psyker-class

[strong gulch]

inferno maps are silly with the barrels

like, it has to be more than double

[sturdy reef]

I think its havok

wasnt even inferno map

[strong gulch]

I know the modifier is inferno and havocs seem to have something similar to the event modifier.

I haven't paid attention tho. I'm just like, "this seems familar"

[ripe obsidian]

Havoc can have inferno

[sturdy reef]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Statement rather than a question

Hm. I just play an H40 with a Voidstrike Psyker using Blazing Spirit/Surge as well as smite.

It was also a red modifier.

[strong gulch]

were they good enough to make it that work??

[ripe obsidian]

This is probably AI generated, but it makes me want a pet as Psyker

[ripe obsidian]

Not particularly.

I also played like garbage, but that's a different issue

Got overheaded by maulers twice. =|

[strong gulch]

I am pretty sure one of my cats has brain powers.

[spice veldt]

ground fire in this game does spread in an area like a real fluid and isn't just "apply fire in a circle" so that can catch one offguard extremely hard in certain locations (e.g., tight narrow staircase)

[strong gulch]

Arco

[spice veldt]

hi

[strong gulch]

hi

[sturdy reef]

the barrel was underneath the staircase

[spice veldt]

fire has wings

[sturdy reef]

motherfucking fire crawled up the stairs like it was covered in napalm

[spice veldt]

strong legs

napalm or some flammable thing that can be ignited does sound neat

[strong gulch]

trauma falling through the stairs and fire climbing up through them.

[marble crater]

Physics

[ripe obsidian]

@plucky flax
Doggo damage without Break the Line or BtL doggo buff: 650ish DPS on an Auric mauler

Doggo damage with BtL, but no doggo buff: the same

Doggo damage with BtL and doggo buff: 690ish

[potent echo]

Who's arco

[ripe obsidian]

The doggo damage node adds maybe 50 DPS

[strong gulch]

@spice veldt is arco

[sturdy reef]

Doggo 2 pounces a reaper with btl buff

Otherwise 3

[spice veldt]

Who's arco

[potent echo]

I don't Bieber

[strong gulch]

madge

[plucky flax]

You're saying 50% doggo damage is a scam?

[sturdy reef]

Running bleed + electrocute

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[strong gulch]

[ripe obsidian]

In Auric, at least

And it's only barely

[sturdy reef]

Yee

[plucky flax]

If its like eating an elite tho

[sturdy reef]

But its a good breakpoint

[plucky flax]

Does it increase the mauling damage?

[sturdy reef]

Yes

[plucky flax]

When it's latched on

Thats good damage

[ripe obsidian]

If you sic the dog on something else, the shock and bleed kills the reaper with 2 pounces

[ripe obsidian]

It isn't

[plucky flax]

[sturdy reef]

Mostly wanted for elec/bleed

[plucky flax]

Faster elite killing smoother game in havoc

[sturdy reef]

Otherwise I wouldnt run it

[ripe obsidian]

It doesn't

Affect bleed or shock

Only mauling

[plucky flax]

The maul and the pounce?

Or no pounce

[ripe obsidian]

Maul and pounce, not bleed and shock

[marble crater]

"Dog damage is a scam" - Cat person

[ripe obsidian]

Cyber Mastiff damage is its own damage type

That's all that's buffed

[hearty wolf]

I swear btl affects electrocution damage

[sturdy reef]

Sin

My 40 ez

Will plah 2morrow

[hearty wolf]

It's cooked man

[sturdy reef]

No

[hearty wolf]

I'm down 17

[sturdy reef]

Ez

LOL

[ripe obsidian]

BtL does. The dog node does not

[hearty wolf]

17 losses, not havoc 17 yet

[ripe obsidian]

BtL increases all damage attributed to you

[hearty wolf]

Oh right

That's kind of fucking ass, no?

[sturdy reef]

Counterintuitive

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, the dog damage node is really, really bad

[hearty wolf]

I'll skip that and add the monstrosity + Ogryn damage

[ripe obsidian]

It takes a pounce on a reaper up like 200 damage, but it only pounces once per ~3 seconds, at most

[sturdy reef]

Imma get the brittleness one instead then

[hearty wolf]

Electrocution is still pog though yes?

[sturdy reef]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

It increases maul damage from like 160 per tick to 240, but the bleed and shock do all the damage

And they aren't affected

[hearty wolf]

Yuh will pick up that Ogryn node or the dodge node

[sturdy reef]

Also just learned about burgle tongue being a weakpoint as well

[hearty wolf]

Think I'll skip the dodge damage node because I don't want duellist bullshit all over again

[sturdy reef]

That tree is goated tho

[hearty wolf]

Yea, head and tongue. And if weapon big, you can hit through its mouth

[sturdy reef]

And it isnt nearly as sick as duelist

[hearty wolf]

To its back

[ripe obsidian]

I believe the dog maul damage ticks once per second when pinning an enemy, so it's like an 80 dps boost at most

[sturdy reef]

Imma do my btl boss dps build next time

Except its just ranged

[ripe obsidian]

I have time for one game, if anyone wants to try an H40. Otherwise I will probably try to sleep

[sturdy reef]

Im in bed

[wispy bay]

BoN mouth has always been a weak spot. It didn't show on the hit marker before, but it still registered weak spot talents/abilities.

[sturdy reef]

2morrow

[hearty wolf]

@ripe obsidian Go over my child tomorrow

Wyf

Build

Not child

Don't have one of those yet

[ripe obsidian]

I will review your child harshly and unfairly.

[hearty wolf]

😭

[potent echo]

Which part of the mouth actually? I always though the head itself also counted as a weakspot

[wispy bay]

Sin's plot gets thicker.

[wispy bay]

The mouth/tongue part

[strong gulch]

I am witnessing chat. 👀

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/witness-rage-mad-max-gif-4527107021531365595

[wispy bay]

It does like 3/4 of the damage of the back weakspot.

[potent echo]

Does brain burst target the tongue in the head or nah

[spice veldt]

it only became a weakspot recently

otherwise, it just had higher ranged dmg modifiers on that hitzone

[wispy bay]

Sin's brain is fried trying to finish H40. So he is sacrificing his offspring for power.

[potent echo]

I assume the child would still work mostly fine after the review

[hearty wolf]

Died one too many times to a ritual DH

[strong gulch]

Paying a visit to rumpelstiltskin

[hearty wolf]

Time to make my own

[wispy bay]

You want to be the storm that's approaching? We will see tomorrow.

