#psyker-class

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hearty wolf
hearty wolf
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This one is actually a betrayal

elfin flower
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Like I am a terrible psyker so having to be team carry is not great

glacial vapor
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Team carrying on psyker is a nightmare

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Just barrel yourself and end the suffering

elfin flower
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It's not that terrible as I play high peril melee psyker

gray juniper
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Help out a scrub because I’m just giving up when there’s lots of pox bombers in a map. It’s like they don’t mind at all and I’m having to run through cloud after cloud

elfin flower
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Surprisingly quite tanky and high damaging if you can keep the intensity up

quartz barn
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Carrying on psyker is pretty easy compared to other classes imo

wraith sphinx
gray juniper
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It’s all fun and games until they hit maelstrom it seems

gray juniper
wraith sphinx
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oh

gray juniper
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I won’t burn you out on the game

elfin flower
wraith sphinx
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well fun fact I also got bursted thrice in that game because the arboobies kept shooting bursters just as I shoved them

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didn't go down once though 😎

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after the third time it happened I just stayed away from the group

elfin flower
potent echo
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Teach them to kill specials staregryn

gray juniper
strong gulch
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I wish I didn't need to sleep. I wanna stay up with no repercussions.

wraith sphinx
elfin flower
# hearty wolf You can shove them?

Once you hear their beeping suddenly speed just as they are about to dive into you you can push then dodge backwards to safely pop then without taking damage

quartz barn
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Just know where they are at all times

strong gulch
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Sin do goof.

quartz barn
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That way you dont get cucked by the sound bug

gray juniper
glacial vapor
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You can't shove bursters. This is misinformation

strong gulch
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Or the immune to pushes bug.

quartz barn
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That only happens when you push too late

wraith sphinx
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yeah you can push them back just as they're about to leap at you then dodge backwards immediately and avoid all damage

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rarely due to server fuckery the bursters will completely ignore you pushing them though

strong gulch
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Vets will shoot a burster in their own face like a bot

hearty wolf
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Take them out on my own terms

mental rock
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Nah bursters will also ignore your pushes if they are targeting someone else

wraith sphinx
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oh yeah that makes sense

gray juniper
mental rock
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Makes sense but it's annoying when you are trying to save a teammate from a burster and they just ignore the push and hit both of you

quartz barn
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Also dont use the staff bonk against bursters

strong gulch
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When no one else is around and the burster just chads its way through

elfin flower
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Hmm what no why is there suddenly a bunch of buster misinformation going on

quartz barn
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Sounds funni but doesnt push as far

mental rock
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"hey buddy let me help you by pushing this burst-" nope

gray juniper
elfin flower
gray juniper
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Yes

elfin flower
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They got a sound cue for when to push them

quartz barn
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Just run trauma and play minesweeper instead

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But you always get that guy that decides to run at the burster anyway and complain about getting hit

hearty wolf
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Just spamming doors for silent busters

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And then BOOM

gray juniper
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Btw does staff poke still make BoN throw up a player?

hearty wolf
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Also thanks for this. I've thought about this comment probably about 10 times already whenever I've had my coworkers message me asking for help.

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It's helping keeping me sane.

plucky flax
gray juniper
gray juniper
gray juniper
potent echo
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What is this staff poke tech whatthefuck_heresy

summer timber
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that is so stupid

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amazing that it works

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ridiculous that’s what it takes

strong gulch
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Uhh don't try it on havoc on a bridge with a wall of gunners on the other side.

Totally not based on a real scenario.

summer timber
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do all staves work with that

strong gulch
potent echo
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Not even the charged poke damn

hearty wolf
round summit
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is voidblast staff the one with AOE on the ground?

ornate hearth
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Hey all, i have been absolutely loving this psyker build with voidstrike, fgs, and assail. It's more or less a melee psyker and the staff comes out when good opportunities arise. Might not be optimal but it's a ton of fun to play and keeping peril up with the FGS is trivial for substantial clearing.

What is the opinion on EE without the flame staff or high RoF ranged attacks? Is it still worth running on a FGS with crit blessing? It would replace anticipation.

I have not played havic at all, but this build crushes all Auric content.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f655c69-5724-4d03-9c1a-805c087c7935/psyker-103

GamesLantern.com

Psyker build for Warhammer 40k: Darktide, using the Covenant Mk VI Blaze Force Greatsword and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff.

potent echo
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Personally would not take EE if you don't have a rapid fire option

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And yea that's the melee psyker template, many different things you can tweak. Also it's you who are crushing Aurics, not the build uwugryn

ornate hearth
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Thank you for the insight! I've been tinkering blessings on FGS a lot. Tried precog but felt like it was inconsistent with the 2s uptime and as a resultant didn't feel like it hit any noticeable breakpoint.

I love caraprice but I'm on the fence about unyielding. I feel like my Boss damage isn't good even with it and I'm just hitting a wet noodle. Maybe flak to help Horde clear breakpoint? Maniac to ensure mutant 1 shot? (Need to test if that breakpoint is possible)

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Both FGS marks are top tier. Once the DD stacks get rolling, i am 2 shot killing crushers with both marks so I feel like both are amazing.

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But loss of unyielding might break that 2 hit?

potent echo
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Unyielding damage is the best part on fgs

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Stab boss head

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Unyielding only affects bosses/bulwarks/reapers

ornate hearth
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Dang, really? I thought it included crushers due to size.

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TiL

potent echo
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Carapace - crushers/mauler(head)/scab rager(body)

ornate hearth
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Makes sense. I always assumed both worked on the crusher due to Ogryn under the helmet.

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One thing that really changed this build was one with the warp. The toughness defense is highly noticeable.

dull scroll
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how you get purples to spawn inside psych?

potent echo
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Gameslantern has an enemy compendium but idk if it's fully accurate

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Health seems sus but the rest seems to check out

plucky flax
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Bruh I gave a h29 clearance psyker a chance in h40.

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He died within the first encounter both rounds. On the 2nd round he just ragequitted and left strike team too.

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Super based.

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He's xbox/gamepass account and now offline so I can't even block him.

hearty wolf
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That's not even fading light 2 yet 😭

summer prairie
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with solo mod

hearty wolf
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🤔

plucky flax
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Me and other arby cleared the twins and a weakened bonbon but I was already checked out and ready to just afk.

