psyker-class

[cunning plinth]

serious tier list content

but, last time i checked, thats... good

if you run left side

[tulip kettle]

for newer psykers its not good

[cunning plinth]

that is true

[tulip kettle]

imagine you are a new player

his content makes sense

otherwise nah

[cunning plinth]

yes totally, but he wasnt making a new player tierlist

meta wise

[tulip kettle]

i think all his content is aimed at newer players

[cunning plinth]

and even if the lighting staff was bad, THAT wouldnt be the reason

[tulip kettle]

i mean

[cunning plinth]

in that case, ok fair

[tulip kettle]

when i very first started this game i also didnt like surge staff because of the amount of peril

just kept blowing myself up because hadnt learnt to edge

teen years are wild eh

[bitter zodiac]

i learned edging before i started playing and i was able to carry it over

[summer prairie]

EK without shriek isn't too hot

[cunning plinth]

yeah, but with practice you want to be at 96 peril forever somehow simultaniously dumping as much peril as possible and regenerating that amount of peril as well

[tulip kettle]

i play it with SG with warp unbound and its funny

[cunning plinth]

oh yeah shriek is the only reason that thing works

but its very good "with" shriek

i mean SG also dumps peril now yay

[random thunder]

WHY

[cunning plinth]

if im playing surge i just kinda want the burn cleave?

[tulip kettle]

you mean like, shriek to clear hordes?

[worldly plume]

So.. Is a duelling sword with cleave damage stat at 60 and all other stats at 80 good?

[proper osprey]

Sorry was me

[tulip kettle]

yes faded its what i run

[random thunder]

are you shitting me

[tulip kettle]

but you can also run mob 60 80 cleave

[cunning plinth]

i mean i can basically pop it on CD its propably as much damage as the staff itself, if not more

[random thunder]

we all disconnected so we can never play havoc again gg

[proper osprey]

Yes that’s good

[summer prairie]

cancel assignment

[tulip kettle]

yes nikolai but if i have assail and EK lmb spam i dont really need dat

[random thunder]

how?

[cunning plinth]

also activates kinetinc resonance or whatever the name of it was on CD

[summer prairie]

in the havoc menu, bottom right

[tulip kettle]

just play EK like gun

[cunning plinth]

true

[worldly plume]

cool cool, fine tuning my assail build.. but also, assail doesnt target daemonhosts does it?

[random thunder]

okay

[strong gulch]

Reginald also recently said EK is "so bad".

[tulip kettle]

assail will target a dh if you target it onto it

[proper osprey]

Not unless you’re aiming at it

[cunning plinth]

it only does it when you are a bad person

and deserve to loose

it doesnt happen to the pure of heart

[worldly plume]

maybe im targeting by accident during hordes because i swear at least one assail hits a host and then my team is upset with me 😦

[cunning plinth]

ek?

[tulip kettle]

ek is surge staff

[cunning plinth]

ah

[ripe obsidian]

Just change characters. Usually fixes it for me

[strong gulch]

EK does need it's whole build and isn't as good in havocs, but is strong.

[strong gulch]

Yeah is surge staff. FS moment. Just renaming things.

[cunning plinth]

yeah its still pretty good

[marble crater]

It's true, please buff

[cunning plinth]

it could be "better" sure

[strong gulch]

Abbreviations in the pins too

[cunning plinth]

but with the build (which is fun)

[strong gulch]

Hi

[marble crater]

Buff blaze trauma

[marble crater]

Hi

[cunning plinth]

buff purg staff

[tulip kettle]

blaze trauma

[shut kite]

Dont u need to qq-cancel for EK to be viable though?

[cunning plinth]

no specific reason

[tulip kettle]

legit DOES need a buff

[proper osprey]

You just gotta solo it

[fierce crest]

yeah that floored me when i heard it

[proper osprey]

I believe in you

[tulip kettle]

you lose so much by not being able to take warp flurry

[strong gulch]

8 SB stacks when?

[marble crater]

No, I play without that and successfully win malice missions

[strong gulch]

EK is so easy to farm damage too.

[ripe obsidian]

QQ canceling is too sweaty for my old bones

[shut kite]

Is warp-flurry better than nexus if you are going full on qq-cancel after each blast on trauma?

[ripe obsidian]

Just RMB

[strong gulch]

On oops all gunners maps, EK is nice for that too.

[tulip kettle]

you need nexus for blazing trauma

[proper osprey]

If you enjoy melee gameplay on him here’s melee psyker https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/terrible-melee-psyker-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[marble crater]

I don't even have a Q button on my controller to begin with

[tulip kettle]

if youre not getting to around 50% crit rate youre not going to have a good time

[shut kite]

What if you run SG with it though?

[fierce crest]

wheres the fyrestone™ gunker builds

[tulip kettle]

idk i havent tried tbh

[proper osprey]

I’m not gonna lie I hate gunker

[proper osprey]

Sg with trauma is pretty good

[gray juniper]

Yea can you translate this q cancel thing?

[tulip kettle]

he means swapping weapons twice

[proper osprey]

It’s better than venting and allows for more blasts

[summer prairie]

but yeah Mister E put EK behind voidstrike, in the second lowest trier

[marble crater]

So YY cancel for Xbox

[shut kite]

If you switch weapons really fast with q you animation cancel

[proper osprey]

I don’t listen to YouTubers when everything is viable

Well except chainsword

[summer prairie]

I don't watch any youtubers

[proper osprey]

Beast mode

[summer prairie]

ok I lied, any gaming youtubers

[proper osprey]

Hmmm new idea

[mint matrix]

chain sword is viable in aurics :>

[gray juniper]

That must be a good latency/non-cloud thing. Weapon swapping is a dangerous thing for the game response on my end

[hearty wolf]

Is it havok time

[proper osprey]

Everything is viable in aurics even no talents

[strong gulch]

am awake

need coffee

[shut kite]

Yea it can be dangerous with high ms, but i have decent internet

[proper osprey]

I should do melee psyker with chain sword

[shut kite]

Do one with Shock Maul

[proper osprey]

Already did

[shut kite]

ooohhh where

[proper osprey]

Shock mauls recent buff made it good

[proper osprey]

In my mind

[hearty wolf]

anyone1 else for

[gray juniper]

lol yes

[hearty wolf]

for havoc

[proper osprey]

Maybe I should record my gameplay guh

[tulip kettle]

are you on US servers?

[gray juniper]

It’s too inconsistent in my gaming to use. Too much risk for payoff

[marble crater]

Yeah, there is a reason I'm not doing it. Taking my finger off the stick? Hell no

[proper osprey]

I got dis tho https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1389426055047020564/tacaxefunny.mp4?ex=686d2519&is=686bd399&hm=494682a64126a67d01da4c7d06402262f00067ff2babcc322d0fe2167ec17db5&

[gray juniper]

Idk I’ll try some new things with the new controller on button mapping

[limber tapir]

Do you guys run inferno staff thats unmaxed to keep warp res low or js max it out anyways?

