psyker-class

[jovial juniper]

Arby's have it better

But all classes can apply can Skullcrusher

And it'll benefits once the boss is staggered

[long wharf]

you really should just accept that your opinion of arbites is absolutely dogshit until you actually play it

[dull scroll]

okay, say ogyrn, what exactly allows you to put stagger on boss, other than the charge

[jovial juniper]

The taunt

The rock

The slaps if you can chain stagger

[long wharf]

and the enemy is staggered only as long as the stagger animation goes

[jovial juniper]

Yes

[deft stump]

Arby just light spamming heds.

[long wharf]

good luck taking advantage of that window

[jovial juniper]

So all classes can

[last shore]

I added the class to my roster of 3 chars (psyker vet and arbites) because I find it fun. And to rotate through. Is that a problem?

[jovial juniper]

💀

[long wharf]

whereas arbites hits that weakspot once and you get a 4 second window

[jovial juniper]

You should've stated the better uptime at first

It's like you guys don't know how to defend Arbites

[long wharf]

why? your opinion is already invalid

[deft stump]

Once???

[jovial juniper]

Smh

[jovial juniper]

It's not

[long wharf]

well no, arbites hits it continuously

[dull scroll]

I don't care to def arby, I'm actually curious about the skullcrusher

[long wharf]

but only has to tap it once

[long wharf]

it really is

[jovial juniper]

It doesn't refresh while it's active

So you gotta reapply

[long wharf]

your opinion isn't founded on any actual experience or reality

[jovial juniper]

But it's easy

[jovial juniper]

Wdym reality

[deft stump]

Yes, but it means basically 100% up time if bonk bonk bonk.

[long wharf]

just your gut reaction to defending your decision to not buy it

[jovial juniper]

I played with arbys

[long wharf]

absolutely

[long wharf]

and it sounds like you haven't learned anything that way

[jovial juniper]

I legit saw them take 5 business days to deal with maulers/ragers/crushers

[long wharf]

those must have been some shit arbites

[summer prairie]

yeah well you can see any class do that

[jovial juniper]

When I just walked up to those same enemies and one shotted them

[long wharf]

I can deal with whole crowds of crushers

maulers and ragers are nothing

[summer prairie]

arbi does similar melee damage as a melee ogryn build

[long wharf]

it's absolutely ridiculous

[deft stump]

Takes abit, but 10 crushers no biggie.

[summer prairie]

and free companion damage on top of that

[long wharf]

and my ttk on the entire group drops into the sub 10 seconds range if I have my dog zap ready

[jovial juniper]

And yet as Ogryn you can just walk up

And 1 shot

[long wharf]

not a whole group, not at once

you're talking right out of your ass

[jovial juniper]

You can't do that as Arbites as well

[deft stump]

And we all know oggy needs a nerf.

[long wharf]

you have no idea

[jovial juniper]

Yes I do

[long wharf]

you don't talk like you do

thus you don't

[jovial juniper]

Stagger focused class
When the best stagger is death

[summer prairie]

he's not arguing in good faith, no point engaging

[long wharf]

or you play with the absolute worst arbites players

[long wharf]

indeed

arbites right now is borderline broken

it was broken when the dog applied max bleed stacks to everything it bumped into

[deft stump]

Like, oggy needs a massive tone down.

[long wharf]

I thoroughly enjoy having the dog as an additional attack vector

I enjoy it so much it made me write two mods to help with it

and I once swore to never bother making mods for Darktide

[ripe obsidian]

While being nigh immortal

[deft stump]

Tankier than oggy imo.

[long wharf]

we need an arbites psyker next

gimme a dog as a psyker

[deft stump]

Like oggy if perma taunt forever.

[long wharf]

and instead of manifesting crazy warp powers, let me use the warp to torture and bully people

[deft stump]

Nu, use warp to scritch and pat floofy moar.

[ripe obsidian]

For me, definitely. I feel untouchable on Forceful Arbiter 90% of the time.

Less damage than EO, but I like the survivability

[deft stump]

Yep. I like funni brick wall.

Stand in nuncio and "I'm the juggernaut, beech!". Till actual trapper sounds then panic hard.

[long wharf]

no need to panic when you hear a trapper, that's what your exshotgun is for

cleave through the horde and show that specialist who's boss

[deft stump]

I have shotpistol lul.

[long wharf]

oof

[deft stump]

Or bistol.

[long wharf]

you like to live dangerously

[deft stump]

Eh... is fine, right?

[polar flower]

Aauauufffhfhhfghfhh mgmmmfmfmmffmmf

[vestal trench]

yall should nonconsensually buy arbites for higui

[long wharf]

the shotpistol is okay but just okay

there's a serious opportunity cost associated with taking it

[deft stump]

Bistol as well.

IDK how, but it feels stronger on Arby.

[marble crater]

I will not tolerate shot pistol slander

[long wharf]

especially since FartShack fixed the blessings working on explosions

[inland ice]

I have a question

Im running FGS and IAG gunker

and I notice im not getting enough toughness back sometimes

[marble crater]

Post your build

[inland ice]

im running soulstealer and warp expenditure in the beginning of the tree

ok one sec

[marble crater]

Warp Expenditure is not good for starters

[inland ice]

hmm ok

i have been using to to regen toughness by just spamming the fgs special

[ripe obsidian]

I am between bistol and exshot. Exshot feels more fun, but bistol seems better at range

[marble crater]

Soulstealer only works on your sword special and your blitz, depending on the rest of your build I'm not surprised you have toughness problems

[marble crater]

Yeah

[tulip kettle]

i lost the havoc party finder lottery and wasnt able to see your friend unsanctioned psyker live in action is all

[inland ice]

I did put momentum on the fgs which helped a lot

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message consider something like this instead

[inland ice]

switching to assail?

[marble crater]

Psykentic's Aura is great, but for gunker it's much better to stay on the right side of the tree

[marble crater]

Yeah, has better synergy with gaze and disrupt destiny

[inland ice]

okay

[plucky flax]

Oh it's good you didn't see it. I played blaze trauma and got shot in the back twice.

I blame lag.

[marble crater]

Why didn't you dodge?

[plucky flax]

I couldn't react I think.

[tulip kettle]

they didnt say lag of his internet connection

[marble crater]

Smh

[plucky flax]

Instant down from gunner shooting me back.

[marble crater]

No dodge mod

[plucky flax]

Unsanctioned guy still got top damage though must be scoreboard cheat.

[marble crater]

It's known that he cheats

The Youtube comments told me

[plucky flax]

Pretty low soulblaze damage.

Didn't get good PC procs.

