#psyker-class

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dull scroll
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it's honestly about the same shots to kill as the bolt pistol

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a bit worse at range, a bit better close up

summer prairie
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It has bad ranged fall off

vast yew
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It's not competing with the Bolt Pistol, it's competing with the shotguns

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The Bolt Pistol is kinda whatever on Arby IMO

dull scroll
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the thing is more than enough for specials, at any range, and that's the cherry

gleaming dust
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so with all these pinned builds, are the shrieks beeing able to swap for sheilds?

vast yew
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Oh don't get me wrong, I love it, and I think it's good, but it does have some trade-offs that make it not broken

dull scroll
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it's S-tier, broken or not is a subjective opinion πŸ˜‚

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but of course there's some draw backs

narrow herald
plucky flax
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Bistol is really good on arby because of extremely strong damage bonus from EO keystone.

marble crater
jovial juniper
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Smh

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Should've used the dog

vast yew
marble crater
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Shriek with EK and Blast though very fun

jovial juniper
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Most broken part of arbys

vast yew
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I would not Bubble with EK tho

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EK needs Shriek as they synergize strongly and you'll really struggle with horde clear if you don't take it

pearl viper
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EK?

verbal thistle
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Zap zap staff

gleaming dust
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what makes the bubble so good in general. I see the value in the shriek space making and huge soulflame value. Bubble just seems to protect from projectiles which eenmies are mainly melee

vast yew
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ElectroKinetic, old name for Electro Staff

midnight jolt
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Finally done with the warp BS, I was lucky and did it with the eletrocute staff πŸ˜‚
Time to do the hardest one, this one requires friends 😦

vast yew
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EK is just shorter than Electro

pearl viper
verbal thistle
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Ohhh

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I see

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Different penance now you need this

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I can help soonish

midnight jolt
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yeah

verbal thistle
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30ish min

gleaming dust
jovial juniper
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Iirc

vast yew
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Easily the funniest use

gleaming dust
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so whats the debate between void syphon and empowered psionics? the first lets me have my bubble back a lil quicker, the second lets me store som high damage quick brain ruptures for when i need them

vast yew
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EP BB is tons of fun but uh don't take it into Havoc

gleaming dust
verbal thistle
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EP BB is amazing for havoc

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Especially with trauma

midnight jolt
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Empowered Psionics for the Malleus Monstronum?

vast yew
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okay correction

gleaming dust
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wait whats BB?

verbal thistle
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I did a havoc 40 duo with it

marble crater
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You probably don't use Brain Burst enough to get enough value out of EP, compared to Warp Siphon

verbal thistle
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Brain burst

gleaming dust
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oh right

verbal thistle
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I used trauma EP BB with bubble

vast yew
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The big thing with Warp Siphon is it's a massive cooldown reduction and a really solid +24% damage boost to everything

midnight jolt
marble crater
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For that it's good

vast yew
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Private game pennance is different

gleaming dust
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i dunno you can get like 3 of them charged up from elite kills and theyre like panic buttons, seems better than a small cooldown reduction on an already fast cooldown

marble crater
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But for that you pretty much make a dedicated brain burst meme build anyway

midnight jolt
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yeah true

marble crater
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It's not small cooldown reduction

vast yew
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But also a 45% cooldown reduction isn't "small"

gleaming dust
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oh right i didnt read the "stack" part

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oh it can trigger of flames and does toughness regen too?

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okay that might be better tbh

vast yew
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You usually don't need the toughness regen, but yeah on any fire build In Fire Reborn basically means you always have full stacks

marble crater
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The toughness regen part is meh

vast yew
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6% per second with permanent uptime is actually pretty good but you just don't need it and/or it won't save you thanks to tiny toughness pool

gleaming dust
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how about the soulflame charge bit?

marble crater
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Warp Siphon for spamming combat ability and doing what you are doing anyway, but better.

Empowered Psy for spamming Blitz more

Disrupt Destiny for crit fun and more damage

gleaming dust
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oh right the pins

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i can just take this and put bubble on it yeah?

vast yew
# gleaming dust

I personally would swap Quietude to Soulstealer but yeah basically

gleaming dust
gleaming dust
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oh right yeah i have that on mine i didnt realise lol

marble crater
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I like Quietude because you can get toughness without hitting or killing anything

ripe obsidian
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Oh no, I am the weakest link

gleaming dust
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so actually so i dont go in braindead, what the playstyle for inferno, do i just spam fire forever or do small bursts then go in and melee

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and also stuck between fgs 6 and fs 4

vast yew
marble crater
vast yew
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And that's just... not great

hearty wolf
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not quite two in a row

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But look how long it took

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50m

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xd

marble crater
strong gulch
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Yay wins

hearty wolf
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@strong gulch we have 1 spot now

obsidian star
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whats a good dump stat on the staffs?

strong gulch
hearty wolf
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is that feck you are or feck not doing that

obsidian star
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warp resist>

marble crater
vast yew
marble crater
marble crater
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We need a curio section in the pins KEKW_ogryn

vast yew
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If that section could include exactly how many hp main/sub stats you need to hit 201 hp in Havoc that'd be great

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I hear a lot of advice about running 201 hp but not wtf that actually means

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And I don't have the Plasteel/Diamantine to screw around testing

vernal frost
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hi spyker chat does anyone have a good clip of weaving in assail into fgs chains

gleaming dust
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How good is emphatic evasion?

