psyker-class

[marble crater]

Fraud

[jovial juniper]

It's a skill

[gray juniper]

I’m using it now

[jovial juniper]

And skills need to be honed

And kept

Also my tagging button wore off

It's literally not working

I stared at a big ammo pack yesterday

Trying to ping it for a teammate

It looked like I was pondering what a big ammo bag was

[ripe obsidian]

Ping isn't working properly for me, either. Is painful

[long wharf]

did you test your mouse button elsewhere?

because since the patch, pinging has become spotty

[strong gulch]

They "fixed it" don't worry.

[jovial juniper]

It literally wore off

It's not games fault

This time

[long wharf]

alright

[strong gulch]

I haven't played arby after the fix, but I couldn't ping on other character if I chose single tag for the dog.

[gray juniper]

@marble crater I’m not adjusting well to this build homie lol

[marble crater]

There weren't that many changes

[hearty wolf]

come

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042858500205846528

@ripe obsidian wakey

[strong gulch]

fighting my cat

[ripe obsidian]

Ahhhhhhhhhh you didn't take long enough

I am slow

[hearty wolf]

ok

you get 1 more

[ripe obsidian]

How generous

[gray juniper]

I know 😭

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, I am here. I can do one game, then I have stuff I must do. Not sure how long that will last

[hearty wolf]

ok

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042858500205846528

[patent mango]

just so peak

[vestal trench]

how does the ttk for laspistol and recon las compare, assuming dd/dumdum/infernus/gaze?

[upper sun]

@patent mango post board

[patent mango]

i dont ahve the moood

[gray juniper]

Maybe just me but I did terrible and not much help to them @marble crater

[tulip kettle]

it was a funny game

much trolling occured

[gray juniper]

I won’t blame your erudite suggestions. It’s probably my ass plays lol

[upper sun]

no its fine @patent mango stole all of my dogs kills

[patent mango]

i wasnt even paying attention to anything LOL

[tulip kettle]

your build was just not set up for the modifier med

[gray juniper]

who did voidblast? It negated my point of being there

[tulip kettle]

i was running brittle blast so you all can get funny number

but what do you mean

[gray juniper]

What was the moodier? Tbh I don’t even look

[tulip kettle]

melee only

so lots of carapace heads

and you have assail

[gray juniper]

Yea I didn’t have much in my bag

[patent mango]

psyker melee is good cara dmg anyways

[gray juniper]

Yea but not versatile for the crowd we were fighting

[tulip kettle]

yeah for sure if hes set up for it but he had fgs and assail and is learning

[patent mango]

idk its better than the crusher i was usin

[tulip kettle]

LOL

[gray juniper]

Ty

[patent mango]

crusher is really nice tho ngl

[tulip kettle]

you running skullcrusher on arb

[patent mango]

yuh

[tulip kettle]

yes thats my point

[gray juniper]

Like I said not much for point for what I had

[tulip kettle]

its like god tier into that modifer with a crusher and carapace

[patent mango]

its ok getting overheaded is a core part of psyker gameplay

[gray juniper]

Person on voidblast had the specials targeted faster than assail could be wiped out. Probably a better plan tbh

[tulip kettle]

assail is just not good

its only use is to keep your peril up and weave into hordes

[gray juniper]

A few of those I straight up dodged tho and it was a curve ball drop

Like wtf

[analog agate]

You guys met a good vb player? Rare indeed

[tulip kettle]

i mainly play VB

usually blazing but as it was melee i bought rending shock

[gray juniper]

That’s the one tweak that sut suggested that gives me problems on style. I can walker clear then focus on gunners etc with long gaze

[tulip kettle]

generally with the build you have, you want to be using FGS and assail to clear hordes, i like to run a bistol with unyielding and cara to plink bosses, bulwarks and crushers, everything else your goal is to get close to it and bop it

[patent mango]

i'd say it has 3 uses... except they're literally only useful in havoc

1. staggering ragers
2. horde clear for malefic momentum
3. gunner obliteration

[tulip kettle]

i mean in havoc i think you just cant run assail tbh

at 40 anyway

[patent mango]

thats where its best

staggering ragers with it is soooo easy

[tulip kettle]

right

and then you get the unstaggerable modifier

and you die

[patent mango]

lmao

thats when you lock in

got deflec for that anyways

[tulip kettle]

i dont run dflector

[patent mango]

i mean kinetic deflec

[tulip kettle]

or that

[patent mango]

oh

[gray juniper]

The shield thing makes sense

[patent mango]

i mean i'd say assail is only useful in havoc imo

[tulip kettle]

id say its useful in everything below damnation

[gray juniper]

That guy tanner made his bubble build suggestion using battle meditation before the patch. Does that still hold up?

[tulip kettle]

and in damn its still good on gunker / meleeker to clear hordes and stuff

[patent mango]

the problem with up to auric is that i can just stab everyone lol

[tulip kettle]

i can send you a build for havoc

but in 40s in pubs the game is played a specific way

[patent mango]

just move back when boss spawns

[tulip kettle]

you have a role to fulfill

[patent mango]

and you should be ok

[tulip kettle]

as does everyone

generally if you are plying psyker people will expect you to bring a flamer and bubble shield

[patent mango]

that build isnt even fun imo

[tulip kettle]

with a group from here you dont have to but in pubs thats the meta

yes its not fun

but havoc 40 isnt fun

[patent mango]

in pubs i went gunker anyways

havoc 40 is fun tho

[gray juniper]

That’s wild

[patent mango]

below is uh less fun cause of the derank

cant goof around :(

[tulip kettle]

it is wild

[patent mango]

idk people dont usually need bubble in my experience

[tulip kettle]

the bubble is for you

[patent mango]

oh lol

[tulip kettle]

and depending on the mission they very much do

[patent mango]

dont you have empathetic evasion for gunners on inferno builds tho

they crit constantly

[tulip kettle]

right and then you have a room

that is too wide

and you cant cross it

[patent mango]

lmao

those you just speedrun past tbh

[tulip kettle]

right my dude i mean

[patent mango]

tehres that sand map with the awful big room

[gray juniper]

