#psyker-class

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weary idol
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she's the blade of miquella

gray juniper
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Silent hill was peak horror tbh

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It was better the less you understood even

deft stump
gray juniper
deft stump
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Mhm. Just something wrong vibes.

radiant frigate
spice oar
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Niche question

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Anyone found a use for staff special?

verbal thistle
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yes

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challenge run

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staff bash only

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sadly we never finished a run

spice oar
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The only thing I’ve realised is that transfer peril procs on it

ripe obsidian
spice oar
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So I guess if you have ragers/maulers and you are maxed you could use that…

spice oar
verbal thistle
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yes

pale prairie
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How about ravenholm? First time I had ever been assaulted by screaming not pixelated zombies

ripe obsidian
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Ravenholm hit me harder when I wasn't being attacked

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Spooky atmosphere

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Same as haunted houses. I am much more tense when nothing is happening. When the monsters come out, it's mostly eh

ripe obsidian
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Half Life 2 is the game

gray juniper
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Ah ok

pale prairie
proper osprey
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It’s alright but I’d like some skills moved around or combined

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It’s not like vet or zealots lol

pale prairie
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The long slow wait for the funicular to escape

proper osprey
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Vet and zealot are very rigid

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Psykers can be as well

pale prairie
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That may be half life 1 looking closer

pale prairie
proper osprey
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@marble crater I was going to reach out and ask is there a way to make the dot on vb better or is shrike and pc the only way?

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How would rendering shockwave affect it?

jovial juniper
proper osprey
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It also stuns ragers

spice oar
jovial juniper
jovial juniper
spice oar
jovial juniper
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Don't remember if it has to be fully charged though

spice oar
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I thought only thunderhammer/ogryn could manage that ngl

marble crater
proper osprey
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Guh

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I know the sb only stacks to 6

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From blazing spirit

marble crater
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Yeah, but that's enough to kill trash and if you shriek then you are at 12 or more realistically 10, hit an elite with voidblast and 10 stacks it dies and now things around have 13 stacks and it keeps going with the chain reaction

cedar pagoda
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how are my perks and blessings?

plucky flax
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Seems op

haughty star
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Hello psoyker

upper sun
# cedar pagoda how are my perks and blessings?

not great try something like carapace, maniac and uncanny strike with deflector/unstable power/executor/slaughter
also the sword base itself isnt the best look for a base with a maximum potential of 60 warp resisyt

haughty star
cedar pagoda
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I find myself stacking crits after eachother

haughty star
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You dont want to use special on deimos

upper sun
haughty star
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Special is basically the same damage as h2 and takes more time to get there

cedar pagoda
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honestly thought they where skins

haughty star
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Illisi is better for generalistic horde clear

cedar pagoda
strong gulch
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Blazing spirit on staff only goes up to 6 SB stacks. Blazing spirit on melee goes up to 12 SB stacks.

cedar pagoda
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is blazing spirit even good?

haughty star
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Not really

brazen rampart
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(deimos isn't even the best 1h force sword now that obscurus has that lovely hidden l3)

strong gulch
upper sun
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you'd want something like this

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NO FROG STOP TYPING

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STOP NOW

brazen rampart
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Clad, I don't think carapace damage changes any breakpoints against maulers or crushers...

cedar pagoda
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imma be honestly I like playing gun psyker so I treat my sword as a secondary

brazen rampart
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(because it doesn't)

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( :) )

upper sun
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carapace unyielding both are fine

brazen rampart
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Maybe it does with deimos, actually.

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I dont use deimos anymore.

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Honestly couldn't tell ya.

strong gulch
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IDK off the top of my head, but also what game mode? Havoc vs auric etc

brazen rampart
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I think I use carapace on my obscurus? I don't remember, it's been a minute since I've played psyker. Been mainly playing arby and deranged vet builds.

cedar pagoda
strong gulch
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Orange crusher times lmao

cedar pagoda
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I unironically find carpace to be so useless

brazen rampart
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Well, if it does change a crusher or mauler breakpoint, then it's worth taking, as long as you aren't sacrificing a different breakpoint for it.

brazen rampart
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Because crushers and maulers are going to be what you engage in melee with most of the time.

upper sun
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I think it does but its really hard to test it on crushers because H2 nukes them from reality into another room

brazen rampart
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Yeah? Crushers?

cedar pagoda
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the shards seem to do the job

brazen rampart
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And maulers, the dudes with the welding masks and chain axes.

weary idol
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why does the imperium make welding masks out of carapace

cedar pagoda
brazen rampart
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Shards literally can't kill them...

weary idol
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assail does not kill maulers

cedar pagoda
weary idol
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even if you hit them in the torso with every shard it takes like 6 of the fuckin' things

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and if you hit them in the head it does 20 damage

cedar pagoda
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my bad I ment the special attack

weary idol
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probably less

brazen rampart
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Yeah you don't use the special attack on either obscurus or deimos.

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Only on illisi.

deft stump
cedar pagoda
brazen rampart
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Like, they're functional, only to build uncanny strike, but otherwise they are not faster than just hitting the thing you're attacking a second time.

cedar pagoda
brazen rampart
upper sun
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AAAAA can i PLEASE get a good maelstrom

brazen rampart
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You've got maniac on your sword if it's built right.

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1shotting a flamer with deimos l1 is not hard.

upper sun
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ye maniac is for one tapping muties

cedar pagoda
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oh yeah btw whats rending?

brazen rampart
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Rending is a flat increase to your armor damage modifiers across the board.

weary idol
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like most specialists do

brazen rampart
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Infested and unarmored armors always take 100% damage, everything else takes less in varying measures.