[minor wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bartlett-west-wing-head-desk-gif-6012433

AAAAAAAAAAAAH

The amount of "main characters" that get themselves killed by sprinting ahead

i swear

[marble crater]

Are you okay?

[minor wedge]

Nope

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

In hindsight playing burga would had been more damage i didn't need to play trauma with an ogryn in the team.

[minor wedge]

just lost an auric maelstrom (yes, i know, its not hard, havoc is hard bla bla) because our ogryn was always a kilometer behind the group, then got mauled after the rest of us was already past a point of no return, while our Arbites was living out his hero fantasy 2 kilometers ahead of everyone else only to get hit by 3 snipers at once (it was BIIV modifier)

[plucky flax]

Maybe I just wanted to play trauma cos I missed it.

[gray juniper]

You know it’s going to go well when you cue up auric maelstrom and everyone dies at the opening

[sullen gale]

is it worth levelling this for the extra 7% cloud?

[tulip kettle]

it seemed to work out pretty okay

[plucky flax]

I really think blaze trauma should be 8 stacks cap.

[tulip kettle]

and YES

stuff goes to 6 in havoc and im just like

and now?

[minor wedge]

RIGHT?! it suddenly feels VERY crowded with people that shouldn't do auric maelstrom yet.

[sullen gale]

extra 9% I mean*

[marble crater]

Yes, don't dump warp res at the cost of other stats

[plucky flax]

Ye go 80% cloud

[sullen gale]

tyty!!!

[minor wedge]

Rifthaven my beloved

[sullen gale]

perfect 🙏 ty!!

[tulip kettle]

i also notice, on my last BK game, i did less than 100k dmg from warpfire. Is PC really worth it at that point? I feel like the dogs steal too many procs

[mossy ore]

What staff is best

[ripe obsidian]

Any that isn't named Voidstrike.

[tulip kettle]

depends on the difficulty level and play style

[minor wedge]

None and all of them

[minor wedge]

Oh please, dont you enjoy throwing your balls at enemies?

XD

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is my favorite staff. It also sucks.

[mossy ore]

One of my gfs is playing psycher, she runs the fire staff right now

[gray juniper]

It looks cool

It just doesn’t do enough

[tulip kettle]

inferno gets better as you increase in difficulty, imo its not really worth using on anything but the hardest difficulties

[plucky flax]

BK?

[tulip kettle]

bubble knight of course

🙂

[minor wedge]

Burgerking

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah you do really low warpfire damage with that.

But, it's useful for when they send 20 shotgunners.

So maybe once every 2 games it's worth it but it's nice enough.

[tulip kettle]

fair enough

[gray juniper]

Shotty guy is a fearless menace

[minor wedge]

Nah just gotta keep your peril at 75% for maximum warpfire eficciency

[plucky flax]

Cos the shotgunner trains are normally really tight together for some reason.

[strong gulch]

20 shotgunners not being a hyperbolic statement. They just show up. 😭

[tulip kettle]

i love to see it

oh DELICIOUS assail targets

i usually feel like 20 shotgunners is the director going

[stark crown]

Havoc 40 shotgun trains are truly the epitome of you either live or die instantly

[tulip kettle]

oh here have your ability CD back

[gray juniper]

Yea true

Some of the most aggressive ai tho

[strong gulch]

When you're dead and watching what spawns.

"uh oh... they guys..."

[tulip kettle]

what i have seen 3 times in the last week in different but similar situations, is "16 pink and red bulwarks and youre the last guy left"

[gray juniper]

@marble crater bro I’m having some issues adjusting to the new controller on fine aiming. Any general recommendations on horizontal/vertical sensitivity and is aim assist setting important?

[marble crater]

I can post my settings again

But sensitivity is of course personal preference, aim assist at light is not though

[gray juniper]

I have two questions

[marble crater]

This is also with raw input in the software

[gray juniper]

I have vertical set a full numeric value lower than horizontal because the adjustments are always smaller and that seems to help, but I’m also wondering if my sensitivity is too low or too high on both. Still same problem of getting promised chest aim but difficulty on zeroing in on headshots

[plucky flax]

Nice controller cheat.

[gray juniper]

And how does stationary dodge work?

Gotta fake it to make it

I wanna be like my hero unsanctioned. He showed me how to cheat proper

[marble crater]

Dodge if you aren't moving, I think. I know I have it on for a reason

[gray juniper]

Sound good in theory but I like to predict my dodge direction. Does it often throw you in a random direction?

[marble crater]

Always dodge off to not dodge when moving forward

[gray juniper]

Or worse off ledges?

[plucky flax]

No it dodges backward.

[gray juniper]

Ty

[marble crater]

You probably also still need to get used to the sticks, they are quite different after all

[gray juniper]

Yea I’m still building muscle memory on the underside paddles and I fumble it sometimes

Can you show your sensitivity scheme pweety pweeze?

[marble crater]

It's all 3 with raw input from gamesir

[gray juniper]

I can give it a shot and move my vertical a little higher. Ty. My is raw input the rest default. As it should be?

[marble crater]

I don't think I changed anything else, only shortened the trigger activation a few days ago, because Karien was flaming me for not using hair triggers

[gray juniper]

It’s a big improvement imo

I didn’t have a learning process for that. It just made things easier

[marble crater]

Left the dead zones alone, because there is no stick drift

[marble crater]

What is?

[plucky flax]

But she flames any one.

[gray juniper]

Hair triggers. Easier to not jerk around the controller with semi auto guns and seems like a faster response time in game

[marble crater]

Having them shorter is nice, but full hair triggers are too much for me

[marble crater]

Master flamer

[gray juniper]

Yea I don’t have it on true hair trigger. Just shortened response

I need some wiggle room for oopsies 👶

[marble crater]

I think I also turned vibrations down actually

The default was too strong

[gray juniper]

Omg I turned it off. It gets so annoying and makes my arthritis flare up

[marble crater]

Understandable, I think at one point it was bugged, I didn't have vibrations and didn't really notice. At one point I was questioning if darktide even has vibrations

[gray juniper]

It might’ve been bugged for you. For me it was like the game constantly had reasons to shake the controller

Barrels, hit, everything

[marble crater]

[gray juniper]

Things vibrating in my hands is why I have the problem in the first place. Literally aggravating the issue

[marble crater]

Yeah, off then

[hearty wolf]

Dubdundun

[long wharf]

sounds like a personal issue

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/what-nani-marmot-squirrel-turn-around-gif-2041453844604053512

[hearty wolf]

Mm hello

I'm rolling around in bed

It's soooo hot

@strong gulch is free?

[gray juniper]

Detecting a dirty joke here

[strong gulch]

Playing games with partner rn. 🫡

[hearty wolf]

Okie

@ripe obsidian We can game anyway because we are winner

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[ripe obsidian]

I am also playing games with partner. Elden Ring, in this case.

