[strong gulch]

maybe more

[round summit]

4 points to do what i want with?

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[pale prairie]

The sword and relics are good in the build you posted. I didn’t check the perks on the relics but I prefer

Health and toughness bonuses and combat ability cooldown reduction.

It sounds like Vraks is pretty good as a gun. I don’t know since I never use them haha

[languid flicker]

https://imgur.com/a/g3rRQv1

I'd love to ask the devs if they have any intention of removing game breaking mechanics for the Psyker class

[round summit]

what gun would u use?

[plucky flax]

You know recon las is the best gun.

[round summit]

infantry autogun is the only gun i have at 500 on psyker

[pale prairie]

Benefits of recon lasgun is consistency right? And high ammo efficiency?

[pale prairie]

Are you talking about when you hit the burster with your sword swing and I assume KF activated?

[plucky flax]

Very little recoil ammo efficiency and infernus for monsters.

[glacial vapor]

Great hipfire too

[languid flicker]

No I linked to a short screen cap from a game i had earlier today

[plucky flax]

Yeah hipfire up to medium range.

Very good for slide running abusing mettle and ee.

[languid flicker]

The class is unplayable in the games current state

[plucky flax]

Skrrt skrrt around at mach speed.

[strong gulch]

Was gonna say decent mobility too

[ripe obsidian]

Looks like you hit a burster and it blew up.

[languid flicker]

This doesn't happen to other classes

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, it does.

[pale prairie]

Other classes can hit busters

[languid flicker]

I was never downed, and only had damage from the rotten armor mode

[glacial vapor]

Oh trust me, it does

[languid flicker]

yes and they get downed if barely lose health

Arbites and ogryn in that case

[ripe obsidian]

You had like 70 HP and 50 purple HP.

[languid flicker]

We didnt watch the same video

[ripe obsidian]

Bursters do 10x toughness damage and full overflow into HP.

[pale prairie]

I think those classes start with 3 wounds

[languid flicker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKK97pqBJgI

[ripe obsidian]

The burster destroyed your toughness and filled the rest of your HP with purple. You died.

[languid flicker]

I dropped it on youtube

[glacial vapor]

Only Ogryn

[pale prairie]

Where is @gray juniper and his Martyrdom build this is a use case

[pale prairie]

My bad. I thought arbiter did too

[languid flicker]

I have 97 hp and 155 toughness with scrier gaze activated and it just blew through that

That is a broken game mechanic

[ripe obsidian]

Youtube or imgur, the outcome is the same. You hit a burster. It took you below 1 wound with corruption damage. You died. This is the expected outcome.

[languid flicker]

No other class gets droped like that

[glacial vapor]

I'm not actually sure if Druidic hit that burster, seemed like it popped early, though it's not like it would have saved him

[languid flicker]

It shouldnt be, thats the point, zealot with similar stats will not be insta killed by that explosion

[glacial vapor]

Just takes a few more bursters

[pale prairie]

It says his character killed the pox buster in the death scroll

[languid flicker]

Yeah thats crazy though

3 in a row, all direct hits

[ripe obsidian]

Also, SG only gives toughness damage reduction. Bursters do 1000% toughness damage

[languid flicker]

Psyker has zero margin of error, that is simply not balanced

[round summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cincinnati-bengals-jerome-simpson-dancing-dance-happy-gif-7430370169551189058

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker can also do 2x the damage of any other class. That is the tradeoff of a glass cannon

[glacial vapor]

I do sympathise with the bursters though, they have serious issues with sounds atm

[languid flicker]

Whats the point of a class where the player can do everything right and still die to this ied type explosion purely based on RNG

[pale prairie]

I don’t know what to tell you dude. That’s the way the class works. It’s a literal glass cannon.

[pale prairie]

You didn’t do everything right. You swung into a burster. Completely understandable but not definition of “perfect play”

[marble crater]

Psyker does have very good active defenses, there is definitely room for error with kinetic deflection and deflector

[ripe obsidian]

Coming into the Psyker discord channel and saying that the class is bad and broken isn't a good way to get sympathy.

[languid flicker]

Is a broken class, this could be changed, as it stands now most players don't have the same understanding of how this class works compared to others,

[marble crater]

Clad is bad and broken

[languid flicker]

Why is that?

[ripe obsidian]

So what? Not all classes need to be the same skill floor or ceiling.

[pale prairie]

It could use some tree optimization but I don’t think it’s broken

[round summit]

how do i use assail? just to up my peril?

[languid flicker]

How are newer players supposed to pick up a class when they are just instakilled without an understanding of what they did wrong

[pale prairie]

Why are you using the class if you think its basic blocks are broken?

[ripe obsidian]

Assail shreds mixed hordes. It's a lot of bonus damage against smaller enemies, and it staggers ragers.

[rigid moss]

I mean it's okay if you don't enjoy the Psyker playstyle and tradeoffs. You have all the right in the world to vibe more with one playstyle or the other.

Personally, I hate playing Zealot with a passion. I never got into the rhythm that is required to play that class correctly and I don't feel like learning it because the playstyle doesn't suit me. Do I think a Zealot is broken and needs to be different? No, I just don't like it.

[ripe obsidian]

Assail is also useful for keeping peril high on gun and melee builds

[languid flicker]

Because the class is otherwise fairly balanced

[pale prairie]

I dunno about other people but I learned by dying over and over until I stopped.

[rigid moss]

You not liking Psyker doesn't mean it doesnt work. It just means you don't like it.

[languid flicker]

this single unit type is the problem

[pale prairie]

You can’t say it’s broken and shit and then say it’s fairly balanced

[rigid moss]

There is no "objective brokenness" in Psyker class design. Psykers work fine.

[candid temple]

you should pick veteran next, very good levelling experience

[languid flicker]

90% of deaths on auric are to poxbursters

[rigid moss]

wut

:D

[candid temple]

skill issue

[languid flicker]

Thats the case for me anyway

[candid temple]

like, literally

[rigid moss]

yeah thats on you

[candid temple]

you can just push

[rigid moss]

sorry

[candid temple]

jfc

[pale prairie]

Get better headphones?

[languid flicker]

Lmao you don't understand me

[pale prairie]

Run away from the beeping?

