psyker-class

[strong gulch]

bad memory

like cool toned blue. More blue than than EP smite

[gray juniper]

Idk it’s near purple to me

Staff is definitely blue tho

[true lake]

what perks do you guys usually recommend for inferno staff?

[ripe obsidian]

Flak/Unyielding or Flak/Maniac, I believe.

I use Flak/Unyielding to hurt bosses

[true lake]

i might have to switch the blessings at some point because i aint got much to work with so far

not the biggest fan of the weapon level system but it does build up to give you a lot more freedom when you get enough levels

[ripe obsidian]

It is infinitely better than it used to be

[strong gulch]

Guess my memory is just bad re smite colors. It's been known to happen.

[ripe obsidian]

Used to be 100% random

[runic tiger]

I used to think Smite was great until I got to Maelstrom, getting staggered as a team is so dangerous at harder difficulties

[ebon nymph]

They hate us smiters cause we are og wizards not methbenders or brainpoppers

On that note, hi Darktoys gang. Whats the best way to frame the two force greatswords and what would be a great all-rounder build for a Psyker. I prefer my ability be the bubble dome cause i find it so useful and love protecting the homies.

[ripe obsidian]

https://youtu.be/8Lfy8G_Xv0Q?si=-_xNixOFNFeUsjlE

[ebon nymph]

Reviewing the scrolls…

[true lake]

got to love deciding to goof around on auric maelstrom with a friend then getting shit talked by a random

i didnt even intend to win i just was having fun with said friend lol

[gray juniper]

Meth benders. I’m dead

[potent echo]

arbites having such a strong kit at 300hp and 200 toughness is kinda dumb

[worldly elm]

I think every class should be brough up to the Arbitrator's level

Except veteran

Veteran mains can suffer

They can think about what they've done.

[pine shore]

what did they do?

[potent echo]

psykers need 300hp too

i just played tactical axe vraks arby

feels like he can easily solo anything

even if you get dogged you got your own dog

[strong gulch]

so just gotta what out for a single net

one net to rule them all

[potent echo]

wow also new evisc is peak

no more weird lag on 2nd heavy

[ripe obsidian]

I need to try the new evis

No more cleave limit makes me happy

[summer prairie]

Brainburst base damage is 900, Brain rupture increases it by 50% to 1350 but EP also only increases the base damage by 50%. Additive not multiplicative

[ebon nymph]

im glad i could get a giggle out of you sibling

[potent echo]

is it time to retire my 60% cleave evis

although its only loseing like 1 cleave

or less than that

[gray juniper]

The problem with meth bending is you get hooked the very first time!

[deft stump]

The only fear is nets. You can slow solo a pogryn and CSpawn... but trappers just scare the dook outta me. 400 ping NA E things.

[jovial juniper]

Thx

Yeah that makes sense

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

Fym EP takes BB damage and not BR damage in consideration

[weary idol]

not great, but with practice this can probably down mauler packs reasonably quickly

Mk IV Dclaw sword

[strong gulch]

Valid af

even on good ping trappers sometimes ignore staggers and interrupts

[potent echo]

now add a bulwark in there

[deft stump]

You need to have IRL precog and dodge before warning or blep.

You hear warning, you dooked already.

[strong gulch]

Hope the dodge isn't in the wrong direction

[deft stump]

Basically.

[runic tiger]

I like when trappers shoot you through a crowd of walkers, the net is immaterial until it hits me

[strong gulch]

Around a corner

Through terrain

[deft stump]

You mean behind a wall.

[strong gulch]

Yes

[deft stump]

An actual wall, not even just a pillar.

[weary idol]

doesn't actually make much difference

[obtuse bluff]

what stat should I drop for voidblast staff?

[weary idol]

anyways shout out to maulers for sometimes just missing on purpose???

that makes testing these mauler stacks very annoying

also god why does the devil's claw have 3 nearly identical impact blessings

fatshark please

why

[nocturne dust]

very cool, now let's see the decent clear time

[shut breach]

Another particularly stupid penance marked off

[shut breach]

Because bluntsword funny

[jovial juniper]

Hit too much flak, tip bended

[weary idol]

no :)

[jovial juniper]

[ebon nymph]

it was quite fun

but now i am searching for a wizard build. straight casting it, but also protecting the homies, Ill try out bubble knight but any other contributors?

[deft stump]

Just to scare you, I guess. Or if you dodge into it.

[strong gulch]

See pins

[nocturne dust]

Staffkers > Bubble Knight

[ripe obsidian]

Anyone wanna do havocy things?

[plucky flax]

Soon maybe. Play 1 game first

I just got up need coffee breakfast

[weary idol]

man

[ripe obsidian]

This is an unfortunate game so far. 2x teammates have blown up bursters on me

[plucky flax]

Must had been beans

[ripe obsidian]

Also, the ovenproof scoreboard fix is super buggy

Oh, they just blew up a third burster on themselves. I continue to be dead from the second one.

[plucky flax]

Ye it counts psyker damage as melee

But overall total damage should still be correct anyway

Also the electric portion of dog is in melee damage too

So dog does more than the companion damage listing

(And thus you do less melee damage)

[summer prairie]

I think I fixed my ovenproof so that it includes the electric in companion too

[nocturne dust]

sometimes it be like that

[plucky flax]

You fixed it yourself?

Give me your lua file.

[summer prairie]

Not very hard if you know damage profiles, can give in a few minutes

I'll test psyker first too

[plucky flax]

Should let backup on modder discord know.

[summer prairie]

It'll probably count old shock maul special damage as companion, but that's better than the current behavior

[plucky flax]

So they can update on nexus.

[summer prairie]

He should know how to do this based on some comments, maybe he is just busy

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I know how to do it, so they definitely should, yeah

[summer prairie]

Or he wanted to do it in a way that keeps old maul dot as melee

[weary idol]

gonna show up at fatshark HQ and throw a rock with pictures of games that sync enemy locations but not damage/hitboxes through their window

[plucky flax]

@ripe obsidian I can play soon after getting secret sauce from syllo

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, lemme finish this match

I am not doing great. Crushers are bullying me

[nocturne dust]

possible, might be worthwhile to separate it into its own category like other DoTs

[summer prairie]

it's possible that if I put shockmaul_stun_interval_damage under melee too, it will count old maul dot damage as melee and companion dot as companion due to different attack_types but didn't test it, not like we use the old

[deft stump]

That's normal at high ping.

Which could explain certain other issues playing at 400 ping because NA W was ded and I had to NA E half asleep.

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but it showing up at low ping is a problem

well, it showing up at all is a problem, but it showing up at low ping is worse since the game is ostensibly supposed to be functioning well™ at that point

[plucky flax]

Did you manage to fix psyker damage?

[summer prairie]

yes

[deft stump]

Then FS net code lul. To be fair, I don't get it at 5 ping. It's only past 100 where I start seeing it.

Though I wonder if it's because I'm used to it I don't see the extent of the bs.

[ripe obsidian]

I am ready whenever

[summer prairie]

I can play a round as psyker

[deft stump]

I'm honestly not sure if they can fix it without basically making a new game maybe on a better engine.

