psyker-class

[zinc phoenix]

If you are a staff only kinda guy you will fold under pressure. If you are very comfortable with melee on psyker you can get yourself out of almost any situation

[umbral atlas]

I'm only using assail because I like malefic momentum on force sword

[zinc phoenix]

Assail is super nice

Push bursters around, interrupt gunners and flamers, hunt specials, feed toughness, MM stacks. Lots of uses

You can even use it to bump stuff closer for stabbing while sprinting, it’s great

[spare comet]

i should probably take kd if im doing greatsword/voidblast right

[gray juniper]

Absolutely this

[fierce crest]

Inferno souldrinker has entered the chat

[spare comet]

WAIT

[zinc phoenix]

You shouldn’t use fgs with left side build imo, you need the mobility of a lighter weapon

[spare comet]

I JUST NOTICED KINETIC FLAYER

[zinc phoenix]

DS, the standard force swords, knife all very good

[spare comet]

thats kinda saucy

[zinc phoenix]

FGS is extremely slow/low mobility, right side gets it more and better dodges + the bonuses of DD

[plucky flax]

I wonder if the dog bleed actually counts for scoreboard how much it does. Gotta be a few hundred ks.

[zinc phoenix]

Does it really double stack aoe?

So you get gigaridic bleed stacks from it?

[plucky flax]

No.

Only 1 bleed.

And it's void bleed so it probably is not getting buffed from your tree and perks.

[jovial juniper]

Sometimes

You either get 8 or 16

[plucky flax]

But when it pounces onto an elite in the horde it knocks all the small guys around.

[static vessel]

is one of the psyker personalities speaking to tzeench?

[plucky flax]

And they all get bleed.

[zinc phoenix]

This is too big brain for me to comprehend

[gray juniper]

Yes and it’s really nice but it’s got a 15 second cooldown. It’s great to have and probably a requirement for left side build but a continuous problem from experience ok left side is cool downs for a lot of things

[jovial juniper]

Which is already insane btw

[jovial juniper]

Who knows

[plucky flax]

Also if that bleed kills stuff it doesnt' even show up on the kill card.

No notifcation if an elite/special died from void bleed.

[jovial juniper]

It could be a shard of the emperor

It could be a demon

[zinc phoenix]

Here is what I understand:

• doggo pounce
• mmm blood

[spare comet]

okay so

[summer prairie]

you can still farm boss bleed damage with it if you use your bpistol puncture first

[static vessel]

Huh yeah because my friend throws some guesses sometime. Guess I need to get a little deeper lore wise to make a proper interpretation. I'd like to think it was a reminder of the emperor.

[spare comet]

played some damnation with the new talents

@zinc phoenix so i don't suck

[plucky flax]

Yeah I always do.

Cos I get extra monster damage from 30 stacks anyway.

[spare comet]

it's just that build was not good

💔

[plucky flax]

So I aim to be the one to apply bleed.

[zinc phoenix]

Yes it was very obviously trash

[gray juniper]

No he’s speaking to a shard of the emperor and if you continue to insinuate otherwise, you’ll end up like his last friend

[zinc phoenix]

Shart of the Emprah very wise 🙏

[static vessel]

[spare comet]

https://tenor.com/view/kaguya-houraisan-kaguya-houraisan-exploding-bald-gif-9033487130630177120

[plucky flax]

[gray juniper]

So are you getting credit at all for pounce kills if you use dog?

[plucky flax]

Ye if it's the dog's damage.

From chewing or from electric.

[zinc phoenix]

We have pinned builds precisely to prevent people foisting garbage builds on newer players 😂

[plucky flax]

But if it's the dog's void bleed then no.

[spare comet]

@proper osprey i am sorry

your build was not the goat

💔

[spare comet]

see i'm coming over from ogryn and vet which i have a lot of experience on

i can talk all day about ogryn

but i don't know anything about psyker

[plucky flax]

I think I am sick of red modifiers now.

Too much cc immune no fun.

[proper osprey]

Check dms

[summer prairie]

that trauma tac axe build is fine

[static vessel]

why would the emperor have them see him as "their beloved"?

like being their partner

lmao

[proper osprey]

The seer

[keen cargo]

what about crit chance instead of flak with Unyielding ?

[zinc phoenix]

I can play the other classes well but don’t have the same familiarity with their tree

[proper osprey]

Yarp I revised it

[gray juniper]

I don’t think it’s meant that way

Think how real world religions will speak on their benevolent gods at times

[static vessel]

Yeah but like

[jovial juniper]

5% too little

[static vessel]

Hm.

[proper osprey]

Sorry I’ll tell them to take them out

[keen cargo]

precog and riposte then with disrupt destiny

[jovial juniper]

Now you're gambling for those 2 hits bulwark

[keen cargo]

nothing wrong with a bit of gambling hehe

[gray juniper]

It’s could go either way. The best answer is we’ll see what fatshark decide with that specific lore. It’s like 50/50 and the seer rides the lines on being good or bad himself while mostly coming off benevolent to the characters

[jovial juniper]

If you had Slaughterer and Precognition up
A special heavy CRIT to a bulwark weakspot would deal ~3.400 dmg

[gray juniper]

Shiiiiii

When you’re in a outright boxing match with a bulwark it suxks

[jovial juniper]

Without slaughterer

2400

[umbral atlas]

god it's so nice playing arbites and just being able to casually tip over bulwarks

[ripe obsidian]

Red is most frustrating of all the modifiers. Worse even than goop everywhere

[umbral atlas]

they're the main thing I swap to the voidblast staff for

[deft stump]

3 random lights, bulwark opens up.

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-morning-good-morning-gif-5903581903933326842

[umbral atlas]

especially since I build full stagger arbites, just beat on that shield like a drum

[ripe obsidian]

Where did you get this video of me

[umbral atlas]

or if I'm at an angle then full bore shotpistol to the head

[jovial juniper]

Psyker single shove from force sword

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[umbral atlas]

I keep forgetting about the charged shove ngl

[proper osprey]

@autumn smelt we suck 🥀

How do I get good

[deft stump]

By not being terrible, maybe?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

I have videos of the bleed double-stacking.

[strong gulch]

If you want to play the class, do it. You have few "I messed up" protections and have more stuff manage, but there is nothing stopping you from do psyker.

[ripe obsidian]

16 stacks instantly on multiple targets

[gray juniper]

lol yea. Played a havoc the other day and just light attack the whole time individually like a set of drums. Stun locking five bulwarks is crazy work

[proper osprey]

Sorry idk how to do dat

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1389426055047020564/tacaxefunny.mp4?ex=68649359&is=686341d9&hm=232df48596114d2804e8edd2d18dddfefc5d5355f464451126366d17ba078c45&

[marble crater]

Hi

[verbal thistle]

I don't think so

[proper osprey]

Look at this zealot clip doe

[strong gulch]

Hi

[deft stump]

Nobody believed me when I said light attack spam on Arby is funni.

[verbal thistle]

https://youtu.be/UxnRRkCieHM?si=dXDelQyz1m3KPmBl

[proper osprey]

Tac axe is soooo safe

[verbal thistle]

I did a dog only auric damn

And I only got 1 million

Where a normal run should have 1.5-2.5mil

[strong gulch]

We are twins.

[proper osprey]

Shout out to ainz and cole showing me the way of tac axe

[umbral atlas]

I've been running shock dog this whole time and I'm still only like 2/5 the way through the penance for it

[spare comet]

im still painfully squishy but swapping to pinned has made me play drastically better

[umbral atlas]

I REALLY wanna switch to voltaic mine but not until I've finished that penance...

[deft stump]

Maybe do maels when a certain modifier shows up.

