psyker-class

[zinc comet]

How could you not like Rashad Caxe

[sterile steppe]

And how viable is the force greatsword in those high levels?

[nocturne dust]

wat recent burn nerfs?

[nocturne dust]

3rd best psyker build, so very viable

[sterile steppe]

https://youtu.be/wZPbqcr8ixk?si=lhCyo9pe9b9C6tMK

[nocturne dust]

oh no

misinformation

[sterile steppe]

Oh good! What are the first 2?

[nocturne dust]

Inferno and Voidblast staves

[sterile steppe]

Is it? What is the misinformation there? I am not good at darktide yet....so I am unsure of which info is good and bad

[nocturne dust]

The 'nerf' was changing burn so that it no longer triggers Psyker's crit talents, which isn't a nerf at all because every meta build with burn is a fast-firing gunker who crits like crazy anyway

Bet you're asleep now that I can play

[stone totem]

It's pretty decent
Regardless, you shouldn't be spending half of your ammo in the first five minutes so melee is still the primary weapon

[deft stump]

Only if you path WS.

[stone totem]

I hope you mean "Only" to just the first part

[nocturne dust]

That's wrong

[stone totem]

FT is decent too

[deft stump]

You want Trench fighter for Rashad.

[nocturne dust]

Vet is fine in melee, keystone not so required

[nocturne dust]

I have Focus Target with Rashad

Because I hate WS with every fiber of my being

[rotund dagger]

Its boring give me my chainaxe

[nocturne dust]

But knife is also good on vet without WS, and I can still hit all the BPs a WS can

on both Rashad and Knife

[ripe obsidian]

WS?

[nocturne dust]

weapon specialist

[ripe obsidian]

Ah

[deft stump]

That's you, but running Rashad usually pushes towards right.

[nocturne dust]

The 'you shall be forced to constantly swap weapons for no reason' node

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but no

[ripe obsidian]

Pick db shotgun with weapon specialist. Is fun.

[nocturne dust]

Yes, Rashad is on the right, but Rashad is also middle and left because Vet, like most classes, sprawl out over the bottom

[deft stump]

Ppl will suggest PS if you go mid or left.

[nocturne dust]

Sure

Dumb people

[deft stump]

Or... the sword that must not be named.

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ao-oni-borrow-pen-explosion-throw-regular-show-gif-7575446060740965656

[rotund dagger]

they should rework marksman focus

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/grogu-baby-yoda-uppies-gif-8205373085076956043

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1389426055047020564/tacaxefunny.mp4?ex=68649359&is=686341d9&hm=232df48596114d2804e8edd2d18dddfefc5d5355f464451126366d17ba078c45& @nocturne dust

on controller

[nocturne dust]

Maybe I'll get to looking at the tacaxe buff... in 5-6 months

until then, no opinion

[proper osprey]

i can't stop using it

help

[zinc comet]

The opinion is it’s good

And fun

[proper osprey]

i use it on every class

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-cat-cat-vro-cat-gif-17161343143756375842

[nocturne dust]

My opinion is it was bad before and there were freaks who liked it but it really wasn't impressive. After, who knows I haven't touched it and I'm working on a Fatshark deadline here

[proper osprey]

im the freak btw

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flightreacts-tongue-tongue-laugh-gif-13724048537815479089

[nocturne dust]

There were quite a few

[ripe obsidian]

Doggo build versus lone wolf build

[nocturne dust]

Doggo is just fetching you grenades in lone wolf build

[young cliff]

that's a neat way to put it

[ripe obsidian]

https://youtu.be/rj83CnXuK-0?si=f2WhaSM-lyD9YRYj

[deft stump]

So explain 'nades on Vet.

Where our doggo?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/mac-gyver-smile-gif-3728088863480321033

Vet finds a box of scraps in a cave and turns it into a grenade

[proper osprey]

cant wait for vet rework number 5

[nocturne dust]

Vet gonna shoot harder

[proper osprey]

buff his melee talents or sum

[zinc comet]

Give him a nuke

[deft stump]

Inf nukes?

5% chance for more?

Lethal prox?

60 sec regen?

+1 nuke?

20% chance to double nuke?

[zinc comet]

Yeah why not

We’ve tried all manner of killing heretics besides dropping a nuke on them

[deft stump]

You want a bombing run, I think.

[nocturne dust]

Bro wants exterminatus

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-exterminatus-explode-gif-16225998

[fathom adder]

Portable Hellbomb

[deft stump]

Twinned hellbomb.

[ripe obsidian]

Oof. I took way too much damage in that last game. Kept getting separated from my team. They'd charge ahead with assorted dashes while I'm getting bogged down with elites

[nocturne dust]

want to play some?

[ripe obsidian]

Sure. Lemme finish my duolingo lessons

Havoc or? My current mission is 38

[nocturne dust]

I'm fine with whatever

[ripe obsidian]

Anyone else wanna do havoc? Or is the chat dead?

[deft stump]

I'm eepy. Also 400 ping is hell worse than 300 ping so.

[ripe obsidian]

Have you tried increasing the speed of light? That would fix your ping

[deft stump]

Mostly cos ppl want me to grind up to 40 again.

[deft stump]

I have bloody fibre already.

[strong gulch]

I'm trying bed out. Hopefully it works out.

[ripe obsidian]

Issa joke

[nocturne dust]

Exactly

Increase speed of light

your fiber go faster

[ripe obsidian]

A networking joke, sorta. Sometimes non-technical people like project managers will ask for faster connections, but the laws of physics say "No"

[deft stump]

Bed gud, yes.

[nocturne dust]

Bed gud.

Slept on the couch on my face today

bad idea

[deft stump]

Well, you can get faster by having more being DL'd at the same time.

[deft stump]

Just why?

[nocturne dust]

I tired

was accident

[deft stump]

But face?

You can eep on back.

[umbral fractal]

inferno staff go brrr

[static sonnet]

My favorite play style right here. Light rooms on fire on repeat with FGS, Venting, and Purg staff. I love the FGS so much, its so damn good

[turbid vector]

Wow

[static sonnet]

Stagger shooters with the special, clear rooms with the special, deal with armor very well, stoke peril in seconds, its my favorite melee in the game

[sturdy reef]

if you're still up for it, I have a 40

[little pier]

Do the on critical hit perks trigger at all with the inferno staff any more?

[sturdy reef]

yes on the lmb

yes on the first tick of damage of the rmb

so dont fully charge the rmb if you wanna crit

its just wasting time between crits

[open crown]

Can someone explain this penance? "While on Heresy threat or higher kill a Monstrosity after damaging 50 of its health with your Brain Burst."
So you just do 50 dmg once and then kill it? or is it like missing a % sign?

[nocturne dust]

should be 50%... did they break it in a patch?

[open crown]

okay thats good to know it should be % then

[ripe obsidian]

Sure. @nocturne dust wanna do a 40?

[nocturne dust]

sure

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, @sturdy reef if you're still around

[sturdy reef]

in one rn

in a bit

[umbral fractal]

A friendly Psyker told me to give the greatsword a try. I quickly learned that the charge attack has a wide area effect, causes stagger, and can go through walls. This playstyle has been very fun to use. If needed, I can cover my teammates by staggering gunners, and I love that.