[wide galleon]

anyone else a soulblaze enthusiast? 🥹

[fierce crest]

no

perilous combustion is the least picked talent

[plucky flax]

Hmm maybe I remove 50% damage doggo too

[wispy bay]

Actually remember some YouTubers said that.

[fierce crest]

warp rupture is the superior upgrade

[plucky flax]

My build doesn't have the 15% damage to staggered enemies node so I'd probably take that

[marble crater]

Only almost every psyker

[glass laurel]

Hello psykerers

[copper jay]

Hello !

[marble crater]

Hello sweet brute

[copper jay]

This is hard to play Psyker after the mobility with Zealot

Everything seems faster on Zealot

@marble craterHelp me

[marble crater]

Stop playing classes that don't matter and focus on playing psyker instead

[plucky flax]

If you want fast you can either equip ds4/knife or use mettle for speed boost via gun

[potent echo]

Might be the lack of dodge distance on psyker that feels really off (coming back from arby to psyk)

Zealot has even more dodge distance if you take momentum keystone

[copper jay]

Maybe !

[copper jay]

Coming from DS4 Zealot to DS4Psyker feel slow

[celest valve]

psyker has smallest dodge distance i recall yes

psyker also generally can dodge the most out of any class for various reasons so

[spice veldt]

2m dodge distance v.s. vet/zealot 2.5m

some weapons seem to have broken dodge properties, so they have the same dodge distance regardless of the class you're on (Duelling sword, tactical axe, & knife)

[plucky flax]

Im sorry

[copper jay]

This is my fault, sometimes I play book zealot for support and I got bad habits

[potent echo]

Huh

[summer prairie]

those are just overrides rather than something being broken

[potent echo]

I assume this is the case for some guns too?

Crab dodging with revolver / boltpistol is faster than sprinting

[nova tendon]

fatshark just put a plague marine as a boss

[potent echo]

We haven't even killed Wolfer

[marble crater]

We can't even get out of uprising

[potent echo]

We did get out of sedition as a community 🥹

[hearty wolf]

Tell me about it

I'm about to go to my local dealer to get some cocaine

Gotta amp up

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

m8

your island doesnt have uppers just downers

[hearty wolf]

M8

[paper harbor]

Clad!

[hearty wolf]

My armour type is about to go from maniac to infested with all the juice I'm about to get

[deft stump]

WDYM? They just removed the hardest diff. More ppl died (by falls) in it than anything else.

[paper harbor]

Player with no vermintide skill could die in Darktide

They think Darktide is a shooter like l4d2

Look my friend best shooting and also ganked by melee enemies to death

[deft stump]

Blame how volley fire works.

Tunnel vision.

[paper harbor]

Volley fire with no protection is really kill the player want refund the game

[hearty wolf]

Unfortunately Vermintide requires negative skill at the moment 😭

Darktide is heading in that direction too at this rate

[deft stump]

Rather a player base to some.

[paper harbor]

People play easy mode and never go higher won’t build reflexes or adapt environment

I sense is like 60 year old player base

[potent echo]

Higher difficulty scary..

[paper harbor]

I have my limited cant go beyond auric and havoc

It would be me have to overclock my brain to play those

[potent echo]

Gaming

Tbh I wouldn't have played VT2 if I didn't get onboarded by friends (or without the price tag of $5)

[hearty wolf]

I think it's just how some people make it look

You can take those difficulties much slower and just focus on better positioning

You basically just shift the skill requirement from being a zoomer to positioning and thinking

[paper harbor]

That’s require me overclocking it

[potent echo]

Turns around
Team gone / on the floor

[hearty wolf]

Protec the children

[potent echo]

It does select for more aggressive playstyles

[paper harbor]

I hate if materials laying around when in aurics

[potent echo]

It's me

I stopped collecting them

[paper harbor]

My eyes prize on materials

[potent echo]

Only diamantine

[paper harbor]

I got plenty diamantine but it soon be depleting

[marble crater]

Basically what I try to do, more positioning than 360 no scope skills

[plucky flax]

Because you're not pro like karien

[marble crater]

Yes

[hearty wolf]

I find focusing on positioning is really boring for some reason.

I feel like there's no variety in the map pool and all the maps play out in the same kind of way

[marble crater]

Well it's not only positioning, just more towards that side than the other

[potent echo]

It is fun to cover your team's back and them, yours

As long as no one is rocking anything too meta and just doing everyone's job

[plucky flax]

Let people die so you can do fail clutch

[marble crater]

[hearty wolf]

Sometimes I know my psyker is behind me being mauled by ragers

Sometimes I save them

But bonking crushers? BONKBONKBONK

The invasive thoughts 😭

[paper harbor]

My fgs can’t solo 4 pack crusher and extra 3 maulers and 5 bruiser

[potent echo]

Yes it can

[paper harbor]

Crusher and mauler doing rythimic overhead would land a strike on me

Then brusier catch me up doing uppercut attack

[plucky flax]

Run away

[paper harbor]

How slow is fgs?

[glacial vapor]

With an FGS? Good luck

[potent echo]

You have the bestest

[hearty wolf]

FGS can solo anything

[marble crater]

Yes

[plucky flax]

With range weapon

[potent echo]

Funniest ranged illisi

[weary idol]

mobility wise it's pretty slow, attack speed wise not slow at all

[potent echo]

Poke so good it's one poke one kill (mainly)

[paper harbor]

It would take time to kill them 1 by one until some specialist would greet me and I have to do dance to death

Small space like pillar and objects fine for me when bomber present

[plucky flax]

It's simply impossible.

[indigo thunder]

I want to grab Kinetic Deflecton. What can I safely remove?

[upper sun]

🚬 nothing can be safely removed
best bet is one of the toughness nodes or warp battery

[paper harbor]

Clad!

[upper sun]

hi

[paper harbor]

:3

Shak

[glacial vapor]

Get rid of Inner tranquility and join the empyric resolve bandwagon to compensate. Drop "Penetration of the soul" It's better in my experience anyway. Inner tranq is inconsistent

[worthy cedar]

Any Blaze Force Greatsword enjoyers can tell me which stat I should go for as a dump stat?

[glacial vapor]

Warp res

[spice oar]

Warp res

[fierce crest]

everything that has warp res dumps it except voidSTRIKE which dumps blast radius

[spice oar]

So that one button press can take you halfway to daemon-possession

[paper harbor]

I need bigger ball to blow up the enemy.

