psyker-class

[kindred geyser]

arby maul as well

[jovial juniper]

Immediately thought we were talking about expedition 33

[quartz barn]

Cant talk too much about that yet, only started playing on monday

[kindred geyser]

nerf power maul ts too op 💔

[stable silo]

jesus why did no one tell me you can swap the marks of the weapons in the top right dam u game

[marble crater]

You didn't ask

[stable silo]

i didnt mean like here i meant more like in game haha

[jovial juniper]

If you came back recently then yah

But if you're old player

Should've read patch notes

[marble crater]

Game does a not good job of explaining things

[jovial juniper]

Smh my head

[stable silo]

i have gotten put over a barrel last time i played blessings and perks were locked then u could swap 2

[radiant frigate]

siblings how do we feel about tac axe

any good for us or just others?

[jovial juniper]

It's shit in general

[marble crater]

Potato keeps a list of tac axe users

[stable silo]

when i came back i even fished for all the good tier 4 perks to strip at hadron not realizing rofl

[jovial juniper]

You can use on Scriers Gaze build

[stable silo]

for new weapons *

[radiant frigate]

tac axe is my favorite arby weapon

[marble crater]

[deft stump]

It's now just mastery lvls so... Lul.

[radiant frigate]

by virtue of everything else being stupid and smelly

[jovial juniper]

It's also arguably better on psyker than on vet Arbys

[upper sun]

imma be real i hate all arby weapons aside from the maul and shotgun

[radiant frigate]

how come

[stable silo]

i know i realized that after i blew a ton of resources and it wouldnt let me strip the blessings in the sacrfice

[jovial juniper]

Lots of crits

Lots of finesse

[radiant frigate]

clad a real one

[marble crater]

Clad just hates everything, mostly he hates when people have fun

[jovial juniper]

Lots of cleave

[loud girder]

skill issue!

[upper sun]

the shield pistol is literal ass

[loud girder]

shield pistol is absolute peak

[jovial juniper]

Class so mid it

[marble crater]

Shot pistol is my favorite

[loud girder]

cleaves like a mf

cool as fuck animations

[upper sun]

give me a boltpistol shield

[marble crater]

No

[upper sun]

also why the hell doesnt the shotgun have manstopper

[loud girder]

cause it has it by default

the shotguns on arbi literally cleave everything

[upper sun]

except dogs

it has an ASS infested adm

[loud girder]

me when i see 100 ragers and kill them in 1 mag

[upper sun]

X

[loud girder]

mk3 shotty is ez horde clear mode

no cap

[stable silo]

this one looking like the standard duel ?

[radiant frigate]

using guns for horde clear smh

[jovial juniper]

Stat wise yes

Blessing wise

Agile is a trap

[stable silo]

oh really it looks so good though

[loud girder]

why not
good ammo economy and helps when billion maulers are on you

[radiant frigate]

agile is extremely whatever

[stable silo]

which should i swap it for ?

[jovial juniper]

You can refresh your dodges by not dodging for 0.85 secs

[loud girder]

precog

[radiant frigate]

riposte

[jovial juniper]

So agile is just occupying a slot of a better blessing

Like riposte or precognition

[jovial juniper]

😭

We have been saying to not use your ranged on hordes for the past 2 years

[upper sun]

i mislike the mk3

[loud girder]

a more accurate answer, blasting mfs with a wide ass shotgun is fun

[jovial juniper]

(exceptions exists)

[loud girder]

i WILL blast the rager horde with my shotgun

even tho i can easily curbstomp them with my mauls

[radiant frigate]

my exception is farming ranged kills for that fuckass terminus warrant penance

[jovial juniper]

Now that's more understandable

[radiant frigate]

worthless keystone btw

[jovial juniper]

Always shot the ragers

[radiant frigate]

like weapon spec but shit

[loud girder]

thats what i mean by horde
mixed ass pack filled with armor

not random poxwalkers

or brusiers

that can be 1 shotted by every weapon in the game

[marble crater]

Friendly fire is turned off, Clad is safe for now

[radiant frigate]

for now..

[jovial juniper]

Class so mid it has worthless keystones

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[loud girder]

happens when the keystone is shipped unfinished

thankfully the other two are some of the strongest in the game

[radiant frigate]

melee selection be like "blunt weapons and 2 axes"

[jovial juniper]

Ah yes

The fatshark special

[radiant frigate]

and a chainsword for some reason

[jovial juniper]

FS probably haggled for it

[paper oriole]

They have being getting away with this since 2015

Why change?

[loud girder]

they're restricted by lore
arbites basically just use shock troop supression weapons

[jovial juniper]

Otherwise Arby's would have 4 melee weapons

Shock Mauls are currently ok

[loud girder]

even if they get more weapons itll be more blunts and more shock weapons

or power weapons

[jovial juniper]

But nothing really special about them

[radiant frigate]

i do be wishing we got something else instead

[dull scroll]

blunt weapon becomes extremely dangerous on arby, the bonk stick that takes forever to kill crusher on zealot 3 shots them on arby

[loud girder]

that would mean convincing GW to let them not break the holy bible i mean the lore

[radiant frigate]

kerillian voice on bardin gameplay smh

[loud girder]

this

[stable silo]

wat u guys like better right now inferno or i guess voidblast staff now instead of trauma

[loud girder]

crusher on arbi is busted

[radiant frigate]

can onetap with enough buffs

[dull scroll]

and can put skullcrusher on boss permanently

[radiant frigate]

no i mean Not Arbites

[dull scroll]

it's buuuusted

[paper oriole]

Have you seen their killteam box? There are snipers and heavy machine guns + some net weapon

[hearty wolf]

Yeah. It seems to be more common with certain ritual spawns too. So it doesn't feel like a bug, more like a feature.

[loud girder]

everyone and them mom is asking for the arbi maul to get nuked it has 0 weakneses
great horde clear = check
crusher 3 taps - check
fast af = check

[radiant frigate]

shit mobility

[hearty wolf]

They should not nerf my Maul

My maul is balanced

I can't 1 shot Nurgle's with it

[loud girder]

it feels alright
arby just has psyker doges lmaooo

[dull scroll]

it doesn't have skullcrusher 😏

[stable silo]

i finally have a weapon i can light spam into hordes without a care its glorious

[paper oriole]

Maybe they will nerf it after a month, once dlc will lose stean

[loud girder]

this

skullcrusher is so dumb

especially on arbi

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1395148664275603497/cells_2x.png?ex=687b5f32&is=687a0db2&hm=0e4d0a77ecccf0e34f5cc3fe9ba5797a71f9ca1a707aff1ac7f1444a2aa4e08f&

[radiant frigate]

yeah but no runspeed

[loud girder]

u can argue its harder to procc on zealot but on arbi its 1 bonk....

like im sorry what

[loud girder]

true however i dodge slide

(brainrotted)

[stable silo]

wait are you not supposed to dodge slide ?