hearty wolf
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depending on build

vast yew
marble crater
vast yew
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It's definitely mandatory on Inferno though so you don't get melted by gunners while spraying the horde

vast yew
marble crater
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Is it a h40 breakpoint or just a generally recommended breakpoint?

vast yew
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I dunno I can't read

marble crater
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Either way that's one I don't agree with is necessary angymorrow

verbal thistle
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just need your fatshark code, social menu then press E

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and those wacky 3 numbers on the back of your card

plucky flax
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I need your social security number. The long digits on your credit card and the last 3 numbers on the back.

marble crater
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In auric I run 2 toughness with 3 health and 3 toughness perks. I can survive a sniper, burster or even a mauler overhead if I'm full health and toughness

marble crater
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Can you send me a GPU? loregryn

plucky flax
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You get a gremlin called karien to carry you in h40.

marble crater
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Hmm, I don't need a great GPU

plucky flax
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Just get a 5090

marble crater
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Pretty sure my PC can't handle that for several reasons, nevermind the price

ripe obsidian
marble crater
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From my research a GTX 1060 is basically what I would want loregryn

plucky flax
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Wtf

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I assume you're not gaming with your PC.

midnight jolt
marble crater
# plucky flax I assume you're not gaming with your PC.

Of course not, it's an old office PC, but it's still a huge upgrade compared to what I had before. 16GB of RAM compared to 4GB and i5 quad core instead of i3 dual core.
Not great by today's standards, but huge upgrade for me and it was free, including a monitor chadgryn

It's just something I will use for some strategy games which are awful to play on Xbox

shut kite
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Why psyker is the hardest class😭 (playing trauma staff)

plucky flax
marble crater
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So I just want to slap in a decent good value GPU and be fine for the next few years pretty much

fickle spade
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Psyker bros whats ur opinion on this dump stat or actually useful?

marble crater
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If that's not voidstrike then it's perfect for everything else

fickle spade
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for melee weapons i mean

marble crater
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Then perfect

fickle spade
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cuz some blessing work well with high peril so i was thinking maybe i want a high warp resistnace

shut kite
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also goes for melee

fickle spade
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mhm okay

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thanks

marble crater
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If blessings work well at high peril then you want low warp resistance

shut kite
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Is the 5% strength with peril actually any good though?

midnight jolt
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@verbal thistle TYVM my man πŸ˜„

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I have all Psyker penances

midnight jolt
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Finally

marble crater
shut kite
dull scroll
midnight jolt
marble crater
copper jay
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DS4 is cleave dump, maniacs + unyielding and Uncanny + Relentless ?

marble crater
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Can also take carapace instead of unyielding, depending on what you use it for. Also other options for relentless, riposte, thrust, agile

vast yew
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Also Precog

marble crater
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Only 2 seconds, so more difficult to make good use of it

vast yew
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I thought I saw people discussing Thrust yesterday and saying it doesn't really help with any breakpoints that you couldn't just do 2 heavies instead

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I did want to try it, mostly because VT2 Rapier feels

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But the mechanic was kind of a meme on the VT2 Rapier too

verbal thistle
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for blessings

plucky flax
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Shred?

gleaming dust
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damn this feels nice, big sheild to keep me safe, fire to burn hordes, force sword special attack to kill bigguns. thanks for the advice

plucky flax
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You're welcome.

marble crater
dense lynx
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fatshark... new force staves... por favor...

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beam staff... conflagration staff...

rotund dagger
dense lynx
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should be able to lift crushers then send them flying like a bomb

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i wonder how pre-nerf thorn staff would fare in DT lmao

jovial juniper
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It'll be a dead blessing 90% of the game

dense lynx
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and can we get uhhhh an electro staff buff

jovial juniper
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I'm not against a more consistent damage

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It either deals 80 or 80000 dmg

dense lynx
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its nice when u crit a lot but the peril gain on the rightclick is insane lmao

hearty wolf
last shore
hearty wolf
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:/

last shore
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i'm on

hearty wolf
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invite failed

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
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But yeah

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Havoc is broken I'm pretty sure

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Intensity is toned down

plucky flax
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It's dog abusing. SadgeCry

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Remove dog from game.

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
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Just feels like cruising

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Solo clutch I could have done it one handed

hearty wolf
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bolt pistol

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blessings and

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other thing

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perks

plucky flax
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Huh?

vast yew
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That's it

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that's the build

hearty wolf
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no

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the bolt pistol

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aside from puncture

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what else is on it

plucky flax
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Doesn't matter. You only need puncture to keep 16 stacks of bleed on monster.

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The dog only does 8 by itself.

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But if you get it to 16 then the dog by itself can keep it at that.

hearty wolf
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And you only need to shoot three times and then just go sleep

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I see

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Okay

plucky flax
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Yeah.

hearty wolf
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I will try this funny method out

plucky flax
summer prairie
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Dog bleed is better so it has to apply it first

gleaming dust
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You think theyll add new enemy factions like in vermintide? maybe GSCs?

plucky flax
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If you can let the dog hit the boss first.