[ripe obsidian]

If you're being Psyker, I can try being Arbites, so as not to overlap too much

[plucky flax]

Get on sons.

[ripe obsidian]

I am on. >:(

[hearty wolf]

Time to level

[summer prairie]

@plucky flax

[plucky flax]

700k damage from dog + bleed bomb.

[summer prairie]

This is without voltaic mandibles, kind of high monster damage

[plucky flax]

It's cos I have + damage on charge for dog.

[summer prairie]

Voltaic

[plucky flax]

So I just keep spamming f and the dog does more passive damage.

[summer prairie]

so 140k monster damage

[plucky flax]

It lasts for 12s.

So I have perma up time.

+50% dog damage. Dunno if that both the bite + the electric or not.

[hearty wolf]

That's what I've been doing too

[summer prairie]

it's only the pounce damage

[plucky flax]

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you for the carry. I am now like... 1 win, 16 losses in Havoc since the reset.

[plucky flax]

There's a new patch for the ovenproof plugin on nexus.

Is it the same as just what you did?

Changelog is not updated.

[summer prairie]

I'll check

it's only localization

the other luas are still 3 days old

[plucky flax]

Scammed.

[summer prairie]

he hasn't even reverted warpfire/bleed/burn counting as melee

[plucky flax]

So the dog damage sub talent on charge only affect the very initial first hit?

Not even when it latches on to monster?

[summer prairie]

no it should affect that too, haven't tested though

just not voltaic dot

[plucky flax]

Oh then that's still good.

[summer prairie]

usually it won't have time to farm monster damage, depends on the team I guess

[plucky flax]

I went down cos this guy had book but didn't wanna cast it.

He casted though after I went down. Clutch.

[hearty wolf]

He's flaming with the Psyker

priorities

[plucky flax]

Don't you know voidshield take extra damage from flamer?

Always use flamethrower there.

[hearty wolf]

He was actually hoping you'd go down because you were ruining his flamer's penetration

rookie mistake

Ignore the fact that you weren't in front of him for 90% of the clip

[plucky flax]

They should make the bleed behaviour the same as the shock. So everything pounced also get bleed.

Not just when being knocked.

More monsters damage.

[ripe obsidian]

I think I did that at least once because I was trying not to overlap with the other Zealot

And I held it too long

[plucky flax]

It was my fault for going down.

I just wished book was used is all.

[fierce crest]

is the heavy sword just garbage

been maxing weapons

and most that people consider bad still felt fine

chaxes are a bit slow but fine

[wraith sphinx]

Er

[nocturne dust]

It's not that garbage

[fierce crest]

shock mauls feel good actually

but holy

[nocturne dust]

Maul is decent

[wraith sphinx]

Hsword will punish you greatly if you don't heavy attack all the time

[fierce crest]

the heavy sword feels like it does no damage

[nocturne dust]

Hsword kills many things that you as a psyker kill anyway, like horde or ragers or shotgunners

Hsword does nothing for carapace

[wraith sphinx]

Do not use hsword light attacks outside of edge cases of like poxwalker swarms while ur dd is maxed and sg is up

[fierce crest]

wasnt using sg but warp rider and a few DD and it was

mediocre

[zinc phoenix]

It feels much better on zealot

[fierce crest]

i was using the mk7 and doing heavy > light loop for hordes and just heavy spam for single

maybe another mark is better?

[wraith sphinx]

That's the 2nd mark on the list right?

[fierce crest]

its the one that has a wide swing on its first heavy

the other two had overheads

its the third one

ahh

the mk9, the second in the list, doesnt loop back to the first heavy

i see

so you can get 2 heavy sweeps looping

and l1 skips h1, so you can get to sweeping faster

[halcyon obsidian]

Does EP benefits Kinetic Flyer? Or only Brain Burst like how its in the Tooltip written, someone tested it?

[marble crater]

Flayer gets EP bonus damage without using a stack

[halcyon obsidian]

Ok thanks I am testing it in the Psykhanum atm but cant say for sure it does

[marble crater]

Test it on crushers

[fierce crest]

~1400 without, ~1800 with

[zinc phoenix]

EP honestly needs a rework, it doesn’t do enough to justify taking it over dd or warp charges

[hearty wolf]

Taking EP should lock you out of using smite, double BB's damage and make it AoE

It turns assail shards into nukes

all left clicks have same strength as right click

Right click throws all 10

if 2 shards stick into an enemy, they detonate

[zinc phoenix]

Turning assail into a mega nuke would honestly be funny enough to get me to take it

[wheat seal]

Auric lobby

[hearty wolf]

we have small assail shard but what about BIG assail shardf

[hearty wolf]

oo

can you pull me into that

[zinc phoenix]

Like DD benefit is I am better at all the movement and combat stuff that makes up the core of Darktide. Warp charges let me spam blitz and give me some minor boosts to damage when not using. EP slightly improving blitz ehhhhh

[wheat seal]

bro

[hearty wolf]

ye so what

it's baby auric

[wheat seal]

lvl20 in Auric?

[zinc phoenix]

Sin is good enough that it’s not an issue fr

[hearty wolf]

He's gone radio silent

it's doomed

off to the Heresy shadowlands

I pray for no smyker

[plucky flax]

Imagine playing auric as sub 30 smh

[wheat seal]

can't kill heretics and write in dc

[hearty wolf]

chatblock where

[plucky flax]

This game is very serious i only want lvl 100+ in my lobby

[wheat seal]

Nowhere

[hearty wolf]

😭

[deft stump]

Poor you.

[hearty wolf]

Nah

Oh I misread

I thought my companion did more damage than someone

Angry level 40 raging that he was holding us hostage on the phage tree

[deft stump]

Couldn't get him to die leaving him back?

[hearty wolf]

I used both my shock mines so he had like 30s of uninterrupted time

after that I just let him get mauled by a rager pack

[deft stump]

He couldn't deal with a pack somehow as Arby?

[hearty wolf]

He was trying to do the phage tree event thingy

where you gotta press the green circles

but he was taking forever

[deft stump]

Oh, so you are saying he sucked at the minigame.

[hearty wolf]

yes

[deft stump]

To be fair, no instructions.

Also, if you let him get bombed, there's a chance his game will crash.

IDK why, but you can crash leaving the minigame after being firebombed if you run shield and shotpistol.

[hearty wolf]

Strange xd

[deft stump]

It happened to me.

I got lucky the other guy could use 2 health kits to survive while i reconnected.

It's only the tree minigame. Didn't crash after I swapped to bistol so IDK what is going on.

[hearty wolf]

shotpistol is clearly too powerful

[deft stump]

Shrugs.

[hearty wolf]

airlock waiting room

[deft stump]

Ah pubs.

[marble crater]

Perfect voice line

[hearty wolf]

This class is insane at pushing ahead solo

I got destroyed cos I was chilling with my dog and for some reason I was like

"I can't be disabled, I don't even need to care about anything"

(I forgot trappers exist, why can dog not get me out of net?)