[radiant frigate]

disgusting

[loud girder]

you are

[radiant frigate]

feet on ground not ass on ground

smh

[upper sun]

we squat here

[jovial juniper]

Class so mid it doesn't have a "I'm gonna kill you now" button

[upper sun]

ass to grass

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[stable silo]

true but if your a man of culture thats okay

[loud girder]

its called mk3 shotgun

[radiant frigate]

class so mid it doesn't have a knife-related blitz

[upper sun]

i have no responses have this

wrong one shit

[jovial juniper]

Ranged weapon prejudice

[radiant frigate]

oh ok

[jovial juniper]

[jovial juniper]

[loud girder]

heavy stubbers on them and vet NOW

[upper sun]

nvm not sending it now

[loud girder]

pls fatfish

heavy stubber....

[jovial juniper]

Aaaawwwww

FS was waiting to release Arby's before releasing Big Gun

It's going to go hard af on vet but people will gaslight you to think it's better on Arby's

[paper oriole]

Would be awesome, out repear the reaper

[broken carbon]

gut arby pleasseee

[paper oriole]

I will be - you have a big gun and a dog at your side 🙂

[jovial juniper]

They are mid

Why would you want to make them worse

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-astroworld-travis-head-travis-scott-head-travis-scott-headache-gif-23896240

[radiant frigate]

they don't even have a big sword

mid

[jovial juniper]

I am immune to propaganda

[loud girder]

lol lmao even

maybe in 2 years

[marble crater]

But dog

[jovial juniper]

The dog is cool though

[dull scroll]

was, WAS cool

past tense

very important

[loud girder]

will be cool again when EO is fixed

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-force-unleashed-force-unleashed2-your-feelings-for-her-are-not-real-they-are-real-to-me-gif-21341063

They are still to me!

[radiant frigate]

the dog is only relevant to me due to lack of reconlas

[loud girder]

unless u mean was cool when bleed was farming 1 million dmg

that's never coming back

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/desiler-giga-chad-gif-9574825124538696572

FS somehow brought Sister of Thorns for a while

[loud girder]

it made a guy in arbite channel crash out for like 12 hours in a row

then dissapear for a week

bro literally died

[radiant frigate]

because of a dog fix?

[jovial juniper]

Going through the stages of grieving

[loud girder]

nah so basically dog was literally farming the entire map and bro crashed tf out over how busted it was

[paper oriole]

Sad he now needs to play the game 😦

[loud girder]

he was acting like judgement day is here cause dog was giga strong

[dull scroll]

this is the result of peak doggo

[sturdy dagger]

[sturdy dagger]

so sigma

[dull scroll]

it's all gone now

class dead

[radiant frigate]

arbites would be better with a big armored cat

[paper oriole]

Hoped they didn't played over 2 hours and can still refund the dlc

[dull scroll]

but yeah, the 1mil doggo meme wasn't a joke

[kindred geyser]

dude arby chat is like crash out central every time anything happens

[dull scroll]

these were times of legend

[kindred geyser]

[paper oriole]

They should be crashing out - they paid extra money for this class

[kindred geyser]

legit saw people saying that the bleed thing was intended behavior

like ????

[paper oriole]

I am sure some bought the dlc just cause the class is strong and now they feel cheated

[gray juniper]

Son let me tell of the legend of ol yeller

[loud girder]

i mean the bleed bug happened AFTER certain patches

it wasnt intended at all

and quite frankly not needed

class is giga strong without it

[marsh ore]

what is a good all around pskyer build

[kindred geyser]

flame staff and nothing else

[marsh ore]

im using an assail build rn and its lacking in dmg

[kindred geyser]

just flame on

[paper oriole]

I trust you on this but I think most people don't know it, just surface level stuff

[gray juniper]

Anyone up to help me do havoc 25?

[deft stump]

This is why gacha games try to not touch a char unless it stops working after pushing it out. Lawsuit risks.

[paper oriole]

Liie - I heard it just now from you but about the nerf/fix I read like 20+ times

[dull scroll]

what region?

[gray juniper]

USA east

[dull scroll]

sure why not

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[gray juniper]

Ty ty

[jovial juniper]

Me omw to say every class is a paid class

[near gale]

people get tilted all the time when they have to start playing the game cause something broken/unintended gets fixed >.>

[deft stump]

They test the char on a test server before releasing.

[marsh ore]

wdym

what talents

and blessings

[jovial juniper]

The same test server that released Arby's with Vet crashing

[near gale]

Someone told me they hope my car starts making noises when I said I was glad the dog bleed thing got fixed on arby

[jovial juniper]

Geez the tester fucked up

[loud girder]

basically what happened is

unintended interaction between puncture blessing and dog explosition blitz resulted in a very strong blitz that wasnt intended
class got patched
by patching this one they fked up another bleed related blessing
class got patched again to fix it
they bugged an entire keystone by doing so
they went on vacation

[paper oriole]

Nooo, don't say that - you are gonna make everyone think to much 🫣

[deft stump]

Like they forgot to test it with that one other ability that changes ping.

[gray juniper]

Arbites players worse than sports gamers

[jovial juniper]

Peak Fatshark right there

😭

[paper oriole]

Yeah, I agree with you. The "game needs no fixes" crowd is the worst

[jovial juniper]

15 days away from a hotfix rn

[kindred geyser]

arbites players on their way to leak classified imperium documents to get their class buffed

[gray juniper]

We’re in strike team 4

[near gale]

same for the "no nerfs only buffs" crowd

[deft stump]

Totally great leaving the paid class that they broke with a clearly untested hotfix for a near month long vacation.

[loud girder]

they broke it 3 times mind you

https://tenor.com/view/whack-a-mole-cute-cat-funny-gif-14926253

fatshark patching arby

[paper oriole]

I support them on this, as a fellow job-have'r

[random thunder]

Ogryn chat is about ogryn because there's no reasons to talk about weaker classes, arbites is about real life because they're strong despite the bugs, psyker is about arbites, and vet is about vet because they can't afford anything else

Zealot is zealot.

[loud girder]

nah psyker chat is the most consistent chat when it comes to discussing their own class

and not shitposting

[kindred geyser]

I feel like I've seen less chat about zealots in zealot chat than anywhere else

[random thunder]

They're talking about coke because that's what you need to Speedrun

[deft stump]

I mean, just give the janitor overtime to push the hotfix.

[hearty wolf]

I see people playing together

The cat one

[deft stump]

As in, pay.

[paper oriole]

You can't if they have already validated vacations 🫣

And - if case the update brakes something major while everyone else is on vacation you are fucked

[thorn cedar]

That's just how it is.

[deft stump]

Wait, you can't be like, "Hey, would you go back to work on X if I gave you pay+overtime to just push this update?" IDK EU things tbh.

[deft stump]

Oh yeah, THAT.

[thorn cedar]

You could and they can still say no.

[deft stump]

Is FS, one thing fixed, two things breaks.

[paper oriole]

I am not from Sweden, I pressume im it could work like "Okay, mr. developer, you already have vacations in this day but I you could revoke them on your own to come in and work some we would pay you extra".