[ripe obsidian]

This is just bait at this point

[rigid moss]

That's a you problem really.

[pale prairie]

Push the beeping?

[languid flicker]

I hardly ever go down

[candid temple]

[languid flicker]

I get instakilled periodically and it ruins the game

[rigid moss]

There's nothing more to say. If 90% of your deaths are to pox bursters that are easy to avoid and stay away from, that's just a you problem.

[languid flicker]

Thats all im saying

[candid temple]

either adapt to psyker

[round summit]

my weakness is trappers, i can dance around dogs and snipers all day but i always get timing wrong for trappers 😄

[ripe obsidian]

Guy must be playing on the early access of Darktide, before you could push Bursters.

[candid temple]

run bubbleknight

or you know

buy arbi or level up ogryn, zealot or vet

while I would love to add a unchained tree whenever they remake psyker tree, I doubt that's in the cards

[rigid moss]

"Poxbursters regularly explode in my face and I think it's unfair that I die then" is not a good take.

Really not.

"But I survive on other classes" doesn't help that.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/dana-carvey-grumpy-old-man-snl-the-way-it-was-and-we-liked-it-gif-24436944

[rigid moss]

No we didn't.

[nocturne dust]

Well, I would like them to fix poxbursters being silent/ignoring pushes.

[pale prairie]

Is joke

[rigid moss]

I know

[rigid moss]

I have that issue much more with Crushers than with Bursters tbh

but maybe I'm just deaf

Honestly, 90% of my deaths are due to Crushers hammering me down because I'm either too stupid to dodge or didn't hear them coming.

That's my skill issue for sure.

[round summit]

so how do i play this really? just pop SG and run around hunting DD targets?

[languid flicker]

Yeah, other than some stubborn defensive reaction to everone's favorite class, what about players that simply have a more modest skill level

[nocturne dust]

That's not about skill level, sometimes poxbursters just decide to not work, like most things in the game

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't had a lot of issues with burster audio lately, but loads of problems with pushing them.

Every couple games, if I recorded my games, you would see my increasingly frantic attempts to push the Termi-Burster.

[rigid moss]

I love how "they don't agree with my take" now translates to "you're just defensive and I'm right" 🙄

Be better.

[pale prairie]

That’s why I use FGS you best believe I spam the force push

[ripe obsidian]

My (limited) experience with SG is that it has a very low cooldown, so use it whenever you encounter anything you want to die faster. If you're focusing on melee, DSII might be a little better, as I believe it has better horde clear. The heavy chain is identical to the DSIV if you do H1 > Special. H2 is a sweeping attack, though, rather than a poke.

[misty ferry]

They shouldn't be playing auric

[ripe obsidian]

Our take, sibling.

[pale prairie]

How does that work into carapace is my only concern

Ah I see it’s heavy special spam

[languid flicker]

Yes I've noticed that AOE damage doesn't scale very well with range and obstacles, sometimes you just get slapped even with the burster seems to be miles away.

[misty ferry]

"Why can't I play the harder difficulties with modest skill?" Is not a good question to have on ya head

[ripe obsidian]

Special comes out super quickly and staggers everything on a headshot

It also allows stacking of Uncanny faster due to the speed of the attack.

[pale prairie]

Mmmmmm

[ripe obsidian]

Is less good against bosses or if Uncanny is already fully stacked

[pale prairie]

Yeah but that’s what the autogun is for yeah?

[ripe obsidian]

The stagger of the special even stops charging Mutants, if you aim right

[languid flicker]

I don't care if you agree, I'm posing the question why this is a good "feature" when you start on the Skill issue crap that is defensive and evasive

[pale prairie]

What would you call swinging a sword into an enemy you know is explosive?

It’s “90% of your deaths” did you not decide to look around for the source of mysterious beeping?

[ornate hamlet]

how do i reset havoc demotions? can i just play a lower rank for it to reset?

[ripe obsidian]

#psyker-class message

How the AoE is supposed to scale, per the code. Several messages in that vicinity. Supposed to, though, is a vague statement.

[rigid moss]

Your take is "I shouldn't be punished so hard for that mistake that happened" and we can just agree that this doesn't seem to be a widespread problem in general. Yes, Psykers are squishy, that is just correct. To say they shouldn't be so squishy is an opinion. You have the right to have that opinion, that doesn't make it more correct than other opinions.

[languid flicker]

My guy, you can hear the alarm sound prior to the explosion, hitting or blocking doesn't make a difference at that point, you know this

[pale prairie]

Nobody is being defensive or evasive. You came in here not for advice or sympathy. You came here and are expecting everyone to go “yeah bursters should be deleted too OP. OR PSYKER SHOULD BE TANK LIKE OGRYN”. I don’t know what take you were expecting

[pale prairie]

You hear the beeping far before that

[ripe obsidian]

Any interaction with Havoc counts to prevent demotion

[languid flicker]

Its not a "mistake", its RNG, purely

[rigid moss]

You swung your sword into a pox burster

[languid flicker]

Im sure you all have experienced what I am talking about

[ripe obsidian]

"A player’s Assignment Rank is no longer determined by the highest completed Havoc Assignment Rank from the previous week. Instead, as long as a player is active each week, the player will retain their current Assignment Rank. (A player is considered “active” as long as they attempt at least (1) Havoc mission in a week. The player does not need to win the game in order to be considered an active player.)Now, the only way for a player’s Assignment Rank to go down is if they lose all three charges or they are inactive for a certain period of time (i.e. a player does not play at least (1) Havoc mission after a weekly reset)."

[rigid moss]

nothing about that is RNG

[languid flicker]

Bad faith bro, you can hear the alarm sound, it had already started the animation and would have killed me regaurdless

[ornate hamlet]

mybad im on havoc 35 on last retry before demote. Can i play like havoc 1 or something to reset to demote retries to 3 again?

join some new player

[languid flicker]

hitting a burster doesn't increase the damage either, am I wrong?

[pale prairie]

No you can hear ticking before that and you can even see the red glow on your screen but you were hyperfocused on the gunner. It insta exploded because you hit it with your big sword

[ripe obsidian]

Push + dodge-slide backward. Or double-push. Or push+ double-dodge backward. Or don't go near the beeping. Or shoot it before it gets close.