And the other time I got overheaded cos I ran out of effective dodges, oopsie

[marble crater]

So good at pushing ahead that I constantly notice people out of coherency

Even had someone beg the team to stick together, either yesterday or the day before.
I'm not innocent, I push and push and don't even notice because there is little to watch out for, everything is constantly staggered

[summer prairie]

I made a version of Ovenproof that separates blitz damage from ranged/melee, if someone wants to test it. I didn't test vet/ogryn stuff @plucky flax

[wheat seal]

sometimes in the steam guide, there is no pictures for the talent tree, this is normal or?

[plucky flax]

Okay I play after watching f1.

What blitz?

[summer prairie]

all

there's a Total Blitz category now that includes only BB,grenades, throwing knives, smite etc

[plucky flax]

Oh even for assails stuff?

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

That's good.

So the dog electric.

Is that blitz or dog's?

The dog mine.

[summer prairie]

dog explosion is blitz currently

[plucky flax]

Ye that'd be my preferred.

[summer prairie]

in normal ovenproof it is ranged

[plucky flax]

I'll test it throughout next week.

[summer prairie]

zealot fire grenades are burn though

I don't even know if they add burn stacks or do separate damage, could move them to blitz too

[fierce crest]

speaking of, bleed not showing, is that a known bug?

[summer prairie]

Get my version above instead, the current beta update is bugged

or revert to an older version of the one on nexus

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it’s pretty nuts only needing to care about trappers. Crusher right side lets me bat away any heavy stuff so no risk of overheads 😂

[fierce crest]

of the patch? im already not using the latest one

[summer prairie]

it has been bugged for a few updates

[fierce crest]

theres 1.0.5, 1.0.6, and 1.1.2 available

06 is fine?

[summer prairie]

Sure, I don't know which ones are bugged specifically

[fierce crest]

or just use yours lul

reading

[summer prairie]

You'll probably lose Companion damage category if you revert, or maybe you already don't have it

[fierce crest]

ive got v1.1.1 w/ companion dmage

do i use yours instead of the patch, or on top of?

[summer prairie]

should be fine to overwrite your current files

[marble crater]

We will all forget how to play when switching to other classes

[deft stump]

Don't even need crusher. The mauls already can do that. Bullying them like an oggy feels great you know.

[summer prairie]

@fierce crest if you get my version, can you test the ogryn blitzes in the psykhanium

[zinc phoenix]

Crusher has better reach and feels nicer to me tbh, plus he boppin hard

[deft stump]

I guess, but yeah, full impact build funni.

[gray juniper]

Don’t need to even dodge them when you’re swing cancelling them your own heavy or the forceful push

The melee is ridiculous

It’s good to see people moving back to the other classes in games again

[zinc phoenix]

I love it, I hope they tune down the ranged some tho

Feels weird that it’s got such crazy melee sustain and then also really strong ranged horde clear and special clear

[fierce crest]

sure

[gray juniper]

Yea the continuity concerns while face to face with heavy enemies is negligible

It’s too fun so deep down I hope they don’t, but when nerfs come I definitely understand why

[ornate hearth]

I know I'm a returning player, but i played my Zealot last night for the first time in forever. Wow is that class a breeze to play compared to Psyker.

What does Psyker need do you guys think to not be so squishy and simply a win more class? Do you all think psyker is in a good place already?

[barren arch]

what's the difference between the two Force Greatswords?

[hearty wolf]

Understanding. Psyker is already absurdly strong. It just punishes poor build crafting

Like the idea that psyker is "squishy"

is some weird narrative pushed by people

[marble crater]

Mk6 is slightly better for elites, Mk8 is slightly better for hordes, both are great at both and it really just depends on which moveset you prefer

[barren arch]

he is squishy if you, y'know, don't do anything lol

[hearty wolf]

Psyker also really suffers on low density

nothing to kill, no toughness to get

[ornate hearth]

"Squishy" meaning very punishing.

[summer prairie]

psyker toughness talents are a joke especially compared to arbi and orgyn

[marble crater]

Nothing to remove your toughness though

[zinc phoenix]

Mk8 has wider sweeps and good movement on the attacks and a push attack poke into heavy combo. mk6 has great access to boss fight/anti elite heavy combo but the horde clear is more awkward

[barren arch]

how does the Mk6 horde clear work? I do wanna get better with it lol

[ornate hearth]

I feel like it's a class that simply wins more. I have a hard time imagining a game where I thought thank God for the Psyker.

Any game that went super smooth with me or someone else as a psyker likely goes just as swimmingly with a different class.

[zinc phoenix]

Light 3 into heavy light iirc

[ornate hearth]

4 ogryn is way safer and reliable than 4 psyker as an example

[hearty wolf]

Ogryn and Arby are powercrept

[summer prairie]

Once they remove node tax, buff psyker based toughness and/or give use a free +25 toughness node similar to the new overhauls, and rework some toughness talents to work better with melee and non-crit based ranged, it's fine

[hearty wolf]

So I don't find it too valid to compare them

[ornate hearth]

It's a bubble shield mule more than anything else. Even though it's my favorite class. And I hardly bring bubble lol.

[gray juniper]

I agree with this because you have to take several for it to be a significant difference

[summer prairie]

and SG needs to have some better DR built-in

[zinc phoenix]

I wish bubble didn’t go down under fire tbh

Like just let it stay up smh

[ornate hearth]

This announced as a thing coming?

[summer prairie]

not specifically but they are overhauling the other classes eventually

[ornate hearth]

Eventually *tm

[summer prairie]

sadly psyker will likely be the last

[analog agate]

At least Psyker isn’t that bad

[fierce crest]

@summer prairie box connect

[summer prairie]

what did it kill, was it supposed to do more

[fierce crest]

after grenades explode

[summer prairie]

aw

so that was just the impact into blitz

[fierce crest]

the box is blitz but the grenades that pop out arent

[summer prairie]

yes

[fierce crest]

• a rock

• a frag

[summer prairie]

so explosions go to ranged, impacts to ranged

[fierce crest]

seems like

impact from frag counts as blitz

so yes

[summer prairie]

arbi grenade explosion goes to blitz at least

[fierce crest]

vet?

[summer prairie]

fixing them now

[fierce crest]

retest?

or is that just for vet

[summer prairie]

if you want

It might be for all

[fierce crest]

frag bomb with impact

• box with impact

so box works right now

but frag still doesnt

[summer prairie]

I added two frag grenade templates to blitz, weird

oh ogryn frag bomb

[rotund junco]

Bro how do i stop infernus staff from blinding me every time i use it

is there like a mod or something that makes it less bright?

[summer prairie]

I use Custom Flames

there's also I wanna see but that removes the fire completely

[rotund junco]

i tried that but didnt really do what i wanted it too

[tepid python]

i use this
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/371

[fierce crest]

shredder

[summer prairie]

looks fine

[rotund junco]

This gets rid of it completely no?

[fierce crest]

+krak

[summer prairie]

did you change Blue Charged Flame style?