But it cant be an order from your employer top down

But and that to this someone having already a booked hotel and play and such and they will just refuse

[upbeat kestrel]

eu's vacation days are protected good

employ4ers may not accept cavation request

but not revoke one if im not mistaken

[thorn cedar]

I've got buddies who work in programming and one does what FatShark does, where lengthy vacation time happens annually at the same time as a group, which means projects pause predictably. The other lets people decide their own vacation days whenever and it's a nightmare because the pauses to production are inconsistent and you often don't even know that you needed Bob and Bob alone to complete a task until they've left.

[paper oriole]

Don't worry, most of EU doesn't know their stuff

[stable silo]

purge vs trauma staff

[paper oriole]

You are correct

[jovial juniper]

Incomparable mind

🗣️

[paper oriole]

Also, in some countries you are required to have at least one 14 day period of uninteruped vacations

[last shore]

was it music

[paper oriole]

Yeah, it is best when whole company takes the leave as one. Speaking from the owners perspective

[deft stump]

I'm not from EU, is why asking.

[deft stump]

Ah. Still wonder why launch a massive addition before a mass holiday. If something like this happens, there will be no fix for ages.

[paper oriole]

You mentioned that you are from SEA, do I recall correctly?

[thorn cedar]

Quarterly deadlines plus vacation upcoming.

[paper oriole]

It could be just deadlines or needs the cashflow

From people buying dlc

[deft stump]

Yep. A boss can totally call and ask you to come back to work here. You can refuse and they'll just ask another.

Till someone or a parttimer accepts it.

[loud girder]

yes

[vestal trench]

FGS gun psyker ruined zealot for me, i can't find a zealot build fun enough to stick to

[deft stump]

Some ppl straight up turn off their work phones for a reason.

[last shore]

yeah something's wrong with him in the head for sure

[deft stump]

To avoid such calls. XD

[loud girder]

https://tenor.com/view/hit-on-the-head-emoji-bat-gif-15059031914441491340

[paper oriole]

Damn, that sounds awful 😬
I hope you have a good boss and don’t have to deal with this nonsense

[deft stump]

That guy should just be blocked anyway. Very bad takes on literally every single class. Complains about zealot 'nades and Tknoifes ages ago and such. Says zealot 'nades are complete trash when it's more they have horsedook lvls of pathing.

[paper oriole]

Maybe that is why he joined the arbites 😂

[deft stump]

No job atm, been just doing part time short term stuff since easier. Harder to get fired over stuff when you won't see them after a day or three. Or ehm, maybe going back to offering some ppl smut for snacks.

[marble crater]

[long wharf]

As long as it's safer than operating behind a Denny's dumpster

[marsh ore]

whats the build

[paper oriole]

Is it that easy to get fired?
Sounds like is really rough for you

[paper oriole]

I might not mean much but I hope it will get better in the future 🙂

[random thunder]

he is still here?

[deft stump]

Wait, wat.

[hearty wolf]

I'm otw home

[deft stump]

I'm autistic. I will end up fighting with ppl who are rude to me. Even if it's the boss. I tend to also do things my way even if same results.

[deft stump]

That guy? Shows up randomly around. Might be in another chat.

[vestal trench]

for gun psyker? i just run this #psyker-class message

[marsh ore]

ty

[vestal trench]

i'd assume thats what youre asking since zealot only has one build lmfao

[marsh ore]

yea also what gun do you use

and how good is it

[vestal trench]

i kinda just rotate between the suggested guns depending on mood, they're all good (vraks infantry auto, recon las, heavy laspistol)

theres more gun options

i forget which

i think bolt pistol?

[deft stump]

Bistol is mostly for meleeker with FGS and assail.

Puncture works on warpslash and assail.

[vestal trench]

for some reason i thought that was patched

welp theres another option

im still wondering which guns are good at carapace till up to havoc

so i can run heavy sword without just staring at crushers

[long wharf]

it's called "trauma staff" or "surge staff"

[vestal trench]

oh

[hearty wolf]

When are we going to get a glaive

[vestal trench]

im asking for my zealot LMAO

[deft stump]

They fixed it with dog by removing the ranged tag on dog boom.

[vestal trench]

asking here bc my mileage has been inconsistent asking in actual zealot chat

that place doesnt pass the vibe check

[long wharf]

... only thing zealot is good for is boss bonking and giving temp toughness often

[hearty wolf]

Carapace with guns is kind of yuck. Bolt gun otherwise

Brrrr

[deft stump]

IDK why dog boom was coded as RANGED.

[long wharf]

because it's a ranged attack

the problem isn't how dog boom was coded

the problem is the devs are too lazy to make sure that the weapon blessings check to see that their weapon is currently active before applying

some blessings do check, most do not

[deft stump]

But it has to be done per instance of it, since any other funni puncture thing seems to work still.

[long wharf]

welcome to Lua, a typeless, non-object oriented scripting language

totally unsuitable to large, complex codebases

[marsh ore]

what blessings should i be using

[deft stump]

But is still good on Zealot anyway, you just skip Lethal, get puncture and something else.

[last shore]

yeah he's notorious for it. Same issues in sm2 too

[deft stump]

He plays that as well?

[last shore]

yes

[long wharf]

I'm pretty sure there's massive overlap between Darktide and Space Marine 2 communities

[hearty wolf]

Is sm2 any good 🤔

[long wharf]

SM2 is "melee first, ranged second" gameplay

[deft stump]

Like, some bad takes might be taste, but his takes makes no sense at all.

[last shore]

got stale

[long wharf]

SM2 is good with friends, I main Heavy, and I'm not happy with the prestige perks Heavy gets

[loud girder]

yes but not as deep as darktide

so if you're looking for depth and really high replay value it aint it

i still put 300 hours into it

[loud girder]

not true anymore ranged dominate siege mode and higher diffs

and ranged is mandatory for chp recovery

its a 50/50 game imo

[long wharf]

SM2 devs themselves described it as "melee focused with ranged"

[deft stump]

Isn't DT that as well?

[loud girder]

well then they fked up

[long wharf]

not at all

[vestal trench]

uhhh i cant remember off top my head

cant check rn

[loud girder]

lets put it this way, chp is one of the core mechanics and its borderline not possible melee only

u NEED to pull up your ranged and start blasting

[vestal trench]

try searching blessings for specific weapon youre looking for in the discord search

[paper oriole]

Love your profile picture, majestic 👌

[marsh ore]

alr ty

[loud girder]

adam jensen my beloved

[deft stump]

Like you want to melee primarily and shooting is more for elites and specials? Unless psyker.