[ripe obsidian]

I saw someone saying earlier than the new Hi-Int Aurics were super difficult. I... cannot say I agree.

[nocturne dust]

Haven't touched em yet, unless we just did one

[ripe obsidian]

We did

Those missions were both high-int shock troop gauntlet auric

[nocturne dust]

Huh, I did think some of the spawns were a lil large, like when I turned a corner to see a bagillion gunners staring back

But yeah, not too crazy

Maelstrom is harder than it, I think

[ripe obsidian]

Probably. I don't do maelstrom super often anymore

But auric is now damnation + hi int by default, so it's damnation + hi int + hi int stg

[nocturne dust]

I'm still stuck in Damnation

I don't think it's progressing me when we do aurics

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, that sucks

Gotta speedrun damnations, then

[zinc comet]

I got damnation progress for playing aurics

Did they patch that

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

Either it's no progress, or very little progress

cuz I've done a lot of aurics and am at 75/100, and I've also done quite a few dams so I should be around there anyway

[ripe obsidian]

There's no way it takes 100 missions to reach Auric...?

[zinc comet]

75%

[nocturne dust]

not percent, just a number

I don't think it's missions tho

just an arbitrary number made to look like a percent I guess

[plucky flax]

Auric works for hte progression.

Clad confirmed it when I played with him last week.

[nocturne dust]

[zinc comet]

There was a patch today

[nocturne dust]

How many missions is it supposed to be then

[zinc comet]

10

[sturdy reef]

okie

@ripe obsidian @nocturne dust

h40?

anyone else

[ripe obsidian]

Ready when you are

[nocturne dust]

I've definitely done more than 10

somethings funky

[plucky flax]

I can come.

[sturdy reef]

its gonna be US west

[plucky flax]

How about US east?

[sturdy reef]

If you're okay with the latency

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1032365015258366063

[strong gulch]

Hope havocs going well.

[sturdy reef]

u wanna join? chaos had to go to work

[strong gulch]

I'll get up. Need a couple minutes.

[sturdy reef]

yee join same place when ready

strike team 5

[topaz void]

fuck crushers

[strong gulch]

gg @sturdy reef @ripe obsidian @nocturne dust

[sturdy reef]

yee gn yall

[nocturne dust]

@ripe obsidian @sturdy reef @strong gulch @plucky flax ggs

[strong gulch]

I will pretend like I played with Agent.

[plucky flax]

I was there in spirit

[proper osprey]

Gg

[strong gulch]

gg @plucky flax

[plucky flax]

In near 200 ping elevating off the ground

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-falling-down-stairs-gif-5462499368330342031

[sturdy reef]

US east next time

[strong gulch]

can we bully havocs into the servers we want how?

[sturdy reef]

US west bullied me

I demand compensation

[proper osprey]

Sorry

[proper osprey]

I can spank you

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bunny-dessert-spank-jiggly-bunny-jiggly-gif-25255921

[sturdy reef]

[nocturne dust]

I'm fine with US East because I lag on every server

[sturdy reef]

lol

[strong gulch]

Oh no. I never limited my tabs. 200 feckers taking up space and power.

[strong gulch]

US East lagging itself. 😭

[marble crater]

Just play in EU, best server anyway (not biased)

[sturdy reef]

heresy

[vestal trench]

is tacaxe on a non gunker build inefficient since it doesn't take the right side crit nodes? or should it work fine

[sturdy reef]

it doesnt really fill a niche your staff cant

thats why I dont run it whenever I use a staff

also it def wants DD

[nocturne dust]

EU is when I start to phase out of reality and into the warp

[marble crater]

Smh

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lag-999ms-ping-lagging-delay-gif-25051830

Also, Spidey saving my bacon

[proper osprey]

If you’re not doing melee psyker it’s not worth

[vestal trench]

oof gotcha, really knife and ds are the options if i want mobility huh 😭

i at least enjoy knife, DS animations get old for me

i was getting my ass kicked in auric doing EK + FGS so im looking at alternatives

[sturdy reef]

Id rather have taxe then knife

But then again

I hate knifr

Taxe really is jarring on psyker

[proper osprey]

Knife helps a lot with the upcoming changes to the ds plus you get access to uncanny which buffs your dots

[sturdy reef]

Depending on build path

[nocturne dust]

but knife is amazing

[sturdy reef]

Me no likey

[vestal trench]

speaking of, finally maxed my EK and tried VB first time

seems harder to play than inferno and EK, any tips gameplay wise?

[nocturne dust]

It's lobbing a grenade

treat it like that

jump/aim higher to 'throw' it farther

[vestal trench]

im guessing it feels better once i get the charge speed to 80 too?

it's at 63 rn but mastery lock

[nocturne dust]

Oh definitely

All staves scale very hard, VB especially

still gonna be slow tho

[vestal trench]

gotcha

[nocturne dust]

you want to spam at your feet for defense

[vestal trench]

yeah definitely doesnt feel as spammable as sienna's conflag staff

[nocturne dust]

and you want to position the circle directly under big bois and charge quite a bit to stagger them

[vestal trench]

also now that im trying to get used to auric im seeing the whole psyker squishiness pain 😭

i gotta git gud but damn

[nocturne dust]

Don't worry, it gets worse

[vestal trench]

gotcha

[vestal trench]

im getting dragged into maelstroms and havocs by my friend who got into the game bc of arbites so i'll learn soon

is it purge > vb > ek > gunker in terms of strength?

[proper osprey]

Ngl I tried to enjoy vb again and I just wasn’t feeling it

The only thing I use it for is melee psyker

To get myself out of an unwinnable situation

My fav staff will always be purg or surge

I used to go crazy with vb tho don’t know where the skill went

Went into melee psyker

[marble crater]

Sad

[nocturne dust]

Inferno > VB > Gunker > EK > Voidstrike for Havoc

Auric, it's EK > VB > Gunker > Inferno > Voidstrike

[vestal trench]

oh huh

EK is the easiest to use i find

[nocturne dust]

well, might be different with the tweaks they've done recently, haven't extensively tested in Auric

[vestal trench]

gunker in auric scares me but i'll try one of these days

[proper osprey]

I wish they would rework ek

[proper osprey]

It’s just melee psyker lol

[vestal trench]

the whole "rushing" (not really rushing) that starts happening in auric (and i assume havoc) is new to me so i gotta learn when to just leave

[nocturne dust]

I do wish they'd make it slightly less reliant on psyker's myriad of buffs

[proper osprey]

Speaking of how is charged strikes on smite?

[marble crater]

It's not

[nocturne dust]

Still trash

[vestal trench]

still scares me 😔 ✊

[proper osprey]

I wish pysker got another tree rework

[summer prairie]

It might be good if it was actually attributed as your damage because then your buffs would affect it

[marble crater]

That's just something you will learn by playing more, when to push ahead and when to hold in a good spot

[proper osprey]

Take out some of the small nodes

[nocturne dust]

It'll happen after the Vet and Zealot Reworks + New Class DLC in 8-10 years

[marble crater]

[vestal trench]

yeah, it kind of doesnt help that my approach has been to blindly follow whomever's going fast

cause thats better than getting left behind to the horde 🥲

[nocturne dust]

I'm sure they'll make Unlucky for Some good with another psyker rework

[nocturne dust]

Stay behind. Kill the horde.