Point is, there is counterplay. It isn't RNG. Download the Spideysense or explosion radius mods if you're having audio issues.

[languid flicker]

what difference does it make, if the player is dead even if they did the "right" thing

[pale prairie]

YOU DIDNT THOUGH

My guy we have been telling you Meleeing a BURSTER (kind self explanatory name) is NOT correct play

[rigid moss]

Pox Bursters make a clonking sound from miles away. The closer they get, the more rapid the sound becomes. Then they start beeping when they're rigged to self explode, which becomes rapid when they start jumping on you. At that point, you can push and dodge back to avoid 100% of the burster damage.

[ripe obsidian]

Logic isn't going to work here. Person came in expecting the hivemind to support them. Hivemind didn't. Now this is less a game issue and more a pride issue.

But that's just my armchair psychologist take.

[rigid moss]

You didn't do any of that. You swung your sword into a pox burster. Then it exploded in your face, killing you.

[thorn cedar]

i avoid all burster damage by redirecting 100% of it onto my teammates by shooting it in their proximity

[pale prairie]

Yeah I have and I go. “Damn should have had more awareness”

I don’t go “this class is fucking broken because I can’t survive my own mistakes”

[ripe obsidian]

Real Psykers use Voidblast to blow it up right when an ally is about to push it.

[pale prairie]

See now this is a good take

[languid flicker]

@rigid moss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnDXh2jBDDc Here boss, you tell me if im bad at the game, this is auric and the build works great for me until I randomly get sent back to hangar

[rigid moss]

I'm telling you you didn't handle the burster correctly.

[thorn cedar]

"Whoops haha didn't hear it (yes my beloved i am a silly little trickster arent i)"

[rigid moss]

That has nothing to do with your build.

That is how you handle bursters on any character.

[pale prairie]

When he posted the clip is was like

“What am I seeing wrong here” I was expecting like typical Fatshark super bug

[rancid jasper]

use smite to pull it into them

[rigid moss]

Listen to the clonk -> orient yourself -> decide if you want to shoot it from far away or push it to self explode -> move towards it if safe -> wait for the beeping -> push it when it jumps -> dodge backwards -> avoid 100% of all damage.

That is the same for all classes

[ripe obsidian]

Lmao in the first 30 seconds you shoot a poxburster to blow up your Ogryn. You also walk into melee of multiple ragers and crushers hoping your team will pull aggro because you're too busy shooting.

This is not the checkmate you thought, guy

[pale prairie]

Damn now all I can think about is a Psyker talent “Unlucky For You” that redirects damage to teammates in coherency

[languid flicker]

Yeah I take no health damage other than the one dog

I got more clips, this is just typical game play, notice the ogryn was fine btw

[rigid moss]

Like, mate, a room full of people now think you just don't know how to push back pox bursters and you remain adamant that you did everything right.

[pale prairie]

I am starting to think this is indeed Ragebait

[rigid moss]

I don't know what kind of conversation you hope to have but that's not the one.

[languid flicker]

I do that all the time, I did it in the video I posted

[languid flicker]

Yeah just talking trash nonsense

[rigid moss]

Yeah and that time you didn't and you died for it so you made a mistake and the result is that the pox burster exploded in your face.

That happens

Happened to me as well

Just yesterday

I was lucky to survive it but it was a mistake that I made.

[languid flicker]

I like the class, I want to continue to play the class

[pale prairie]

I am talking about you buddy

[rigid moss]

Okay. That's a good take. It took me a long time to get comfortable with the squishiness of Psykers as well, at that time I died a lot because positioning was hard for me.

Psykers are squishy. That is true. Noone claiming any different.

And that can feel punishing. I agree.

[pale prairie]

The Ogryn lost half his health! That’s not fine! He probably was planning on pushing the burster like a normal player until you blew it up lmao

[rigid moss]

I have games where I die three times and rage at myself for having played too much Ogryn before and just running into enemies stupidly. It happens.

[languid flicker]

I think that for the player base to grow for psyker they should reevaluate some unit balancing, making spawn rates, etc

[ornate hamlet]

PSKYER IS fun AF

[rigid moss]

But that doesn't make the class bad, misdesigned, evil or in need of being completely different. It's just how the class is. You can always play lower difficulties with some classes than with other classes. I do the same.

[languid flicker]

Rage bait? bud you contributed nothing, go away

[rigid moss]

I'm shit with Ogryn and Zealot so I don't play them in high difficulties but just mess around with them in lower ones.

I'm much better with Vet and Psyker so I play them in high difficulties.

And that's okay.

[languid flicker]

This

[rigid moss]

And if I play a lot of Ogryn or Zealor then at one point I will learn them good enough to play them at higher difficulties than before.

[languid flicker]

I would play zealot more if I was better at it because sometimes its less frustrating to play

[round summit]

Possible to make dueling sword work? ill mainly be ranged tho

[rigid moss]

Psyker does play very different from the rest of the classes. Positioning, defensive awareness, balancing the huge amount of tools you have, that takes practice. As a Vet, I just have an "I win" button in Voice of Command. If I mess up my positioning, I can just press F and be fine. As a Psyker, I don't have that luxury.

So I need to play much more defensively and aware of where I am and where threats are.

[pale prairie]

What am I supposed to contribute? You screwed up and died and are mad about it. That sucks. But it doesn’t mean the class is broken.

[rigid moss]

That takes practice.

Doesn't make Psyker bad.

Makes Psyker exciting.

[languid flicker]

Pskyer ironically can play more like an FPS than vet

I don't mind being 2 shot by everything

[radiant frigate]

real psykers use voidblast to knock it into the team

[languid flicker]

Just not 1 shot by everything, thats a little much

[rigid moss]

But that doesn't mean that a Psyker should be different from where he is. You just need to adapt to what you're playing. And in this case: Be much more aware of where the bursters are.

Or in my case: the crushers

because I suck at crushers.