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But if it's in havoc might as well shoot it first.

summer prairie
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Eh

plucky flax
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There's no more enemy faction to fight?

hearty wolf
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Is lethal prox any good

plucky flax
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Genestealers?

strong gulch
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There was an update today right? Game feels different and my reticle is different.

hearty wolf
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do I take surgical

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for elites

plucky flax
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I dunno how they gonna model them.

strong gulch
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maybe crosshair fix changed it

plucky flax
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Surgical is nice for specials sniping.

gleaming dust
plucky flax
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You can also run bolter with puncture.

gleaming dust
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i feel the cult would fit in sorta

plucky flax
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I think maybe it's for darktide 2.

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If dt2 come out they better transfer all the premium hats over. staregryn

upper sun
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LOOK AT THIS DUDE

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my guy you wont even get your plasteel

gleaming dust
plucky flax
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They can't do me dirty.

marble crater
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Hats are the avocado toast of gamers

plucky flax
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I reckon they make dog bleed normal bleed damage and tone down the stagger effect aoe as well as remove instant 16 stacks application.

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Still OP but not as OP. staregryn

vast yew
vast yew
plucky flax
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Still need to reduce the aoe.

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It's too big right now.

gleaming dust
vestal trench
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if theres 2 dog bleed abusers on havoc should i just go rending trauma LMAO

vestal trench
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got a friend abusing it and i'd rather not have my psyker feel frivolous

plucky flax
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Why not join them and become 3 dogs abusers

vestal trench
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more common in pubs now too since mister e posted a vid abt it

plucky flax
vestal trench
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i dont enjoy playing a cop

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acab bruh

plucky flax
vast yew
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Enforcers are cops

vestal trench
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the feds? even worse

marble crater
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Please don't call it dog abuser whatthefuck_heresy

vestal trench
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i mean

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40% of cops

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they apply that much bleeding on hit bc they come prestacked with domestic violence

plucky flax
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Did you see the amount of implants the dog goes through?

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Forced limbs replacement

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Better call the cops on these arbies

jovial juniper
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Class so mid they gotta exploit shit to be good

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Good enough

plucky flax
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Or the animal service

jovial juniper
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Welcome back Vet and Psyker

vestal trench
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"fuck the police" - NWA Perfectionist Q. Higui

jovial juniper
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I can't say that
I went to military school

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😭

vestal trench
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OMFG

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LMFAO

jovial juniper
plucky flax
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Cadet staregryn

vestal trench
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Perfectionist 🫑 Higui fr fr

jovial juniper
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That doesn't mean I'm going to spout copaganda though

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But anyways

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Arby's mid

vestal trench
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tbh the more i think abt it the more i get what u mean'

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i kind of have less desire to go back to it compared to the other 3 classes

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like it's there for an easy time but if i wanted a real easy time there's oggy

vast yew
vestal trench
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and oggy actually has bants

vast yew
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Curly fries are decent at least

vestal trench
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now i want a deli sandwich waaa

vast yew
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I'm still enjoying Arbites but I have to take off the Bleed Talent

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It's just too broken

vestal trench
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they could get rid of the bleed and it'd be like

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fine

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jack of all trades not specializing on anything is ok

vast yew
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I mean even without bleed the class has some really stupid stuff

vestal trench
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u got a heat seekin dog ffs LOL

plucky flax
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Tru delete that talent

vast yew
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You can get like +60% Melee damage from the bottom of the tree with trivial ease

vestal trench
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or at least limit the bleed application to the intended target

vast yew
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It's a bit absurd

upper sun
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did they buff it by accident in the latest patch?

vestal trench
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you know how when something just kind of works so it gets boring

upper sun
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why is everyone running it?

vestal trench
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or some shit like that

vast yew
vestal trench
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tl;dr instant 16 stack bleed application on an aoe and 1.5s cooldown

upper sun
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lmao

vestal trench
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im not sure im satisfied with my first h40 clear bc of it

upper sun
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we did it rejects we saved darktide

jovial juniper
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They ain't testing shit bruh

upper sun
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rending talent doesnt work right?

vestal trench
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the youtubers posted abt it too, i was watching my friend play and the team was 3 razorjaw arbites LMAO

upper sun
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omg

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1-2 maelstrom

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who wants to run it?

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ughhh

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chorus AND thammer

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bruh what are you doing

marble crater
upper sun
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dodging

marble crater
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Rude

upper sun
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know whats rude?

plucky flax
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Dog bleed abuser

upper sun
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someone bring chorus with thammer

proper osprey
upper sun
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i blame coal

proper osprey
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Gonna tickle him

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Imagine what the zealot rework will be like

upper sun
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marty gonna get so fucking buffed

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maybe ill finally get a stamina node

marble crater
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@upper sun I'm still loading in

paper oriole
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Do you like voidstrike or electric staffs?
Feels like they are outclassed in effectiveness and efficiency by the other 2 heavily, voidstrike especially

upper sun
marble crater
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Voidstrike is my least favorite

paper oriole
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How so?
I am curious, for me it feels like it doesn’t work against elites nor hordes :/

marble crater
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Elektro is great against elites and specials, pair it with venting shriek for horde clear. I like it because it's a very mobile and aggressive playstyle

vestal trench
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what sut said yea

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caveat make sure ur staff is fully upgraded LOL

gleaming dust
marble crater
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It can be, depends on the modifiers and rest of the team I guess

vestal trench
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havoc's the mode for people with undiagnosed chronic depression

paper oriole
marble crater
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Should be in the pins

vestal trench
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from the pins

gleaming dust
vestal trench
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yes

