psyker-class

[pine shore]

Fire trauma is good in high havoc

Unless stagger resistance

Then it becomes useless

[bitter zodiac]

does purgatus make fire trauma redundant?

[tulip kettle]

its anti synergy yes

[bitter zodiac]

because they both cap warp fire?

[tulip kettle]

if there was a purgatus psykr

i would run the rending trauma or bubble knight

[pine shore]

If you have purg, you take rending trauma

not fire

[bitter zodiac]

and if not, I'm guessing people want you to run purg lol

[tulip kettle]

you just need to

because of the mechanics

ill give example

[bitter zodiac]

right I understand

am listeining

[tulip kettle]

theres a blob of 200 enemies, some crushers, maulers, bulwarks

about 20% of them are pink

[pine shore]

You can run whatever if you can actually perform well with it

[tulip kettle]

its hard to tell which they are

[pine shore]

It's just that, it's very easy to be good with purg

[tulip kettle]

if you dont kill the pink ones

the rest of them heal all the dmg you do to them

so now you set everything on fire a lot

all the pink ones burn to death

everything stops healing

everything else burns to death

in that same situation with another weapon

you just cant reliably target the pink enemies fast enough

now imagine that same situation with 3 bosses thrown in, say twins and a spawn

[bitter zodiac]

right, I can understand that

[tulip kettle]

but the spawn and the pistol twin are also pink

[bitter zodiac]

same principle as vet shredder grenades

or close enough

oh

[tulip kettle]

you lose 🙂

[bitter zodiac]

would you use this same skill tree with the brittleness trauma?

[tulip kettle]

no

[pine shore]

almost

[bitter zodiac]

what would you swap

[pine shore]

in fire reborn obviously

Don't need that

[gray juniper]

So what would you take for blessings on trauma typically? Because I’m asking for lone psyker set ups which is most common for me to see right now

[pine shore]

can also take shriek if you already have bubble

Shriek is insanely good always

[sinful peak]

never ever seen 2 psykers in havoc

[gray juniper]

That’s what I mean

[bitter zodiac]

any addons to vs?

[tulip kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f6079b8-9672-4eff-bf94-8d613a639494/rending-build

[gray juniper]

I joined a pod gas mission and took trauma to coax people out of the gas by clearing a way at the cost of taking a lot of damage in other situations

[sinful peak]

blazing nexus

[tulip kettle]

this is what i would run

if i knew there was another psyker

who was running purgatus

inferno sorry

[vivid scaffold]

What are good/fun weapons on Gunker with focus on ranged? (Besides Recon las)

[gray juniper]

Dang so am I wrong putting flurry and nexus on trauma?

[tulip kettle]

its fine if youre running for EE

but not so good really

[gray juniper]

I am

[bitter zodiac]

have seen the fan fire revolver, infantry autogun

[tulip kettle]

but then

bring EK

[gray juniper]

Wew. No thanks

[tulip kettle]

its just better there

[pine shore]

surge staff

[tulip kettle]

the point of trauma

is the rending and blazing blessings

[sinful peak]

iag the goat

[tulip kettle]

if you dont have either youre not doing so good

and both isnt good because you dont have the crit rate to support blazing

[gray juniper]

So typically if you’re lone psyker you do want blazing on trauma?

[sinful peak]

yes

[tulip kettle]

which is why you see nexus and blazing, or flurry and brittle

if youre lone psyker yes blazing trauma is better

[bitter zodiac]

is blast radius the dump stat or do you want even distro

[tulip kettle]

but in havoc 40

[gray juniper]

Yea the staff wasn’t killing fast enough at all. Too many charges to clear

[tulip kettle]

blazing trauma doesnt wor

[sinful peak]

who says this

[tulip kettle]

me

[gray juniper]

Then again I looked and had lower tier blessings for some reason

[tulip kettle]

the blazing trauma enhoyer

it does work with shriek

but not with bubble

6 stacks is not enough to clear pox

[sinful peak]

I only play blaze trauma in h40

[pine shore]

NO

warp resistance only

[tulip kettle]

and then what happens in final toll, you get killed, or you get your team mates killed

[sinful peak]

final toll is a bitch but I still clear fast enough to not be an issue

[tulip kettle]

or you only ever play with players from psyker chat who of curse never make mistakes

clear fast enough?

[gray juniper]

Is there a trauma build that scales somewhat evenly across difficulties?

[tulip kettle]

youre trolling

[bitter zodiac]

of curse they don't

[wet charm]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9df8cf62-74bb-407a-b6ab-b942ad63597d/the-best-psyker-build-rats-trauma-psyker

:3

[tulip kettle]

i actually posted a build inspired by yours above rat

[bitter zodiac]

this looks just like what I had

[tulip kettle]

though slightly toned down for a beginner

[bitter zodiac]

yeah i stole it off a rando

[wet charm]

squeak (yus thats perfect. rat doesnt mind at all)

[gray juniper]

Yea so what’s more effective? Warp nexus and flurry wasn’t helping me then again my aim is probably off some or it requires full charges each attempt?

[tulip kettle]

as i said

its flurry and rending

or nexus and blazing

[gray juniper]

Oh yea i remember that now lol

[gray juniper]

Ok thank you

[tulip kettle]

but i think both types of trauma take an extremely high skill level to use effectively in high havoc

and often with uncoordinated pubs, especially in final toll, youre going to get your teammates killed

[bitter zodiac]

throwing stuff at their feet, stealing kills? How do you mean

[tulip kettle]

you knock it down

you do enough damage to make it red

it stands back up and is unstunnable

the pink ones heal it

[gray juniper]

Nah I’m just trying to get clean runs it middle level

[tulip kettle]

now theres 16 unstunnable bulwarks

that are healing

have fun

[bitter zodiac]

surely thou art jesting

[tulip kettle]

daresayeth, i jest not

[wet charm]

squeak (Rat thinks the guide will be the most helpful for you then)

[timber parcel]

Oh my god it’s the rat

[wet charm]

squeak (as long as you have a few of the key components in your trauma build which enables the kind of gameplay rat describes, you will be fine)

[timber parcel]

Show me your rat holes

Where can I hide

[gray juniper]

I’m going to give it a shot rat Ty

[gray juniper]

Stand on a chair like any woman

[vestal trench]

final toll the only modifier i gotta look out for to avoid trauma?

[tulip kettle]

generally yes

if its garden

[sinful peak]

ngl no ER is kinda

[wet charm]

squeak (but the main takeaway for you will likely be movement tech, quell cancelling by weapon swapping and just experience and muscle memeory from scurrying)

[timber parcel]

Loved the DH despawn on gloriana

[tulip kettle]

you must focus the pink ones

[timber parcel]

Was so cool

[timber parcel]

What?

[wet charm]

squeak (rat wishes you luck fren! and rat is always happy to answer any questions)

[tulip kettle]

pus is no real problem to you on trauma

[wet charm]

.0.