This is throwing me off too. Ive hated pubs over time because every round is a grueling match of inconsistency and unpredictability on what your team will do. I join a group from here and everyone is playing a part and working together but now I’m doing terrible? Makes me feel goof

[tulip kettle]

idk what to say to you

yes precisely

[patent mango]

if you dont go past it fast everyone dies LOL

[tulip kettle]

just one example

there are a number of rooms like this

[jovial juniper]

Aren't h40 immune to derank

[tulip kettle]

also on dark communion

[patent mango]

yea

in h40 you can goof around

[tulip kettle]

you need it to bounce the gas grenades

[patent mango]

below nuh uh

[tulip kettle]

as an example

[jovial juniper]

Oh I got it

You don't want to play poorly and derank the poor soul that isn't h40

[marble crater]

[patent mango]

yeah that sucks actually

[gray juniper]

I let you down master

[patent mango]

auric mael was defo a lot better post buff tho

[marble crater]

Well you gave it a try

[gray juniper]

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s fair. It’s definitely fuckin me up a lot more than it used to

[patent mango]

it defo helps with the powercreep a bit

[gray juniper]

@marble crater but I wonder why I’m the one dragging tail instead of being the glue when working with better teams because it’s inverse in pubs

And no one is working together it’s what it most often seems like

[tulip kettle]

in that game

there was 0 teamplay

and lots of trolling

[patent mango]

i dont think we had any teamwork in that match

i was just holding w

[tulip kettle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f4febb0-beff-488b-89de-4a137f7f4529/havoc-40-meta

[marble crater]

Maybe you don't take things seriously when playing with people from discord, that's usually the case

[gray juniper]

Nah that’s a farce. You guys had me covered several times

[summer prairie]

I don't know what that is, but it's not meta

[tulip kettle]

thats a build for havoc 40. It is only for havoc 40, its neither good not fun elsewhere

[marble crater]

Unless people agree to do a penance or something like that, people just fuck around

[tulip kettle]

lol everyone has their own variations but yes it very much is

[gray juniper]

But yea I was thrown off on what to do every moment

[jovial juniper]

We are calling everything meta nowadays

🗣️

[patent mango]

i mean with arbys most stuff is meta enough

[tulip kettle]

8/10 psykers will be running something extremely similar to this in pub games

some dont like souldrinker, some like empyric resolve

etc etc

[summer prairie]

well 10/10 take the second dome node and 9/10 don't go for souldrinker

and 10/10 take in fire reborn

[tulip kettle]

again

[patent mango]

i havent seen many psykers in havoc with arbys release

[tulip kettle]

its personal variation

[patent mango]

dont let the zealots know we have that

😨

[tulip kettle]

you can see how you quibbling over 3 minor nodes is not impactful to the overall build

[patent mango]

souldrinker sucks though

[tulip kettle]

in your experience

[patent mango]

its placement is just awful

[tulip kettle]

i agree

[summer prairie]

I just hate the word meta

[jovial juniper]

But souldrinker

No Sanctuary

Souldrinker is the opposite of meta

[tulip kettle]

so again guys

quibbling over getting extra tough regen inside bubble or when stuff dies from fire

is not really impactful to the overall build

[jovial juniper]

Nope

If you use meta

[summer prairie]

I think the second dome node is very impactful

[jovial juniper]

You gotta run meta

Otherwise you'd be lying

[tulip kettle]

okay were done here 🙂

[jovial juniper]

And liars are no no

Smh

[patent mango]

idk i dont really pay attention to the meta by now

[jovial juniper]

Sanctuary

[patent mango]

i just like stabbing people

[tulip kettle]

i think its very good yes

i often run it

i also often run IFR

and guess what

i would drop souldrinker to do so

but come on

[jovial juniper]

C'mon what

Meta

[tulip kettle]

im trying to help a newer psyker out with a build

[patent mango]

ig souldrinker isnt bad if you like attack speed

[jovial juniper]

And you're wasting 3 points to get Drinker

[patent mango]

not wasting if u like AS

[tulip kettle]

exactly

[jovial juniper]

It's a dueling sword inferno set up

You don't need attack speed

[patent mango]

thats true true

[tulip kettle]

the duelling sword has shred and youre running EE

[patent mango]

but you can always use other melees with that build

[tulip kettle]

you kind of do want attack speed

and crit chance

so hey

[jovial juniper]

You're running shred on dueling sword

DS has Riposte

[tulip kettle]

it does

but often you cant actually proc it

[jovial juniper]

Except you can

[tulip kettle]

because everything close to you is getting staggered so much

[patent mango]

the duration is 6s tho

its pretty good

[tulip kettle]

oh it is

[jovial juniper]

And you have EE

[patent mango]

i use it on fgs too

[tulip kettle]

but again thats why I like shred

[patent mango]

shred is ok i just dont like the blessings that disappear on miss

[tulip kettle]

for those moments im just mindlessly lmbing random poxes

[patent mango]

thats just annoyig

[tulip kettle]

cant argue with that

but this is all personal taste stuff

[patent mango]

i think wrath disappears on miss too actually

but its for hordes and you wont miss during those lol

[tulip kettle]

overall, take bubble and inferno and crits with EE in pubs

[jovial juniper]

In havoc 💀

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[patent mango]

i mean yeah

why not

[tulip kettle]

below havoc 30 and everything else its w/e u want

[jovial juniper]

You're hitting a single poxer

"Havoc 40 meta"

[patent mango]

i keep forgetting this is about ds

[tulip kettle]

doesnt have to bs DS

could be knife

[patent mango]

oh god

[jovial juniper]

Which you'd take Riposte

Because it doesn't have shred

[tulip kettle]

probably

[jovial juniper]

Man

[patent mango]

do people enjoy knife i cant get used to it

[jovial juniper]

Just however named that

Yeah

[tulip kettle]

honestly

[jovial juniper]

Change the name

[tulip kettle]

i just cant ever enjoy it over DS

[patent mango]

ds needs the parry so bad

[tulip kettle]

on psyker anyway

[patent mango]

it needs smth to it

[tulip kettle]

i think if they gave the catachan swords a bit more dmg and pen on their overhead strikes

[patent mango]

when will dclaw be good enough

[tulip kettle]

they would actually compete with DS and people would run them

[patent mango]

its been like 2 buffs to it

[tulip kettle]

i would

[patent mango]

its just never enough

[tulip kettle]

one of my most memorable games from nearly a year ago was with cata sword

[jovial juniper]

FS keeps refusing to address the badflakosis

It has been buffed like 5 times so far

No changes to flak

[tulip kettle]

trapped in a small room last man in a pub with a burgle and a million ragers

[patent steeple]

have you considered running a ranged weapon with good carapace armour damage with dclaw?