[fierce crest]

vet seems good

[brazen compass]

Vet is viable, but the problem is the class requires effort that people don't like to invest

[summer prairie]

mine looks like this https://streamable.com/6kxduf

[tepid python]

lets me see

[fierce crest]

talking about his grenades registering as blitz damage for the scoreboard mod addon

[rotund junco]

yeah this isn't what i want, i just want it to be less bright in general

but thanks anyway

[brazen compass]

I see

[deft stump]

Vet requires crazy lvls of minmaxxing just to do what other classes can do baseline at times.

[fierce crest]

^

[deft stump]

Oh. That.

[fierce crest]

great news

[hearty wolf]

LMAO

[fierce crest]

now the impact is ranged damage

[summer prairie]

which impact

[fierce crest]

frag bomb

[fierce crest]

was this

[summer prairie]

These templates are all in different files, so annoying

[fierce crest]

• box with explosions, all went to blitz

[fierce crest]

https://tenor.com/view/once-breach-fight-gif-18135810

a box a bomb and a rock

all blitz

[summer prairie]

good

thanks

[plucky flax]

Based.

[fierce crest]

ok back to knocking out weeklies before the reset

[summer prairie]

It doesn't track weakspot and crit% rates for blitz, couldn't be bothered

[plucky flax]

But I only headshot with rocks.

[summer prairie]

maybe I shouldn't have taken this guy

[deft stump]

Syllo? Don't 'nades add to the damage of whatever weapon type you have out?

[summer prairie]

buffed by your weapon maybe, not sure what you mean

[deft stump]

If not by itself?

As in, is why 'nades count towards melee kills when you throw it with your melee out?

Or ranged if otherwise?

[summer prairie]

no

[hearty wolf]

ll

lol

[deft stump]

Mostly pondering.

[deft stump]

Throw a 'nade with melee out on WS. It counts towards melee kills.

Throw it with ranged out and it dings ranged.

[summer prairie]

on your scoreboard?

[deft stump]

No. Just in general.

[summer prairie]

I don't know what dinging means

[deft stump]

Why I'm asking if scoreboard does it the same way.

[deft stump]

As in, gives you a stack or buff.

[hearty wolf]

@summer prairie on another note, volataic manibles pog, razor jaw bad?

[deft stump]

Yes. Razor mostly sucks because bad hit area.

Serrated depends on need.

If you want perma brittle like oggy push node basically.

But is like, it needs to knock off a target for it to work by description for razor jaw.

[summer prairie]

razor jaw probably bad, definitely wouldn't path towards it

[deft stump]

And it doesn't hit the target of the pounce so...

GL hitting things barring pinging something already in a massive horde.

[summer prairie]

but can't track razor jaw damage to be sure

[gray juniper]

This seems like training wheels for an already easily manageable class

Like you should know it’s a perfect block before the hit even lands

[fierce crest]

thats not what training wheels do

also pulsing your weapon on success

very cool

we sekiro now

https://tenor.com/view/sekiro-parry-get-parried-clang-clang-deflect-gif-15299406514620790298

[ocean grotto]

hello witches whats a fun build to try out

[fierce crest]

axe, revolver, assail, bubble, siphon

[ocean grotto]

that sounds like carpal tunnel o clock

[fierce crest]

its actually quite soothing

light melee until theres something ranged to delete, revolve it, if theres a lot of ranged, bubble and assail

[hearty wolf]

I am the antagonist

(I held w, pulled the entire map, dealt with a boss and armoured packs. Team is dead to 1 trapper and 1 hound :( )

[fierce crest]

cant die to a hound without 4 ppl making mistakes

[hearty wolf]

3 people

I was in Africa waiting for them to respawn at the next checkpoint xd

[fierce crest]

it takes negative attention to knock a hound

yeah

4 player's mistakes

[hearty wolf]

N'awh

The only factor of success is if the mission succeeded

and it did 🙏

[fierce crest]

true if you make even one mistake the mission ends

so a successful mission means no mistakes made

[gray juniper]

It’s a metaphor

[fierce crest]

:(

thats not what a metaphor is

[hearty wolf]

Are you on havoc 80 or something exdee?

[reef oasis]

I swear my Psyker can't get Combat Shotguns in the rotating store. Must have been over a 100 times I checked and never a single one.

I don't need one, I'm not gonna burn all my dockets fishing for one at Brunt's. But I like to have one of each weapon to craft up that could be potentially perfect if I one day needed it.

[stone totem]

Are assail shards affected by Warp Splitting?

[glacial vapor]

Yes

It's why psykers don't take the assail node for the extra pierce

Typically anyway

[stone totem]

I was actually just about to say that was what I was asking that for xd

[gray juniper]

I’ve never seen a combat blade or combat shotgun as a game reward either

[glacial vapor]

I might have annoyed Karien and I don't know why

[proper osprey]

Yarp, assail doesn’t need nodes but they are nice tho

[analog agate]

After having done all the variations of arby on aurics. Psyker much better than arby. Dog builds (with the exception of boss dps) not as good as lone wolf

[summer prairie]

dog build not as good in terms of dps?

[analog agate]

They are probably about the same on that. Maybe lone wolf does slightly more. In terms of playing them, though the dog is so janky if you are already used to juggling elites/specials

And it just doesn't do as well for me in those terms

[summer prairie]

I haven't done many lone wolf h40s, but the companion damage has always been so high that it's hard to see lone wolf competing, maybe with very good grenade spam

and the instant elite stagger is ridiculous

[analog agate]

So, H40 may be another story. I havent been doing havocs. This is only aurics/mael

[glacial vapor]

I think you're best to just let the dog do its thing. It will slaughter maulers and ragers for you

Maybe send it after a trapper or bomber you cant deal with

[analog agate]

The electric blast may be comparable to the grenade spam of lone wolf in havocs

[summer prairie]

it's good damage but quite hard to use

[analog agate]

IMO, it is cause the dog is janky af. He will pounce (maybe) and then randomly fuck off to somewhere else even though the thing he pounced on didnt die. Or he will almost go where you want. So, in my experience, in order to use the electric blast well. You have to pay attention to him constantly

Just not my playstyle is what
I have found

[gray juniper]

Close to no damage runs on auric with the dog set on ranged

[hearty wolf]

I don't like having to manage the dog to let them kill things.

If I tag something, I'm about to pull out a shotgun and blow off its head.

If I let it sit, then someone is gonna steal my kill while doggo munching

That being said, I feel like it's the class identity so I keep it anyway

[gray juniper]

Yea I prefer the dog on auto pilot tbh. It’s good to have it around when you want the boss and the crowd around it gone fast

[hearty wolf]

I'm almost 30 so "havoc ready" if you want to run it down at some point

[summer prairie]

Agent's dog did nearly 500k damage in a recent long run, we had 2 chorus zealots though

[gray juniper]

That’s pretty big

[hearty wolf]

Context matters though, of course.

[gray juniper]

Is he using multiple dog perks?

[summer prairie]

voltaic mandibles, ranged dog keystone, the charge dog talent and Execution Order

[gray juniper]

Nice I have the same dog stones

[hearty wolf]

I wonder if the dog has some kind of prio to EO targets?