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Rending is mainly used to increase carapace damage.

cedar pagoda
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eh id pass on it then

brazen rampart
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Most weapons have a .2 or .3ish adm vs carapace.

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Uncanny strike can boost it to beyond 100% damage dealt.

rigid iris
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why

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do youhave so many

brazen rampart
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Iirc it's like every 4% rending overflow is 1% damage bonus.

ornate hamlet
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Aye

brazen rampart
deft stump
brazen rampart
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Anyway rending is op asf and you shouldn't pass on it if you can take it.

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The only exception is that one heavy sword blessing.

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That one is terrible.

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Counterintuitive to the function of rending.

deft stump
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L1 on Deimos is funni.

cedar pagoda
# cedar pagoda

ok here me out wont +10 crit hit damage have nice synergy blood thirsty in stead of me going for +25 maniac

brazen rampart
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Let's say you do 100 damage normally, but a crit will increase your damage to 150.

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Crit damage only affects the bonus 50.

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So your 10% bonus crit damage boosts it from 150 to 155.

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Weakspot damage perk works the exact same way.

raven mountain
upper sun
upper sun
ripe obsidian
brazen rampart
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Like I've got 3 combat axes on each class, but they're all 3 a different mark.

weary idol
static vessel
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Is this good

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It ain't worth it is it?

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Unless you're literally in the midst of a fire fight, which you SHOULD NEVER BE as a psyker.

weary idol
static vessel
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By that I mean out in the open

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with no cover

weary idol
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empathic evasion is widely considered one of the best defensive talents in the game

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let alone on Psyker's squishy ass

analog agate
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It is really good with inferno staff. And gun psyker

static vessel
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Gotcha

weary idol
static vessel
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gotcha

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Is it worth it when you're not using smite

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My other option is uh

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Right now, to me the former feels like more of a debuff than a benefit.

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What is a "Warp Charge" Is that when your staff is fully charged?

waxen pollen
static vessel
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Well smite generates a lot of peril, but it's instantly lowered when you reach 100%

jovial juniper
weary idol
static vessel
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do you mean this

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I'm just trying to understand whar warp charge does

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unless I didn't read closely enough..

weary idol
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You spend them when you use your ability to give it a shorter cooldown

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and the keystone modifiers makes it do more things

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like give damage, peril resist, or toughness regen

ripe obsidian
brazen rampart
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Any crit, including melee and assail crits, count to proccing EE.

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EE allows you to hold the trigger down with true aim with guns and not take damage. (assuming you're hitting headshots ofc)

static vessel
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Should I get battle Meditation? Sounds super good on paper so I don't need to Quell all the time.

weary idol
weary idol
waxen pollen
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being at high peril is good thoughh

static vessel
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Oh yeah true

brazen rampart
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What build are you evn going for?

weary idol
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If you're playing gun psyker "By Crack of Bone" is very good though

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For infinite Scrier's Gaze

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And Assail spam at max peril

brazen rampart
ripe obsidian
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I use BM on one Inferno build, but it's kinda iffy even then

brazen rampart
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But tranq through slaughter also depends on what gun you're using.

weary idol
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I don't use that one personally, but yes it is also good

static vessel
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Which ona deez 2 should I get

ripe obsidian
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Fire

weary idol
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creeping flames is directly better

ripe obsidian
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Never the other one

brazen rampart
weary idol
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The other one is literally 25 damage short of killing a poxwalker

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at MAXIMUM PERIL

brazen rampart
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Especially now that dot's can proc kinetic flayer.

weary idol
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it's bad

static vessel
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K I'm gonna grab a devil sword now

weary idol
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a terminal error

brazen rampart
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Dclaw is not great.

jovial juniper
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Eh funny KD parry memes

brazen rampart
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It needs a lot in the way of damage and finesse boosts.

static vessel
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:(

brazen rampart
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If you go right side you can do dclaw just fine.

jovial juniper
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Do the funny KD parry memes

brazen rampart
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But left side is ill advised.

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And middle is just... bleh.

static vessel
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Yeah That's the pure reason I want dsword

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I'm gaming for fun here!

verbal thistle
static vessel
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dumpstat mobyeah?

upper sun
brazen rampart
brazen rampart
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Glad you noticed.

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:)

upper sun
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broken clock

weary idol
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which in my mind puts it above chainsword that still feels bad even on gun psyker

brazen rampart
upper sun
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NAME THEM

waxen pollen
brazen rampart
# upper sun NAME THEM

Right now, earlier in zeal chat when I said pen flames only allows you to kill crushers and doesn't provide any better ttk vs a damage buff blessing, and earlier in arby chat when I said that forceful is the best keystone.

brazen rampart
ripe obsidian
deft stump
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Also, impact>>>damage when you have so much ping and nothing seems to apply but stagger.

waxen pollen
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eo would be better if it wasnt buggeddd

brazen rampart
plucky flax
brazen rampart
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Forceful has free damage, damage resistance, diet twbs, attack speed, and strength on ability use.

waxen pollen
brazen rampart
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EO doesn't work and TW sucks because of its nature of requiring a lot of ammo to be good.

deft stump
weary idol
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ammo regen

waxen pollen
weary idol
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make it give you an ammo tin's worth of ammo when you exhaust all ranged specialist stacks

plucky flax
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Wall hax whatthefuck_heresy

brazen rampart
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Baked in selfish survivalist for TW.