[spare comet]

i think i prefer the mk8 over mk6 though

[umbral atlas]

the truth about crit psyker

[proper osprey]

@spare comet the harsh reality of melee psyker

[jovial juniper]

Can't believe those 2 are getting people into hard drugs

https://tenor.com/view/pewdiepie-9year-old-army-t-gay-congratulations-for-legal-reasons-thats-a-joke-gif-13924557

[strong gulch]

It's fine. TOTALLY FINE

[main widget]

Thanks. Currently playing Zealot. Got curious after seeing a psyker in action. If there are things I can learn from the other classes beforehand I'm willing to, though.

[north hatch]

Does full bore for the agripinaa combat shotgun apply only to the base fire or can the slug proc it too?

[main widget]

I'm brand new so I like teachable ckasses.

[strong gulch]

Imo, if you can melee as psyker, you can melee as the other classes.

[verbal thistle]

Both can proc

[gray juniper]

It took like 9 mines total on auric and.m the penance was done

[north hatch]

Good to know

[strong gulch]

You can get too used to the stam on psyker tho. There's a talent that more or less lets you opt out of stam management.

[north hatch]

Death spitter + full bore then are the recommended blessings I'm assuming?

[verbal thistle]

For agri I take no respite and full bore

For havoc I take full bore manstopper

To hit a trapper in a mixed horde

Full bore for the slug makes every slug hit procing it

[north hatch]

Kk

[gray juniper]

Saving this

[north hatch]

Flak + maniac yeah? That's what I've been using

[verbal thistle]

Uhhh

Maniac always

Then try elite/flak/unyield

It doesn't need help with flak one shots (being scab gunners)

Elite will help with ragers

Unyielding for bosses and reapers

1-2 sluts for a reaper

[north hatch]

Sluts 0.o

[strong gulch]

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch

come

[strong gulch]

keep the typo it's great

[verbal thistle]

Lol

Slugs

[strong gulch]

🫡

gonna grab coffee then load the game

[hearty wolf]

ok

[strong gulch]

how do i minimize my internet browser

got it

[north hatch]

NGL the other combat shotties still feel kinda bad but I don't have it at max level yet so i can't tell yet

I feel like they should just turn the accatran into a full on dragon's breath shotgun

[verbal thistle]

Duckbill and fire shotgun still suffer

Agri just got stronger but was already very good

[strong gulch]

VC?

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042858226770780230

[strong gulch]

Also it's storming. So power might be iffy.

[hearty wolf]

any1 else

and oki

[marble crater]

Send the storm here, plenty of rain please

[strong gulch]

you can have it

it just thunderered hard enough that someone's car alarm is going off

[marble crater]

Eh, I don't need that kind of storm. Lots of rain or no deal

[ripe obsidian]

It was a dark and stormy midday...

[strong gulch]

also night

i was so scared

[ripe obsidian]

East coast? The place I just moved from had some gnarly storms

[strong gulch]

YE

[ripe obsidian]

I was in Maryland. Had to move to Texas (eulch) for work

[strong gulch]

Then you got the same weather for a time.

[ripe obsidian]

Well, I didn't here. It rained a tiny bit. But the shelter I used to volunteer at sent out an email about it

I moved like 4 months ago. Texas is bleh.

[analog agate]

I went from Boston to Houston. Not a fan of texas. Besides the food scene

[proper osprey]

@autumn smelt maybe it’s just a skill issue on my part I can’t hit bruiser bp

[nocturne dust]

No play until much later again

[proper osprey]

With lots of gaze I can

Maybe I’m abysmal dogshit

[sinful peak]

there are too many gah damn arbites

[ripe obsidian]

Suburb of DC to Austin, here. The food is decent. Everything else is... iffy.

[keen cargo]

ok lads let's say a madman wanted to use heavy sword on psyker, which mark would be the one to go

[modest perch]

i think 9 has been the preferred version for some time

[plucky flax]

Normal idling laptop temperature

Screw this weather man.

[modest perch]

(las vegas)

[jovial juniper]

Bro's on the sun?!?!?!?

[hearty wolf]

y r u liek dis :(

[vestal trench]

do loadouts remember what mark a weapon is or do i have to get another force sword if i want one loadout to be using illisi and another using deimos 🥲

[halcyon hull]

Is Wrath + Momentum a good combo for the force greatsword? It makes sense in my mind.

[sinful peak]

what's the best boss dmg melee psyker has

[hearty wolf]

wtf who 😭

[vestal trench]

afaik, vraks iag

[sinful peak]

melee

[deft stump]

Clad blocked everyone. He blocked me twice over now.

[marble crater]

You need another force sword

[hearty wolf]

get him to triple block you

that will undo it

[vestal trench]

my plasteel and diamantine reserves are crying

[deft stump]

Hi, this is normal idle for my PC.

[hearty wolf]

you know when numbers get to high that they eventually go back to 0?

[halcyon hull]

Mortis Trials is pretty good for getting more, I find.

[marble crater]

Have you considered not being poor?

[plucky flax]

Shouldn't be normal for a pc with so much better ventilation.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/end-of-watch-locker-scene-jake-gyllenhaal-gif-8856476536569176567

[vestal trench]

i'll try that

[deft stump]

Don't ask me, it's always been that warm. There's a reason I hope we win fast since turning off the fan around it is baking in heat.

[plucky flax]

Show temp.

[deft stump]

I do. Clad will just do it anyway some day.

[ripe obsidian]

You might wanna check your thermal paste or something

[nocturne dust]

Life happens

[deft stump]

Currently I have 3 extra fans on for it.

It's only running Firefox rn anyway.

[plucky flax]

Pretty hot for idling.

For a pc.

My pc gpu idling at 33 or so.

You need more fans.

[deft stump]

The case has no room to sit another extra fan. .-.

[plucky flax]

Get better fans.

[deft stump]

And yes, it gets far worse when DT is on.

[ripe obsidian]

The EO Arbitrators I see tend to do absurd damage. I had a guy last night do something like 2m over 40 minutes versus my 1.4m on Forceful

[deft stump]

As i said, I can keep my tea warm for hours.

[deft stump]

Forceful is CC tank, not damage.

You can easily go 0 damage taken run on forceful.

Even at high ping.

[plucky flax]

Nice griefing.

[deft stump]

I mostly get damaged by idiots shooting barrels.

[deft stump]

You know what I meant.

[ripe obsidian]

you might be able to. I am bad. >:(

[plucky flax]

No I don't read minds.

No one is as pro as karien so it's normal.

Not even that unsanctioned guy.

[deft stump]

I play with lag because I play at weird hours.

[frail escarp]

hello, I've seen some versions of the inferno builds that take souldrinker and the +5% crit chance aura instead of the one pinned, what is the consensus on these? which tends to be better for survival?

[deft stump]

Stop lying and trying to gaslight. You are said UnsanctionedPsyker.

[plucky flax]

For survival probably cdr aura for more ability up time.

[jovial juniper]

Souldrinker is bad

[ripe obsidian]

The damage I take is usually one of three things: a billion gunners I didn't notice and walked into their line of fire, a crusher mass where I dodge 5 overheads and eat a sixth, or a squad of bombers that paint me into a corner

[jovial juniper]

5% ain't it for the talent to be on the opposite side of the other soulblaze talents

[plucky flax]

Simply not true but okay. I just imitate him with the same name.

[deft stump]

You just need to play more safely. I play on controller you know.

[frail escarp]

i see i see, thought maybe combined with the toughness it would be useful somehow

[plucky flax]

You should save book for yourself and not for team.

[ripe obsidian]

I think it becomes a matter of skill. I am simply not great at the game, so I lose track of all the threats and end up positioning poorly in hectic situations.

So people with better awareness do better

[deft stump]

Don't you mean other people copy you?