[summer prairie]

don't think so, but everything is an EO target

all the elites/specials very quickly get highlighted

[hearty wolf]

Ah, I maybe I'll give it a proper go then

[analog agate]

I can see EO being good in Havoc.

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch am 28 btw

[strong gulch]

So it's seeming like in high density the dog does better, but if we are fighting for elite and special kills then the dog has less to do.

[strong gulch]

1 auric away

[hearty wolf]

You need to keep me out of normal matchmaking

[analog agate]

I won't be on the rest of today. But I will be on this week

[hearty wolf]

I'm a menace and I can't control it

[strong gulch]

[marble crater]

Toxic speedrunner, smh my head

[hearty wolf]

They're just slow 😭

Imagine the class had Shroudfield

it would be SO over

[summer prairie]

tacaxe

[marble crater]

Giving Arbites to someone who was already holding down W is a mistake

[deft stump]

I guess you and Beans and uhhh... someone needs to "babysit" this madman before more extreme toxicity happens.

[fierce crest]

the dog prioritizes the psykers disrupt destiny target

mid killing blow it will tackle it to the ground so the swing misses

[marble crater]

It's impossible, Sin can't be contained

[fierce crest]

and then kill it before the psyker can swing again

[summer prairie]

who wants to do lone wolf voltaic mine speedrun?

[fierce crest]

its just good business

[analog agate]

Just got off otherwise I’d do it

Serrated jaw seems not noticeable to bad

[plucky flax]

Dogless not too good into purple

No aoe damage

[summer prairie]

tac axe mobility arbi is hilarious

[strong gulch]

https://youtu.be/KTG11jWxUbs

[analog agate]

Tac axe on arby is a ton of fun

[plucky flax]

I tried it in havoc. Good horde clear but single target is pretty bad

[summer prairie]

a bit better if you take the rending nodes but yes

[deft stump]

Beans, you need to leash the beast.

[summer prairie]

but in auric you can just run past everything

[deft stump]

Where God ball?

[plucky flax]

Arby is cheat in auric

[strong gulch]

I don't know how 😭

I do have better barreling powers now.

Maybe that will work.

Got em

[deft stump]

Is why I'm confused how ppl go down or die normally in auric... Knockback deaths or barrels if another thing.

[plucky flax]

What's your burga havoc build syllo is it same tree or you dont take wildfire?

[deft stump]

I played 400 ping and the only thing that scares me is trappers. And pogryns since very hard to dodge the knockbacks.

[summer prairie]

i take wildfire now, my damage was feeling low otherwise

i took the bb speed node for a while to make runs smoother

[deft stump]

I see, barrel Sin so he can't run off... Smart idea.

[plucky flax]

Wildfire enable more kf

[marble crater]

Good job

[plucky flax]

I miss playing psyker. The class is still goated

[summer prairie]

I was even having fun with with purg

[gray juniper]

Sibling what’s this do you speak of?

[patent steeple]

any tips on when to take warp rider over warp battery? I find myself constantly going boom on inferno and blaze VB builds, because I use bubble (I can't shriek to save myself) while trying to keep up the max damage bonus from warp rider (I go too far, fail at peril edging, and thus go boom...)

[plucky flax]

You should play it safe then and quell at 80%

You lose warp nexus 4 stacks but rather that than die

[strong gulch]

IDK if you mod, but PerilGauge helps me. It let's you see what your peril actually is vs rounding possibly causing a boom.

The obvious don't edge as hard.

Take ER

make it a habit to quell a tick after a cast.

[hearty wolf]

I should have got my PoV. When I died, I had SO much more on me. IIrc the reason i died was because I blocked a PO charge which guard broke me and then another PO hit me into a DH

I couldn't outrun it all

[strong gulch]

Also not taking inner tanq for consistency. (if you take it)

[gray juniper]

From the looks of it in pubs you have new players, just hit 30, no good weapon, no decent curio, possibly bad tree on top

[deft stump]

My curios are a mess. 1 stam, 1 hp and one 13% toughness.

_>

No excuse.

[strong gulch]

not the 13 toughness

[hearty wolf]

It's the same as any Warhammer horde game

Either you get the game, or you don't

[gray juniper]

I’m using the free gummies but these folks seem to have trash or none

[hearty wolf]

And there'a a really painful learning curve until you click

[deft stump]

I mean, I use what I got off brunt... And freebies. XD

[deft stump]

No good weapon? I was forced to clutch games with effing 200 power greens.

[gray juniper]

I hate those guys the most now. Ngl I don’t know the best way to handle them. Blocked in on psyker too is guaranteed death

[gray juniper]

Miss, they ain’t you.

[deft stump]

Trappers scare everyone though.

[analog agate]

Executive order. Bottom left keystone on arby

[gray juniper]

But yea if you can’t clutch or lead on arby you’re not gonna make it on another class

[gray juniper]

Talking about pogryn

[deft stump]

Oh, yeah. Or you get flung off the map cos can't dodge knockback due to weird timings.

[deft stump]

Well, maybe oggy.

[gray juniper]

Oh yea. It seems like a good strategy that someone carries it with the boss stone in havoc

[gray juniper]

Nah hun. I mean they def are in another skill bracket. This guy died 3 times before the mid event in maelstrom

As arby? Doesn’t bode well

[deft stump]

Oh. As said, I can understand being flung off or a trapper was the cause...

[gray juniper]

Crusher pack it was

[deft stump]

But I don't think that was what happened.

[gray juniper]

He definitely did something wrong because one moment everything fine the next he’s zapped to zero

[deft stump]

Do they not know of true grit and how to counter bully up to auric crushers?

[gray juniper]

It has to be the latter

You don’t need true grit at all really

[deft stump]

Well, they clearly do.

It lets them eat 3-4 overheads depending on curios.

[gray juniper]

lol fair

I’m gonna switch over and level Mistress Steeltoe in a while

[marble crater]

Or people could just... dodge

[deft stump]

Do they look like they can? I also assume they aren't playing on some insane ping.

[marble crater]

Ping issue

[deft stump]

Because the last time someone asked me to play and I said APAC Central, they raged quit from lag after 15 mins.

[ripe obsidian]

I should use Relic or maybe the buffed Evis if I play Zealot again on this grind. My damage with the DSIV is so low. Or I just need to be better at target prioritization

[frail escarp]

guys is the mod that allows you to press R once to keep quelling good to use or i should just stick to holding the button?

[summer prairie]

Agent would know better, relic I imagine

[strong gulch]

I can't

It's only soup.

[deft stump]

Soup? Is blight back?

[ripe obsidian]

I have done H40 with FotF+Relic Zealot and gotten high damage.

Tbh I play Arby as if it's FotF Zealot with a dog

[strong gulch]

That sounds kinda bad in terms of game play. I haven't used it or seen it in action, but having control of when you quell and when you STOP quelling is important.

