psyker-class

[analog agate]

I’m not good enough for EP

[jovial juniper]

No one is

With a 15 seconds cd on flayer as well

No one is

[verbal thistle]

trauma EP with BB is probably strongest agaisnt red

[potent echo]

I have skill issue with eepy bb

Sometimes I hold LMB too long then it starts to lock on to trash unit, then I need to restart and this wastes time and peril

[spiral storm]

what was the dumpstat on inferno?

warp res or quell

[potent echo]

Warpres

[candid temple]

there's a mod for that I think

[potent echo]

What does mod do

[candid temple]

lets you exclude targets iirc

[potent echo]

Wow now I can cheat like agent...

[candid temple]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/468

is not cheating if FS hasn't blocked it

[potent echo]

Cool mod but this is just aimbot

[candid temple]

I consider healthbars a bigger cheat, especially on dark

[potent echo]

Kinda funny that the aimbot blitz becomes even more aimbotty

[candid temple]

honestly, fs should just remove fodder from bb targeting at baseline

[potent echo]

Perhaps, I just started using healthbars, it just tells me to run +maniac on more of my stuff

[candid temple]

also the explosion radius thing

or well, maybe randoms also have that mod and just choose to stand in barrel radius

[loud girder]

Explosion radius is good to avoid dying from silent bursters and bursters shoved by your team at u

Oh and bursters that refuse to go off

[candid temple]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-thumbs-up-spider-man3thumbs-up-gif-24153421

Silent bursters, never heard of 'em.

[stoic ice]

strangely can be useful against a random ranged trash if ur running inferno, not often but does happen

[loud girder]

Not as common as bursters that simply refuse to explode after push

[stoic ice]

i do wish that kinetic flayer did not target bursters

[jovial juniper]

Simply be max height and aim higher

[candid temple]

discrimination against short kings

[dull scroll]

that only works if your character isn't a midget 😏

[jovial juniper]

This does remind me to get the show CRIT chance mod

[candid temple]

if you're not playing max height, are you even height maxxing?

[radiant frigate]

coming at the cost of slaughterer, uncanny or deflector? and then not triggering most of the time because crits have a habit of killing things before SB gets there? yeah it's bad on force swords, even worse than fgs

for force swords, uncanny/slaughterer, maybe deflector if you want to make a shield

• if you are putting blazing spirit on for souldrinker i really have to wonder what the rest of the build is

[plucky flax]

Extremely based blaze knight build probably.

[radiant frigate]

yeah but only epic gamers can play that

[ripe obsidian]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Eyebleach/comments/1m8mmu6/this_is_an_uninterrupted_minute_of_maruay_the/

Have cat video.

[plucky flax]

Dump damage stat on blaze knight so you can blaze maxxing.

[barren arch]

I love deflector, can't go without it on my Psyker

[sinful perch]

Deflector and kinetic deflection ♥️

[barren arch]

and they say Psyker is squishy

[severe folio]

guys im seeing another monster in the shop

[marble crater]

Buy it

[plucky flax]

I die if I get touched once in havoc.

Seems pretty squishy to me.

[spiral storm]

warp res is the dumpstat on greatsword?

also which mk is the better one

[marble crater]

Yes and the better mark is the one you like more

[weary idol]

them's fightin' words

[sinful perch]

I mean, they definitely are. They just happen to have good blocking options, you'll still lose all of your toughness and 80% of your health bar if any elite hits you

[spiral storm]

wtf is assail weave??????

[marble crater]

Melee, throw assail, melee, throw assail

[weary idol]

https://fximgur.com/a/6CvTxPn this

throwing assail in between melee attacks

[spiral storm]

it looks cool?

[weary idol]

It's also absurdly strong

especially on the force greatsword

[spiral storm]

is it?

[sinful perch]

Probably pretty useful too with the perk that gives 7.5% toughness on warp kill

Basically constant, massive toughness regen

[spiral storm]

would swinging again not deal more damage?

[weary idol]

nah assail hits really really hard

[vestal trench]

damnation pubs make me miss havoc bruh

this is HELL

[spiral storm]

it does like 350 base, doesn't it?

[weary idol]

also it actually makes you attack faster with FGS

[spiral storm]

or was it 200 and aimed is 350

[weary idol]

because it gets slower lights after the first 2 when you draw it

[spiral storm]

which mk do y'all use

and blessings

[weary idol]

mk is up to preference

blessings are shred+wrath

[spiral storm]

I'm running shred, wrath

wait is that really the right choice?

no precog?

[weary idol]

you try using precog's 2 second duration with a weapon that swings this goddamn slow

[sinful perch]

Ngl I love assail, I used to use brain blast and I don't think I could ever go back because of how good assail is

[weary idol]

I wish you luck

[plucky flax]

I heard pro people use mk6

[gray juniper]

The best psyker I’ve ever seen does

[spiral storm]

What curios do y'all run

I've been running triple toughness

[weary idol]

triple toughness

[spiral storm]

what about gunker/ melee psyker

[weary idol]

triple toughness

[spiral storm]

no stamina or anything?

[sinful perch]

Two toughness one stamina, since stamina boosts kinetic deflection

[weary idol]

stamina curios are a placebo boost tbh

[gray juniper]

You can use different curios for different effect

[spiral storm]

mk6 is a lot easier to use

light is easy nonstop horizontals

heavy is overhead

[sinful perch]

Definitely not....it's double the capacity on Psyker and with that also doubles the amount you can block with kinetic deflection. Saw a video where with a +3 stam curio you go from 78 peril from a plague ogryn charge to 39 which is massive

[spiral storm]

just wish the push attack stab wasn't so slow to use

[sinful perch]

Man it removed my reply 💔

[gray juniper]

Six tested this for validity. It works as such

[weary idol]

What I'm taking away from this is running a stamina curio reduces the damage I do to plague ogryns after blocking their charge

And it upsets me

[quartz barn]

Just use a fgs with really low warp res

[gray juniper]

It’s the option for most if their secondary weapon is something more target focused instead of crowd

[quartz barn]

Mine has 27 and gives me 45 peril on special activation lmao

[severe folio]

i already have one of the same

does the shop share ?

or is this client based

[sinful perch]

Not really, if you already have peril which you probably do during a fight then the block will leave you at a max of 97 I'm pretty sure. Doing more damage doesn't really mean anything if 2 seconds later your block gives out in a swarm and that +17% toughness equates to one more hit from a groaner

[gray juniper]

What ability activates on block and stamina use?

[quartz barn]

Peril gain from kinetic deflection

[weary idol]

the peril gain giving me warp rider damage

[gray juniper]

Oh yea I see

[weary idol]

if there is a swarm around me I am not going to be at max peril 2 seconds later because I use crack of bone

[copper jay]

I'm a purg psyker bubble and I confirm this statement

[quartz barn]

Hey no need to call me out wtf

[weary idol]

tbf I also play like ass with buggle purg

I'm so used to having a real active ability instead of bubble

And I don't adjust well to it

Yet I use smokes on veteran and have no issues there

I blame the uh...blue coloration of the bubble

[quartz barn]

In all seriousness tho if youre proactive with bubble you can pull off a ton of clutches

[weary idol]

That's why

If it wasn't blue it'd be better

[gray juniper]

Ok so the whole story is coming together now

[quartz barn]

But i also play really aggressive with purg

[sinful perch]

I struggled with purg until I got dodge sliding down, makes it so much easier to actually charge up your secondary in swarms since the primary equates to farting on them

[gray juniper]

That’s probably the key tho, yea?