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Then he went down and ye, that was it.

hearty wolf
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Maybe I'll try using the shield

plucky flax
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It's less horde clear than the shockmaul.

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But pretty nice against shooters.

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The round before this one was a vet instead of this arby and it was same thing. 3 of them died in the first encounter.

potent echo
plucky flax
quartz barn
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People in sub 30 complaining about not being let into high havoc groups

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Meanwhile this

potent echo
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It's kinda of chicken and egg problem

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Can't practice if no one let's them play

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Although rage quitting is poo

plucky flax
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Clearly a lot of guys are not ready for it but then cry about 'not given a chance' as nut said.

potent echo
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Trust me I have havoc forged chadgryn

quartz barn
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True, but theres being unable to climb and unable to play

potent echo
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Means totally nothing KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
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Imagine it's your first h40 and there are 2 captains right at the very start, trauma for years

plucky flax
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If you're good enough you can self host and get to 40.

mint matrix
potent echo
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Climbing from level 20 Sitgryn

mint matrix
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if wipe, not much time spent

quartz barn
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Skill gap between 30 - 35 is big enough as is

plucky flax
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Yeah twins right at the start is actually the easiest.

quartz barn
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Let alone 40

mint matrix
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if killing twins, easy rest of mission

marble crater
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Not easiest if it's your first h40 staregryn

potent echo
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Actually do twins not get their shield back or smth

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Noticed that sometimes

plucky flax
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Twins regen their shield too.

mint matrix
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they dont have hp gate

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on the shield

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its just timer

plucky flax
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Ye it's based on timer.

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So if team is good they can destroy shield and kill a twin right away.

mint matrix
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break one shield (usually rinda) then focus her down fast

potent echo
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Ah, giga bonked one of them (on havoc 25) and they didn't even get shield back

mint matrix
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thammer zealot or branx ogryn mulches them

plucky flax
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The normal captains are the one always getting shield back after certain hp loss.

potent echo
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There was once I got captain and twins at the same time

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Totally not confusing

upper sun
plucky flax
upper sun
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they need to increase the block limit smh

plucky flax
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Ogryn only died because the psyker die. It's the only explanation.

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They are like a pair.

potent echo
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Based non arbites chat shield combo pogryn

upper sun
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i like arby maul more

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its very comfy

mint matrix
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have u seen the arby maul adm vs carapace

potent echo
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True

mint matrix
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its nuts

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weapon has no weaknesses pepecri

potent echo
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The only complain I have is arby maul is just short enough you can't hit the head after you do push F

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On crushers I mean

plucky flax
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I outdamaged syllo with shield when he was on purga + shriek. (I am veri pro)

potent echo
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Or most ogryns

upper sun
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i just pick loud speaker and never use it

jovial juniper
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The Boombox

plucky flax
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Tru

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According to my scoreboard I did more but I was using damage inflation cheat.

upper sun
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I have one game with the shield maul

potent echo
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Known cheater smh

upper sun
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it feels a bit harder to use

plucky flax
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Yeah more combo involved.

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It's quite intricate.

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The mk9 is easier. Spam heavy for single target.

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And uhh.. something for horde.

mint matrix
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mk6 alternating l1 h2 for st?

buoyant maple
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What’s mk9

upper sun
plucky flax
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Mk9 or mk11 I dunno.

upper sun
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i think

plucky flax
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The arby shield.

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There's mk6 with light heavy light light for single target.

buoyant maple
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VI is 6
XI is 11

buoyant maple
upper sun
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agent knows the marks but not their numbers

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i know the numbers but not the marks

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🚬

summer prairie
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it was a hab dreyko with nothing spawning

gray juniper
upper sun
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armor damage modifier

potent echo
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It's like .9 or smth

summer prairie
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and rampaging

plucky flax
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Its okay no flame

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Only flame karien

summer prairie
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Karien was also stealing purg damage only

deft stump
summer prairie
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maybe

gray juniper
azure quarry
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Does it matter with greatsword I use and does it have to have warp resist dump?

deft stump
jovial juniper
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Doesn't matter the mark
Both are good

azure quarry
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Okay. Which greatsword do I use? Guide is outdated in that

buoyant maple
summer prairie
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opportunist buffs remote detonation cara damage a lot

deft stump
azure quarry
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Well atm I'm using assail and voidstrike so which one would be nice? Build I found is using the mk6

jovial juniper
gray juniper
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My ngl both marks on great sword are great. I do prefer the mark 6 for overheads, the reliability of those overheads and stab acces, and the aesthetics of those swings

buoyant maple
azure quarry
jovial juniper
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C'mon and slam

plucky flax
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Mk6 stab is goated

gray juniper
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The what?

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Shit feels so good to put in someone’s face

azure quarry
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So what does the guide mean by Assail Weave?

gray juniper
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Probably to find a place to throw it in between other attacks

jovial juniper
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You're weaving assail during melee moments

azure quarry
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That feels like advanced knowledge

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And annoying

marble crater
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You can also melee melee and throw or melee and throw throw

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It's just for extra damage and keeping peril higher

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You can also just not do it at all

azure quarry
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Just feels like it would be cumbersome. I take it that it's more fluid than I am expecting?

gray juniper
marble crater
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It's not that cumbersome really

mint matrix
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^

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very useful to maintain high peril and get some free damage

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too bad it locks you out of psykinetics sadge

azure quarry
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So when peril gets to high I just chill with assail?

mint matrix
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well yeah u dont want to overload

marble crater
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Chill as in not use it? Yea

potent echo
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i take a peek at my current assail and count how many i can throw before maxing out

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been blowing myself up too much after switching to shield

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too much crutching on other Fs

tulip kettle
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i mean this is always a problem for me on psyker

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play a few games with assail, die when i pull out bb expecting it to be assail

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play a few games with shriek, blow myself up in my bubble next game

azure quarry
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Lol

mint matrix
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every time I play trauma staff after a while of not playing it I blow myself up at the start of a mission

tulip kettle
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i think trauma/EK are the worst(best) for self detonation for sure

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too many times in havoc 40 is oh, 85 peril, that should be fine, right?