[tulip kettle]

and rituals is always ez mode

[bitter zodiac]

im going to have to watch your video to understand the movement tech rat

[gray juniper]

It’s a joke about old media creating a cliche where women see a small animal and stand on a chair or table

[bitter zodiac]

i can't get the timings right just reading it

[tulip kettle]

he is very good

i would start slower but thats just me

[timber parcel]

Oh hahahah

[bitter zodiac]

i will be practicing in damnation for a couple of days

[wet charm]

squeak (do note it is from before the havoc overhaul. there are some vods on rat's twitch which might have better quality and better represent what its like to scurry with the build currently)

[tulip kettle]

theres a bit in that video rat

[bitter zodiac]

o7

[tulip kettle]

where you get melted by gunners

it is my exhibit A for gunner res being poopoo

[wet charm]

squeak (thats fine, take your time there is no rush. it took rat many many hours to learn it too) >.<

[bitter zodiac]

what a charming creature

somehow its endearing when it refers to itself in third person

[wet charm]

squeak (very kind fren. rat's mannerisms arnt for everyone but rat appreciates the compliment) ;D

[deft stump]

You mean cute.

[bitter zodiac]

i have yet to formulate a complete opinion

do you typically want an even distribution on the force greatsword?

I have been dumping defence

[deft stump]

You dump warp resist.

[bitter zodiac]

o i c

[celest valve]

Warp resist is a negative stat. You want as little as possible.

[bitter zodiac]

gracias frens

[languid pasture]

Actually scuffed this class has a negative stat

[ripe obsidian]

I might try to build a new Inferno staff for a Shriek build. Get like 40 warp resist or so.

[prime elk]

wdym, it's a good thing lol

[ripe obsidian]

Takes too long to get peril up with 60 and constant shrieking

[prime elk]

and whether you want negative warp res is build-dependant

[languid pasture]

Idk any build that’s good that wants any warp resist

[long wharf]

I do

[languid pasture]

You should be allowed to lower stats from max if you want

[prime elk]

builds without BCOB and vent will not want negative warp res

[long wharf]

the more warp resistance you have, the longer you can use peril generating abilities

the key is to know how much peril you're generating with given attacks

[strong gulch]

Take PotS instead of ER?

[long wharf]

for example - with FGS, having low warp resistance helps get your peril high for warp rider boosted special attacks

you want high warp resistance if you use the surge staff

because peril directly limits your dps by stopping you from using the charged secondary

[languid pasture]

Yeah but that means you don’t wanna max a weapon sometimes

[ripe obsidian]

I forgot that was an option.

[long wharf]

I want to say warp res started at 10 on that FGS

[ripe obsidian]

Nice. My lowest FGS is like 41% WR

[strong gulch]

What is the lowest a stat can be with everything else 80?

[long wharf]

depends on where it starts

I think the stat gain per upgrade is a fixed equation

[ripe obsidian]

I've had things start at 0 and they usually end around 40. The issue is that something that starts at 0 gains more per level than something starting at 10

[strong gulch]

Seems like stats will empower more at different times

Doesn't seem consistent.

[bitter zodiac]

earlier, you said you quell while sliding. did you mean a dodge slide, or are you sprinting into it

[strong gulch]

Dodge slide

Cast and quell while dodge sliding

[bitter zodiac]

oh

[strong gulch]

Channel. Not cast

sry

Lowest dump I've been able to get so far is 18% with 80 everything else.

[ripe obsidian]

That's very silly.

[strong gulch]

Yes.

It's on trauma tho 💀

[bitter zodiac]

you charge it for half a second and start screaming lol

[strong gulch]

yes lmao

Need ER with it.

[ocean grotto]

does anybody know if deflector can block trapper projectiles?

[prime elk]

it does not

[ocean grotto]

lame

[prime elk]

you know what

would be funny if we could force push nets away

and trap the trapper

[languid pasture]

are people in this server better at havoc than randoms

im lowkey losing my mind

[bitter zodiac]

I'm not!

[languid pasture]

ive had a bunch of LFGs that were legit worse than auric players

[timber parcel]

I’m mean

I will kick you if you tell me what to do in my lobby

Or I’ll say nothing and aggro dump you

[weary idol]

well if we can poxhound them now

I guess

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[wise zephyr]

Question, is there an ability that lets psykers heal themselves?

[rare arrow]

Running Purg staff, BB, and bubble shield for havoc. Do you all prefer EP or Warp Siphon?

[strong gulch]

Only toughness regen options. No HP healing.

[ebon nymph]

is it just me or does smite feel like shit in damnation and higher, my fun bubble smite psyker feels like he hitting people with a wet towel with all his things too,,

[last shore]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-space-marine-warhammer-warhammer-40k-stare-gif-15034398051697687266

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-good-gewd-star-wars-episode-3-gif-15386400457909814305

[strong gulch]

If it's a dreg seed and there's a lack of aggression from the team, I personally prefer EP BB. That is not a meta thing a a personal preference thing.

[jovial juniper]

Do you have
Shriek/Gaze and EP?

Oh wait

You don't

[ebon nymph]

bubble

[jovial juniper]

That's why

[ebon nymph]

bubble

[jovial juniper]

Bubble smite is indeed trash

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[ebon nymph]

i like bubble :((

[fresh reef]

Generally, yes

[jovial juniper]

Yeah don't pair with smite

[fresh reef]

And I say that as someone who has never used lfg here

[jovial juniper]

[wise zephyr]

Thats a shame, how powerful are those toughness regen abilities? Like, are they just as powerful as other classes, enough to tank decent amounts of damage, or only topping it off between fights?

[jovial juniper]

Do you at least have Empowered Psyonics?

[ebon nymph]

what was fartshart thinking putting it down the same line of stuffs

[rare arrow]

I've been running EP BB and it's been nice. But There are some draws to WC as well though I don't have a build for it

[ebon nymph]

aye

[rare arrow]

other than the pinned build - shriek

[jovial juniper]

Oh ok

At least that

[fresh reef]

Perfectionism Assail 💖

[ebon nymph]

voidblast staff no longer feels like hollow ourple, greatsword feels like a walking stick, and the smite is doing something its just im getting max peril and then i gotta take a breather before i stun some more

[rare arrow]

shriek

[ebon nymph]

but the bubble is so much fun i feel like a goddamn superhero

[jovial juniper]

If you had shriek/gaze you'd quell peril

[strong gulch]

Warp Siphon and bubble for inferno with EE for havoc

[jovial juniper]

/infinite smite

[ebon nymph]

but i like the bubble

so im gonna stop using smite

sadge

[jovial juniper]

🫡

[strong gulch]

🫡

[fresh reef]

Smite is cool until you realize trauma is literally just better in every way

[rare arrow]

I wish bubble wasn't so good. I love shriek

[fresh reef]

Take the wall pill

[ebon nymph]

you mean surge?

[fresh reef]

No but sure

[rare arrow]

Smite was good once, the problem now is the good staves do what you want smite to do... but better

[ebon nymph]

i thought you were comparing staffs

[jovial juniper]

Surge can't multi targets

[strong gulch]

Bubble is not an absolute must, but it's still meta in havocs.

You don't HAVE to bubble.

[rare arrow]

Yea all my havocs earlier I ran shriekd and it wasn't an issue

but there were definitely some times I was like "oo, if I had bubble here

[ebon nymph]

so im assuming that means surge is shit?

[jovial juniper]

Not really

It's a single target oriented weapon

With inconsistent damage

You either deal 600 or 60000 damage

[prime elk]

surge staff? 🤔

[jovial juniper]

You don't bring it for horde clearing

[strong gulch]

EK

[jovial juniper]

💀

[prime elk]

ah so surge staff 😠

[strong gulch]

ye

[prime elk]

akshually it can hit two targets 🤓 👆

[bitter zodiac]

woah, thats literally twice the potential!

are people aware of this yet?