[pale prairie]

You do though. You posted clips and responded to everyone with evasiveness and defensiveness about how you aren’t the problem the class is for the last 45 min

[pale prairie]

Or smite

[languid flicker]

Blah blah whatever nerd

[rancid jasper]

"nerd" in 2025 😭
80s high school bully

[rigid moss]

Yes, Psyker takes practice. Maybe moreso than other classes. That's okay. That's part of the deal. In exchange, you get a lot of cool tools and the way to influence positioning of your team much more than any other class.

[radiant frigate]

burst his brain, siblings

[celest valve]

you are bad

[languid flicker]

Im kinda just bitching tbh, I hope they make it a little better in the future

[ripe obsidian]

DSII is the Dueling Sword Mk 2. The problem with being mostly ranged largely comes down to ammo. In many cases, gunkers are 50% melee, 30% assail, 20% ranged. At least, in my experience

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/man-did-i-get-burned-did-i-get-burned-burned-dissed-seth-meyers-gif-14147238

[radiant frigate]

psyker is plenty good already

easily top 5 classes

no contest

[rigid moss]

😂

[ripe obsidian]

Ehhhhh, bottom 5 at best.

[marble crater]

[rigid moss]

The average psyker ranks amongst the four best players in any given round, that must count for something, no?

[pale prairie]

Yeah just be careful about positioning cause the chaff horde is gonna be a slight weakness

[round summit]

unfortunely i hate playing assail, that will be the hardest with playing SG-gun build,

[languid flicker]

"at least 3 of you know what you are doing"

[celest valve]

Psyker is in the top four. Or five, doesn't matter.

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't tried DSII enough to have a great take on how well it deals with hordes. I just know that DSIV has a tough time

[pale prairie]

Use it to clear horde

Save your bullets

[pale prairie]

Same here

[ripe obsidian]

Is worth trying. I don't think you'll get a much better horde while keeping DS as your melee. Just remember that Heavy 1 is better than H2 for big guys, so you'll want to block-cancel or special attack to reset the chain after each H1

[pale prairie]

Is flak better than carapace?

[rancid jasper]

no carapace is the tanky one

[ripe obsidian]

For horde clear, yes

[pale prairie]

Ahhhh

[rancid jasper]

oh i thought they meant the armour quality

my bad

[ripe obsidian]

A lot of mixed horde enemies are a mix of flak and unarmored. I think dreg bruisers have a flak head, and scab bruisers are flak body and limbs

[pale prairie]

Yeah I get that I was thinking more that the assail and gun are for hordes but autogun I am assuming can handle carapace’s

[ripe obsidian]

Mauler head, scab rager body, crusher, and like one elbow of the reaper are carapace. Might be missing something.

Using IAG for horde clear will result in an empty gun before the first med station

I have learned this the hard way

Uncanny can also alleviate issues with Carapace, to some extent.

In the end, aside from some breakpoints that I do not know (like unarmored on Vet caxe to one-bop dreg bruisers (or that was the thing before havoc)), perks are preference. What are you using the weapon for, and which bonus would benefit you? There are some choices that are worse, like +infested, but many are usable. Usually some combination of flak, maniac, carapace, unyielding. Sometimes unarmored, sometimes crit chance. Etc.

[plucky flax]

Kinda weird net

[marble crater]

I can't believe Karien let that happen

[strong gulch]

Sorry about that game. Rolled the die and got bad play.

[plucky flax]

Karien let me down a lot.

[pale prairie]

Damn golden toughness can’t stop being a collectible

[ripe obsidian]

No apologies. >:(

You played fine

[pale prairie]

Woke up today and chose to let us down

[plucky flax]

You can't let me down because I'm used to being let down by karien.

[strong gulch]

I honestly can't tell if I'm well enough to play this game or not until it's very obvious. It's my bad.

[pale prairie]

Clearly with that one tech “get down Mr. president” Beans could have sacrificed themselves to the net instead

[ripe obsidian]

Is not your fault, and is just game. Goal is fun.

[pale prairie]

The dichotomy on this thread from “man I suck because I didn’t prevent something outside my control” to “bursters are bad gameplay” is astonishing

Yeah Beans just enjoy watching the OTHER psyker get netted

He’s not even Sanctioned. No loss

[ripe obsidian]

Is about attitude. Someone comes in with a shitty attitude and blaming everyone and everything else results in >:(. Someone apologizing for their play, for whatever reason, is different.

[pale prairie]

Yeah I mean just the very different outlooks of two very different players

“It’s my fault” vs “it’s the game’s fault”

[ripe obsidian]

I've also become a bit of an elitist, despite my best efforts, so when someone comes in complaining about Auric difficulty being unfair, it's like...

https://tenor.com/view/count-dooku-christopher-lee-star-wars-gif-23719747

Trying to be better about that. Havoc is not for everyone, and that is okay.

[rigid moss]

Who knew that being humble is socially more acceptable than blaming other things. 🙃

[strong gulch]

Except for blame the server. That's always correct.

[rigid moss]

True

And stealth-crushers.

Never my fault.

Never!

[pale prairie]

The whole game is about being unfair. Same logic as Dark souls and Elden Ring. They capitalize on players going “Nah I’d win”

[rigid moss]

Also, yes.

[strong gulch]

Also yeah I need to be better about being an elitist. Auric also isn't for everyone.

[pale prairie]

Yeah damn 300 ping servers… @deft stump

[pale prairie]

I feel I am good but the crazy good people on here help keep me humble lmao

[pale prairie]

Yeah I didn’t want to say anything but yesterday when you said to me:

“Git Gud you stupid Yank”

It definitely stung

[ripe obsidian]

I'm okay at the game. I usually won't be a burden. But I also rarely, if ever, carry.

[rigid moss]

I‘m decent enough to regularly be carried through aurics. That is good enough. I don’t have a group to push havoc so that’s the only measurement I have 🙃

[pale prairie]

Just do what I do. Keep slamming pubs havoc until you are ready to be done for the day

[ripe obsidian]

I don't push Havoc with a set group. Just jump into party finder pugs and see if the Heart of the Cards is on my side.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-ragequit-punchcomputer-agar-agario-gif-23509069

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, I need a 0% win rate to keep my rank

The power of being rank 40. I am immortal. Plot armored, even.

[strong gulch]

merch when?

[pale prairie]

When you havoc forged all your psykers

[strong gulch]

Just a title.