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But like, at half effectiveness.

waxen pollen
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lone wolf makes me snoozee

brazen rampart
deft stump
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Right.

upper sun
waxen pollen
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right

deft stump
static vessel
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Any Specific build I should have for uh voidblast staff? I mean the one where you blast em off the floor

brazen rampart
static vessel
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Wish this game was written more distinctly.

upper sun
brazen rampart
upper sun
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🚬 me when i try to play middle or left keystones on arby 😭

waxen pollen
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left is goooddddd

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sigh..

static vessel
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I need better curios

upper sun
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left doesnt work 😭

plucky flax
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The 10% damage and moves peed on pounce is op

waxen pollen
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it works .

plucky flax
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The dog is pouncing constantly

static vessel
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Okay so I'm going to be making all of my curious the same thing. What should 3 of the perks be?

waxen pollen
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it doesnt work completely but it works

plucky flax
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The right one is tankier left one is more damage

static vessel
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20% resistance against gunners good yeah?

waxen pollen
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si

static vessel
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I'm gonna do snipers next

waxen pollen
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pretty sure every player on this game runs at least two of them

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the third only gives what, like 8% ?

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i dont remember ,,

weary idol
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I only run one

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Used to not run any

plucky flax
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I dont run any

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On psyker

jovial juniper
plucky flax
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But i am veri noob

jovial juniper
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With 200 HP you can survive 2 shots

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It takes sniper's 122 damage and reduces it to ~98

static vessel
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voidstrike is when you shoot orbs of death yeah?

jovial juniper
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The bowling ball

waxen pollen
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pebbles

static vessel
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gotcha

spice oar
spice oar
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It isn’t 60%??

weary idol
waxen pollen
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it gives you less eith each resistance stacked yeah i just dont remember the numbers

spice oar
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Oh ffs

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What about corruption resistance?

weary idol
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Off the top of my head it's 20-32-40%

static vessel
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I should do the math on how much exp a weapon gives with its rarity so I stop guessing.

waxen pollen
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who runs corruption resistance .

spice oar
weary idol
waxen pollen
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do people actually run that

weary idol
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Or actually going down instead of outright dying to poxwalkers when you get hit by a disabler

waxen pollen
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i wasnt aware ..

weary idol
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Because if you don't have corruption resistance in Havoc

spice oar
weary idol
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Getting trappered into a poxwalker horde will outright kill you

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No downs

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Just dead

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Becasue they deal corruption on hit

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And will chew through your first wound with it before yo udie

waxen pollen
static vessel
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Do I kill everyone

bright summit
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did they ever fix the warp unbound bug where theres a small window you can instantly explode after scriers expires

waxen pollen
strong gulch
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It's not fecked anymore.

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AND

bright summit
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ok yeah thats what i assumed, i just can't pinpoint when they did it

strong gulch
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SG now quells 50% like shriek and can save you from exploding.

bright summit
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its pretty neat

strong gulch
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I think it was when quell cancel got nerfed.

static vessel
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How my psychiarist look

spice oar
static vessel
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Yipeee

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I love my psykers personality

raven mountain
spice oar
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Loner 💯

static vessel
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She is pretty mentally broken but I like her

spice oar
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It’s either male loner or female seer

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Rest don’t compare

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INCOMPARABLE even

strong gulch
spice oar
brazen rampart
raven mountain
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And from a design space, now both Scrier's and Venting Shriek cleanse 50% peril.

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Like shit, at this point, make bubble clear 50% peril.

spice oar
bright summit
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scriers also has 100% overheat prevention and uptime if you take warp charges with it its quite fun

raven mountain
dull scroll
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warp charge scarier can apparently result in almost 100% warp unbound up time

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extremely memeable

spice oar
strong gulch
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IDK how double wall factors in, but many of us have been like just make all of the abilities quell and be able to save you.

bright summit
strong gulch
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Rip bubble night peril gent tho

raven mountain
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Though what are you running that wants super infinite peril? Maybe EK? The other staffs don't feel too bad.

bright summit
spice oar
bright summit
raven mountain
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I also kinda miss when smite nodes interacted with EK.

analog agate
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Yep. I tried it after dom was talking about his build

strong gulch
raven mountain
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Like, extra chaining. Adding another stun+dot would be cool, and making them count for 10% enfeeble would be fun.

analog agate
# strong gulch How'd it go?

It is good! Giving scriers that cool down is hilariously stupid, imo. BUT, warp charges are still a better meta build for EK

spice oar
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Oh wait YEAH I remember

raven mountain
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And Charged Strike making the struck enemy into a tesla coil that zaps nearby enemies would be fun, and I bet it would still be a hyper niche pick.

analog agate
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It is definitely a solid alt build. Oh, and I meant venting shriek is better. He uses warp charges with SG

raven mountain
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But if it did, I'd totally run it on some meme melee soulblaze/tesla coil setup.

spice oar
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Kind of unfair since infernus gets all the inate interaction with soulblaze talents

bright summit
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purge staff isn't real

spice oar
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Or purge I mean

raven mountain
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I adore purge staff—probably my favorite ranged weapon on psyker—but man, there's only so much I can play it and still have fun.

spice oar
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It’s genuinely really good?

raven mountain
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And I have everything enabled that can feed me dopamine for dots, scoreboard, dot manager, healthbars.

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It's carried by the fgs.

static vessel
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Hahaha, I had to disable Scoreboard because it affected my self esteem

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Not good!

spice oar
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But poke around and see what other weapons can work too

raven mountain
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There is so little that you aren't already murdering with heavy attacks on the FGS that can actually benefit from the soulblaze.

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Oh, I have memed around with other weapons.