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker bad. Very little reason to take it if you understand how it works. It's on the wrong side of the tree, doesn't proc consistently outside of solo servers (psykhanium), and can't refresh the buff it gives (meaning the buff has to expire before you can get it again)

[ripe obsidian]

Like, I watch Agent or Syllogism play when they stoop to my level, and it's like they're playing a different game

[plucky flax]

No wtf

[nocturne dust]

Even if it worked well, 5% crit and some toughness is whatever

[frail escarp]

oh wow, had no idea, okay that does sound pretty bad

[deft stump]

Wot.

[frail escarp]

thanks a lot i guess ill stop using it 😄

[plucky flax]

Nah it was just luck.

And cheat mod.

If you use cheat mod your awareness go up about 9%.

I use cheat mod because I play with 2 channel speakers at home and 1 channel bluetooth speaker with 1s delay at work.

It's ethical.

[ripe obsidian]

It's like I was asking last night, I need advice on positioning as Psyker in H40 situations. I can go a whole H40 match taking nearly no damage--but only if I have, like, a book zealot and an Ogryn making space for me.

[deft stump]

Uhh, my awareness doesn't matter as much on 300-400 ping. Everything is on a near halfsec delay. And to be fair, I just panic.

[nocturne dust]

Jokes on you, I use cheat mod and still suck

[ripe obsidian]

If I end up separated, I end up running in circles trying to get back to the team, which means I put out 0 damage

If I'm on Arby, though, I just press F and staggerlock whatever's in my way while my dog gives me back 100% toughness in 2 seconds

[ripe obsidian]

Well, maybe you are just better than me. >:(

[deft stump]

You think I understand positioning? I just panic harder internally.

[plucky flax]

It's hard to play burga with no yellow toughness or abies running around not protecting.

I play surge for mobility or bubble knight instead.

[deft stump]

Am not. I'm bottom barrel ~~heresy*~~damnation* player.

[ripe obsidian]

I spam LMB when pressured, usually, then run away if that's not working. Until a random basic shooter takes me from 100 to 0 in a single volley

[deft stump]

What do you think I do on Zealot? Panic, spam lmb, book, panic, lmb, book.

[ripe obsidian]

You should've seen my Zealot game the other night. I did basically zero damage and existed solely as a yellow toughness button so I could get carried

[deft stump]

I'm hard to carry for a reason. People are dead before I know what is going on at times.

Packet loss makes using anything weird.

[analog agate]

You gain some of it just by dying and analyzing what else you could have done.

The second phase is putting yourself in a place that you can always retreat back to a safe place.

Next is knowing where/how to train.

The most dangerous times are when you do a drop down and you hear the horde and boss music.

It is why I play VB staff in pubs. People are horrible at positioning so I can at least alleviate that for them with VB. Inferno just means they die

[rotund dagger]

Why do we call it a book, its a little rosette thingy

[deft stump]

Look at the picture.

[rotund dagger]

ok thats true

but its still a thigny not a book

[plucky flax]

No you hold up a bible and you sing.

You become choir boi.

[vestal trench]

book zealot mod that replaces book with iphone skibidi toilet

[deft stump]

I do no damage anyway since all that matters is crits to power book.

[ripe obsidian]

Is generally how it goes as purgatus, yeah. I end up in a rough place or somehow separated, and can't easily recover from mistakes. When I play VB, I am usually the last one standing if we wipe.

[ripe obsidian]

Bedtime story to put the heretics to sleep

[deft stump]

Unless they red.

You only can panic harder then.

[analog agate]

Inferno is great until your team gets boxed in by bulwarks and crushers. Then you are left trying to train them around and kill them. Hard clutches. I just gave up doing it lol

[ripe obsidian]

I'm getting better at not retreating into corners, but I still screw up in high intensity situations.

[summer prairie]

Run crit and EE on purg and constantly dodge slide charge forward or sideways. That and good dodge management gives you constant purg uptime and lets you play aggressively without yellow toughness

[ripe obsidian]

I think good dodge management is the thing in there that I am not doing on psyker

I panic and dodge too much. Then a crusher sees me and says, this fella's skull looks too round

[deft stump]

I think shooters/gunners are worse tbh.

[ripe obsidian]

I play Purgatus for the dopamine hits of Perilous Combustion into 31 soulblaze stacks on a mauler horde, resulting in "Spoony-Threepus killed Mauler x25"

[deft stump]

They can do the same, but from a distance... A distance the flamer doesn't reach.

[frail escarp]

so is gunner damage resistance good? i saw some conflitcint info on it, as in you can stack 3 and you'll barely notice the difference

but im reading through discord and ppl seem to recommend it

halp

[nocturne dust]

It's good, and stacking is good

[plucky flax]

Syllo you should give your patch to backup58.

[marble crater]

It's more noticeable than you think, but not as much as you wish

[nocturne dust]

Some people think stacking gunner resistance has 'diminishing returns', but this isn't true, you actually survive more shots per gunner res with each additional one, but the percentage change decreases

Basically, all you need to know is math is deceptive and it's cool

[frail escarp]

damn, what do i take off of my curios though? I have 3x ability cd, 3x stam regen, 2x toughness 1x sprin eff

[summer prairie]

Maybe, effort though

[nocturne dust]

Stam regen

sprint eff

[plucky flax]

Tru

[nocturne dust]

Psyker doesn't need stam substats

[analog agate]

Doesn’t that mean diminishing returns

[plucky flax]

Then you'd better update it if something breaks.

[frail escarp]

mhm

thanks a lot! ill try gunner res out

[plucky flax]

Cos I don't want to go back to crappy scoreboard counting blitz as range.

[analog agate]

I run crappy scoreboard

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/mikeohearn-gif-9467924472242763968

[analog agate]

But I guess I don’t care about breakdowns

[plucky flax]

It's nice to see the splits with bubble knight.

[summer prairie]

I added his new stuff to my patch, but not like he generally develops the scoreboard, just fixes it

[deft stump]

You mean math giff headache, headache bad.

[nocturne dust]

No, because it's not diminishing in effect. The percentage increase of resistance is diminishing, because it's not flat additive, but it would be bonkers and broken if it was additive. 60% flat res to any type of enemy would let you basically ignore the damage they do

[nocturne dust]

Math not give me headache

[analog agate]

I am surprised no one picked up the mantle of ovenproof

[deft stump]

Math hurt hed, not want. Hiss.

[plucky flax]

Because he does powerdi now.

Powerdi is good for stuff like how many abilities were casted.

Arby charging around probably hitting 200+

[summer prairie]

I considered trying to add that to ovenproof but probably too much effort

[proper osprey]

Except if you’re running tac axe

[nocturne dust]

Don't spam push attacks

[proper osprey]

Das what you do wif it

[nocturne dust]

Das wat you do with it

[proper osprey]

I be spamming tf outta it

[proper osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1389426055047020564/tacaxefunny.mp4?ex=68649359&is=686341d9&hm=232df48596114d2804e8edd2d18dddfefc5d5355f464451126366d17ba078c45&

[analog agate]

Maybe we are using diminishing differently or other people are. I know it isn’t additive and was saying that with each additional gunner res they have less of an effect than the previous one. Because they aren’t additive

[proper osprey]

SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK

@nocturne dust does it look like I use m&k?

[nocturne dust]

No

[proper osprey]

Someone said I’m lying

[proper osprey]

Guh

[nocturne dust]

You miss a lot of weakspot hits buddy

[proper osprey]

Nu uhh

[rotund dagger]

taxe is kind of lame

its just a normal axe

no big

[jovial juniper]

[plucky flax]

Give arby fgs tbh.

[deft stump]

I see you want to break the game.

[hollow bough]

fgs is overrated, dueling sword BIS

[analog agate]

True on 2 of the staff builds

[proper osprey]

You’re supposed to say I’m so proud of your growth kiss me fyre

[plucky flax]

Tru it's very bad.