[ebon nymph]

ok but why is my Voidstrike staff sucking balls then its not hollowing the purple like I was promised on the tin!

[jovial juniper]

Doesn't even hit 300 Dmg on the second target

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[strong gulch]

Hoping the 2nd target gets KF

[jovial juniper]

If it could hit 300 on the 2nd target

It would be so broken

[rare arrow]

remember when surge was bugged and was 1 and 2 shotting crushers

2K + damage

[prime elk]

first target gets the fucking electric chair

second target gets a warm massage

[weary idol]

why do I have condition damage if I'm deliberately not running any soulblaze to avoid stealing damage from psyker teammate

[jovial juniper]

I should try building for second target damage

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

300 is the quota

Against unarmored

[weary idol]

like

[ebon nymph]

how can i identify cracked builds on the website

[weary idol]

where am I getting condition damage from

[strong gulch]

avoid games lantern for builds tbh

[strong gulch]

It's almost a coherent build and the things just jump out at ya

[weary idol]

it's deliberatley built to avoid soulblaze because it is for running second psyker

without stealing soulblaze from the other guy

[strong gulch]

So I'm guessing condition is SB?

IDK. Might have to ask syllo

or someone like that

[weary idol]

Imagine it's some unbelievably scuffed shit that's a bug nobody has noticed

because nobody runs a no soulblaze voidblast staff

and like

one person running blazing spirit makes all voidblast staves apply soulblaze on crit

or something unimaginably stupid like that

Or soulblaze ownership transfers from blazing spirit if any other voidblast staff hits the target

[strong gulch]

@summer prairie Do you know what happened here or caused this? #psyker-class message

build #psyker-class message

[weary idol]

yeah it's for damage over time effect

soulblaze, bleed, etc.

WAIT

I think I know what it might be

It was an inferno mission

The fucking fire barrels

[bitter zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/good-beardstroke-nod-i-see-gif-14497805

[ebon nymph]

Then where should I go?

[weary idol]

Right here baby 😎

[strong gulch]

Trauma is best at barrel gaming too

[ebon nymph]

k then help me fix this since im not gonna do smiteker no more

[weary idol]

play gun psyker

[strong gulch]

There's staff builds in the 2nd pin

[ebon nymph]

no im a wizard purist

[weary idol]

then I cannot help you

[weary idol]

go play with sticks like a normal psyker player

[bitter zodiac]

hahaha

[strong gulch]

It's me. The normal psykers.

Who knows how many I have??

[bitter zodiac]

how do you deal with ammo scarcity?

(in havoc)

[strong gulch]

Ammo is mostly fine even in havoc

assail helps a lot

[weary idol]

annihilate them in melee instead

[strong gulch]

recon is also ammo friendly

[bitter zodiac]

question about your preferences then. why run gunker over vet with recon las?

[weary idol]

better melee damage and mobility

[bitter zodiac]

interesting, not what I expected

[weary idol]

had to dig for a bit but this was my first havoc 40 completion with gun psyker

Power DI was bugged at this point and Assail was showing up as combat ability damage not blitz damage

[bitter zodiac]

are you gruntilda or aurore?

[weary idol]

gruntilda

[bitter zodiac]

so you use your ranged weapon for specialists and such? assail for dreg rifleman and thick hordes?

[weary idol]

yeah

assail is a constant for both melee and ranged enemies

[bitter zodiac]

you just weave it when you can for extra DPS?

[weary idol]

yup

[bitter zodiac]

do you have a build you recommend posted anywhere? I think I might have a decent synergy with this

[weary idol]

I run it like this, but I would recommend taking a bit more durability to ease into the playstyle

[prime elk]

running without warp unbound reeee

[vestal trench]

anyone got a bubble knight build or do i just copy agent's?

[bitter zodiac]

recon las with infernus dum dum and crusher killing force gs?

or deimos?

[ebon nymph]

i didnt see bubble as a used node in like any of them

[bitter zodiac]

and thank you

[weary idol]

I use bolt pistol to make assail and fgs wave apply bleed xd

[bitter zodiac]

oh wow, thats cool

[weary idol]

recon las and infantry autogun are the best if you want your gun to actually do damage

[ebon nymph]

and i never thought brain rupture was all that good since i typically would get it jacked by other people, but watching someone has made me feel like a fool

[bitter zodiac]

puncture and lethal?

[weary idol]

puncture and surgical

no explosions to justify running lethal

[strong gulch]

There's a note to just swap to bubble on the relevant builds. Meaning inferno and VB.

Just swap shriek over to bubble nodes

[ebon nymph]

thank you, i am blind. the blindfold im wearing is preventing me from reading i appreciate you pointing this out for me

[vestal trench]

wait huh i just noticed bubble knight had no BCOB

[weary idol]

well yeah why would it

you run that to make scriers gaze last forever

[vestal trench]

RIGHT

LMFAO I FORGOR

thanks

[fresh reef]

Smelly exploit user

The only ethical bolt pistol bug is using it to buff your peril explosion

[timber parcel]

Me when I ball spam and dog bleed

At least rumbler is intended

Purg staff exploiting for the past few weeks with empathic evasion

[bitter zodiac]

this build is fun

and its actually really terrible

did like no damage on malice even

no need to look at it any further

[weary idol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946661851322789908/1009316500856918066/image0.gif

[prime elk]

you can do some ok damage with it

it's just sweaty as fuck

[bitter zodiac]

am joking

[prime elk]

tried a run where i only used fgs wave bleed

too much effort

[chrome linden]

Bomber resist includes those AOE fire pads as a result of their bombs right?

[languid tusk]

I want to rename my psyker, any suggestion for a thematic name ?

[bitter zodiac]

I just killed you with a barrel

[potent echo]

Michael Bubble

[gray juniper]

I see now why you guys don’t like beasts of nurgle. Spawning over 6 of those on magistrati oubliette is just wrong

[jovial juniper]

Get BoN'd lol

https://tenor.com/view/slug-live-slug-reaction-reaction-funny-meme-gif-25460913

[gray juniper]

Looks just like that niqqa

[plucky flax]

[weary idol]

Them and Chaos Spawn are the reason I don't play builds with bad boss damage

[gray juniper]

It’s trolly as hell how that slug passes through small opening and different stories to follow you

[strong gulch]

Bon taking 5 business days to finally show up. Monster orchestra about to give up.

[bitter zodiac]

oh dear, gorgeous

[pallid kayak]

Would a psyker ever want a 21% health curio

[strong gulch]

Sure.

on auric getting to 201 hp with x1 sniper resist lets you tank a sniper and multiple bursters

Some like more hp, others like more toughness, and others like both

[pallid kayak]

Ohh snazy. Ill buy it then. Thanks

[inland ice]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-staring-at-sun-cute-dog-dog-closed-eyes-dog-staring-at-sunset-gif-10310895250239531072

me randomly getting staggered 3 consecutive times by a flamer and getting downed

[ripe obsidian]

Lost because a burster ignored my pushes 3x, then blew me up. But Purg + Shriek is doing pretty well. Gotta work on taking less damage, though.