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I was like, surely, 10% damage illisi would force the soulblaze stacking to be good, especially with all that added crit and scriers!

spice oar
raven mountain
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This weapon reassured me that Blazing Spirit is basically copium at all levels.

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Less damage = more hits = more soulblaze

spice oar
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The theory is correct but like cmon man 😭

raven mountain
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And even with this, PC, Wildfire, scrier's for more crit, and all that shit, I couldn't make the soulblaze come even close to what the melee was doing.

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I did my best to make the meme a dream.

strong gulch
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Super dumped damage illisi is the way to go for blazing spirit melee. That's how bad it is. 😭

spice oar
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Knife, charged strike, and soul blaze

raven mountain
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We're also talking like Souldrinker and Perfect Timing and shit.

spice oar
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Memey but would probably be decent

raven mountain
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I run knife and fgs almost exclusively. Everything else is basically a meme for me.

spice oar
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Try the Tac axe trust

strong gulch
raven mountain
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I have.

spice oar
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😔

raven mountain
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It's nowhere near as satisfying as those two.

static vessel
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Ok yeah the devil sword isn't much outside of a meme weapon

spice oar
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Each to their own

static vessel
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testing it out in meat grinder

spice oar
static vessel
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This is disappointing.

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Nope

spice oar
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The parry counts as a block

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Infinite parries

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Very good for defensive builds imo

wispy bay
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Dsword can solo captain and sword lt.

raven mountain
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I'd dump Scrier's DR and the 15 toughness so I could get PC.

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Just for more fire.

bright summit
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dclaw staff is pretty funny and ok aside from mobility

wispy bay
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Parry damage is pretty good.

static vessel
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is that a talent

spice oar
static vessel
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where is it in the tree

wispy bay
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Bottom right

spice oar
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Lower right side, above dosrupt destiny

raven mountain
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Kinetic Deflection, right?

wispy bay
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Dclaw parry carried me through H40.

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You can parry crusher overhead.

spice oar
raven mountain
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Yeah. As long as you don't need your melee weapon to directly deal with something, you're basically looking at mobility and utility. So knife/dueling sword for mobility, force sword/dclaw for utility.

static vessel
raven mountain
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I mostly use it for referencing a name since those fly out of my brain permanently and constantly.

spice oar
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One melee weapon that I can’t find fun no matter what is the combat axe ngl

static vessel
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Anyway uh

wispy bay
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If I run inferno, I don't use my melee much beside fighting bosses and crushers.

raven mountain
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And for a screenshot of builds I'm trying to tell people to run.

static vessel
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What was I going to say

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I'll be using dueling sword then :P

raven mountain
bright summit
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wait it didn't embed

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rip

spice oar
static vessel
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Ah

bright summit
raven mountain
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It chews through hordes like insanely well, and it also has solid damage and is surprisingly good into unyielding, which I often am coming up with solutions for on psyker.

static vessel
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How should I be using voidblast staff? Seems like it's a pocket stagger tool.

raven mountain
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Well, yeah. Knife is more fun.

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Voidblast destroys all AND is a pocket stagger tool.

spice oar
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DO NOT use it on monstrosities it’s not good for dmg there

wispy bay
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CAxe is better with Vet and zealot.

raven mountain
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If you take fire+warp nexus, you basically incinerate huge aoes every blast or two. Fantastic clear, and the blast itself puts all armor on their ass and is always good damage.

strong gulch
spice oar
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Two main ways of building voidblast

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Warpflurry+ that brittleness blessing

raven mountain
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The rending version is also fantastic, but I like fire.

spice oar
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Blazing spirit + warp nexus

raven mountain
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I still do it, too, but does the quell cancel still actually do anything after it got nerfed?

spice oar
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Don’t think so

ripe obsidian
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@strong gulch I need 4 more fart carapace missions, if you're feeling any better

strong gulch
wispy bay
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This event sucks... People really don't know how to fight carapace enemies.

raven mountain
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Nope. And they don't realize they can't crutch guns either.

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So many gunluggers doing absolutely no damage while unloading the whole mission. Same with bolter crutchers.

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
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Wait, I just posted a vid of me destroying crushers. LMAO

I debunked myself.

raven mountain
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I gotta say though, I'm going to miss shriek with EK. It's my way of just dealing with horde without having to deal with horde.

prime elk
raven mountain
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Might have to actually pull out a sword or something if they get too close.

raven mountain
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Every other time I load into a rotten histg.

prime elk
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yeah i keep seeing people unload bolter mags into infected crushers and doing barely anything

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you would think they would figure it out after the first 8 times

wispy bay
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I failed to clutch several times because I got tired from the carapace waves.

brazen rampart
weary idol
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and the worst part is they wouldn't need that ammo

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if they'd just use their fucking knife to kill the crusher

nocturne dust
wispy bay
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Also using wound curio while staying in the smoke...

nocturne dust
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no bright healthbar to see the beeg not-damage 😔

weary idol
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surely you could intuit that you are not doing damage

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by the enemy not being dead

nocturne dust
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monkeh brain

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must be they're not dead because of hit lag/beeg healthbar/not enough boolet

deft stump
paper oriole
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😵‍💫

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😷

deft stump
paper oriole
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Exercise in futility

static vessel
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Why is this a blessing on a staff.

strong gulch
static vessel
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is showstopper good

weary idol
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no sadly

static vessel
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bruh

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whatre good blessings for the voidstrike staff

weary idol
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surge warp nexus

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surge makes the bowling ball fire twice

strong gulch
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@ripe obsidian look what came back to.

ripe obsidian
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Fine felines, both

vernal temple
gray juniper
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When cats love each other it’s a beautiful thing

long wharf
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I've thought about getting a second cat, but I have no idea how my Chloe would react to another cat around her human

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I don't want her behavior to change

strong gulch
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If you're cat is happy and so are you, then just Chloe is probably good enough.