[tulip kettle]

parried my way to victory

yes

but then thats not what i want it for

[patent mango]

what ranged does good cara again

[jovial juniper]

Zarona

Bistol

[tulip kettle]

on psyker? revolver

bistol

yes

those

[jovial juniper]

That's it

[patent mango]

bistol isnt too great for it from whati remember

[patent steeple]

EK as well

[jovial juniper]

[patent mango]

revolver does work tho

[summer prairie]

you'll run out of ammo after the first armor pack in h40

[jovial juniper]

It's the closest to Bolter that psyker has

[vestal trench]

if i wanna get into havoc is it better to get comfortable auric maelstroms first or should i just jump in

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[patent mango]

just jump in

[tulip kettle]

its a whole different game

[patent mango]

auric mael is too different

[tulip kettle]

and low havoc is nothing like high havoc

[thorn cedar]

Just hit them with your sword, it's nbd

[jovial juniper]

Or just keep smacking it until it dies

[vestal trench]

road to rank 1 lets go

[jovial juniper]

"every weapon can kill carapace" type beat

[thorn cedar]

It's true tho

[jovial juniper]

Well yes

But is it worth it

[vestal trench]

oh and since havoc has reduced hp im guessing i need to get more health curios for the 201 breakpoint 😩

[thorn cedar]

Yes

[fresh reef]

get gazed at, idiot

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[patent mango]

i'd go for all toughness in havoc

[thorn cedar]

The harder the squeeze, the sweeter the juice.

[patent mango]

ranged enemies actually do dmg there

[thorn cedar]

On Psyker?

I don't.

[patent mango]

fr?

[thorn cedar]

Three curios and three toughness perks barely puts you over 100. It's pretty wasted.

[tulip kettle]

3 toughness gets you over the 100 threshold usually

[patent mango]

theres a specific threshold?

[tulip kettle]

without 3 youll be 92-98

well no but 100 nice number

no matter what

if you get hit

[thorn cedar]

I just do HP and crutch on someone bringing gold toughness tbh

[tulip kettle]

you will be taking hp dmg

[thorn cedar]

And stamina

[cosmic sigil]

Akshually agrip revolver with crucian and trickshooter...

[patent mango]

meh cant always expect golden toughness

surprisingly

maybe vets are just going extinct

[vestal trench]

blame arbites

[thorn cedar]

I still can't personally accept sinking three curio mainstats and perks into making my 45 base toughness into maybe 100

[vestal trench]

gut them pigs fr

[tulip kettle]

i think its fine if youre running KD

if you dont 1 stam is good

[patent mango]

stam isnt really needed for fgs

or recon las

which is whar i use

[tulip kettle]

and i lso think taking corruption resist on at least one is very worth it

[thorn cedar]

Man I did that math once

[patent mango]

i forgor corrupt resist exists

[thorn cedar]

But you can survive a mauler overhead with the right combo of hp and corres

[tulip kettle]

ive had a noticeably better time since i put it on

[thorn cedar]

You'll still go down. But you won't be instantly be sent to respawn.

[patent mango]

havoc is so silly

[tulip kettle]

its just a punishing grind

its not fun

is my take

[thorn cedar]

It's absolutely fun lol

[patent mango]

meh getting to h40 hasnt been too bad for me at all

[tulip kettle]

and if one person doesnt want to play properly you will just lose

unless you have oggys

and then its w/e

[patent mango]

i've just been playing 4 arbys usually

we win most of the time

[tulip kettle]

right well thats different

arby is just broken

[patent mango]

lool

[thorn cedar]

Anything under Havoc 30 nowadays feels like I'm punching holes through wet paper. There's no weight to the enemy presence.

[patent mango]

same

[tulip kettle]

i agree with that to an extent

[patent mango]

actually i think h30 is still decent

but below is just no pushback

[tulip kettle]

but also stop playing arb

[thorn cedar]

I WANT to be stuck in by hordes.

[patent mango]

nope

playing arby until h40

then i can play whatever

[tulip kettle]

i mean ...

you say all of this but have not cleared 40

im confused

[patent mango]

oh i have cleared like

4 h40 matches on arbys so far?

it jujst hasnt gotten me to h40 personal rank

am 36...

[tulip kettle]

oh i see

[patent mango]

i had a hecking bugged double ritual oncec

[thorn cedar]

H40 I admit is more sweat than fun. Which is why I derank myself constantly.

[patent mango]

i didnt know that just happens??

[tulip kettle]

its every time

on the sand map with rituals

where you go up the lift

[thorn cedar]

Yeah and on some others.

[patent mango]

wasnt on sand

[tulip kettle]

you can actually stop it if you clear the one at the top immediately and then all shoot the one down on the right

thats the only one i know that is force triggered

[patent mango]

i wonder if i have a clip of it

1s

[frail escarp]

man i just did my first 23 and i sweat my ass off xD

[thorn cedar]

On Excise Vault there'll be a cultist just standing all alone trying to ritual a box for some reason.

[frail escarp]

but im guessing ppl who git good do them pretty easy

[thorn cedar]

It's very funny.

[patent mango]

it depends on teammates a lot

they also get better as u go higher

[tulip kettle]

yup, you either play as a team and all move together, or lose

[frail escarp]

yeah im new to havoc but every time ppl start lone wolfing around it gets super tough

[tulip kettle]

my personal take is that psyker should set the pace and everyone should stick to them

but thats often not how it goes in pubs

[thorn cedar]

My major gripe for Havocs is just pub mental being so poor. I don't care if you fuck up and die because the entire game mode exists to be punishing, but I do care if you instantly quit when you go down. That's real bitch behavior.