[quartz barn]

You use the primary for stagger to give you time to charge

Combine with bubble and ee and its easy mode

[weary idol]

Oh I was using the primary on purg to stay at 5 blaze away stacks

[quartz barn]

Only hard part is crab walking to get into primary range

[gray juniper]

You use it for constant crit for making EE activate also

[quartz barn]

Try doing that into a reaper without taking dmg

[hearty wolf]

You use M1 purg when you've made a mistake, need more flame

[gray juniper]

There’s exceptions obviously

[hearty wolf]

More flame mean less need for less flame

[sinful perch]

The contrast between Arbite and Psyker always cracks me up when I die. Oh man that attack did most of my toughness? Eh that's ok, I'll just push and it'll regen back. I'm at full toughness and health but tried to charge up my secondary fire as Psyker? That's my bad, instantly dead to the point where I don't even see several attacks just full to down

[gray juniper]

And that’s genuinely what the bubble is for

[quartz barn]

Or just spam it to stall enemies

[quartz barn]

Ye but in havoc bubble breaks in less than a second lmao

[hearty wolf]

Might as well use smite at that point 😭

You have teammates to sacrifice if you need temporary cc

[quartz barn]

Thats why i run warp charges too so i can protect my main bubble wiyh a different one

[sinful perch]

Iirc it has a minimum uptime of 7 seconds because it has a damage buffer where it can only lose durability so quick regardless of how many shots hit it

[quartz barn]

Nope

[gray juniper]

It doesn’t last long but it’s better to not exaggerate for the sake of anyone looking that hasn’t played difficult havoc

[weary idol]

The theoretical minimum is 6 seconds isn't it?

[sinful perch]

6.6, rounded up that's 7 on average

[quartz barn]

Ok ok shouldve said h40

[sinful perch]

It literally does lmao

It has 20 health, each shot regardless of damage does 1 damage and makes the bubble immune to damage for 0.33 seconds

[marble crater]

Each character has a different shop

[gray juniper]

But it does not do that in havoc 40

[weary idol]

Bubble does infact do that in havoc 40

[sinful perch]

The numbers are pulled directly from the source code

[weary idol]

I just don't think you're exactly counting the seconds while swamped in enemies

[sinful perch]

It isn't coded differently in havoc

[gray juniper]

Less than a second is a very short time. That would be obvious

[weary idol]

Meanwhile the GOAT the smoke grenade

30 seconds

guaranteed

can't die from being shot

[gray juniper]

Ngl I’m skeptical on 1 second bubble death

Definitely not from a couple reapers

[weary idol]

it's literally impossible

[gray juniper]

What is?

[weary idol]

bubble dying in 1 second

It straight up can't die that fast

[gray juniper]

That’s what I’m debating here. Nut was exaggerating

It’s just long enough to handle a few reapers at most if you’re focused on that and flaming carefully

The pause in throwing it down is something i actually have a major problem with because of walkers

[potent echo]

They were probably just out of burger range, and maybe separated by a gap or smth

[sinful perch]

I mean....it's literally 6.6 seconds

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/3tTgUHSBGQ

[gray juniper]

Yea I agree @sinful perch

[sinful perch]

Like, this comment has links to the source code

It's all in there

They probably weren't paying attention to the bubble or it could've been another Psykers that was already up for a bit

[gray juniper]

I only account for it lasting that long if I throw down bubble for safety reasons

[sinful perch]

And tbh even with 6.6 seconds of lifetime it's still incredibly useful, plenty enough time to get the angle to takedown a decent amount of ranges enemies and you get a completely free revive granted there aren't crushers or maulers

Been a lot of matches I've saved just from being able to pop down a bubble and revive my teammate while KD absorbs all the melee damage

[ripe obsidian]

One enemy continuously shooting bubble or 800, minimum time is 6.6 seconds.

Multiple enemies shooting bubble makes no difference

One reaper or gunner will shred it just as quickly, because they are rude

[sinful perch]

Yup, also makes the bubble really good for snipers because it doesn't really care since it's based on amount of impacts not damage

[ripe obsidian]

Snipers usually won't actually fire on bubble

[potent echo]

Snipers are really weird with bubble

They are already trained on you so you don't have time to understand that you are being tracked

[gray juniper]

It’s good for giving your melee classes cover

[ripe obsidian]

Imo the best use of bubble is as a stopgap to get through rough places, not as a bunker to huddle in

Throw it down in front of you so you can cross the distance to a gunner horde, for example

If melee classes can't survive without bubble, maybe they don't deserve to have it. >:(

[potent echo]

It's also good to just block out bombers/flamers

Also neutralise bonbon

[ripe obsidian]

It's useful in basically every situation

[potent echo]

It's just great for many other reasons

[ripe obsidian]

But I get frustrated sometimes when people use it as a reason not to push forward. Since bubble is here, we must stay here!

[gray juniper]

Yes. Instead of having to fight around flaming ground, it never happens in the first place. Even when it does, you can limit the problem quickly

[ripe obsidian]

Put a bubble down to lure your team forward, like moths to a flame

[vestal trench]

either damnation is a lawless land or i fucking suck at zealot

why is zealot iffier to me than psyker and vet

[potent echo]

I always throw bubble on enemies

[rigid moss]

My personal thought-process when placing bubble is "where do we want to be". It's a great tool to push the team into a certain direction, because big glowy dome = "I walk there" for essentially everyone

[potent echo]

I play too much smoke made vet lol

[rigid moss]

sometimes "where do we want to be" is "right where we are, defensively"

[glacial vapor]

It can be both

[rigid moss]

and sometimes it's "up in front of us where the shooters are"

[gray juniper]

I leveled zealot recently too. Damnation is a shit show

[rigid moss]

so then I place it in front instead of on myself

[vestal trench]

i think having most of its talents and toughness generation being tied to dodging is tripping me up

[gray juniper]

These were the first games I ever clutched

[ripe obsidian]

Sometimes, yes.

[sinful perch]

Personally I prefer to pull an Arbite and completely rush ahead of everyone, get hit by a trapper and thus force them to move further forward in order to save me

[vestal trench]

you need to dodge for perma uptime but i only have to dodge every once in a while on psyker and vet due to power sword/staff stagger

[rigid moss]

Sometimes it's even "behind us in the room where we can fall back to"

[ripe obsidian]

I will say that I never regret having bubble, even if sometimes I wish I had Shriek or SG.

[marble crater]

For me the best use of bubble is to invest the points into venting shriek instead

[rigid moss]

but thats part of the reason why I enjoy playing psyker. My bubble defines where we fight moreso than any other class can.