[proper osprey]

Or move souldrinker to the right side of the tree

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/terrible-melee-psyker-build

[vestal trench]

works till base auric, fucks me up in maelstrom

[nocturne dust]

Now now, let's be reasonable.

[marble crater]

That can be very dangerous right now, arbites is very good at just rushing ahead without a care, because it's so damn tanky

[nocturne dust]

Use pushes

[proper osprey]

Sorry that’s asking too much

[proper osprey]

Hmmm he will need pushes

[vestal trench]

i do, ig some of it is i dont wanna take my chances

[proper osprey]

I’m gonna make him use tac axe

[vestal trench]

it is kinda funny how i forgot to push up to damnation when it was so commonplace in vermintide 💀

[proper osprey]

It’s time to convert you

Go roll that mk7 tac axe son

[vestal trench]

i have one, low mastery tho

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[vestal trench]

i do have a melee/gun psyker build i just havent tried it in auric yet LOL

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-evil-smirk-crop-gif-25562144

[vestal trench]

it's just potato's gunbuild from below one of the pins

with recon/vraks depending on my mood

it hits like crack in heresy/damnation but i do not trust myself to not be a liability with it on auric LOL

[proper osprey]

Speaking of tac axe Arby loves it

It doesn’t even need crit

[marble crater]

Just play auric and try

[vestal trench]

o yea recon/vraks with fgs

[proper osprey]

It’s so crazy

[vestal trench]

gotcha

tac axes just light spam right? or is that outdated info

[proper osprey]

What timeline did I get put into

[proper osprey]

Narp

What mk are you using?

[vestal trench]

i'll try the 7 on your suggestion

ive barely touched the tac axes tbh

i'll probs get into gunker again once i get my VB to mastery 20

[proper osprey]

Push attack into heavy, heavy into light, when surrounded or boss dps light or pa heavy

[proper osprey]

Make sure you have headtaker and brutal momentum

[vestal trench]

o yea i love those from the rashad

[proper osprey]

Unarmored/maniac + flak

[vestal trench]

thanks o7

is 7 the "best" mark or is this one of the weapons where marks are genuinely just preferences

[proper osprey]

I think it’s the best the heavy spam is really good vs bosses and Cara

[hearty wolf]

Yuh :(.

Went out on a real banger too

[nocturne dust]

Rekt. Now I'm going to bed

[fierce crest]

never downed, killed once

just took enough corruption to die without ever getting downed

[strong gulch]

but if I'm dead I can watch people play and save my hands

[fierce crest]

when will they add "take a break" from l4d

[hearty wolf]

Mother fuc-

[hearty wolf]

I think I'm going to need a new mouse or something because of those games. Or new skates on my mouse because of how much movement I was doing

[strong gulch]

RIP. Mouse gave up.

I hope you can find a good one that isn't super expensive.

[marble crater]

Get a controller

[hearty wolf]

Those sticks wouldn't last a MINUTE

[hearty wolf]

I use a g pro wireless superlight so I'm looking at £100 at least probably :/

Maybe it's time for calm gameplay

Roleplay a bot

[marble crater]

[trim wren]

Guys does anyone else have an issue with loadouts on psykers

When I equip one, it equips the talents only, no cosmetics nor weapons

And it equips the cosmetics and weapons from the first loadout, but the talents from the one I selected like why does this happen

[marble crater]

Because you are cycling too quickly between loadouts

If you switch loadouts you will notice that the weapons and curios get loaded in a little bit afterwards

[ripe obsidian]

Can anyone here give me so advice on positioning as Psyker? Particularly in H40 conditions. When stuff gets really hectic, I find I don't have the tools to reposition well, and even if I manage to, I can't find a good spot to stand a lot of the time. Less of an issue with Trauma as compared with Purgatus. I don't have quite as much trouble with Zealot or Arbites, just because they have more survival tools. But I am generally not great at Zealot, so whatever.

[trim wren]

I am aware of this, but this doesn't happen with amy other class, only psyker

[ripe obsidian]

And it's weird, because some H40 missions I'll end up with <100 damage taken. More commonly I am between 200 and 300

[marble crater]

Then I don't know

I haven't played havoc in so long, I don't have an answer other than trying to stay behind the frontline

[strong gulch]

Knowing where the spawns are so they aren't right on top of you and having a place to run away to helps a lot. Deimos helps with brute forcing a path. But yeah, purg can get overwhelmed and you need to dodge more than with trauma. Avoiding places with no escape routes is good.

I feck it up constantly tho.

When the 3 of you are face tanking a bunch of stuff, there was a reason I was far away a lot of the time.

"I'm not going there. I'm running from scary things." 😭

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I get overwhelmed with all the things going on and inevitably lose track of spawns or positioning or something

[strong gulch]

ME

same

[ripe obsidian]

I also end up running in circles as Psyker a lot

Just trying not to get crushed

[strong gulch]

REALLY? I do that all of the time. I thought I just had a problem. lmao

[ripe obsidian]

"Pls Ogryn or Zealot or Arby, kick the mauler chasing me"

[strong gulch]

circle gaming

it's red now 😭

[ripe obsidian]

I think my big issue is that once I lose a safe position, I struggle to find one again unless an ally makes space

Whereas with other classes I can make my own space

[strong gulch]

Valid. Maybe stick to trauma for bit.

[ripe obsidian]

I like Purgatus more, but you might be right.

It's so satisfying to watch soulblaze stacks go up.

"Spoony-Threepus killed Dreg Shotgunner" x25

[strong gulch]

purg does help with monsters tho

[ripe obsidian]

If I have a team that's really good at making space, I tend to do pretty well. If I am often left to my own devices, I will end up either running in circles or using LMB spam to try to staggerlock enemies so I can escape

[hearty wolf]

Yeah this is honestly a really big thing.

Sometimes I make too much space because I'm 3 rooms away and the enemies back fill lmaooo

But the reality is that you should try and hug your team.

Tbh it's definitely the other classes that should play around the Psyker and sometimes when I do that, it's a lot more smooth

Which is anti chaotic so I run away from the Psyker

[ripe obsidian]

I like when people stay near me.

When they run 2 rooms ahead while I am stuck in a pack of maulers, I cry

[hearty wolf]

I only do it if it's a 2vX or I'm going to die

Yesterday was a good example of that. I left my Ogryn to die for a minute because I didn't like their positioning

[strong gulch]

You run from me while I run in the opposite direction somehow. Lost, scared, distracted? yes

[hearty wolf]

Lots of maps have shit zones that you want to desperately avoid

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh I haven't been playing my best as Psyker this week. Depression or lack of sleep or something, I dunno.

[strong gulch]

Sometime you really have to let someone die tho.

[strong gulch]

valid

[ripe obsidian]

I imagine things will balance out once fewer people are spamming Arbiter (he said hypocritically)

I like Arbiter, but it's not on par with Ogryn or Zealot for protecting my squishy psyker body

Or even veteran with VoC and grenades out the wazoo

[hearty wolf]

I think that's total cap

Or skill issue on the Arbiters part

The amount of CC you have is insane

[strong gulch]

Can't remeber the last time that I took trauma in havoc tbh.