[tulip kettle]

i wholeheartedly agree

[frail escarp]

ppl still insta quit in havoc?

[tulip kettle]

its not over with 3

[frail escarp]

😐

[tulip kettle]

we cleared a 37 yesterday with 3 and a bot the whole way

[patent mango]

i dont have double ritual clips

[thorn cedar]

Best games are you and three random failing three+ times to score one win.

[ripe obsidian]

A lot of the difficulty in Havoc is bad seeds. Like, dreg/gunner seeds suck. A lot. Pox gas everywhere and gunners everywhere.

Example: our last three H40 attempts

[tulip kettle]

people need patience and to follow the routes

there are set routes through the level and if you take a shortcut the director will punish you

imo

[ripe obsidian]

And then add Pox-hardened skin and rampage, and enemies take 25% ranged damage, so gunners you just can't kill

[strong gulch]

Yeah. It felt bad.

[hearty wolf]

@ripe obsidian you going to work now?

[strong gulch]

Plus the map had a lot of open space for them to shoot u

[hearty wolf]

I still think they were all very winnable

[tulip kettle]

with a coordinated team you always just go back

[hearty wolf]

I think it's just cos of splitting up we died

[ripe obsidian]

Is holiday, no work. Am doing a puzzle with my partner.

[tulip kettle]

clear all the non shooters by baiting them round a corner

[patent mango]

i gotta get h40 by now but i've been playing rogue trader lex imperialis lmao

[tulip kettle]

then push with bubble and book

[patent mango]

aaa

[hearty wolf]

Ah, enjoy!

[cunning plinth]

penetrating flame recommended at all on the inferno staff or just go for blaze and crit always

[hearty wolf]

bubble and book

[strong gulch]

That is so wholesome. I'm crying.

[patent mango]

bubble and book have gone extinct

[tulip kettle]

i just said

[hearty wolf]

either way

they;re cringe

[tulip kettle]

with a coordinated team

[hearty wolf]

cringe team

[tulip kettle]

like either you want to pass the mission or you want to play a fun build

[patent mango]

you can win either way idk

[hearty wolf]

something something mutually exclusive

L take

[patent mango]

as long as you stick together its usually alright

[tulip kettle]

i agree with that too

[sullen rapids]

damn lucky. i got stuck with a 10h today 😭

[patent mango]

any1 wnana havoc in a bit?

[hearty wolf]

if u beg

[strong gulch]

PF is fine. Nexus + blazeaway is better.

BUT if you don't like to peril edge and use bubble so you are not as dependent on crits, PF + blaze away begins to have more value. The brittleness from PF also stacks on top of other sources.

[patent mango]

not happening

[hearty wolf]

smh

will probably do one after this Nightreign game

[frail escarp]

what melee do you guys rock with inferno in havoc? i see a lot of ppl use the force sword with deflector, is it a big defensive upgrade?

compared to duelling, or ppl just dont use duelling bc they are so good they dont want to play the meta

[patent mango]

??????

what do you mean -1???

[proper osprey]

Me personally i don’t like deflector, the obscurus and knife are really good to pair with inferno

I’d use uncanny riposte

Or if I’m melee psyker uncanny slaughter

[frail escarp]

i see, i guess i can just give it a try and see how it feels

i guess knife would be nice so i could run aways even faster 😄

[modest perch]

so i guess theyre just never gonna fix the silent bursters

like why even have the sound on at this point

[patent mango]

ok i found a h39 lool

[vestal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-beggar-gif-19761345

[paper harbor]

Did you do event?

4000 Diamantine

[patent steeple]

I did that, and almost immediately got back down to under 2000 Diamantine...

[sinful peak]

how are yall so broke

[paper harbor]

We don’t spent too much mission spam for 50+ times

Because that give us burn out

Also nobody will do collect materials

So we have to do our parts

[ripe obsidian]

Oof. I'm sorry to hear that

I worked retail for ~10 years, so I know that pain

Also, @hearty wolf @strong gulch I am back. Chronic illness stuff has paused puzzling

[hearty wolf]

Aw :/

I can hop on i suppose

[ripe obsidian]

Only if ye wish to

I can do other things

[hearty wolf]

I need my revenge

for my ego

[strong gulch]

Oof. I hope the chronic illness stuff chills out.

I am busy now tho.

[hearty wolf]

:o

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you. It's rough today.

[marble crater]

Good luck

[hearty wolf]

Sec, toilet

Waiting for partner to respond but she seems to be broken

[ripe obsidian]

No rush. I'm just hanging out

[vestal trench]

already went through that LOL

just had an arbites hoarding all the ammo so i took matters into my own hands (barrel to buy some time to take the ammo)

[hearty wolf]

You need to do havoc

[paper harbor]

You ate all diamantine like hungry hound

[vestal trench]

fuck 12 but it's the grimdarkness of the 41st millenium fr fr

[vestal trench]

i'll start trying later lol i finally maxed more or less everything i wanted to on psyker

[hearty wolf]

Wicked

[vestal trench]

ok NOW ive maxed everything i want to

LMAO

[patent mango]

nice

[marble crater]

I wish I could give you people some of my mats

[vestal trench]

lightning mcqueen ahh pistol skin

[vestal trench]

if only 😔 ✊

oh well, more motivation to get mats from havoc caches or something

i also got overheaded by 4 silent crushers

the psyker experience

[tulip kettle]

i think mortis trials can be good for mats

im not sure tho

seems like it as it doesnt take very long

[strong gulch]

yeah mortis seems good. idk how much you get from that vs missions but you also don't have to runn around the map

[vestal trench]

breh the arbites hoarding all the ammo and rushing ahead had the clearance level 35 insignia

i am not built for havoc

never tried mortis tho

i'll give it a shot

[tulip kettle]

its fun

[hearty wolf]

You're ready

[patent mango]

ok cleareance h37

[strong gulch]

you were fine last time we did havoc

just actually pay attention to where team is and you've have way won.