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(it was not fine)

gray juniper
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It’s so embarrassing tho. “I swear I’m not always amateur like this guys” I feel like they’re judging me as a liability when I headpip

tulip kettle
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this usually never happens

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youre just so hot

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and its been a while...

azure quarry
gray juniper
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😭 😭 😭

vast yew
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I mean you could just take the Viagra talent

tulip kettle
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he didnt realise he was supposed to just run past everything into the corner to your left

plucky flax
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I almost always go there on the left ye oddly enough

cosmic sigil
tulip kettle
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is a very good motto to have i feel

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if your arby teammate is a sandwich, definitely bring them the enemies

vast yew
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If the tank won't pull like a good tank, bring the enemies to the tank. Good ole FF14 duty finder logic

late rune
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For talents like malefic momentum that give damage to "warp attacks" does this also affect soulblaze DoT or only "direct" warp damage? And if so, is the soulblaze damage based on whether you had that buff active at the time the stacks were applied or does it retroactively buff active stacks upon gaining the buff? And if not, is each stack considered separately all will applying even a single stack of the "buffed" soulblaze override the existing stats to now have the buff as well?

quartz barn
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Soulblaze is a flat amount based on the stacks the target has

deft stump
quartz barn
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And for weapons like purg the damage is split between direct hits (effected by the damage stat, qualified as a warp attack) and soulblaze (amount of stacks applied depends on the burn stat, its a dot that cant get buffed)

summer prairie
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no, the dots get buffed by various things as well

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based on your current buffs

tulip kettle
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indeed

quartz barn
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Which perks buff dots?

tulip kettle
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stacking uncanny makes a huge difference to soulblaze DoT ticks

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from 46 to over 400 per tick on crushers

summer prairie
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all vs breed perks, damage/power blessings that don't only buff certain type of damage (e.g. melee)

quartz barn
tulip kettle
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oh okay my bad 🙄

summer prairie
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if you have blaze away on your purg and shoot, it buffs all the sb dots even if you aren't hitting anything

upper sun
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still cant believe they put blaze away on it KEKW_ogryn

summer prairie
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malefic should buff them too

upper sun
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1 min until 1-2 dies

cosmic sigil
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probably ogryn or psyker mains

upper sun
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ok

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im still running it idc

late rune
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wait does that actually work? Getting stacks of uncanny strike with a melee weapon that swapping to staff with full armor pen??

gray juniper
upper sun
deft stump
upper sun
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same applies for a lot of other buffs as well as log as they dont say "melee damage"

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executioner also does the same

burnt gazelle
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you can test this in the psyk to see that it works

upper sun
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but executioner gives power instead of rending

late rune
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so would either executor or slaughterer also buff it cos they just give "strength" doesnt specify melee?

spice oar
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Has our athanteium psyker steam guide or whatever it’s called been updated btw?

burnt gazelle
barren cloud
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ive got a question, concerning smite psyker, if anyone could help me

plucky flax
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The +1 chain on smite

deft stump
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@summer prairie Wanna ask, is it possible to get hitbox sizes for things? Just wondering. Or should I ask like Path instead?

dull scroll
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drop KD

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if you are smitting

marble crater
plucky flax
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Tru

late rune
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The irony of Venting Shriek is that its the sound your team mates make when you dont bring Telekine Shield 😦

summer prairie
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v2 had a hitbox debugger, not sure if darktide has something like that

deft stump
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Also curious about how bs are trapper net sizes anyway.

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They feel bigger than they look.

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Even at 5 ping.

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I hate trappers.

late rune
# deft stump I hate trappers.

Last night I got revived by team mate only to get netted by a trapper literally before I was even allowed to move my character again, team mate freed me instantly, same thing happened again. Nothing to do but laugh XD

hearty wolf
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You got farmed 😭

late rune
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Like Norwegian salmon

deft stump
late rune
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can only only assume both nets were actually targetting the team mate helpinging cos pretty sure they cant fire the net you normally while your still mid rescue animation

late rune
late rune
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Nah was H30

deft stump
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This is why 4 'nades are out.

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I do not care, please die already.

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Or bleed out.

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Then trying to unnet as many ppl.

late rune
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shredder nades almost feel like a liability these days lol, oh yay ive staggered everything.. oh yay everything now has final toll..

loud girder
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final toll sucks

deft stump
late rune
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me in the corner with my voidblast staff staring down half a dozen glowing red ragers like the chick in bathroom in the Shining

loud girder
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why is this gif 2 fps

deft stump
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Since I got used to perma bsing crushers bonking their heds.

late rune
deft stump
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Cos 300 ping is bad with overheads.

loud girder
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real

plucky flax
late rune
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went from high everything to low everything and still have lower FPS than before the update 😦

ripe obsidian
deft stump
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I really like inferno btw.

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Absolute horrors for fps.

late rune
deft stump
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You see nothing but 50% fps drop.

last shore
plucky flax
last shore
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I remember playing with chaos first time and he crashed like 8 times in 10 minutes. Feelsbadman Sitgryn

deft stump
plucky flax
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Btw I can play now if you're free.

last shore
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I’m at work

plucky flax
last shore
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Prolly not gonna play havocs until Friday

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Waiting for my friend to get his Internet back so we can grind together

hearty wolf
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@ripe obsidian i see ur green

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that means online

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that means available

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that means WINNING

deft stump
hearty wolf
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Why would I not be

ripe obsidian
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I is working

deft stump
hearty wolf
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I just want to kill things

ripe obsidian
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The chance to see me throw in fantastic ways drives many to fanaticism

hearty wolf
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nah that's it

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delivery driver is getting stabbed

ripe obsidian
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Oh, so you live in London?

hearty wolf
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UK, it's general enough

gray juniper
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That deliveroo rap is unintentionally hilarious

ripe obsidian
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London being knifey is one of the stereotypes I know about the area.