[hearty wolf]

I see.

I will battle with the randoms

[strong gulch]

I wish you luck

[last shore]

I prolly can game tomorrow

GF has to study

[hearty wolf]

Cool

[languid pasture]

if im folding to armor squads should i swap out FGS for DS?

as a gunker

[hearty wolf]

FGS should be fine, might be an issue with your gameplay

Or talents

[languid pasture]

whats the move when armor spawns then

feels like i dont have enough dodges to stop them so maybe what to do with FGS is specific

[hearty wolf]

Just make sure you know your armour killing combos for whichever mark you're using.

If it's maulers, iirc assail stuns them but don't recall for sure.

Otherwise it's a matter of backpedalling and funneling and only dodging when necessary so you have the dodges when you need them

[jovial juniper]

Push Attack

[hearty wolf]

Also the warp splice

is stronk

[jovial juniper]

The force shove should give you a slight breathing room

Until the enemy recovers

[languid pasture]

skill issue then i wasn't assail weaving and i was just spamming dodge

[hearty wolf]

Just test first, I don't recall if it's a fever dream I had that assail stuns maulers. Maybe it's just ragers

[hearty wolf]

also this

[languid pasture]

whats the combo for mk8 for armor

wait isn't the push attack just the force push?

wdym

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

9 meters

Throws off balance

[marble crater]

Mk8 greatsword? Either just do heavy attacks or use the follow up stab after the push attack

[languid pasture]

ok i thought you meant that was like an actual attack myb

[jovial juniper]

It's a little breathing room

[marble crater]

It technically is

[jovial juniper]

And the follow up from the shove is a stab

On the fgs

[languid pasture]

ooooo did not know about this

you use this to stab them in the head?

[marble crater]

[jovial juniper]

Yeah the shove throws them off balance

[languid pasture]

Light stab or heavy stab?

[jovial juniper]

The stab finishes them off

Heavy stab

[languid pasture]

word ty

idk what it is i find melee psyker way easier than inferno psyker

[late rune]

ah fatshark, never change

[regal pumice]

How does the force greatsword gain charge exactly

[gray juniper]

Kills

[jovial juniper]

Killing

[long wharf]

you don't use assail against armor

with FGS, know your moveset

you should be easily killing armor with the FGS

[languid pasture]

backpedal, push, stab?

[long wharf]

keep your peril up, ensure heavy attacks are hitting weakspots

you should be two-shotting crushers

[languid pasture]

ok then i am definitely doing FGS wrong

[long wharf]

the ideal FGS doesn't just dump warp resistance

[languid pasture]

high peril by assail and then use the stab?

[long wharf]

you want warp resistance as low as it can possibly be while having everything else at 80

FGS special doubles as easy peril gain

[languid pasture]

intersting

[long wharf]

I have an FGS with warpres around 30

[languid pasture]

there a video or a guide about learning how to nerd on this weapon?

[long wharf]

not that I know if

I prefer the FGS version with higher heavy attack damage

that's how you two-shot armor

[languid pasture]

do you know the combos for that one offhand ive been using the other one

[long wharf]

the heavy swings on that one are more vertical

making it ideal for headshotting

there's a nice stab in the mix, too

don't recall if it's heavy 2 or 3 (or if it's the push attack)

I haven't played psyker since arbites dropped

[languid pasture]

kk i gotta get one more mastery level to use that mark so imma just run it

[languid pasture]

same and i was clearly carried by arbites

[long wharf]

that's the real danger of arbites

new players starting with it are not learning how to play better

[languid pasture]

i came back to play it and i explode on psyker cause i suck

explode by getting hit not by peril

[fresh reef]

r8 the fit, gamers

[long wharf]

you fail

[fresh reef]

:(

[languid pasture]

that psyker headpiece is elite

[long wharf]

unless your goal was "colorblind cenobite pretending to be a zealot"

[languid pasture]

thats my second favorite after the witch hunter stuff

[fresh reef]

description on it is peak too

"eyeholes are just distractions"

[fresh reef]

actually 1:1 the vibe I was wanting lmfao

[languid pasture]

not gonna like man i had not idea they even had lore LOL

[fresh reef]

yee

most if not all of the store cosmetics have a description you can view

[long wharf]

in that case, success

[fresh reef]

press V to inspect

I think most of the penance ones do as well, and a select few in the commissary

[languid pasture]

POV fuck the meta

[fresh reef]

it's giving:

also prayer chime charm

based

[languid pasture]

if fatshark didn't want me to use the shotgun on psyker maybe they shouldn't have given it back 2 years after beta 1

[long wharf]

let's not pretend that FartShack has some master plan or design

the devs very much fly by the seat of their incompetent pants

[fresh reef]

Quick question: why does trauma proc Mettle multiple times? I thought that was nerfed

[marble crater]

Shush, don't ask this right now (it's a bug)

[fresh reef]

Ah

Many such cases

[jovial juniper]

Ok

So there was this bug where burning enemies proc'd mettle/perfect time

Fatshark fixed that

And brought old mettle back

Except it's not fully old mettle

[fresh reef]

100,000 bugs in the code, 100,000 bugs

Track one down, patch it around, 100,029 bugs in the code

[mossy ore]

For blazeforce greatsword and fire staff, what are are the dump stats

[vestal trench]

warp resistance

[mossy ore]

For both?

[vestal trench]

yup!

[mossy ore]

Got it, what exactly does that stat do

[jovial juniper]

Reduces peril generation on their respective peril related skill

[hearty wolf]

First run on

TS run

ez

[deft stump]

I just Bistol cos I know the feel for.

[tulip kettle]

combos for both FGS are the same

L L block cancel loop for trash

loop heavies for not trash

MK8 has fully horizontal slashes

but no super dmg poke in the heavy chain

[languid pasture]

are the blessings still wrath/shred?

[tulip kettle]

i think always wrath

[languid pasture]

kk. im thinking momentum or deflector over shred but idk

[tulip kettle]

other can be what you like, i think shred is better generally

but exactly

run either of those as you like for safety, or unstable if not crit hunting otherwise

[strong gulch]

Blessing on FGS is any combo that doesn't have warp slice, murderous tranq, or blazing spirit.

[languid pasture]

can you block an overhead with kinetic deflection + deflector?

[strong gulch]

If you're gonna FGS in high havocs, crits become more important.