[vestal trench]

i at least learned chainaxe feels less miserable than thunder hammer after maxing both

[ripe obsidian]

Zealot throwing knives too hard

[rigid moss]

put bubble somewhere => team follows => thats where we fight

[vestal trench]

that too but ive been using bolter to split the difference

ima be real the knives are just there for quickswap tech

[ripe obsidian]

Great zealots are the ones killing every special with a throwing knife before you even know they're there

[potent echo]

I still need to practice that tech

Always forgor

[gray juniper]

This is apt. I cost myself several deaths and thus the team to lack a bubble by the habit of pushing in high havoc. Even a little distance is way too much in peak havoc I’m learning

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, it's not. Just depends on if your team is on the same wavelength

[vestal trench]

agree

[ripe obsidian]

If they're aggressive and pushing with you, great. If they're playing scared, throwing a bubble forward is counterproductive

[potent echo]

Havoc 40 players who still don't know where boss spawns are

[ripe obsidian]

But passive teams wipe more than aggressive teams in my experience

[potent echo]

They just push all the worst spots

[vestal trench]

funnily enough treating the bubble like a smoke in a tac shooter has been working out for me so far

[weary idol]

I don't know where boss spawns are I just kill them

[vestal trench]

sorry was me 🙋

[ripe obsidian]

I kinda know where boss spawns are

[potent echo]

If they killed the boss I have no arguments

But they just die and say oohh

Unlucky there's nothing I could have done differently

Strangle them

[vestal trench]

my approach has been to never lead and go first

that way boss spawns aren't on me

[severe folio]

nooo

[vestal trench]

[ripe obsidian]

I die to bosses when the Hexbound Daemonhost my ally triggered goes on me for some reason. Or when the melee twin sword swipe goes through block and full toughness to do 75% of my HP in one go

[rigid moss]

Is not wrong

[deft stump]

Why would I remember?

[severe folio]

peak condition

[ripe obsidian]

Because you know all things. You are like Odin, but probably with both eyes

[marble crater]

Karien is so good, she can deal with everything out of the gate, truly the best carry we have in the discord

[vestal trench]

gaslight o clock i see

[vestal trench]

carry-ien

[marble crater]

The name is not a coincidence

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, you use both eyes for staring @deft stump . Good example.

[deft stump]

I actually hate ppl who think I know everything. It gets annoying IRL. They can't even use a search engine...

[deft stump]

No, I can't. Best I can do is half solo heresy.

[sinful perch]

Chat am I a freak for preferring the regular force sword over the great sword

[marble crater]

No

[vestal trench]

i get two stares and a gun

[gray juniper]

Idk we were playing no mic so that may be a big difference. I doubt solo and agent are scared of anything. We may have just been disjointed on thoughts at times

[vestal trench]

everyone else gets a stare

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-i-do-what-the-fuck-did-i-do-the-wire-jimmy-mc-nulty-gif-7783289

[deft stump]

No, they all good.

[ripe obsidian]

I am glad I don't have to deal with people like that anymore. A ton of helpdesk folks can barely even follow a script. They give up immediately if it's not an obvious answer.

[marble crater]

They are scared of ruptured ears

[potent echo]

PTSD from all the lost runs

Hourglass after the fan event

[ripe obsidian]

No mic can impact things. But a lot of it is synergy. Agent is a very aggressive player.

[sinful perch]

Every time I try to look up stuff for the force sword it's always without fail just posts about the great sword to the point where I started to wonder if maybe it was just terrible and I was gimping myself using it lmao

[potent echo]

The left right angle turn into the huge shooter gallery tower climb thing

[deft stump]

I'm helpdesk but not paid for it.

[marble crater]

True, he always flames me and calls me a noob

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not helpdesk anymore. Helldesk.

[ripe obsidian]

Are you a noob and do you deserve burning at the stake?

[deft stump]

He really is. Is why I stopped playing book. I use it more defensively than his style.

[marble crater]

I'm not a noob
I can clear heresy missions

[deft stump]

Well, unless you like the Illisi... that one needs a buff.

[severe folio]

is brunt armory so much easier to acquire good stat weapons now or something

[potent echo]

No difference

[ripe obsidian]

He's a big part of the reason I end up at the front of most teams when playing Psyker, throwing down bubbles so the team will push with me. Or shrieking into the oncoming horde. Either works.

[gray juniper]

Karien was still talking btw lol. She wasn’t loud

[ripe obsidian]

Is easier than when weapons were not a guaranteed 380 stat total.

[marble crater]

Wasn't loud? Are you sure you played with Karien?

[sinful perch]

Nah I do Deimos for single target, the special attack is surprisingly good with using the penetrating flames on crushers

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos special is often not a good choice

[potent echo]

Only for uncanny stacks, other that that it's just aura

[ripe obsidian]

I only every use it accidentally

[potent echo]

The aura is a dps loss

[ripe obsidian]

H2 poke is more satisfying and more useful

[potent echo]

But do you take a dps loss or an aura loss

[sinful perch]

12k damage and a guaranteed stagger is good enough for me

[marble crater]

I use it against captain shields

[potent echo]

Deimos H2 is a true stagger lol

[ripe obsidian]

H2 is a guaranteed knocking of Crushers upon their asses

[deft stump]

Spam heavy. Deimos is gud, yes.

[ripe obsidian]

As for 12k damage, that sounds higher than I believe is true

[deft stump]

It's a gaslight mains injoke/meme.

[spiral storm]

Would like for the force swords to get some minor reworks

[gray juniper]

It was the voice indeed

[spiral storm]

normal heavies doing close to the same damage as the specials is wild

[severe folio]

true

does deimos still stagger an entire crusher with the stab

or is that patched

[sinful perch]

Weakspot hits with rending on carapace and crits, would be even more with DD but I don't think you can proc it in the meat grinder without mods. I guess I could just do the math but that's lame

[potent echo]

Definitely not 12k lol

[stoic ice]

yup

[sinful perch]

Or wait I typed wrong lmao

[potent echo]

That's like 2 shotting chaos spawn

[sinful perch]

1200

[stoic ice]

funny as hell seeing crushers fall to the ground

[potent echo]

1200 is not impressive ..

[severe folio]

crazy

[ripe obsidian]

H2 does almost as much.

[sinful perch]

I don't really care, I don't feel the need to minmax every singular action or attack I do

[stoic ice]

ur telling me you dont get carpal tunnal L1 qq cancel maxing deimos?

[ripe obsidian]

H2 crit headshot with assorted buffs on a crusher is 2680.78 damage

Special is 2020.70. Well then. H2 is actually 25% better.

[severe folio]

is the FGS bugged right now

with the special attack

[potent echo]

Is true dps is for losers

[gray juniper]

Idk where I made all my mistakes but I’m obviously not accustomed to playing at the level regularly in the first place. The goal was to stay on parallel with them. But I know I found myself pulling back last from noticing a boss last or ending up in situations with enemies in front and behind because I didn’t see team movement again

[ripe obsidian]

On flak special is 4133.25 to H2 3311.24, so there is that

[sinful perch]

You aren't slide hopping while cheering and tabbing into chrome for an animation cancel? Literally throwing...

[stoic ice]

ikr

[ripe obsidian]

Eh, I play almost entirely H40 and I still miss team movement and die to poor positioning

[plucky flax]

Don't think so

If youre playing into pus skinned tho it's doodoo

[severe folio]

pus skinned ?

[plucky flax]

Oh its havoc stuff

It should be normal in auric

[ripe obsidian]

But I am ancient, I am the land, and I have slow reaction times.

[sinful perch]

Sometimes I think I'm not playing good enough then I watch all 3 of my rando teammates walk into a barrel and get thrown to their deaths and think ok this is probably enough actually

[ripe obsidian]

Should've gone with them

[sinful perch]

I think at least a third of all my matches are lost because of randoms being flung off ledges from barrels, unironically

[deft stump]

Doodoo in new event maybe.

[ripe obsidian]

Stick with the team. >:(

[sinful perch]

I need to start counting

[severe folio]

with the gurantee crit special blessing doesnt trigger blazing spirit

[ripe obsidian]

It never has

Warp Slice is bad and should feel bad

:(

[deft stump]

IDK, but malice and heresy fart maulers taking more than 2 DS4 pokes is weird.