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Generally 2 cats is better than 1, but that doesn't mean for everyone.

long wharf
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yeah, when I got Chloe, she was a lone cat

strong gulch
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Also oof. I had to hit a dog 3 times in that last game before the game registered any of it.

wispy bay
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The cats might not like each other at first, but they will learn.

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A house cat is a social animal, they might not know it because of long isolation with its species.

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Unless you are jealous that your old cat prefers a new cat over you.

strong gulch
#

Just don't get 5 cats and end up being the favorite person / critter for all of them.

pale prairie
#

Where are the Chaos Cats

wispy bay
#

Lurking in the dark

pale prairie
#

New enemy has arrived

strong gulch
strong gulch
#

Classic

pale prairie
#

They don’t have bones

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Also is that fucking snow?

strong gulch
#

These are from winter.

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Wait. I could have claimed to be from Chile or something.

pale prairie
strong gulch
pale prairie
#

Alright I need to look into some kind of bot that tracks emoji use over a year like Spotify

#

Does a recap and stuff

strong gulch
pale prairie
#

I can’t even emoji back because they aren’t even posting. I mean a picture is worth a thousand words but…

#

Also major respect to you @deft stump cause I had forgotten how fucking difficult heresy clutches are

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These people don’t heal themselves or pick up ammo and then run away from me and I am too Ogryn to catch up

strong gulch
#

Need a teammate who runs in circles.

pale prairie
#

Or just permanently dead

#

I am starting to understand the purpose of wounds curios outside meme builds

#

“Please heal”

“No doing a challenge”

fucking dies

strong gulch
#

Healed when picked up. chadgryn

neat dome
#

im trying to master the blazed greatsword. What is a good build to use with this weapon?

woeful sigil
#

I'm tired of arbitrators joining my havoc, dying and quitting before I even pass the first area

neat dome
#

thats every class... actually... class has nothing to do with that

woeful sigil
ornate hamlet
#

dog

long wharf
#

for the better, that is

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cats are social, as nearly all mammals are, but they can also be tempermental

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cats domesticated themselves

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and unlike dogs, humans have not successful bred obedience into them

pine oyster
#

this possible with the other mark?

jovial juniper
#

Yes

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Except your stab comes right after the Push Attack

gray juniper
wispy bay
long wharf
#

same

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but that's also why I don't want to risk having my cat's behavior change

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I love her the way she is

pale prairie
#

I am but a slave in my own home

wispy bay
ornate hamlet
#

One of the cats here is a pain in the ass

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Keeps meowing to get inside the house, but once inside won't stop trying to lick plates and bite trash bags

long wharf
neat dome
#

guess im not use to the blaze greatsword. feels kinda weak

strong gulch
#

FGS is strong without buffs and is very strong with them.

neat dome
#

like i said. guess im not use to it.

woeful sigil
neat dome
woeful sigil
weary idol
#

It is absurdly powerful and versatile

neat dome
#

and i have no clue how to use it because ive never learned this class. =/

weary idol
#

It's simple enough

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Both marks can get away with spamming light attacks for horde clear and heavies for single target

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and you have the unique special that builds up as you kill enemies

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1 charge kills fodder enemies such as poxwalkers and groanersd

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2 charges kills weaker elites and cripples bigger ones

neat dome
#

for me. the weapon falls short on anything with armor.

strong gulch
#

I think what Bunnii is saying us FGS6 with shred and unstable power blessings. Perks would be cara + unyielding. There is a talents on the right side called Warp Splitting that increases cleave with peril. It is selected in the build I sent you.

weary idol
#

But with Scrier's Gaze and DD up it's a semi consistent 2 shot into Crushers and Maulers

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also capable of one shotting Maulers

neat dome
#

nice

strong gulch
#

Most here preferer FGS6 vs FGS8, but both are good and are more or less comparable. Different movesets and other slight differences.

Use the one that makes more sense to you.

woeful sigil
#

I kill crushers in 2 - 3 hits

neat dome
#

im basically full right side of the tree right now. just did a match and i was hitting like a wet noodle on anything with armor

woeful sigil
#

Also if you're an assail build, having that perk that gives you non warp damage on warp attack kill can also help you 1 shot stuff after clearing a crowd

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I forgot the name

neat dome
#

so mcuh to keep track off though. i can hardly tell what buffs are even on

verbal thistle
#

Best thing to do is just dont

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Just dodge and attack

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I play the game with buff bar turned off

woeful sigil
weary idol
#

Since unmodded UI has a buff limit of 10

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So key buffs can sometimes just...not appear

neat dome
#

ah. okay

woeful sigil
weary idol
#

Yeah lol

woeful sigil
#

Ffs

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I was wondering why I would get 3 all at once

proper osprey
#

I love seeing the kill feed break on a fully charged fgs slash

woeful sigil
#

I melee until I see purple perk then switch to assail

proper osprey
#

Makes me wet

pale prairie
proper osprey
#

This is how it feels ^

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I shake violently then I lock in again

woeful sigil
strong gulch
proper osprey
woeful sigil
proper osprey
#

Try dis

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Just use the fgs

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I do flak unyielding wrath shred

weary idol
#

I do the same but cara/unyielding instead

woeful sigil
ornate hamlet
pale prairie
#

Really love using the staff instead of gun

proper osprey
proper osprey
weary idol
#

and lets me go back and look at old missions

prime elk
#

power di 🤮

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buggy as shit whenever i used it