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i like how you got that from my shitposting

paper oriole
gleaming dust
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i think im gonna try and enjoy this game

vestal trench
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for the most part nearly everything is viable up to auric maelstrom

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then i think havoc 25? ish things get dicey

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or ur just cracked and make shit work up to 40 anyway

plucky flax
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Don't try bubble knight at home.

gleaming dust
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what staffs work in havoc. for future reference (i will probably not put myself though a difficulty like that again)

vestal trench
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inferno > voidblast > GUN > EK > voidstrike

gleaming dust
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is VB the one with the circle on the ground

paper oriole
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I love it is just gun, not even specific one xD

vestal trench
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yup

paper oriole
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Best spell πŸ˜„

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On par with β€œI just bullet” πŸ™‚

vestal trench
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for an actual suggestion i see most people use recon lasgun

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heavy laspistol and infantry autogun are also options

paper oriole
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Screw people immune to magic

vestal trench
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buuut def not limited to that

paper oriole
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I agree with this, I found them really good

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Although pref was vigilant autogun - I prefer border clearer as a melee weapon

late sphinx
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I regret to inform psyker chat ive fallen in love with the Illisi blaze force sword im sorry if this is the wrong opinion

vestal trench
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youll probs get less heat from that than playing smyker lmao

paper oriole
late sphinx
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i only play ball staff psyker

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its the only way I have fun with them

paper oriole
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Why play magic man if not to use magic stuff?

deft stump
late sphinx
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ive tried each and I dont dislike any

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but Illisi has more oomph than expected

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but as soon as I saw its horde cleave animation for its force slash I instantly knew "oh god I love you but discord chat is going to hate you"

plucky flax
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Its good dont listen to the haters

jovial juniper
paper oriole
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Maybe they are just getting bell-curved

dull scroll
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illisi is like a budget fgs

ripe obsidian
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Illisi is fine. It just feels like FGS surpassed it

dull scroll
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except worse in everyway

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well, I guess it's slightly more mobile

ripe obsidian
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I've been using Deimos for the panic H2 to get scary guys away from me. Unless they're red. Then I just die.

deft stump
hearty wolf
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We've got a 50% win rate

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this is far higher than ever

dull scroll
hearty wolf
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I am

dull scroll
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then play it right, by not doing anything, and let the dog do everything 😏

gleaming dust
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What is the most common melee to go with inferno psyker?

hearty wolf
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I am

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Practically afk

jovial juniper
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But that's a conversation for another day

deft stump
hearty wolf
last shore
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And got blocked

gleaming dust
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i did not know you could melt the helmets, thats cool

hearty wolf
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and I was like "no-no-no-no-no"

deft stump
hearty wolf
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I was adventuring for ammo for puncture and was chilling

last shore
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They didn’t fix puncture? πŸ’€

hearty wolf
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Dog does 1m

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that's like a whole extra player

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so I can afk

gleaming dust
narrow herald
dull scroll
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is it really a bug, when it's this awesome

ripe obsidian
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Dog causes 8 stacks of bleed to everything it hits, and it counts 4 different hits during its pounce. So enemies can potentially hit 16 bleed stacks instantly.

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Also, the bleed is scaling properly with +companion damage nodes.

strong gulch
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@hearty wolf almost back

ripe obsidian
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Is not bug, as far as I can tell.

hearty wolf
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tyt

ripe obsidian
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Is working as intended. But how it's intended to work is bad.

plucky flax
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It is acknowledged by fs dog bleed is doing too much damage

upper sun
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we just had an amazing i-ii maelstrom with 3500 kills in 25 minutes

narrow herald
upper sun
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thank u fatshark for fixing the spawns

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it was SO hype

last shore
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πŸ’€

marble crater
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Half the kills from doggos

narrow herald
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Nah I refuse to believe that bleed kills captains in less than 30s

dull scroll
narrow herald
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This can't be international

hearty wolf
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You're right

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It does it faster

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It's like Thammer

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but a dog

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what is confusing about that

narrow herald
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I also don't think bleed scales off of other damage sources, it mostly is applied from the rending or debuff

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People thought the bolt pistol explosion was intentional and then they patched it

hearty wolf
narrow herald
ripe obsidian
strong gulch
narrow herald
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I would applaud Fatshark for fucking up in a good way, but they also fucked up FSR so I can't play 😞

marble crater
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Sad

deft stump
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And I don't think you are a Nuncio type player.

late sphinx
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People using FSR abbreviations but not talking about the cult classic Flower Sun and Rain for Nintendo DS

marble crater
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Break the Line or bust

late sphinx
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what a world I live in

hearty wolf
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I will try others later

plucky flax
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Castration stance Yep

marble crater
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insert "not what I am called" meme

deft stump
marble crater
ripe obsidian
deft stump
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Or puppo attack.

ripe obsidian
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You are the dog's companion

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Dog is the true hero

thorn cedar
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this is BarkTide now

round summit
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what melee weps are good?

marble crater
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All the force swords and dueling sword mk4 are good and most used on psyker

round summit
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hmm okey

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im using devils claw

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currently

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just cuz i want to survive

robust jacinth
marble crater
runic tiger
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do you guys think it is a big fuck up to prefer quell speed as a dump stat than warp resistance?

thorn cedar
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Most of these nerds do.