I am on my psyker.

_>

[severe folio]

kind of strange

with how the desc is it should work

i want to see flaming wave

on a sword

[ripe obsidian]

We all do

But Fatshark wants to keep us down

[severe folio]

i guess they know what we would do with it

[ripe obsidian]

They wish to deceive us

[sinful perch]

Time for shark fin soup boys

[deft stump]

A large fin... very premium.

[ripe obsidian]

Flaming wave into Shriek for instant 10 soulblaze stacks, pls

[severe folio]

the fall off of the special

is also kind of rough

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah it doesn't work like that

[severe folio]

idk why the fall off is that high

[plucky flax]

It'd be too powerful otherwise with free creeping flames

[severe folio]

its fiiine

it needs full charge anyway

[ripe obsidian]

Is not so bad if you have charges. Without charges, it is just a stagger

[sinful perch]

Man this event is fucking with me, even if they have less armor the spawns being skewed towards more maulers and crushers is rough 😭

[marble crater]

Free scab melee maelstrom

[plucky flax]

I dont play crappy event

[deft stump]

And ragers. I did some uprising and poor newbies.

You actually get multiple crushers and maulers.

[median pilot]

So uhhhh, very new to the game (like just started today type shit), at around level 12 and went to do mortis trials cuz I just unlocked em and had my ass handed to me on a golden platter on malice (the highest difficulty I have rn), is that normal?

[deft stump]

They die in like 3 ds4 pokes on my Assailker.

[plucky flax]

Yeah youre just bad at the game right now

[sinful perch]

I've had so many people leave because they round a corner to 10 crushers and can't handle the idea of dying I guess. A few times we even made it through but unfortunately still got wiped because the bots are basically just decorations on high dif

[plucky flax]

Keep playing to get better.

Eventually you become pro like karien or that unsanctioned guy.

[deft stump]

It was uprising. I did do on aurics but the moment they dropped me into high ping, we lost.

I guess I couldn't compensate.

[median pilot]

Bad at the game as in I'm doing smth wrong or bad at the game as in shit just sucks in the earlier levels

[sinful perch]

I don't think I could ever go back to low difficulty even on Damnation I get teammates that genuinely confuse me with what they're doing

[deft stump]

Stop gaslighting ppl.

[marble crater]

No you

[sinful perch]

Also, does proccing something that automatically quells peril reverse the critical peril explosion? I had a match where I was halfway through the holding my head boutta blow animation and my guy just....stopped and took no corruption

[severe folio]

i think you would want max level

[plucky flax]

Because you dont know mechanics and stuff. Can't dodge well etc. So maybe both

[ripe obsidian]

Game is hard. Takes time to learn audio and visual cues

[deft stump]

The thing is, I rather a diff I can try to solo when my team is 2 bots and an underleveled person.

[ripe obsidian]

Takes time to learn rhythms and mechanics

[sinful perch]

I don't really mind bad teammates on high dif tbh I just see it as an extra mission modifier

[ripe obsidian]

So you are probably doing things wrong, but at this point don't agonize over it. Just play and try to have fun and learn mechanics

[sinful perch]

The game also has a lot and I mean a LOT of mechanics it doesn't ever even hint about

[ripe obsidian]

And also, with only 12 talent points and level 12 weapons, game is even harder

[deft stump]

Is just, I try to win...

[ripe obsidian]

It is true.

[deft stump]

I will try to clutch heresy.

[plucky flax]

Maybe you should play heresy havoc.

[sinful perch]

Stuff like how the shield bubble has Iframes after being hit, or the fact that KD scales with stamina, basically every mechanic has some unspoken nuance to how it works

[median pilot]

Alr, thanks!

[sinful perch]

The real fun is the pain we encountered along the way

[deft stump]

They stole my auric heresy already.

[marble crater]

[median pilot]

KD?

[sinful perch]

Kinetic deflection

[plucky flax]

I mean every week.

[sinful perch]

It takes a portion of the stamina you would lose from blocking and converts it into peril instead

[plucky flax]

Stop playing h40.

[deft stump]

Heh.

[median pilot]

Ohhh kk, neat

[deft stump]

Rejected.

[median pilot]

Guessing you use that with high peril builds to sweep?

[deft stump]

Though to be fair, I just need 1 h40 win a season...

[sinful perch]

It's also insanely strong for revives because when you revive (and I think when doing the hacking minigames too?) you automatically block, and kinetic deflection applies to that so you can tank through attacks from full on bosses without your guard breaking

#1 kinetic deflection glazer tbh

[gray juniper]

I’m realizing so many people don’t know how to deal with this

[median pilot]

Also I'm using assail (friend recommended it to me since he told me lightning kinda sucks and idc abt brain blast) and absolutely love it, and for everything else its middle and soon to be right and middle for red and purple stuff once I get the points

[potent echo]

I don't think you can block during minigame lol

[deft stump]

Only res.

[marble crater]

Melee hard

[potent echo]

Something something horde shooter

Dodge also still bound to same key as jump

[deft stump]

I just see psykers dying even on lower diffs.

[sinful perch]

Could've sworn that it was the same as rez where hits knock down your stamina and once it's empty you get kicked out and have to restart

[potent echo]

Nope

Only ogryn or zealot with twbs can just facetank hits during minigame

Maybe castigator too

I never tried..

[deft stump]

Time to try?

[potent echo]

When arby is fixed, sure

[gray juniper]

I’m seeing all classes go down in the event. It’s pretty comical

Just like the last one, if you do quickplay it’s all anyone wants to play

[deft stump]

No true grit, no until death...

[potent echo]

I never QP into maels before

[deft stump]

Don't ask. I played all the diffs on this event.

Ppl aren't used to miniblight+scabs only.

[potent echo]

I'm surprised all these new players are still playing DT

Is DT really such a good game

Me after playing it nonstop for 2 years

[deft stump]

It is... if you ignore all the jank...

And FS quality issues.

[sinful perch]

Breaking an entire tree of skill nodes and then going on vacation 💔

If it was any class other than Arbite people would probably be rioting

[deft stump]

Is why that is there.

[deft stump]

No, ppl are, cos arby costs money.

[sinful perch]

I haven't really seen a massive amount of complaints and I spent like 20 hours on Arbite, even using the broken nodes they're still plenty viable for anything short of high level havoc

Shit maybe they are still okay for high level havoc I never tried, but I breezed through everything else

[potent echo]

Most people don't know they are broken

[deft stump]

You will. Forceful is funni.

Ever bullied 5+ crushers smacking their faces?

With only light spam?

[potent echo]

I never thought I will see the day I put hammerblow willingly on my weapon

[sinful perch]

I didn't lmao until I saw a post about it. Just thought it was usual Fatshark tomfuckery and the nodes were described wrong or the buff icons just weren't appearing on the screen

[potent echo]

But here we are

[deft stump]

Hammerblow high voltage.

[potent echo]

Spam M1 and things fly

[deft stump]

Vewy funni.

[sinful perch]

I really hope they keep the dog launch glitch as a tech, it's so funny to see the dog legitimately launch across the entire map to get somebody

[gray juniper]

This is a promising start (and BB side of tree is good btw)

[deft stump]

Feel like a cat batting things around.