[umbral atlas]

I just QP'd melee psyker and landed myself in low visibility + sniper gauntlet

[plucky flax]

Bubble knight much better with ds4.

You cleave all the horde with the toothpick.

[analog agate]

Assail makes short work of snipers

[umbral atlas]

I really need to remember to use assail more

I got my ass beat lol

[hollow bough]

Assail is awesome but then you don't get the 4% CDR talent

[analog agate]

It isn’t noticeable on right side build to miss psyk aura

You get SG so fast

[hollow bough]

Yeah if you're going SG it doesn't matter

But bubble is the wave

[umbral atlas]

Yeah I wanted malefic momentum and I don't really need cdr

[hollow bough]

or VS

I've been loving my smite VS build

[proper osprey]

I qp last night and right as I join a recon vet threw a krak at mob a crushers while there was 4 bursters in there and truth nuked me

Fyre evaporated

[umbral atlas]

Oh god yeah I had a match as arbites and like I spawned in with half ammo and by the time I finished reloading I was knee deep in specials

[verbal thistle]

wave?

[proper osprey]

The wave

[hollow bough]

Never heard of the wave before?

[deft stump]

Poor you.

[proper osprey]

The wave

[plucky flax]

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1387241958338199684/truthgryn.gif

[deft stump]

Was anything pinged anyway?

[ripe obsidian]

There's stupid math to it

It's not actually diminishing. DeadVoid made me math it

[zinc phoenix]

le meow

thats ridic

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[deft stump]

It's diminishing because each one provides less and less. It's still a positive in the end... But it goes from 30% to like 38% or something.

[ripe obsidian]

It's inconsistent, but it seems to be 16 pretty often for enemies in close range

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, it should be. But the math is stupid.

Hold on

[young cliff]

Is fire VoidBlast staff with flak/crit Blazing Spirit/warp nexus the best way to run it?

[zinc phoenix]

i just take 2x sniper resist

[zinc phoenix]

i can mostly avoid gunners or boop em til they get fuk but i can sorta survive them if im not too close. if its a sniper and i cant immediately get out of line of fire im dead without resist

[silver echo]

ok so apparently you can fully enrage a sleeping DH in 1 shriek if you take kinetic flayer. Was this always the case and I was just always lucky before? I feel like perilous combustion in general sets off a DH easier as well now but that may just be vibes

[zinc phoenix]

yeah youve always been able to get lucky

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/daft-punk-pharrell-singing-up-all-night-get-lucky-gif-5016349

[zinc phoenix]

bro needs to go to bed early

sleep is good for your health

also those fellas in the sparkly biker hats should probably not be drinking on the job

[patent mango]

warhamma

[ripe obsidian]

It's the surprise gunners that get me. Walk around corner, gunner is already gunnering, toughness gone in an instant, staggered from toughness break, dead before I can move again

[silver echo]

hold on, has kinetic flayer really always just proc'd on anything with a warpfire stack on it? been playing other classes or scriers for too long now to remember properly. I swear you had to do some sort of actual attack before

[zinc phoenix]

yep

[nocturne dust]

It's diminishing if you look at it from the damage of the total shot, it's not diminishing if you look at it from the amount of shots you take before dying

[zinc phoenix]

ive learned to not be first thru a door

other classes can take a gunner to the ass and survive

psyker cannot

[marble crater]

That's a recent change, PC also procs off soulblaze kills now

[analog agate]

That is diminishing returns

[ripe obsidian]

I forwarded your maths

[silver echo]

ok no wonder

I knew I wasn't insane since they had the cit on fire stuff in the hotfix

[ripe obsidian]

Is not my math

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, I saw. It's pretty close to the real numbers, percentage-wise. Not real numbers tho

[proper osprey]

Narp

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

[silver echo]

so kinetic flayer is just a major self grief now lmao can proc all the bursters and DH's with basically no control thanks to perilous spreading

[nocturne dust]

Not major

Most of the time you'll be fine

[marble crater]

It's not, Kinetic Flayer is awesome and I will not tolerate slander

[nocturne dust]

For one, PC can activate Daemons anyway

so like

[silver echo]

I mean I was an enjoyer of it before

[deft stump]

As said, You technically get less % from each, but they still help you take more in general. I said that before. It's still a positive.

[nocturne dust]

don't pop elites next to daemons

[umbral atlas]

I've had people aggro DH in every match today on my my melee soul drinker build but all of them were the arbites

[deft stump]

I can see why they threw if they only saw the crushers.

[ripe obsidian]

Can it? Wildfire avoids daemonhosts

[analog agate]

Lol yes

Happens to me

Annoying

[ripe obsidian]

There's a check of "if sleepy dh: do not the thing"

Weird inconsistency there.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but I want to be clear, it being diminishing is entirely a perspective thing, and we, as players, look at it from the perspective of how quickly it kills us (how many shots we take), so I think calling it diminishing is deceptive and is part of the reason many people think it's bad

[silver echo]

tbh castigors stance can just easily tank a DH

[deft stump]

If you kill an elite with wildfire next... RIP.

[nocturne dust]

It can. Takes multiple PC pops tho

[silver echo]

yea that's the thing

[keen cargo]

Hello fellow psykers, i want to make a heavy sword build, i know the way to go is headtaker and deathblow but i was thinking of taking the Crit blessing with the crit ignore mass blessing

[umbral atlas]

Yes but I'm always annoyed when someone thinks that because they can tank the DH they should aggro it

Because like why bother

[silver echo]

pc popping once didn't seem to usually aggro from what I remember

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/let-them-die-dead-angry-serious-bye-gif-5424515

[umbral atlas]

Why would I waste bullets on this when most people are guaranteed to die anyways

[nocturne dust]

It's the damage, so it depends on your buffs

[silver echo]

since a 15 stack gunner loves to take cover right next to the DH 99% of the time

[deft stump]

But then it's harder to explain to people since it's plain additive. I guess you could say it's multiplicative.

[nocturne dust]

That's generally the term used for situations like this, it's multiplicative

[deft stump]

Stop reminding me. I can't shoot because bistol BOOM.

[marble crater]

Just try it, not sure you will find many heavy sword users among psykers, unless they cosplay as a zealot from time to time

[keen cargo]

i have a vision that it can work

[silver echo]

tbh force greatsword just does heavy sword far better and far cooler

[nocturne dust]

I have zero faith in your vision, but as long as I'm not in the car or on the road you have my support

[deft stump]

So, is good, but not as good as you would assume just by looking at it.

[keen cargo]

i am fed up of force greatsword...

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you assume it's additive it very obviously becomes immediately broken

[umbral atlas]

Heavy sword is actually pretty good but not many people will pick that over dueling sword or force

[jovial juniper]

Real question

[silver echo]

I enjoy heavy sword on vet tbh but on psyker it's a pass

[jovial juniper]

Is Chained Deathblow still bugged

[deft stump]

I mean, some people assume things. After all, it takes up limited slots.

[umbral atlas]

Dueling sword is just like so objectively the best that if you choose anything else you are choosing it for style

And if you're choosing for style you pick the force sword

[zinc phoenix]

is it puncture + lethal prox on bolt pistol for arbie dog memes?

[marble crater]

I pick the force sword because the Dueling Sword will be nerfed soon

[deft stump]

Is gud.

Goes from 2 bombs to 1 bomb with bigger AoE.

[keen cargo]

Light Strikedown / Light Strikedown Stab
1st target adm vs Maniac from 1 to 1.25.
1st target damage from {100, 200} to {115, 230}.
2nd target damage from {25,60} to {40,80}.
Dev Note: The changes will also affect the Turtolsky Heavy Swords Pushfollow attacks and the Maccabian Mk V Duelling Sword Light 3 attack.