[strong gulch]

busters strike again

Glag shriek is working

[ripe obsidian]

It was rude

[strong gulch]

feels so much more free than bubble in many ways

[ripe obsidian]

Feels more impactful, too.

[strong gulch]

but also scary

ye

[ripe obsidian]

Definitely more fun.

[strong gulch]

more mobile

[ripe obsidian]

I died 2x. Once to that burster, once to bad choices on my part

All three Arbies were down a staircase, I was not. Tried to get to them. Should have stayed put

Got stuck between a bunch of bulwarks and a pogryn

[strong gulch]

😭

[grim inlet]

got bored and decided to take my flame staff/bb build into the mostly melee auric maelstrom lol

[strong gulch]

blast em

[strong gulch]

Next time we double psyker, I can take VB or EK and to help CC more or get shooters that are out of reach.

[ripe obsidian]

Appreciated. I do feel kinda helpless against shooters more than 15m away

[strong gulch]

yes

walk towards me you turds 😠

[grim inlet]

no >:3

[strong gulch]

crusher: OK

only can barrel you

SB only gets the hair ticks

[plucky flax]

Looks like purple? A lot of elite damage

[tulip kettle]

hey chaos, just wondering, do you play arb at all? If so, what is your arb called?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, was purple

[plucky flax]

Arbysbeefsandwich

Arbyscheesesteak

[winter bison]

okay so

why cant i access my warp blessing?

its different for the other weapons i have

but somehow the force greatsword i cant rebless?

[strong gulch]

You need mastery to unlock blessings to be able to change them as you please.

Not the same weapon group

[winter bison]

I have 20 mastery for the force greatsword however

[strong gulch]

Did you spend them?

[winter bison]

spend?

OH IM A FOOL

THERES A MASTERIES TAB RIGHT THERE

MY APOLOGIES 💀

I THOUGHT YOU HAD TO DO THAT AT HADRONS THING

[strong gulch]

No. Blame fatshark

It's kinda obtuse

[hearty wolf]

Zzz

[marble crater]

Can you imagine having all the things related to unlocking and upgrading weapons in the same place? Good joke

[merry sinew]

my surge staff only ever hits 2 targets... is there a way to hit more? folks said taking the smite upgrade path gets 1 extra target, and warp splitting is another.. tried having both on and hovering at 95-100 peril and still only hitting 2..

[marble crater]

No, who told you that

[merry sinew]

idk.. was just in a few games and ppl were telling me..

so it's just 2? XD

[mental rock]

Yeah it's just 2, idk who told you those things but they were misinformed

[merry sinew]

lol F

So there's no way to get more than 2 on the right click? XD

paaaain

[mental rock]

Not at the moment

It's meant to be a mainly single target staff

[marble crater]

2 is all you need really, the staff is great the way it is

[merry sinew]

i c i c.

[marble crater]

But in case Fatshark is reading this: Surge staff is super weak and really needs buff, please

[azure quarry]

is toughness regen really wanted in curios?

[ripe obsidian]

This one went better. Chasm Logistratum, Pus-hardened/Red

[mental rock]

No, especially not for psyker

[marble crater]

No, it only counts coherency toughness which doesn't work most of the time when you actually need it

[marble crater]

That is some nice warpfire damage

[merry sinew]

lol .. would just be nice if it hit more enemies...

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you. I have started trying Shriek instead of Bubble. Got frustrated at Arbitrators and Ogryns outdamaging me

[azure quarry]

ah, guide said S tier so was wondering. Do I need to go 1 stam and 2 toughness or would 2 tough 1 health work? Also running 3 Ability regen perks work?

[marble crater]

All of those work

[azure quarry]

I tried getting mods to work so I could use that and I failed

[ripe obsidian]

Guide is outdated. Functionality got changed, and it's not great now. Toughness regen, that is

[azure quarry]

fair

[marble crater]

I guess, I would rather have other buffs I think, because the second target hit doesn't take a lot of damage to begin with, just gets stunned really, can trigger Kinetic Flayer though which is nice

[ripe obsidian]

I cannot remember how I got mods working the first time. The mod plugin + Vortex

[azure quarry]

I did that and was stuck on processing

[zinc comet]

Just need the framework and the loader and then you can do everything manually

[azure quarry]

it should work but again was stuck on processing screen

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40-warhameer-omnisia-omnissia-mechanicus-gif-11551231392329206260

That's how

[ripe obsidian]

Seems right.

I will reiterate that Shriek feels much more fun, dynamic, and impactful than bubble

Although, I do miss bubble sometimes

When there are eighty gunners across the way and no one is shooting them, for example

[marble crater]

Simple solution, bring a second psyker for bubble

[plucky flax]

Play surge its better with shriek

[marble crater]

Inferno Shriek
Rending Blast Bubble

[plucky flax]

But not into purple

[ripe obsidian]

I have.

[plucky flax]

Unless your purple targeting is on point with surge

Like me

Sry like unsanctioned. Im not that good

[ripe obsidian]

I like Purgatus more than Surge tbh

It gives me more dopamine

Surge is fine

[plucky flax]

Fair.

[summer prairie]

I can confirm that only dog kills seem to trigger EO right now, and probably not even dog kills if it's voltaic mandibles

server only issue

[ripe obsidian]

Well, that's not ideal.

[marble crater]

That's why I am so bad on arby, Fatshark is holding me back

[pure scaffold]

I’ve been able to proc eo while under lone wolf

[summer prairie]

I thought I also would have noticed since I've played EO lone wolf a bunch, but at least here wasn't getting any visible procs https://streamable.com/v75ad4

[azure quarry]

is it better to run Penetrating Flame or Warp Nexus on Inferno staff?

[patent jacinth]

Warp nexus blaze away

If you really want to use the sleep stick

[azure quarry]

sleep stick?

[patent jacinth]

Puts the user to sleep

[azure quarry]

ah cause boring

[patent jacinth]

Because you hold two buttons and watch things disappear

[azure quarry]

also warp resist is dump right/

[patent jacinth]

On everything except voidstrike

[azure quarry]

is this one one of those, "leave resist as low as possible" deals?

[patent jacinth]

No

It’s just the least desirable stat

A min warp res staff would not be fun to use

[azure quarry]

I ask cause I have resist at 24 and quell at 61 while the rest are max

[marble crater]

Don't keep other stats low for the sake of lower warp res

[ripe obsidian]

Gotta say, PotS feels like an awful talent, through and through. 10% rending, even if you're over 75% peril all the time, doesn't feel particularly impactful, and the requirement to keep it up feels harder than any other class's rending nodes.

[summer prairie]

psyker shouldn't get any rending at all, at least not rending that applies to SB

[ripe obsidian]

That's fair.

[wind wind]

Give rending to smite

[marble crater]

[wind wind]

[timber parcel]

Can keep that purg staff for a vent build and get another one for a bubble build

[azure quarry]

already started upping it

[gray juniper]

That’s a great idea. I’m going to @ kitefin directly and make sure the devs see

[wraith sphinx]

Give smite 60m range too

Maybe it will be good to use then

[gray juniper]

Why not 100?

Make it jump to team mates also

[wraith sphinx]

True make it 120

[gray juniper]

It’s inconceivable that others can pass through the lighting. Ruins immersion. Make it a hard barrier that players can’t pass

[wind wind]

All jokes aside, i would love that. Also, it would make sense. Electrical friction (which is what smite is) does wear down materiel in real life.