[gray juniper]

Cat problems is why I’m awake

She’s walking on my chest and making noises. Wants to be fed then throws up repeatedly

Now just meowing and shadowing me but being mean if I touch her. Idk what she wants

What a queen

[deft stump]

Might be the thing you are giving.

[potent echo]

My cats do that when their toilet stimky

[gray juniper]

Cleaned that and wasn’t even full

Put her outside for a while also

So last thing is I assume she wants to play but then she’s being mean lol

[crystal crystal]

whats best on psyker rn? still flame staff build?

[potent echo]

If only they could talk..

[sinful perch]

I think void strike is usually recommended but inferno is also good, especially on high difficulties cus it has infinite cleave

I use it because I'm a freak for damage over time and crowd clearing

With assail for clearing off distant groups of gunners

[hearty wolf]

No

Inferno is the one usually recommended

Trauma is decent second though

[hearty wolf]

I literally use most of the broken nodes in H40 and it's still easy so

[unborn stag]

[sinful perch]

It's kinda funny the general opinion on the subreddit has done a complete 180. Used to be that most people agreed Arbite is overtuned and incredibly easy to play as, now if you even so much as hint that they might be too strong you get burned at the stake

[gray juniper]

Reddit is weak. Purge it

[sinful perch]

I think it's because now all the people yapping are the ones that never played Arbite and are just assuming everyone is wrong because it's been said so often

[deft stump]

Then you regret it.

[sinful perch]

But like, I love Arbite and goddamn they are a cakewalk. They basically have everything and you don't need meta builds in any way to do endgame content, I just chose what looked good with zero research and basically never die

[gray juniper]

Ok now she wants to play

[potent echo]

They wouldn't be pets anymore

[gray juniper]

This is so the wrong time but I doubt I’ll get back to sleep anyway at this point

[gray juniper]

Cat conversations would probably be awesome

[deft stump]

Bleed bomb was funni, doggo BLEED was OP. Now has neither.

[sinful perch]

Personally I feel Arbite is quite weak, the dog should revive and clear all corruption damage!

Being punished for dying is simply ridiculous

[gray juniper]

Should’ve gone no dog, execution order/forceful with all the toughness and weak spot counts as stagger talent

[sinful perch]

Yeah but no dog....is it really worth it?

[deft stump]

You can run it with dog.

[gray juniper]

Nuncio Aquila vs break the line is kind of hard to decide

[deft stump]

I do that on my red oni build.

[potent echo]

Break the line trivialises all melee encounters

[gray juniper]

Idk shock mine regeneration is the pretty good for a lot of purposes

[potent echo]

Nuncio is more balanced

[sinful perch]

The -100% moral support simply is not worth it

[gray juniper]

But if you go shock mine it does a few jobs at once so you can probably pick break the line as a secondary?

[deft stump]

Knowing you got puppo as support...

[gray juniper]

+15% tdr, +10 attack speed, 10% damage. I’m going to try it out and take at least one of each talent that doubles these amounts and at least two toughness regen talents

[sinful perch]

Frankly they should let Psykers interact with the dogs to ride them into battle

[plucky flax]

Strong build
https://youtu.be/A8CIJJbh7ro

[hearty wolf]

Well it's just a class that doesn't feel dog shit

There's cringe videos of people using dogless and shock mines but that's not fun

[plucky flax]

Tru

[hearty wolf]

You can tone down the toughness replenish just fine and that would go pretty well

[hearty wolf]

NAH I'M SORRY LOL

I WAS REPLYING ON PHONE SO COULDN'T SEE WHAT WAS ABOVE WHAT I WAS TYPING

[potent echo]

Real thoughts

[hearty wolf]

😭

[sinful perch]

I mean, a class can be good while also not being too strong. I've spectated Arbites who legit just stand in the middle of hordes getting hit by ragers and maulers just ignoring it because they have so much toughness and whatever they do lose just immediately charges back up because every action they do gives regen, definitely a middle ground there

[hearty wolf]

Just play havoc 40

Then if you get over headed

You die

Balanced, as all things should be

[sinful perch]

Classes shouldn't be balanced around the hardest mode that a fraction of the player base is in 😭

[hearty wolf]

They shouldn't be based around game modes where you don't need to look at the screen either

[deft stump]

Poor doggos, the triple coat weight.

[sinful perch]

Damnation and Auric are plenty difficult for the majority of people

[plucky flax]

Max hp and take tru grit

You can never die.

[radiant frigate]

all you can eat overhead buffet (gluttony edition)

[radiant frigate]

with dog it's insane
without dog it's tanky but otherwise incredibly mid

[upper sun]

having deja vu rn

[quartz barn]

Just have the corruption dmg from havoc in every difficulty easy

[potent echo]

I was looking up about KF3 and oh hey, it's tanner

[radiant frigate]

sorry i just like that expression

but yeah arbites are running the place out of business with how hungry they are

[marble crater]

They are not called ar-bites for nothing

[gray juniper]

Ok that’s interesting as it’s close to what I was thinking. What do you think of this? It’s concept. I haven’t tried it yet https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f795835-95d2-468a-821e-3bd2a52c0ee5/arby

[plucky flax]

Seems alright id take the strength when using ability though

Rather than the stagger at 10 stackd

And for this build your main damage comes from meleeing so you should be using shock maul rather than shield imo

[potent echo]

Is shield that much worse than maul? From what I played it seemed about sameish

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's okay single target but the horde clear and mixed horde clear sucks

[potent echo]

True..

[deft stump]

You mean for ammo.

[upper sun]

for death

[deft stump]

Because you use the other mark, I think. I can only just bonk hordes lul.

[gray juniper]

Which mark would work better?

[radiant frigate]

there is only one

[marble crater]

Arbites shock maul, not the regular one

[deft stump]

Unless you mean maul and shield?

[gray juniper]

So new arbites shock maul not old?

[radiant frigate]

Ye

[gray juniper]

Bet

[radiant frigate]

i'm recommending tac axe regardless but i am not an enjoyer of the class

so probably better to listen to someone who is

[potent echo]

Tac axe has one mark you do push attack heavy loop

I forgor which mark

I never investigated h40 BPs on arby

[gray juniper]

Looking at another build I may want to change to breaking dissent over ruthless efficiency. BD has a tdr node along the way that should activate easier and more frequently. I can still reach extra ammo that way

[gray juniper]

Unlike Caracal fren and gunker enjoyer I’m not a tac axe user

[radiant frigate]

i'm not a tac axe user except for arbites

every other class has a weapon i'd rather use

arbites notsomuch

what if ogryn got an appropriately sized tac axe

[gray juniper]

But he has the pickaxe

[quartz barn]

Nah bully club / dagger is closer

Pickaxe doesnt really give carpal tunnel

[potent echo]

The ogryn knife spam

I haven't tried it yet

Seemed really strong

[gray juniper]

Idk what you’re comparing the tactical axe to here but the overhead mark pickaxe seems to work the same

[hearty wolf]

The same people who probably drop damage on their weapons and have wound curios

We should be complaining about psyker if we're talking op

Literally have a staff that has infinite cleave

Infinity damage

That spreads with infinity range

With infinite cooldown reduction

They shouldn't even have a toughness bar

They have infinite crit too

Most classes use two weapons

Psyker just needs one

Staff has a melee attack too

So it's hybrid

[gray juniper]

Wait infinite range?!

[hearty wolf]

Pc/WF

[gray juniper]

For inferno?