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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But honestly, knifey is better than shooty, and the US has shooty during peacetime on lockdown.

deft stump
deft stump
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You can try to outrun CQC, but GL with guns.

hearty wolf
deft stump
hearty wolf
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You'd have to catch me

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CQC remember

ripe obsidian
deft stump
hearty wolf
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The Red Devil Karien

deft stump
tulip kettle
ripe obsidian
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People might be the problem, but a problem person with a knife can do much less damage than a problem person with a gun.

tulip kettle
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so generally i would just never be in a situation where people are involved

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yes and most people would do a lot more damage with a car than a gun. Just tools and people. Avoid the people avoid the problems

tulip kettle
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i mean in my country we call it agorophobic but yeah similar vibes

gray juniper
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Ngl I enjoy the loner life

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People are indeed complicated

tulip kettle
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i actively chose it about 6 years ago and life has been pretty simple and low stress since

ripe obsidian
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Eh, at least there is some amount of control over where cars can go. I don't need to worry nearly as much about a car driving through the window of my office as I do a disgruntled employee bringing a pistol in their backpack.

tulip kettle
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couldnt do with drama that comes with groups and people anymore really

ripe obsidian
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I'm already aggressively introverted in real life. People are unpleasant.

deft stump
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It got loose and nyoom, boom.

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Isekai story begins.

plucky flax
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Pugs not being kind to me on this map.

deft stump
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Wait, you won't know cos I uhhh, started an isekai D&D campaign with it.

tulip kettle
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what map and mods do you have?

wraith sphinx
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Whoever taught them to use pcs and consoles huh

plucky flax
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Magistrate assassin with red purple Xd

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I have to solo clutch every round.

tulip kettle
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OOOOF

plucky flax
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And die.

tulip kettle
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one of the hardest ones imo

plucky flax
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Too many shooters and people just die to any red elite shooters.

tulip kettle
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the bit with the double wide platform with the med on the lower section

wraith sphinx
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Yeah fuck red purple

ripe obsidian
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Any map with big, open places

tulip kettle
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is just ruthless

ripe obsidian
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Just get peppered by unlimited gunners

tulip kettle
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even the big curved tunnel near the start is ruthless

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its because someone

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isnt doing

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what the matrix is telling them to do

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i feel like i had an epiphany with this game and now its just like, seeing the green numbers come down

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game is always telling each player what to do and when they dont do it stuff goes bad

deft stump
ripe obsidian
marble crater
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It's all AgentChaos staregryn

late rune
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If you hold a full right click on inferno staff into a big blob, what is the rough proportion of damage from the direct hits vs the DoT ticking? Assuming max stacks have aready been applied ofc. Like is the direct damage a trivial amount and not worth doing if everythings already at max stacks? Looking for a rough percentage if anyone knows

ripe obsidian
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Someone tested it at one point, and it's a sort of bell curve. 40ish % charge is high damage and 100% is high, and it dips between them.

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Reason is, 40% keeps blaze away alive.

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Any higher and you have to restack it, losing damage

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I think 45%, actually. Something around there

static sonnet
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I like to lead with a full charge then do 40% charges over and over to keep it up. Works well

late rune
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Its because blaze away only gives 20% strength whereas if you just apply the dots then switch to melee to get slaughterer and uncanny, or slaughterer and superiority thats 40% strength plus full rending on the dots especially for crushers, or 76.5% strength on the DoTs

plucky flax
ripe obsidian
plucky flax
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I just dc when horde + shooters + bonbon spawn.

late rune
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so im wondering if with big blobs its worth to keep flaming or to just apply dots then melee, it depends entirely on how much the direct fire damage is actually doing

plucky flax
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Came back and it's joeover.

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This game is cursed.

ripe obsidian
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Unless you're built to be meleeker, or you're fighting a single target, I cannot imagine you doing more damage in melee than staying on Inferno

hearty wolf
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There's also the thing of like

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Things die

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More things take their place

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You won't have max stacks on them

plucky flax
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Maybe I have to play psyker to win this map.

plucky flax
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Ye dawg and forceful with shield.

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Tank meme. Xd

last shore
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I’ve been doing tact axe lone wolf forceful

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Gonna try shield later prolly

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
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H40 ready lobby.

summer prairie
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earlier we had two blockades in a row, purple+red, didn't go too well

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or more like simultaneously

plucky flax
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I'll try psyker on this map.

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This is just too hard as arby I can survive but team die every encounter.

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Gawd dawmn this man takes a lot of top nodes.

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Block king.

ripe obsidian
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Well, everyone knows this is the best build:

plucky flax
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Tru

late rune
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Is the toughness reduction from Havoc applied to your flat amount (meaning toughness percentage based bonuses on curios are worth less) or applied to your total after curious?

marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
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Maybe you two just need to get together to carry two random goofs.

thorn cedar
strong gulch
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Hi

late rune
thorn cedar
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It's what I do.

ripe obsidian
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Hi

ripe obsidian
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I do 2x toughness, 1x health, and 3x gunner resist/toughness/cdr, depending on the build.

verbal thistle
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psyker can only scale toughness damage reduction

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plus toughness is what stops chip damage

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even in havoc

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hp would only help tank more chip damage while having more toughness stops a bunch of the chip from happening in the 1st place

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i use 2 tough 1 hp

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@late rune

marble crater
#

Hi

rotund dagger
strong gulch
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If floor is goop, I'd say go HP + corruption resist. Outside of that Guarded

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Curios are largely personal pref and playstyle

sturdy dagger
#

i saw a build the other day that had the dump stat on inferno staff as dmg claiming the direct dmg does close 2 nothing and the burn %/dmg is all the matters? thoughts? or just go warp resist as usual?

sturdy dagger
#

i could see the logic at face value CAUGHT

rotund dagger
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psyker gets bonuses for high peril so warp management dump gets more

sturdy dagger
marble crater
verbal thistle
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you could argue before blaze away was added on the staff that damage could be a dump

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but warp res is just so good to dump

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even before blazeaway

marble crater
#

If people could run 0 warp res on inferno they would

sturdy dagger
#

i assumed it was warp res as usual but i had 2 double check the weird dmg dump incase i was missing crazy tech

strong gulch
#

Damage dump was a contentious dump before blazeaway, but now that we have blazeaway direct damage is significant on inferno.