Which I don't use. So never.

[pale prairie]

Yeah I mean when all your wacky ass builds have beaten havoc 40

[strong gulch]

oh rip

actually never

[pale prairie]

I ain’t making expensive merch until the meme is gonna sell

[gray juniper]

Martydom psyker was mentioned. So here, go play this and die even faster @languid flicker https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f8403d7-5663-418b-aafe-cd8e230684d0/martyrdom-psyker

[pale prairie]

I can always count on you

[gray juniper]

I get a wholesome chuckle out of the reference

[ripe obsidian]

That sounds like speaking from experience

[gray juniper]

This is brave. The no mic pubs that don’t even contemplate team composition or coherency

There’s less complaining and more just doing the work

[rigid moss]

Sounds like „playing aurics is easier than playing heresy and damnation“ which is true in my experience

[round summit]

why is it called martyrdom, do u kill urself or what

[ripe obsidian]

I usually find like 25-35 to be a challenge as compared with 40. Haven't met any toxic players, or not many. More toxicity in Auric.

[gray juniper]

Because you’re probably not going to live playing it

[round summit]

ok i try

why is it using voidblast staff?

[pale prairie]

To knockdown groups of elites

[round summit]

ok lets go

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-a-lot-of-balls-kid-ballsy-courage-youre-brave-dj-pauly-d-gif-16762490

[gray juniper]

Because you’re never going to lay off the staff. You’re going to be edging peril in the most perilous way ever conceived

[pale prairie]

You are gonna be attempting to keep your peril high so that the crit chance and damage make your voidblast staff do tons of damage and set everything on fire. The wounds and Crystalline Will are for “Oops went too far/things are close to me I could try exploding”

[gray juniper]

Disclaimer; I haven’t even used it yet and am not sure if I could carry on it. Probability of death-high

[ripe obsidian]

Darktide managed to crack top 10 unique players on Steam in the US after the Arby update

Voidblast is good at pretty much any tier of play. Inferno arguably outpaces it in high Havoc. EK is good at any tier, but falls off a bit at high havoc, especially with certain modifiers. Voidstrike falls off a cliff in havoc, but is solid everywhere else.

[gray juniper]

It’s the 3 wounds that’s the tricky part. One wrong move and you’re feeling that result health & toughness very hard

[tulip kettle]

its just so hard to do

if you up its cleave then it becomes broken in not havoc

if you lower mass of enemies you buff everything else too

[pale prairie]

Yeah I beat havoc 40 before the void strike nerf with it and a bubble DD build alas no longer

[ripe obsidian]

Reduce the charge time from like 1.8 seconds down to 1.2 and Voidstrike is suddenly viable. Or make the explosion at the end actually do something. Or somehow make it cleave through more than 3 enemies

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike was nerfed before havoc came out afaik

[pale prairie]

Whoa

[ripe obsidian]

So you just suffered for no reason

[pale prairie]

But but

[strong gulch]

Please enjoy this anxiety inducer from the H40 game with Agent Chaos and Karien. Brains just giving up.
https://youtu.be/xUcSDzKlZRY

[gray juniper]

Probably just fair to give it high stagger that cleaves yea?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/my-life-is-a-lie-somebody'sgotta-get-stabbed-bottom-left-iasip-q-hindi-gif-8146495023529573733

[pale prairie]

Hmmm I wouldn’t be upset with any of these. I kinda like the idea of a big detonate once it reaches the end of its cleave

[tulip kettle]

i went "nooooo" out loud when you got netted

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmmmmmm you really think they’ll like me?

All I want is Darktide friends

🥺

[pale prairie]

The way my body reacted to this whole clip. I think I have ptsd

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is the slowest staff to charge, and since it's cleave-limited, you have to aim perfectly or get screwed. Can't properly clear hordes in Havoc, can't kill elites fast enough, projectile is slow and hard to pin on specials...

[tulip kettle]

i think all they need to do to make it viable is literally double its damage

make it plasma gun but space wizard

[pale prairie]

Why the fuck did that netter not get staggered??? It wasn’t rampaging right?

[gray juniper]

THERE IS NO GROUP HUG EMOJI OR ELSE I WOULD BE POSTING IT

[pale prairie]

Oh I am well aware of its limitations I switched to EK

[tulip kettle]

just missed

[ripe obsidian]

I'm just complaining for the sake of complaining. I really enjoy Voidstrike and I wish it didn't suck

[pale prairie]

I would love any amount of build variety when it comes to staves

[pale prairie]

That’s fucking criminal

[summer prairie]

Look who is carrying again in the clip

[pale prairie]

Yeah

I feel lied to by Karien

[strong gulch]

I would say I missed but I've been having issues lately with trappers not staggering even when I don't miss. So idk

[ripe obsidian]

Karien carryin'

[gray juniper]

Ngl @pale prairie it’s kinda fuct up how several non-regulars have tried to dunk on you and be outright rude when you’re one of the nicest people in the chat

[tulip kettle]

i mean

you either have to accept that you missed

or that the game decided you would get netted

[strong gulch]

[tulip kettle]

😄

[pale prairie]

Eh I was born into the internet, molded by it, by the time I went outside I was already a man…

By which I mean it doesn’t bother me. But appreciate you!

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/animation-movies-disney-pixar-quotes-gif-14842157

[pale prairie]

Man crazy when a cloud of warp fire to the face is no biggie

[strong gulch]

Mama don't care.

She got her bag and left.

Honestly, good for her.

[pale prairie]

Is it weird that I miss being hoisted on a stick like an object of worship?

Instead we are left like so much luggage on the ground. Like trash left out on collection day

[tulip kettle]

its better that you dont get dragged off into oblivion imo

although occasionally i just let the BoN take me where it will

[strong gulch]

It's was so funny tho. Just people on sticks. lol

[tulip kettle]

no other way out - let burgle eat me and hope it carries me somewhere safe

[pale prairie]

I don’t play with many gameplay mods other than scoreboard and UI stuff but man that AOE attack range warning is verrrrry tempting

[pale prairie]

Those deaths crack me up too

[tulip kettle]

you mean the spidey sense indicators?