[proper osprey]

Ignore the mutant at the end pls

[gray juniper]

But the problem with weapon swapping at pivotal moments is sometimes I mashed too fast the characters hand go away for a moment and I can’t even block

[tulip kettle]

i have maxed one because it doesnt matter

[limber tapir]

Doesnt impact gameplay that much?

[shut kite]

I run a low rolled force sword instead, its more consistent

[tulip kettle]

exactly

and the dps difference between being at say 60 - 80 peril is negligible

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf @ripe obsidian we gaming?

[tulip kettle]

but exploding means your dps goes to 0

[limber tapir]

Wait how does warp nexus scale again?

[gray juniper]

Did you post the wrong video?

[tulip kettle]

after 50% peril you get the max bonus

[limber tapir]

I see

[hearty wolf]

he's working apparently

[random thunder]

ive been wondering too

[proper osprey]

Nuar is like the only vid I have of my gameplay

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042863898694537316

[gray juniper]

Erm. Where’s the mutant?

[tulip kettle]

i would join you guys but im not much of a talker

[proper osprey]

At the end

[gray juniper]

Oh the last 1.5 seconds lol. I quit the video the first time. Looks like you stopped to end the recording and got caught lacking

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/daredevil-daredevil-dog-tough-dog-red-mask-dog-gif-23418245

How he felt saying dat

[tulip kettle]

the opposite lol

[proper osprey]

[strong gulch]

You don't have to talk. YOu can witness how mid at the game I am.

[tulip kettle]

just kind of interested to see sin and potato play

[strong gulch]

Bad

Sin good

[limber tapir]

So i was watching tanner's guide on the inferno staff, the vid mentioned that starting a charge before 100 peril doesnt blow you up, so you can js fire a large cast at max peril, tap quell once and start another cast.
The keeping warp res low by not maxxing the staff is to get to high peril faster since "peril already builds slow enough".
Thats what i got from the guide and was why i asked my question above.

[ripe obsidian]

I am at work still

[ripe obsidian]

They carry me daily

[strong gulch]

sin carry

W finger strong

[ripe obsidian]

I am a frog in a suit. I don't even have thumbs

[strong gulch]

I always thing of frog and toad are friends when I see your picture.

[fierce crest]

[ripe obsidian]

Frog and Toad is great

[plucky flax]

855k bleed it's normal.

[marble crater]

I have a silly PC question
I set up my new(er) PC and installed a clean windows edition, now what will happen if I connect my old hard drive with the old windows edition for more storage?

[plucky flax]

Goodbye dawg

[summer prairie]

it still boots based on your bios boot priority settings, so most likely to the newer installation

[plucky flax]

You can choose which drive to boot from.

[summer prairie]

purg similar damage so seems balanced now

[marble crater]

So no problem and then I can just yeet the old windows from the old drive

Thank you

[ripe obsidian]

Who needs an Arbites? Just bring the dog

[ripe obsidian]

Boot from old HDD, get old OS. Boot from newer drive, get new OS.

[marble crater]

Boot from new drive can access old drive data without issues?

[plucky flax]

RIP dogless gaming.

The dog is too op.

[ripe obsidian]

Unless you encrypted it

[marble crater]

I did not, I hope

[ripe obsidian]

You might need to initialize it in disk manager/diskpart, but don't worry about that unless necessary

[summer prairie]

back to psyker until they fix dog

[ripe obsidian]

How will they fix the doggo, I wonder? Bleed only on pounced target? 2 stacks of bleed instead of 8?

[plucky flax]

Remove bleed.

[bitter zodiac]

remove bleed but let other classes pet the dog as a consolation

[summer prairie]

the first change would be to only apply stacks when it lands and make it so the damage isn't affected by your buffs (this needs to apply also to voltaic)

and no applying more stacks while pounced

[plucky flax]

Make dogs have weird thoughts like this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1391846435774922763/Desktop_2025.07.07_-_19.20.25.08.mp4?ex=686d6181&is=686c1001&hm=a70826d7877c7a840aeecf0aea80479923a4a7be6a614c9afaced51344b39cf8&

[summer prairie]

I want a dog talent that allows it to always leap straight to the target

[random thunder]

wym?

[summer prairie]

sometimes the dog jumps 40 meters straight to the sniper I tagger

instead of slowly running there

[bitter zodiac]

ill just stop and watch when i see thaet

sometimes the pups are just a vibe

[random thunder]

yeah that dog got legs

i saw a jump that shocked me lemme see if i find the clip

[hearty wolf]

@summer prairie

dog bleed

is

hm

xd

[fierce crest]

25% of total is low

ive seen 50%+

youre doing too much

do less

[hearty wolf]

It still resulted in an L

like it always does

I shotgunned a trapper and it didn't give a shit

and trapped me

=L

[plucky flax]

Game is just too hard.

Get Karien to carry you.

[random thunder]

I don't have the class I don't know if this is normal
https://medal.tv/fr/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kDEL8nGnV3Rh9mP27?invite=cr-MSwzUXksOTYyMDU4NTg

[fierce crest]

https://medal.tv/fr/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kDEL8nGnV3Rh9mP27?invite=cr-MSxEUjUsOTYyMDU4NTg

ah good it doesnt embed for me either

sorry greenleaf, i tried

[fierce crest]

oh you have embed perms

im double dumb

[ripe obsidian]

What is your timezone and how late will you be up? I can probably play after work, then we can all lose together.

[plucky flax]

With this patch just stack arby and afk.

[ornate hamlet]

shotgun psyker op confirmed?

auric mael

[velvet sand]

they should give psyker a version of their bubble ultimate that you choose to place on someone or on yourself that heals someone from all the damage they took in the last 3 seconds and can also revive them if they are downed from range instantly

[vestal trench]

so...warrior priest saltz

[velvet sand]

yes

I miss him so much

[hearty wolf]

Kinda losing the will to live

probs another 2h more for me

[random thunder]

based and true

[plucky flax]

Sounds like some moba game's ult.

[fierce crest]

heros never die or something

[marble crater]

Is this for power supply to the hard drive?

Wait, I mean so the motherboard detects it

[plucky flax]

It's so the drive can read data.

[marble crater]

Good, thanks

[ripe obsidian]

I will not be home by then

[plucky flax]

The power cable for hdd is different.

It's kinda big.

Obviously you need power, and the sata (pic above).

[shut kite]

Does the mk 8 fgs have better boss damage if you just spam the stab?

[plucky flax]

Nah it comes out too slow.

[marble crater]

I did it, successfully connected my old hard drive

I can see now why people like building PCs

[sinful peak]

who

[plucky flax]

Take your time little bro.

[rigid sky]

Stab feels like more of an opener, or a reward for if you had to push something at some point anyway.

[strong gulch]

Specials are silent. Most of them.