[hearty wolf]

I'm not even using the 7.5m enhanced version lmao

[hearty wolf]

I have a mental mini-map of potato escape routes. You can only go so many places!

I do occasionally check back to see what you're up to. Realistically the best way to play the game is like checking every 5 seconds by blocking and quickly checking back but

That becomes quickly very boring

[ripe obsidian]

But who takes the CC? Every Arbiter in H40 is Castigator & EO and no shock mines

Their damage is super high, but they don't have any CC besides maybe dogbomb

[strong gulch]

ok I try to sleep again

[ripe obsidian]

...I should sleep as well. Brain just won't be quiet

[hearty wolf]

Oh

I didn't know that ex dee

Well even the dog electrocution is pretty good

I run the dash because it's just insane utility

Literally "I win" button half the time

[pine shore]

All melee arbiter weapons have insane stagger

and crusher

And these 3 melee weapons is what most people use

[weary crane]

Why havent they fixed the bugs with being hit while in grab or hound? Is this just intentional now?

[wispy bay]

Arbites have so many talents that boost cleaves and impact. Literally any melee can become sustain CC with them.

[hidden violet]

been trying soulblaze build for about a week now, doesn't really feel fun, what's a really fun build? the other build I run is gun psyker - scrier, lasgun

[glacial vapor]

EK, VoidBLAST

[static sonnet]

EP BB with KR and Shriek

[marble crater]

Soulblaze fun scales directly with density of enemies

[hidden violet]

yes, I'll get back to it once I'm good enough to run damnation/havoc

[hearty wolf]

You're already good enough

Just believe

[jovial juniper]

True

https://tenor.com/view/never-give-up-fist-pump-motivation-motivational-gif-4892451

[limpid lily]

scoreboard (ovenproof plugin to be precised) bugged? Doesn't really show psyker's warpfire dmg at all, my friend was playing psyker with inferno staff and it shows nothing

[summer prairie]

it's fixed in the beta

[limpid lily]

beta?

[summer prairie]

I assume you are using the ovenproof plugin patch and there's download link for the beta

[limpid lily]

oh ok

yeah I am using ovenproof

[limpid lily]

where's the download link might I ask?

[summer prairie]

he removed the non-beta link, so it's just the main download now

updated today

[limpid lily]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/514 this the one?

[summer prairie]

yes

[limpid lily]

oh nice

[peak canyon]

any reason on psyker not to play the 218 light attack dmg blaze sword when i only spam leftclick when out of quill/assils

[summer prairie]

you had to be using that because otherwise you wouldn't have that bug

[peak canyon]

both other blaze sword mks have like 100 less light atk dmg

[summer prairie]

they are all blaze swords

[limpid lily]

I mean, I actually manually inserted some code stuff into the lua file before to make it compatible with the new arbites stuff but that was about it I think

[summer prairie]

You had to insert "buff" into melee attack types to get that bug then

someone suggested the patch author to do that and it was very wrong

[limpid lily]

do I have to clean install the ovenproof plugin AND the ovenproof plugin patch and have both in Vortex?

[summer prairie]

@peak canyon don't look at the light/heavy attack values shown on the weapon card, it's useless information, inspect the weapon and press E

I don't know about vortex but you need to first have installed the original ovenproof and then overwrite with the plugin patch

[limpid lily]

gotcha

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie the warp slice is in melee damage now?

[summer prairie]

The first attack of deimos has high damage but it's a single target attack

[plucky flax]

Or range?

[summer prairie]

ranged in psykhanium

[plucky flax]

In 29 mins I did 223k with unupgraded assails.

Kinda big.

[summer prairie]

assail is big damage yeah, but I can never tell if it's better to spam it more or farm horde for the beam

[plucky flax]

I use it for peril so not really spamming it against horde too much.

Once I get above 50% peril I only use it to keep around 70%+

For horde it's better to fill the special gauge.

Russian guy joined in and asked if we can do tru survivor. He went down first then ragequitted the game.

[plucky flax]

Ah I understand now. It used to count assails as 'ranged' so I used to have equal damage melee and ranged.

Now it's blitz.

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

I was wondering why my range damage so low. XD

Make sense now.

Bubble knight is op

[hidden violet]

30% damnation winrate isn't good enough

[hearty wolf]

I think as long as you have MM uptime, it doesn't matter. Beam probably out performs if there's more density.

[hearty wolf]

That's only a 70% lose rate

[keen cargo]

after doing havocs with arbites i don't feel like playing my psyker main untill rework or something... it just feels completely underpowered

having to be in full sweat mode just to function

compared to arbites just being god of war in no sweat mod

also they removed the crit regen on burn for inferno staff

for some reason, oh yeah arbites OP let's nerf psyker

[summer prairie]

no they didn't

[pine shore]

what?

[keen cargo]

they did

[summer prairie]

no

[keen cargo]

check patchnote

[pine shore]

no they didn't

[summer prairie]

you check it

[pine shore]

Did you test it in game?

[summer prairie]

warpfire isn't burn

[keen cargo]

not yet

[summer prairie]

and no idea what they are referring to even

[pine shore]

Or did you just assume what it meant and came to your own conclusion

[analog agate]

Lol

Mister E strikes again

[keen cargo]

oh thats very good news then

thank god

i just saw that video and i was like wtf

[analog agate]

I fucking hate most darktide influencers

[keen cargo]

tanner was the best

Fixed an issue where Psyker 'on critical hit' talents would trigger when burn stacks are active on enemies.

[chrome tangle]

is burn distinct from soulblaze in patch notes?

[marble crater]

I guess soulblaze also burns, but it and fire are different things

[keen cargo]

are they refering to really niche stuff like using the kantrael shotgun burn ??

[marble crater]

Nobody really knows from what I am reading

[chrome tangle]

best test it

[marble crater]

How can you test it if you don't even know what the notes are supposed to mean, what will you test

[chrome tangle]

...see if my crit talents still trigger on soulblaze procs

[marble crater]

Nothing feels different and that is good enough for me

[chrome tangle]

i like knowing

[marble crater]

Test it then

[glacial vapor]

Maybe Fatshark threw in an irrelevant patch note to keep everyone on their toes

[chrome tangle]

still triggers

if we're talking about things like mettle, empathic evasion and perfect timing

its probably talking about things like recon infernus

[marble crater]

We will never know

My room is so warm that my baguettes can't cool down fast enough for eating

[glacial vapor]

This heatwave in the UK is wild (16 degrees celsius)

[marble crater]

Respectfully, fuck you

[keen cargo]

you're in France also ? 39 degrees where i am

it's insane

[marble crater]

"Only" 34 here in Germany

[keen cargo]

viel Glück mein freund

(i did german in high school i hope it's like this you say it lol)

[marble crater]

Merci, you too and yes it's correct

[hearty wolf]

Bro what do you mean

I'm fucking BAKING

It's 24

AND IT'S CLOUDY

[summer prairie]

oh the Mister E video claims SB stacks used to crit and constantly proc those talents

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[summer prairie]

no commenter corrects him

[glacial vapor]

Not for everyone

[jovial juniper]

24° is baking?!????!??!?