PLUS part of the strength of left side builds is shriek spam and high WR on a low peril gen staff hurts that.

hollow magnet
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is assail viable at all?

verbal thistle
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yes

strong gulch
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yes

hollow magnet
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and does cleave affect it

verbal thistle
#

highly so

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yes

strong gulch
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yes

hollow magnet
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ok thanks

verbal thistle
#

assail can get to cleave 12(or 15) targets with all the buffs

hollow magnet
#

does reload speed affect it

tulip kettle
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though generally you wont lean into it so much

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no

verbal thistle
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no it does not

hollow magnet
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ok thanks

hollow magnet
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just wanting to try it out

unborn chasm
#

whats better for havoc? BB or assail? heard that smite isnt really good enough

tulip kettle
#

assail with no upgrades and warp splitting

verbal thistle
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go for it, its my fav blitz

hollow magnet
tulip kettle
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is enough to kill 4 poxwalkers in high havoc at mid peril

hollow magnet
#

i should use disrupt destiny right

tulip kettle
#

generally yes

tulip kettle
#

generally, assail is used as an additional horde clear / dps tool / peril maintenance tool

verbal thistle
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and stagger

tulip kettle
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on otherwise high damage precision based builds

verbal thistle
#

funnily enough

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enough stagger to stop ragers and reapers

tulip kettle
#

indeed

verbal thistle
#

so dumb

hollow magnet
#

anyone have a pic of a good assail build actually

tulip kettle
#

though generally i run assail with FGS

hollow magnet
#

probably easier than asking a million questions lol

tulip kettle
#

and that just dumps ragers on their ass anyway

verbal thistle
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one sec

plucky flax
#

Even psyker is not enough. Lasted 23 mins though. nooooo

hollow magnet
#

so how do i boost the stagger on assail

verbal thistle
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you dont

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just throw more

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this with EP

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2 points extra

plucky flax
verbal thistle
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if you dont use assail often you can take off the regen speed of them

hollow magnet
#

scriers gaze??

verbal thistle
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my fav

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assail can crit

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guess what gaze gives you.....

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crit chance

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20%

hollow magnet
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i was thinking the shield would be best cos its a ranged skill

verbal thistle
#

this on gaze too

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you have 10 seconds at 100% peril buffs with assail

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max damage, max cleave

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you can shift the points to shield

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no talent tree difference

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this with DD

hollow magnet
#

neat ill try both thanks

verbal thistle
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EP is for when you use assail alot

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DD will help your melee/ranged/and assail

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for when you dont use assail that much

hollow magnet
verbal thistle
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the 25 stacks is harder to manage and stacks get removed fast

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up to you

hollow magnet
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surely the higher stacks is better than extra duration

tulip kettle
#

i was about to say about this

hollow magnet
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cos at higher stacks itll still last longer

tulip kettle
#

yes higher stacks is better than duration if you are good

verbal thistle
#

gotta think about the down time too

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inbetween hordes you will have to rebuild the 25 stacks

tulip kettle
#

when learning to use the build id rec duration instead

verbal thistle
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everytime

tulip kettle
#

same with regenerating assails

hollow magnet
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btw is it worth like ADSing with assail

tulip kettle
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for snipers

verbal thistle
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only for snipers sometimes

tulip kettle
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otherwise not really

hollow magnet
#

idk what it does beyond making it cost way more warp

verbal thistle
#

more targeted

deft stump
hollow magnet
#

ah ok so not more damage

tulip kettle
#

it does more cleave and flies in a straight line

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but yeah u dont use it too much

ripe obsidian
#

• Targeting: LMB projectile tries to follow crosshair placement to the closest enemy, success rate decreases with distance; RMB can target enemies within 50m for a guaranteed hit; projectiles try to go for weakspots but hit other hitzones if no direct access
• Projectile lifetime: 2.5s (LMB), 3s (RMB)
• Peril cost: 10% (LMB); 25% (RMB); is affected by peril cost reduction buffs from respective talents, Combat Stimm, and the 'Enhanced Blitz' difficulty mutator
• Throwing rate can be increased by Celerity Stimm
• Ammo: costs 1 ammo; recharges 1 projectile every 3 seconds
• Suppression radius (on hit): 5m
• Damage: first target base damage 225 (LMB), 380 (RMB); same armor damage modifiers for LMB and RMB,

strong gulch
#

You can do like 2 - 4 regular assails then an aimed to take out most softer elites and specials.

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The regular assail is used most

tulip kettle
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so it does do more dmg not just more cleave

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interesting

strong gulch
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You can use RMB to guide active shards

unborn chasm
#

what would be an optimal havoc build for psyker currently?

hollow magnet
#

oh really

tulip kettle
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there is kind of 1 accepted meta build

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with a few minor talent node changes for personal taste

strong gulch
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instead of just trusting them to go where you are generally looking

tulip kettle
#

but you can run anything with the right team

hollow magnet
#

any thoughts on best staffs and melees etc

verbal thistle
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gun staff

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shredder auto is what I use

tulip kettle
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melee best FGS MK 6 hands down

unborn chasm
tulip kettle
#

and staffs, all are good except voidstrike

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inferno bubble

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with BB for KF

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and yes warp charges but you dont put many points into them, just the base dmg buff usually

vestal trench
#

i found way more use from rmb assail when i was using bubble gunker lmao

strong gulch
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All of the staves are good but VS is less good and suffers the most.

unborn chasm
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oh kinetic flayer actually worth it? was wondering cause of the 15 sec cooldown

vestal trench
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not having gaze to do all the peril management for me was a learning curve

strong gulch
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Both mks of the FGS are good. Pick that moveset you like the most.

unborn chasm
#

i wanna start using inferno staff with bubble and syphon, but idk what skills to go for inbetween

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heard that EE with nexus and one crit perk should be great

strong gulch
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crit chance on inferno is less needed in non aurics but is fine

tulip kettle
#

generally it will look something like this

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with minor variations for personal preference

strong gulch
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I would not drop IFR

frail escarp
#

ty, i guess i thought it worked a bit like the shock maul yeah 😄

unborn chasm
hollow magnet
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so how does peril overloading actually work

tulip kettle
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i find i always have 4 charges in high havoc

vestal trench
#

hit 100 you explode and go down

hollow magnet
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is it just if im already at 100% and use an ability

vestal trench
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or rather, if you hit 100 then use more warp?