[strong gulch]

no

[languid pasture]

kk then maybe shred is the move

[strong gulch]

Overheads bypass blocking except on parry and oggy shield. IDK about arby

[tulip kettle]

shred feels good on MK 6 when youre chaining heavies into armour blobs

and arby can block overhead with 2 different talent nodes

[languid pasture]

arby made me suck at darktide

[tulip kettle]

either the one that lets you block all attacks on perfect block, or the node that lets you not take more than 50 dmg

[gray juniper]

You get that perfect block talent that does it some of the time but idk I’m not cold enough to rely on that and count the cooldown

[languid pasture]

what are the FGS perks

[tulip kettle]

depends on mk pref and use

generally you run carapace on them both

[languid pasture]

gonna go mk6 cause i need it to kill armor

[strong gulch]

I will learn Arby in a year. After it's more settled and I can better accept new things.

[tulip kettle]

then carapace and unyielding can be good

i like maniac

[strong gulch]

cara and unyielding for perks on both

[fierce saffron]

whats the best gun for gun psyker

[tulip kettle]

because it guarantees 1 sot on mutants and the FGS outranges ragers

if you arent planning to hit bosses

and will instead have unyielding on your gun

[strong gulch]

You can fine tune it more on very pecific setups and playstyles, but that is marginally better than just cara and unyielding on FGS.

[gray juniper]

Something else I pondered. Would you ever take momentum, especially on FGS viii for the purpose of dropping some toughness nodes in favor of other attack nodes? No ultimate meta answer needed just curious on your thoughts

[strong gulch]

You can sure. If that feel comfy and you like it do it.

The other option is psyker squishy enough so don't take +15 toughness nodes and just take damage ones.

Get hit and die either way.

[tulip kettle]

just to add it also depends on the build

[strong gulch]

ye

[tulip kettle]

with some builds, especially bubble knight

you are taking those 15 tough nodes because there really arent many better choices

nothing you could take would increase your dmg that you can access with the points you have

[strong gulch]

Can't discount "Is there even a better choice?" things.

for sure

[fierce saffron]

what do you guys use for gun psyker

[gray juniper]

I’m considering dropping essence harvest etc on mk viii builds and using the spare talents on attack talents instead. Momentum should do well enough on mk viii

[jovial juniper]

Vraks5

Followed by recon

Followed by puncture bolt pistol

[strong gulch]

Vraks 5, recon lasgun, laspistol, bistol, fan revolver

FGS, DS, obscurus, knife, deimos, taxe, etc

gnerally right side tree

[gray juniper]

If you’re commenting in response to me it’s my fault I should be more clear. By nodes i actually meant talents. Just a bad habit of calling them all nodes

[languid pasture]

do you need a specific setup for fan revolver?

[tulip kettle]

yeah i know, node/talent same thing right?

[gray juniper]

That’s how it feels yea

[strong gulch]

I forget the perks. Flak maniac?? with hand cannon and crucian roulette

[languid pasture]

sorry i mean like do you just use the gunker build

[fierce saffron]

what blessings do you put on vraks 5?

[strong gulch]

What build? Also essence harvest is generally not needed.

[strong gulch]

Yeah basically

[gray juniper]

Hold up I’d have to get a look at the game

[strong gulch]

Zarona I don't personally like with SG. There's too much down time with reloading and few rounds.

[tulip kettle]

i agree 100%

[gray juniper]

Inferno/blast and mk viii builds tho

[tulip kettle]

i also think fan revolver is not great for similar reasons, except it also doesnt hit key breakpoints

[marble crater]

Dum dum and fire frenzy or deathspitter

[languid pasture]

is the fastest way to grind diamantine aurics?

[tulip kettle]

i dont know for sure, but i think it might be mortis trials

you can generally do them in around 20 mins and you dont have to hunt for mats

[strong gulch]

You have staff out for the most part and shouldn't be in melee much. So use it as a defensive tool like with deflector or to quickly dispatch a single target. So wrath or momentum isn't as much value since your staff is taking care of hordes.

IDK either, but it's at least guaranteed to get a decent amount of mats since people don't check for them like they used to. So I rec trials for dia and plasteel too

[marble crater]

Checking how many materials we get sounds like something poor people do

[plucky flax]

Karien diss

[tulip kettle]

controversial idea

havoc 50

but entries into havoc 40+ cost mats

[plucky flax]

H40 players are already rich

[gray juniper]

Idk about you guys but I’m constantly in situations where horde and elites at the same time is regular. That’s fine until it’s multiple ragers advancing quickly. If peril is too high at the moment I need something else to tangle with them while keeping toughness moderately high. I’d do push attack heavy on each then flame/blast the rest. Is that feasible?

[hearty wolf]

Holy shit man

Have an Ogryn

and he fucking keeps yapping

Just making excuses for every down and death

@strong gulch @ripe obsidian I'm on win spree apart from last game so

[gray juniper]

Havoc 55 but if you lose, your sad face in your underwear on gaming chair is posted, charged 55 in currency to fatshark, all characters deleted, net negative materials on new game

[hearty wolf]

I wait for you two for next one

It's so sad that I had such a solid team

The pacing was insane

and then the next game

This one guy cannot stfu to save his life

[marble crater]

Why not just blast them or stagger them with RT with inferno?

[gray juniper]

That’s typically my go to at all times. Am I positioning very poorly if I don’t have time for quell sometimes?

[marble crater]

Maybe, can always quell while dodging a bit

[gray juniper]

Inferno staff makes push attack less necessity most of the time

[hearty wolf]

I personally think this is a peril managament problem

This game is too easy until it isn't

You kind of have to play for those "it isn't" bits

[gray juniper]

What’s the suggested change up?

[strong gulch]

Blasting or purg / inferno LMB should be enough to control and kill them. BUT if something is actively useful for you or might be, give it a try.

[gray juniper]

Because yea there’s a chill flow state then it’s not

[marble crater]

Pick a lower peril value to hover around I guess

[strong gulch]

Yay!!!

[hearty wolf]

Leave a little breathing room for your peril and have escape routes in mind with your positioning. As a psyker, you can control where you go if you're confident

[strong gulch]

oh nooo

[marble crater]

To allow emergency blasts, I don't know

[strong gulch]

I can play

[hearty wolf]

Lots of psykers tend to rely on team for keeping them safe for big things but another thing you have on psyker is a lot of mobility

safe mobility with kd

[gray juniper]

It’s still the problem of getting attack interrupted or damaged by surprise walkers tbh

[hearty wolf]

so if your team is going to put you in a position that is potentially a problem, just don't go with them if you think it's safer

[marble crater]

Why should I prepare escape routes? The hell is my team for if it doesn't protect the main character?