😭

[spare comet]

Days Since "Arbites OP" Post: 0

[keen cargo]

well don't get me wrong they are fun and i think they should level up the classes to the same level but come on that guy just has an easy answer to any situation

[jovial juniper]

Psyker is top 2

Arby's is like

Fighting for top 3

[glacial vapor]

High humidity and buildings designed for cold weather

[jovial juniper]

Yeah yeah I get it

[glacial vapor]

30 degrees plus in Spain/Portugal feels nice. Here it is the end of the world

[deft stump]

They don't understand 35°C at midnight.

[marble crater]

Buildings are the main problem, they trap so much heat. The wall outside has 46C

[spare comet]

Fixed an issue where Psyker 'on critical hit' talents would trigger when burn stacks are active on enemies.

What does this exactly entail?

I don't understand

Why are people saying this is a huge nerf to Psyker

[marble crater]

Because they also don't understand what it means

[jovial juniper]

Burning enemies would count as critical hits
It's mostly likely a bug fix

Now

They won't talk about the Huge buff to Psyker

[marble crater]

Shush

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

We must spread the word that old mettle is back

[marble crater]

Noooo

[jovial juniper]

(it gets patched next update)

[spare comet]

I don't think Inferno staff counts as burn?

It's soulblaze, no?

IIRC they are two separate things

[marble crater]

But soulblaze 'burns', maybe that part is just unfortunate choice of words?

[jovial juniper]

Warpfire and burn are different yeah

[glacial vapor]

What if Fatshark don't know what they changed?

[spare comet]

Honestly

I wouldn't doubt it.

They have made some oopsies in the past

[spare comet]

There's a CM online but I dunno how I'd get their attention to ask for a patch note clarification

[jovial juniper]

It's simple really

[spare comet]

the last time i pinged a cm in a public discord i got shot to death by the moderators 💔

[jovial juniper]

@burnt oar hi

[spare comet]

thank you for your noble sacrifice

[burnt oar]

👀

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-andrew-gif-3091015989928111603

[spare comet]

no but really

[burnt oar]

let me just check on this as I have a good understanding but want to make sure I get it 1000% correct for you all 🙂

[deft stump]

Naw, Strawhat and now Kitefin are very pingable, as long as you aren't spamming it.

[jovial juniper]

Yeah we're kinda confused if it's just normal burn or soulblaze burn or even both

[hearty wolf]

Nah this is racist

[hearty wolf]

I'm fucking melting

It's like the sun has crashed into earth

I've eaten

Three ice-creams

I've run out of magnums

[jovial juniper]

😭

[hearty wolf]

I'm almost out of cornettos

I'm almost fucked

I have vienetta tho

[glacial vapor]

Great, now I want ice cream

[spare comet]

i think mister e already acted like it was both in his latest video

[hearty wolf]

Nah you can't have it because it's only warm over there

Denied

[spare comet]

if its normal burn only i get to spam ping him to rectify it ❤️

only fair of course

[hearty wolf]

Although Ferrero rocher ice cream does sound pretty lit

I think I can order a shake from Dixy's

[jovial juniper]

Bro eating summer food with 24° 😭

Yeah yeah I know

Doesn't feel like it

Still funny though

[hearty wolf]

We're actually experiencing a dumb problem in the UK.

So we experience about 3k deaths a year due to heat, expected to treble by 2050.

New house builds are making the problem worse because they're energy efficient. Which means they trap more heat in = killing you xd

[glacial vapor]

New build vs 20+ year old house is nuts

New builds are insufferable

Great in the winter though

[hearty wolf]

I've heard rumours of a few think tanks wanting to raise policy concerns and finally push AC as a norm this year though

So maybe in a couple years time, we'll be saved

[marble crater]

awesome, do the new buildings not come with AC at least? This is only getting worse

[hearty wolf]

If you can afford it lol

[glacial vapor]

Great progress for the environment

[hearty wolf]

Of course they don't lmao

[marble crater]

[hearty wolf]

My office has TOO good AC

Like

[glacial vapor]

AC? In the UK? Can I offer you a fan that blows warm air around?

[hearty wolf]

The AC is so strong that it sucks the moisture out of the air and gives people headaches

[deft stump]

$1200?

[deft stump]

Don't remind me.

[marble crater]

AC is for cooling rooms, fans is for cooling people, I will take warm air getting blown around instead of nothing, even if the fan itself makes the room warmer by running

[loud girder]

same issue as the one i installed in my house

i just set it to dry

samsung ACs are built different

[hearty wolf]

Ah I didn't realise it was a common problem

We've had like health reports being done since last year November

People complaining they feel really ill after coming to the office

Seems to be everyone but me

They're not used to sitting in a chair for 19h per day playing darktide and inhaling my cat fur infested air or smth

[loud girder]

it mostly happens when u install something too big for a specific room lol

i replaced it with one that's meant for smaller rooms and not massive office spaces

[cosmic sigil]

Sometimes bigger is not the answer

[deft stump]

I think some idiot has the remote set to dry.

[marble crater]

Gamers are built different

[upper sun]

arbities is so broken a NOOB like me finally got flawless execution.......

[jovial juniper]

Can't believe Clad would play such baby class

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-astroworld-travis-head-travis-scott-head-travis-scott-headache-gif-23896240

[upper sun]

ur just mad vet is now dead

[deft stump]

Noob can't even get it on psyker.

[marble crater]

Congratulations

[jovial juniper]

Lore accurate vet

[marble crater]

What's Flawless Execution?

[upper sun]

i got A.S.S 2x on psyker 3x on zealot

i dont have to prove anything to miss throw grenades all game!!!!!

[deft stump]

No downs 15 games malice.

[upper sun]

15 missions on malice+ without going down

[deft stump]

I did it on psyker.

[upper sun]

it was bugged for me tho

i think it didnt progress across characters or something

[marble crater]

Should be damnation instead of malice

[deft stump]

Why I get to point and snark.

[upper sun]

thats purple

[deft stump]

Bonus, IDK how to play then.

Was like within 1 month of starting.

I just wanted all those done and dumped.

[deft stump]

I mean, I did ASS on vet.

[upper sun]

🚬 if ogryn was reworked then id do 5x on ogryn

[deft stump]

You know, worst class. Melee 'nadier vet.

[jovial juniper]

You call throwing grenades around Martial Arts?

[deft stump]

Throw them to open them up for a shank.

[glacial vapor]

I was on for flawless on arbites

Then Rodin hit me with the shield bug

[marble crater]

You should move to the UK, you will fit right in

[deft stump]

WOT.

[marble crater]

What?

[upper sun]

deserved for playing campaign

[hearty wolf]

When I pull a fast one without needing to open the hub

[marble crater]

[hearty wolf]

Yeah they're saying it's something to do with the room being over capacity. Too many people in the room causes the fans to spin faster which lowers the amount of oxygen in the room or something

Each monthly update we get about it, they keep adding more words and complex floor plans

I'm starting to think they're making shit up lmao

[loud girder]

corporate people in a nutshell

[marble crater]

That doesn't sound... What

[deft stump]

WDYM, move to UK?