[fierce crest]

if only the ball did damage

but it doesnt

so its size doesnt matter

[paper harbor]

Explode radius would be useful

[plucky flax]

Inner tranquility.

[indigo thunder]

The build is for rending trauma

[quartz barn]

Ib4 big fish changes blast radius to blast dmg on voidstrike

[marble crater]

Rend inner tranquilty from the build

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/hawk-eye-dont-give-me-hope-clint-barton-avengers-gif-14260447

[tulip kettle]

i think voidstrike needs projectile speed increase to be good

but thats just like

https://tenor.com/view/dennis-miller-my-opinion-wrong-gif-14726828

[fierce crest]

they should add a blessing that doubles the secondary projectile some times

[tulip kettle]

... what?

strike can already proc surg on secondary

[fierce crest]

yes

another one

[tulip kettle]

oh so just, "surge, again" the blessing?

[fierce crest]

they already added some warframe ass weapons with rumbler and arbi shotgun

4x multishot please

this would be balanced i think

[upper sun]

"Fixed an issue that was causing the server to crash when players would step in specific locations in several missions."
how

[proper osprey]

Kinetic flayer

[fierce crest]

so many ways

[upper sun]

blocked+wrong+noob

[brazen compass]

They """"fix"""" that every fucking patch

[summer prairie]

dog punture fixed

[proper osprey]

Ahhhh you rely on dat 10% to give dem head

Frick you

[brazen compass]

"how can I play Arbites in Havoc when I can't use my dog bombs now?"

[fierce crest]

but that means assail still works right :D

and greatsword wave

[proper osprey]

Gonna slime you out

Yes

I’ll work for it

[brazen compass]

I literally had an Arbites do nothing but rely on the dog bombs for horde clear

[fierce crest]

i mean why not

its decent horde clear

[brazen compass]

Sat with his Bistol out and just waited for the dog to pounce

Ignored his melee entirely

[quartz barn]

Gotta ration ammo when theres no surv vet

[proper osprey]

How many stacks did it apply? Just 4?

[glacial vapor]

Like 80% of Arbites then?

[brazen compass]

It's decent until you fold at every horde, sure

[fierce crest]

all

[proper osprey]

Sorry I’ll practice more

[glacial vapor]

Worse than vets lol. Dog just carries

[proper osprey]

Ok that’s funny

[upper sun]

nuh uhhh it helps PC chains get going super fast

[brazen compass]

Me running Lone Wolf: What dog?

[upper sun]

all my homies love KF

[fierce crest]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1lnttb3/the_bolt_pistols_puncture_blessing_applies_to/

[summer prairie]

?

[proper osprey]

I took a break from Arby because there’s so many bad people using it

[potent echo]

is this psyker? or arby

[summer prairie]

no idea what that is

[potent echo]

we are getting closer to swift slaying every patch...

[summer prairie]

Nice typos

[potent echo]

also isnt that a zealot talent

DR after crit

[fierce crest]

if mettle is so good, where's mettle 2?

[summer prairie]

sounds like it but maybe it's early zealot overhaul stuff

[proper osprey]

Tbh i love it I wish it wasn’t 15 seconds

[fierce crest]

mettle 2:

[potent echo]

thats probably true

although i wish for psyker changes too

[fierce crest]

i think its well known enough that the 3 old trees all need some reworking

even if psyker needs it the least

[potent echo]

psyker got a pretty good touching

[potent echo]

riposte 2

[plucky flax]

Nooo my bleed dog mine

Is void bleed still a thing?

[fierce crest]

i dont think the hotfix is out yet

cant test

[plucky flax]

Very sad they nerf bleed dog mine. It takes a lot of skills.

[summer prairie]

maybe it's just a new mortis trials thing

[fierce crest]

garanteed

hehe

[upper sun]

😭 lua isnt their first language

[marble crater]

Lowered requirements for some Arbites Penances:

‘Justice Dispensed’ from 3500 to 750
‘Arbites Gunner’ from 3500 to 2000
‘Castigator’s Arrest’ from 3500 to 2000

Damn, I completed them a few days too soon

[fierce crest]

whens the krak grenade penance nerf

[upper sun]

haha

[upper sun]

play scab melee

[fierce crest]

yeah ive just been missing bruiser packs so it aoes

but still

it really should be "stick krak grenades to enemies"

cuz if you use it right like half the time your team steals it

[marble crater]

Make the fuse time shorter when you stick it to an enemy

It's too long

[fierce crest]

no

instead we will create a new class that has an imact detonated grenade

cry about it

[summer prairie]

Void bleed is gone, it's your dog's bleed now

[quartz barn]

Melta bomb

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-gif-21373815

[fierce crest]

what is void bleed

[summer prairie]

razor-jaw bleed

[fierce crest]

what was void about it

[summer prairie]

new havoc (and probably non-havoc event) modifier, Rotten armor

[proper osprey]

Guh the zealot rework

[deft stump]

Great coding basically.

[summer prairie]

this rotten armor thing might be more pox gas...

[fierce crest]

no its not a pox gas its a new thing

uhh

nox gas

[deft stump]

Maybe gas around the rotten target.

[fierce crest]

its not smoke its some other shit

[deft stump]

It wasn't linked to any player.

[fierce crest]

did that have any gameplay impact?

or was that just for scoreboards

[summer prairie]

it couldn't get buffed I guess

[fierce crest]

that matters

rending bleed is very good

[summer prairie]

the bleed is way too good, like 5x too good

[jovial juniper]

VT2 nurgle marked enemies dying and releasing gas

[fierce crest]

are we missing any vt enemies other than the blightstormers

[dusky crag]

Hookrat and leech

[fierce crest]

trapper tho

[dusky crag]

Doesn't drag you away

[fierce crest]

it drags you to it

[jovial juniper]

Leech is more akin to trapper than hookrat

[plucky flax]

Thats nice but sad that dog bleed mine is gone.

[fierce crest]

it just doesnt stick around like leech

[plucky flax]

More damage for scoreboard tho

[summer prairie]

it might get buffed +150% by EO

oh I can try this new thing

no wait this thing

[fierce crest]

ooh

stinky

oh we dont have the upgraded ogre boss

[dusky crag]

Stinkyyy

[jovial juniper]

Looks cool though

Glowing eyes make everything cooler

[summer prairie]

it's only scab berserkers, maulers, crushers right now, in havoc at least

but 100% chance

[lucid terrace]

Just a visual difference or any stat changes?