[hearty wolf]

I'd say how do you think the Dog Ai was made

but the dog ai is better than most players 😭

[gray juniper]

Jeez I’d like to think someone directly behind me is going to ass themselves to kill a pox walker about to hit me in the back at least

[marble crater]

They took a knife zealot and actually made it good

[hearty wolf]

@vestal trench would you like to play 1

cos you never play

[vestal trench]

im watching the aew ppv

[hearty wolf]

yeah I know what that is

I watch it all the time

[vestal trench]

i was gonna ask abt the mobility thing, i usually do dodge slide into block with KD then staff if i need bigger stagger

am i missin anything

[deft stump]

Look, when three doggos protec you better than the three idiot owners while you are minigaming...

[vestal trench]

pro wrasslin event

[marble crater]

Back in my day it was called the WWE

[vestal trench]

o

aew's a separate company

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf I'll be ready in a few minutes.

[hearty wolf]

okie dokes!

[vestal trench]

they finally have competition now after wcw closed in like, 2000

[ripe obsidian]

I might be available? Not sure. Still hanging out with partner

[marble crater]

Back in my day there were no other companies

[vestal trench]

also i finally tried helldivers

feels not as tense and more about shenanigans

compared to darktide

[marble crater]

Helldivers on Xbox next month, can't wait

[gray juniper]

That would be dope

Idk how it would be though coming into the game late imo

[hearty wolf]

Oh yeah there is a big lack of intensity in Helldivers

[marble crater]

How was it for you coming late into Darktide?

[hearty wolf]

I found intensity in games so rare

[vestal trench]

even in the highest diff? damn

[hearty wolf]

Strategems are downright broken and you have so many respawns if you need them

Stims are insanely strong

you can also sprint away from basically everything

[vestal trench]

oh yeah i mentioned the respawns when i was talkin to my friend. his fave game to vibe with the homies with is helldivers and he always says darktide requires way more locking in

i finally got what he meant bc death does not feel like a setback in that game

i can also just

[gray juniper]

Lower levels just hectic “wtf?” Constantly. Then finally managing to damnation it was still a steeper learning curve. No one talks in pubs ofc. I thought people legit hate psykers on some LARP thing because I was constantly getting barreled on no attempts at trapper/dog rescue etc. I never used smite either

[vestal trench]

spam the dive button and get away with bad positioning

idk how it is against squids and bots tho

[hearty wolf]

Like

I should not be able to make it out of this xd

[vestal trench]

omfg so my instincts are right

dive spam

almost as if it's in the name

[gray juniper]

And by hectic wtf I mean you just see people running back and forth sometimes and you don’t really understand what’s going on at first

[hearty wolf]

That was old school though, newer helldivers it's probably much more likely I would die

Because the units are generally a lot scarier

[vestal trench]

ooooh

[hearty wolf]

Too bad you don't get to see many because you can just wipe everything off the face of the earth with strategems imo

And if you so

Oh no you lose samples

[vestal trench]

i did notice getting closed in on's just a big no no

LOL fair

[hearty wolf]

(Which I've capped so idc?)

[gray juniper]

Why didn’t hold down that crater? That’s prime real estate?

[vestal trench]

like 16 stratagems between all squad members too

[marble crater]

Sounds fine then as someone who loves ODSTs I can't not play Helldivers, so I will

[strong gulch]

Ok am ready @hearty wolf loding

[hearty wolf]

You know

I haven't played ODST in the Master collection yet

I kind of want to

[strong gulch]

load

[hearty wolf]

Only Rookie's sections though

[marble crater]

Sad

[gray juniper]

Yea ngl I need to support the galactic war effort

[gray juniper]

Man wtf son

Halo classic

[strong gulch]

Helldivers is fun

i am not good

[hearty wolf]

Wasn't out when it first launched :(

I got it primarily for Reach

[gray juniper]

Ok not bad

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045852608629325876

[gray juniper]

People complain the reach thing isn’t canon but it’s a good game

[hearty wolf]

Huh

[gray juniper]

I’ll just say it. I liked the halo tv show

[hearty wolf]

I swear to god Reach is cannon

[hearty wolf]

I didn't watch it cos of bad press :<

[gray juniper]

You missed out in my humble opinion

It has some grown up depth added to it that I liked

[hearty wolf]

Maybe I'd give it a go

I'm

Really

Picky with shows

[gray juniper]

Ethics on cloning, human experimentation, 40k esque mass population management ethics etc

[hearty wolf]

The last show I actually enjoyed was His Darkest Materials/The Golden Compass

And that was like over a year ago I think

Oh wait

Clarkson's Farm

[gray juniper]

Sorry idk what that is

[hearty wolf]

wat

It's one of the best book series of all timeeeee

[ripe obsidian]

@hearty wolf did you hit 40 yet?

[hearty wolf]

39, need 1 more

[gray juniper]

Ok then you could explain 😭

[hearty wolf]

and mine is fairly easy

[hearty wolf]

It's just a really well written fantasy and light romance book.

[languid pasture]

for bubble knight: you want to be at high peril- do you use assail every time peril starts to drop or is there something else you do?

[hearty wolf]

Concerning a girl and this compass. Which is important

And she does an adventure around the world. World is pretty interesting since it's in a war between magic users and soldiers (kinda)

[gray juniper]

It’s not for everyone’s taste but I like the original polish Witcher show

I like the new Witcher series also

[hearty wolf]

I watched the live action one and enjoyed that

[gray juniper]

Nice

[hearty wolf]

Also has one of the best songs ever

[gray juniper]

Which is?

[hearty wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9OQAySv184

[gray juniper]

lol how did I know

[marble crater]

Which one?

[hearty wolf]

A lot of the Jaskier songs are good

[ripe obsidian]

Good luck. I want to try Shriek Purgatus in H40 soon, see how much damage I can rack up. Or how much I can die.

[gray juniper]

“Silver timeline”

[marble crater]

[hearty wolf]

It's good fun, I believe

any1 else for havoc?

[gray juniper]

@marble crater the forward unto dawn one isn’t bad either

[marble crater]

Bruh

[gray juniper]

Sorry?

But not sorry

😈

[marble crater]

Putting them in the same tier is so heretical

[gray juniper]

There’s no heresy in the halo universe

Ok I’m sorry but I liked it I can’t help it

[inland ice]

chief is the heretic

and the arbiter or sum

idk i mostly edged to cortana

[gray juniper]

Wow. Just who’s side are you on here, sport? 🤨

[marble crater]

Arbiter sent on a suicide mission because he didn't win against the protagonist, gotta feel bad for the guy

[inland ice]

lowkey reject energy

[fresh reef]

on today's episode of Hahnda's schizophrenia induced builds:

[gray juniper]

Arbiter ends up stomping all his haters 😈

[fresh reef]

been having a lot of fun with this, figured I should share what I feel is the perfect iteration of it

[marble crater]

Arbiter's, fuck those heretic elites in Halo 2

[gray juniper]

Funny how Keith David voices the second most memorable characters from halo and mass effect

[marble crater]

Looks good, maybe drop souldrinker and the middle node of disrupt destiny for warp rider

[ripe obsidian]

I would think so. 15 to 21 stacks of soulblaze is like a 50% damage increase. I want to see if I can beat your damage output

[languid pasture]

they JUST gave him a star on the hollywood walk

mans 69 years old and been the goat the whole time and they just acknowledged it

[marble crater]

Better now than too late

[languid pasture]

true

need a keith david personality in darktide

when youre trying to be at high peril on bubble knight do you do that with assail / what's the percent youre aiming for?

looks like agent chaos goes for 70%+?