Heavy Strikedown
1st target adm vs Unarmoured from 1 to 1.1.
1st target adm vs Unyielding from 0.75 to 1.25.```
HEAVY SWORD IS NEW DUELING SWORD THANKS DO THIS GIGANTIC BUFF

[silver echo]

it is puncture, idk if the AOE up increases dog bomb range

[jovial juniper]

Dog blitz becomes a nuke

[deft stump]

Kills everything that isn't bosses, oggies, muties and captains.

[silver echo]

the gun does need to be in your hand for the bleed stacks to work

[nocturne dust]

Force Sword has deflector. If you use melee as a sidearm in Havoc, that's a perfectly valid choice and can be superior to dueling sword based on your usecase

[deft stump]

Even maulers will die without any extra thing, but takes awhile to bleed out.

[umbral atlas]

Turns him into like that CIA blender missile

[analog agate]

It is because most people want a melee that can deal with carapace.

It wasn’t so bad to rely on ranged for carapace before the tree rework. Now, so much carapace is spammed you would be out of ammo

[keen cargo]

what is the bug with chain deathblow ?

[deft stump]

Yes, I tested it out of boredom. That's for aurics btw.

[zinc phoenix]

Yep that’s the gameplan 😂

I’ve uber buffed dog and want him in nuke mode

[nocturne dust]

I LOVE UNCANNY. UNCANNY ON MY SWORD, UNCANNY ON MY AXE, UNCANNY ON MY KNIFE, UNCANNY ON MY CHILDREN. UNCANNY FOR SUPREME CHANCELLOR OF THE REPUBLIC.

[zinc phoenix]

Uncanny Nuts

[deft stump]

Why do you think I have a bistol (again)?

[jovial juniper]

It gives 10% CRIT chance across all tiers

[keen cargo]

oh god that's bad

[keen cargo]

and it seems like it would be madness not to take headtaker on heavy sword

[deft stump]

The best statstick to have ever existed.

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-you-and-you-all-of-you-gif-16547410925962805989

[jovial juniper]

Call me mad
I've been running Perfect Strike Bladed Momentum

[keen cargo]

absolute madman

i love it

[silver echo]

I didn't even know chained deathblow was a blessing until now seems pretty ok if it worked correctly

[umbral atlas]

...Revolver psyker is probably okay but I bet they're just worse at using that weapon than vet

[jovial juniper]

Would be great with Perfect Strike

[silver echo]

bladed momentum needs a lot longer buff duration

[nocturne dust]

I'm so excited for when they nerf Uncanny and we get 0 alternatives so the only viable carapace weapon becomes FGS

[gray juniper]

I used to stack 3. But what are known final values given to each number of perks taken? How are the devs doing the math?

[silver echo]

since it runs out when you actually need it and then you can't stack it

[nocturne dust]

It's complicated. You would need to ask somebody like @buoyant maple for real numbers on that

because it's, fun fact, not straight multiplicative or anything simple.

[keen cargo]

can someone explain why brutal momentum is always something to pick, am i missing on some crazy tech

please.

[nocturne dust]

Hit enemy

Kill enemy

hit more enemy

kill more enemy

[keen cargo]

yes but if vertical swipe it only targets one guy anyway

[nocturne dust]

The reason brutal momentum is so good is because you apply the damage of your first hit to every subsequent enemy (as long as you're proccing brutal momentum)

whereas with cleave, your damage (normally) reduces

[keen cargo]

oh right so basically infinite cleave potential

[nocturne dust]

well, it has a cap

and doesn't work on carapace

used to be infinite tho That was crazy

[fresh reef]

meme build pog

[marble crater]

Who is that, I only know "guide WIP"

[proper osprey]

Yeah I shouldn’t have given him that build even with the 2 damage reduction talents you still take a beating

[analog agate]

He changes his name so much.

[umbral atlas]

is Blazing Spirit at all worth it just for a soul drinker build or is it still a waste of a blessing?

[gray juniper]

@buoyant maple so you have an idea how 1,2 and 3 gunner resistance curios work on base psyker? It’s not all that easy to get a read

Three seems to be diminishing far more than two

[analog agate]

Blazing spirit bad on melee. Soul drinker bad in general

[deft stump]

You mean Path.exe?

[nocturne dust]

You mean strange Vet guy?

[hearty wolf]

bonkbonkbonk

[strong gulch]

😭

[analog agate]

He just comes in here once in a while and maths all over us

Then bails

Rude

[hearty wolf]

Holy fuck

You got DESTROYED

[proper osprey]

Fuck our melee psyker life

[strong gulch]

Just my entire life tbh.

[deft stump]

Strange vet guy that will totally carry your arse on vet somehow? yes.

[nocturne dust]

He's never carried me

[gray juniper]

I just witnessed manslaughter

[deft stump]

You find him more often in Vet mains (For obvious reasons).

[strong gulch]

game mean

[deft stump]

There there... Patpats. It'll be fine. Game was just being mean to you.

[hearty wolf]

That entire game was manslaughter xd

[gray juniper]

Does this enigmatic knowledge haver hold the riddle of the curios?

[gray juniper]

Game absolutely brutal. Not allowed a dying breath!

[ripe obsidian]

Hm. Another thing I see a lot with better Arbites than me is high ranged DPS. My melee DPS is usually good, but my ranged tends to lag. It might be due to picking Forceful instead of EO. Or just not pewpewing enough.

[deft stump]

Is Path.exe... He is the math guy, when not procrastinating with his newest game. WHERE VET GUIDE???

[hearty wolf]

I'm using forceful

[strong gulch]

At least my character died while complaining.

[ripe obsidian]

Okay I just suck

[gray juniper]

Yea this is yall play? I’m gonna pray some

[plucky flax]

Nah they just shoot more.

I prefer to melee more as arby.

[hearty wolf]

look at the leaderboard and look what happened to everyone minus me xd

[ripe obsidian]

I press F and charge into bonking range

[gray juniper]

Ok time to wipe my brown of anxiety and head to the vet chat to lurk

[buoyant maple]

Did someone ping me

[jovial juniper]

Yuh

[deft stump]

You can ask Path anything tbh.

[hearty wolf]

Nah it could be a lot of different things like length of match and what you are running. Like I think the remote detonation on dog is counted as range damage instead of companion without Syllo's plugin

not only that

I'm using an unoptimal shotgun

[deft stump]

Hi Path. :3

[hearty wolf]

I should be using the mk7 slug

[umbral atlas]

I will say I wasn't sold on the shotpistolf for a long time but when I finally got to upgrade it from 300 to 500 it started one shotting things so much more consistently and it was just very useful to have

[hearty wolf]

But I'm using the executioner shotgun

[ripe obsidian]

I mostly get out my gun to deal with specials or elites out of bonking range, not basic enemies

[hearty wolf]

And I'm also using it as flakiac rather than maniac unyielding

[plucky flax]

You can farm damage with shotgun. But I use bistol meme and only use it for specials.

[buoyant maple]

Gunner resistance is x80% damage taken from gunner and reaper

You can also understand it as x125% effective hitpoints vs gunner and reaper, they mean the same thing

These stack multiplicatively with each other, so 3x would be x51.2% damage taken, or x195% effective hitpoints

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust btw want to run my Arby build past you at some point for scrutiny

[hearty wolf]

That's pretty much all I use the shotgun for

and shotgunners/gunners

[nocturne dust]

Oh, is it just straight multiplicative? I remember someone saying that wasn't the case

[plucky flax]

361 kills from only shooting specials?