[plucky flax]

6 said the 50% dog damage talent from charge doesn't increase dog bleed but that was void bleed

[summer prairie]

well that bleed couldn't be increased by anything

[plucky flax]

But now dog is player bleed

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/npw2o6

[plucky flax]

So does that talent increase bleed?

[fierce crest]

gooey

[jovial juniper]

Bro I was about to ask why the scabs got it but the dregs didn't

[loud girder]

sick

[jovial juniper]

But it literally has "armor" in the name

[plucky flax]

Game too hard

[loud girder]

they're all stinkyyyy

[fierce crest]

dreg bruiser gets a stinky hat

[jovial juniper]

[plucky flax]

I feel even with puncture dog mine nerf bistol is still too good for eo build because of good breakpoint

[jovial juniper]

VT2 nurgle marked enemies are back

Holy shit

This is goo but better

[spice oar]

What is this, enemy skins?

[summer prairie]

likely next live event/havoc mutator

[loud girder]

what are the gameplay effects of the stinky crushers

[fierce crest]

#psyker-class message

[loud girder]

besides looking very nurgley

[spice oar]

What we thinking, reanimated monsters?

[summer prairie]

well as you can see they explode and there's pox gas

[loud girder]

oh shoot

nice

[spice oar]

😭😭😭

[fierce crest]

was this a backend only patch

[loud girder]

if this is an event its gonna be 4 arbites with rebreather every team 😭

[spice oar]

Emperor give me strength that one arbites node will be really helpful 😭

[fierce crest]

arbites braincell on full power

[loud girder]

lmao

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

This is literally immunity to ranged enemies and dogs

[spice oar]

The lex is the lex

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

Paid to win

[loud girder]

i had no idea ranged mfs can miss in gas

untill cole said it

imma need someone to make a 1 hour video titled THINGS THE GAME DOESNT TELL YOU

oh wait u mean the rebreather makes tox bombers a non issue

trueee

[jovial juniper]

So you give gas clouds to elites and shit

And have lots of gas resist

You can fight in this gas and ignore ranged units for a while

If this goes to havoc

Easiest havoc ever

[tulip kettle]

@summer prairie needed to update the game if u still have a slot

[plucky flax]

Its better tbh cos gas dont give instant corruption. Goop was actual cancer

The aoe seems small enough to just run through

[indigo thunder]

By goo you mean beast's vomit?

[plucky flax]

Unless they die in a staggered way

[jovial juniper]

Worse

[plucky flax]

No it's a havoc modifier. Green goop on the floor everywhere

Its very anti melee

[loud girder]

green goop filtered me on havoc 1.0 hard

worst shit ever

[jovial juniper]

You'd see a single green enemy running towards you

You killed it

It splatted all over the place

Now you have 10 green enemies running at you

[fierce crest]

this one?

[jovial juniper]

The Blight Spreads

[fierce crest]

ah yeah

theres so much infection themed modifiers

its like nurgle is here or something

sliding through goo is worse lol

its dark souls 2 all over again

[summer prairie]

@tulip kettle full

[fierce crest]

so is the update out?

[summer prairie]

363k damage and out of that 213k was bleed

very balanced

[fierce crest]

ive still got old shit

[plucky flax]

Dog bleed is still bs? He bleeds a while blob with a pounce?

[jovial juniper]

Oh

All this immunity to ranged talk

Made me forget that enemies in gas are thicker

[summer prairie]

yes

[jovial juniper]

More resilient

[loud girder]

its still ps
They just nerfed explosion interaction with puncture
but u still bleed mfs by bouncing on them

[plucky flax]

Its balanced

[jovial juniper]

So if it's a havoc modifier

[plucky flax]

Since they took out bleed dog mine

[jovial juniper]

Plus Rampaging I guess

You have extra resilient enemies

[fierce crest]

least powerful paid dlc character

good dog

[keen pine]

is there a build for this?

[loud girder]

i was defending arabebebes against op allegations cause ogryn exists but stuff like this is just

[summer prairie]

or wait maybe my numbers were wrong, i'll check

[fierce crest]

they should just unnerf Assail at this point

somehow that took more skill than what we've got now

[deft stump]

Steam, yes.

[fierce crest]

gamepass no?

i cry

[loud girder]

do any build u want and take the bleed bounce blessing and voltaic jaw then spec into EO keystone and take dog dmg nodes

[keen pine]

thank you

[fierce crest]

ah i had to open the xbox app and update it manually

running the launcher exe wasnt doing it

[summer prairie]

a lot of server crashes

[primal aurora]

I haven't played for few months. Any interesting changes for Psykers?

[quartz barn]

Bruh with unnerfed assail you didnt even have to use actual weapons

[fierce crest]

#psyker-class message

[quartz barn]

Yes i know dog bleed is op

[primal aurora]

What kind of warp fuckery is this?

[plucky flax]

Arbies fighting each other for bleed ownership

[spice veldt]

it is, as the kids say, unforeseen consequences of giving ownership of the razor-jaw bleed to the dog

[plucky flax]

Brother against brother

[summer prairie]

the game is crashing every time

at least relay station

[plucky flax]

Too much cheating

[fierce crest]

they caught you smelling the new gas

[summer prairie]

it's the server crashing

[marble crater]

That will be my next arby mission

[jovial juniper]

This shit ain't nothing to me man

[fierce crest]

im out here smoking "nurgle's finest"

[deft stump]

They keep stealing my frag bleed damage already anyway.

[indigo thunder]

Pox gas in high havocs fucks me up. Any advice on what to tweak in regards to talents and gear?

[plucky flax]

Don't play pox gas modifier

[indigo thunder]

I guess that's a way

[quartz barn]

Basically run bubble

[summer prairie]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/mission-crash-refinery-delta-17-campaign-mission/110530 so don't play that map

[fierce crest]

yeah was about to say

i loaded in a diff mission on that map and it still crashed

[marsh badger]

I just crashed twice on harbor side also in the same spot

[fierce crest]

well "crashed"

it boots me to character select

while loading in

so anything in The Hourglass?

[fierce crest]

spireside?

[jovial juniper]

hotfix
Looks inside
Something breaks

[fierce crest]

well

you no longer crash when standing at a SPECIFIC spot

[deft stump]

You just crash whenever.