[hearty wolf]

Ye

[gray juniper]

Oh ok yea as long as there’s a crowd

[hearty wolf]

Cos you're spreading fire outside of your max range with them

I mean if there isn't a crowd

There's nothing to take damage from

[gray juniper]

But if they’re far away

https://tenor.com/view/bubble-bubble-boy-jeremy-cohen-jerm-cohen-brooklyn-gif-17952136

[hearty wolf]

Soulblaze is supposed to be a dot

Over TIME

31 soulblaze stacks

Just kills everything

It's just damage

[gray juniper]

Aw yea

[radiant frigate]

i think this is very whatever

[hearty wolf]

Yes infinity is mid

[tulip kettle]

STOP

your bait powers will not work here

[radiant frigate]

so it can burn a lot of trash, who cares

[hearty wolf]

Psyker needs infinity² because they're squishy

[tulip kettle]

if sin had his way psykers just die whe loading into the game

[radiant frigate]

trash dies to anything anyway

[hearty wolf]

I would make psyker great

I would make scriers a real ult

I would make it so

You turn into a DH

[tulip kettle]

ahh yes, demonic possesion, thats the power fantasy for all psykers

[hearty wolf]

You passively get EP, warp siphon and DD

+300 toughness +300 hp

And you can sacrifice other smykers for more strength

So if someone is down

And you decide they're bad

To the warp they go

[tulip kettle]

so just the emperor then

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-hunter-flip-demon-hunter-flip-demon-illidan-gif-18324350

[hearty wolf]

Finally a boss damage build too

DH class also have 2.0 armour adm

Decapping every swipe

If you activate DH ult in nurgle belly

Instantly kills the nurgle

Same if you get grabbed by dog/trapper/mutant

DH class is balanced before they don't have inferno staff

With infinite cleave and soulblaze

And any soulblaze talents you have

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-talking-invetigating-mad-explain-gif-16881825

[hearty wolf]

Get converted into "heretics bane"

[tulip kettle]

this man

is so salty

[hearty wolf]

Which stacks attack speed

[tulip kettle]

about flamer

[radiant frigate]

sin, you good?

[tulip kettle]

the only thing making psyker relevant for 99.9% of the playerbase

[radiant frigate]

you okay?

should i call an ambulance?

[hearty wolf]

I'm going back to work

[tulip kettle]

i think hes just annoyed that the broken OP class doesnt also get one

[radiant frigate]

what, the flamer?

lol?

[tulip kettle]

yes, sadly

[radiant frigate]

weak and feeble

[tulip kettle]

you gotta remember psyker chat is not the playerbase at large

[hearty wolf]

I'm not salty

I'm just saying

If psyker was a paid class

People would treat it like arb

[radiant frigate]

lolno

[hearty wolf]

Psyker op

If you think no, you trash

[tulip kettle]

also yes SB is good when you get it to 30 stacks, but as we all know it doesnt get to 30 stacks unless everything is dying already anyway

[radiant frigate]

people would be bitching about how it sucks and is squishy

[hearty wolf]

If you trash, opinion discarded

[tulip kettle]

and yes arb is actually broken

you can watch it in any game they are in

[hearty wolf]

Shriek more

[radiant frigate]

arby traitor is dumb with dog and otherwise irrelevant

really meh weapon roster

[hearty wolf]

If you can't shriek 24/7, you're not killing enough for psykinetics aura

[tulip kettle]

its boring for sure

[hearty wolf]

Which means you're trash

[tulip kettle]

but also borken

no other class can just stand there in trash, not make any inputs, and live

[radiant frigate]

the only arby penance i have left is "play 50 more games!!" (i will not)

[hearty wolf]

Right click on psyker can do this

They need an input so their APM goes up from 1apm to 2apm

Or else you'd fall asleep

[tulip kettle]

right but thats inputs

[hearty wolf]

And the class would be too hard

[tulip kettle]

arb does it without touching the mouse or keyboard

[hearty wolf]

So it's actually a buff

[tulip kettle]

come on

[hearty wolf]

We all know that classes only get nerfed when they're bad

[tulip kettle]

on psyker, you dont have 100% toughness and get backstabbed by a pox, you die

[hearty wolf]

Like Ogryn

And Arb got nerfed

[tulip kettle]

arb loses 4 toughness that instantly regens

[hearty wolf]

It took 20 years for Ogryn to be reworked and Arb will reworked soon because they're ruining the class

[hearty wolf]

Yeah so you can watch others play

That lets you call out specials on their screen more easily

[barren arch]

this has got to be the lowest quality bait I've seen in a while

[hearty wolf]

It's true

Back seating others makes them more useful

It's literally a mind control ult

And if you're not in havoc, then there's less intensity

So you're making the game easier for everyone if you can't use purg staff 👍

[gray juniper]

Unlucky for Them talent

[hearty wolf]

Reworking the Psyker tree in meaningful ways 🤝

[gray juniper]

I wanna see the DH ultimate

[hearty wolf]

We can redo some of the other ones too

Bubble for example

Useless defensive ult

Instead you spawn the bubble and then channel it

Everyone inside gets teleported to where you ping

Allies get buffed, enemies either die from the warp or become disoriented

Obviously we have to address psykinetics aura being the best talent in the game so if you warp too many times in quick succession, you explode and can't be rescued

Your body is ripped beyond recognition

Instead you spawn a ritual DH

But if you clear it, then you can save the Psyker

[quartz barn]

Mfw i place the bubble outside the map and wipe the team

[gray juniper]

Call it WarpHole 💀

[marble crater]

[gray juniper]

Sin is creating lore accurate psyker and mine games at the same time. He’s revolutionizing the game. Can he be great?

[hearty wolf]

Also let's change some keystones

They're boring

What about "Warp step"

Replace all dodges with a short range warp dodge

One of the subnodes is that if you're out of effective dodges, you can use peril to warp

[potent echo]

If the sub nodes is increased attack speed per chained warp dodge I'm in

[hearty wolf]

Yuh

Of course

Melee psyker will be real

[potent echo]

My breakpoints though

Maybe put it as a sub nodes for gaze

[gray juniper]

Make warp speed default for sc that’s what makes it fun istg

Psyker and zealot angrily fighting together like Jojo and Dio

[vivid hare]

So uh, any tips of not dying as Psyker in havoc? I’ve been run a crit Scriers gaze build and whilst it’s a blast, sometimes it just feels like there was nothing I could do to prevent going down.

[potent echo]

That is right

Positioning, good play, alot of luck

Unless you have some specifics you want to share

[vivid hare]

Gunners I guess? Feels like a gunner looks at me and I turn to dust even if I slide

[glacial vapor]

As in a melee/ranged build? Not exactly giving yourself an easy time

[vivid hare]

?

[gray juniper]

Slide only works perpendicular to dodge bullets

You really want to learn better positioning to solve that problem

[jovial juniper]

What's your ranged?

[gray juniper]

If they’re already shooting you should find another route or use assail very quickly

[vivid hare]

Recon lasgun for the fire on crit

[potent echo]

You should have no problems with shooters then? If you run EE

You are practically invincible

With gaze you also get suppression immunity

[glacial vapor]

You're playing the flimsiest class, in a more frontline orientated role. It's going to be challenging.

Not that it can't be done, don't get me wrong but a staff build would give you an easier time.