[loud girder]

DT is more melee focused for me tbh

u can fully sustain yourself in melee in DT

[vestal trench]

yea boltgun seems best option tbh

[long wharf]

when I play psyker, it's 50/50 (because not caring about ammo)

[vestal trench]

using the flamer just makes me go "why am i not just on inferno staff rn"

[long wharf]

when I play arbites, it's 75/25

[loud girder]

psyker can also just blender everything in melee, u just need to be a dodge god

[long wharf]

where shotgun is for specialists and bosses

[loud girder]

sm2 is very much a 50/50 game and the "melee" class in it is currently the worst performing one

(assault)

[long wharf]

assault's biggest problem is the order in which it gets its perks

[loud girder]

assault destroys tyranids but is the hardest to play against chaos cause bro doesnt have good defenses against ranged

[long wharf]

the class doesn't fully come online until really late (level 25 or so, I think)

[loud girder]

im max prestige 4 and love assault

[long wharf]

chaos is a problem entirely with their game design

[loud girder]

its also cbt to play assault against chaos compared to every other class

[long wharf]

they have plenty of ranged, teleport away with impunity, and the ones that want to get into melee have unstoppable attacks

chaos is legitimately unfun to fight

[loud girder]

sure but they're way easier if u can abuse chp with classes that have good ranged weapons

since melee chp recovery is bad

heavy can just facetank and get all of it back with melta spam

[strange igloo]

I mean Nurgle is chaos

[long wharf]

I generally agree that SM2 has far less replay value than Darktide

I enjoy Darktide much more than SM2

[loud girder]

tbh for what it is i put tons of hours into it

sm2 is a throwback style game

[long wharf]

but playing SM2 campaign with friends, especially the first time, was an absolute blast

[strange igloo]

it was definitely fun for a sec. But yea kinda unfun after the first playthrough imo

[loud girder]

darktide is autism

[hearty wolf]

That's still a really good amount

[loud girder]

ye

most of people i know who said it got stale also put in the same

which is plenty

[long wharf]

sadly siege mode didn't really do anything to change that

[loud girder]

siege mode is very fun its also buggy and kills my pc so waiting for fixes

[deft stump]

They just be tanky bros though.

[hearty wolf]

I mean either way, it's still getting updates right? So they can cook

[loud girder]

yeah

siege mode was released around the time arbite came out

[long wharf]

SM2 has a new class coming

we'll see what the techmarine is like

problem is the devs still aren't allowing multiple of the same class in a party

[loud girder]

tech marine, power axe, new operation, revamped customization
also a second season pass

[long wharf]

that's going to seriously dampen people wanting to play the game

[loud girder]

the lobby system is hot trash

[long wharf]

I don't see how a second season pass is feasible at all for SM2

there's not enough content

[loud girder]

i mean first season pass is jut cosmetics

lol

they'll sell it to hardcores still playing

[long wharf]

I guess

it still amazes me how whale-y WH40k fans really are

just... absurd acceptance in spending money on the IP

I say that as an owner of far too many premium cosmetics in Darktide

[loud girder]

as far as whaling goes sm2 is on the cheaper side
u can buy the entire season pass with 1 billion skins and paintjobs and champion packls for the price of like 2 darktide premiums sets

puts fatshark to shame

[strange igloo]

also ngl, Darktide sets kinda suck too

[long wharf]

FartShack's pricing is really bad

[loud girder]

at least 50% are really bad with tons of clipping issues

[long wharf]

they have everything in place to offer people the ability to buy colors and materials for models

[strange igloo]

I'd honestly be willing to pay for cosmetics if they actually were appealing

[long wharf]

instead of selling individually recolored versions

[loud girder]

the inquestion rotation (one before current one) was amazing

the russian skins were sick

[random thunder]

premium outfit of arbites and psyker fucking rock but i don't want to reward fatshark for their bullshit

[loud girder]

they can put out some bangers

[strange igloo]

I actually haven't looked at shop since playing again (I just started back last week) so I need to see if they've added anything worthwhile

[analog verge]

current ones eh, last one was really good imo

[strange igloo]

but I've yet to look at the shop and go "yea I want that"

[analog verge]

they need some more interesting weapon skins too, the revolver one was cool

[paper oriole]

Model prices 🫣

[long wharf]

that's definitely part of it

[thorn cedar]

i dont fault fatshark for skins looking kinda shit because honestly i find the entire warhammer aesthetic to be fucken stupid looking

[analog verge]

also please please please some half decent non-aquila weapon skins fatshark please

[loud girder]

wot da hyll

40k aesthetic is peak

oversized buildings oversized weapons

[long wharf]

well...

some of the aesthetic is good

[loud girder]

by some you mean all haha

[strange igloo]

Im kinda with Exploits

[analog verge]

i dont even pick up games if i hate the artstyle/aesthetic

[long wharf]

some of it is... anachronistic today

[thorn cedar]

the world aesthetic, like fatshark has made out of tertium, is pretty cool

[thorn cedar]

but the shit people wear?

[analog verge]

peak

[thorn cedar]

fucking discount larpers

[strange igloo]

^

[thorn cedar]

oversized warcraft 3 cosplayers

[long wharf]

and that's just the Nurgle fans

[loud girder]

there's a lot of variety in this u gotta be more specific

[thorn cedar]

and shit you thought was cool in kindergarten and should hopefully just think is funny now

[strange igloo]

I have to agree that the "oversized" look is rarely the better option

[analog verge]

thats like, maybe astartes at most

[vestal trench]

wait didnt warcraft take a lot of inspiration from warhammer?

[long wharf]

this is entirely how I see Spacemarines

[loud girder]

there's 1 billion factions and 1 billion subfactions and 1 billion looks

40k aesthetic is too large to be grouped into 1 group

[long wharf]

that said - I absolutely love the psyker looks in Darktide with tubes

tubes on the head, arms, connecting parts of bodies

pump warp through all the tubes

[thorn cedar]

there's only one actual good design in the entire warhammer franchise

[analog verge]

space marines look fine as long as you dont go off the chunky, short limbed old miniatures

[loud girder]

noise marines my beloved

[median trout]

yeah warcraft was supposed to be a warhammer game according to one producer

[vestal trench]

based and slaaneshpilled

[analog verge]

the psyker tubes are water cooling

[long wharf]

the problem with most of the vehicles designs in WH40k is that they were meant to look futuristic at the time of their conception, decades ago

[vestal trench]

i think a lot of the eldar designs are sleek though

[long wharf]

none of the designs hold up as "futuristic" today

oversized weapons is one thing

[analog verge]

i think any attempt to make them more futuristic would just go into eldar tech territory

[long wharf]

that's a big problem

[loud girder]

40k was never meant to look hyper futureistic
the design was always medieval but in space

[analog verge]

i dont want anything to be smooth or sleek in the imperium of man

[vestal trench]

i also really like the genestealer cult designs for what they are

[loud girder]

that's literally the entire thing about the imperium

[long wharf]

oh, I know

[loud girder]

they USED to look hyper advanced sci fi funnies and now they lost all that shit

and reverted to medieval savagery

[vestal trench]

yeehaw cowboy shit

[loud girder]

if u want hyper future designs, tau got u covered

clean af mechas

[analog verge]

whats that fuckers name again

[vestal trench]

i do agree with the space marines though

[thorn cedar]

cant believe we're playing as space skaven

[long wharf]

fundamentally, all of the designs are meant to look good as models on the table first

and that's fine

[vestal trench]

kelermorphs

[analog verge]

skaven are peak, thats why

[analog verge]

thats it

was thinking kemmlerites

[long wharf]

that kind of design does not automatically translate well to virtual models animating on-screen