[fierce crest]

:P

yeah

[marsh badger]

the sandy one with the initial long hallway and circular room

[limber tapir]

is this the bleed node on the top?

[limber tapir]

yeah that one

holy i did not realize how broken that was

[fierce crest]

its more broken now since the bleed wasnt affected by dog buffs before

[marsh badger]

but yea it was on hourglass

[loud girder]

seems like no one is testing this at fatshark

[plucky flax]

Refinary is too long anyway.

Hard map.

[fluid forge]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[fierce crest]

it doesnt crash if youre using the specific 1070 TI that the one QA guy has

not the specific model

that one gpu

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/mistamandrew-plans-i-have-plans-i-cannot-share-haters-gif-15485001350530694977

[plucky flax]

This increase the dog bleed now.

Seems worth it. @ripe obsidian

[dusky crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385180267148476466/1391778775825383434/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.07.07_-_08.51.28.16.mp4?ex=686d227e&is=686bd0fe&hm=f454273910ecbde1978ce8facbb4d9a2c53271c1cd2a6874b7c896c7a1a11b13&

Shamelessly stolen

[jovial juniper]

This bunch of Ragers sounded like Korn

https://youtube.com/shorts/kZpIMFTQYZ8?si=i1tXJdDnXqk5-2-r&utm_source=ZTQxO

[plucky flax]

Any noobs wanna get carried in h40 by @deft stump ?

[deft stump]

WDYM? I'm the one needing a carry for H40.

[plucky flax]

No u.

[summer prairie]

in a sec

[plucky flax]

Okay we wait for you so you too can be carried.

[summer prairie]

only 1/3 bleed damage, not that good

bleed was stealing companion damage though

[plucky flax]

Strike down talent and opportunist should stack addictively?

So 15%+25% rending on staggered enemies.

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

Sounds quite good.

For shield gaming.

[summer prairie]

crash

[wispy bay]

Getting extra impact with arby funny, you can stage anything with a single hit.

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s the intention at least for me

Light hit heavy hit combo undefeated

[vestal trench]

wtf is the point of my flame staff then

[loud girder]

this is 100% getting nerfed no way they keep it

[dusky crag]

If this shit stays the bar is in hell

[vestal trench]

yknow when the talent tree update first dropped and i saw how op assail was i didnt come back to the game like i thought i would bc i didnt want to subject or be subjected to walking simulator

meanwhile arbites andys over in the arbites channel are defending that as balanced

[potent echo]

[vestal trench]

[dusky crag]

It's one guy tbf

[jovial juniper]

It's always one

[loud girder]

its just 1 guy ragebaiting

very low effort bait

i think anyone with a brain can see how busted some of these stuff are

[vestal trench]

lbr that one guy would be more than one guy if we look at the reddit and steam community audience

[potent echo]

i know multiple guys defending

[loud girder]

those are your "hehe its pve game just have fun!" crowd
they exist for every class

no nerfs only buffs woohoooo

[vestal trench]

im less confident in things just being bait anymore after people review bombed bc of the power sword nerfs back on launch

[mint matrix]

just press one button win crowd lul

[vestal trench]

im sure it only got worse after helldivers

[dusky crag]

It got so much worse

[loud girder]

hd2 did dmg that cant be fixed to pve games

[dusky crag]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/7rqDIBcDmR
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/C5TgfbE1cA

I wanna link to these again

[loud girder]

every pve game is infested with people who cry the moment anything is touched

[dusky crag]

It's bad

[loud girder]

its also cause for a lot of people co op games are just fun timez to pass the time

except they wanna clear the highest diffs easily for some reason

[vestal trench]

it's genuinely so selfish

YEAH

[loud girder]

instead of just playing on lower ones

[dusky crag]

This reminds me of... destiny 2...

That's not good...

[vestal trench]

if they didnt have the ego of needing to play high diff it wouldnt be an issue

https://tenor.com/view/mike-ehrmantraut-you-just-had-to-be-the-man-it-was-perfect-you-just-had-to-blow-it-up-you-your-pride-and-your-ego-gif-17878633628946254819

me @ buff everything crowd

[mint matrix]

they want to clear high diff without really putting time into learning the game

[loud girder]

i drop to lower difficulities when i wanna w+ no shame in doing that

u dont need to jump into havoc 40 after a hard work shift

[vestal trench]

sin, coaxing me into a havoc 30 after a hard work shift:

[hearty wolf]

Winwinwin

[hearty wolf]

So that node is still trash

But is void bleed still void bleed

Or is it attributed yet

[fierce crest]

a reasonable amount of bleed

its like an entire third player

567 kills by arbi, 590 kills by me, 626 kills by the dog

[potent echo]

seems balanced to me

[summer prairie]

no, the bleed is your bleed now

[plucky flax]

It's balanced.

[dusky crag]

Infact it's a little too weak

[sturdy reef]

is it with puncture bug or not

[deft stump]

Puppo go boof boof.

[summer prairie]

we had 3 arbies with the bleed node and 1.67m bleed overall

[dusky crag]

They fixed that

[sturdy reef]

oh nice

[dusky crag]

But broke dog bleed

So it's better now

[sturdy reef]

smh

wat

[deft stump]

Puppo has brittle as well btw. :3

[sturdy reef]

is this the latest hotfix this happened

[dusky crag]

Bleed now inherits buffs from the dog buffs

[plucky flax]

It's gone. But the dog's bleed is more OP now cos it gets buffed.

[sturdy reef]

oh thank god

more bleed

lmao

so the BTL node is now good

[dusky crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385180267148476466/1391778775825383434/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.07.07_-_08.51.28.16.mp4?ex=686d227e&is=686bd0fe&hm=f454273910ecbde1978ce8facbb4d9a2c53271c1cd2a6874b7c896c7a1a11b13&

[sturdy reef]

we were discussing that last night

[dusky crag]

Little damage

[plucky flax]

I use it yeah.

It buffs the bleed.

[sturdy reef]

there was no reason to buff the bleed again

[deft stump]

So, puppo better?

[plucky flax]

My dog does less 'companion' damage now but the bleed damage is insane.

[sturdy reef]

its less companion damage because the bleed damage is so good

lol

[dusky crag]

It wasn't by design

[fierce crest]

it was\

[plucky flax]

I apply bleed sic the dog on the boss and afk.