[marble crater]

I'm not good enough for bubble knight, I don't know

[languid pasture]

cause i think at 100% FGS push or push attack explodes you but idk it doesnt give % in the psykhanium

[marble crater]

Are you pushing the air or enemies?

[languid pasture]

oh i guess it's 4% if it hits?

[marble crater]

That sounds right

[languid pasture]

its just the shove push doesn't seem to proc it

[marble crater]

Only the push attack does, blocking and holding the attack button

[languid pasture]

do you know what percent youre aiming for for high peril buffs?

[marble crater]

On my staff builds I'm probably rarely below 70, most likely higher. I don't really pay attention

[dull scroll]

only the secondary push explodes you, if you don't hold mouse button to escalate the push and it's just the 1st push, there's no peril involved

[hearty wolf]

@ripe obsidian 40 ez

Had to pull off a nasty clutch but if you want to outdamage me

just play bullrush ogy

xd

[upper sun]

we have the technology to make bulwarks not shit we've had it since 2012

[marble crater]

Technology was lost in 40k

[long wharf]

you're making me want to play more ME3 MP

cut it out

[upper sun]

does andromeda have multiplayer?

is it any good?

[long wharf]

1. yes 2) no

you can still play ME3 MP on PC

if you buy the non-LE version of ME3 on Steam or EA Play

it holds up extremely well, still a lot of fun to play

[upper sun]

ye i know but i have the LE version i really dont wanna buy it again

[long wharf]

when it's on sale, it's $5

for the MP alone, that is worth it

[ripe obsidian]

No thank you. Ogryn is bad for me

[hearty wolf]

i think I might have to swap to it

[strong gulch]

big knife I guess

[hearty wolf]

holy shit

xd

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s pretty fucked up tbh

[marble crater]

Wtf is that color combination

[strong gulch]

Random.

Also got Deimos, VAG, BB, shield, DD, and crystalline will because randomizer mean.

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Blow up from deimos special I guess

Maybe from a PA because KD too me to 97

[languid pasture]

psyker apm is so much higher than other classes

[hearty wolf]

is it

[languid pasture]

At least on bubble knight it’s way more than Arbites or zealot

[strong gulch]

oh it got worse

there's a wound curio

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

This feels so ass

[marble crater]

Because it is

[strong gulch]

I'm rerolling 😭

FGS, trauma, assail , CDR, SG, DD, and unlucky for some with x3 stams

That is far better

[deft stump]

The guy in Saints Row?

[gray juniper]

Idk I’ve never played saints row

[deft stump]

There's a char named exactly that.

[gray juniper]

That’s wild

[deft stump]

Oh, seems like a younger him actually.

[gray juniper]

That’s funny

[strong gulch]

I think I broke my game.

[deft stump]

Cos well, the Saints basically fangay about him hard.

[strong gulch]

Yeah...

[deft stump]

Though the romance is basically just... Gib signatures.

[languid pasture]

would it be insane to go unstable/momentum on mk6 FGS

for bubble knight

[tulip kettle]

lost in the warp

[bitter zodiac]

what difficulty are you running that bubble knight build in?

[tulip kettle]

peril for real

[weary idol]

this look about right for a "normal" soulblaze psyker?

[strong gulch]

Ye

[weary idol]

or would you take EE over the extra crit

[strong gulch]

but if you want KD drop something for it

[languid pasture]

auric rn but i want to run havoc eventually

[strong gulch]

I would push for EE for havocs

Drop WB tbh

[bitter zodiac]

I am running a similar build on damnation but struggle to keep it consistent on auric maelstrom

i dread running havoc as anything other than purgatus bubble psyker or vet

[marble crater]

Too many stims

[languid pasture]

ive been getting owned trying to run inferno on auric idk

could be a skill issue

[tulip kettle]

inferno definitely loses value as you go down in difficulty but its perfectly playable lower

[marble crater]

Probably fell asleep because inferno is pretty boring to play

[languid pasture]

its mostly getting snuck up on while staff is out / dealing with armor. maybe my melee was the issue idk

[marble crater]

What's the melee

[languid pasture]

it was deimos im thinking i use DS instead

[bitter zodiac]

i run it with deimos too

[tulip kettle]

yeah i usually bring an anti armour melee weapon

[bitter zodiac]

i avoid DS at all costs

[tulip kettle]

deimos or DS or FGS all work

wrong replky sry

[marble crater]

Deimos is fine, sounds like a dodge and awareness issue

[tulip kettle]

demois feels safer

sorry DS

[languid pasture]

your awareness on psyker needs to be way better than on arbites but idk why

[long wharf]

drop the BB upgrade node and take EE

[bitter zodiac]

squishy

[tulip kettle]

but yes, the thing with infenro is its supressing nearly everything nearby

not just squishy

no dog

[languid pasture]

ive basically become paranoid on psyker constantly checking my 6

[tulip kettle]

yup just be aware at all times

[long wharf]

not just no dog, you're missing toughness DR

[marble crater]

[long wharf]

and have no flat DR

[tulip kettle]

i usually look around me when im charging inferno

[bitter zodiac]

and toughness regeneration with every single hit

[tulip kettle]

and no dont drop kinetic flayer

[marble crater]

Why do you hate kinetic flayer

[languid pasture]

is there a thing psyker does to be tanky or is it just always an issue

[tulip kettle]

i would drop quietitude personally

[upper sun]

KF very based

[long wharf]

it's always an issue

[tulip kettle]

its always an issue

lol

[long wharf]

the best psykers avoid getting hit

[languid pasture]

time to get gud

[long wharf]

using trauma or purge to keep enemies away/dead

[languid pasture]

trauma is easy to go hitless but something about it feels so bad to me

[tulip kettle]

even fgs is very good

at keeping you safe

it has a very long reach

[bitter zodiac]

do you guys mind taking a look at trauma build am using?

[tulip kettle]

go for it

[bitter zodiac]

oh i cant post it yet

[long wharf]

it's probably the aiming

[bitter zodiac]

am still new here

[tulip kettle]

post a link to the build editor

?