[pale prairie]

Just watching my fetal position psyker get scooted around the map

[pale prairie]

That but also in the clip there is a big circle that flashes when the Ogryn goes to stomp. I assume that’s the attack range

[pale prairie]

Yep it somehow defies gravity and just hangs straight up despite my Warrior of Sigmar hammers and full plate mail

[ripe obsidian]

Until the Burgle carries you over a patch of flame and you get boiled in acid.

[tulip kettle]

oh that, theres no spidey sense in beans clip but the indicator is for the pox burster

[pale prairie]

Wait wait wait wait wait

We take damage from environmental WHILE INSIDE THE BURGLE?!?!

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[tulip kettle]

you can also be sniped inside the burgle.

[pale prairie]

Alright now I am pissed

[strong gulch]

[pale prairie]

Time to join the other side

“THIS GAME IS ASS”

[strong gulch]

You're not supposed to get attacked while in bon, but lol..

[tulip kettle]

you can also be hit while grabbed by mutants even though i dont think youre meant to be able to

[strong gulch]

Game does what it wants.

Feck the code.

[pale prairie]

I know that one. I also take flame damage while in the air. I have also been grabbed by a mute before landing from the throw of the first mutie

[gray juniper]

There’s the mortar and pestle combo of mutant and crusher

[tulip kettle]

in the air doesnt count

[tulip kettle]

this is the one i see fairly often

i love when mutie throws someone and they get sniped mid air

perfect wombo

[gray juniper]

A classic

[round summit]

ok i lost, but was a wild map

[pale prairie]

[pale prairie]

Hey surprised you get the yellow numbers with a meme build

Nice job

[round summit]

was prob like 8 bosses or something

[gray juniper]

My fuggin hero

[pale prairie]

How many wounds did you end up using haha?

[round summit]

2

i just use regular curios 😄

no wait, 1

cuz i died once cuz barrel exploeded me out of map

[pale prairie]

Daaaaaaaaamn

[pale prairie]

It’s a point in ogryn’s favor that he can tank those much better than psyker

[gray juniper]

Yea wound amount is optional but the true larp is taking more than necessary for pseudo zealot play cheesing

[tulip kettle]

i managed to get 1.4k dmg taken, 0 downs on zealot recently

[pale prairie]

The whole point is to hear your team asking increasingly worried questions over mic

[pale prairie]

Groooooss

[gray juniper]

I was trying something like this for several games then as soon as you hit until death it’s like the team made it illegal to hit anything

[gray juniper]

This is 120% true. Whole point of build is screencap luls

[tulip kettle]

i was using the dmg taken into cdr talent and just purposely eating overheads every time UD it was ready

[pale prairie]

“I want to see my name in lights… on the Subreddit underneath WHO THE FUCK IS THIS JOKER….”

[gray juniper]

Anti-stun + until death is a pretty unbeatable combo

Yesss. YESS

[tulip kettle]

i honestly dont rate thy wrath

its good with hammers and such

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/want-you-to-do-it-gif-20550570

[gray juniper]

It’s 50% for me

[tulip kettle]

but with duelling sword for example it has so little value

i think, im likely wrong, but i think it used to make it so gunners and reapers couldnt stun you either

[round summit]

back to inferno blaze build

[tulip kettle]

also i need to stop crutching on assail so hard on bubble knight

[gray juniper]

In the darkest of hours, the light will warm you

[pale prairie]

run TOWARDS THE FLAMER!?!

[gray juniper]

Thanks for reminder @pale prairie that I need to put some hours in on marty psyker

[tulip kettle]

no

no you dont

[pale prairie]

Make sure to DM all clips to Dom

[tulip kettle]

tbh if it actually seemed in any way viable i would play it

[gray juniper]

Plan is that if I haven’t used up at least two of the wounds by end level event I need to try extra hard

[pale prairie]

Then the training wheels REALLY COME OFF

[gray juniper]

We’re going for top damage every game or death

[pale prairie]

A true martyr for the cause

[tulip kettle]

usually both

[gray juniper]

Bingo

[pale prairie]

I want a talent that turns the peril explosion into the Ogryn grenade

Imagine the possibilities

[gray juniper]

Gonna bravely hold the line at the end of the hav dreyko run carelessly charge blasting

[pale prairie]

Your martyr build made me think of this.

https://youtube.com/shorts/0pZPCac3F2g?si=9rgmb3M7Odv7TQSq

[gray juniper]

By the title I was expecting a gun lol

[pale prairie]

“Benefits of a martyr without any of the downsides” lmao

[ripe obsidian]

Apropos of nothing, song:

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=6gyF_5GBMj0&si=uRasmv-kQ8ilyptV

I tried to play the saxophone part on bassoon. But I am bad at bassoon, and it did not go well.

The gliss in particular

[pale prairie]

All I know about brass and woodwinds is saxophone and Euphonium. Cause I had a friend who played euphonium and I thought it was funny

[ripe obsidian]

I played saxophone in elementary school, 25ish years ago. I started trying to learn bassoon a year or so ago. But I don't practice enough, and it's a very hard instrument to begin with, so my progress is glacial

I have gotten interesting reactions from music-y people when I tell them it's my first instrument. Mostly asking, "Why?" with concerned expressions

[tulip kettle]

apropos of something entirely unrelated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olxfstqAX2g

[cloud flint]

ive been getting really into psyker recently, how would you fellow siblings maximize inferno staff dmg? crit chance? im running blaze away and warp nexus rn

[visual phoenix]

just use staff as much as possible

there is no complicated stuff in it

[cloud flint]

gotcha

i love the primary attack stagger

[pale prairie]

#psyker-class message

[visual phoenix]

wildfire instead of warp battery is interesting

[pale prairie]

shrug talk to beans haha

[visual phoenix]

@strong gulch could you explain such a choice? interested

[cloud flint]

yeah me too

[pale prairie]

I am wondering if maybe shriek is getting used so often because of all the cooldown

So you’re not likely to get all the way up to 6 stacks since you’ll be shrieking so often?

[strong gulch]

Wildfire helps to extend range and can kick the the KF PC interaction off sooner.

If using your ability on cooldown before 5 WC stacks, then warp battery isn't doing as much.

[visual phoenix]

isnt doing much?