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I do not.

marble crater
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Nerd

thorn cedar
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Quelling is already so generously achieved and at higher levels you're mostly quelling through triggered effects instead of actively quelling.

proper osprey
runic tiger
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hmm I just never really felt my quell speed really made a big change but I'm noob psyker, I only play it sometimes

thorn cedar
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Don't need it, don't want it.

copper jay
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What perks and blessing do you use on Obscurus ?

hearty wolf
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@last shore need to take your dog back to the store

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I think Forceful is actually more dps unless you stole more bleed

hearty wolf
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that 25% strength is crazy that it gives you

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but I didn't realise how QUICKLY EO marks

last shore
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i was more so focused on ranged/melee'ing than dog bleeds KEKW_ogryn

hearty wolf
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ICIC

last shore
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yeah EO marks fast

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ggs, gonna go eat

marble crater
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Disrupt Destiny if it was good Tomfoolery

ripe obsidian
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Forceful shouldn't be more DPS. The bleed damage from EO is a 150% increase

jovial juniper
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And last time I checked

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Flak Maniacs

last shore
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@strong gulch added ya to friends in game

jovial juniper
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Or maybe flak carapace

copper jay
jovial juniper
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Just hit heads lol

hearty wolf
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Because strength is universal all

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and you also the attack speed

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
#

O for that probs

copper jay
gleaming dust
#

i know its a but long ago aha, but i was wanting to check out bubble knight. how come they jsut havent leveled up assail?

hushed pike
#

This looks like ass

thorn cedar
#

good thing i love ass

jovial juniper
#

Dogs

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Free cdr

ripe obsidian
hushed pike
#

if my teammates didn't blow so hard

#

I should've realized the arbite was a moron when he had shock mines instead of dog bomb

hearty wolf
#

Shock mines are insane

#

wfym

hushed pike
#

Dogbomb is more insane

hearty wolf
#

RIP for Mr Crusthog

#

@ripe obsidian As for EO

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It's broken for 2 reasons that people have not mentioned

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it's the movement speed

#

and the fact it's auto tagging prio targets to you

#

that info is insanely helpful

#

it can prevent a lot of bullshit

#

you can see the silent burster through the door etcetc

marble crater
#

I knew why I saved EO for my last penance, I read through the keystones and EO sounded like the most fun by far

hearty wolf
#

It sounds a lot like left tree vet but plays more like DD

#

I also

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really like the colour the enemies are outlined in#

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it's so tasty looking

thorn cedar
#

idk still prefer blue skittles

ocean cipher
#

what build on inferno force staff?

#

like blessings/perks

jovial juniper
#

Worse smite

marble crater
ripe obsidian
ocean cipher
#

also whats the build on dueling sword?

hearty wolf
#

Well that's what's the most fun about it to me

ocean cipher
#

and best on dueling sword is Mk IV?

jovial juniper
#

Mk2

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But you can disregard whatever makes DS2 better

#

So go mk4

marble crater
#

I use mine only for mutants, maulers and crushers, so I use maniac, carapace, uncanny and thrust, but you can also use riposte, precog

jovial juniper
marble crater
#

DS2 has 100000% more cleave, you can hit two targets instead of one

jovial juniper
strong gulch
#

99% of peoplr say DS4 is best. Also, what are you using it for. If it's just for single target then no question it is DS4.

jovial juniper
#

99% of people are wrong

marble crater
#

Incompetent mind

strong gulch
#

if you are using it as an allrounder or main weapon then I say it's DS2

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BUT you don't only take a DS, so DS4

marble crater
#

If you use it as an allrounder or main weapon I would use the Dueling Sword Mark FGS

hearty wolf
#

@strong gulch brittleness applied after a dot still affects the DoT since it's on the target, right?

Does that work the same for rending?

long wharf
#

I can't wait for arbites to get dueling sword

jovial juniper
#

They already have it

jovial juniper
#

Natty Dueling Sword

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Tactical shit

strong gulch
#

They don't snapshot.

jovial juniper
#

FS gives a weapon that needs to shit crits to work to a class that doesn't shit crits

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πŸ’€

hearty wolf
#

Ah, interesting

strong gulch
#

That also means that the buffs can drop.

long wharf
#

I expect FartShack to drop the bleed stacks on hit from the dog to 4

hearty wolf
#

I feel like there's something in this game that snapshots

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some kind of ult ability or something

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and it's really unfun

long wharf
#

nothing in this game snapshots as far as I can recall

hearty wolf
#

There's something

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I know it

#

I had a discussion about it 2 years ago

strong gulch
#

IDk

hearty wolf
#

let's see if I can find it

strong gulch
#

I know some buffs have a long active window before they decay.

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and can be refreshed

marble crater
hearty wolf
#

The only thing that I can find is this so far

strong gulch
#

Hmm, it appears that there at least were some things that snapshot. Things for like tknife and assail.