[marble crater]

They also like knives and shanking people

[hearty wolf]

Can confirm

But bro if you gave me an Arbites Shock Maul

I'd be whacking every mf in the hood

[upper sun]

the combos on that thing are great

[hearty wolf]

Yeah I'd go from push attack to heavy just like that

I'd switch up on those famalamadingdongs

[deft stump]

Oh.

[young cliff]

So seriously, who knew Empathic evasion was triggering on soulflames? I take staff builds using it aren't that good now?

[summer prairie]

it wasn't

[deft stump]

The flaw about Arbys, no knoife.

[summer prairie]

it's a lie

EE on purg feels the same as before

they didn't even touch EE

[marble crater]

Kitefin is checking and getting back to us about that note

[young cliff]

Can you ask kitefin when they are gonna fixe the surety of arms perk giving the old 25% peril instead of 15%?

[marble crater]

I don't have a direct line of communication with them

[young cliff]

Neither I, I cry

[strange hamlet]

siblings, theoretically would it be possible make an efficient build centered around purposefully going nuclear

[deft stump]

Uprising? Sure.

[glacial vapor]

People have tried

[glacial vapor]

Sadly it doesn't actually do much

[strange hamlet]

there has to be a way it can be done and viable for higher level stuff

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

You ain't really hitting 1400 + damage

You can try Uncanny Strike though

Put on Illisi

Stack Uncanny

Stroke illisi until 100 peril

Boom

Illisi Executor

Uncanny Strike

[deft stump]

To grief, maybe.

[burnt oar]

okay so there was a bug where damage dealt by the damage over time from the burning effect on enemies would be accepted if you started a critical attack. If you put an enemy on fire and let it burn and then start shooting/hitting a wall or into nothing and roll a critical attack the next damage tick from the burning enemy would count as a critical attack and trigger the talent. Does that make sense haha?

[deft stump]

A bot would be more useful just for the ammo aura if all you do is lemmings.

[deft stump]

So it worked the way I thought it did.

[strange hamlet]

there is that one talent that can allow you to survive peril bomb at the cost of the corruption damage

[deft stump]

Yes, but you are eating all the stims and medicae at some point.

[jovial juniper]

Thank you Kitefin

🫡

Hehe

Burning Crit String

[deft stump]

If that isn't griefing on purpose... more so if you take medicae from less than 4 charges stations, then IDK how you can't see it. Maybe entitlement.

[marble crater]

Thank you

So that bug fix clearly means psyker is dead, because that definitely wasn't a small niche thing

[deft stump]

They broke mettle again so, trade?

[marble crater]

I'm being sarcastic

[long wharf]

has anyone else gotten new crash to desktops since the patch?

[marble crater]

Not me, but I have seen randoms in my missions disconnect and come back again, more often than usually

[upper sun]

nope just game crashes during missions

[long wharf]

twice yesterday I crashed to desktop, once in mission, once on the mourningstar

[vestal trench]

since i cant get away with just running to the objective the way arbites do bc of their tankiness, should i just focus on finding a good position and thinning out a horde instead of trying to keep up with their rushing? forgot to ask last night

[deft stump]

Basically. Unless you get a brickwall deciding to pocket the psyker/vet while everyone else runs off.

[vestal trench]

damn so i rly gotta learn to last stand the horde on maelstrom 🫠

welp, this is the class ive chosen to main

[deft stump]

Brickwalls can either be an oggy or an arby. Just tank mindset.

[marble crater]

You should try to keep up imo, the closer you are the better the faster they can help you.

If you are lagging behind a few times then it might be because they are rushing, if you lag behind all the time then you might be too slow, but that problem solves itself after you know the maps and spawns better and also know where to fight and where not to fight

[deft stump]

Naw, they are rushing. I ran double shields and got left behind by tacaxe arbys often.

[hearty wolf]

@summer prairie so you don't miss out on this info

[deft stump]

I'm fine but not everyone can deal with it.

[marble crater]

🧎‍♂️ please carry me

[summer prairie]

I saw, what a weird thing to fix but good

[deft stump]

Do you want to play damnation?

[hearty wolf]

Damnation 🐨

[marble crater]

Not really

[summer prairie]

You can't really abuse that either

[vestal trench]

i try to keep up but there were def some sus moments keeping up in one of my games (running through flame explosions/barrels/gas bc the arbys rushed through them)

[deft stump]

See.

[vestal trench]

but ig that was better than getting left behind and dying 💀

[deft stump]

Look, I get to slack around.

[vestal trench]

oh and is deimos vs obscurus mostly preference? i cant tell what one does better than the other, they both have great single target and passable horde

[jovial juniper]

Yeah mostly preference

[deft stump]

Yes, just don't Illisi untill it's buffed or you really love stroking your sword.

[jovial juniper]

But obscurus kill armor faster

Do illisi

Don't listen to them

They don't stroke enough

Strogonoff

[marble crater]

Illisi seems fine?

[vestal trench]

yeah im running obscurus rn since the combos feel better without having to block cancel

[jovial juniper]

Where was I

Oh yeah

Obscurus kills armor faster

Deimos H2 sits enemies down if they survive

[deft stump]

It's just not as good as the other two now.

[jovial juniper]

So it's safer

[vestal trench]

cant you sit enemies down with the push attack too tho?

[deft stump]

You sound like a Zealot or...

[vestal trench]

or is deimos h2 more potent against bigger bois

[marble crater]

I won't complain about a buff, but it's not unusable

[deft stump]

Just mediocre basically.

[marble crater]

You can knock them down, or you can knock them down and deal a huge amount of damage at the same time

[vestal trench]

...good point

[marble crater]

That said, the push attack has a lot more range, so there are still situations where you might use it

[ornate hamlet]

arbites sucks

[marble crater]

[summer prairie]

Ok, yeah you keep bleed stack ownership if you first apply it via other means (e.g. puncture) and then keep the stacks up with the razor-jaw dog. But you don't gain ownership if the dog applies it first

[marble crater]

Because the dog is the owner and since they are such good boys and girls, they don't mind giving it to someone else

[jovial juniper]

Needs more than 1

[summer prairie]

This ogryn wasn't having a good time in h40

[jovial juniper]

Unironically the best way of using Illisi

[marble crater]

Damn, if he can do it, then I can do it too

[summer prairie]

was a console player yeah

[deft stump]

I know.