[marble crater]

Thanks for teaching me 🧎‍♂️

I had to steal the cable from the old PC

[plucky flax]

Canibalisation is normal.

[marble crater]

I wonder if I can use the ram too, but then I could have 20 instead of 16, and that looks very wrong

[plucky flax]

20gb ram is weird I wouldn't use that.

[fierce crest]

21gb it is

[vast yew]

Using different sized RAM sticks is a great way to summon demons into your PC

[limpid lily]

Dog Arbites 2x dmg Inferno staff psyker lol, something is DEFINITELY amiss this patch

[long vessel]

What are the must take survivability talents?

[marble crater]

Leaving the RAM alone then

[vast yew]

For Pysker?

[long vessel]

Yes

[vast yew]

Quietude and Mettle are in (almost?) every build

Soulstealer is also really good if you're not going Gunker

One with the Warp and Empathic Evasion are also good, depending on build (and they both lead to Bubble)

[ripe obsidian]

Ideally you will have all identical sticks of RAM. They can behave strangely if paired with different vendors/speeds/sizes

[vast yew]

Other than that there's not a whole lot of the Psyker tree dedicated to surviving, so try not to get hit

[ripe obsidian]

You don't think an AOE 8 stacks of bleed on a 1.5 second CD is balanced?

[vast yew]

I will never understand why they made it 8

4 like Blazing Spirit would've been fine

[ripe obsidian]

Because it was bugged on release and barely worked

So they probably kept upping it based on low reported damage numbers

[vast yew]

oh so Helldivers 2 flame damage all over again

[ripe obsidian]

Now it works too well.

[vast yew]

I mean the magic number of DoT stacks is 6, because that's what kills hordes

We've known it for many moons

FatShark has to know it

Like they had to have known they were giving Arbites a massive "Delete-Horde" button

[fierce crest]

they probly tested it

and it WASNT deleting hordes

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker has 3 TDR nodes total, and two are mutually exclusive: One with the Warp, Endurance, and Sanctuary (I am maybe missing one, but I don't think so). Surviving is more about positioning than anything. But things like Deflector can help.

[fierce crest]

so they upped the stacks

[plucky flax]

They tested it in uprising.

[ripe obsidian]

It wasn't deleting hordes because it didn't work until the previous hotfix

It didn't consistently apply bleed to anything

[vast yew]

Right, but like... they know the math
So why they jumped to "oh obviously it needs more stacks" is bloody bizarre

[ripe obsidian]

Not the pounced target, not the surrounding enemies

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[ripe obsidian]

It was a weird donut where targets between 1 and 2 meters from the pounced target got bleed stacks. But the distance calculation didn't work, so it was 50/50 if anything got bleed.

Now it's 50/50 whether anything gets 8 or 16 stacks. Sometimes non-target enemies will get the full 16 stacks just by being near the target.

[limpid lily]

you sure? Cuz I was testing it a lot in Psykanium before and it was applying to all enemies in the path of its pounce. Honestly either scoreboard just wasn't really calculating it fully before or sth was just fucked this patch. Cuz I had to tweak the lua file a bit after today's patch too

and I have healthbar mod

[ripe obsidian]

I am positive. I have videos of it.

[limpid lily]

it was proccing bleeds on multiple enemies be4

[vast yew]

We're talking originally, not before the latest patch

Originally it was borked

[limpid lily]

dunno how consistent tho, I didn't exactly play dog arbites that much before.

[limpid lily]

fair enough

still, today it's completely broken now lol

[ripe obsidian]

Here's one

The bleed works on the first pounce, not the second

[limpid lily]

I mean fair enough, I only really started running dog like 2-3 days ago lol

still

it's frankly broken now

[ripe obsidian]

The hotfix that fixed it was about a week ago

[limpid lily]

yeah I didnt even touch dog then

[vast yew]

It's been broken since they fixed it, it just took people a while to notice

[ripe obsidian]

Because until today, the damage wasn't reported in scoreboard

[limpid lily]

yeah, that

[ripe obsidian]

As no one owned the bleed damage

Which was mildly problematic, as it meant on-kill effects didn't work

But now people can see that dogbleed does like 1/3 or more of your total damage

Which is goofy as hell

[limpid lily]

very goofy lmao

legit you're basically just 2 characters

players

[vast yew]

Yeah with this fixed things are about to go nuts with stuff like Canine Morale

Just constant AoE TDR and Regen

[ripe obsidian]

In regards to the survivability thing for Psyker, I stopped taking Quietude on high havoc Inferno. With the 50% toughness regen debuff + 30% less from Empyric Resolve, toughness regen from talents is reduced to 35%. So with Quietude's 5% per 10% quell, I get... like 17 toughness from a full quell.

It's just not a good use of a point

[plucky flax]

Take it for bm.

So you can spray and pray more.

[ripe obsidian]

I was actually avoiding Canine Morale prior to this, as it was so unreliable

[dull scroll]

I dropped Quietude as well for the other toughness on kill node recently

[ripe obsidian]

I was using BM. I like it. But I needed more defense, so I swapped the BM point to OwtW and Quietude to Soulstealer.

[long vessel]

What staves do you guys run with a bubble build?

[ripe obsidian]

I do less damage, but I live longer

[plucky flax]

Okay fair.

[vast yew]

Any except Electro

Electro is kinda wonky and mostly used to create lots of perils really fast so you can spam Shriek + Flames

[plucky flax]

The best pairing with bubble is smite.

[vast yew]

[plucky flax]

[ripe obsidian]

But my last 2 Havoc deaths were from Mauler overheads, so no talent would have saved me. =| I was just being a dummy.

[dull scroll]

force sword would have saved you 😏

[plucky flax]

Tru I died to an overhead recently.

As in a few hours ago.

The overhead is too op.

[vast yew]

Stealth Crushers the real OP enemies

[ripe obsidian]

I do silly things like trying to keep up with the Arbiter who is rushing ahead, then I forget they can get out when things go sideways. I cannot.

Then the mauler pack arrives

[long vessel]

Can you guys recommend some YouTube channels because the guy I watch is completely contradictory to what y’all are saying

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cillianmurphygun-cillianmurphy-jazmincoded-gif-3811002643797340103

[ripe obsidian]

What is this person saying?

[fierce crest]

even the ones i watch say dumb things sometimes

and some i dont watch say smart things sometimes

[long vessel]

Well he’s been doing mostly arbites content recently but the few psyker builds he’s put up seem off meta even for the time period when he made them. I m just looking for some basic builds that will work with staves, smite, bubble, etc.

When I say that here the usual answer is check the pins- but that’s not leading me anywhere either, maybe I’m not using the app right I donno

[ripe obsidian]

I just steal builds from @plucky flax videos and modify them to fit my preference

[vestal trench]

wait whats not working with the pins?

[ripe obsidian]

As for the pins

[vestal trench]

yeah

[plucky flax]

Oh I never replied to this. I wouldn't trust anything he say he's not a psyker main at all.