15% cdr and 8% warp based dmg?

[strong gulch]

More or less why, but if you're playing well, choose either. Wildfire is nice but it also is not gonna break a build.

[strong gulch]

If you don't need the extra CDR because you already have your ability back.

[visual phoenix]

alr got it

thanks :)

[tulip kettle]

also

[visual phoenix]

im in complete dissagrenement, but i can see the vision

[tulip kettle]

there is an interaction that significantly increases inferno dmg

which is stacking uncanny

[summer prairie]

with Uptime you can gauge a bit better how useful 6 stacks is, haven't ran it yet

[strong gulch]

uptime crashes my game

Everytime I try to bring up the charts, I get an out of memory crash.

[visual phoenix]

you can try memmory leak fix mod

[marble crater]

There are mods for your mods now?

[visual phoenix]

i have a lot of mods yet nothing crashed bcuz of them
maybe its something else

[visual phoenix]

its kinda old one

[strong gulch]

I'll try it.

[visual phoenix]

then i will suggers droping kin deflection over warp battery

I think you missing a Lot without it rly

[strong gulch]

I'm never dropping KD. That is a personal pref and skill issue.

on my part.

[strong gulch]

but I get it

[jovial juniper]

I still have yet to download that mod

[plucky flax]

Skissue with dodge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1401971755513417889/Desktop_2025.08.04_-_17.54.18.04.mp4?ex=68923771&is=6890e5f1&hm=ff76d1ee1120a3087b32c6cea80d99837dcb60a1a8c444b0ef1922101b99e7c5&

[visual phoenix]

im sorry for bringing this

but wildifre over battery is crazy 😅

[visual phoenix]

push attack gang

we do eat shit with it

[plucky flax]

The trapper was just cheating.

[weary idol]

NET!

[visual phoenix]

oh there was a net

[plucky flax]

Yeah there was a dodge too.

[visual phoenix]

you would still take a hit from cspawn ithink

[plucky flax]

Dodged into the net's path.

[cloud flint]

okay i put together a build with both warp batt and wild fire gonna try it out (i will prob die)

[plucky flax]

You won't.

You are our best and brightest.

[visual phoenix]

As much as you burning shit you wont

[plucky flax]

Shadow wizard gang.

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-wizard-money-gang-shadow-wizard-money-gang-gif-17925654032794413967

[visual phoenix]

Take a friend with chorus with you
Trust in him
Hold w

[cloud flint]

alright update

it works alright

but my teamates are dumb

[cloud flint]

YEAHHH

anyone here want to run auric storms? im not sure if im havoc ready yet

[marble crater]

The Darktide special

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-laugh-chuckles-chained-gif-10372970140411045812

[cloud flint]

lmaooo

[pale prairie]

Work

[cloud flint]

dont cook me too hard

ohh

[pale prairie]

Lmao

Pfff forget about your problems I am talking about mine 😉

[cloud flint]

the bane of my existence so far, same back in the day on vermintide 2

[cloud flint]

just leave, tell them you need to save the hive city

[pale prairie]

I dunno man vermintide 2 was so niche I felt like the masochists who played were generally good. At least at Cataclysm

[pale prairie]

but WHICH hive city?!?

[cloud flint]

id get people raging alot on cata pubs

theyd get poked once and leave like man..

[cloud flint]

the good one

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/wh40k-space-marine-gif-2789758811080158372

[cloud flint]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-space-marine2-wh40k-warhammer40k-titus-gif-24284565

[ripe obsidian]

Shadow wizard money gang, you peasant

[ripe obsidian]

Havoc below like 20-25 is easier than Auric Maelstrom, for what it's worth

Not counting other players, it only starts getting hard in the 30s

Counting other players...

It's harder pre-35, in my experience

[zinc comet]

just get karien she just carried me through a 40

[pale prairie]

Jealous

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-27446150

[visual phoenix]

can do if still needed

[gray juniper]

Just put up a post in the regional looking for group channels. People will come to play. The team quality will be much better. People won’t push bursters into you intentionally, they won’t redirect aggro onto you just because. If you still have a lot of difficulties, it probably means you need to change some play habits, work on fundamentals or change how you put builds and weapons together as a combo

[pale prairie]

Speak for yourself

[visual phoenix]

Or do that
I better be sleeping

[gray juniper]

I did manage to get auric storm survivor this way. I didn’t bother mentioning I was hoping for it, just tired of the poor composition in pubs and intentional leaving rotations

[cloud flint]

yeah after this one is done

[gray juniper]

What region are you playing in?

[cloud flint]

i only have to do the auric storm no one goes down penancve, was thinking the train would be the easiest if fatshark blesses us

[cloud flint]

eastern US

[visual phoenix]

Oh sorry definitely not playing

[gray juniper]

Oh that’s not too bad. I got it from just having a lucky roll on team mates who were competent and we trivialized a normal map

[tulip kettle]

what penance is it? do an auric mael with no downs on the team?

[gray juniper]

That’s good because cross continental ping with EU servers has seemed extra rough lately. It’s too choppy

So you see why beef had to tap out

[gray juniper]

Yea I think he’s going for golden storm medal

[visual phoenix]

The ASS one

[tulip kettle]

i got them all so long ago i forgot what they are lol

[visual phoenix]

Or as we call them
ASS and This Shit (true survivor)

[tulip kettle]

true survivor is at least semi legit even now

THOUGH

[strong gulch]

In your defense, the penance name and reward name are often different.

[tulip kettle]

i know one guy who got it by leaving 2 mins in then rejoining at the end

[visual phoenix]

It still a thing since the reconnect thingy starts

Nothing changed with some minor exceptions

[pale prairie]

[visual phoenix]

But its super easy ones you start comp rolling

[plucky flax]

Sleep well sweet prince

Dream of beef sandwich

[visual phoenix]

You mean like
In a gay way?

[plucky flax]

Its not gay if you say no homo

[visual phoenix]

20$ is 20$

[cloud flint]

alright my lobby is open to any here

b4 i make a lfg

3880427673 auric storms

its up

siblings

[vestal trench]

i'd have gotten myself killed out of spite

[paper oriole]

Do they call you a tennis player after playing one game or do they call you a runner after running once?