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love me good ol scoreboard

woeful sigil
proper osprey
#

Toughness passive warp quell is still good

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And gain with expend

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Melee psyker is the weakest and strongest psyker

woeful sigil
#

I took off my toughness damage reduction scaling with peril cause I realised Empathetic evasion makes me immune to gunners

proper osprey
woeful sigil
#

I usually got assail hitting people further away

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before I'm caught out in the open

proper osprey
#

And what happens if you’re out of assail

pale prairie
woeful sigil
#

I got 3 empower psionics

proper osprey
#

Tbh I dropped the fgs for tac axe even though I love the fgs

deft stump
proper osprey
#

50 crit chance with the tac axe if you build him right

woeful sigil
#

I slowly took off my toughness on peril change, and toughness damage reduction when I realised warp damage at 100% peril just gives you all your toughness back

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empowered psionics gives free assail at 100% peril

ornate hamlet
#

does your build account for your monitor possibly being turned off

proper osprey
#

I only use ep with brain burst

woeful sigil
proper osprey
#

Other than that ep isn’t worth it in my opinion

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And I also play my psyker like a zealot

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So gunner res is needed

proper osprey
woeful sigil
#

you just become a storm

proper osprey
#

Tbh I hope for the new reworks we get a key stone in the middle

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Like Arby

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Even though psyker is the farthest from needing one soon

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Zealot and vet need one swift

woeful sigil
#

I wish holding right click allowed me to expend all assail charges up until maxed peril

#

in 1 shot

proper osprey
#

I wish ep was buffed

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Shotgun assail

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Chain bb

woeful sigil
#

yes

proper osprey
#

We don’t use sm*te

wispy bay
#

Make charged strike applies to guns.

celest quail
#

what did they put in the water tonight? I have gone from havoc 25 to 22 without a single win.

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somehow, been the last person alive almost every time

deft stump
weary idol
#

Wait does this count as politics?

#

eh probably just gonna pretend I didn't post that

ornate hamlet
#

I saw that with mine very own eyeballs

warm flare
#

should i run warp siphon or EP with smite

#

cant remember which one is better

#

im running VS with it

severe folio
#

it is time for me to try and properly use assail

#

what kind of weapons do you guys usually pair with it and what kind of ability ?

verbal thistle
#

Obscurus and double barrel

severe folio
#

i imagine psionic is a solid way if one somehow want to invest into assail

verbal thistle
#

With gaze

severe folio
#

oh the shotgun ?

verbal thistle
#

Empowered

severe folio
#

why the shotgun ?

verbal thistle
#

Fun

severe folio
#

actually what exactly are the shotguns

verbal thistle
#

Anti rager

jovial juniper
severe folio
#

i tried them out but i cant figure out what is their primary purpose

verbal thistle
#

Combat and double barrel for psyker

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They kill

severe folio
#

do they really

warm flare
#

do you guys know which keystone is generally better to run with smite?

jovial juniper
#

Zarona Shotgun is basically boss killer

verbal thistle
#

Double barrel is a mixed horde/rager killer

jovial juniper
#

Agripina is pretty much a railgun

severe folio
#

wait what is double barrel

jovial juniper
#

We don't talk about accatran

severe folio
#

i dont recall any shotgun to be double barrel

verbal thistle
#

Combats are burst damage for unyielding and works great for anti specials with their large ammo count

severe folio
#

is it the spread

verbal thistle
#

Literally called double barrel

jovial juniper
#

No it's the double barrel shotgun

verbal thistle
#

Came out 8 months ago?

severe folio
#

oh

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theres another shotgun ??

verbal thistle
#

Ye

jovial juniper
#

Secrets of the machine god yeah

severe folio
#

that doesnt follow the same category of the combat, precision and spread shotgun ?

#

shii i havent seen a single good double barrel in the shop then

warm flare
severe folio
#

well smite is kind of not built to kill

#

its the electric staff's old gimmick that was separated out and turn into a blitz

#

its to torture your enemy

jovial juniper
#

Which then you can build it to kill

severe folio
#

reliably kill ?

jovial juniper
#

Yeah
Empowered Psyonics

severe folio
#

last i use it was when it was tangled with that bug

warm flare
#

yeah smite can kill reliably

severe folio
#

and then after that

#

interesting

warm flare
#

ive seen it destroy even mixed hordes with armored enemies

severe folio
#

thats pretty reliable

warm flare
#

yall should try it with SG + warp siphon

severe folio
#

lots of investment to make it kill ?

warm flare
#

its pretty fun you can run smite almost nonstop

severe folio
#

whats SG again ?

warm flare
#

scriers gaze

severe folio
#

ahh

jovial juniper
#

Scriers Gaze

severe folio
#

wait

#

why scrier gaze with it

warm flare
#

also not scriers gaze but not warp siphon i mean warp unbound with it

severe folio
#

can smite crit or something ?

warm flare
#

nah

#

but

jovial juniper
#

Nope

warm flare
#

you almost never need to quell with it

jovial juniper
#

But you can reaaaaaaaaaaally prolong smite

severe folio
#

because of the scrier gaze's 10 second of freedom ?

warm flare
#

^

jovial juniper
#

Yeah

warm flare
severe folio
#

isnt there a bug rn where once you hit 100 with scrier it kinda interrupt smite ?

severe folio
#

fukin perfect

jovial juniper
#

With Warp Syphon you can loop and loop and loop

severe folio
#

but what do you mean not needing to quell

#

youll just get SG back pretty much immeditely to go back into the 10 sec ?

jovial juniper
#

Really funny with Burster waves since smite forces detonation, proccing Psy Aura and Warp Syphon

jovial juniper
#

You have 10 seconds of casting while at 100

#

Getting a lot of value out of Warp Rider

severe folio
#

what about smite's keystone

#

i see theres a new thing where your melee electrocute

jovial juniper
#

Charged Strike?