Or, barring that, give smite burn as an effect. Its literally electricity

[wraith sphinx]

Pretty sure enfeeble does that already, kinda

[patent jacinth]

Make smite harm the psyker because electricity hurts fingers

[wind wind]

Isnt that what the peril meter is for?

[patent jacinth]

Smite can’t perils proc

[gray juniper]

Yes smite should have a better damage efffect than on target damage alone. I can’t recall any shock damage nodes in the tree beside the weak ass 10% one. No blessings or anything else relevant

[patent jacinth]

It hardstops you

[gray juniper]

Yes burnt finger tips. Mandatory hot hands animation

[wind wind]

Psyker dipping his fingies into a tub of aloe vera after smite usage animation when?

[gray juniper]

2.5 second donning the oven mittens animation to smite

[wind wind]

Honey, dinner's ready. Medium rare cooked heretics

[gray juniper]

Some guaranteed still squirming

More than half

[wind wind]

Ogryn be like: "just keep chewing till it stops moving"

[marble crater]

You guys are now banned from balance suggestions

[gray juniper]

I ways already banned. I’m violating ToS

[azure quarry]

So what builds are havoc viable?

[patent jacinth]

Depends on your skill

You can run anything in havoc if you’re good enough

[azure quarry]

I guess I deserved that

[gray juniper]

In lower havoc it doesn’t matter as much. I’ve done up to 20 with everything from gun to elec staff. Then I learned a hard lesson queuing up for havoc 25 with the same staff

[patent jacinth]

Below havoc 20 isn’t even damnation

I don’t even remember if it has Fading Light or not

[gray juniper]

After that other point to the pinned messages and suggest using the shriek build and replacing it with bubble

[patent jacinth]

Pinned builds are outdated

[azure quarry]

Well atm I'm practicing inferno bubble

[gray juniper]

Ok so do you have anything worthwhile to help him?

[patent jacinth]

I don’t like the psyker “meta” for havoc because it just boils down to staff spam and dome

[gray juniper]

Yea it sucks that’s not wrong

[patent jacinth]

Which is the least engaging thing ever

[azure quarry]

I'd try smite but I know I'd be murdered

[patent jacinth]

Smite is the ultimate stalling tool, it accomplishes very little if your team can’t work with it, and bores a team that can work with it, in addition to denying a lot of really good buffs

[gray juniper]

Idk others have got there, I haven’t. I can play auric reliably with rhe EK staff but it’s not the same in havoc with modifiers and director. As much as I don’t like the meta, I’m following it because players experienced by those levels recommend it

[spice burrow]

Can someone here help me do the cliffhanger penance with psyker because I'm loosing my mind trying to do this with randoms

[gray juniper]

Yea sure

[spice burrow]

What's Ur code so I can inv u

[gray juniper]

In my name

[azure quarry]

Alright I guess inferno bubble it stays

[patent jacinth]

Yeah as long as you can dodge and don’t back yourself into a corner Purg+bubble works hideously well

Infinite cleave is fair and balanced

[azure quarry]

Btw what's the easiest way to complete Shoot Fast penance?

[patent jacinth]

No idea what that one is

Remind me

[tulip kettle]

its all fun and games

[halcyon plover]

everything except terminus warrant

[tulip kettle]

until 30 pink and red ragers come

and your team have decided to run 3 rooms ahead in the few seconds you turned around to look wtf that sound was

[azure quarry]

Kill 25 hounds, mutants, or trappers before they incapacitate me or ally

[azure quarry]

So smite and electro staff? Lol

[halcyon plover]

oops I thought I opened Arbites chat LOL

misclick

[azure quarry]

Lmao

[halcyon plover]

everything on Psyker is great if you're great I think

[tulip kettle]

idk

recently i have learned

why i started using FGS

and stopped using DS4

[halcyon plover]

the standout tools are smite, infernus staff, dueling sword

[patent jacinth]

Because one sparks joy and one does not

[tulip kettle]

DS4 will NOT save you vs unstaggerable healing rager packs

you WILL die

FGS however

bonk bonk bonk

[halcyon plover]

I wish there was a FGS mark with a stab H1

[tulip kettle]

just too broken

come on

[halcyon plover]

God it would be so good

[tulip kettle]

mk6 is already way good

FGS needs one buff

and ive said it since day 1

you should do a stab on H1 when youre sprinting

the animation of you raising it to your shoulder is so cool but then you dont just run someone through

[azure quarry]

Like relic blade?

[tulip kettle]

possibly i dont ply much zealot and when i do, its thammer time

[plucky flax]

Running heavy with fgs should be a spinning cleave attack.

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/barbie-fire-fail-gif-4451510

[plucky flax]

2 hits combo. So he goes from left to right then spin around for another hit.

Very based.

Weak noodle arms can't hold the sword properly or something.

[tulip kettle]

imagine the amount of force required to cleave through like 8 necks in one swing

our dudes are actually insane

with the spin attack, can you interrupt it

or are you locked in like special animations

[plucky flax]

I would make it locked so it's higher risk but funny big spinny cleave. Xd

Like some elden ring 2 handed weapon but a running spin attack.

[junior glacier]

What do you guys think of void strike staff

[patent jacinth]

Bowling staff

Also the gambling stick

[junior glacier]

I like using it with scriers

And giving myself carpal tunnel

[gray juniper]

You did say you got it right?

[azure quarry]

Give Psyker the Wabbajack

[spice burrow]

Yes I got it

Thanks very much for the help

[gray juniper]

Awesome. Don’t worry about party request just wanted to be sure

No problem dude

[spice burrow]

That's all the annoying asf penances done for all the achievements now U have quelled my miserable mood haha

[gray juniper]

Yea I know it’s pretty rough. It was the last one I had

[spice burrow]

Only ones I got are the shocking stuff for zealot and 100 missions without anyone going down but I've done 80% of that one already

[gray juniper]

I saw a guy do that literally yesterday. If you want to do it sometime hmu

[spice burrow]

After I've done the shocking stuff I'm down

[gray juniper]

Any tips for auric survivor? I tried once and got blown off the map twice consecutively

The maelstrom one

[spice burrow]

Play ogryn bully club makes it super easy

Or arbites cause he's really good now aswel

[marble crater]

Don't die

[dull scroll]

burga, it's piss easy

[gray juniper]

Damn this needs to happen so bad and makes too much sense

[dull scroll]

actually VB makes it even easier

[marble crater]

Play easy maelstroms

[gray juniper]

My luck that something that’s a rarity happens the moment i consciously try to focus on that one thing in a match

[marble crater]

ask people in discord for help, surely they won't barrel you to ruin the penance

[gray juniper]

A nurgle death pop got me the first time. A buster still inside the door the second 😭

[gray juniper]

It was with people from here. They probably think I’m a goober lmao

[gray juniper]

But this is probably the key as cheesy as it feels

[marble crater]

For the nurgle thing, probably

[gray juniper]

Yea I got caught up in the momentum

[plucky flax]

Is that the 1 map or 5 maps one?

[marble crater]

5

[gray juniper]

5

[plucky flax]

Okay if you're up to 3 maps without dying let me know.

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

I can quickly do 1 or 2 maps.