#

but those, at least some have been patched

hearty wolf
long wharf
#

what does assail snapshot?

marble crater
#

(I don't even know what snapshot means in this context)

strong gulch
gleaming dust
#

what are the vox lfgs? are they just nromal lfgs?

thorn cedar
strong gulch
# hearty wolf

I don't think that's a snapshot. If you swap to weapon that doesn't have the + damage modifier or blazeaway stacks drop, those buffs aren't kept.

patent mango
#

i've unlocked HAIR with the traders hat

#

very powerful

strong gulch
patent mango
#

i am now the strongest psyker in the imperium

marble crater
#

Sounds complicated, I will not deal with it loregryn

hearty wolf
patent mango
#

which one

gleaming dust
marble crater
#

that time I turned into the strongest psyker and lost a heresy mission

hearty wolf
patent mango
#

heresy missions are scary though

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they spawn like 9 poxwalkers

marble crater
hearty wolf
#

Was it that hard :o

steep frost
#

What’s the best melee for a bad psyker?

marble crater
#

Yes, why is Europe shortened to E instead of... EU?

hearty wolf
marble crater
hearty wolf
#

Whoever made the channels has adhd

gleaming dust
#

ah yes my favourite region

marble crater
#

smh

gleaming dust
#

lexicanum

#

lmao

patent mango
marble crater
#

Illisi if you need horde clear, Dueling sword if you need single target damage

hearty wolf
marble crater
#

Force Greatsword if you want something that can do both

patent mango
#

force greatsword if you like hype moments and aura

#

literally

hearty wolf
#

Warudo is pure aura so don't compete tho

marble crater
patent mango
marble crater
gleaming dust
#

is there like a lower level lfg? cause veryone seems to wanna do havoc. Last time i played when i first got the game in march i played that and thats why i dropped it lmao

patent mango
#

i met brunt down there

#

most people just do quickplay lol

marble crater
#

99% of me playing is quickplay

hearty wolf
#

It's me

#

I'm the havoc fiend

gleaming dust
#

it was mainly to talk to peeps haha. get bored straight

hearty wolf
#

But where the FUCK is Gloriana

#

map diversity 0

#

Where is Rolling Steel

marble crater
pastel turtle
#

what's the dump on ds4 if you aren't dumping mobility. c.targets or c.damage?

patent mango
#

rolling steel wasnt even in campaign LOL

hearty wolf
#

what 😭

#

I seem to remember Rolling Steel was in havoc at some point

#

was I high or

#

did that actually happen

velvet sand
#

what is rolling steel again

patent mango
#

i dont think it was ever in havoc?

hearty wolf
#

I remember clearing it

velvet sand
#

is it the moebian steel mission

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with the snow

patent mango
#

woulda been cool tho

pastel turtle
velvet sand
#

og

hearty wolf
#

I swear for the longest time it wasn't and then there was some kind of event

#

and like

hearty wolf
#

shroudfield vet/zealot were really good

#

you had to go FAST af tho

marble crater
#

Shroudfield zealot is never good, stop lying

pastel turtle
hearty wolf
marble crater
marble crater
pastel turtle
#

I tried a max mobility DS and the extra speed felt noticeable but I could be mindfucking myself

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as psykers are wont to do

marble crater
#

Dump cleave

hearty wolf
#

6 rooms ahead of them

pastel turtle
#

yeah idk why I thought cleave targets was a stat too

hearty wolf
#

and then getting kicked by a PO into a DH

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and promptly died

#

I'm probably good enough now that I wouldn't have died to that scenario

#

Learned how to tank DHs due to having so many summoned on me lul

marble crater
steep frost
marble crater
#

Illisi then, as you need something to deal with hordes

patent mango
#

tfw warp surgery is tomorrow

marble crater
gray juniper
hearty wolf
patent mango
#

the warp

pastel turtle
#

the more I play the more I'm convinced greatsword viii is my favorite weapon for psyker

#

kinda does it all

long wharf
#

it's the psyker's slapchop

shadow hedge
#

does the force greatsword special attack count as a warp attack for the purpose of soulstealer?

long wharf
#

yes

ripe obsidian
#

I am home. Huzzah.

#

Time to lose in Havoc.

strong gulch
#

I will lose with you

ripe obsidian
#

Mostly accurate. Except I wear a t-shirt and shorts to work

#

Business attire is gross

strong gulch
#

business onesie

ripe obsidian
#

Or that cartoon character simply did not wear pants to work

strong gulch
#

true!

#

oh I need to start steam

#

@ripe obsidian No rush, but am ready

ripe obsidian
#

Okeydokey. I will be on in a moment

#

Be there anyone else?

strong gulch
#

No clue. @patent mango H40?

patent mango
#

ok

strong gulch
#

1 more for H40?

ripe obsidian
#

This is my map

proper osprey
strong gulch
patent mango
#

warhammer

#

my game crashed

strong gulch
patent mango
#

its ok

#

im on the uhh

#

4th loading screen rn

#

nearly there

tulip kettle
#

wanted a second one so i can have both MKs, got this second roll

ocean cipher
#

tryna put together a wildfire/support psyker (smite, dome, trauma staff for hordeclear & fire + stagger)
what melees are a good optuon for tht?

analog agate
#

Dsiv, deimos, obscurus

radiant iris
#

How do I get the huge amount of DoTs to spread? Just meleeing? I never really use the staves that much is that the problem?