[fierce crest]

it was just bugged before

[plucky flax]

Also even though it's not void bleed it still eats the captain's hp through shield.

[fierce crest]

this is how it was intended to work

[plucky flax]

So it's very balanced.

[dusky crag]

I thought they switched it from ranged to dog that's why it does that

[summer prairie]

my dog can't compete with your puncture ownership on bosses

[dusky crag]

This shits on purpose????

[fierce crest]

they made the dog blitz count as ranged, the talent that makes the pounce bleed didnt work right

two separate bug fixes

[deft stump]

I have no idea what happened, all I know is hit hed with maul and let boof boof run around.

[dusky crag]

UNFIX IT QUICK DONT GO ON HOLIDAY YET

[plucky flax]

It's better this way. Also I am not sure if this would be how it worked but I have rending on staggered. So I assume when the boss is staggered (which is when its head got hit lol) my bleed would do extra damage to it.

[deft stump]

Also brittle if puppo latched.

[fierce crest]

britppo

[sturdy reef]

dog is on crack

[deft stump]

You said go all dog so I did. Lul.

[summer prairie]

if the dog talents are buffing bleed, most other things shouldn't be but not sure

[sturdy reef]

so

electrocution also got buffed then

because the +dmg talents should now be affecting it too?

[summer prairie]

that's not dog damage

[plucky flax]

Ye it does get buffed.

[summer prairie]

but yes

it is buffed by your other stuff

[plucky flax]

I tested prior to the game in meatgrinder. After charging both electric and dog bleed does more damage.

[summer prairie]

but not by +companion damage talents

charge does +25% on its own

[plucky flax]

Yeah.

[sturdy reef]

So +comp dmg is still a scam

Got it

[fierce crest]

no

[summer prairie]

it buffs bleed dots

[fierce crest]

have you not seen the numbers

[sturdy reef]

Oh

[ocean grotto]

whats better for inferno staff critical hit o brittleness_

?

[fierce crest]

there we go

today we are zealot chat

[jovial juniper]

Pen Flames is third pick

1st is Blaze Away

2nd is Nexus

[ocean grotto]

yeah i know blaze away is great

im not changing it

[fierce crest]

warp flurry is 3rd pick

imo imo

[ocean grotto]

but wondering why crit does it actually do more damage?

[fierce crest]

oh

[ocean grotto]

or is it just for sustain

[fierce crest]

it applies 2 burn stacks

and since burn dps is exponential-ish

double stacks is more than double dps

[ocean grotto]

I see

[fierce crest]

^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmoid_function

#not exponential

[ocean grotto]

ill keep running warp since it is better personal dps and sustain then ty

[fierce crest]

also its a meta thing

inferno psyker can deal with infinite horde

so you leave the boss busting to your team

[ocean grotto]

i just like the staf

very fun

[fierce crest]

yeah same

its been my favorite since vt

[vestal trench]

why am i not surprised this is from the arbites players

[fierce crest]

i miss bolt staff tho

voidstrike is not the same

[deft stump]

Naw, bubble still nice.

[dusky crag]

They're meming about denying people in havoc games

[fierce crest]

good

[deft stump]

Helps with annoying trappers and BS sniper spawn spots.

[plucky flax]

Its tru

[fierce crest]

i wouldnt want to accidentally cheat my havoc rating by playing with an arbi

[vestal trench]

......i would

my ass broke on diamantine

im taking that easy cache

[gray juniper]

That’s what it does seem like. Clearance 25. Request level 21 to help them and get penance. Denied

[plucky flax]

Karien you were less panicky maybe doggo is good for mental health

[ocean grotto]

dog makes game chill

[fierce crest]

this game was not chill

inferno is scary

cant see shit and the flames keep reaching out to me

[deft stump]

I mean, real doggo also good for mental health.

Also, playing the weird hybird tank build just feels safer... Except trappers.

TRAPPERS CAN GO BE NUKED.

DO NAWT LIKE/WANT.

[gray juniper]

I wish they fixed the visual with nets to line up with the dodging movement rather than being majority on timing and sound. It’s odd to dodge a net properly but it’s scraping past your eyes and other times you’re far from the net and it floats over you because you didn’t move at the right sound cue

[vestal trench]

actually interesting point in the arbites chat, how would psyker fare if they nerfed the infi cleave on vb and purg

[ripe obsidian]

If it increases bleed and/or shock, it's more worth it

[gray juniper]

That sounds more like deflection though

[flat nexus]

can you reply to it

[plucky flax]

@flat nexus 329 no buff and 394 or something wit hbuff.

After using charge.

[jovial juniper]

Would still be good

High stagger

Just boom people into the ground or push them away

[vestal trench]

sick

[jovial juniper]

And high stagger cuts mass by half

[vestal trench]

do i have to run rending trauma if theres another soulblaze psyker on a team btw

[jovial juniper]

So VB would still be running like nothing ever changed

[vestal trench]

i am not built for bubble knight

gotcha

[ripe obsidian]

I don't think that is the dog damage node

[dire warren]

Is anyone else having issues with the force push on the Greatsword not pushing?

[midnight jolt]

My Psyker likes other activities on his free time:

[potent echo]

is this vs bulwarks or smth

[ripe obsidian]

I think it's just the regular +25% from charge

[hearty wolf]

You're built for deez

Is everyone here

Do we have a stack

[ripe obsidian]

I am at work

[hearty wolf]

Fuck

[vestal trench]

im reviewing docs at work in between shitposting on disc

[mint matrix]

the push attack?

[vestal trench]

the great dog bleed meltdown seems to be done tho

[dire warren]

Hordes, mobs, everything. The animation cancels and you have to try and push again.

[vestal trench]

so now i actually gotta lock into work

[potent echo]

wuh

the push attacks only hits one target

the push is just a fard

doesnt do much

[last shore]

I can play in a couple

(Hours)

[hearty wolf]

Oki

O

😭

[vestal trench]

why would u edge sin like that

[plucky flax]

Noooo it's OP pls no flame.

[last shore]

Gotta get some work done first 😢

[dire warren]

But it should push a poxburster back. Instead my psykers pumps his fist and gets blown up.