[gray juniper]

Bet. Not today but I’ll let you know

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

I can also help, during my evening time

[gray juniper]

Trust I’m not going to drag people through all five. That’s a trudge

[gray juniper]

Ty too fren

[marble crater]

It's still just playing a maelstrom at the end of the day, I wouldn't mind helping with all 5, just not all 5 at once as I am probably not playing for that long all at once

[gray juniper]

Yes that’s what I mean. It’s a commitment of a couple hours at least

That’s too much and fatiguing

[plucky flax]

In auric play surge creeping flames for easy win.

[marble crater]

[gray juniper]

Make a build with empowered psionics and brain burst. You’ll have to do it over a few matches

[gray juniper]

Do you carry that into maelstrom? I’m pretty comfortable using it in general aurics but haven’t tried for maelstrom

[marble crater]

I do

Auric, Maelstrom, all the same builds for me

[gray juniper]

Havoc seems like it has so many more trash mobs coming at you. I couldn’t hang using the EK

[plucky flax]

Ye auric and maelstrom the same thing.

[gray juniper]

Yea same base difficulty I get that

[plucky flax]

More elites better for surge

[marble crater]

More specials also better, not always better for the team, some people don't know how to kill the problem specials quickly and then it's GG

[plucky flax]

I have 30 mins before food is ready can play a maelstrom now

Since havoc takes too long with pugs

@gray juniper

Looks like he's already playing

[marble crater]

[tepid wing]

unless they patched it a lot of people just quit out when they die to get that, it is (or was) bugged so it didn't count until you got rescued... it's why i've seen some havoc players in a thread suspicious of people flaunting the title

[marble crater]

They patched that indeed

Can't cheese it anymore

[tepid wing]

unfortunate for people trying for the title but it needed to be done

[weary crane]

They still havent fixed the bug with accepting join requests smh

[tepid wing]

they might fix it someday, it only took them half a year or something to fix crashing the game if an operative joined a mission while you inspected them

[stoic ice]

psyker 10% rending when above 75% peril fix when?

[weary crane]

Havoc servers still crash often and give a loss

[tepid wing]

https://tenor.com/view/angels-in-the-outfield-gif-24249491

[marble crater]

It has been fixed for a while

[stoic ice]

wait it works? dam nice

[weary crane]

It's still trash lol

[tepid wing]

i doubt it's just havoc, i had a game the other day on auric where i lagged out and it kept giving me error 2014 and 3000-whatever while i tried to reconnect for a whole minute only to find out my character was fucking dead and our poor ogryn did his best god bless him but he couldn't save us with a bot

also the feature of joining in mid-game only for your character to be half-dead and out of ammo? cut that out, you have ways of flagging people abusing the rejoin system and this ain't it

[gray juniper]

I’m nothing special but you won’t believe how many maelstrom missions I’ve seen end at the start with only one or two people that belong there

[stoic ice]

we all gotta start somewhere

[gray juniper]

My bad agent. I’m just doing regular auric to practice voidblast because I’m not that good with it

[gray juniper]

Yea nothing wrong with that as long as they take something away and use it

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma use is an art. Remember to think of demeaning and offensive things to say to the heretics when using it, it improves rending

[tepid wing]

VB staff is definitely top-tier, the stagger is one of the strongest, it's my favorite build on the "no ammo mostly scab" maelstroms to knock around big armored boys

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s definitely cheesing it though. I don’t want to do that and can understand why they’d be skeptical of that player’s ability to handle high havoc

[fresh reef]

installed the profile pic mod last night and forgot about it; accidentally jumpscared myself lol

[tulip kettle]

the more i play havoc 40 the more i realise there is just 2 groups of players

some people are very team focussed and some people are about individual play

if you are one kind and find yourself in a game with the other kind youre gonna have a bad time

[gray juniper]

Yes

I think I got slicked over into these guys hoping to catch a carry last night

How do you sus out people who are playing above their level?

[hearty wolf]

Their build

is usually a good indication

[tepid wing]

their drip
if they're playing high levels and they're dressed like they just stepped out of the prologue they're probably pretty good

[marble crater]

When they jump while trying to dodge

[wind wind]

As If anyone in this server had ever listened to a word of what ive been saying...😂

[marble crater]

I wonder why they don't

[wind wind]

Oh, i know why. I just dont care

Im not locked in here with you...

Youre locked in here with me

[tepid wing]

look, it happens sometimes, okay? sometimes i have stupid fingers

[wind wind]

Here is a consolation 🍪

[tepid wing]

corpse starch cookie, just like mama used to make

[celest quail]

Please let me know if this has been the common experience, but: Me and my friend have both been playing since beta and have semi recently come back to the game and been putting a lot of time in, specifically around havoc progression. We of course blasted through 1-15, and started seeing friction after that, hitting real trouble at havo 20/21. We (mostly me, he doesnt play as much) have been stuck in limbo since and we will go up to 21, then just get bounced back down to 19. It feels like these lower havoc levels are full of auric players who are still playing the "me me me" game and not playing into the team, not funneling or positioning enemies or themselves properly, not turning around to check on teamates, etc.

It is gettinga little frustrating that I/We are routinely the last two alive trying to constantly clutch or carry matches with team mates that are (for the most part, we get good people sometimes) playing like they are still in low level aurics.

[wind wind]

Only the best for my stardust princess

[celest quail]

Obvious answer is git gud, but is there anything we may do differently that can help us out?

more selective with team mates?

[tepid wing]

are you using the party finder system?

[celest quail]

We are yes

[tepid wing]

okay i thought you probably were and your experience lines up since auric maelstrom has been determined by fatshark to be equivalent to havoc 16

even though depending on the maelstrom up to 20 is probably more accurate

[wind wind]

From havoc 20 onwards you need a full team coordinating together via some sort of voicechat and Ideally, arrange team composition in a way that covers whatever you need + what accomodates the special conditions of each and every single mission individually

[celest quail]

We can routinely clear auric maelstrom, outside of crazy modifiers they usually feel like a "cakewalk".

[tepid wing]

i don't know if it's still meta because i don't trust playing with pubbies but running builds that insta-grant toughness like vet shout and zealot icon were required

[gray juniper]

What?! Nah they need to grind the lower levels and figure it out first

[tepid wing]

like if you didn't have at least one or two of those people would just refuse to play

[celest quail]

Ok, this is the input that I am looking for, thank you. How do you all go about that? The party finder system usually ends up with people just instant locking ready, no communications. Like I said, it feels like auric players just giving havoc a spin, not people dedicated to havoc progression

[gray juniper]

So this is why I can’t get passed 22 playing as payker

[gray juniper]

Tbh that’s not the problem. If someone is playing one of the core classes it’s easy to tell what’s up. With Arby players, which there are many, it’s hard to sus it out because only something like shock mine gives an indicator

[wind wind]

You go in this DC

You go to one of the striketeam Finders
#vox-lfg-emea for Europe
#vox-lfg-nasa for American
Etc
Whatever you region is

There, you ask for people to play havoc with you and what havoc rank you wanna attain, and where youre at atm
You also post a striketeam invite there

Then you wait.

Once youre 4 people, you join each other in game and then your corroborate. Who can play what classes. Whats your modifiers. What builds could help here
Etc. Etc.
(Alot of havoc builds and tricks can be found online If none of you have a clue)

And then you start the match

[gray juniper]

Do people have an aversion to game chat? I kind of want to use that because discord on the shitbox tends to make it slow down hard

[celest quail]

I lean very much into horde control and team support via bubble, trying to "zone" via purgatus and zap ranged from time to time via BB. A lot of the time though it seems people around the 20 rank default back into the "just swing at everything mindlessly" mode.