[nocturne dust]

I'm no arby aficianado but sure

[buoyant maple]

The only ones that are not “straight” multiplicative are efficiency ones which are inverse multiplicative and more or less the same thing tbh

[gray juniper]

Tbh that makes it look like you had them for bullet shields lmao. Sin man is sinful

[buoyant maple]

It’s just a matter of how u want to read the number

Diminishing return isn’t usually a thing in this game

[gray juniper]

Ok easily understood thank you!

[marble crater]

[hearty wolf]

Just as a sounding board it works. Cos for example, I wasn't using that stamina toughness one but it's really good.

Especiall when you're in the middle of fuck knows where and need to get toughness before gunners kill you

[jovial juniper]

Numbers Cat?

[gray juniper]

I’m starting to agree with this loadout. Flak covers so much

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I never go without the stamina toughness node

[hearty wolf]

I don't do maths so it's really probably asking someone who knows breakpoints

[hearty wolf]

I was in a 1vx twice I think? And another twice on 2vx's

[halcyon hull]

Scab Gunners, Flamers, Shotgunners and basic melee fodder all have flak armor, I believe.

[hearty wolf]

Flamers are maniac

[halcyon hull]

Their shooter-fodder might have it too.

Traitor guard units I mean

[hearty wolf]

Or maybe it's just the dreg flamer

[halcyon hull]

I'm not sure which is which

[buoyant maple]

Both flamers are full maniac

[hearty wolf]

cool thanks path

Thought so

[halcyon hull]

Really? Odd.

[gray juniper]

According to the steam guide, rager has flak on its head and mauler has flak on its body. Taking this perk you’ll notice the difference if you aim right

[gray juniper]

Sorry I’m too newb. I don’t understand what that means

[halcyon hull]

Can confirm

[halcyon hull]

Scab ranged fodder also get flak armor

[gray juniper]

Ragers have flak on heads is a god send for the mk6 great sword

[halcyon hull]

Dreg melee fodder get flak-armored helmets

[hearty wolf]

me alone. everyone dead. fight for survival. long.

but win

[zinc phoenix]

dog is a total meme

[hearty wolf]

You also need to factor into the weapon (penetration)

And some talents

to figure out if it's worth going for the body or head

[halcyon hull]

Carapace armor is generally (I think) tougher than Flak armor

[gray juniper]

Yea steam guide says trappers, flamers, mutant and dreg rager are maniac damage
Gunners, shotgunners, scab rager, bomber are mostly flak

[halcyon hull]

Scab ragers are flak heads and carapace bodies

[gray juniper]

Yea I set up the sword for mostly handling these two classes with a combo of maniac and flak

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s accurate i mistyped going too fast. The mauler has majority body flak while the rage has it on head only

[gray juniper]

Oh well a hard carry explains it then

[halcyon hull]

I need to learn how to do survivability on Psyker
I got chunked for all my toughness and 75% of my heath in a single melee hit once

[modest perch]

block

or better yet dont get hit

[halcyon hull]

True

Though my experience with Psyker is all glass no cannon

Maybe it'll get better once I have a keystone unlocked.

[plucky flax]

Simply accept your fate and die

[keen cargo]

Turtolsky is a psyker weapon purely for drip reasons

[halcyon hull]

Are you for real

[zinc phoenix]

man barbie is just so much easier to play in havoc than bubble knight

i literally just run at things and my dog fucks em up

idk how all the barbies die instantly

this class is braindead lmao

[earnest cobalt]

can any of the force swords be used for crowd control?

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf done

[halcyon hull]

Greatsword can

[zinc phoenix]

wdym crowd control

[halcyon hull]

It's actually quite good at it

[zinc phoenix]

why would you not use a sword to kill?

[halcyon hull]

Well, as good as psyker melee can be.

[keen cargo]

Do not listen to them, Heavy Sword is the only way of true disciples

[zinc phoenix]

heavy sword is about as dogshit as a weapon can be tbh

[keen cargo]

what is a painting to a blind ?

[halcyon hull]

Force greatsword alt attack gets empowered the more kills you get
At max power it will cut down a horde of trash like a lawnmower.

[analog agate]

I mean. It eats poxwalkers and ragers for breakfast

[keen cargo]

yes but the animation casting is bad makes you vulnerable

the heavy sword has no such flaw

[analog agate]

Just don’t hit carapace. Ever

[keen cargo]

it can work

[halcyon hull]

mfw eight maulers spawn at once

[zinc phoenix]

wow very useful

🥱

[gray juniper]

These people suck incomprehensibly and that sounds rude but it’s the objective truth

[zinc phoenix]

i wish this wasnt the most ass trait in the tree

[jovial juniper]

At least it's 100%

[gray juniper]

No if done correctly it’s fast. Cancel the first animation and release

@strong gulch I saw that emoji react. stop pretending to not be good lol

[keen cargo]

actually i have not tried to cancel the first animation, you activate special and block ?

[strong gulch]

I'm not good at arbys. 😤

Need more time with it. For now I just charge at gunner packs with no dog and forget what my weapons are.

[gray juniper]

It’s going to at least small pushback whatever is in front of you. It causes a light stagger to large enemies and destroys poxwalkers. In some circumstances it kills ragers outright. You’re probably watching the hand run across the full length of the sword. Hell no that’s a recipe for disaster. Wait for a 1/3 of the sword to be cast to be sure the mechanic commits then press attack

[gray juniper]

Ah ok ok. I can tell you’re cold at psyker so the contrary was throwing me

[keen cargo]

i'll give it a try

[halcyon hull]

Staff M1 really should be hitscan
I don't want a damage change or anything like that, just make it a hitscan weapon
Latency makes aiming projectiles hell.

[strong gulch]

lmao. You would hope skills transfer, but uhhh lol. Almost feels like I'm being obtuse on purpose on a different class.

[plucky flax]

Yep

[strong gulch]

Unlucky for some gaming.

[gray juniper]

I just played it with the psyker ptsd careful and methodical. My health bar is typically higher than everyone else’s

[hearty wolf]

I'll see if I can do another but don't think so

[strong gulch]

No worries. Chilling is good too. I can flip burgers in fast food sim.

[earnest cobalt]

ı recently got the force sword and like its theme with the psyker, I wondered if it could be used in crowd control in other marks

[strong gulch]

That's a good plan. I just go SO MUCH HP AND TOUGHNESS WEEEEEEEEE.

ooops

[earnest cobalt]

cuz its a new weapon I cant see all marks

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-tsang-tsung-soul-is-mine-gif-5567102

Kills with the great sword

[earnest cobalt]

there is a force greatsword? damn gotta try it ty

[earnest cobalt]

alr ty

[gray juniper]

Yea ngl it’s a learning experience because it feels invincible by comparison

[strong gulch]

There's 3 mks of the force sword and 2 of the FGS (force great sword).

[earnest cobalt]

I actually was trying to make full force equipment with the psyker

But will try it nevertheless

[strong gulch]

BUT this is also me on psyker when I'm fresh out of havocs. I just rot my own brains.

I will calm down eventually then I will learn if I keep playing.

[earnest cobalt]

bio lightning is life

I love it

[strong gulch]

EK staff if my favorite staff.

[gray juniper]

You want to save that charge for good moments. It depletes over time on its own so save it for important immediate crowd clearing

[gray juniper]

Man finally someone else

Shit hurts that it doesn’t carry into havoc well

[strong gulch]

I'm not skilled enough to take EK as the only psyker. If there are 3 psykers tho, I am gunning for EK shriek spam.

Even on pus hardened.

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s cool that could work

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is my favorite. It just sucks

[strong gulch]

I wish I liked VS.

[ripe obsidian]

It has a very long charge time to do less than any other staff

[marble crater]

Voidstrike? More like Trashstrike, am I right?

[strong gulch]

About once a month I get the strong urge to play it then I complain about it. At this point my partner just put his head in his hands and nearly yells, "You'll never going to like voidstrike. JUST STOP."