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/soup-store-gif-18760613

[frail escarp]

yeah, i imagined it would have drawbacks, i guess ill just try to learn to quell without it, it came handy when i wanted to push other buttons to quell while dodging back 😄

ty

[strong gulch]

If you haven't already, make your jump and dodge buttons seperate buttons.

[marble crater]

The biggest sin of the devs, no joke

[uncut zealot]

Well there's always controller

[marble crater]

Second biggest sin is not having alt 1 control scheme be the default

[deft stump]

Like srsly. I half broke my bumper on this game.

Waiting for an upgrade since no more of the one I use rn.

[marble crater]

Gamesir pro upgrade

[gray juniper]

High peril really helps that damage number tho

[deft stump]

Maybe?

[marble crater]

It's the only upgrade I would need, too bad my controller still works without problems

[gray juniper]

I talked to Cole about the game testing

Unfortunately as I assumed controller experience is more after thought than primary consideration

[marble crater]

That much is obvious

[deft stump]

It's obvious, VT2 controls was shit, didn't change in this.

[gray juniper]

A sizeable portion of console available games, I’d dare to say the majority, have this problem. It’s not excusable imo

[frail escarp]

oh those i have set up correctly but ty 🙂

i remember when i first played and i kept jumping at the worst possible times 😄

[north hatch]

Did all the melee buffs and dueling sword nerf come yet or is that still wip

Also damn idk how to feel about the new mission terminal

I don't hate it but the change seems unnecessary?

[strong gulch]

Some buffs to some weapons like taxe and shotguns are live.

DS was not nerfed.

DS5 L3 was actually buffed.

[north hatch]

I remember reading a thing about devil claws, eviscerated, mauls, and like a ton of other things getting buffed iirc so I guess that's not out yet?

[deft stump]

The buffs are out.

The nerfs, not yet.

[north hatch]

Oh ok

Ty

[ripe obsidian]

I need to try the buffed Evis XV. It's my favorite Zealot weapon

[north hatch]

Do the buffs change the weapons perks and blessings much or are they just better at what they were already good at

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/here-it-comes-tornado-meme-gif-23054073

[nocturne dust]

The latter

Well, for Dclaw

The former for Evis, no more target cap 👏

[marble crater]

I should meme with perfect strike evis

[patent steeple]

I myself use Shred and Rampage on my psyker's Dclaw instead of Rampage and Savage Sweep, because I like having bonus crits while slashing at hordes with Dclaw...

[hearty wolf]

Omg they did that?

Vrmm vrmm

[unkempt narwhal]

got a friend who's feeling kinda down on psyker, just got to level 30 and feeling like they're falling behind everyone else? any idea for talent trees for each of the powers i can suggest to them?

[marble crater]

Pins have a build for every staff

[unkempt narwhal]

[marble crater]

Feeling like falling behind is definitely either a build or skill issue, because psyker is easily one of the strongest classes when played well, but also very easily punished when played badly

[nocturne dust]

Maybe their issue is speed

which is fair, cuz psyker is pretty slow outside of combat

[pine oyster]

I just need to learn how to conserve stamina properly. Then I'll be good.

[strong gulch]

Leveling psyker is a pain. The class isn't really solid until you're basically maxxed.

[nocturne dust]

You don't need to really conserve stam on psyker

Just sprint-slide everywhere, tiny stam regen delay will do the rest, lol

[pine oyster]

O

[pine oyster]

Or if you can make Smite work like i can.

It's damn good if you use it correctly.

[strong gulch]

meh

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, psyker has such a short regen delay, you can regen stamina by sliding. Not a huge amount even if you do it right so it's not going to fill you back up, but sprinting no longer eating stamina is beeeeeeeg

[stone totem]

But smite so boooring

[nocturne dust]

Or just use assail

[pine oyster]

Cheers.

[wraith sphinx]

hello, anyone up for a couple auric maelstroms?

[pine oyster]

That too.

[nocturne dust]

Dang, I'm indisposed for 4+ hours still

[wraith sphinx]

And I'll go to bed around that time

I appreciate the offer though 🙂

[plucky flax]

I lost all my energy.

Game too hard.

I suck.

I got cliffed by plague ogryn and died.

Extremely sad.

Then we lost soon after.

I can't carry on arby dogless as much as with dog for whatever reason.

[wraith sphinx]

it's ok my friend hopped on just now

[plucky flax]

Gonna grind arby penances to finish it and retire the class.

[wraith sphinx]

I will prob still play it dogless once in a while

[plucky flax]

You bought it?

[wheat monolith]

whats the bests staffs these days

[deft stump]

There there... It happens... Pogryn knockback sucks.

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

[wheat monolith]

?

[jovial juniper]

All of them

[wheat monolith]

😦

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[marble crater]

False, voidstrike exists

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

[wheat monolith]

voirstrike good again? whats the buffs i should put on it its been awhile

[marble crater]

Blessings: Trash and Can, because that's where it belongs

[wheat monolith]

😦

[marble crater]

There is a build for it in the pins though

[wraith sphinx]

yes! Maxed it out already too

Not really a fan of dog gameplay however, I just keep forgetting about him

[marble crater]

Rude

[plucky flax]

I dodged and still got clipped. The dodge range on the shock maul is kinda smol.

[hearty wolf]

That was tragic

[deft stump]

Patpats. There there, I understand the feel... Even if in my case it's just ping ontop of slow weapon dodges.

[wraith sphinx]

yeah I noticed that too

[marble crater]

Deserved to be honest

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

Dogless behavior needs to be punished

[plucky flax]

5 stages of grief.

[strong gulch]

it is smol

[marble crater]

6th stage of grief(ing) is playing without dog

[plucky flax]

I think it's - dodge range actually.

(minus)

[hearty wolf]

mobility is not the dump stat

dump damage!

[deft stump]

I think most weapons on arby is "slow".

[wraith sphinx]

yeah arbys are slowpokes

very tanky though

I enjoy the default arby weapons

that talent that regens toughness when spending stamina is also hilariously strong

[gray juniper]

I get cornered by them and turned into psyker soup

[jovial juniper]

Arby's have poor dodges yeah

[deft stump]

I die from lag knockback.

[jovial juniper]

Mix of same dodge range as psyker + bad dodges weapon

[hearty wolf]

hey that's my set up too

[wraith sphinx]

arbites has a dodge enhancing talent same as psyker too

[wraith sphinx]

what curios are you running?

[deft stump]

Even with it.

_>

[wraith sphinx]

I run one +3 stam one health and one toughness curio

[hearty wolf]

1 of each but if I was to pick.

3 stamina or 2t, 1 s

I'll probably use 3s

[wraith sphinx]

stamina regen cdr and gunner damage res on all three

[deft stump]

Need moar toughness.

And then never die.

[wraith sphinx]

I have 1 less toughness than my psyker

I'm balling

174 on arby 175 on psyker

[deft stump]

I'm sad Arby has more toughness than Vet...

[wheat monolith]

how do i raise the stats on a staff to 80%?

[blissful solar]

empower via shrine of omnissiah

[patent steeple]

do heavy swords have anything useful compared to dclaws on psyker?

[wheat monolith]

oh nvm mastery

sry

best sword and yours guys opinion?