[bitter zodiac]

ja ill make it real quick

[tulip kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[long wharf]

as the explosion center isn't where you look but instead a projected invisible object that is affected by gravity

so you have to get used to thinking of it as a lobbed shot with instant strike

[marble crater]

Trauma staff is a grenade launcher

[long wharf]

just about

though the explosion is also stupidly handled

the radius for maximum damage is very small

so it feels like a pool noodle to targets outside that radius

which is why a lot of people like soulblaze trauma

[marble crater]

Countered by stairs and crates on the floor

[loud girder]

who has a psyker named unsanctioned nerd here

absolute gigachad

[tulip kettle]

blaze trauma is all fun and games until its garden and toll

[long wharf]

trauma should just launch a biggish projectile that explodes on contact with anything

[jovial juniper]

Unsanctioned Psyker????

Never heard of em

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-among-us-animated-just-some-plastic-gif-18581623

[jovial juniper]

[bitter zodiac]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f607029-bbe9-41cb-af1f-3fb2cb03a82a/my-main-goal-is-to-blow-up

here it is

[loud girder]

nah not agent

but he is very pro

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
Idk then

[strong gulch]

They changed it. More or less just get em within the circle. It's why trauma / VB and barrels are so forked now.

[tulip kettle]

few questions straight away

[long wharf]

what did they change?

[tulip kettle]

what difficulty is this for

[bitter zodiac]

intended for havoc

clearance level is in low 20s so far, new to it

[tulip kettle]

and how experienced are you at psyker

[bitter zodiac]

true level 115, just getting into animation cancels and move tech

[tulip kettle]

okay

so when i see this build i think its trying for a few different playstyles at the same time

but not really achieving any

i think its extremely overly safe

[strong gulch]

The direct center is still the most damage but the disparity between the exact center and out rim of the circle (still in the circle) is small now.

VB / trauma will explode barrels from much farther away now.

[tulip kettle]

and lacks damage or synergy. I would then ask, is there any nodes that youre particularly tied to? and what is your experience of playing with it like this, what do you struggle with?

[bitter zodiac]

to be honest, I struggle with maintaining my peril generation with this build because I haven't mastered weaving quelling in where i can.

I also struggle against massed ranged units. even sliding / dodge sliding to cover and doing my best to stun them doesn't always work for me

very rare for me to go down in melee, but its not exactly a strength of the build

[tulip kettle]

okay

awesome assesment

[bitter zodiac]

--summary, I stole this build, I'm not super attached to anything

I just want to one trick something into higher havoc, preferably trauma :0

[tulip kettle]

go for it

the issue with trauma at higher levels is stuff cant be knocked down

[bitter zodiac]

i didn't know that

[tulip kettle]

just never play final toll modifier and youll be fine 🙂

[bitter zodiac]

thats why the damage is so important

[tulip kettle]

yes and

[bitter zodiac]

: )

[tulip kettle]

you just need to be doing your share of dps

im gonna make a few changes and post and then ask me about em

[bitter zodiac]

anything you would change? how are the curios

ye

[strong gulch]

I should clarify that the knock down is still the center for big enemies but it is easier to do than before mortis trials (when the trauma RMB change happened).

[stark nova]

Can smite hit crits?

[strong gulch]

no

[stark nova]

Ok

[strong gulch]

neither can BB

[tulip kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f6073e3-d1ad-4ca8-b997-3b261c9476c7/build-20

[bitter zodiac]

I loved wildfire on trauma when I first started, but people always say its a trap. if its viable that make me happy

[strong gulch]

No perfect timing hurts

[long wharf]

wildfire is one of those things that you can really do without

[strong gulch]

wild fire good

[long wharf]

meh

if you're using purge, I'd drop it

[bitter zodiac]

trauma

[strong gulch]

no

[long wharf]

if soulblaze trauma, keep it

[tulip kettle]

for this build aboce

we arent aiming for crits at all

[strong gulch]

keep on both

[tulip kettle]

which is why no EE or perfect timing

its not what i would build

[long wharf]

oof, no EE is going to be painful

[strong gulch]

Still crits often enough to benefit from perfect timing

[long wharf]

EE is the best survivability node in the tree

[bitter zodiac]

how do i avoid exploding

[tulip kettle]

but its in line with how i would change the guys build to keep the spirit of what hes doing

you have

[strong gulch]

quell

[bitter zodiac]

skrill?

[tulip kettle]

a 7.5% crit rate

[bitter zodiac]

true

[tulip kettle]

EE is doing nothing

[strong gulch]

also know when you can cast at high peril

you don't have to quell to 0

[tulip kettle]

but yes the point of this build

[strong gulch]

EE on rendi trauma is bad

[tulip kettle]

is to use the trauma on big stuff

and the sword on small stuff

[strong gulch]

not enough close to reliable

[tulip kettle]

have very good uptime on bubble instead

you will have very good peril gen resistance

and even battle med

so you can worry less about managing your peril

[bitter zodiac]

I am more comfortable with bfgs, hadn't considered putting deflector on it before

[tulip kettle]

generally, start chaining trauma blasts around 50% peril

until you get to above 90

[bitter zodiac]

was running with blazing spirit

[tulip kettle]

then do sword things

dont

do that

i have deflector on FGS because you had it

and its not bad with Kinetic deflection

[bitter zodiac]

dont do blazing spirit?

[tulip kettle]

and yes

no blazing spirit on sword

[bitter zodiac]

o7

[tulip kettle]

and with KD and deflector on sword

where other people would spam their staff for crits to proc EE

you justblock instead

[long wharf]

I'd forgo deflector on FGS

[tulip kettle]

again, i had it because he had it and because he doesnt have EE

[long wharf]

again... oof.

[bitter zodiac]

it was suggested for me as crutch cause i struggle w/ ranged still

[tulip kettle]

exactly

just keep practicing and learning

[bitter zodiac]

warp siphon might keep shield up often enough

[tulip kettle]

and psyk aura

when you blast that pacf of maulers and crushers and stuff with your traum

blast 2 - 3 times

refill ability

play in the bubble and cover

if you get caught out, block with sword and dodge to cover

dont use trauma on chaff

its for the big stuff

[bitter zodiac]

i appreciate all the help

just curious, if I had a build with ee, what would you use as second blessing on fgs?

[tulip kettle]

shred

wrath and shred

but with ee this build wont work

[bitter zodiac]

not enough crit chance right

[tulip kettle]

because you dont have a high enough crit rate

[strong gulch]

When able, keep an eye out for how many warp charges you have on ablity cool down. If you are consistently putting bubbling down by 4 warp charges, then warp battery isn't helping.