[marble crater]

"I'm happy and I don't like it, I should play voidstrike today"

[strong gulch]

yes

[gray juniper]

Everyone should get it as first staff by default for learning reasons lol

[strong gulch]

First staff sure as heck sould not be trauma

feck

voudblast

voidblast

[sinful peak]

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch

[strong gulch]

play?

[hearty wolf]

ye asking fren

[strong gulch]

oh nice beetlejuice is 400

[hearty wolf]

ah yea

[strong gulch]

Let me know when to start. I got a campaign mission.

[keen cargo]

i deleted a level 1XX psyker cause i just learned recently i could change gender of my character...

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045851891143299093

[strong gulch]

Ye. I made multiple psykers for similar reasons. This was before you could change things tho.

then I made more lmao

[hearty wolf]

any1 for havok

[ripe obsidian]

How many Psykers do you have, and at what total level?

I have one Psyker at like level 470. =|

[strong gulch]

i have 4 and one is level 3

[ripe obsidian]

A baby psyker

[strong gulch]

it think bewteen the 4 I'm at aroud 1400

[ripe obsidian]

So much psykery

[strong gulch]

game didn't want me to switch weapons. sad

face tank and death it is

crash lol

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

Mass effect 2 DONE

number of indoor nukes launched: 12

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/masseffect/images/9/90/Codex_ME2_-_M-920_Cain.png
M920 my beloved...

[gray juniper]

Can someone tell me what my stats present as in that mod?

[gray juniper]

Ty!

[ornate hamlet]

hmmm

thinking hurts

[swift prawn]

Blaze Force Greatsword is Carapace+Unyielding and Riposte+???

[keen cargo]

the one with peril = Strength

[keen cargo]

yes

[swift prawn]

pog, ty

[marble crater]

[keen cargo]

but you can experiment with other stuff if you feel like it

[swift prawn]

funfact, if the old systems were STILL in place

this would be my first and only

max rolled weapon that naturally, NATURALLY came with correct rolls

[vestal trench]

lmfao wtf do people really just randomly kick you in aurics? what pissbabies

[swift prawn]

i would just have to roll 1 perk, imagine

[vestal trench]

i wasnt event doing bad

[keen cargo]

gg mate

[swift prawn]

well, wish i had it 5 years ago ON ANY WEAPON

xD

[hearty wolf]

it's why you should do havoc

with me

rn

[marble crater]

[vestal trench]

breh i can barely survive in maelstroms 😭

[hearty wolf]

it will be fun

bonding excercise

what do you say

[vestal trench]

but yeah that was going well aside from the smite psyker nearly getting us killed

[gray juniper]

Explain?

[hearty wolf]

exactly

come come

[vestal trench]

i really cant tell anything specific that wouldve led to it

played as best as i can with the other arbites who didnt go down while the other two got overwhelmed by flamers and bombers

[gray juniper]

Lmao you can’t say no to that

[vestal trench]

we finally clear them

[hearty wolf]

i'm still waiting for a firm no

[vestal trench]

i get kicked while im raising the other psyker

[vestal trench]

the smyker

[vestal trench]

yknow what fuck it why not

[marble crater]

[vestal trench]

ima just go piss LMAO

[hearty wolf]

YESS

[gray juniper]

It’s probably shitty game understanding on their part and blame you

[vestal trench]

dude i dont have a single build with bubble LMAO

ima get carried fr

[hearty wolf]

It's

fine

juist vibe

[vestal trench]

bet

[gray juniper]

Remember remember there are hella people playing arby right now way above their league

[strong gulch]

EK shriek spam havocs lets go

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045851891143299093

if you want to listen

[keen cargo]

wdym ?

[gray juniper]

Aw that’s wholesome af. You def can’t say no to that

[vestal trench]

im starting to hate arbies the longer i play psyker i cant lie

[keen cargo]

they just go solo god mode and care about now one and when they finally fail even though having fkn terminator kit they be like "HELP HELP I M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP HELP"

[gray juniper]

Newer players not understanding the difficulty differences from heresy to dam to auric because they skated through situations in damnation where really they shouldn’t have

They go to auric and specialists overwhelm them

[keen cargo]

i'vee seen that yeah i agree

[gray juniper]

Notice what he says here

“played as best as i can with the other arbites who didnt go down while the other two got overwhelmed by flamers and bombers”

Experienced players don’t let either build up

[strong gulch]

@vestal trench inferno bubble havoc

flak + pref and nexus + blaze away

take single target melee

[ripe obsidian]

Not using the node that lowers peril on kill?

[hearty wolf]

That's actively bad

[strong gulch]

it's fine

[ripe obsidian]

I disagree

[keen cargo]

but you want to be able to control your peril to be high or low not it to be randomly lowered when you need it high

[loud girder]

whats the correct way to craft curios?

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't had issues tbh. Still sitting between 70% and 90% most of the time. That nodes just gives me more time to burn things

It more often feels nice when it goes off rather than frustrating

[gray juniper]

Yep. It’s style choices difference

I like mine more self managed on most builds
Tato likes the inverse
Neither is necessarily wrong

Warp rider is a big deal

[ripe obsidian]

I only pick it in high havoc due to the quell debuffs

[jovial juniper]

Chat

New Psyker ability

[keen cargo]

warp testicular torsion

[sinful peak]

gunker puttin in work

[gray juniper]

Is.. is that a chainsword?

[pastel turtle]

am I doing something wrong in Havoc? I have the typical inferno/force sword build with KD. I feel like I can never focus on shooting fire because everyone fucks off and I spend half the time cutting the heads off of poxwalkers.

[marble crater]

Sounds like a team issue

[pastel turtle]

It really feels like the most thankless class. Ogryn and Arbites are great, mindless really, but whenever I pick psyker it feels like my team is actively trying to get me kileld.

[sinful peak]

divine punishment for using inferno

[pastel turtle]

using this building pretty much verbatim but with Empathic Evasion instead of Wildfire

[gray juniper]

You may or may not be wrong

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire supremacy

[pastel turtle]

I try to stick close to my teammates, since you obviously don't want to just be sitting behind, but it feels like randoms treat me like I'm another zealot/arby and can fend for myself. it's possible if I'm in a tight spot but then I'm not contributing anything with the staff.

[gray juniper]

Any other class that was speed running goes down
The rest of the team:

[ripe obsidian]

Swap the node left of EE for EE

[gray juniper]

Psyker goes down five feet in the back

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-gif-1974600105454603239

Mfw they start having a really hard time all the sudden

[jovial juniper]

A big one

[tulip kettle]

"hey guys thats 3 times now ive been left in a room on my own, can you turn around and help me out sometimes?"

"shut up"

welcome to my onlydodges

[marble crater]

If you rush ahead, they have to run past you when they rush ahead

[strong gulch]

bruh VB barrel ignition is still so cursed

[pastel turtle]

okay so I guess this is a "it's technically your fault cause you're playing with randoms" thing

[spare comet]

well my psyker build is complete for now

thank you friends

[keen cargo]

shredder pistol can sprint and shoot, add the talent that gives speed on crit and add the scrier's gaze movespeed. You are now lightning fast and supress everything on your way

[marble crater]

Definitely not on purpose trying to barrel people

[spare comet]

it's time for me to harass zealot class chat now

[gray juniper]

Damn did they really say that?

[tulip kettle]

lol yes

havoc 40 community is so toxic

oh you went down one time?

BLACKLISTED FROM EVERY GAME IM IN FOR ALL ETERNITY

your KF killed a poxburster?

thanks

thanks

thanks

[ripe obsidian]

Is the combo for poking down crushers with Deimos just L1 > H2 repeat?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you

I'm gonna try Deimos with Deflector on Havoc for some survivability

[upper sun]

anyone up for a night cap?