#

Eh

#

It exists ™

#

Technically helps with hordes if you have a good melee at that

#

Or staff bashes

severe folio
#

staff bash trigger shock

#

thats funny

jovial juniper
#

Unironically good

severe folio
#

if only theres a way to improve its melee damage further

jovial juniper
#

The second bash is horizontal

severe folio
#

yes

jovial juniper
#

And has
22 cleave

severe folio
#

i had many time wish

#

that the staff's special attack can actually at least kill trashes

#

in one hit

#

does enfeeble affect smite itself

#

or not

#

i recall it wasnt

warm flare
wispy bay
#

Smite only delay the inevitable

jovial juniper
#

Bots killing themselves

#

🚬

#

(also get ovenproofs plugin patch)

ornate hamlet
#

Bro really just stunned the mutant with smite and pulled the melee out instead of spending the next 2 minutes holding smite

#

Advanced mechanics

prisma niche
#

I’ve only ever seen smite referred to as a crutch
Also I’m greatly disappointed with the electrokinetic staff

#

Looks cool
Feels cool
Does not put out the damage needed in an actual game

prime elk
#

EK has good damage tho

plucky flax
#

You need to spam creeping flames with surge

#

I play it in havoc and top damage.

raven mountain
patent jacinth
#

They also put you and your team to sleep

#

Wait that’s ek never mind

#

Ek is chill

raven mountain
#

There is that funny build for scrier's unbound spamming, but it's really hard to imagine running it without shriek to kinda spread damage out for hordes.

jovial juniper
#

I don't need to imagine

#

Although I'm running more of a M1 build recently

#

Rather than the warp syphon build

plucky flax
#

Surge can replace a plasma vet

#

Kill more specials do more range damage and dont take any ammo

#

In havoc

prisma niche
#

I still want an assail stafff

candid temple
#

I hate fatshark for changing the names.

novel yoke
#

Ive seen some people spam assail for like, 10-12 seconds straight (if I counted right). how'd they do that?

prisma niche
#

Has a mod that makes you immune to perils of the warp for the lingering effect

#

Which is 10 seconds

novel yoke
#

wouldnt you run out of the assail projectiles way before that though?

prisma niche
#

Not if you pace it
Unless you mean in mortis trials because then you get an instant shard reload for every enemy killed with a shard

nimble shadow
#

with the faster regen perk, and heavy throws, you regen almost as fast as you throw

novel yoke
#

nah Im aware mortis trials perks are special

#

heavy throws?

nimble shadow
#

faster regen talent i mean

prisma niche
#

Shard upgrades are kinda underwhelming compared to the others

novel yoke
#

hold on you can heavy attack with assail?

prisma niche
nimble shadow
#

if you ads then throw you'll wind back and the shards will do a bit more damage* and aim for the head

#
  • I think not 100% sure tho
prisma niche
#

It always aims for the head heavy throws are just better at landing it

nimble shadow
#

oh neat

#

i guess when i light throw its into a group and i dont see the headshot markers, and i do notice them when i heavy through to take out a destiny target

prisma niche
#

But yeah with the +damage with peril talent and the +Cleave with peril talents assail becomes fucking unstoppable

novel yoke
#

I just tried it out, I see what you mean but it didnt look that way in the video I saw

#

it was the regular hold down and spam

nimble shadow
#

oh huh

novel yoke
#

Ill see if I can find that one again

prisma niche
#

I love assail so much
Took me a while to appreciate it but I do now

#

Perfect for scattered or small groups

candid temple
#

no psykinetic's aura is whack

#

psyker tree rework when KEKcry

prisma niche
#

I don’t super like psyker’s auras honestly

#

I usually just pick whatever is thematic for the setup I’m going for or whatever is convenient

novel yoke
#

yeah no Im never finding that video again lol

#

its somewhere in the thousands of clips posted to this server

novel yoke
prisma niche
#

Yeah that one is pretty powerful

#

I don’t personally benefit much from it because I use Scrier’s which has a super short cooldown to begin with

#

You can cast it like three times with a single conc stim if you can build up peril fast enough

candid temple
prisma niche
#

Wouldn’t be so bad if brain burst was… Good
Evening when I build around it, it’s terrible

#

Doing everything I can to maximize casting time and damage output and it just isn’t worth it

candid temple
#

Yes, compared to assail, both bb and smite are very meh

prisma niche
#

At least smite can lock down an entire horde for several seconds
More if you’ve got the balls to use the -40% peril generation talent

#

Brain burst you have to try to hit a rager, waste a full 2 seconds charging it, only to realize you accidentally killed a random scab

#

Shit brain burst could have an instant cast and it still probably wouldn’t be too great

candid temple
#

that talent is like the worst in the game

#

because it's two negatives

prisma niche
#

I am well aware

candid temple
#

since you want to be high peril

#

😄

#

psyker rework any day now

prisma niche
#

Maybe instead of -30% toughness regen it can be -30% passive quell speed

candid temple
#

in fatsharks mind, that would be a buff

prisma niche
#

Or even no passive quell speed

candid temple
#

they seem to think -peril generation is good

#

well, it could be good if half our damage blessings/talents didn't run off high peril

novel yoke
#

surge to stun for a sec, and empyric resolve to spam EK shots for tougher enemies

prisma niche
#

I love how high peril is supposed to be risky and then you get like a 30% buffer AND it automatically stops you once you hit 100%
AND two of psyker’s three active abilities instantly quells peril and stops you from exploding

novel yoke
#

dont forget theres literally a penance about using venting shriek to save yourself from perils 50 times