I say actually because that is one of my weaknesses 💀

[vestal trench]

are pubs just miserable then? jesus

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, pubs are fine

I do 40s with pubs regularly.

[vestal trench]

i'd develop alcoholism if i took a shot for every arbites player who rushes ahead and leaves me with the horde

[vestal trench]

mood

is there a setting for better outlines

my eyes aint built for this 😩

[proper osprey]

Sorry was me

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/39

[vestal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-aaron-paul-jesse-pinkman-gasoline-gas-gif-17380263

[marble crater]

I should play havoc after many months of not

[vestal trench]

ig i'll start lookin into installin mods fr later?

[proper osprey]

I also bring melee psyker with gaze, assail, and tac axe into 40s

[marble crater]

Ask AgentChaos, he has all the best cheats mods

[patent mango]

real meta is just using EVERY mod

[ripe obsidian]

I tried the tacaxe. Did not like it. Feels weird.

[patent mango]

wouldnt even be able to see any gameplay

[proper osprey]

Guh

[ripe obsidian]

Guh yourself

[hearty wolf]

Lowkey think it's sort of the issue on the past runs

not necessarily you

but like

team is not with psyker

psyker alone

that problem existed

@ripe obsidian ok

r

[sturdy reef]

what mark

[ripe obsidian]

Tried VII and IV

[hearty wolf]

any other havocers?

[sturdy reef]

sure

[hearty wolf]

wicked

1 more?

[marble crater]

Me me

[hearty wolf]

frfr?

[patent mango]

`dyude

havoc just spawned

[marble crater]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

I am online. Invite me to things. I will be Psyker and burninate

[patent mango]

EVERY boss

LOL

[proper osprey]

Buh

[hearty wolf]

gang all has been invited

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045852153295687781

[vestal trench]

i respect it, i dont think ive been able to do a downless auric on gun psyker yet lmfao

enjoyed tac axe but i miss the reliability fgs had on crushers so i swapped back

[prime elk]

Taxe dps shouldn’t be too bad on crusher

If you have SG and DD

[vestal trench]

yea i feel we've had that convo before

i just find fgs more reliable

less gambling

[prime elk]

Prob lol

FGS is pretty reliable but the dodges are quite bad

[gray juniper]

When we did havoc 23 we had a double captain spawn with a beast of nurgle then a plague orgyn after one of the bosses died. Around another corner we had two more captain spawns and another plague ogryn. Nothing unordinary before hand. I don’t know why we earned that

[vestal trench]

tbh it might also just be me being slow with the l->h->special combo

@ tac axe

[patent mango]

got that PEAK variety

[prime elk]

I was talking to ainz last night and apparently the optimal mk 7 single target combo is simply light spam lol

I checked and that does look right.

So try that instead

[vestal trench]

hordes is still PA -> heavy -> light yeah?

or just pa heavy

[prime elk]

Or PA heavy yeah

[hearty wolf]

we won all of the games I remembered playing

the dream team

[sturdy reef]

lol

[strong gulch]

We know what the problem was then.

Congrats!

[ripe obsidian]

Wot's the blessing/perk setup for obscurus? I'm gonna try building one

[marble crater]

There were no problems, I remember it the same way

[strong gulch]

Ainz does unyielding block eff and deflector + uncanny

idk about the block eff

[marble crater]

Don't need block eff, if you never block

[hearty wolf]

nuh we absolutely CRUISED through the first one

then something happened

[marble crater]

Nothing happened

[hearty wolf]

ah yes

[ripe obsidian]

And it's H > L for single target and L > H for hordes?

[vestal trench]

heavy light light for single target

l->h hordes

[strong gulch]

ye

HLL for single

[sturdy reef]

uncanny/deflector or slaughterer

[mental mist]

Is Psykinetic's aura good?

[jovial juniper]

Too good

[marble crater]

Yes, one of our best talents

[ripe obsidian]

Gotcha. So what will actually happen is I will spam lights or heavies as I try to survive, then think afterward, "I should have gone H > L > L!"

[sturdy reef]

you can also do H > L repeat

since l2 also chains back to H1 iirc

[ripe obsidian]

I have crashed my game by dying in the Psykhanium

[strong gulch]

Yes. My first time using it since it was changed was in your meme H40 run. I couldn't clear hordes at all. lmao

[hearty wolf]

xd

The cursed sword

It seems the requirement to overcome bad positioning has a higher skill/gear requirement than I thought

I just wanna vibe and bonk things though

[ripe obsidian]

I can see the benefit of Obscurus. It does a lot of damage.

But in this case, at least, I usually swap to melee when I am in trouble

So I feel like Deimos for the defensive poke fits me better

[prisma hinge]

it's beautiful

[long wharf]

not until you upgrade it

[prisma hinge]

(the fact that it's a dumpstat 60 warp is what i care most for

the other is a dumpstat 60 mobility

i'm assuming unyielding and flak are the perks

i'm thinking deflector and precog for the blessings?

[long wharf]

you generally don't use Illisi on unyielding

[zinc comet]

Slaughter deflector

Apparently

[long wharf]

deflector is one choice, but you really want slaughterer

[prisma hinge]

slaughterer deflector

[long wharf]

I don't remember if that sword gets shred

you definitely want a crit blessing with slaughterer

your best survivability as a psyker is Empathic Evasion

not blocking

[marble crater]

I use flak and maniac, you won't be attacking a lot of unyielding enemies with an illisi

[long wharf]

especially since deflector doesn't help with picking people up off the ground

not any more

man those were glorious weeks

[marble crater]

But kinetic deflection does

[long wharf]

nope

[marble crater]

Picking someone up in the middle of the horde? No problem

[patent mango]

I LOVE DARKTIDE SERVERS!!!!!! I LOVE HOW STABLE THEY ARE!!!!

[long wharf]

well yes, against melee

[patent mango]

HELP!!!!

[long wharf]

just not ranged

[prisma hinge]

obviously will upgrade more but peak?