[vestal trench]

but yea i find it annoying that space marine lore get the most shit when i cant take them seriously with their big ass power armor

[loud girder]

marines are also too varied to be grouped into 1 thing

[vestal trench]

chaos is at least interesting

loyalists 🤢

fuck da space wolves

[long wharf]

space furries, you mean

[analog verge]

they look pretty good in astartes

i honestly think that the minis are the uglier version

[loud girder]

idk man 40k is the type of setting where one of the giant nukes is a walking church
i love the over the top nature
there are 1 billion other sci fi works with grounded designs

[vestal trench]

i think my favorite oversized faction's like

knights

[vestal trench]

oh dont get me wrong

[analog verge]

when do we get the 6th darktide class, imperial knight

[vestal trench]

i wouldnt change a thing about em

aesthetically

i even appreciate most of the lore

[analog verge]

it takes no toughness damage. or regular damage

[vestal trench]

i just dont fw them as much as other factions and which non space marines got more lore

[loud girder]

yeah that's fair

[median trout]

funny because the knights are the most silly oversized goofs there are

[loud girder]

good thing about the setting is there';s something for everyone

[vestal trench]

yup

except if youre an eldar fan i guess

you get that sick fuck gav thorpe

and his masochistic tendencies

[loud girder]

u got oversized toy armies, oversized gundams, oversized space elves, oversized walking churches, oversized bugs

[analog verge]

the issue is that we dont have tide games from every other factions perspective

clearly

[vestal trench]

but yea i do like that about the setting

i didnt like the tau when i started

i like em now

[loud girder]

i like mecha so tau are based

[long wharf]

the number one problem with the setting as a whole is that it suffers from what I call "design baggage"

for the first 15 or so years of WH40k, it was intentionally silly

barely tongue-in-cheek spoofs, wild designs, and lore to match

and then GW tried to get more gritty with it

[paper oriole]

What do you mean?
The get “to suffer” 🙃

[long wharf]

and somewhere along the way, they started taking themselves too seriously

[vestal trench]

theres this one comic on reddit about like

this guardsman defecting to the tau

bc of water caste gaslighting

it brought me a new appreciation for them

[vestal trench]

why doesent the knight simply step on tertium

[long wharf]

"Why doesn't the larger faction simply eat the smaller one?"

[vestal trench]

more on aesthetics, this look goes hard

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/zipperer-why-does-ross-the-largest-friend-not-simply-eat-the-other-five-gif-16340762

[analog verge]

they shrunk it to human height, really sad

[vestal trench]

god that reminds me

i like arbites well enough but i still wish we got skitarii first

[median trout]

i honestly feel that the whole thing about 40k is that they are a total crazy balls to the walls setting and they taking themselves seriously is what makes it work, kinda like jojo

[paper oriole]

I have to disagree, biggest problem with the setting that I only either does bigger the life stories or super small stories

Also in 40k most of stuff that happens doesn’t affect the setting in the slightest

[analog verge]

honestly i dont believe we'll get a sixth class but im still holding out a bit of hope

[median trout]

And i say this about the OG 40k lore coming from the Codexes, the books and games are different

[analog verge]

i liked the idea of a mechanicus adjacent class

give me tf2 minisentry

do it

[vestal trench]

with how they phrased arbites as their "first dlc class" or something along those lines im optimistic

[long wharf]

SM2 Techmarine is likely getting something like that

an automated defense turret

[vestal trench]

but it probably wont be in the near future with how the balancing of arbites ended up lmao

[paper oriole]

Knowing game development they already have 2nd class in the workings

[long wharf]

I highly doubt it

[paper oriole]

And 3rd getting planned

[long wharf]

nope

[paper oriole]

Why?

[vestal trench]

are psykers and chaplains in sm2?

[long wharf]

I don't think a 2nd class is even started

[vestal trench]

i think theyre at the very least thinking about it

arbites launch came with a playerbase spike and im assuming a decent amount of sales

[analog verge]

given the 3 paths each skill tree has they already have almost as many "careers" as vermintide did

arbites is probably selling well with everyone going on about how broken it is

anyone have insider knowledge on fatshark

[paper oriole]

I doubt that they would tell that in server run by fatshark

[vestal trench]

they should make a dlc for the dlc

femboy arbites with catstiff

the nuncio goes nyaa

[long wharf]

you're fired

pack your shit and leave.

[vestal trench]

break the line is nuzzles uwu glomp

[long wharf]

security is on its way

[analog verge]

yeah sure why not ill pay an extra 12 bucks for that

[paper oriole]

I think they are further, I remember hearing in VT2 days that they stated working on one career after previous one lanuched

I mean actually working, not planning or consenting

[analog verge]

itll be more interesting than most of the cosmetics

[paper oriole]

Don’t we have that already ?

[analog verge]

anyone working for fatshark willing to lose their job so i can know?

theres gotta b someone

[analog verge]

...no?

i mean i gues depending on the person behind the screen?

[paper oriole]

Or character you made 🫣

[analog verge]

it is

[paper oriole]

• a mode or something

[analog verge]

really hard to make a femboy with darktide character customization

making someone attractive in general is tough

thats why 4/5 of my characters are old men and the 5th is markiplier

[paper oriole]

You said a lot of things right now

So, old men are not attractive but femboys are?

Very judgmental

[analog verge]

not the old men i have for my characters

[long wharf]

I want out of this conversation

this kind of bullshit needs to stay in its proper place

[analog verge]

you can change the topic

[long wharf]

#zealot-class is leaking

[analog verge]

you can do it

[paper oriole]

What do they talk about normaly?

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/atlantis-you-dont-want-to-gif-26076225

[paper oriole]

Fair, I will trust you on this one

[analog verge]

it makes sense, they only have one build to talk about in there so they gotta look for anything else

[paper oriole]

So - do you have any 40 minis?

[long wharf]

I don't play the tabletop

I'm actually not a fan of physical wargames

too much info to track

[analog verge]

im broke but i look longingly at them sometimes as my rain machine creates an appropriate atmosphere and fries my electronics

[paper oriole]

Are you a Techpriest?

[paper oriole]

Have you given skirmish game a try?

[long wharf]

nope

[long wharf]

no need to cross-post stuff

[analog verge]

if i was then the water would be making everything work better

[vestal trench]

i still dont know why zealot chat got slowmoded tbf

like shit seems like even one of their main build/numbers people either got banned or left

[analog verge]

banned i think

maybe zealot players are way more online than everyone else?

[vestal trench]

yeah usually vet and psyker channel are chill

arbites is unhinged but thats cause it's the new thing

no idea for oggies

[hearty wolf]

You clearly haven't been in Zealot chat during the furry talks.