#

theyre tryna teach people to do that more often

prisma niche
#

Ok so
Low peril generation IS actually important to me because it makes Scrier’s last longer

weary idol
#

crack of bone is good enough

#

on its own

prisma niche
#

Gonna crack your bones-

#

NYEH

weary idol
#

you can't do worse than nature did to me by giving me scoliosis

novel yoke
#

insert bane breaking batman's spine gif

novel yoke
#

empyric resolve is far away from gaze though

#

point sink, no?

prisma niche
prisma niche
waxen pollen
#

and the -30% toughness or whatever is still kinda

novel yoke
#

ig it could be good if you're already taking solidity, its only 2 more points then

novel yoke
#

I love the -40% peril generation though

prisma niche
#

I genuinely think empyric resolve should be “No passive peril quell” instead
Encourages taking solidarity alongside it

waxen pollen
#

maybe too crazy..

prisma niche
#

I feel like it’s more on theme too
I have empyric resolve but I’m even squishier now?

waxen pollen
#

being able to stay at 100% peril is what

novel yoke
#

you kinda already want to take solidity over puppet master anyways though

waxen pollen
#

like..

#

33% tdr 20% damage 100% cleave

pure scaffold
#

Would make Warp Nexus management easy as hell*

prisma niche
#

Yeah it’d probably need a rework

#

Forgot about that, I never use nexus

novel yoke
#

honestly the majority of this game needs a rework

#

fatshark aint exactly good at this balancing thing

prisma niche
#

Better than Helldivers

novel yoke
#

arrowhead is weird

prisma niche
#

Arrowhead keeps bending to the worst players while trying to make a high-skill co-op game

novel yoke
#

its this constant loop of them making the game harder and harder, till player count bottoms and boom suddenly the game is made super easy again

pure scaffold
#

You don’t understand

#

I need to be able to kill 50 bile titans in one peacekeeper magazine

novel yoke
prisma niche
#

Yeah exactly…

pure scaffold
#

Otherwise I am no longer a one man army

waxen pollen
#

stealth is always an option in hd ..

#

ive solo'd some diff 9~ missions

novel yoke
#

to this day the railcannon strat still can just miss despite being one shot every 4 minutes lol, no reason to ever take that

prisma niche
novel yoke
#

I'd rather just take the L and lose that mission

waxen pollen
#

its not duck waddling its more like

#

jump packing on top of a rock and like

prisma niche
waxen pollen
#

sniping every fortress

#

remove dive stims proud

novel yoke
#

even on diff 7 sometimes Ill just run away from the objective and take the horde with me to let someone finally do the hive driller or whatever

novel yoke
weary idol
prisma niche
weary idol
#

But boy did it have a high pickrate despite

prisma niche
novel yoke
weary idol
#

They were doing alright until the 60 day patch

halcyon plover
weary idol
#

There used to only be a few balance outliers but now it's absurd

halcyon plover
#

if you're trying to get a challenging game out of Helldivers 2 you have only yourself to blame at this point

novel yoke
#

nah even before the 60 day patch it was just people jumping from meta to meta

weary idol
#

Yeah because they were bad and needed the metas to play on those difficulties

#

But good players you had a lot of variety in viable weapons

novel yoke
#

lord knows I abused those metas ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

getting ragdolled for 20 min aint fun

weary idol
#

Some of them were fun weapons

#

Autocannon was a consistent banger

prisma niche
novel yoke
#

oh thats bcz the autocannon was the previous CEO's favourite

#

so it was always solid

halcyon plover
#

Automatons maybe just shouldn't have all their units able to ragdoll but whaaaatever

novel yoke
#

fr

halcyon plover
#

dude, Hulk bodies exploding on death can ragdoll you from 16 meters away

weary idol
#

Oh speaking of the ragdolling it's kind of a symptom of Helldivers 2 not having a fundamental requirement in enemy design to force teamplay

prisma niche
weary idol
#

Dedicated disabler enemies that can instantly knock out lone players without team assistance

novel yoke
weary idol
#

The way the game is designed kinda doesn't support them existing

#

So of course the meta is to spread out

novel yoke
#

give me the terminid hound

halcyon plover
weary idol
#

I mean Hunters used to be pretty threatening

#

But then they were made turn based

novel yoke
#

they only played it on stream after ppl said they didnt play it

halcyon plover
#

they can't clear D3

novel yoke
#

then stopped doing that once ppl forgot

halcyon plover
#

like they legitimately wipe on D7

novel yoke
#

reminder that they strugged to do Diff 4 on stream and had to call in the guy who actually plays his game

prisma niche
novel yoke
#

is it really a patrol if its actually a reinforcement

prisma niche
#

When the reinforcements are basically guaranteed
Yes

novel yoke
#

damn

#

another thing I gotta talk about is the infinite weapons

#

beam/energy weapons

pure scaffold
#

Was the trident released?

novel yoke
#

did they add them solely bcz ppl couldn't manage their ammo?

weary idol
#

Honestly rare balancing W for AH if you don't count the Talon

prisma niche
#

They’re… Fine, really
Ammo management hasn’t been a priority since release
cough cough TWELVE MAGS ON A GRENADE LAUNCHER PRIMARY

weary idol
#

Ammo POIs are much more common than they used to be

novel yoke
prisma niche
#

Not yet