[long vessel]

Yes that’s who I’m referring to lol

[hearty wolf]

@tulip kettle

[plucky flax]

Oh lol I didn't know it was the same guy.

[vestal trench]

can you not click the highlights to go to the builds?

oh ur talkin abt yters

yea no mister e's hit and miss

[long vessel]

Both

[vestal trench]

im noticing most of the darktide youtubers are

[long vessel]

I’m on my phone that might be why?

[vestal trench]

ah

[vestal trench]

discord ui on phone is finicky in the weirdest ways

i can do it but i think theres an extra step

[plucky flax]

I only trust mr. unsanctioned.

[vestal trench]

lemme check

[fierce crest]

hank would never steer me wrong

[tulip kettle]

arb do be quite broken

[vestal trench]

ah yup: tap the message, tap "jump to message" below, then from there you should be able to tap the linked messages on the pin to go to a specific build

[ripe obsidian]

Dog did at least half your damage.

[hearty wolf]

Something like that

I specced for it

[fierce crest]

that is how dog works currently

[ripe obsidian]

Specing for dog damage is like a 2 point investment. =|

[hearty wolf]

nuh uh

I have lik

FOUR points

[ripe obsidian]

I know. It just wasn't reported in scoreboard before, so no one realized it was quite so absurd

[ripe obsidian]

Dang, big spender

[hearty wolf]

I could use those four points 😭

[fierce crest]

for less damage

[hearty wolf]

But it's MY damage

[ripe obsidian]

I am pondering builds when I should be working.

[last shore]

You guys going again this week?

Got super busy at work today

Had a big deadline

[hearty wolf]

ye

[last shore]

Aight

[strong gulch]

Thanks for games

I got dumped to character select. Definitely a sign.

[tulip kettle]

ty also ggwp

[hearty wolf]

:(

Swear to god I'm going to install Spidey sense

[tulip kettle]

the audio has been horrible

[hearty wolf]

I can't see fucking anything in the pox burster nuclear cloud and the mutant is silent

[tulip kettle]

trauma staff its very noticeable when you cant hear your own blasts and dont know if youre even casting

[hearty wolf]

Guess I just need to spam dodge 24/7

Now that I've turned off my pc

I'm ready for more

[plucky flax]

The servo skull ability.

[strong gulch]

I forgot how bad EK feels on red modifer.

[hearty wolf]

What's bad about it

[plucky flax]

You zap but they don't dance.

It's the worst against red reaper.

[hearty wolf]

I see

[strong gulch]

The you need to hit things SO many times in havoc, you're damaging mostly one target, you lose the CC, and when they are tighty clumped together it's quite hard to hit the target you want.

I think I had to hit a bulwark like 12 times.

[hearty wolf]

Need scriers gaze and DD stacks

[strong gulch]

I also took off unyielding in favor of manic for specials. But EK doesn't usually one shot those in auric without maniac (and still doesn't one shot all of them). So they also take multiple hits, but then someone else hits it so no PC.

It's not all of the time

The PC thing.

Ok, EE applied

[main widget]

What blitz abilities do you all take? I was thinking brain burst, make a good thing even better.

[strong gulch]

depends

Usually KF (part of BB) for left side tree and assail for right side tree.

Left is basically for staves and right is mostly for guns and melee.

[marble crater]

Amount of people picking BB 75%, amount of people picking BB for BB 10%

[main widget]

Thank you.

[mint matrix]

everybody wants that sweet psykinetic aura

[marble crater]

Kinetic Flayer

[ripe obsidian]

It's so good

Gotta see how good it still is with the fixed TDR, but it's actually great

[plucky flax]

Would you not just go stance and self buff rather than buff team?

[vast yew]

Question: why the dog toughness regen instead of the Stamina toughness regen

[ripe obsidian]

In this case, because I didn't pick the ranged dog targeting node

Which means the dog will be close to me more often

Potentially higher uptime on the toughness regen. But it could go either way

[vast yew]

I find the only time I'm not spending stamina is if I'm dead

[ripe obsidian]

The stamina one is good. Either one works

I think they probably have similar uptimes

[ripe obsidian]

Because teammates do silly things and need me to save them

[plucky flax]

I barely have any toughness regen with my build.

[ripe obsidian]

And the disco skull saves them faster

[plucky flax]

It's from kill or from marked kills.

[vast yew]

The one that gives 10% on stagger is insane

it + close kills and you're done

[ripe obsidian]

I take a lot of toughness regen because I am not as good at the game

And I like being invincible

[patent mango]

they took the legs

[ripe obsidian]

This is another potential build. So many choices.

[strong gulch]

The real answer is you take the skull thing for the dance party mod.

[deft stump]

It really depends on luck if you use weird amounts like I do. It works for me though.

[deft stump]

Is this why you are glaring at my too top heavy nonsense?

[sinful axle]

alright psykers

whats the funnest build to stimulate my mind

[mint matrix]

empowered smite

[sinful axle]

like im talkin flat out broken build

preferably with inferno staff and force sword

[strong gulch]

Define fun because. Inferno is def a benchmark.

Most don't find inferno fun but more chill.

[sinful axle]

i like burning enemies and watching waves fall apart

[strong gulch]

All left side builds burn enemies.

[mint matrix]

there's always the basic shriek warp siphon build

[strong gulch]

YOu could try EP BB. Inferno is the best slot for that. Makes BB a lot faster and stronger.

[sinful axle]

what is EP BB

[strong gulch]

Right. What have you been playing?

Instead of recommending things.; Figure out what you've been doing.

[sinful axle]

if youre able to hop in a vc il screenshare both my builds

[strong gulch]

EP the middle keystone. Empowered Psionics.

BB is short for brain burst which is the old name for brain rupture.

Abbreviations in the pins.

My headphones are charging.

[sinful axle]

all good im finding the build links rn

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f20062e-a746-4f64-973c-9d388e8acb57/im-bout-to-brain-bust-havoc-40 this is the first and my preffered build

[strong gulch]

After you chat awhile you can get perms to post. Red name.

[sinful axle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9daf78ac-d0f8-4052-a630-19bca491eb98/inferno-staff-psyker-current this is the 2nd i swapped out duelling sword for force sword

[strong gulch]

That's EP BB with inferno.

crit damage bad tho

also LMB nodes

It's mostly fine

[mint matrix]

crit damage only increases the direct damage of the staff... which is really low

[sinful axle]

wait so ive been using crit for no reason

[fierce crest]

Crit chance is good

Crits apply 2 burn stacks

[strong gulch]

Direct damage with blazeaway is impactfull on inferno, but the way this game does crit damage is poop.

crit chance is fine

crit damage is not

There's staff builds in the pins btw.

[plucky flax]

No hate if you neeed to survive then yeah. But I pretty much only die from shooters on arby so nothing can really help me there. That or just 1 shot by overhead.

So I'd rather some extra damage.