[wind wind]

Ingame VC is dead. Textchat is for gg and insults

If you wanna communicate constructively, do it via dc voicechat

[celest quail]

Excellent info, thank you!

[gray juniper]

But… in game vc works? I use it regularly

[marble crater]

You and like 5 other people

[gray juniper]

Damned to pubs yet again

[wind wind]

Its dead as in most have it disabled. I have. Annoying as high americans and mentally underdeveloped russian players have seen to that

[tepid wing]

not everyone
sometimes you get the person with open mic while they're having a conversation with their partner
or mom

[gray juniper]

Ah ok so i understand now

[wind wind]

Same i told the havoc Guy applies to you. Go into your regional lfg channel. Post an invite. Play with those while on VC. I do it all the time.

I can whole heartedly recommend anyone from the ogryn textchat. They are all super nice

Avoid the ~zealots~ gluesniffers

[gray juniper]

I’ll give it a shot later thanks

[celest quail]

lol i feel like a lot of the zealot community swapped over to arbitrators

[tepid wing]

i feel that's not inaccurate

[gray juniper]

I feel like it’s a type of zealot

[tepid wing]

the ones who ran "loner" as their aura?

[gray juniper]

Mayhaps

[tepid wing]

it's funny because i remember saying to a friend years ago that loner should count as +1 in coherency because then it wouldn't be useless as a team talent if someone died

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hogan-wwe-nwo-gif-5009267

[tepid wing]

but they never did that and they gave it to a dog

[celest quail]

haha gave it to a dog. GW mentality

[tepid wing]

to be fair they're all good dogs

[gray juniper]

Yea the dog is straight

[plucky flax]

Dog got nerfed so it's time to reject dog.

Embrace dogless.

[gray juniper]

I’m intentionally avoiding arbitrator for havocs though. Feels like cheating myself doing it first time up the ladder

[summer prairie]

it needs to be nerfed some more

[tepid wing]

there's no way it won't be but fatshark is going to let people have their pay2win for a couple months while they're on mandatory summer break

[summer prairie]

the primary function should be utility rather than free 400k damage

[gray juniper]

The best unsaid aspect of dog is jumping on a pox walker while you’re playing with auspex

[tepid wing]

imagine... a talent where your dog can get you up when you're downed... zealot mains are gonna love it

[gray juniper]

Gonna see an era of true solos with 3 other people in the lobby

[marble crater]

Also killing the trapper that got you, so your team can easily free you

[tepid wing]

i tried to get my dog to attack a DH but it just barked at me
then it attacked a gunner right next to her and she got mad and tried to tear me a new asshole

thank you, doggo

[plucky flax]

Oddly enough just played a round as 2 arbies 2 oggies and both arbies ran no dog (one was me)

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-disgusting-travis-kelce-are-you-smarter-than-a-celebrity-so-gross-amazon-studios-gif-12842333180799975388

[plucky flax]

No dawg in my lobby.

[gray juniper]

He got that dog in him

[marble crater]

Do you also play the archer class without bow and arrows?

[tepid wing]

arbies with no dog is just veteran with extra steps

[plucky flax]

Veteran but actually strong in melee and tanky.

[tepid wing]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-exactly-eating-castiel-misha-collins-gif-17216502

[plucky flax]

No I always go stealth archer in skyrim.

[tepid wing]

i cannot argue that

imagine veteran having 7 fucking grenades...

[wind wind]

Unfortunately, yes

[marble crater]

There is no other way to play it

[gray juniper]

Never did the stealth archer thing in Skyrim. Idk why people needed that. Straight heavy magic and hammer

[marble crater]

Elder Scrolls combat is pretty... shit

[gray juniper]

True

[tepid wing]

i'll still replay morrowind every couple years

[plucky flax]

It's just shit melee combat yeah.

[gray juniper]

Bethesda is kinda shit tbh

[plucky flax]

So might as well play the cheesiest easiest class.

But, skyrim with mods can be kind of passabble for combat.

[marble crater]

Then again people don't play it for the combat, so doesn't matter I guess

[tepid wing]

hey now they made some okay football games!

[plucky flax]

But you need a million mods to overhaul the combat into a third person action game.

[gray juniper]

I wanted to like Starfield but the loading screens is unplayable

[plucky flax]

Fartshart should team up with some RPG devs and collab. RPG game with fartshart first person melee combat system.

[marble crater]

Starfield, I forced myself to finish it one time and never touched it again, even though I paid for the DLC

[plucky flax]

Avowed sucked too.

[tepid wing]

my condolences

[upper sun]

you PAID for the dlc?

bro............

[marble crater]

I wanted to play early, at least it was free on Game pass

[gray juniper]

Darktide melee is hitscan with the illusion of trajectory right?

[spice veldt]

nah

[upper sun]

not exactly

[tepid wing]

to be fair i bought the deluxe edition of fallout 4 that came in a big crate because "wow fallout new vegas was good i love that game i'm gonna get the next one" and i was too ignorant to know that was an entirely different developer

[spice veldt]

it's not like l4d2/tf2/etc.

[upper sun]

you can hit through walls

no hit scan with that

[gray juniper]

Fair

[spice veldt]

it's more of a bunch of boxes that spawn along the path, as far as i remember

[upper sun]

you physically swing an invisible object

[upper sun]

thats more accurate actually

[plucky flax]

Swing deez.

[tepid wing]

https://tenor.com/view/left-4-dead-2-meme-animation-gif-12380834996063290645

[spice veldt]

which is how the weakspot priority works in this game

the box spawns, it hits the enemy, even if you hit the body, you've also hit a weakspot, and it prioritizes that

[plucky flax]

I need always headshot cheat.

Keep missing heads.

[gray juniper]

Omg I’m sorry. Fallout 4 was on gamepass. I never finished it

[plucky flax]

The oggy in my last game got more weakspot hits than me.

[marble crater]

Fallout 4 is still good, not as good as 3 and New Vegas, but better than Starfield. It still has the normal Bethesda feeling with exploring and all that, unlike wide as a ocean and deep as a puddle Starfield

[upper sun]

you have the highest weakspot rate in every single scoreboard you posted

[tepid wing]

i don't hate fallout 4 it's just my expectations were entirely different and not met

[plucky flax]

Yeah this guy got 100 more than me.

[gray juniper]

Definitely going to use this info tho ty ty

[plucky flax]

Maybe because he was playing BM oggy shield.

So his heavy 1 just hits 100 heads per swing.

[upper sun]

🤔 heavy sword maybe?

stupid easy to land headshots on that

[plucky flax]

I was playing arby maul.

[upper sun]

that has good headtrack

[gray juniper]

I love the animation with it

[wraith forge]

I saw with a mod that they made the usual ordo skins (blue, red) for the FGS as well but never released it, any reason behind that?

[tepid wing]

"fatshark"

[marble crater]

To make you buy paid skins

Why are there no free or havoc/hestia skins for arbites?