Should they then force call you gay after kissing your homies once?

[candid temple]

You only kiss your homies once?

https://tenor.com/view/john-krasinski-oh-no-shame-on-you-nah-fail-gif-15679323

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/real-homies-kiss-gif-6403529491074209517

[paper oriole]

Once per minute 😎🥰

[candid temple]

[gray juniper]

Have you heard the joke about Sheamus the bridge builder?

[paper oriole]

I can’t recall it

[gray juniper]

Irish American want to get in touch with his roots. So he goes to Dublin to get a feel for Ireland. He’s off the plane a thinks to himself “what’s the best place to go to get to know real Ireland?” So he thinks to himself it’s a bar where he can find real Irish whiskey and dancing.

So he goes to the bar. He sees the bar tender and tries to order a drink. He starts to ask about what makes someone Irish, but before he can finish the bartender interrupts him;

"You see this bar laddy? I built this bar with me own two hands. I cut down the trees and made the lumber myself. I worked in the day and night, through the wind and cold, but do they call me Sheamus the bar builder? NO!”

The American starts again to ask, but the bartender continues on; “Do you see that stone wall out there? I built that wall with me own two hands. I carried each stone, I made the mortar meself, so that me children and their children’s children will have that wall, but do they call me Sheamus the wall builder? NO!”

The American is starting to get impatient and tried to interrupt again but the bartender talks over him loudly;

"Do ya see that pier out there laddy? I built that pier with me own two hands, I drove each stake deep into ground so that it would last a lifetime. So that me children, and me children’s children will have it for generations. But do they call me Sheamus the pier builder? NO!”

"BUT YA FOCK ONE GOAT..!”

[paper oriole]

He is correct 😆

People will be so judgmental 🙄

[strong gulch]

Karien and clutching.

[pale prairie]

Yeah “But ya clutch ONE TIME…”

[ripe obsidian]

Nothing more natural than Karien carryin'

[pale prairie]

@deft stump you’ve been outed by potato. They posted footage where you are clearly last one standing soloing a boss

[paper oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-gif-25802781

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/alderiate-clutch-lol-gamer-game-gif-15881189

[upper sun]

one pre bed game whos down?

[cloud flint]

i just did it with some legends from lfg

[gray juniper]

That’s good to hear

[cloud flint]

i feel like a winner

i didnt do too bad dps wise either

i like wild fire talent

lots oif burnin

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire is good.

Some people dislike it.

[cloud flint]

i feel like it helps the team out

[ripe obsidian]

It's a contentious talent

[cloud flint]

hahha i see

[ripe obsidian]

I use it on my Inferno builds. I don't recall if I use it anywhere else

[lavish bay]

homie kissin needs more CDR.

[cloud flint]

yeah im using inferno

i want a VB staff build

i see lots of siblings using it

over inferno

[ripe obsidian]

Both are good. Inferno scales a bit better into Havoc due to enemy density.

The CC of Voidblast is unmatched, and the damage output is good

Just gotta be careful with Voidblast not to screw over melee teammates. They need enemies to hit for their talents

[strong gulch]

@ripe obsidian Blight spreads is back.

[ripe obsidian]

Is that 'the floor is corruption'?

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Dudes die make the floor corruption lava.

Sad times

[cloud flint]

Gotcha I will look up some vids on it and see how I perform in some storm missions with it

[gray juniper]

There’s a no lifer in here that was trying to rudely humble brag an a havoc 40 regular using this as a debate point. I won’t name names but the other gentleman is very nice and truly humble

It serves its purpose but it’s not “useless” as some would specifically say

[wispy bay]

I did a H35 blight yesterday, not too bad.

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/am-i-have-no-mouth-and-i-must-scream-am-ihnmaims-am-hate-hate-speech-gif-1392574611171398983

[cloud flint]

I see, I’m open to learn tho. If my build isn’t helpful I’ll change it

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire is a good talent. It not OP, but it's not useless. It has a few purposes.

[cloud flint]

[ripe obsidian]

1. Spreads Soulblaze for In Fire Reborn stacks.
2. Gets early stacks on enemies so your Soulblaze scales faster when you focus on them.
3. Can pop kinetic flayer if it spreads to an elite or special.
4. Chip damage on anything it touches, which is usually useful.

Probably more things beyond that

Points 1 and 2 are the biggest.

[cloud flint]

[gray juniper]

I use it for fast bubble regeneration

[ripe obsidian]

This is how Soulblaze scales. 4 stacks on its own is negligible, but it's 4 stacks fewer to stack manually, which means faster damage.

[cloud flint]

God I am pampered by my bubble

[strong gulch]

Yeah, a large part of left side psyker's kit is snowballing SB stacks and things that interact with it.

[cloud flint]

We need psyker stickers

[gray juniper]

Btw does the melee blessing Superiority count for elite kills in totality or just on the melee weapon?

[ripe obsidian]

I see someone in an H40 lobby using +crit damage on a Voidstrike staff. I am disgusted.

[strong gulch]

Faster and more substantial snowballing is good.

[ripe obsidian]

Also using +1 wound curio

[strong gulch]

But there also the question of of what would you take instead.

[gray juniper]

we do have psyker emojis

[strong gulch]

Though wildfire isn't directly chosen for its damage, it is a damage boost.

For just playing the game.

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1316462732999921735/elmopsyker.gif

How it feels to be left side psyker

[cloud flint]

if I ever would scroll down and use my eyeballs 🤣

[ripe obsidian]

@nocturne dust Can you post the version of this without the bubble? I needs it.

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[cloud flint]

That is me and my wild fire

[gray juniper]

Actually… do any out of: slaughterer, superiority, executor or shred perc on non-melee hits or kills?

[ripe obsidian]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3286161222

I do not know the answer. This list should.

[gray juniper]

Thanks

That’s another link that’ll stay open in my browser

[ripe obsidian]

All of Kuli's guides are invaluable

[strong gulch]

Why aren't they pinned? At the psyker page??

[ripe obsidian]

I can ask.

[strong gulch]

kk. IDK if there is a particular reason or not.

We reference Kuli enough that the info should be pinned.

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, I will try again.

It did not like that I made hyperlinks