[summer prairie]

We had 3 sub 30min h40s then the ogryn player changed and had a 52min one

[zinc phoenix]

ok i am starting to get the mk6

did a h36 with it as bubble knight and had a good bit of fun whacking the armor

will say i like the build better with one less toughness node and taking quietude tho

had an infantry las vet whose build i desperately wanted to steal, smh he left before i could

[summer prairie]

recon is your emergency toughness with that build

[fathom adder]

How is the old shock maul after its buffs? Thinking I might remake my psyker into a Psi-Judge once I get my Arbites penances done

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-metal-gear-rising-thinking-stroke-chin-i-think-i-agree-with-that-gif-17031341935115353307

[zinc phoenix]

i tend to save it for monstrosity but i can dig it

mostly i use the traditional method for psyker survival tho: dont be hit

kek

[plucky flax]

If you have a vet you can afford to shoot recon quite a lot

For speed boost and specials / elite shooters

[zinc phoenix]

i have had vet basically never but was super hype when i got one

[plucky flax]

Its very efficient gun

[zinc phoenix]

well the other issue is i likes me stabbin

[dull scroll]

recon is a long range purge staff

[zinc phoenix]

like if given the choice between a nice safe shooty kill and stabbing something in the face i will always pick stab

so i never really think of the gun

fuck bon tho he gets the gun

[plucky flax]

No bon is easy mk6 damage farming

Put bubble on it and stab through it's mouth to its back

[zinc phoenix]

its too gross

[plucky flax]

[sturdy reef]

Heavy laspistol my beloved

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna play?

[hearty wolf]

LOL

[hearty wolf]

Is this a mk6 special or can other weps pull that off consistently?

[plucky flax]

Any weapon with a stab melee attack

Mk6 is easiest cos of huge range

[hearty wolf]

I see

But how does it work cos wouldn't you just hit the head first

[summer prairie]

it's weapon hitbox priority, both the weapon and enemy have hitboxes

[hearty wolf]

Interesting.

But it doesn't double dip, it just decides to apply it to the back weak point rather than head?

[summer prairie]

having the game calculate what you are hitting per attack rather than every frame or something makes more sense for playability and efficiency

if it didn't do that you could e.g. hit their arms first if the enemy is doing an overhead or just their hitbox is moving around

even worse if the attack hitbox is a large projectile

those are per weapon settings

though no idea how the BoN back weakspot is handled when the weapon doesn't have a priority setting for it

[plucky flax]

[summer prairie]

ok it uses the default priority and weakspot is priority 0

[pearl viper]

Man I love the greatsword

[deft stump]

Stop gaslighting ppl ffs.

[marble crater]

Sorry it was me

[gray juniper]

Omg I’d leave less matches frustrated if this was the case

[keen cargo]

what is your favorite force sword ? I am getting a bit fed up with the greatsword version it's very good but i get caught with it sometimes cause of the speed

[marble crater]

Illisi if I need horde clear
Deimos if I need big damage against single targets

[keen cargo]

i was using Obscurus a lot lately

[marble crater]

It's too complicated for me

[gray juniper]

No bullshit I buy base model Xbox ones because all the “pro” controllers are more expensive but none the more sturdy. Regulars at least last half a year or longer

[hearty wolf]

Oh twins, me too. I really like Xbox controller I have rn

I think it's the series X one

Or S

Fuck knows, naming is confusing

[marble crater]

Gamesir G7 SE, thank me later

No, since it works on Xbox now the Gamesir Kaleid

[jovial juniper]

Illisi all the way

[patent steeple]

I myself use Obscurus on most staff builds, just because I can do both horde clear and single target with it equally well (heavy -> light -> stabbing light for single target, and the sweeping heavy -> sweeping light loop for hordes)...

[deft stump]

Make sure you sell the one with the mechanical buttons.

[deft stump]

You can buy like 3-4 of those vs 1 official.

So even if you somehow break one in a year, you have 3 more.

[marble crater]

That's the Kaleid, no?

[deft stump]

They have a model with membranes.

[umbral atlas]

I choose force swords purely on vibes

[marble crater]

Kaleid Flux, I see

[umbral atlas]

For the regular one I go with the one with all the light overheads, I've heard uh Obscurus is really good but I don't like its special

[deft stump]

Thus, gotta be careful.

[umbral atlas]

For greatsword, I'm all about that uppercut

[marble crater]

Mine has membrane as well, it's not the end of the world, but if I could trade it for the Kaleid, I would immediately

[deft stump]

I know. The clickity is nice.

[gray juniper]

Ngl that sounds hella selfish “look at me” ass build for something you’d think you want to be sure to keep you team up in

[ripe obsidian]

Most arbiters I see in havoc are very "look at me"

[flint spear]

hi guys, is there a way to reduce the effect of the infernostaff fflame? i mean its cool and all but I cant see sh it

[deft stump]

Most ppl skip on Nuncios. those thing turn 55 toughness into an iron wall, lmao.

[ripe obsidian]

Because they're bugged

They give 70% TDR instead of 30%

[gray juniper]

Always coming with the heat

[gray juniper]

Wdym like knock offs with better warranties or something?

[deft stump]

Naw, I will say the same, just different model... Sad they nolonger sell the model I like.

[umbral atlas]

I have a gamesir G8 for my phone and its good. Also use it as a switch controller

[covert saffron]

nexusmods "I wanna see"

[umbral atlas]

Really good button and stick quality, I was surprised

[flint spear]

ty

[deft stump]

Considering the price to more official stuff, yeah.

Though for xbox, they kinda are "official" now.

[deft stump]

No, they just are more durable. The karker I have lasted longer than any series x/s one I had.

Well, is still working, but the left bumper isn't as good now... DT dodge button lul.

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch @nocturne dust

[marble crater]

But I change my recommendation to the Kaleid (not flux)

[deft stump]

Or wait for the upcoming one with 4 extra buttons.

https://gamesir.com/collections/xbox-controller/products/gamesir-g7-pro

Like 1/4th the price of an elite.

[gray juniper]

This is my orgyn player problem a lot of the time. It’s fine to glory hound some if you have to but 1. Stop blocking my shots 2. I’m already handling a rager/mauler/crusher, why the fuck aren’t you handling the pow walkers that hit me 4 seconds later if you arrived 3 seconds ago to try to grab this kill yourself?

[gray juniper]

Ok got it

[main widget]

Would you say psyker is the last class I should try? I get the impression that they're hard to play.

[deft stump]

I'm excited at everything BUT the price.

Like double my budget, lmao.

[deft stump]

https://gamesir.com/collections/xbox-controller/products/gamesir-kaleid-xbox-controller

He meant that one btw.

Oh and that's the official store so... heh.

[ripe obsidian]

I do not love when I, as a Purgatus Psyker, am clearing chaff so my team can handle a boss or something, then 2 other people come over to inflate their damage numbers. Like, I got this. I am doing my part. Go do yours.

[hearty wolf]

NAH

MY FRIEND

HE PRONOUNCED ARBITES

"R-Bites"

😭

[keen cargo]

Oh yeah how come Illsi, what perks blessings you usually use cause it does struggle with carapace and unyielding

[deft stump]

Oh and we need to add, we are not paid for this and gain no revenue or anything for it.

[deft stump]

But isn't there Arby's? Or Orbeez?

[gray juniper]

I like the second option you posting but hopefully they come without the lights

[ripe obsidian]

Pronounce it like "diabetes." It's both accurate and stupid. "Ar-bee-tees."

[spare comet]

ok ima be real

i am not doing great with gaze

[spare comet]

does anyone have a rupture build

[gray juniper]

Probably your weapon load out

[zinc phoenix]

melee as psyker is something that takes time, dont be surprised if it is challenging at first

[deft stump]

You can turn it off in the software.