#

Or is this build too hard for a noob to drive haha

flat nexus
analog agate
tulip kettle
#

it wants you to spam EP BB into unarmoured elites then spam LMB on purge staff when stuff gets close

#

its a meme build and not a good one

#

if you want a melee psyker build bubble knight is the way to go

radiant iris
#

Ah thank you guys… I’ve just joined the discord I will look through all the pins!

tulip kettle
analog agate
#

And for melee you can use a variety of swords. Force great sword is most popular atm

radiant iris
#

Awesome I’ll add these to my loadouts

#

Definitly want to get better at using the staffs, seen a couple dudes just burn through everything it’s insane

#

I have to break my keeping low peril disease to do more dmg though

static sonnet
#

Wish I had it

gray juniper
#

This game is full of hocus pocus

steep frost
#

does kinetic flayer count towards brain burst penances?

radiant iris
#

The random brain pops when they worked were awesome though

proper osprey
#

You may like the other builds in the pins

gray juniper
#

Last time I played I field tested this. Flak perk on great sword. Steam guide says mauler has a carapace head and flak body, rager has flak on head and carapace body

Rager dies in direct head stab 1-2 shots
Mauler dies in head stab 2-3 shots
Mauler body test 3-5…

long wharf
#

scab rager is flak body, carapace head, I thought

analog agate
wet charm
#

squeak (how much resistance does 3x gunner resistance on curios give?)

gray juniper
#

Yea I guess they wanted to add some difficulty to tangling with the wild swinging enemy type so they force you to go for the head

#

Either way, intentionally or not, going for the head on both enemy types gives better results if you have the flak perk apparently

jovial juniper
#

So around

gray juniper
#

@marble crater good news on the command post front. Gamesir came in today

jovial juniper
#

49%

gray juniper
#

So a single gunner perk curio is a big difference vs not right?

wet charm
#

squeak (thank you fren) ❀️

gray juniper
#

Squeak (hello rat fren)

wet charm
#

squeak (hello!) ;D

gray juniper
#

Don’t be alarmed seeing a cat!

wet charm
gray juniper
#

This cat follows the philosophy of catshido. Never fear

velvet crescent
#

what's the loops on obscurus?

#

i heard obscurus was best for single target and im wondering what to do here

jovial juniper
#

Heavy Light Light

strong gulch
#

Since the update yesterday, I haven't been able to consistently cast my ability.

velvet crescent
gray juniper
strong gulch
#

Because yeah

gray juniper
#

Yes

strong gulch
#

Thought that was just my weak hands

velvet crescent
#

obscurus fs... heavy->light over and over again for hordes?

gray juniper
#

No that’s why I shared that video when someone asked yesterday. It’ll get you in a dead situation depending what’s going on

jovial juniper
#

So

#

Light heavy light

velvet crescent
#

aye aye

strong gulch
jovial juniper
#

Into a heavy light loop

velvet crescent
#

what's finesse do btw

#

oh gamelantern has it

potent echo
#

Weak spot / crit damage usually

thorny trail
#

if i activate the power great sword warp slice thing, does that actaully count as a warp attack ?

tulip kettle
#

horde clear on MK 9 FGS is light light cancel loop, is it the same for MK 6 or theres a better option?

potent echo
#

But you generally use it before things get bad because it's easier to hit more stuff and it's easy to get staggered out of it

thorny trail
#

Started trying kinetic deflection and now i really wanna do a psyker tank/bruiser deal

young cliff
#

question: is precognition worth using on FGS?

velvet crescent
#

warp res is the dump on force sword yeah

#

i found one 60 warp res and one 60 mob

strong gulch
rigid iris
#

what does "once per attack" mean

strong gulch
#

Once perk attack means only once per attack and won't give you more if your hit more than one enemy.

ripe obsidian
#

Dog is better at the game than I am

strong gulch
#

@patent mango You're still in VC.

rigid iris
strong gulch
#

I can feel my brain slowing down in a mental fatigue brain fog kind of way. So I should probably not play more tbh.

ripe obsidian
#

Did they buff Pogryn? Every one of its attacks went through my block

strong gulch
ripe obsidian
strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

I kept taking damage in places I didn't think I should. It was weird

strong gulch
jovial juniper
#

No

#

They are trying to keep you away from your true potential

#

(they just don't like the 2 seconds window)

patent mango
ripe obsidian
#

I think I need to turn down my graphics. All the particle effects (and something else this patch?) are tanking my framerate from like 100 to 50

velvet crescent
#

update untouchable penance got

#

thank you bubble shield

strong gulch
tulip kettle
rigid iris
#

okay so I'm not just crazy

tulip kettle
#

shooters just blatantly shooting through 2 surfaces of the bubble

strong gulch
rigid iris
#

I was chalking up a tone of this to raw skill issue

strong gulch
#

@nocturne dust Did bubble always despawn if the player who cast it goes down? I can't remember.

rigid iris
#

naw just shit hitting me when I know they shouldn't have

#

when I fuck up I know I fucked up

thorny trail
#

Can you get tanky with psyker

ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
#

melee twin is just bullshit for that tbh

ripe obsidian
young cliff
strong gulch
thorny trail
#

i'm guessing these are the two main parts of doing that?

tulip kettle
#

but when using FGS, often 2 swings is all you need

#

both very good choices yes

thorny trail
#

Alright

rigid iris
#

you can make a dodge tank sort of

tulip kettle
#

kinetic deflection is, i wouldnt say mandatory, but highly advised if not running stam curios

strong gulch
#

We have prevent damage more so that good TDR and such.

tulip kettle
#

if you run a DS with agile and kinetic deflection and a stam curio with block efficiency