[vestal trench]

zealot has way more of the fighting self-made demons type shit

i asked about weapon performance once and immediately got hit with "play whats fun "

i stopped browsing reddit to get away from that behavior bruh

[vestal trench]

the what

[jovial juniper]

Slur incident plus 2 years of freak posting

[vestal trench]

THE WHAT

[jovial juniper]

Freak posting

[vestal trench]

[jovial juniper]

Mpregs and shit

[hearty wolf]

Which one, there's been multiple kek

[vestal trench]

jesus christ

lmao

[jovial juniper]

[vestal trench]

ok now i get why phoenix immediately got nam flashbacks when i memed femboy arbites

[hearty wolf]

Zealot chat is also where all the drama comes from

[vestal trench]

🔫 put too much sugar in my tea

[ornate hamlet]

General 2

[paper oriole]

Do they not know that zealot should kill furries?

[analog verge]

assail assail smite enhanced power scriers gaze

[long wharf]

if everyone works to keep the degeneracy contained, we can all have normal conversations

[analog verge]

you fool

every zealot is a furry

[vestal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-heel-turn-evil-wwe-quick-change-gif-18159735915411829703

im sorry psyker chat

i am now curious about trying an EP smite build

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/r-truth-entrance-snme-ron-cena-gif-11946091649035626723

It's the best.

Super op.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/desiler-giga-chad-gif-9574825124538696572

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/i-expect-a-full-apology-johnny-rose-johnny-eugene-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20290711

[vestal trench]

#psyker-class message guessing i can use this?

if it's any consolation, i won't play it in pubs

[rose nexus]

There is

[jovial juniper]

Drop Expenditure for Enfeeble

Or lighting storm

Whatever the left side is

[stark crown]

EP Assail and just make your teammates hate you in a different flavor

[sinful perch]

Going from Arbite to psyker is so rough I die from a light breeze 😭

[vestal trench]

o no not punpun

and yea takes some getting used to

arbites ogryn and zealot all have an easier time surviving

[jovial juniper]

Just dodge lol

[stark crown]

Veteran and Psyker getting nuked instantly in Havoc

[jovial juniper]

I mean

At least vet has iron will

[stark crown]

Yeah true

Psyker gets dumpstered no matter what

Vet at least has all or nothing on their side

Not the blessing…..

[coral jungle]

Whats the easiest mission to get the cliffhanger challenge done? I keep seeing different recommendations on youtube and i do them just not get any progress towards it

[loud girder]

another reason why havoc is shieieit

doesnt matter if you';re the dps king when 1 light breeze kills you

[marble crater]

For me it was the video that's pinned as part of the cliffhanger tips

[vestal trench]

#psyker-class message

[stark crown]

EE Abuse and Shield or extreme caution and using cover as much as possible

Veteran it’s the same except it’s kill it before it kills you for toughness and spam VOC

[coral jungle]

I tried that and i never got anything close to the amount of enemies in that video to even spawn

[dull scroll]

hol up, why we talking about vet as if it's as squash as psykers

the class' got enough toughness dmg reduction to tank overheads

[stark crown]

In one scenario

[loud girder]

which leads to only really skilled players using it
oh wait that was the point of havoc

[marble crater]

That's unlucky

[stark crown]

If you want to see tanking overheads check out Arby and Ogryn lmao

[loud girder]

true grit should not exist

[stark crown]

Casti stance literally not giving a fuck about Crusher spam it’s insane

[dull scroll]

true grit is OP, but ironically it's position makes a lot of builds to actually just ditch it

[stark crown]

Forceful?

[loud girder]

casti stance having an easily reachable cooldown 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[stark crown]

The keystone that’s also

Ludicrously strong lmao

[loud girder]

people are forced to paly forceful now

since EO is bugged

or terminus warrant is.....

[stark crown]

Hell the reason why both Psyker and Vet get nuked in their scenarios is cause they have one thing in common the 3 others don’t

[vestal trench]

does forceful suffer too much with final toll? or is it fine as long as you bring the weak points count as stagger talent?

[stark crown]

Strictly only Toughness Damage Reduction talents

[jovial juniper]

You can take no damage if you just dodge

[loud girder]

i have no clue i havent played any havoc above 20s in ages

[jovial juniper]

It'll be fine with the talent

Plus red enemies are at critical health anyways

[loud girder]

but yeah concussive makes them count as staggered

[vestal trench]

u

[loud girder]

and applies the 1 billion 15% extra dmg nodes

[vestal trench]

i fucking deranked from havoc 27 to 21 over the course of this week

[loud girder]

havoc with no premades experience

[vestal trench]

i need the diamantine

[dull scroll]

shoulda marathoned havoc when the arby dog still did mils 😏

[vestal trench]

but yea i think i'll just run it with my homies

we climb slow but we climb together

[loud girder]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-clothesline-from-hell-jbl-gif-17471585

[vestal trench]

(our squad struggling at havoc 21)

[vestal trench]

my only havoc 40 clear was when arby dog could kill god

[jovial juniper]

I deranked all the way to h20

[vestal trench]

i wasnt using the arby but yea

[jovial juniper]

Now I'm going to h25

And will be accepting anyone going for the penance

[dull scroll]

why didn't you just dodge???

bro??

[jovial juniper]

I did

That's how I deranked

[loud girder]

shoulda dodged harder

[jovial juniper]

Didn't play havoc for weeks

The havoc reset twice

I played LoL
I know how to dodge games

And get 5 minutes time out

[ornate hamlet]

my condolences

[jovial juniper]

Thx

[dull scroll]

oookay that's why, you dodging lobbies not attacks smh

[stark crown]

UNLESS ITS OURPLE

Then you’ll have scenarios of Full HP Final Tolls Elites

[jovial juniper]

I'm built different

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-better-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-im-better-gif-25853880

[summer token]

how many times should one have to ping a crusher before a single teammate opens their eyes and comes to help? because apparently it's more than 8 based on my last mission

[plucky flax]

Sry was me. Crusher too scary

[long wharf]

crushers just want hugs

they need love too

[summer token]

what is finesse? and what's considered the dump stat for a force sword?

[analog verge]

dont you ping enemies so your teammates will watch you kill them and applaud?

[analog verge]

increases damage to weakspots (like heads) and critical hit damage

warp resistance is dump stat

[jovial juniper]

As a stat, weakspot and critical damage, attack speed
As a buff, weakspot and critical damage

[summer token]

no i ping them because i'm about to take a giant block of concrete up my rear end and would like a little help lol

[analog verge]

you want your team to watch you take a giant block of concrete up your rear end?

little odd but we're accepting here

[summer token]

every sword in the shop right now has 79 or 80 warp resist

[analog verge]

no but i try to kill whatever is pinged immediately

because im blind and cant see anything that isnt bright red

[analog verge]

Gamble.