[sinful axle]

is there a psyker build that will literally just make me immortal

[plucky flax]

No matter what as psyker you get touched you die.

[sinful axle]

fair

[strong gulch]

The closest you get is deflector + KD and EE

[sinful axle]

its seeming like the issue is more of a i need more practice typa thing

[plucky flax]

It's not too bad in normal or auric but in havoc you feel that effect a lot more.

[vast yew]

Fire Trauma, when played well, is almost impossible to kill as you just stagger everything

but it takes practice and doesn't work on Monsters, of course

[strong gulch]

Also dodging when the enemies are stagger immune after the big knock down.

Trauma = voidblast (VB)

[sinful axle]

voidblast is another staff right?

[strong gulch]

Yes

[sinful axle]

bet bet il be on the lookout for them

[vast yew]

Voidblast kinda poopy until high item level tho

as a warning

if you're not level 30 yet

[strong gulch]

inferno = fire (old name purg)

EK = electro (old name surge)

VB = voiblast (old name trauma)

VS = voidstrike (unchanged)

Ye. Voidblast need high investment

Builds in pins for each one

it's mostly the same build with some small flavor changes

except VS, that one is different

[hearty wolf]

Void strike 🤮

[sinful axle]

so for VB i need to save up my material to get it high level before using

[zenith cave]

how does one send an SS in here?

[fierce crest]

Post more until you get a red name

[strong gulch]

Basically. YOu can use it right away, it's just poop. Staves have some the the wider stat ranges in terms of scaling and VB in particular suffer A LOT withour high stats and what not

[vestal trench]

yea most staves gotta be fully upgraded

[zenith cave]

thank you ❤️ i didn't think i missed it in the rules but i'm blind soo

[strong gulch]

if you want to post a build, https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[vestal trench]

how psyker looks at you when you realize you cant build the class to be tanky

[zenith cave]

question, is it dumb to run smite & and Ek?

[deft stump]

If you run smite as a primary, it's always dumb.

[zenith cave]

would running a gun be best? or change a different stave?

[fierce crest]

Early on any ranged weapon will be good

[zenith cave]

i'm theory crafting my own build XD probably dogwwater but it's fun

[fierce crest]

It's only when you start getting to higher havocs that you really have to care about what's strong

[strong gulch]

No, but there are other choices.

A single point into smite can be used to restabilize a situation and leave you another point to spend, BUT you should basically rarely use your blitz on an EK build. So if you're never really using your blitz, might as well take BB KF for passive damage that helps EK a lot.

Smite's use isn't always the same too.

It needs context in a build.

A lot of people hate seeing smite in a build because of how it gets misused.

People might even lobby dodge or leave a game if they see it.

[analog agate]

It is what everyone ran until they buffed kinetic flayer on brain rupture side

[zenith cave]

once i can post a SS i'll post it and ask on a rating how it fares

[analog agate]

So, still good

[strong gulch]

can make the build in the site I sent

it's an official site

so you should be able to post

[zenith cave]

oh and then post the link?

[strong gulch]

ye

have to save the build then post

the link

[zenith cave]

gotcha gotcha thanks, i didn't think a link would work if a SS couln't

[strong gulch]

If it doesn't work then it's inconsistent af

[deft stump]

Just need to yap more for permissions anyway.

[hearty wolf]

Is a wild Diabolic

[mint matrix]

wait what kinetic flayer got buffed?

[zenith cave]

ima try to make the build from memory real quick

[strong gulch]

KF now only procs on high priority targets and can be procced off DoTs.

well bleed burn and SB DoTs

[plucky flax]

Is op

[mint matrix]

oh I thought for a moment it got an icd reduction

[zenith cave]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f563236-062e-4bde-9cba-edf4d7625696/my-smite-build-cause-shocking?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

iirc i believe this is the build (i'm unavailiable to check in-game atm)

[strong gulch]

A smite EP build.

😭

[zenith cave]

the weapons are interchangable because no 500 weapons. so still finding gear

[sinful axle]

voidblast feels so weird

i just accidentally exploded my mind twice

[wraith forge]

Wierd in what sense? It's super fun tripping enemies but man it feels weak

[queen fog]

Blows up barrels with mind accidentally

(I’m a fiend for warp flurry gameplay)

[zenith cave]

blows up your pancakes with mind

[sinful axle]

im used to inferno so the high peril cost trips me out

[strong gulch]

TBH. I don't want to help bring more smite EP into the game.

If you must smite tho. #psyker-class message

[wraith forge]

Smite should be deleted. Thank you for listening.

[vestal trench]

voidblast gets strong fully built too

i used mine during leveling once, saw how unsustainable the peril gen is, and set it aside 🥲

love it now tho

even if i take way more damage with it than inferno

[zenith cave]

curious, what's wrong with smite?

[wraith forge]

Strong as in dmg or CC?

[vestal trench]

both

[wraith forge]

Anti-fun for everyone, stops hordes from accumulating and can potentially even grief teams if you just spam Smite

[vestal trench]

ive seen it outdamage inferno

[wraith forge]

What da hell, with what build?

[vestal trench]

uhhh im assuming the one in the pins except with bubble bc havoc

[strong gulch]

Smite is often misused and has big impact on other player's experiences. If it's used to perma stun enemies so people don't get to play and those enemies are CCed in a bad position or spread out or if you are slowing the team down by lagging behind just stunning stuff, people will leave the game, barrel you, not res you, etc. A culture of dodging smykers has formed because of this.

[vestal trench]

nvm i misread the stats but it still does good damage

i rechecked the score LOL

[minor wedge]

Sup Siblings.

[vestal trench]

like i did outdamage an inferno staff player yesterday with vb but i think that was a pilot diff than a built diff

[sinful axle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da62e0d-1e0f-4d9b-adca-a60b3809dd98/gandalf-melee-max-wizard

new build im trying

[strong gulch]

Because of the way Smite ticks and spreads, it's very good at getting the last bit of damage of an enemy's health. It also is an enabler for the rest of the psyker's kit and snowballs A LOT. SO the way it scales in high density is absurd.

[sinful axle]

im throwing sharp rocks at people

[strong gulch]

If you get 1st SB application you will get credit all of the SB damage. YOu could shriek at 0 peril, get 1 SB stack on stuff, and then the inferno applies the rest; all of that SB DoT damage will be yours. That also messed with blazeaway.

[fierce crest]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9f5636b3-ea9b-4896-a04e-c69bf28f51c2

[vestal trench]

o 😔 nvm then LOL

[strong gulch]

EK shriek spam with wildfire is the best at stealing inferno's damage

[vestal trench]

should i get a second vb for rending build to avoid overlapping SB with another psyker?

[strong gulch]

wildfire is sibling on sibling harrasment

[strong gulch]

If you are trying to min max with the inferno user, yes.

[vestal trench]

still think vb does good damage tho, just not inferno levels ig LOL

pain

[fierce crest]

i would take charged strike if there wasnt already an electric melee

[strong gulch]

at least there is smaul meme

[fierce crest]

they gave me access to electricity in all three slots

i have to

[deft stump]

Could just do it more more shock and awe.