[ripe obsidian]

Try it with just charge and no dog damage node

[flat nexus]

im not getting it on my one

[potent echo]

record something

[flat nexus]

uploading to yt since too big

[potent echo]

you are probably too far away

or the stagger is being overridden by something

or you are not doing the full push attack

[flat nexus]

also

what dmg node are you taking

is it only the charge

since when i charge nothing happen

[potent echo]

also does bubble knight take a staff or a gun

[dire warren]

I've done enough pushes to know when it works, thats why I'm wondering if it's an overridden thing bugging the push. Or is the push attack supposed to take twice as long as the regular force sword.

[potent echo]

[potent echo]

theres no difference

[summer prairie]

I didn't test it but the +25% from charge probably doesn't buff the bleed, but the +50% companion damage subnode probably does

[marble crater]

Inconsistencies in my darktide?

[dire warren]

Then something's janky at least on my end it seems.

[summer prairie]

no, because companion and your damage are seprate

[marble crater]

My companion and I have a very strong bond

[gray juniper]

It’s just something bugging recently

[hearty wolf]

@summer prairie vs

[potent echo]

regular push doesnt stop ragers

[hearty wolf]

which one is better

[gray juniper]

My dog came with high pedigree. It doesn’t need all these extra nodes to perform

[hearty wolf]

I don't like conditional things

but that damage would apply to ranged

which would change breakpoints

mayb

[marble crater]

With high dog food?

[hearty wolf]

but harder to proc on shit like BoN if it spits 24/7

[fierce crest]

if you havent dodged something in the last 5 seconds youre not playing havoc

or are dead

[gray juniper]

Only 10w20 and low ethanol for my pup

[hearty wolf]

The shooter galleries

[fierce crest]

zealot out here dealing with 2.5s dodge buff

[hearty wolf]

This is final build then

[fierce crest]

and arbi is lounging with 5s smh

[marble crater]

Since English is not my first language I legitimately only knew Pedigree as the dog food brand for the longest time and didn't know it has a meaning beyond that

[deft stump]

It means high purity pure breed.

[gray juniper]

Aw I’m sorry friend. Yea the dog food brand is confusing on the meaning fo the word

[deft stump]

That dog food brand is pretty much on the crappier end though.

[marble crater]

Yeah I learned this over the last few years or so, but for most of my life it was just the brand

[marble crater]

Indeed, we don't use it

[summer prairie]

+15% melee rending is pretty good for both bosses and ogryns

[last shore]

Also curious btw

Do you run the 50% ranged dog node

[deft stump]

Is like emergency use at best stuff only.

[hearty wolf]

yes

[last shore]

Ok I thought so

I have a theory that node is what’s making your dog target poxbursters

[marble crater]

Has to be a very big emergency for me to feed that to my dog

[hearty wolf]

But is it better than 20% pure damage against those two

And is it better than 15% for pressing space bar?

[deft stump]

true, but is last resort over starvation thing.

[summer prairie]

I don't currently take +1 effective dodges

[hearty wolf]

Maybe I press dodge too much

but extra frames and extra dodge is insane survivability

[plucky flax]

Yeah will do soon gaming atm

[gray juniper]

Do you own cat/cats also?

[random thunder]

POV you're about to get carried

[marble crater]

Nah, just one dog

[plucky flax]

@ripe obsidian 329 damage with charge no dog damage talent.

So the 50% damage does buff dog bleed.

Using it brings it back up to 394 after charge.

[deft stump]

Generally, just don't feed pedigree. if you read the ingredients, it's mostly junk fillers.

[plucky flax]

This is from psykhanium I dunno.

Dog bleed seems to be attributed to the player, but by itself is another different instance.

[gray juniper]

Honestly it’s worse for dogs to have more bad brands. Kibbles & bits, ol’ Roy, Iams aren’t good

[deft stump]

The only time you do is if you have no choice and it's between your pet having something or outright starving.

[gray juniper]

Yes but be mindful too all dry foods have large risk of carrying an inherent problem

The multiple cooking process and high temperature can cause large free radical amounts and other toxins to develop in the food

[ripe obsidian]

Weird. 70 is much lower than 50%

[deft stump]

It's just how they are made. Extrusion isn't great.

[gray juniper]

Not to pretend I’m above this. I do feed the cat dry food since it’s what she eats the easiest

[summer prairie]

that 394 might include his electric dot

[gray juniper]

Yes good point. I told my parents to feed their dogs rice and meat because all their previous dogs died of cancer

[plucky flax]

Nah i took it off

[deft stump]

Is always better to buy frozen chicken and boil them then shred.

[gray juniper]

Sound good

[deft stump]

Or pork if puppo is allergic.

[shut kite]

Is warp-flurry better than nexus if you are going full on qq-cancel on trauma? Maybe with SG and warp unbound?

[marble crater]

Thankfully we found wet and dry food that's both not total slop and is also being eaten by our dog, we had to find a balance between affordable, healthy and dog willing to eat it the only health problem she has, has nothing to do with the food. So very lucky and happy

[summer prairie]

with no other buffs my 8 stack boss bleed goes from 132 to 198 with +50% companion damage from charge

but if you have other companion buffs the +50% is going to be additive with those, so taking it won't buff it by another 50%

[hearty wolf]

It doesn't sound good considering dog is like 10-20% of your overall damage anywya

[summer prairie]

well now the bleed is more like 1/3 of your damage or more

and then other companion damage on top of that

[hearty wolf]

Op bleed - it's still void bleed though?

[summer prairie]

no it's ours now

[fierce crest]

lol

[hearty wolf]

what

[fierce crest]

people have responded to you like 3 times

[summer prairie]

we did a run with 3 dogs and they did 1.67m bleed damage

[fierce crest]

and its in the patch notes

[summer prairie]

it's not

[fierce crest]

^

oh

my b

[hearty wolf]

I also didn't see that cos I wasn't tagged

I was working

[gray juniper]

That’s great to hear. Yea Big Slop has the pet food market under total control. It makes affordability harder to handle for sure. I ended up giving cat purina naturals after getting the veterinarian’s recommendation

[fierce crest]

wtf did i read

i swear

[hearty wolf]

Jesus fuck

What's bleed's ADM?

[gray juniper]

If you ever get a cat don’t feed them friskies or meow mix. It’s total slop

[ripe obsidian]

Does the bleed attribute properly now?

[hearty wolf]

@ripe obsidian

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, I missed that

[hearty wolf]

That's really nice against unyielding :o

[ripe obsidian]

The bleed is actually OP.

[deft stump]

Is cat ver of pedigree.

With brittle even funnier.