[verbal thistle]

sword?

there is a bunch

which one?

[wheat monolith]

my bad duelling

[verbal thistle]

we have heavy, devils, force, force great

ah

[wheat monolith]

which mark ive been using the 5

[verbal thistle]

you can never go wrong with DS

any mark works and any level

since its broken strong

mk4 is the most brain dead one

you just use heavy

mk5 is funny

slash

[hearty wolf]

I'd run toughness, health and stam regen although the stamina regen is nuts already lmao

[ripe obsidian]

Stam regen on arby is fantastic. More stamina = more toughness regen

Also I just use too much stamina on push attacks

[wheat monolith]

best way to use the void strike staff im not understanding

[ripe obsidian]

Charge attack and shoot people in the head

[analog agate]

Always full charge it. Long sections are the best use. So line up your shots

Aim for heads

[strong gulch]

Ye.

Head shots. You don't always have to full charge. Test in the meat grinder to get e feel for when you need full, partials, or finish with LMB / primary.

Also know that you don't have to quell to 0 peril to keep casting. You can cast, quell a little bit, and cast again. Edge your perils.

[wraith sphinx]

With stam and stam regen its entirely viable to spam push attacks for a while

Which I like because it reminds me of PA cheese on knife psyker

[strong gulch]

Also ye, hallways and choke points are VS's friend.

[hearty wolf]

I'm so close to 30

@strong gulch havoc?

[strong gulch]

baby havocs right?

[hearty wolf]

whatever I have ye

I need 1 mission to hit 30

[strong gulch]

Ye can ye. Can fire up and auric too

want to see about putting a havoc build on duck weed

oh nevermind weeklies done

[hearty wolf]

ok

get me in autic

I inted this current run so I leave mwahaha

I keep running out of E-dodges for some reason

I think it's because I'm burning so much stamina on pushes and stuff I feel like stamina= dodges= infinite

[strong gulch]

[hearty wolf]

I have gained this node

so we should be cooking

[uncut coral]

me whenever i psyker.

hey guys, question for ya. What would you all say is the main damage dealers in higher difficulties? I see that zealot has a lot of support builds do all the builds do that? or is one of the classes more focused on dealing damage

[analog agate]

Psyker is main dmg dealer. And ogryn

All classes can deal dmg though. Just those 2 are better at it

[uncut coral]

i see. does psyker use greatsword more? or staves

[plucky flax]

Depend on your build.

[ripe obsidian]

Sword if you want to be melee, staff if you want to cast spells

[hearty wolf]

xd?

@strong gulch

Not even level 30 or have real curios?

[strong gulch]

30

and a clutch

[hearty wolf]

last skill point

hmm

gonna gamble curios rq

[strong gulch]

brb gonna start laundry

started

[hearty wolf]

Got some passable ones

max rolled so gaming should occur

just adding the perks

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042857671088427058

@strong gulch

Anyone for Havoc?

[loud girder]

any cookie cutter easy to pick up build i can look at while trying out psyker again? was playing some zealot until now but want to see how psyker is atm

[gray juniper]

Shoot. I’m afraid to ‘perfect block’ a lot of time because of latency isn’t good that means I’m down lol

[ripe obsidian]

Potentially? What rank?

[spice oar]

Gonna try out the new hip and cool “electric priming” smite technique oh boy oh boy

[gray juniper]

I got reeeally lucky with no lag on havoc just now. Thank the emperor for that shield

[analog agate]

We have pinned builds

[loud girder]

alright, as long as its updated

[gray juniper]

Oh my sweet summer sibling

[loud girder]

i just need a havoc viable build because i need to practice that

preferably something tanky

[analog agate]

Havoc build that is “easy” is the pinned inferno build on left with bubble shield instead of shriek

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker is not really the best class to play if you want tanky

Psyker is big damage, but punishing on mistakes

But for best survivability is probably trauma + bubble

[loud girder]

whats the dump for inferno?

cloud?

[analog agate]

Warp res

[ripe obsidian]

Warp resist for all staves except void strike

[analog agate]

Cloud is really important

[ripe obsidian]

Void strike is blast radius

[hearty wolf]

What's the highest you got?

Mine is 21 from all the decay lmaoo

[upper sun]

first game since friday
someone leaves
multiple deaths
mid spawns aside from 40 rages once
game crashes

ok

[hearty wolf]

come Clad

I won't leave

:)

[upper sun]

no mr havoc

[hearty wolf]

it's baby havoc

look

I'm 2 people

you can watch a podcast or something

[gray juniper]

I kind of want to make an attempt at auric storm survivor as psyker but I don’t want to be carried at the same time. I’ll probably make an attempt at this in a few hours

[hearty wolf]

good luck!

[analog agate]

I may be on in a few hours if you want me to play a couple with you

[loud girder]

and whats the dump for dueling sword?..

(im assuming mobility but want to make sure)

[gray juniper]

Ty sir

[hearty wolf]

cleave

[gray juniper]

Yea just shoot me a message when convenient

[hearty wolf]

/defences

[ripe obsidian]

29 atm. I am losing a lot.

[loud girder]

CLEAVE?? why?

cleave is damage

[gray juniper]

Guys I’m considering alternative weapons for gaze or bubble knight build. Thoughts and suggestions. Combat blade/bolt pistol?
Mk6 gs/shredder?

Or combat blade & recon lasgun?

[zinc comet]

DS dump is mark dependent

[loud girder]

okay, so i need one of which?

2 dumps, which are?

one cleave one mobility?

[zinc comet]

Cleave for mks 4 and 2

Mob for the other one

[loud girder]

i still dont understand why mobility is important

youre not sprinting with i unsheathed are you?

i mean.. guess if you already hit the breakpoints mob is better

[analog agate]

Cleave adds negligible dmg to sword. You sprint and sprint slide with sword

[loud girder]

so why not always go mobility?

why do the other 2 mk's use cleave?

if its negligeable

[analog agate]

The other two marks have different move sets that you can use for hordes stuff. The 4 is not used for hordes

[loud girder]

aight

what blessings do i slap on this?

[nocturne dust]

cleave is more negligible

[analog agate]

Ds iv uses uncanny and riposte. Riposte can be replaced by things like thrust or precog depending on your playstyle

[nocturne dust]

Doesn't matter much, but cleave does even less than mobility on mk 4 and 2

Iirc, dumping cleave makes you deal 5 less damage

lol

Doesn't change how many attacks you make to kill in almost every situation, so very worthless

[jovial juniper]

Mobility

[jovial juniper]

60 to unarmored

On the Mk4 that is

[hearty wolf]

are you still around

[strong gulch]

It's like 6 damage across 3 enemies IF you even hit that many. It's bugged on flak (doesn't work). Dump molbility if you want to tho.

The meta dump is cleave damage / defenses.

cleave damage and defenses also take up the same stat slot between the mks.

[wild slate]

Is electrostaff good for scriers gaze? Getting bored of lasgun

[hearty saffron]

what builds do you guys use for force greatsword?