You always go full niche meme if you do it.

ALWAYS.

[plucky flax]

Psykers fight each other for soulblaze ownership now arbies do the same for bleed. 😭

We live in dark time.

[vestal trench]

my intrusive thoughts rn

[outer condor]

How does that work

[deft stump]

I don't care. My damage is awful in Havocs anyway. I just drop nuncio and panic internally.

[minor wedge]

You know what would be fun ? a psyker build that somehow utilizes the overcharge mechanic

Like, you charge your peril and turn yourself into a psychic bomb.

And, dunno, like... once every minute or so you can survive one boom

[ripe obsidian]

Drop Nuncio and dance

[plucky flax]

You can be a bubble knight

[vast yew]

You don't need damage

You only need dog

Dog Bleed is currently very fair and balanced

[minor wedge]

Try pairing it with the boltpistol with the puncture blessing.

It applies MAX bleedstacks when the dog pounces

its kinda bonkers

^^

[vast yew]

they fixed that I thought

[minor wedge]

Did they ?

Aw man...

Okay, wasnt aware of that

then forget what I said

[ripe obsidian]

Dog does that normally

Puncture only affected dogbomb. It got patched out

Dogbleed just has 4 triggers, and multiple can happen at a time, causing max bleed stacks instantly

[minor wedge]

Pitty. Was fun to shred absolutely everything in the mere vicinity of dog

^^

[burnt gazelle]

to compensate they just accidentally patched in insane dog damage if you simply take razorjaw

someone posted scoreboards where it's like half their damage lol

[nocturne dust]

isn't razorjaw sourceless and therefore not counted?

or did they fix that

[mint matrix]

fixed

[nocturne dust]

[burnt gazelle]

this appears to be how they fucked up dog bleed

somewhere in the interactions it is now taking advantage of a whole bunch of buffs it shouldn't lol

[strong gulch]

Hi

[nocturne dust]

dog stonks on the rise

[nocturne dust]

hi

[burnt gazelle]

so it's doing like ... 2-3x the bleed damage it should be

[strong gulch]

Did havocs with Sin earlier and dog did over 500k bleed

[burnt gazelle]

someone posted this in another channel earlier

[nocturne dust]

I have been incapacitated for a bit Too much work, haven't had any time to play. Wish I could play too 😔

[ripe obsidian]

Hi

Dogbleed is pretty consistently doing 33% minimum of any given Arbites' total damage

[vast yew]

You can almost play Auric without ever swinging your melee weapon

[upper sun]

SO

anyone down for a night cap?

[indigo thunder]

What's the Bubble Knight build?

[upper sun]

@plucky flax

[strong gulch]

Ok

[upper sun]

@marble crater i've been waiting for this moment

[strong gulch]

Can you break up now??

[upper sun]

not yet

i unlocked the party house

i just gotta find tali and legion so they show up to the party

[strong gulch]

idk what any of that means

[upper sun]

you never played mass effect?

[strong gulch]

no

[dull scroll]

I did, these arbies are now overtaking psykers topping scoreboard with 1 talent 😒

[burnt gazelle]

lmao

[deft stump]

When you lag 300+ ping and doggo basically out damages the psyker.

[dull scroll]

yes, it's literally one mouse click, in lobby, and that's +1mil dmg

no need to do anything in game

[deft stump]

need to bulli crushers. Do not enjoy being overheaded.

[indigo thunder]

Lmao. I looked up vids on YT and there is an AgentChaos channel with several Bubble Knight gameplay vids. Gotta be the same person?

[deft stump]

It is, even if he'll gaslight you into thinking it's not. Trust me.

[fierce crest]

we are all agentchaos

[deft stump]

Psyker mains loves gaslighting blunts and newbies.

[ripe obsidian]

Blood for the Blood Dog.

[fierce crest]

Blood for the Blood goD.

[fierce crest]

you need this one too

[ripe obsidian]

Gotta test if that applies to the bleed

It didn't before today.

But the BtL dog buff didn't either

[upper sun]

no its a copycat

[strong gulch]

meme build fun

[fierce crest]

yes

when they made dog bleed count for dog

[ripe obsidian]

That's dumb as fuck

[upper sun]

nothing cap worthy happened all game

[fierce crest]

then it counts for dog buffs

[ripe obsidian]

Dog is better than 90% of H40 randoms

[strong gulch]

I netted while jumping down then fire

but arby stuff saved me

[ripe obsidian]

I had an Ogryn yesterday that did 300k damage in a 40 minute H40 game. Took like 2500 damage, too

[fierce crest]

deserved

[upper sun]

yeaaaaaa

that one was my fault

pretty sure the trapper aggroed on me

[strong gulch]

OH I saved you

[upper sun]

no i was behind the gate already

i had no way of dodging it or killing it so i peaced out :o7

[strong gulch]

with mettle VB back

i have meme build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f5652fe-0b2b-4f91-b3e9-e5611994a114/mettle-is-back-vb-go-brrrr-but-forget-to-activate-sg

[marble crater]

[indigo thunder]

Is warp res still the dump stat for purgatus?

[marble crater]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

wtf. The dog does so much damage now

1500 damage pounce, not counting bleed or shock

[marble crater]

Bugged

[ripe obsidian]

It kills an Auric crusher in 2 pounces

[marble crater]

Very cool and balanced, get your titles now everyone

[strong gulch]

yeah bleed dog is doing half of people's damage

like someone doing 2 mil in havoc and dog is half of it

[marble crater]

Well trained dog

[upper sun]

dog maxxing bros.... ww@?

[upper sun]

post build

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

also im gonna be real

i dont feel any difference between any of the keystones for arby

i pick left because it gives me twbs(kinda)

[marble crater]

I pick left because it sounds the most fun

[marble crater]

and wall hacks

[upper sun]

left has wall hacks?

[marble crater]

This is stupid

[marble crater]

It can, if it marks enemies behind walls

[upper sun]

OH

NO

I MEANT RIGHT

I PICK RIGHT

😭

[marble crater]

[ripe obsidian]

This is my build atm

And one more, for good measure

[deft stump]

Long range wallhacks.

You can see reapers 2 rooms away even at times.

[strong gulch]

Dog jump on wall but aoe still gonna aoe so the things bleed on the other side of the wall.

[ripe obsidian]

Bleed procs in 1.25 to 2m when:

• The pounce starts
• Enemy is near the pounce trajectory
• Pounce lands
• Enemy is pinned (only that enemy, though)

So 3 AoE bleeds, and one single-target

And any of them can hit an enemy more than once.

And now the left keystone buffs dog bleed, so it's 250% total bleed damage.

Plus whatever other damage buffs

[strong gulch]

Get your dog bleed in while you can.