[tepid wing]

they haven't released a single ordo docket skin in like 2 years
and it is awfully convenient they made the weapon prestige skins a similar color

[tepid wing]

"fatshark"

their argument is the arbites came in after the battle for atoma

as if that means anything

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-gif-21373815

[tepid wing]

like i really don't want to be that guy but considering how much is paid skins compared to vermintide and how much helldivers 2 puts out
come on
come on fatshark you can do better than this
you've done better than this

[wraith forge]

For that reason what fool would buy those skins tbf... I'm waiting for a proper premium FGS skin

[tepid wing]

when you have 2.5 million ordo dockets what else are you going to spend them on?

unless you mean the paid ones in which case the answer is "because those are the cool ones"

[wraith forge]

But there's no ordo fgs skin that's the og point

[tepid wing]

oh i'm sorry you mean that specific weapon, i thought in general since there are so many others in the same situation

either way it does seem like there should be more
more of everything

[wraith forge]

Well it can be applied to all of them potentially but I specifically saw that the FGS Ordo skins do exist in the files but they're unreleased

[tepid wing]

yeah there's no good reason for them to be unreleased unless they coded it so badly it crashes the game in which case it's still been long enough they should've fixed it

[wraith forge]

I just don't get it, why bother making it if you don't release it? I guess there could've been a miscom. they made it but never needed it

[analog agate]

They will release it at some point

You know all these borders we are getting? They have been in the game since release

Or 99% of them

[tepid wing]

that's kind of sad, to be honest

[plucky flax]

It's just fartshart behaviour.

[marble crater]

I just want a border that is cool and let's people know I am pro

[plucky flax]

Maybe the poxbreaker one.

So ppl know you're no lifer.

[marble crater]

I don't have that one yet, but when I do I will use it

Going to show people that console players also can't have a life

[plucky flax]

With mod they can't tell 100% you're console or not unless spectating.

Since pc gamepass also has the xbox icon.

[marble crater]

Soon

[plucky flax]

You're 1/3rd my kills.

So you're 1/3rd my skills at best.

[marble crater]

They can tell because Xbox defaults to typing Gg instead of gg

[marble crater]

why flame me

[plucky flax]

If you type properly on keyboard it's Gg.

Always capitalise first letter.

I always type. Xd

not xD

[marble crater]

Heretical

[strong gulch]

Just bind g to "sorry".

Everyone saying gg but just say sorry

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/weeds-2turn-never-say-sorry-gif-6233087

[wraith sphinx]

sorrysorry team

[wraith forge]

I just don't say gg, lost it's meaning a long time ago xd

[wraith sphinx]

I say it when I genuinely mean it

[wraith forge]

In that case I say gj

[wraith sphinx]

I get "gj" when I clutch a section solo and rescue the other 3 players

[neat hare]

I say gg even in sedition

[marble crater]

I say it when we finished the mission without major issues, if someone was clearly trolling I might say "gg except for X" and then leave before they can say anything so they seethe

[wraith sphinx]

LOL toxic

[strong gulch]

I say gg for nearly every game but I remember to do it late. Basically just saying it to myself.

[wraith sphinx]

😔

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

I only say gg when it was a genuine good game with the team playing well.

if mr unsanctioned popped out of nowhere carrying the team's ass I'd just be

[wraith forge]

I say more inappropriate stuff in that case

[marble crater]

Takes too long to type on controller, that is why console players are less toxic

[languid pasture]

i say gg every time and add ez if we won just barely

[marble crater]

This is the way

[plucky flax]

Type gg ez carry when you do the least.

[marble crater]

Smh

[wraith forge]

And when you carry just say "next time, do smth"

[tepid wing]

i always remind the team that the bot did all the work when someone bails in a game and there's a bot vet with us until the end even if it died 15 times

"gg bot carry"

[wraith sphinx]

I don't like saying ez, it just sounds like pure braggartry

oops I got botted

it's over for me 😔

[marble crater]

[languid pasture]

what ranged is good against maniacs and if possible also bosses?

[marble crater]

Vraks, reconlas
Inferno, Elektro
Voidblast, not good for bosses though

[languid pasture]

recon las is infernus + ??? and then maniac and unyielding?

[marble crater]

And dum dum

Might be flak and unyielding, not sure

[deft stump]

Not no spam?

[marble crater]

There she is, the havoc carry

[deft stump]

Nu. You carry.

[plucky flax]

:3

[kindred fog]

What pattern of the blaze force sword do you guys prefer? I’ve been thinking of switching from Illisi to Deimos

[tepid wing]

depends on what you want it for

[prime elk]

good choice

illisi is the worst blaze fs lol

if you want a general purpose fs, obscurus

if you want a more single target oriented fs, deimos

[tepid wing]

illisi has better trash control, deimos has better single target damage and armor penetration if you get the poke patterns down

[prime elk]

if you want the worst fs, illisi

[cedar pagoda]

how do I shoot lightening out of my staff

i keep shooting energy balls

what is the bind?

[hearty wolf]

Spent so long fixing pc

And I think it was ha;lf

half my faukt

[tepid wing]

if it's electrokinetic it's the charged attack

[hearty wolf]

hours of my life wasted

need to waste more playing darktide

[marble crater]

Rmb and then lmb

[marble crater]

Hopefully it doesn't crash now because you broke your PC

[cedar pagoda]

it doesnt let me?

it just makes me shoot energy orbs

[marble crater]

Which staff are you using?

[plucky flax]

Man why is my x's feed is like reddit's feed.

Full of random accounts I don't follow with fake random bs stories.

[marble crater]

Twitter is full of bots, why are you still there?

[plucky flax]

Grok is good.

Xd

[tepid wing]

my ogryn son built a statue of the emperor out of empty ration canisters... the omnissiah is truly amazing!

[cedar pagoda]

electrokinetic

[tepid wing]

check to make sure your secondary action isn't bound to something else, it should be RMB by default

[cedar pagoda]

I am a touch pad player so I did rebind a few controls

[runic tiger]

bros, I think Eletrokinetic Staff sucks. Am I big noob? Am I missing something?

[marble crater]

Then just whatever you are using to block with melee and then shoot

[plucky flax]

Ye

[marble crater]

Maybe, maybe

[deft stump]

You need to hold RMB while LMB.

[tepid wing]

i wouldn't say it sucks but it falls off if you're playing havoc

[cedar pagoda]

it switches to my meelee when i do that

[tepid wing]

it doesn't have great time-to-kill on anything beyond a squishy

[deft stump]

Or hold whatever the alt fire button.

[runic tiger]

every time I use it, it makes me wish I had a gun instead but I play psyker for the cool magic staff

leveling it has been pain and suffering

[cedar pagoda]

am using it to stun the swarms of dreg cause I need my team to focus on the plauge ogryn

[marble crater]

Sounds like you fucked up your keybinds then, no one but yourself can help you now

[plucky flax]

Maybe the staff sucks at low level its good when fully upgraded

[tepid wing]

yeah you might have two actions bound to the same thing

[cedar pagoda]

your acting like I cant just press reset binds

[marble crater]

Well then press that and then try what we said

[cedar pagoda]

i dont have a mouse bruh

[marble crater]

And then bind them differently again without breaking it

[ripe obsidian]

That's a bad take.

[cedar pagoda]

secondary action is block right?

[hearty wolf]

I'm just a bot man

[tepid wing]

for melee yes

[plucky flax]

[hearty wolf]

I moved my pc too fast

So like

It turned off