hollow magnet
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cos sometimes i hit 100 and im fine

tulip kettle
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you can start an action before 97% peril and not explode

wraith sphinx
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if you do a warp attack or ability while at 100% you'll explode

tulip kettle
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so, for example, if you lmb onto an enemy with BB at 96% peril you wont go boom even though it hits 100

wraith sphinx
#

unless you have venting shriek or scrier's gaze ready

tulip kettle
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to be clear

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charging a staff

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and casting it

plucky flax
tulip kettle
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are seperate actions both with peril costs

vestal trench
#

me running fgs mk8 because i liked the horizontal swipes only to explode from trying to do PA into stab angrycry

tulip kettle
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so you can charge inferno staff to 95% peril, then start casting it

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the cast will take you to 100 then continue the rest of the stream that you charged without exploding you

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if you touch ANYTHING else that generates peril you will explode

deft stump
vestal trench
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yall rly edge with ur psykers huh

plucky flax
vestal trench
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me venting the moment i go past 90 KEKW_ogryn

tulip kettle
#

more damajj

unborn chasm
deft stump
late rune
tulip kettle
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indeed

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but i always say 97%

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cos the game is dodgy sometimes

deft stump
tulip kettle
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but also remember your muscle memory will kill you a lot if you edge like this

late rune
unborn chasm
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so inferno staff dump stat is WR?

tulip kettle
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the dump stat is always warp res

hollow magnet
tulip kettle
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is a pretty good rule to go by

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if the weapon has warp res

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its likely to be the dump

late rune
#

but gotta be quick

hollow magnet
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nice thanks

tulip kettle
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battle med can also save you

unborn chasm
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heard some people say quell speed thats why i was wondering

tulip kettle
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its unlikely but it can happen

unborn chasm
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but it didnt makke sense to me

tulip kettle
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quell speed is okay to dump if you have a specific playstyle that supports it

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most wouldnt recommend it

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i personally run a 70-70 quell speed warp res and get along just fine with it

hollow magnet
#

so how do I use assail while in scriers gaze?

tulip kettle
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ultimately its about peril management not direct damage

tulip kettle
hollow magnet
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cos using assail builds peril but dont i want to minimise peril in it

tulip kettle
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use your other stuff for the duration of scriers

late rune
tulip kettle
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then when it ends spam assails

hollow magnet
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ah ok thanks

tulip kettle
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as you have warp unbound you wont explode

tulip kettle
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and as you are at 100 peril the assails do giga damage and cleave

unborn chasm
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thx

vestal trench
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should assail be spammed or should there be a rhythm to the lmbs so that two assail shards dont try going after the same target?

tulip kettle
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i am no expert, but my experience of assail is

vestal trench
#

heard the latter here before so im double checking

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especially with the whole assasil following mouse movement thing

tulip kettle
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you generally just throw one at a time when meleeing

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to keep peril up and give a little extra damage to your attacking

hollow magnet
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is the train mission just like the best one

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it seems so quick

tulip kettle
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but its also okay to spam them out

late rune
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It honestly sucks that telekine shield is so damn good and almost a must have for high havocs it feels cos scriers gaze is just a completely different beast for psyker, the crit chance etc aside the ability to just free cast constantly at 100% peril without exploding is insane

tulip kettle
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though when spamming them, i tend to throw a couple then wait a second then a couple more

unborn chasm
#

so havoc curious are rather health i assume?

tulip kettle
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no

ripe obsidian
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Toughness > health

unborn chasm
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ok damn reddit and discord def have crazy different opinions haha

vestal trench
#

yeah im not fast enough on my fingers to weave in an assail in melee without getting hit

unborn chasm
tulip kettle
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on psyker in high havoc, if you are taking damage onto hp you are in trouble

unborn chasm
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im running 2 toughness and 1 stamina

tulip kettle
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and yes reddit is a cesspool of people who played the game 60 hours and think they know about it

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i have played over 2k hours in DT alone and i dont know SHIT

ripe obsidian
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Reddit and Gameslantern builds have some impressively bad takes

unborn chasm
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i played 400h and just wanna start learning more about the min max and meta

late rune
# unborn chasm so havoc curious are rather health i assume?

think the argument is that curious are a eprcentage amount and base toughness is reduced in havoc so you get less from them, thats why you might think hp is better. But end of the day it doesnt matter what your HP is you will die fast if you take damage, not taking damage is always better than being able to take more damage imo

tulip kettle
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indeed this

unborn chasm
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so full toughness or is stamina alright

tulip kettle
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and the damage you take from a randm poxwalker hitting you in the side

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generally dont run stam on psyker

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but it is FINE to

unborn chasm
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i think i been using stamina cause of deflector and dodging

unborn chasm
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have not been lucky with getting any 17% toughness curios aswell

late rune
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I think run one stam curio if you arent taking kinetic deflection or whatever the block talent is called

ripe obsidian
#

Kinetic Deflection replaces the need for stamina for deflector, unless you decide to stand still and eat shots

tulip kettle
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you dont need stam because we have KD, but it does also work well if you dont have it

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hey look at that lol

tulip kettle
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and ultimately

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KD is you exchanging blocking for peril

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you WANT peril

unborn chasm
tulip kettle
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so its pretty rare not to take KD

unborn chasm
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yeah i love it

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easy to get out of sticky situations

late rune
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also depends on what weapon you have cos stuff like the blaze force sword has a built in 25% i think? block cost reduction thats hidden same as the vet power sword

unborn chasm
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and the dodges are super quick

tulip kettle
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and on psyker you have a positive stam regen rate when doing normal game actions like sprint sliding so you dont need extra stam bar or stam regen

unborn chasm
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im using deimos

tulip kettle
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deflector perk is a lot more controversial

late rune
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yeah the deimos has extra block reduction built in

tulip kettle
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definitely a preference thing but if running deflector deimos is very good for it

unborn chasm
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i usually only use melee in havoc to deflect and dodge out of a bad spot

late rune
#

I feel like the deflection blessing is 100% a must in Havoc cos of barrage etc exceptif your running telekine shield with max CDR talents and curio perks etc can maybe get away with it then

unborn chasm
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but i also been running smite for a while and wanna try something more meta

tulip kettle
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i mean everyone is running bubble in havoc

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are you insane?

late rune
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no im sad

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cos i wanna run scriers gaze 😦

tulip kettle
#

and yeah sure if not running bubble then yes, take deflector

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but like

unborn chasm
#

whats usually the go to perks on the curios then? or just personal preference?

tulip kettle
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you will be swiss cheese