[marble crater]

inb4 Arbites gets disabled until it's fixed

[patent mango]

havoc hype and aura moments

funny ragdoll at the end

[marble crater]

Close one

[fierce crest]

sleep time

[deft stump]

That might get them into trouble though without compensation.

[fierce crest]

arbi only queues

quarantine the stinkies

[strong gulch]

People finally stopped complaining about smite EP buffing EK. I wonder how long people with cry about this bleed stuff on a paid class.

It's gonna get adjusted at some point.

[deft stump]

Ppl who paid don't want nerfs.

People without scream for nerfs.

it's a classic.

[fierce crest]

wait ep still buffs ek?

[strong gulch]

no

[fierce crest]

oh whew

i though i hallucinated another patch note

[strong gulch]

It hasn't for a long time, but people still cried about it after the nerf.

"nerf"

[fierce crest]

eh bug fixes can be nerfs

i think thats fair to call

[strong gulch]

patch notes do gaslight us tho

[marble crater]

The compensation is that they will also disable smite

[kindred fog]

I’m trying to make my Electrokinetic Force Staff better at killing specialist/elite enemies, any perks/blessings that can be recommended?

[fierce crest]

smite costs 10x peril, can only be cast at 0 peril

[marble crater]

Flak, maniac, nexus, flurry

[deft stump]

True. But some people are used to a certain power level and don't want it lower... Then current vet mains just staring.

[deft stump]

I can play dodge based classes again?

[fierce crest]

true, we need to nerf arbi fast

so ppl dont get too used to it

[strong gulch]

good point

[marble crater]

Your ping is not disabled

[upper trout]

the dump stats for weapons in the 2 pins and in the big spreadsheet are all different. how should i proceed?
here #psyker-class message
here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ftJZuivw8sX-W1kXbJKl8W8aX7m9dFZYQ07jEGCymWs/edit?usp=sharing
and here https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[deft stump]

Look, 50% chance to dodge is still better than 0%.

[kindred fog]

I feel like the Force Staffs have been nerfed recently- feels like Voidstrike does a lot less damage lately

[fierce crest]

strike has been the lowbie on the totem pole for a while

[marble crater]

Most people don't agree with the dump stats in the psyker guide

[fierce crest]

also like 2/3 of the weapons say outdated

[strong gulch]

Do not dump blast radius on voidBLAST. Someone must have made a mistake. Misread the staff name or something.

[upper trout]

hmm i see. should i follow the pin or the spreadsheet then?

[upper trout]

the reason given in the sheet is "Blast radius is very similar 60% to 80%"

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

It's not

[deft stump]

Ppl are already mad dog bomb puncture got fixed, lul.

[kindred fog]

I’ve been stuck on Smite with Empowered Psionics, because holy hell it’s overpowered against hordes

[marble crater]

If it's for psyker weapons it's really easy. You dump warp resistance on everything except voidstrike, which dumps blast radius

[fierce crest]

electro surge and inferno rip up hordes plenty good

inferno especially

[upper trout]

hmm i see, so exactly like #psyker-class message says

[strong gulch]

Pulled from Atlas's old photos. 80 vs 53 blast radius stat on VB (voidblast) with blazings spirit. The aoe is a big difference.

[fierce crest]

its like double the area

[mint matrix]

are people forgetting area of a circle is pi * r^2

[strong gulch]

Like, the 53 blast radius photo is even more zoomed in than the 80

[upper trout]

thanks ❤️

[fierce crest]

i think fatshark is

since blast radius stat increases linearly

thus increasing area exponentially

[mint matrix]

maybe its intentional

[fierce crest]

true fs is very good at math

[strong gulch]

@upper trout I should clarify that blast radius is the correct dump for voidSTRIKE (VS) tho.

[last shore]

Lowkey looks like the mess I left in the toilet earlier today

Oh wait…

[upper trout]

🫡

[strong gulch]

Is your blaster ok?

[last shore]

My fault for eating Taco Bell.

||I’m kidding||

||or am I?||

[strong gulch]

Classic

Like every lactose intolerant person destroying ice cream, cheese, and themselves.

It's inevitable.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

Cheese is too good to avoid

[wraith forge]

I'm trying to get the Mortis Trial under 25mins Penance but I have no one to play with. Which Psyker build would give me the best chance at getting that penance? With what can I clear fastest?

[tulip kettle]

i would say play arbites

but if not, something with DD

[mint matrix]

why not play ogrynheimer

and blow up the map with grenades + rumbler

[tulip kettle]

ahhh but you see

no unlimited grenades

[mint matrix]

the 20 second grenade regen got removed as a perk?

from mortis?

[ripe obsidian]

No

It still exists

[tulip kettle]

i never played ogryn in mortis tbf

[mint matrix]

ogryn in mortis is ridiculous

ogryn in general is ridiculous but he's even better in mortis

[tulip kettle]

everything in mortis is ridiculous

i tanked 3 DH at once with arbitrator

[mint matrix]

ogryn doesnt even fight a DH

they get stagger locked from grenades

[strong gulch]

I haven't played the changed mortis yet.

[tulip kettle]

"you are now 100% damage immune during castigatos stance"

"you now get 2 additional charges for your ability"

ggwp

[strong gulch]

I want to do more EK shriek havocs tho. I feel much more free.

[tulip kettle]

loads of fun

[strong gulch]

ugh this fecking thing

I still don't understand why it exists

also why is it there

on the left side??

still so confused after all of these months

weeks??

[last shore]

Surely that’s one of the reworked nodes in the future

[strong gulch]

idk

[strong gulch]

They will give the unlucky for some treatment and just buff the speed that is already instant

more instant

[fierce crest]

#psyker-class message

[mint matrix]

I've never seen anyone take unlucky for some

[pure scaffold]

More like Peak for Some

[fierce crest]

well you see

[velvet crescent]

is psyker the best class to do the no hp damage penance with

[fierce crest]

you either have full toughness

or youre dead

[velvet crescent]

even on uprising i tend to get hit by something cuz i was dumb

[strong gulch]

like + cleave to infinite cleave

more gooder

[mint matrix]

just dont be dumb

[velvet crescent]

i once stepped in a fire puddle cuz my brain wasnt updating and i died inside

[strong gulch]

I've only ran it when my build randomizer is mean

[mint matrix]

otherwise the new arbiter is probably easiest with dog

[strong gulch]

Something with golden toughness or ridiculous amounts of toughness gen is probably best

[ripe obsidian]

Do it. I can be purgatus bubble

[strong gulch]

Sounds fun

Hmm. I might switch to crit chance perk and crit gamble harder

[ripe obsidian]

Just no red enemies pls

They scare me

[strong gulch]

yeah

I am less scared of reapers now with EE spam

but melee lol

I was by myself with a red bulwark and EK only tickling it. It was chasing me around a pillar. 😭

[plush wave]

so uhh, this looks new

[ripe obsidian]

Red enemies on their own are... playable. But red enemies plus like any other modifier is gross

[strong gulch]

Ye

[last shore]

Purple and reds

[trim garnet]

is ep rupture real

[strong gulch]

Sounds terrible.