If that's the case, drop warp battery for something else.

This should be enough to have really good bubble uptime and still get perfect timing which is still good on rending tauma/ VB.

Outside of preference, rendi tauma / VB is generally paired with an inferno psyker and that is kept in mind with this rending trauma build.

[tulip kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f6079b8-9672-4eff-bf94-8d613a639494/blazing-build

this is what i run as a crit trauma build

[bitter zodiac]

I'll save that one too

[tulip kettle]

if you were going to play this

concentrate on the loop of sliding and starting to charge at 80% ish peril

blasting at 95+

then sliding again and quelling back to 80

then sliding again and charging... you get the point

[bitter zodiac]

so you do a tech to quell while sliding

i see, otherwise you move too slow in havoc

[tulip kettle]

yes you simply slide then hold quell

when the slide finishes stop quelling

[bitter zodiac]

oh, that doesn't sound too bad

[tulip kettle]

you should get a couple of ticks of quelling which is enough

note that this is different from how the other trauma works, where you are looking to spam cast it without quelling

[bitter zodiac]

right, this maximises damage by keeping it at highest possible peril

[tulip kettle]

and crit rate

[bitter zodiac]

right

which gives rtanged immujnity

[tulip kettle]

for comparison, at 80+ peril you will have 42.5% crit chance

[bitter zodiac]

versus my current like, 15%

[tulip kettle]

yes

this also means

you can spam lmb attacks at shooters

as long as you hit them a bit you will proc ee again and again

and supress them

letting you get closer

and as you have flak on the staff the lmb direct attacks are fairly effective at killing shooters, gunners, trappers etc

your sword also doesnt have wrath

to maximise dmg into the things you use it on

[bitter zodiac]

it has wrath, not shred

[tulip kettle]

no i mean with this crit build

[bitter zodiac]

oh i see

[tulip kettle]

you dont bring wrath you run unstable and shred

[bitter zodiac]

right right

[tulip kettle]

i guess you COULD run shred and precog for some wacky 50% crit rate or something

[bitter zodiac]

why unstable power?

because the build spends so much time at high peril anyway?

[tulip kettle]

indeed

and the sword isnt for cleaving stuff

[long wharf]

now you're playing with the warp

[tulip kettle]

its for bonking big things

bosses, bulwarks, crushers etc

[bitter zodiac]

push attack?

[tulip kettle]

this uses mk 6 instead of 8

[bitter zodiac]

if its not for horde clear, is using this mark over the other just pereferece?

oh i see

[tulip kettle]

both swords use the same combos

[bitter zodiac]

didn't notice

[tulip kettle]

L L cancel for hordes chain heavies for big stuff

but mk 8 is slightly better at hordes, mk 6 better for big stuff

the staff here will clear most chaff and mid level stuff

then you get to bonkin on the big boys

[gray juniper]

It’s so invigorating to get matched with a good team

[languid pasture]

Mk6 has drastically improved my survival rate in Psyker

Bubble knight is so fun

[tulip kettle]

i used to hate ragers

now they are my playthings

[languid pasture]

Assail weaving is also very fun

Sad I don’t have the points to make assail better

[gray juniper]

The mark six is a lot better, but I’m finding it much easier to hit the sweet spot on bulwarks and Raiders both with the Deimos

[tulip kettle]

its not worth it

[gray juniper]

Having illisi only is living in the hood

[tulip kettle]

you dont need ethereal with warp splitting

and you usually dont need the faster charges as you are weaving a few at a time

[languid pasture]

I usually dump assail I’m not too good at weaving just as my peril starts to drop

[tulip kettle]

practice

[bitter zodiac]

to ll cancel, are you blocking or swapping weapons or something?

[tulip kettle]

i press block for a tiny second as i see the second light swing animation

my block hand twitches

then i press 2 light attacks again

[languid pasture]

Psyker definitely making me better

[tulip kettle]

some people swap and swap back because its faster but im bad

[gray juniper]

My philosophy with a gunner build is to clear the hoard kill, shotgunners, and gunners, and hopefully my team can take care of the rest

[bitter zodiac]

quick tapping q is going to give me arthritis in a damn hurry

[languid pasture]

Double swap is faster than block cancelling?

[tulip kettle]

it is

[languid pasture]

Bet

[gray juniper]

Like bulwark duels take way too long for gaze

[tulip kettle]

because double swapping can be done in 1 frame

using a macro

[languid pasture]

This class is so sick I was just getting tired of the game

[tulip kettle]

i think if youre zoomer enough its prbably still faster

[bitter zodiac]

is ideal crusher combo with mark 6 H H?

[tulip kettle]

yes

and with high peril, unstable and shred

it will be dead

[languid pasture]

You can two shot them baby

Fuck armor

I am now the armor slayer the fgs is fucking sick

[tulip kettle]

shhh

its bad

[bitter zodiac]

I am using your build rn (if I can learn why start with training wheels)
and hardest thing so far is muscle memory on charged trauma timing + slide quelling

[tulip kettle]

literally just practice

go on a lower difficulty

and make it your whole thing for the run

fuck everything else

[gray juniper]

Slow run time with that big ass sword cost me two downs on a pox gas mission tho

[bitter zodiac]

i am just doing auric damn, not going to ruin someones day in havoc rn lol

[tulip kettle]

get your blitz out if youre having speed problems

[bitter zodiac]

wha, is it actually faster

[gray juniper]

You guys told me about weapon carrying speed and now it’s painful to go back to staff and big ass sword

[tulip kettle]

i think its faster than fgs but im not sure

[bitter zodiac]

I was just running tac axe / auto pistol stealth vet before this

the movement speed difference is a bit jarring

but its okay

[tulip kettle]

i never struggle to keep up when i get assail out

and its usually out in the lul time

to throw at random shooters

[gray juniper]

I wish. This is during inferno/blast with bubble

[tulip kettle]

when im running bb i just keep the staff

[gray juniper]

Btw what’s the blessings for trauma?

[tulip kettle]

i showed 2 builds above

both of those are the 2 diff trauma builds

[gray juniper]

Scrolling…

[bitter zodiac]

blazing spirit + warp nexus is what I started with last year,

[tulip kettle]

the first one talent tree is a bit out there but its for a specific person

[bitter zodiac]

the psyker aetheneum guide on steam recommended it

[tulip kettle]

the issue with blazing trauma in high havoc

is you only stack to 6 soulblaze with it

[bitter zodiac]

yeah whoever they are, they must suck ahaha

[tulip kettle]

and its just not enough

[bitter zodiac]

and no stagger?

[tulip kettle]

well yes but i just wouldnt run it in final toll at all

[bitter zodiac]

right, i need to remember that