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i mean its pretty definitive what they should be

late rune
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but a piece of swiss cheese thats having fun! 😛

tulip kettle
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but people like to argue about it

warped perch
#

Anyone got a good melee psyker force greatsword build for havoc

frail escarp
#

i really wish i could run shriek in havoc 😦

tulip kettle
#

generally, its toughness, hp and cooldown reduction

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and yes, you can run anything in havoc with the right team / good enough

unborn chasm
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i see

tulip kettle
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but reality is inferno bubble is meta for a reason

unborn chasm
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yeah went with toughness and cdr, and gunner res

late rune
#

What about poxburster resistance on curious? recently Ive tested having one or two and it does seem to be the difference between getting one shot or surviving on the squishy ass psyker

unborn chasm
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but ig if you play it right you dont need gunner res

tulip kettle
#

gunner res is one that people like to argue about

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and again this is like

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such a bad take

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dont get hit by the poxburster

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i know its really lame to say stuff like that

hollow magnet
#

is it a good idea to just spam right click assail, quell to like 95% then fire another right click assail etc

frail escarp
unborn chasm
#

snipers imo for example useless because you should easily be able to dodge em

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same with mutants

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most the time

tulip kettle
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no you never spam right click assails

late rune
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well duh but you cant always avoid it, someone some soundless prick leaps explodes behind bulwarks so you couldnt even see it coming 😦

tulip kettle
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and yes, all special res curios are dumb for that reason

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that happnes because you did something wrong

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the game told you to go backwards and you tried not to

late rune
#

every death is because you did something wrong 😛

tulip kettle
#

explicitly yes

ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
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the game is always telling you what to do

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do what it says or take damage

marble crater
frail escarp
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it's just something i plop down and forget

tulip kettle
#

but yes, gunner res is a more reasonable choice than any other "type resistance" curio perk

frail escarp
#

scrier is the most interesting, i wish most abilities did something cool and synergistic like that

tulip kettle
#

i STILL think its bad, i have explained the math on why

late rune
#

but that doesnt change the fact that the game aint exactly known for being perfect with sound queues. Soundless trappers and bursters are certainly a thing, and bursters can explode whilst behind other enemies still hitting you when you couldnt even see them

tulip kettle
#

they are soundless intentionally

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because you shouldnt be there

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anyway im a crazy person

unborn chasm
#

deimos with deflector is my go to for now, whats best for the other blessing? been running uncanny strike

tulip kettle
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yes its uncanny

unborn chasm
#

carapace and maniacs

tulip kettle
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you need uncanny strike relly to maximise inferno staff

unborn chasm
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for perks

tulip kettle
#

and yes those are what most people take, maniac gives you 1 shot on mutants

tulip kettle
#

yes

late rune
#

is that even with a non crit?

tulip kettle
#

then you burn everything to 15 stacks with inferno

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then get deimos out

unborn chasm
#

guess im gonna spend all my money on melsk to hopefulkly get 17% toughness curios haha

tulip kettle
#

and stack uncanny

marble crater
tulip kettle
#

uncanny affects the burning and everything falls over dead

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yes non crit

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with headshot

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in havoc 40 you need peril

late rune
#

I havent actually used the deimos before properly but trying it tonight, outside of hordes is it just L1,H2 rinse repeat I think it?

tulip kettle
#

against armour yes

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but honestly deimos is just DS4 with a different skin

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now MK6 FGS...

late rune
#

except it isnt the duelling sword, so it isnt cringe 😛

frail escarp
#

what's the main difference between deimos/obscurus?

strong gulch
#

@ripe obsidian Next havocs I'll bubble purg.

tulip kettle
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the fact one is useable in its niche and the other is dogwater

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i kid

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move sets

unborn chasm
#

wasnt there a thumb rule that a 17% toughness curio always has a certain power level?

tulip kettle
#

i hate obscuras because its move set is poopoo

unborn chasm
#

so i dont gotta go thru all 50 of them haha

tulip kettle
#

yes

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it will be 400 or higher

unborn chasm
#

like 410 or something

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ah

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thx

tulip kettle
#

for stamina it needs to be 410

late rune
#

Illisi is great anti horde, similar playstyle to powersword, deimos is super high single target not so great anti horde, obscurus is.. obscure for a reason

tulip kettle
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400 will show 3 stamina but its lying and is only 2

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illisi used to be my love

frail escarp
tulip kettle
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but then they added the FGS and theres no real reason to use it anymore

frail escarp
#

ill try deimos out i guess

tulip kettle
#

deimos is good at its niche

strong gulch
#

Obscurus is not bad. After it was buffed it's a strong all rounder

late rune
#

Btw with the Deimos is there ever a reason to actually use the special attack? I did some brief testing and it seemed like it didnt rly do much more damage in total that just a basic H2 despite having a very lengthy and dangerous lock in animation

tulip kettle
#

you bring it to 1 shot muties and knock crushers on their butt

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no dont use it

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except in l;ifts to build peril

plucky flax
#

Lost every game today it's time to call it.

tulip kettle
#

awww mayne

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i stole your luck yesterday

plucky flax
#

Purple and red on a sus map is just too much for pugs.

glacial vapor
plucky flax
#

100 dreg ragers whatthefuck_heresy

tulip kettle
#

yes thats the point

tulip kettle
#

red pink is the uncoordinated krytonite

strong gulch
#

I'm gonna cry and go do something else if I see red, purple, and gas again.

tulip kettle
#

you guys say purple

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you mean garden right?

plucky flax
#

People either die too fast or just do no damage.