[marble crater]

It's one of the better staves for gaze, but you will still be using a staff with gaze. There are better builds for staves

[wild slate]

Yeah guess I should just move away from gaze

I like the active playstyle tho

[marble crater]

Gunker/meleeker, if you don't mind the low mobility then you can use the greatsword on any build, because it's a good generalist weapon

[wild slate]

Hate bubble psyker

[marble crater]

Shriek is right there

[strong gulch]

bubble shriek when

[wild slate]

Tru

[hearty wolf]

God.

They cooked so much with this class

I want to take it into 40

[strong gulch]

press w class

[hearty wolf]

I don't even think I need to practice at all

[strong gulch]

it was made for you sin

[hearty wolf]

It really is

[hearty saffron]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

is meleeker updated in this ? im asking for a buddy before i share the info

[hearty wolf]

It's what I wanted from Zealot

Maybe using T-hammer on Zealot was a mistake

[marble crater]

No idea

[hearty wolf]

Maybe I should go back to relic blade idk

The maul is fucking ridiculous though

I'd like to see a chart of the weapon strings though :/

I think I know them but I want to visually see it

[marble crater]

Here is a build #psyker-class message

[hearty saffron]

got it. this is written as gun psyker, tho. my bud wants to do melee. this okay for it, too? i dont play psyker.

[marble crater]

Gun psyker is melee psyker is gun psyker

[hearty wolf]

yes

[elder gust]

is there an up to date guide or google doc on psyker?

[loud girder]

im kinda working things out with the pinned guides for now 😐

[strong gulch]

Not really. Many WIPs.

Kuli is the most consistently up to date, but it's more "how things work" vs "how to use them".

[ripe obsidian]

Sorry, I got pulled away. If you are still playing, I can probably join in a few minutes?

[jovial juniper]

Yes

But the play style is insane

Only insane people play that

And as you can see

I'm insane

[orchid shadow]

Is there a way to not get story missions when queueing up for Aurics? Kinda annoying to get those since they seem to be toned down enemy-wise

[jovial juniper]

[hearty wolf]

We just finished! Sos, but I would be happy to do it tomorrow or some time

[ripe obsidian]

No worries. We can try again another day. What's your timezone?

[elder gust]

ahh i see. well in that case is there a recommended build for fresh 30?

[wild slate]

I mean it can't be that bad

[hearty wolf]

GMT but Darktide always ends up making me play at 5am...

[ripe obsidian]

Ah, my curse of being an NA player.

[hearty wolf]

There is. I reckon Potato is gonna cover it but if not, do you have a play style you want to engage in?

[hearty wolf]

I play with @nocturne dust all the time and he is NA

Although

He's been ABSENT

During my whole Arbites grind

[nocturne dust]

You're the one that's been absent for months

[hearty wolf]

I'M SORRY

I'm back

I am the dog class

I am the storm

[nocturne dust]

You said that before

[hearty wolf]

I can finally rush 6 rooms ahead and not die

😭

[nocturne dust]

It's called Until Death

[hearty wolf]

I will

[strong gulch]

Melee is the least "forgiving" of the ways to play psyker.

This the core of your standard gunker / melee build with some points to spare. Things can be shifted to be a little more defensive, but know that it is little.

Recs are PC, quick shards, and BCob or TTS (depends on what you use more). If FGS is taken, warp speed and anticipation are nice but not needed.

Abbreviations in pins. Staff builds also in pins.

[hearty wolf]

not use that heretical thing

[hearty wolf]

Seriously though, Arbites plays perfectly like how I want it so I'm down for Darktide every day at this point

Nightrein can take a back burner

[strong gulch]

nightmare map simulator

[hearty wolf]

I'm backkkkkkk

[vestal trench]

haven't fully upgraded my EK staff - does it scale well even into auric in dealing with carapace? planning on pairing that build with tac axe since fgs is a bit sluggish for my tastes mobility-wise

[prime saddle]

What weapon should i pair with a greatsword for a melee build?

[nocturne dust]

Scales well into auric, yea

Havoc not so much, VB and Inferno are the kings there

[nocturne dust]

It's still alright tho

[vestal trench]

thanks, not really too interested in doing havoc anytime soon at least, and my inferno build's fully upgraded excluding curios (thanks melk)

[strong gulch]

vraks 5, recon of your choice (faster shoot has better crit uptime for talents), laspistol, agripina revolver

There's a pin in Vet chat on how to build them. idk if the vet's is the same for psyker tho.

[prime saddle]

Ah ok, ty

[deft stump]

I only randomly perfect block so gamble all the time. XD

[elder gust]

awesome thank you! are there any recommended melee weaps and guns for this build? 🙏

or any advice on whats good in general rn?

[hearty wolf]

Blaze Force Greatsword is the usual suspect for melee. Either mark is fine, just try each one and see what you like more.

Guns is vraks 5 or a recon lasgun of your choice

[strong gulch]

What sin said.

I'd add obscurus, deimos, knife, DS as melee options. FGS has my top pick.

Additional guns are laspistol and fan revolver (agripina). Bistol is also good. Vraks 5, recon, and laspistol as top picks.

[elder gust]

Thank you!

What is assail good for in this build? when should I be using it over the gun? sorry for the onslaught of questions lol

[gray juniper]

Any excuse to use the shock maker. Damnit take my money

[hearty wolf]

Proccing buffs like malefic momentum.

Also sometimes it's just fun throwing all 10 and seeing things die.

Right click assails are also your go-to for long range special killing if your secondary isn't capable of it.

[ripe obsidian]

Did they change poxbursters?

It feels like they jump from way farther away

I keep missing my push and blowing myself up

[gray juniper]

You’ll notice on the right side of the talent tree there’s specific choice that gives you benefits of using melee and warp attacks in close succession. Near the start of your gaze use you’ll want to throw out just enough to make a kill which starts the effect. It’s more likely you’ll want to do this if you used the by crack of bone talent so the peril stays low

[gray juniper]

They have felt different to block. I’ve been getting popped on a lot more than used to. You have to really commit to the shove and dodge back hard

[strong gulch]

Assail is also good for helping with hordes. You melee a bit and toss an assail or two out.

It's good for scattered shooters.

On specials and smaller elites, you can do 2 - 3 regular assails then an aimed to kill them.

Assail is good at interrupting. So you can use them to stop ragers, toss them while sliding to shooters to help close the gap or just to get them to stop so you can begin shooting them.

You can just dump them into a group of shotgunners.

etc

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I keep pushing too early and missing them, only to watch in horror as they blow me up

I took ~220 damage in the H40 game I just played. At least 180 of that was bursters. I think I took 4 of them

[gentle hamlet]

Real talk is souldrinker valid for gun psyker? With wildfire it seems like it’d be solid

[gray juniper]

I don’t feel so bad having trouble with these guys now

[gray juniper]

Go into the meat grinder practice area and test out combustion on the enemy groups. You’ll see how fast the soul blaze kills them. Make your decision based off that

Keep in mind that in game the other players are likely going to be killing the enemy affected by your soul blaze, so you’re likely getting half or a third of those