[long wharf]

which is the only reason to even consider taking deflection

[marble crater]

I sense sarcasm

[patent mango]

heLPP HELPP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[marble crater]

I can't

Used up all my skill for today

[patent mango]

go to fatshark and fix their servers fr

[marble crater]

Sweden is too far away

[patent mango]

nooo

[marble crater]

I would have to cross like 2 borders

[long wharf]

but online, it'll likely only be, like, 3 firewalls

[marble crater]

I'm not that tech savvy

On Monday I will have to set up a new PC and that will take all my knowledge

[long wharf]

oh? what're you setting up?

[marble crater]

I'm getting an old office work PC to replace my 12 year old PC I have now, so nothing fancy at all, but definitely better what I have now

[long wharf]

an old office workstation is better than your PC?

[marble crater]

[long wharf]

for gaming?

[marble crater]

I play on Xbox

[strong gulch]

probably still has windows 95 or XP.

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-chris-farley-letdown-disappointing-ugh-gif-9236077

[marble crater]

Jokes on you, it doesn't have an OS at all, I need to install it

[upper sun]

what happened

where were you playing

[upper sun]

dawg im pretty sure your Xbox has an OS otherwise it wont start

[marble crater]

the new PC

[upper sun]

ah

[marble crater]

Well, new to me

[upper sun]

those dell towers are peak

[patent mango]

havoc

lol

[marble crater]

It's an upgrade and it's free, I won't complain

[upper sun]

with who?

[patent mango]

randoms

[upper sun]

🤔

should be same region then

[strong gulch]

I think... I think I got to the end of abiotic factor for now. 😭

[marble crater]

The what now

[upper sun]

i think its an illness

stay strong potato o7

[long wharf]

it most certainly is

[marble crater]

Sorry, I don't know illnesses

[patent mango]

update is soon lol

[strong gulch]

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[upper sun]

oh

[strong gulch]

really??

[marble crater]

It was not an illness, thanks for making me feel bad, clad...

[upper sun]

I FUCKING LOVE SCP COPIES

[patent mango]

18 days?

[strong gulch]

Grounded 2 is coming out soon.

[marble crater]

Why aren't you playing DARKTIDE this is the DARKTIDE discord?

[upper sun]

mass effect

[patent mango]

abf is just that peak

[marble crater]

I'm also playing BG3, but shush

[gray juniper]

What are the causes of smooth gaming no lag then sudden lag/frame drop that drags on?

[marble crater]

Xbox issue

[strong gulch]

Maybe I will. 😤

[long wharf]

no lie, Mass Effect 3 MP was a great mode

still holds up today

[upper sun]

yup

[gray juniper]

Console cucked forever

[upper sun]

so sad it wasnt in the legendary edition

[marble crater]

Sounds like the problem we had a lot last year, hopefully it's not back, I can't do this again

[strong gulch]

I went to the community hub and saw this.

[long wharf]

I still play the MP on PC occassionally

[upper sun]

i think some fucking ceo thought people hated the MP but in reality they hated the fact that it gated the resources for single player

[long wharf]

no, nobody thought people hated the MP

[upper sun]

I played hours of the multiplayer demo it was so good

[patent mango]

lmao

slop soup

[upper sun]

why isnt it included in the legendary edition?

[long wharf]

because ME3 was hardly touched in the LE

LE was a minimal effort update

[upper sun]

🚬 nothing was touched

they didnt even add an option to remove pop ups and hints for mass effect 2

[long wharf]

and standing up servers for the MP wasn't in their budget

[upper sun]

cant they just use the same ME3 servers since its the same game?

[long wharf]

I mean, in my mind I think they could

[upper sun]

they prolly didnt even care

[long wharf]

the UX for the MP on PC is awful

[upper sun]

ME1 is missing one dlc

UX devs are all flunkies

[long wharf]

and people playing a newly released version on Steam would want a better experience

[upper sun]

i have yet to use a website/app made in the last 5 years that doesnt have garbage UI

[long wharf]

I mean, that's largely due to a lack of care for UX

rather than having a shitty UX engineer

[upper sun]

you've seen the mission terminal now?

[zinc tartan]

My greatsword is ready! Any recommendations for perks and blessings?

[upper sun]

hell i sent a very lengthy very rude message to spotify support because they fucked up podcasts for 2 weeks before undoing the change

[long wharf]

Warp resistance is above 30, sell and start over

[upper sun]

yeah change perks and blessings 😭

unyielding/maniac/carap and shred/unstable/deflector

[zinc tartan]

Thanks!

[long wharf]

in all honesty, having as low warp resistance as you can get is meta for the fgs

one charge takes me from 0 to 46% peril

[pulsar trout]

Wait why do you want low warp resistance?

[long wharf]

because you ride the warp

[zinc comet]

High peril is good

[mint matrix]

what's wrong with riposte?

[upper sun]

for unstable power and warp rider

[pulsar trout]

Ohhh okay

[long wharf]

it maximizes the damage you do with the special

and the special isn't something you spam

[zinc comet]

Yeah but not having a weapon maxxed out is visually unsatisfying

[upper sun]

its not bad but other things are kinda better more guarenteed

[zinc comet]

So pick your poison

[long wharf]

I just wish the special charged on enemies the special killed

it irks me that it doesn't

[upper sun]

bro wants an infinite feedback loop for havoc

[long wharf]

why not?

I'm already managing my peril

[upper sun]

fair point

roll it out

[pulsar trout]

Oh I did want to ask something about the psyker abilities, is there a reason to bring venting shriek over the bubble shield?

[long wharf]

I'm not a fan of having a second charge meter to worry about as a psyker

[pulsar trout]

I've tried it a bit and there's been so many times I've gone "God I wish I could put a shield up right now"

[zinc tartan]

Its so pretty! Thanks for the suggestion!

[mint matrix]

shriek outputs alot of soulblaze stacks

and knocks things over

[long wharf]

just wait until you have so many times where you go "God I wish I could stop myself from exploding right now"

or "God I wish I could knock things over through walls"

[pulsar trout]

Fair

[long wharf]

or "God I wish I could light literally everything in front of me on warpfire"

[pulsar trout]

I've never really had a problem with managing my warp level but I also haven't managed to properly get above difficulty 3 yet so 🙃

I think I got back into the game after they introduced the new difficulty unlock thing so I had to do all that again

[ripe obsidian]

More peril more better, generally. Unless you're at 100%. Then you pop.