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Ye it's purple.

strong gulch
tulip kettle
#

okay

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to me they look

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very pink

strong gulch
#

Purple itself isn't the worst

unborn chasm
#

spent 20k melk coins and not one 17% toughness curio haha

marble crater
tulip kettle
#

its fine if you have good aoe dmg on team

plucky flax
#

Ye but with red it's just too much

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Red ragers/bulwarks/crushers.

strong gulch
plucky flax
#

But I can't control my team.

marble crater
#

Karien didn't carry the rest? Sitgryn

tulip kettle
#

and i agree ive been saying this red pink(purple) is just too broken for most things

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you MUST bring huge aoe clear because when theres 100 ragers you just cant target the purple ones

ripe obsidian
#

Every modifier that isn't red is fine. Red just sucks. Takes away so many tools, just becomes a DPS check. And if your team doesn't want to kill elites, they just walk up to you and murder

#

As AgentChaos said, 100 ragers, all red.

plucky flax
#

Red without purple is fine though.

tulip kettle
#

exactly

ripe obsidian
#

Team is busy fighting a single poxwalker

tulip kettle
#

its the combo together

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and yes thats just low skill players issues

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me, the psyker, getting absolutely hosed by gunners and reapers

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my 3 arbs, fighting the 20 poxwalkers coming through the passage behind us

ripe obsidian
#

That's been every game since Arby released

plucky flax
#

Remove red and ritual.

tulip kettle
#

i think rituals is fine

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i know thats a terrible take

plucky flax
#

Ritual is fine but when it spawns behind door and triggers.

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It sucks ass.

tulip kettle
#

its a "does your team understand the game" check

modest perch
#

just fix the spawns/triggers for it

tulip kettle
#

but yes bugged rituals are problems

ripe obsidian
#

"Hello, yes, I am the psyker with no TDR. Pls get the horde of red ragers off me. Oh, you're explaining the Lex to a poxwalker. Understood."

modest perch
#

like they never bothered testing them at all

unborn chasm
#

is wildfire any good?

plucky flax
#

In excise vault there's always a bugged one just after the lift.

tulip kettle
#

its, okay

plucky flax
#

It's usually downstairs.

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And always a massive horde spawn at the medicae station just after the lift.

modest perch
#

also i beat a sniper gauntlet 40 on psyker the other day can i sit at the cool kids table now ?

tulip kettle
#

i dont think its required with inferno staff but its pretty good if youre trying to get SB effects

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yes i know the one

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i played with 2 vets yersterday who stopped it

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me and ogryn killed the top one they shot the bottom one

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we got twins and a plogryn for our efforts

ripe obsidian
proper osprey
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You gotta have that and a propeller hat

modest perch
tulip kettle
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the one on sycorax is the worst imo

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near the start

modest perch
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propeller hat is truly psykerpilled

tulip kettle
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it doesnt trigger

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then you do the drop down

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and it triggers

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nice design

deft stump
plucky flax
deft stump
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4 red crushers trying to overhead me at 300 ping is fun.

modest perch
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not even close. power matrix is bullshit. 2 in one room and the next room has one at the revive that gets triggered if someone is dead

deft stump
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I can't even bs my way out... Foams.

modest perch
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and refinery has that one at the bottom of the whatever wall of shanty town that gets triggered as soon as you leave the airlock

deft stump
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By that I mean push spam heds.

plucky flax
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Maybe I can only carry this map when I am back home on a good pc.

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Laptop carrying not so good.

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Screen too smol. staregryn

deft stump
plucky flax
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@ripe obsidian I kinda like forceful wit hdog but dunno because EO is bugged atm so it's a bit sus.

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I am yet to complete a map though so I can't say for sure.

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It's tanky but does less damage for sure.

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My dawg with EO does good damage cos I target a lot.

ripe obsidian
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EO does more damage, yes

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Inarguable

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I still do good damage with Forceful and die less

deft stump
plucky flax
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Maybe I try this for more toughness regen trading for less monster damage. (shield build so I take rending node)

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The wall hax from EO is just too OP as well.

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Makes targetting with dog even easier.

thorn cedar
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i had to clutch out an H40 (i didnt) but i spent so long having to run in circles around a mass of purple bulwarks that by the time i even got to the rescue point basically everything on the map was EO'd for me which is just silly

plucky flax
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It's balanced.

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Petition for dd marks to behave the same!!! Smadge

deft stump
thorn cedar
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nah i actually still prefer DD

plucky flax
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No I want to see more blue men.

glacial vapor
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Nothing is OP when Bulwark swarms exist. Everything is justified

thorn cedar
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but DD would mark EVERYTHING

plucky flax
upper sun
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vet bad

stone totem
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Bolt pistol's only purpose for existing is enabling my shredder spam semi-meme build

plucky flax
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Bistol is pretty good specials sniping why don't you shoot it?

stone totem
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To the same extent, veteran's only purpose for existing is to use the bolt pistol to have that build

stone totem
deft stump
stone totem
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It's neat for that too though

deft stump
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Yes, that's one crit, one normal.

stone totem
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FT helps it with breakpoints which is nice

deft stump
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In the hed.

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.-.

plucky flax
stone totem
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It is more painful in havoc than it already is in auric but it's workable

deft stump
plucky flax
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I 1 shot.

deft stump
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Havoc is GL.

stone totem
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Bistol x Shredder grenade fanfic and it's a hyper submissive x dominant kink

plucky flax
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My last game on vet. Didn't take that much ammo compared to the zealot and rumbler ogryn.

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The specials killed tho

deft stump
plucky flax
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You can shoot it too...

proper osprey
warped perch
marble crater
upper sun
plucky flax
marble crater
plucky flax
deft stump
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Or is this a power bottom story?

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DUN DUN DUH.

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"No, you don't get to boom an entire room without me... Right?"

proper osprey
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We done wound her up

deft stump
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"You need me... As much as I need you.... So let's come together and bring excitement for all..." Entire room is now bleeding.

tulip kettle
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16 bulwarks is the game telling you "okay you didnt learn from the BoN, MOVE FORWARD"

wraith sphinx
proper osprey
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@deft stump who made this mess

deft stump
deft stump
proper osprey
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I made the mess?

marble crater
deft stump
ripe obsidian
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Today on Mourningstar builds:

proper osprey
ripe obsidian
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Weapons are FGS/Inferno

proper osprey
ripe obsidian
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The inferno is run 'n' gun + focused channeling

deft stump
proper osprey
tulip kettle
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i mean

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surely theyre trolling

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thats the class they select for party finder to troll the people looking at their build

ripe obsidian
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It was a level 13 havoc

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So I am thinking not

deft stump
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Well, sub 20.

tulip kettle
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well, someone said to me the other day

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you dont know smite if you think it doesnt do damage

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so i built an eldritch abomination of a build to try out smite and played it in havoc 22

deft stump
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It doesn't... Unless you are playing very low havocs or your team sucks so you can farm damage.

tulip kettle
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yeah turns out