[gray juniper]

@deft stump what’s funny is I tried to get cat to eat whole meats but she just picks at it and leaves it alone after a while. Only nosy about what I’m eating but won’t eat it

[ripe obsidian]

It also means the bleed can properly trigger on-kill effects, which makes Canine Morale probably really good

+20% TDR to you and allies in coherency on dog pounce kill

[deft stump]

You have fussy cat. My puppo eats anything I do, so have been cooking with less salt tbh.

[hearty wolf]

if it's like 16 bleed on pounce and its merking everything tho

is the electrocution still worth

[deft stump]

Is more damage so....

If things die faster=moar buffs.

[hearty wolf]

You can't kill faster than instant

[ripe obsidian]

This state is stupid. It's 83°F/29.5°C and people are walking around in jackets like they're cold

How absurd

[upper sun]

"Refinery Delta-17 currently experiencing a high crash rate."

oh noooooooo

😭

😭

[brazen compass]

They should change that to *the whole fucking game

TWICE in a week I've gotten "mission aborted due to unexpected error"

In Havoc

[fierce crest]

it seems to be really bad with any Hourglass stages not just refinery

[brazen compass]

Which also conveniently locks you out of playing again unless you cancel the deployment

[upper sun]

oh noooooo not the hourglass 😭

[ripe obsidian]

That was happening due to dogs walking into areas players can't reach afaik

[upper sun]

does anyone actually like hourglass?

even carnival is better

[brazen compass]

good to know Arbites already bring nothing into Havoc, and I can just skip them entirely

[fierce crest]

i insta crashed at relay station and someone else was saying they crashed a specific part of spireside more than once

[upper sun]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer-40k-darktide/images/2/2b/Darktide_map_comp.png/revision/latest?cb=20241121221339

good, kino, i mean its alright
good, awful, good

[fierce crest]

its so blurry

and i cant tell whats actually overlapping

but thats awesome

[bitter zodiac]

any advice for psyker in havoc?

I can hold my own in melee, but I struggle traversing with ranged enemies around. Sprint / sliding doesn't shave off enough damage to keep me from going down and I can't keep up with my team

[marble crater]

Only the best for our best friends

[summer prairie]

if you are playing inferno staff, put +5% crit on it and run Empathic Evasion

[bitter zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[marble crater]

Why are you a carnival hater?

[summer prairie]

charge slide, get some procs and you can suppress them all when in range

[fierce crest]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-no-embed-permissions-no-embed-gif-1634188402748383601

[upper sun]

its ok

[bitter zodiac]

any advice for posting gifs in chat

I tried using one as a humerous way of expressing gratitude, but it didn't work and now I've been embarassed in front of the wizards

[vestal trench]

chat enough and you get red name eventually

...or is it orange

im actually not sure

[marble crater]

Just talk more to get red name

[fierce crest]

https://tenor.com/view/lightning-palpatine-sheev-palpatine-power-star-wars-gif-16503984

[marble crater]

It's red

[vestal trench]

thats red??? fuck LMAO

o no

[bitter zodiac]

looks like...

salmon

[marble crater]

Salmon is red with extra steps, definitely not orange though

[marble crater]

Maybe time for a color blind test?

[vestal trench]

yup

...test says im fine

[strong gulch]

I knew some of these shapes... from fall through the map.

[fierce crest]

its a lightish red

a darkish pink

[marble crater]

Good

[vestal trench]

now that im looking at orange next to red on the wheel it might be less that im color blind and more that i have way too lax a definition for orange

[marble crater]

Well, it's a good thing that we don't have to gather berries and stuff anymore to survive, or you would be cooked

[fierce crest]

its good to cook the berries either way

yummy jam

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

To be fair, noticing color differences, out side of differences in our eyes, is also a skill. There is an orange lean to the color. It's mostly red, but it's funny when mixed colors cause fights.

[vestal trench]

makes sense! i didnt word it best either, i think instead of laxly defining orange i just tend to see red as like, stop sign red and nothing else

[limber tapir]

I saw tanner's video on the inferno staff and he mentions that if u charge a full cast and let go before 100% peril, you wont explode
Is this still true?

[vestal trench]

.....come to think of it i blame my grade school art teacher, he had strict definitions when it came to primary colors 😂

[marble crater]

Yes, you can even keep casting if you reach 100% while firing, but if you charge it again at 100 you will die

[limber tapir]

I see, thanks

[fierce crest]

you have to start the cast at 100

to explode

[limber tapir]

Btw is the tech of not fully maxing out the inferno staff to keep warp res low popular? Like does it impact gameplay much

[gray juniper]

Join hufflepuff

[fierce crest]

i think a partial charge has better direct dps

but who cares, full charge

oh nvm

[limber tapir]

So i can quell down to like 98%, start a new full charge and not explode?

[fierce crest]

i misread

[fierce crest]

not start the charge

start the cast

[limber tapir]

Yeah i meant that, right click holding right?

[fierce crest]

released cast here, didnt explode

you can also hold the charge at 100% and you wont pop

you have to actually start the cast at 100% to pop

[limber tapir]

I see

[fierce crest]

can sit like this forever and not pop

[deft stump]

It's orange. I knew it.

[fierce crest]

its way more red than orange but it is slightly orange yes

[deft stump]

I still think they picked it to start fights between rejects.

_>

[fierce crest]

this is the fully saturated color

its just lightish red thats slightly orange

[tulip kettle]

i mean i found when testing the other day that the best overall dps is 2 half charges on inferno, which will get everything to max stacks, then swap to DS and proc uncanny

[vestal trench]

do you proc uncanny on hordes or just tougher targets? by the time i get to having the time to proc it the fodder's dead and the next batch needs SB stacks

[tulip kettle]

it doesnt matter

im talking for when theres those just mass blobs of 50 elites and 100 trash your team is funneling

[vestal trench]

gotcha

[tulip kettle]

usually if you have warpfire and PC and KF your fire will just be going everywhere like crazy anyway

but just getting to 3 stacks of uncanny takes your from 46 damage per tick on a crusher to over 300

[vestal trench]

huh, i'll def proc uncanny on elite groups then

regular poxwalkers probs not as important ye?

[tulip kettle]

i wold think not

they die so fast anyway i usually just do a decent charge blast then chop the stragglers

[vestal trench]

i started proccing uncanny on bosses at least if theres no horde to deal with and i def noticed the difference

[cunning plinth]

@plucky flax did you see mr e calling the lightning staff bad because it gives you so much peril?