EP what tho

[long vessel]

Hello again siblings! The struggler continues, tonight I’m doing smite bubble EP until I finish cliffhanger

[long vessel]

Aaand. Down off a ledge 30 seconds into the game

3 arbites with shields, surely they’ll protect me

[patent mango]

oh wow i forgot the combat shotguns existed

they're pretty nice

[sullen rapids]

wait smite does damage now

i mean its not inferno but its like

its not actively throwing anymore what

[strong gulch]

Been that way. That's one of the reasons other players don't like smite.

[sullen rapids]

been like that for how long? last i was really aware of the changes was back before the big crafting update; so like last spring (~15 month ago)

[gleaming dust]

i havent played psker in a while, are there any good builds thats incorperate smite and bubble sheild?

[potent echo]

Yes

It will rot your brain

And also ruins games for everyone

But you can run it!

[strong gulch]

Even back then smite was busted. People were just using it with bubble. Then it got buffed.

[potent echo]

It's in the psykanium in pins under smite EP builds

[gleaming dust]

wait how so?

[potent echo]

Nobody gets to play darktide

Is stuntide

Even the smiter doesn't get to play darktide

Very efficient

[sullen rapids]

smite user heaven is actually darktide player hell

[long vessel]

It’s dogtide ow

Now

Or lextide

[potent echo]

The tide is the tide

[long vessel]

Rock and tide

[gleaming dust]

ah i dont wanna play that then if its annoyin

[potent echo]

[gleaming dust]

how are the others? that brain burst on attack seems fun

[potent echo]

Consider bubble knight

But idk if there's like an easy build to reference here

[strong gulch]

Smite can be a very strong tool. However...

Smite is often misused and has a big impact on other player's experiences. If it's used to perma stun enemies so people don't get to play and those enemies are CCed in a bad position or spread out or if you are slowing the team down by lagging behind just stunning stuff, people will leave the game, barrel you, not res you, etc. The CC also doesn't allow "on dodge" blessings and talents to function for you or your teammates. Parry is also out.

Because of the way Smite ticks and spreads, it's very good at getting the last bit of damage of an enemy's health even if other players did most of the damage. It also is an enabler for the rest of the psyker's kit and snowballs A LOT. So the way it scales in high density with little effort is absurd.

A lot of smite users also don't learn how to dodge or manage CC immune enemies.

A culture of lobby or mission dodging smykers has formed because of this.

[ripe obsidian]

Barktide.

[strong gulch]

That being said, you can use it. Just don't spam the entire map all of the time.

[gleaming dust]

that does sound fun

[gleaming dust]

nah nah, if it comes at the risk of ruining others fun i dont wanna do that

[potent echo]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ebacfec-9eb8-4f84-b139-4e3cca58dcfb/bubble-knight-melee-havoc-40

[sullen rapids]

also, at least in the past, smite didnt really do much damage so it was often just someone turning off the enemy AI while doing very little in return, unlike something like trauma staff or ogryn shield spam where you actually killled things at a reasonable rate

[gleaming dust]

last time i was here back in march i think, i was told never to use assail. is it better now cause i love the look of it

[potent echo]

Works for any difficulty

[potent echo]

Who told you this

[gleaming dust]

i cannot remembers, if its good now then ill for sure use it

[strong gulch]

Whoever said "don't use assail" had a weird take.

It's always been good.

It's not the best for every build tho

[potent echo]

Also you don't need to take gun if you don't want to

[gleaming dust]

i never really got how it works, do i have to look where i want to go?

[potent echo]

Warudo in RB chat was saying voidblast.. which I am starting to warm up to

Because of the amount of bulwark spam recently

[potent echo]

Yes you have to look and the shards will soft lock onto stuff

What I like to do is throw assails and then reload

So you can still kill stuff while reloading

You could quell too while looking at things

If you throw and forget it won't do too well

Alternatively RMB assail will lock on right away so you don't need to babysit it anymore

Although it can still chain after hitting the locked on target

RMB is generally lower dps because of how slow you can throw it, but it's great for targeting specific enemies and building peril

[sullen rapids]

i think its also higher "sustained" damage since you can throw them at basically the rate that you regenerate them

[gleaming dust]

oh i thought RMB was like a higher damage one

[potent echo]

It's more needed if you don't take fast assail regen

[sullen rapids]

it is, but you throw them slower

[potent echo]

It's higher damage but you throw like one per second

Instead of like 3 per second

[gleaming dust]

okay, well im defo using them over the other options

[thorn cedar]

you can swap out of assail right after tossing the RMB

and then swap back

its much quicker

[rigid iris]

does this actually only go to 5% or am I missing something

oh I can't post images

unstable power

[thorn cedar]

stacks four times

[potent echo]

It's 4 stacks

So 20

Max at 80% peril

[rigid iris]

huh
if onyl that was in the description somewhere

[potent echo]

It's no warp rider that goes all the way to 100

[rigid iris]

that sounds kinda good

[potent echo]

It's decent

For FGS you can have your pick of wrath/riposte/unstable/precog

[rigid iris]

I had riposte on

[potent echo]

On havoc you need wrath

[rigid iris]

not gonna take off wrath

yeah

[potent echo]

True

It's fine either way

20% power increase is good but not game changing

Won't help you against 8 bulwarks with shotgunners mixed in staggering them so you can't open them with your FGS

Thanks farshark

[rigid iris]

what would in that situation

[potent echo]

Voidblast staff

Blast them

[gleaming dust]

hold up. im in the meat grinder rn. The warpflames can proc the mind rupture?

[potent echo]

Or shriek

Shriek kills everything

[rigid iris]

everything can proc mind rupture

you can proc mind rupture by starting your brainblast on them

it's always really confusing when that happens

[potent echo]

Even soulblazr tics can proc mind rupture

[rigid iris]

damage of burn?

[potent echo]

It just opens them up

Then you kill one or two things

[rigid iris]

oh ic

[potent echo]

PC procs

Then everything dies

[gleaming dust]

okay this might be something coool to build off then

[rigid iris]

yeah I got it on my obligatory bubbleferno build

[potent echo]

Or alternatively you open them then do the giga FGS swipe

[rigid iris]

they take extra damage during that?

[potent echo]

No

But the melee part has infinite cleave

I think..

I haven't had it get stopped by anything and i think it damages everything

I need to do some stupid testing with like 10 crushers or smth

[gleaming dust]

could you tell me what that is?

looks fun

also the schriars gaze is it called? that any good

[potent echo]

It's okay

You do more damagier

But ask a psyker you usually already have damage

Utility from shield or shriek will probably save you alot more

If you wanna flex then yea gaze

[rigid iris]

purgatus staff w/ brainburst and bubble

[gleaming dust]

which purple skill?

idrk what any of them excell in really yet

[sullen rapids]

siphon probably