[potent echo]

Staff won't save them from gunners 🔫

[jovial juniper]

Oh if was a staff I'd say to use your m1 because they have high suppression
Unless it's inferno, you use M2 on those

[jovial juniper]

It will

[potent echo]

I mean yea suppression

But like you need to be proactive

[glacial vapor]

The shield will (my beloved)

[jovial juniper]

Another staffker w

[potent echo]

And in that case then recon EE gaze crit

[jovial juniper]

Yeah recon also suppress
You just need to shoot a bit more

On havoc

Where ammo.....

[potent echo]

Doesn't recon have almost 100% uptime on EE with gaze lol

[glacial vapor]

Could always go Bubble Knight to counter the gunners. You'll be losing the scriers damage output though

[gray juniper]

Recon comes with a ton of ammo anyway

[vivid hare]

On one hand, I have tried an inferno staff build and it’s real good but the damage output of scriers is just more fun for me

[marble crater]

[gray juniper]

Bruv

Wut

Inferno staff build is high damage

[vivid hare]

Yea but I like stabbing

[potent echo]

You can stab with inferno too

Hell play gaze inferno why not

[tulip kettle]

YOURE ACTIVELY MEANT TO STAB WITH INFERNO FOR DMG

woops caps

[glacial vapor]

Gaze inferno assail

[tulip kettle]

and yeah, gaze in havoc and having trouble with shooters

theres a reason bubble is meta

[glacial vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/gaston-beauty-and-the-best-hairy-chest-chest-man-boobs-gif-4351410109400747227

[tulip kettle]

smite EP in my game rn

cant wait

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/black-majestic-chad-looks-maxxing-gif-12399243495294132769

[gray juniper]

No you said it right the first time

YOURE ACTIVELY MEANT TO STAB WITH INFERNO FOR DMG

[potent echo]

Havoc?

[gray juniper]

Shutting the game off ofc

[potent echo]

Or dies to the first sniper spawn

[strong gulch]

Staff bonk mentioned.

[wind wind]

Can any of you merry Gentlemen in here bless me with a state of the art melee psyker build please

[marble crater]

Gunker

[plucky flax]

Go down right side.

If you play havoc you can try bubble knight.

[strong gulch]

This is the core of a right side build with BCoB for melee during SG. Take FGS, obscurus, taxe, etc with recon, vraks 5, lapistol, ran revolver, bistol, etc.

Still have points to spent but those are dependent on how well you are able to keep DD stacks up, if you want QoL nodes, how much assail you use, etc.

but yeah, if you do havoc take bubble

[marble crater]

@strong gulch first: Hi
Can you link your gunker build #psyker-class message also in your pinned message with the other builds? I know it's right below, but new people don't

[strong gulch]

So if I was gonna do FGS and I have a skill issue keeping DD stacks up or there just isn't that high of enemy density then I would put my extra points like this. Warp speed and anticipation are not needed, but are nice with FGS and WU lets you dump assails.

[strong gulch]

I can but I am hesitant because it's not my bread and butter. There are baseline questions that I am not confident in answering. The answers I have are more based on vibes and collected opinions with less emphasis on actual data.

But really that's a cop out. I'll think about it.

[marble crater]

If it makes it easier for you, whenever someone asks for a gunker build I link yours anyway already

[strong gulch]

Kk. It might be time then. Maybe next week or sooner.

We get a lot of bubble knight questions, so I should include that too.

some Agent promo

[marble crater]

Yeah, but he can write it himself, or just link to his video

[copper jay]

Do the purg staff is doing more damage to bosses ? I have the feeling this is doing way more damage and I have always the last hit ? (Or maybe this is my passive teams ?)

[gray juniper]

OP smh. How do they even allow this in a game?

[tulip kettle]

you get the last hit because you are doing a DoT

[marble crater]

More damage to bosses compared to?

[tulip kettle]

inferno has very middling boss dmg, that becomes relatively good as psyker goes if you aim for it

[copper jay]

5 months ago

[marble crater]

Then no, we already had blaze away 5 months ago

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie wanna get carried by karien soon? I am at home now it should be easy.

[marble crater]

Maybe you are just better now

[strong gulch]

We have blazeaway now

idk for how long we've had it

[plucky flax]

Maybe I'm getting old but playing on 17in laptop screen kills me.

[copper jay]

My other theory is : I'm better and touch more easier weak point (with Uncanny Strike blessing) and this improves my dot on bosses

[tulip kettle]

very likely to be this

[copper jay]

You still have shitty computer ?

[plucky flax]

No I play during the week on laptop.

At weekend I have access to good pc and 27in screen.

The laptop is decent but it's the screen too small and I use 1 channel bluetooth speaker.

[tulip kettle]

OOF

[plucky flax]

I don't need to hear stuff behind me.

When all I hear is karien's fan.

[marble crater]

[copper jay]

Karien is a meme ? I hear a lot about her. And when she is speaking about herself she is a "Useless Book Zealot because of 400 ping"

[marble crater]

Most likely this then

[strong gulch]

Crackle a candy rapper in your ear.

cupped by a tin

wrapper

[marble crater]

Meme? She is the best carry in the game 🧎‍♂️

[plucky flax]

She's the best player that fraud unsanctioned guy doesn't hold a candle.

[strong gulch]

"Useless Book Zealot because of 400 ping" merch when

[summer prairie]

I wish I could get carried but at work

[plucky flax]

You're not on 2 months long paid leave?

[summer prairie]

it's over

[plucky flax]

Just take 2.5 hours lunch break like me.

Go for lunch at 10 come back at 1.

[summer prairie]

I barely work at work but not going to install DT. I guess I could have a laptop but not worth it

[gray juniper]

She was the first to havoc 40 everything. She parted the Red Sea and allowed us to cross after. She showed us the way later. She was known to laugh at noobs like agent chaos but felt bad enough to start carrying all of us

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax If you need more people. I'm available. Eepy tho. I just woke up.

[plucky flax]

Okay you come we're waiting on @deft stump

If you play burga I go bubble knight.

[gray juniper]

“I’m just here for my book” confused looking guy shrugging Tshirt

[deft stump]

Are you serious?

[strong gulch]

I have skill issue. So burga for me.

[gray juniper]

I didn’t know you were here so I was playing with the new people 😭

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[strong gulch]

hand caught in the cookie jar.

[deft stump]

Anyway. Logging in and stuff.

[gray juniper]

Good luck you guys

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

So Arby or Zeal?

[deft stump]

WDYM? I'm ALWAYS watching.

[wind wind]

Thx

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/monsterinc-monsters-inc-gif-5616105356996190790

[gray juniper]

Omg you seriously are. If you didn’t say anything he wouldn’t have seen your username

I’ll only do the joke when it doesn’t actively grief you

[deft stump]

(It's a joke, we know.)

[copper jay]

How is bubble knight compared to burga ?

[tulip kettle]

harder

only pros can play it

[plucky flax]

Harder, more fun. Can be more damage if no purple.

Because you simply kill stuff faster than burning them.

[gray juniper]

Do you still have purple and red on magistrati?

[plucky flax]

It's purple ritual.

[gray juniper]

Plus the rituals was shitty ngl

[deft stump]

@strong gulch vox?

[strong gulch]

ok which

[upper sun]

🚬 time to speed run more events

and get yelled at by newbies

[quartz barn]

Tbf you get yelled at by everyone

[deft stump]

The sus.

[marble crater]

[sand field]

On an inferno staff, is it better to have 25% damage against maniacs or 5% increased ranged crit chance? Guide says take maniac, friend says take crit chance.