[mint matrix]

more peril = more damage = more things dead

[upper sun]

anyone up for a night cap?

[long wharf]

and with how easy it is to drop peril, having a reliable way to get to max peril quickly means staying near maximum damage output more frequently

[upper sun]

NO HAVOC

[zinc comet]

What’s a night cap

[upper sun]

a game before bed

[long wharf]

it's traditionally a drink right before bed

a drink to end your night

[upper sun]

@hearty wolf you in or out

eww the maelstrom is I-E

[mental mist]

Warp unbound + empowered smite is pretty fun

[marble crater]

Noooo

[deft stump]

Ppl were telling others that Empowered Smite is the best way to play psyker earlier general.

[long wharf]

seriously?

those poor teammates

[deft stump]

Yeah.

Guy asked for easy to play build for psyker.

[long wharf]

sigh

I mean, it is "easy"

[deft stump]

Got smite, empowered smite, inf smite suggestions.

[long wharf]

but everyone else will hate you

and you'll slow down the game/run

[deft stump]

More so than just dying 12 times in a run.

[mental mist]

Does warp splitting affect smite?

[patent mango]

naww empowered smite is fun its intense like cookie clicker

[mental mist]

Assail is like cookie clicker

Click click click

[jovial juniper]

No

It's +cleave

If it was -mass

Damn it would be good

[long wharf]

this is how you know you're Assailing wrong

just spamming assail is incredibly inefficient

[mental mist]

Does smite not benefit from cleave?

[jovial juniper]

No

[long wharf]

nope

[jovial juniper]

Basically infinite cleave

[long wharf]

it's not cleave at all

[mental mist]

Ok thanks

[long wharf]

it hits up to a certain number of enemies, period

based on the number of allowed hops

it's not a collision/aoe calculation at all

[jovial juniper]

Do you know the number of enemies?

[long wharf]

not off the top of my head

[jovial juniper]

Because as far as we tested

[long wharf]

30? 40?

[jovial juniper]

It just didn't hit a cap

[marble crater]

A lot

[long wharf]

I could look at the code

but I'm not going to right now, busy

[jovial juniper]

Yeah as far as we know it just keeps going

[long wharf]

blurgh, I'll look, hold on

[deft stump]

I sense deja vu.

[long wharf]

there is a limit, but it's not a hard-coded number in the Lua

it comes out of action settings for the smite action

[mental mist]

Does the +1 jump for smite add more than one additional target?

[deft stump]

It's like another wave.... Think like Monkey King's ult ring. Wait, you might not play DOTA... Uhhh... Think like it can chain from the second target to another... So it's actually massive.

[long wharf]

I'm not quickly finding the action settings for chain lightning

[sinful peak]

psykering

[long wharf]

there's references to max_jumps, but I'm not finding the source value

[pearl viper]

does the 4000 penance point psyker mask add a rebreather sound filter to the psyker’s voice or is it just like the zealot cowl that does barely anything to the voice?

[jovial juniper]

Are you going to find that smite doesn't really have a limit because Fatshark forgot to implement it

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

That would be hilarious

[pearl viper]

i ate the limit sorry

[jovial juniper]

And another proof that FS doesn't really care about smite

[long wharf]

okay, it looks like the max_targets and max_jumps are per enemy hit

not a global limit on the number of enemies affected by chain lightning

[stone totem]

I think Fatshark might be concerned about 99% of the psyker playerbase that doesn't have the sauce

[long wharf]

in scripts/settings/equipmentweapon_templates/grenades/psyker_chain_lightning

[stone totem]

Casual psyker players will revolt harder than the ds copers if it is nerfed or turned into anything but brain-off blitz

[random thunder]

is assail good?

[stone totem]

Amazing

It carries my horrific dclaw revolver build

[random thunder]

any breakpoints to hit ?

[stone totem]

Now that I don't know

I usually just spam with Scrier's and everything but armor and boss dies

[random thunder]

which difficulty do you play on

[long wharf]

assail is more affected by how you optimize your usage

spamming shards isn't the way to get the most out of assail

[jovial juniper]

So it just keeps going

[long wharf]

it would appear so

[jovial juniper]

Fair and balanced

[stone totem]

Auric @random thunder

[jovial juniper]

[long wharf]

there's directionality to target discovery

but not a hard limit on number of targets hit overall

[mental mist]

Is the surge staff considered viable?

[random thunder]

hmm did my first auric today I sucked but the 3 arbiters weren't killing ranged and specials

[paper harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1390843500668522658/20250704-2348-43.1280657.mp4?ex=6869bb73&is=686869f3&hm=56b7553e124017257c37a07ccb812190ddfbaa0fcf9d4ab6947b56a3f3a86456&

[long wharf]

so, +1 targets to smite is actually +1 to the number of jumps per enemy hit

[deft stump]

Because they expect doggo to.

[long wharf]

the result will be how quickly you get a crowd to stagger

[random thunder]

yeah well i'm getting melted in the meantime

[deft stump]

So, it just stuns an even bigger area pretty much.

[stone totem]

A good arby is correct in this expectation because they assign the dog frequently

[random thunder]

if assail can fix that i'd love it

[deft stump]

More, doggo go pounce, BOOM.

[long wharf]

no, the way the code works it's about how many jumps from each target

but with hordes, you have crowd density that makes that essentially meaningless

[deft stump]

It can, but mixed might be annoying. Will totally clean up hordes.

[long wharf]

so, it's more about how quickly you get the crowd under effect, as the number of jumps you get is affected by how long you're holding down smite

[random thunder]

I want to use electro staff and maybe greatsword

[long wharf]

the code is actually pretty messy

conceptually, there's a difference between "maximum targets" and "maximum jumps"

[jovial juniper]

Peak Fatshark right there

[long wharf]

but in reality, there isn't

because each target can then jump from there

[deft stump]

Yes, I'm trying to say is...It stuns more in a fan shape. Starts with one, and goes on to target 2-3 more and the next one chains another 2-3 more.