[long wharf]

here's the thing with pinging - you may mean "hey I need help with this", but everyone else thinks it means "this is a priority target"

[summer token]

is force sword decent enough against armor? obviously force greatsword and inferno staff is not the move against crisher pain trains

[long wharf]

and if people are busy with their own threats, your ping is going to go ignored

if you find yourself in trouble, pinging isn't going to get you out of that trouble

[jovial juniper]

Deimos and Obscurus will absolutely wreck armor

[long wharf]

and other players likely won't know until you go down or die

[jovial juniper]

Obscurus might be the best one available for that reason

[analog verge]

yes just make sure to aim for the head as with all weapons

[summer token]

the thing is the rest of the team was standing inside my bubble that the crusher chased me out of and doing next to nothing because we were between spawn waves on that area, priority target or i need help would both have been acceptable responses to the ping in that instance

[analog verge]

deimos h2 (i think thats the one, its the thrust) will stagger even crushers

push attack also staggers them

[dull scroll]

acktually

[long wharf]

well, if you can't handle a single crusher, then... that's a different conversation entirely

either about skills, build, or both

[summer token]

i mean you just saw what i was working with for equipment in the message right below yours

[analog verge]

fgs push attack should also stagger crushers if you want to have less concrete inside you

[long wharf]

there's no need to push attack with fgs

[analog verge]

but generally pub teammates are blind as hell

[long wharf]

just heavy swing/stab

[marble crater]

Please no flame

[long wharf]

they'll die in two

[long wharf]

speaking truth isn't flaming

[analog verge]

safetys safety

[long wharf]

nope, didn't see it

[radiant frigate]

hmm today i will get 100% extra damage from various random sources

[long wharf]

regardless, while psyker is certainly squishier than the other classes, a single crusher shouldn't pose a problem

[wind wind]

Btw can anyone of you teach me the ways of

A) the deimos single handed force sword
B) what nodes make psyker tanky?

Please

[radiant frigate]

single crusher is food

[summer token]

just took 6 heavy attacks to kill one with 3 of them being crits, with a fully optimized and max sword sure maybe but that's obviously not the case for me and it also doesn't account for any other enemies i had to deal with at the same time

[radiant frigate]

even for a level 1 baby psyker

[radiant frigate]

hit noggin

[long wharf]

... it should never take 6 heavy attacks to the head to kill a single crusher with a FGS

[analog verge]

heavy attacks

[long wharf]

and with crushers, you shouldn't be hitting anywhere else

[analog verge]

aim for head

it kill

[long wharf]

the FGS is great at taking down armored enemies with heavy swings

the only thing better in the psyker's arsenal is the ds4

[loud girder]

peak

[analog verge]

when do they make force dueling sword that brainbursts enemies

[summer token]

heavy hit to the head does 658 damage, and of course i'm hitting the head where else would i be hitting it?

[vestal trench]

can inferno m1 stagger crushers? or just ragers? i forget

[dull scroll]

only ragers

[vestal trench]

ah gotcha

[dull scroll]

very sad

[vestal trench]

should probably keep deimos to knock crushers on their ass then

[radiant frigate]

a. heavies single target lights for horde (or staff)
b. tankiest nodes are one with the warp, empathic evasion with the right loadout, kinetic deflection

[dull scroll]

you don't need deimos, any force sword's secondary push can do that

[radiant frigate]

..with fgs?

[analog verge]

deimos h2 can stagger and deal damage though, so pretty cool

[wind wind]

Thank you alot.

Will heed that

[vestal trench]

i mean thats fair but the H2 deimos does good damage and stagger so

two birds one stone and all that

i do miss running obscurus tho LOL

[analog verge]

given everything else im guessing not maxxed out

[dull scroll]

it is, but you have to cancel that useless h1, very awkward in a tight spot 😒

[vestal trench]

oh you dont l1 -> h2?

[analog verge]

i know ive been playing for 2 years and my material sitution is still dire

[wind wind]

I need to revamp almost all my builds. They are all from a year ago, stolen from the Internet (YouTubers like Mister E and Tanner) and are seriously outdated

[vestal trench]

the double poke comes fast enough for my purposes usually

what i forget is block cancelling after the h2

[radiant frigate]

tanner, now that's a name i haven't heard in a while

[vestal trench]

but yeah even an unupgraded FGS should be able to PA knock a crusher no?

[long wharf]

I haven't touched a normal force sword since the ds4 was made what it is today

[radiant frigate]

i have touched a normal force sword but it wasn't on my psyke

r

[long wharf]

and I think the FGS is superior to the deimos force sword for dispatching armor

[vestal trench]

i used to like DS on launch

[radiant frigate]

fgs is a little less mobile but BIG SWORD

[vestal trench]

dont enjoy it as much anymore

[long wharf]

the DS on launch wasn't anywhere near as good as it is now

[dull scroll]

you'll need a force sword if not running bubble in high havoc, without deflector you'll be sitting ducks when caught in the open

[vestal trench]

obscurus is really fast for dispatching elites too

not sure if as fast as fgs but

[dull scroll]

hell even with bubble having deflector still isn't bad

[long wharf]

I don't care for the obscurus moveset

[vestal trench]

i find i value the mobility way more if i have a staff

[long wharf]

not when you have the illisi and deimos

[vestal trench]

fair enough

[radiant frigate]

after the addition of psyker melee talents, i stopped using illisi

[vestal trench]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CfQvmicdYoM i find this combo more intuitive to do than the block cancel on deimos

[dull scroll]

illisi is a budget FGS 😏

[long wharf]

I'm also not a fan of needing to learn to cancel specific swings in order to optimize a weapon's usage

spamming lights vs heavies for specific enemies is fine

[radiant frigate]

fgs is illisi if it had cool overheads and shanks

[long wharf]

but going l1->h2->push->cancel->jump->spin->dance I don't want to bother with

[vestal trench]

totally fair

i enjoy it for some weapons more than others

like block cancelling power sword special activation

[long wharf]

if I have to click 100 times a second to maximize a weapon's potential (looking at you knife and tacaxe), I also won't bother

[radiant frigate]

lilstab bigstab block for 0.1s lilstab bigstab blo-

[vestal trench]

LOL

thats just healthy

all the power to you

tac axe and knife (carpal tunnel)

[radiant frigate]

tac axe is pretty zippy

[vestal trench]

wait pfhoenix which fgs mark do you run?

[radiant frigate]

say 6 because it is the correct answer

[vestal trench]

i dont have the numbers off the top my head but iirc the one i use does have some combo you gotta be mindful of

like having to heavy after doing the uppercut

[long wharf]

the one with the harder hitting heavy

[radiant frigate]

for hordes you mean?

yeah that's 6

[vestal trench]

yea

[long wharf]

it's not quite as good against the horde

[vestal trench]

i know the other mark has a good stab after the PA you can access but

[long wharf]

still mulches them though

[vestal trench]

feels clunkier

even if it does have a nicer horizontal swing pattern

[long wharf]

because the special does the heavy lifting on the horde

the vertical heavies make it killer on armor though

which is far more valuable to me

[dull scroll]

8 is the better horde clearer, 6 is the one with easier heavies for single targets

[vestal trench]

yeah i fuckin blew myself up on a havoc trying to 8

[long wharf]

with the 6, you can two-tap the ogryns

[vestal trench]

i push attacked at critical peril

[long wharf]

crusher, reaper, bulwark, doesn't matter

[vestal trench]

cause i was tryna get the stab

[long wharf]

chop->stab = dead

[dull scroll]

but, 8 has the better push atk, which makes it safer

[radiant frigate]

having to push attack to go into your single target combo is tupid

[long wharf]

especially when you dump warp res properly and a single special charge gets you +46% peril

[dull scroll]

you wouldn't say that when you have to carve into a doomstack

[radiant frigate]

other than PA heavy the openers are OOPS! all vanguards!