[spare comet]

I constantly go down. I have never had this much trouble in the game before except I started playing Psyker

[gray juniper]

Ok good and noted

[zinc phoenix]

you have to learn how to read a situation and work out when it is safe to engage + where you can engage with highest impact

[umbral atlas]

Gaze clicked for me because I can just play a melee psycho like I do on zealot. It's just a lot more punishing if you get hit though

And doing infernus recon lasgun is a blast

[zinc phoenix]

it has a massively higher skill bar than other melee in high difficulty modes

[gray juniper]

Probably should start with gun even if that’s against the point of your aims or how fun it seems

[jovial juniper]

Oh I use the forbidden Uncanny Precognition

[deft stump]

Assuming PC. IDK the Xbox app. Ask Sut for it.

[jovial juniper]

The proper one would be Uncanny Slaughterer

[keen cargo]

yeah i wish precog lasted a tad more cause it's really good

[zinc phoenix]

are you using the pinned gaze build and loadout?

[spare comet]

i've trashtalked gunker too much already 💔

[hearty wolf]

Anyone for low havocs?

[zinc phoenix]

i am actually available

[gray juniper]

It’s a necessary step for experience through

[hearty wolf]

o wicked

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042858226770780230

Any1 else

[jovial juniper]

Slaughterer Precognition is also pretty good

[spare comet]

Huh

[jovial juniper]

More burst than uncanny

[keen cargo]

but how take care of the carapace and boss then hehe

[upper sun]

what gayme?

[gray juniper]

How low do you mean by low? If low to you is 30 I don’t think I can hang

[hearty wolf]

am full with randoms

[jovial juniper]

Slaughterer Precognition

[hearty wolf]

will let you both know if thing change

[upper sun]

is it havoc

[hearty wolf]

ye

[zinc phoenix]

#psyker-class message

[jovial juniper]

Then you spam special light/heavy

[upper sun]

blocked

[hearty wolf]

but is only like 25

is baby

it's like

heresy

:(

[upper sun]

no

[keen cargo]

i'll give it a try but the 2 sec duration on precog i find is way too short

[zinc phoenix]

The big reason to take a gun with gaze is it gives you monstrosity damage

[deft stump]

I thought you had Sin blocked for ages already like everyone else?

[zinc phoenix]

And another source of toughness

[upper sun]

blocked

[jovial juniper]

With 5 stacks of uncanny and Precognition a special heavy does like

1500 to unyielding

[deft stump]

I thought I was blocked already?

[upper sun]

ur double blocked now

[jovial juniper]

With 5 slaughterer and Precognition

2k

[keen cargo]

ok i'll give it a try , unyielding carapace / precog and slaughterer then ?

[zinc phoenix]

So what are the rules for how host level bumps up after a high level havoc clear? I cleared a 36 and got bumped host level from 23 to 26

I don’t see what arcane math takes 13 and ends up with 3?

[deft stump]

Okay then.

[spare comet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/terrible-melee-psyker-build

See I've been using... basically this

[deft stump]

That's the max. 10 lvls or higher +3.

[zinc phoenix]

This build is dogshit so that’s part of your issue 😂

[prime elk]

Your increase is now capped at 3

[zinc phoenix]

Le sigh

[prime elk]

So no more jumping directly to 40

[spare comet]

@proper osprey I gotta kill you

[prime elk]

Gotta grind

[deft stump]

It was there since 2.0.

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve mostly ignored havoc and the game since 2.0

I came back for dog patch

[keen cargo]

you have too much damage and no stagger/survival tools

[jovial juniper]

Unyielding puts Bulwarks at 2 weakspot hits with Slaughterer and Precognition up

[proper osprey]

[spare comet]

Why this??

[jovial juniper]

Carapace still 4

[gray juniper]

That’s for people very seasoned in gaze and definitely niche use/player

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f33d4ba-5804-4491-bc5a-1dc24fe93a81/gaze-with-recon-lasgun

[keen cargo]

ok so carapace is not a good breakpoint, flak i guess then ?

[zinc phoenix]

Because it’s actually very good

[gray juniper]

I’m more mid level like yourself. Try this

[zinc phoenix]

As psyker you want to hunt the fancy stuff

[proper osprey]

It’s melee psyker its not dogshit

[spare comet]

i've been running your build and absolutely suffering

[zinc phoenix]

Just play the pinned build I linked you and ignore the meme builds from gameslantern

[spare comet]

I will strike you down for this

[deft stump]

Oh. It sucks but yeah.

[gray juniper]

So you can leave the room and forget those guys chasing you lol

[proper osprey]

Have you tried using different weapons?

[jovial juniper]

It's a safe pick

[gray juniper]

@spare comet he’s right that’s the safest bet

[spare comet]

i think ur right

[proper osprey]

Me when I’m wrong

[spare comet]

Also I'm using Voidblast

I really do not want to swap to gunker :(

[zinc phoenix]

Btw for weapons you want the mk6 unless you have a strong preference for mk8. A solid chunk of the damage comes from triggering perilous combustion on stuff and the mk6 makes it easier to hunt the targets that trigger perilous combustion

[zinc phoenix]

Gaze blast is tricky, get used to psyker melee with gun before doing it

[gray juniper]

Damn i didn’t know this : ^(

[spare comet]

i'd have to empower and level up yet another weapon 💔

wait

which gun do you suggest

[jovial juniper]

Here's the thing
You need 5 Slaughterer and Precognition

[proper osprey]

Also yeah if you want more from vb go blazing spirit and warp nexuses, and drop warp expd for pc

[zinc phoenix]

Any of laspistol, recon las or vraks auto gun are fun

[gray juniper]

You’re going to catch hell trying to start using gaze correctly with a staff. Watch your peril climb fast

[spare comet]

good thing i already have mastery on that

[proper osprey]

@spare comet also props to you using melee psyker in havoc like I do

[gray juniper]

Are you serious? You mean five stacks of these perk?

[zinc phoenix]

Again tho for gaze psyker the gun is a secondary that you use to obliterate bosses or reapers, you want to primarily be using your sword while weaving in assail strikes

[jovial juniper]

Slaughterer stacked 5 times yes

[spare comet]

I've not even played Psyker in Havoc.

I play Ogryn into Havoc.

[tulip kettle]

you cant play any of this nonsense as psyker in havoc with pubs realistically

[zinc phoenix]

It’s important to weave assail while meleeing to ensure you’re getting boosted damage from your traits

[spare comet]

I just hit level 30

[gray juniper]

@spare comet yoo follow this. Other suggestions might get you killed outright

[proper osprey]

I’m sorry then yeah melee psyker is very niche

It take getting used too

[zinc phoenix]

I pug with bubble knight in high havoc, it’s fine

[tulip kettle]

your team is crying 🙂

[zinc phoenix]

My team is getting carried so they don’t mind 🤷‍♀️

[umbral atlas]

If you go bubble over gaze then staff is more friendly on a crit build

[spare comet]

you know what

why don't i just go around all this

and play a rupture shriek build

[umbral atlas]

I've been running voidblast on my gaze but I only use it occasionally

[zinc phoenix]

You can do that, but learning melee on psyker is core to skilling up as psyker

[spare comet]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-sometimes-my-genius-almost-frightening-driving-car-ride-gif-12235698292103539607