#

i think you would be functionally unkillable beyond making a big mistake

thorny trail
#

I like the idea of turning it into some kinda weird mage bruiser. especially with just how cool the blaze gs is

ocean cipher
#

whats the easiest way to complete Cliffhanger

strong gulch
#

There's also deflector that let's block bullets in the directio that you're facing.

ocean cipher
#

ive been tryna get it since release

strong gulch
tulip kettle
#

the one mission with the control room and the bridges leading to it at the end is how i did it, but theres lots of maps it works

rigid iris
#

^

strong gulch
tulip kettle
#

then literally just push with a force sword or shriek when enemies clumped on bridge

thorny trail
#

thank you for the info. ima try some stuff using these and see if it works better than what i was doing. I basically just grabbed those two perks in the pic and then a bunch of toughnes regen stuff, but then i realized that was dumb since i opted for health curious LOL

ocean cipher
#

wait can i do it with smite

#

cant i just tap smite for the push

tulip kettle
#

yes

tight saddle
#

Is there a list or resource of viable and effective high Havoc builds?

tulip kettle
#

you dont need a list

#

there is one

strong gulch
tulip kettle
#

unless playing with a coordinated team of friends

nocturne dust
strong gulch
#

or has been today

nocturne dust
#

To be clear, go down or die?

strong gulch
#

not die

nocturne dust
#

It didn't despawn before, no

ocean cipher
#

is beeg force sword any good

#

using this on a wildfire/trauma build

#

or should i just run dueling for specialists

strong gulch
ocean cipher
#

you just gotta show me where

tight saddle
#

Okay then what about a list for Auric Maelstrom builds for different play style options?

tulip kettle
strong gulch
tulip kettle
#

this is psyker havoc build

#

minor variations for personal preference exist

#

for other builds check the pins

strong gulch
ocean cipher
#

aighty

#

im Sable

ocean cipher
#

@strong gulch what do i need to bring

#

just venting shriek?

strong gulch
#

The out perimiter of VB has a lot of stagger and tosses enemies

ocean cipher
#

i got smite and shriek

#

and FGS

strong gulch
#

YOu have to make things dance with smite then you can toss them.

#

YOu can control the direction too

ocean cipher
#

issue: i dont think carni is available rn

strong gulch
#

Right?

#

That's was saying. Game launturn site lied

ocean cipher
#

the 2nd carnival mission is available

strong gulch
#

hold on need to fix audio then we wil figure it out

ocean cipher
#

first one isnt

strong gulch
ocean cipher
#

where is the spot?

#

oh i saw the tip

#

its on dark communion

#

ill prolly be able to get it on my own but imma go practice smite throws

#

ty tho

strong gulch
#

they share the same section

strong gulch
#

Another time or ask Ainz or Clad.

#

Sorry again.

ripe obsidian
#

Go rest.

minor wedge
#

So my chat suddenly isnt working

#

in game i mean

ripe obsidian
#

It happens

ocean cipher
#

are horde spawns always the same?

#

im tryna get the dark communion cliffhanger and its just not spawning the hore

#

horde

strong gulch
ocean cipher
#

is there a way to get rid of the bots in private lobby

ripe obsidian
faint citrus
#

What goes on flame staff and dump stat for it please πŸ™‚ pleeeeeease

ornate hamlet
#

auric mael

analog agate
tulip kettle
#

then blaze away and warp nexus

#

and dump is usually warp res or quell speed

#

i use a 70-70 cos im edgy like that

ornate hamlet
#

gotta dump that warp resist

tulip kettle
#

ive not got the soft delicate touch to edge so well

#

quite ham fisted

#

heavy handed

ornate hamlet
#

me when i edge too hard

tulip kettle
#

although since getting warp unbound tracker i have not yet exploded due to throwing an assail after the buff ends

#

so that is nice

ornate hamlet
#

good thing they fixed that talent

#

there were a lot of times i think id be safe just to blow up

tulip kettle
#

yeah it not activating at all was kind of lame

ocean cipher
#

how do i not get melted in 5 seconds as psyker

tulip kettle
#

bring bouble shield

ocean cipher
#

thats a big issue i have with em is just ca nnot deal with ranged enemies

tulip kettle
#

get better at melee combat

#

play the close game

#

all the maps have routes through them that avoid long sight lines

#

the gunner ai makes them relocate to get an angle on you

#

obviously theres a few rooms that just suck

#

but thats why we bring safety blank- i mean bubble

ornate hamlet
#

i just crutch on ee

#

ranged enemies cant touch me

ocean cipher
#

wdym what psyker

#

ee?

ornate hamlet
#

what kind of psyker build

tulip kettle
#

empathic evasion

#

you count as dodging vs ranged for 1 sec on crits

ocean cipher
#

smite/wildfire

tulip kettle
#

it works okay but theres times when you dont crit for more than a secxond or 2 and just die

#

ah

ornate hamlet
#

if ur using smite u might not be moving around enough

#

makes u kinda vulnerable to gunners

ocean cipher
#

actually question

tulip kettle
#

the real answer is bring bubble

ornate hamlet
#

need a big fat ogryn to stand in front prolly

ocean cipher
#

whats the best i can do for support psyker

tulip kettle
#

and your ranged tool to deal with shooters

ocean cipher
#

i assume dome + fire + quickening

ornate hamlet
#

prolly bubble smite lol