[long wharf]

a well rolled FGS enables you to edge the warp very easily

[radiant frigate]

mk6 special combos into shank so there is that

i find this preferable

[dull scroll]

heh, that little trick only works on ragers, crushers completely ignore no charge specials

[radiant frigate]

you didn't specify the type of doomstack

and mk6 can still do PA heavy, it just doesn't immediately go into a shank

[dull scroll]

true, I just personally spam force push a lot and therefore like the immediate stab that can one shot a lot of things

[radiant frigate]

that's preference

i prefer immediately being able to bonk from whatever position

[long wharf]

I almost never force push

the exception is to give me room against ragers

[sinful peak]

who up edging they warp

[topaz mesa]

The force great sword is my favorite weapon.. I'm trying to use the inferno staff and I keep going back to the sword..

[long wharf]

you can use both

[topaz mesa]

I do

But when there's a giant horde I'm trying to use the flame staff and then I go to the sword and it's just better.. I don't know. Maybe I'm a noob. I only have 50 hours in the game

[long wharf]

it's not you.. the purge staff doesn't feel good to use

[radiant frigate]

🅱️urgatus feels okay actually

[long wharf]

there's no feedback in audio or animation as you burn enemies

[radiant frigate]

but it does not pair well with fgs

[long wharf]

it doesn't sound compelling, either

I get that FartShack wanted it to sound distinct, but it's one of the few audio designs in the game that I don't care for

[topaz mesa]

Yeah, I feel like I'm lacking a mobility Sidearm

[thorn cedar]

Flamethrower on the other hand

[long wharf]

it sounds... wimpy and monotone

[radiant frigate]

issue with that setup in my opinion is that fgs is so beefy that it really wants you to focus on it, if you just need a melee for single target to go with flamer you would be better served with dueling sword

[long wharf]

the purge staff ought to have an otherworldy .. I dunno, "whine" or slight off-tonal hint to the sound

[plucky flax]

Burga

[long wharf]

it should sound like you're tearing reality just a little to spew warpfire

[topaz mesa]

I'm still learning the class and what's OP.. I just heard the inferno staff is game breaking so I'm trying to use it

[long wharf]

it's not game breaking, but it is incredibly good at its job

which is to burn everything

[ornate hamlet]

*lf

[long wharf]

I find that I just don't like playing with it

[ornate hamlet]

I did not take you for an FGS enjoyer

[long wharf]

there's nothing compelling in its design to me

[brazen rampart]

It's not "game breaking", it's just an infinite ammo flamer. It scales exponentially well as you go up in difficulty because it has infinite cleave and you'll get bigger hordes with more elites as you go up.

[ornate hamlet]

Purgatus has no oomph to it

[long wharf]

purge isn't king until you hit mid havocs

at that point, normal melee won't cut it for wiping out hordes quickly

[topaz mesa]

Ok

[ornate hamlet]

To me it's an effective weapon with dogshit feedback on what you're doing because everything is covered in blue and you just hear death sounds in the middle of the fire cloud

[topaz mesa]

Well I just started playing on malice lol

[brazen rampart]

The only thing noteworthy about purg other than its ability to scale into density is that the m1 puff can stagger ragers, even in h40. (unless they get stagger resistance from nurgle blessing or a havoc modifier)

[long wharf]

this is what I've been describing

[ornate hamlet]

Now if I use the funny arby shotgun

[long wharf]

it doesn't sound good to use, it doesn't look good to use, there's no animation feedback with how you use it

[radiant frigate]

what, me?

[long wharf]

the executioner shotgun feels great

[ornate hamlet]

I can feel the gun kicking, watch the enemy explode

[long wharf]

it works great

it sounds great

[ornate hamlet]

Voidstrike explodes everything into little bits too and it's the funny bowling staff

Trauma knocks huge ogryn crowds on their asses

[dull scroll]

purge's dmg is unmatched in 40, observe

[topaz mesa]

I tried using void strike and I blow up myself too easily

[ornate hamlet]

Purgatus is literally "oh wow everything is fainting, I think"

[radiant frigate]

purgatus lacks the satisfying crunch of fgs

and other staffs

[long wharf]

especially when you pair it with venting shriek and overstack soulblaze on top of whipping out your ds4 to get uncanny stacks going

[ornate hamlet]

Charged FGS specials

[long wharf]

there's a cleave limit on FGS specials

that said, the FGS special will go through walls, so there is that

[ornate hamlet]

Funny "horde unexist" button if you're playing on low ragdolls

Everything just Dragonball teleports into the warp

[plucky flax]

There's a cleave limit?

[long wharf]

on the FGS special? yes.

[plucky flax]

What is the limit?

[topaz mesa]

Why is this chat filled with women?

Lol ignore me

[ornate hamlet]

You're on the internet, my friend

[long wharf]

keep your shorts on, it's not

[ornate hamlet]

Half of the women are dudes

[topaz mesa]

Lol

[dull scroll]

cough, they aren't women cough

[plucky flax]

It's me I'm grill.

[topaz mesa]

I'm a girl too

[long wharf]

my Internet Guidance, established back in 1995, is "Everyone online is a 40 year old gay trucker until proven otherwise"

[topaz mesa]

Okay anyways I have things to do. I literally just got on this discord. So I wanted to see what was up in my classes chat. Have a great day everybody!

[brazen rampart]

Finally, someone else that subscribes to my line of thinking.

[radiant frigate]

have a great time

[dull scroll]

very nice, you femboys just scared away the newbie

[brazen rampart]

Mine is "everyone online is a morbidly obese fed until proven otherwise."

[ornate hamlet]

Imagine going into VC with this person with a Henry Cavill profile picture, they open their mouth and it's the most Hello Kitty girl voice you could think of

[long wharf]

both statements achieve the same, safe result

[radiant frigate]

that sounds like something a silly bugger would say

[brazen rampart]

It's miss kitty, literally.

[ornate hamlet]

"Oh, I just think Superman is cute haha"

[brazen rampart]

If you've ever been in a vc with her.

[ornate hamlet]

[brazen rampart]

Actual fuckin hello kitty voice, it's scary.

[ornate hamlet]

Any phone numbers I need to write down for future reference?

[long wharf]

567-8309

[radiant frigate]

yeah it's 1-800-MEOW-NYOW