[strong gulch]

yeah. If it's too fiddly, just do heavies. You can also L1 block cancel too.

[jovial juniper]

Sure

Highsune-Miku

[upper sun]

invite

or rather join

[jovial juniper]

I'm solo rn

Johnny law

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[gray juniper]

Yea that def toxic

Ngl it’s pretty wild overall the class with high damage and best group defense capabilities gets left behind consistently

And why no matter what if it’s havoc 1 or 40 you’re liable to get left behind continuously?

This is why it’s gun or bubble knight for me

[sinful peak]

can't say I've experienced that

[gray juniper]

And the bubble is for me 😤

[gray juniper]

It depends who you pub with. The group is either really tight or it’s a shit show

Helped this dude do a havoc 15. Not bad at all obviously. He started psyker and got killed a few times but was using nothing but smite

[keen cargo]

the forbidden school of smykers

[gray juniper]

Next game he switched to arby on a sniper gauntlet

They ran ahead the entire time while snipers beared down on them constantly
I’m in the back again and again because all these guys with guns are ignoring the snipers. All I have is assail and gun. Get mutant tossed into fire and die. Rinse and repeat

[gray juniper]

The slytherin of Darktide

[brazen light]

Anyone got a suggestion for a noob Psyker? I'm level 21 but I just got back after the start of the game

[keen cargo]

What type of suggestion do you mean

[brazen light]

Like a loadout, etc

Any tips or suggestions really

Also, I'm streaming if it's easier to see what's goin on w me

[keen cargo]

well it really goes to what you enjoy

[brazen light]

I have no idea what I'm doing ngl I just kinda got plopped in here

[keen cargo]

psyker has several tools, i think you shouldn't stress too much and just try them out

lmao

he is the most squishy of the classes yes

[gray juniper]

The pinned notes have them under that tab

[brazen light]

uhhhh aoe i guess idk

[upper sun]

"auric"
"high intensity"
"shock troop"
"gauntlet"

"habdreyko"

[jovial juniper]

Keep your toughness up
Soulstealer and Quietude

[upper sun]

1.8K SPAWNS

aaaaa

fatshark PLEASE

[brazen light]

ek staff doesnt explain what the build actually does to someone who doesnt know wtf 30 of the random moves do

[jovial juniper]

Isn't this supposed to be high² intensity

We got like what

[jovial juniper]

1 Ogryn pack

[upper sun]

this was pre patch

[upper sun]

i said more than once they LYING

[brazen light]

okay i think the only build that actually explains what it does is voidstrike

other than just random move names

[brazen light]

which one is soulstealer and quietide

it depends on the weapons you use right

[jovial juniper]

Left side top row talents

It's basically bread and butter

[brazen light]

oh yeah they have talents now

[strong gulch]

I knew there was no way I was gonna clutch all that stuff. No monster sure. So I was like, "GET SIN".

[tulip kettle]

it for sure was a chill game

[brazen light]

so is there any suggestions on what build to go or at least what the other ones but voidstrike actually does compared to the other ones

[tulip kettle]

zachk

psyker is one of those classes where its not really simple

[brazen light]

hi

[verbal thistle]

Hab dreyko has very low spawns

Meanwhile vault side has the highest in the game rn

[hearty wolf]

You actually won ngl

[verbal thistle]

Iirc

[tulip kettle]

at a high level its got a lot of cool stuff but if youre new to the game again probably focus on getting to level 30 and learning melee combat

[hearty wolf]

As soon as I was up. it was reallywinnable

The issue was Ogryn went for a revive

rather than tanking

[upper sun]

BRO PLEASE im thirsty 😭 can they fix auric already

[gray juniper]

SEFONIS

BATH

WATER

I’m done dawg

[keen cargo]

voidblast = charge up an area that gets bigger and at release it unleashes a shockwave that staggers/makes them fall and do damage.

voidstrike = sends a ball of energy that goes through targets in a straight line and can also stagger

[hearty wolf]

it's alright, it's really tough

[upper sun]

i had missions with 1.5k

[brazen light]

im level 21 but i just got back to the game after 2 years, so theres not even really a tutorial lol

[tulip kettle]

start a new character

play the campaign from the start

[brazen light]

oh dang thanks

[tulip kettle]

and honestly, dont stat with psyker

[brazen light]

this is what i was lookin for lol

so voidblast is better right kus it does actual damage

[tulip kettle]

they all do damage

[brazen light]

oh

[keen cargo]

oh voidstrike does damage and more than voidblast

[tulip kettle]

wrong

[keen cargo]

but voidblast is a great tool to learn and master

[tulip kettle]

but sure

it does more damage to the target it directly hits

[jovial juniper]

That's mild

[brazen light]

so voidblast is better for aoe?

[keen cargo]

i'm just trying to explain things simply

[tulip kettle]

yeah sorry my b

i would put it like this

voidstrike = shoot bowling balls

[keen cargo]

Yes Voidblast is AOE in a circle, voidstrike is a straight line

[tulip kettle]

voidblast throw everything around

[vestal trench]

.....that would be me

[tulip kettle]

inferno is a flamer

electro is for shooting lots of little balls and zapping big things

[hearty wolf]

You did really well btw

We would have won that last one if I didn't do something experimental LOL

[brazen light]

inferno sounds neat because fire is broken if it has stacks

[hearty wolf]

I SWEAR I'VE SEEN PEOPLE RUN THROUGH IT

[vestal trench]

ty!

[tulip kettle]

inferno is th meta staff in the highest level content

[vestal trench]

nah honestly i dont mind the L that was funny

[brazen light]

i figured lol does it have stacks

[hearty wolf]

xd

[tulip kettle]

but it feels more underwhelming further down the difficulty

[vestal trench]

trauma staff looks so fun though

[brazen light]

aw kus it relies on talents?

[tulip kettle]

yes it stacks like all DoTs in this game

[brazen light]

neat

[tulip kettle]

no just because its better when there are more enemies grouped together

[brazen light]

true

[hearty wolf]

Yeah that clutch was well played @potat

[zinc trail]

Y'all use staves on psyker?

[strong gulch]

You RMB elites and specials to proc PC (perilous combustion), wildfire, pysk's aura and shriek (creeping flames) often. EK is great at enabling those talents. Hold the charge for more damage or spam for better CC. Your main horde clear is shriek and only really melee when needed. LMB thins hordes put a lot if you have a good bit of space between you the the horde. LMB also is great at suppressing shooters. You can charge or quell while sliding. So you can be ready to cast once you're out of a slide. Makes dealing with shotgunner and gunner packs a lot easier.

[hearty wolf]

:)

[tulip kettle]

when levelling psyker, i think the most fun way to play is to use a gun, a sword, and assail

[keen cargo]

his head is gonna blow up with this information mate lol

[analog agate]

While I get you are new and learning. I will give you the big boy answer. Voiddblast is much better than voidstrike in terms of a staff tier list. Even in damage

[tulip kettle]

and then try to learn the melee combat, and for more psyker specific, try to practice keeping your peril high but not exploding

but again dude

psyker is by far the most complicated class imo

[brazen light]

you should put that in the post ngl helps a lot

[tulip kettle]

and you should probably focus on learning the core mechanics of the game and playing with what feels fun to you

[strong gulch]

My pins are not guides. They are just how to build for the staff. All of those are more or less the same build.

[tulip kettle]

try stuff out

[vestal trench]

anyone who's played vermintide - is sienna or psyker harder?

[gray juniper]

Noted. Need those kills

[tulip kettle]

i think sienna is harder

[brazen light]

i mean the voidstrike one has a description of what it does too lol

[tulip kettle]

but i think VT is just harder