[random thunder]

had no idea assail was for hordes tho

[mental mist]

So +1 smite jump good or bad?

[jovial juniper]

Good

[long wharf]

good

it'll speed up how quickly you make things dance funny

[deft stump]

Good, but it makes your team hate you even more.

[long wharf]

if you're slow walking through the mission holding down smite, you're already reviled

go ahead and lean into that

[random thunder]

psykers are reviled regardless sibling

[long wharf]

not necessarily

[mental mist]

I only use smite with one empower charge during warp unbound window

[long wharf]

bad psykers, yes

but of all the players I've played with and seen, the best have been psykers

taking full advantage of venting shriek and trauma can be godly

[random thunder]

when I help people up they tell me not to touch them

seems pretty reviled to me

[long wharf]

well, lore-wise, yes

but we're talking about players, not lore

[vestal trench]

wait, efficient assail use isnt just spamming it into a horde for malefic/high peril buffs? 💀

i find it helps with that and gunner clusters

almost never use the right click aimed one 💀

[random thunder]

how to use efficiently

[long wharf]

you expect a shard to hit 2~3 heads with proper aim

and you let it do so before you throw more

because spamming shards quickly means increasing the odds that a shard will kill an enemy that another is also targetting

[random thunder]

how to aim properly ?

[long wharf]

forcing the other shard to change targets as you change targets

[random thunder]

just aim head?

[vestal trench]

do you aim specifically for the head or above the heads?

[long wharf]

almost

start above and then adjust your aim down

[vestal trench]

ive been aiming like a half inch or so above the horde and doing bursts of 3 lmao

[long wharf]

because you don't have perfect control over the initial direction of the shard

[vestal trench]

i'll space it out more then

[long wharf]

I try to space my shards out

and don't be shy about aiming harder hitting shards at specialists

[random thunder]

yall using the assails buff nodes?

[vestal trench]

right click shards hit harder? i always thought it was just a quasi ads 😭

[long wharf]

nope

they do something like 35% more damage

[random thunder]

yeah it deals like 115 more iirc

[long wharf]

and you don't have to guide them after throw

[random thunder]

left click follows crosshair?

[long wharf]

as much as the shards can

all at the same time

hence the reason to avoid spamming as fast as you can

always target the closest enemy in the group you want to hit

and guide the shards to the other enemies you want hit

often times, careful guiding lets you hit multiple heads where otherwise you wouldn't

the more lined up your multiple targets are, the easier it is for a shard to hit them

[jovial juniper]

Ethereal Shards gets outperformed by Warp Splitting

So people stopped pick Ethereal

[long wharf]

the reason shards go flying off and stop seeking is because there wasn't a viable target within a certain delta angle off path

[patent mango]

sorry guys my laptop , , needs to update this will shut down all darktide servers until its up again

[long wharf]

aimed shards will do everything they can to hit additional targets if you aim well

[deft stump]

To be fair, to make Etheral and warp splitting work, need to extend the lifespan of it.

[minor wedge]

YES! While I do enjoy inferno psyker, my all time favorite will forever be trauma shriek

Trauma is SO good, full patrol of crushers ? Haha lol, they all fall over

Mixed Horde ? Shriek in there to clear the riffraff, kill the other shit with your trauma and meele and by the time your peril is full, another shriek is ready

absolutely godly

[ornate hamlet]

shotgun psyker is also pretty good too

[minor wedge]

Please elaborate

[patent mango]

croissant

[ornate hamlet]

scattershot gives you a lot of crit and psyker has a lot of base crit so youre like always max crit and cleave

pretty fun in mortis trials too if u get the no ammo on crit

turns the db into an mg

[amber verge]

Any tips to getting the cliffhanger penance?

[ornate hamlet]

train mission lol

[jovial juniper]

Smite juggling

[pine ore]

"i have 20 more rounds in that 5 rounds revolver cylynder"

[long vessel]

Db?

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rango-rango-2011-it-only-takes-one-bullet-revolver-rango-gun-gif-14093400642883039767

Also the way that Plogryn went flying

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explosion-shocked-boom-soda-gif-12975564783995812045

[pine ore]

my friend: "stop stop plz stop he si already dead"

[merry meteor]

I tried to share my self-made Psyker build lol, may be somebody will have some fun with it: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f4fca5c-d934-44e7-b571-444ce9f3d15f/my-jack-of-all-trades-psyker-build

any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated (will check the chat later)

[north hatch]

Mace is still skullcrusher high voltage right?

For best perks

[sharp raptor]

psyker feels so squishy compared to everything else

even vet is lightyears more forgiving

[strong gulch]

General tips. One is them is by someone who was having a lot of difficulty. #psyker-class message

How to control the direction of smite's throw. #psyker-class message

Private game eliminates fighting to get the horde.

[vast yew]

Welp, I officially only have Malleus Monstronum left

[deft stump]

Need help or something?

[vast yew]

Well I don't currently have any friends that play

[gray juniper]

We can do that

Like right now if you’re trying to

[deft stump]

I feel like you didn't get it.

I offer to help with MM lul.

[vast yew]

If you're up for it now, sure

[gray juniper]

Yea

[deft stump]

Am booting up now.

[gray juniper]

So tired of arby lobbies in maelstrom

Aw Karien youll play?

[deft stump]

More, help with mm.

Check shops after, blep.

[gray juniper]

Yes that’s great

[vast yew]

Apprciate it fellas

Should I DM my friend code to you guys then

[gray juniper]

Add from my code is more simple

Easy number

[deft stump]

Or mine.

Like I said, getting on my oggy.

[gray juniper]

Either

[vast yew]

I can't find Karien

I sent one to Medi

[gray juniper]

Probably because she’s booting

[vast yew]

oh wait

I searched in Steam not Darktide

I'm tired

[gray juniper]

It’s cool

[random thunder]

wait there's a mod like vermintide's chaos waste?

[jovial juniper]

Yesnt