[west knoll]

25 unyielding 25 carapace

[sand field]

I've got 25 flak 25 maniac at the moment, followed the Atheneum guide

I BB bosses anyway

[gray juniper]

That’s a pretty good set up. It would probably more depend on what your melee is using also

[west knoll]

If you full blast a boss it’s easier for the team to do damage on it.

[summer prairie]

carapace and maniac not good for purg

[gray juniper]

Yea carapace is pointless more or less

[jovial juniper]

It's up to preference

[tulip kettle]

flak and crit chance

or flak and unyielding

[jovial juniper]

CRIT chance will help enable Perfect Timing and EE

[tulip kettle]

those are really the choices for inferno

[gray juniper]

Is maniac a decent idea? I’m using flak and crit also

[jovial juniper]

Maniacs is just total Maniacs death

Kick maniacs

Roundhouse Maniacs

Burn maniacs

[sand field]

When I take damage/get downed, it's mostly bruisers, ragers or the odd mauler

[gray juniper]

@jovial juniper arbites status update?

[jovial juniper]

[tulip kettle]

so take flak to deal with all 3

[gray juniper]

Use primary attack and make space also

[tulip kettle]

then crit chance for more EE procs and faster stacks building

and yes lmb puffs in ragers face

[sand field]

I didn't know purgatus primary afflicts bruisers, mauler & ragers

time to hop into the meat grinder

[gray juniper]

High suppression

[tulip kettle]

some take unyielding instead of crit for "better boss dps" but you should have your melee out once boss is at 15+ stacks

[gray juniper]

It’s not 100% but it’s majority

[tulip kettle]

inferno primary will stagger a rager out of its combo unless its got certain status effects like nurgles blessing or final toll

[gray juniper]

Crit had a lot more spread so I think it’s better option for wider array of enemy types

[tulip kettle]

crit is generally better yes for the reasons above

[sand field]

my survivability has increased, thanks. I'm new to the build so it's lot of adapt & overcome.

[west knoll]

I had carapace on my ds

[tulip kettle]

the best thing to improve your survivability is take kinetic deflection talent if you arent

[west knoll]

Flak on the inferno. Got confused

[tulip kettle]

then when you feel too under pressure, get your sword out, block, and move to somewhere where you feel safer

[gray juniper]

With crit and flak purg staff how does maniac and carapace on Deimos sound? This is working out decently

[tulip kettle]

its what i run

sometimes i take cara unyielding DS4

[gray juniper]

Getting boss cornered feels bad though

[tulip kettle]

with deimos its fine because you have deflector and KD

just block forever

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah totally forgot Critical applies 2 blaze

CRIT 2 blaze 💯

[tulip kettle]

precisely

it means that generally, one full charge and 1 half charge will put everything at max stacks

[sand field]

This is a new weapon/set up for me, so I need to get used to ucsing the deimos with deflector

[gray juniper]

I don’t understand how obscurus is meant to be used still tbh

[tulip kettle]

the deflector is less important

[gray juniper]

I still have dissonance with that swing pattern

[tulip kettle]

the most important bit is the "kinetic deflection" talent on the bottom right of the tree

and the fact you are running it with a force sword, means you can quell

so you just hold block and build peril and move to where you feel safe

if your peril gets too high, quell while dodging

once you feel safe in your position, throw out a push and get back to doing DPS in the most appropriate way

[gray juniper]

The idea behind using a inferno and Deimos combo is keeping the staff out much as possible and using the sword with uncanny to stack damage/big push attack/kill enough pox walkers fast to get out of crowd

[tulip kettle]

i think obscuras is for people who use macros

etc

[gray juniper]

?

[tulip kettle]

its awful to use manually

[gray juniper]

Key bindings?

[sand field]

When do I get the ability to post pictures here? I'd like to share my friend's build for scrutiny.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-3836540956679717108

[tulip kettle]

just the move set

oh it is skill issue 100%

[jovial juniper]

💀

[tulip kettle]

if the attack pattern is more complicated than "spam 1 attack" or "alternate these 2 attacks" im gonna have a skill issue generally

[potent echo]

Krill

[gray juniper]

nah. deimos just does the same thing for the elites im aiming for already. the upside to obscurus is single swipe on almost all specials

[gray juniper]

One of the mods will give you a red name roll after a while

It’s pretty fast

[tulip kettle]

you can also just make it on here, make sure you name it, press view build at the bottom then post the link

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[sand field]

will work on that now

[upper sun]

french jump scare

[jovial juniper]

Alto! switch 🗣️

A door! Switch

🗣️

[upper sun]

are u french?

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

[upper sun]

i was gonna say expedition 33 🔥

[sand field]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f79a801-fdc7-4038-89f0-8ca43081b632/bones-inferno-crit-build

This build is possibly a bit oudated, I'm trying to perfect it for auric

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/couscous-madame-rizcochet-gif-4323625964178893943

[jovial juniper]

Fairly standard

However

[upper sun]

nah its fine id just take off essense harvest

[jovial juniper]

If you drop BB resonance

You can get wildfire

[upper sun]

crit node is more worth it

also what higui said

[sand field]

thanks for this suggestion, my friend chose resonance to bubble up for the boost to kill bosses with BB

but I guess the amount of times I use it is not worth it.

[sand field]

Would others agree with this suggestion? I see the advantage and will try it.

[analog agate]

I’d do something like that for auric and you still want bubble. Your current build has over the top toughness regen

If you want quietude you can get rid of warp battery for it

[sand field]

I've modified the build, gonna test it now. Thanks for the feedback!

[gray juniper]

hold on a sec bc you’re already using ER in yours. This should improve it

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f420e95-38c9-4a0b-98d0-383fa9eaccbb/saucys-bubble

Ignore the curios

[sand field]

Thanks, I've modified my build again. You guys seem to appreciate Empathic Evasion

[quartz barn]

EE is incredibly strong, especially since psyker usually has a high crit rate

[gray juniper]

It works off of high crit

[strong gulch]

gg @plucky flax @deft stump

[plucky flax]

It was all Karien.

[gray juniper]

She carried again. I should’ve been there

[quartz barn]

Rip i missed kariens goated gameplay

Stuck at work

[strong gulch]

lol I thought I loaded into the mourningstar with a random outfit.

No. I hit the randomizer button trying to get to scoreboard

[gray juniper]

I call dibs if you guys run another this weekend

Tater and chaos sounds goated

[deft stump]

They are, get Syllo and you get 3 psykers.

[marble crater]

Gg@deft stump

[plucky flax]

The random in the team thought I was some unsanctioned guy for whatever reason.

Kinda weird.

[deft stump]

.-.

I forgot to take photo of proof.

[marble crater]

Proof of what?

[plucky flax]

She doesn't know two characters can have the same name.

It doesn't mean anything.

[strong gulch]

Bubble took 5 business days to show up. lmao

[marble crater]

Must be that 400 ping Karien always complains about

[deft stump]

This is like praying gold hits you guys before overhead does.

[tulip kettle]

what a strange bug

[strong gulch]

my ping was red

[tulip kettle]

31 - 21

17, bubble appears

[strong gulch]

server and i both have dial up brains

[gray juniper]

That would be wild. I hope they do that with me

[tulip kettle]

but how

its 45 seconds base

you have 4 warp charges

[deft stump]

Lag says kark you, your CD is dictated by Tzeentch.

[tulip kettle]

so the warp charges take it from 45 to 31