#psyker-class
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Forced gun play. Anti magic prejudices. Wizard hate movement. Magic stick holder hate
Oh no that's more than fine. It's just my actual movement speed
It's so bad xd
lmao ye it's not fast
There is a lack of specialist density and since my shotgun doesn't 1 shot, I can't keep up any kind of buffs
at least it's not baby vet
that shit sucks
Even on zealot I'm taking speed nodes now cos movement speed is king
fuck baby vet
Oh yeah
the stam regen on Arbites
seems pretty damn good, no?
I don't think it's as fast as Psyker but it's probably Zealot (or better)
@summer prairie
hii, provide info? :)
for gunker i'd only take heavy las pistol if i value the mobility and force push utility right? otherwise go for recon las instead?
edit: nevermind answered my own question, i thought laspistol didn't have access to both dumdum and infernus for some reason 💀
0.5s stam delay regen, 1 stam regen rate. Same as psyker
but with better base stam at 3
It's BETTER?
THANK YOU
Yoooooooooooo
ya
Arby shield dog fail this is very sad.
arbites goated for stam
what if we used 100% of our brain
Is why I said they are literally OP.
You can psyker slide for free.
Vets need 2 bloody nodes for it.
Put it down
366k damage on dawg? Xd
it means arbites abuses the shit out of taxe just like psyker
and the MK4 is pretty strong rn
castigators -> forceful with mk4 taxe is braindead on h40
the one you like the most
4 looks like the worst one
then it is
you know in your heart which one is best
Shit, do I actually have to play the game to figure out which is best?
Dog is not at fault here
tragic
Dawg is a big stooped but he tries.
I hate how I send him far away then he just comes back.
Without sticking around that area to kill more elite/special.
That's why I use the ranged dog node
It increases the targeting range from 16m radius to like 40m
Does it behave better? I'm using the elite dawg keystone.
I think it behaves better
Nope
This guide explains all of Arbitrator's talents and related mechanics. Talents of the other classes are detailed elsewhere:
Ogryn's talents
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sick
so they claim
i thought i was going insane cuz i ctrl+f burster and couldnt find the patch note
sus until proven in the game
I swear not everything is readable as text in steam program wise. My screen reader can only read like half the text.
If you need a body, I can play.
H40?
Sure i have orange and purple the healing is too much
If you play burga would be nice
I can't at the moment. D:
Or trauma whichever.
will do
ok
well this one is just a straight up misspelling, but the text background on both the forums and steam has some transparency so that might confuse a screen reader
Are you EU? If so, can I join?
I am EU.
are we doing an h40 run
in my name
I mean other guy.
I think I have found my new favourite normal-sized force sword version, that being obscurus!
its the perfect middle ground between the horde clear of illisi, and the single target of deimos, making obscurus perfect for almost any non-EK staff build (on EK builds I use mk1 dclaw with Rampage and Shred, and on gunker I use FGS)
I'm losing my mind.
Enjoy 40 lvls of easy modes.
10 wins to fill the bar.
surely it's 5
Pray you don't get bugged and stuck on damnation.
Not 5.
10 wins
10 heresy and 10 damnation.
i feel like i got out of damnation in less than 10
Train feels fast, maybe.
Told you
I thought it was a bad joke
I have his IP now
@plucky flax how much longer do you think you will be playing?
I'm stopping now it's near midnight.
I did 366k dawg damage one game earlier.
We'll do better at some point.
Good night
I love my ping

gn
Damn
Didn't expect rending trauma to be this useless
Perhaps I'm gonna leave this build for aurics
I swear the stagger is different this patch
Dang
I dunno if they made havoc harder or I'm just playing much worse cos I'm not on psyker or ogryn.

previously it was great
still is but I've been having stagger issues outside of havocs that were not durring the immunity window
why not both
I'm still new to the "newwe" havocs tbh. I haven't been playing them.
I thought we already knew that?
There's plenty of quirks that I am not familiar with.
I knew that. Do you?
Arby is mini oggy for a reason.
Oggy can go into backline more free.
Because of bigger cleave compared to arby.
And confident strike skullcrusher combo.
ogryn too good
Maybe I need to play the regular shock maul for that combo.
But its poop damage compared to arby maul.
also still deciding between mk4 and mk7 taxe
But you have built in confident strike since you stagger on literally every hit.
Maybe I drop 1 damage blessing for confident strike.
No you don't cleave as much.
Bruh do you even play arby in h40?
Im not finding I need conf strike on arby tbh
Try to stagger a wall of crusher and bulwarks healing each other.
You just can't cleave through them all.
Oggy can charge right through and kite easier with super long charge.
Ogryn > arby > zealot > vet
Yeah with the right keystone it's very good toughness gen.
But isn't that the thing? Oggies are broken. They tried to make Arbites "worse" than oggy. But Arbites are stronger than Zealot and Vet by a very obvious margin. Psyker be psyker. Paper glass cannon.
right keystone gonna get nerfed
also buff middle keystone

either right keystone nerf or break the line nerf
What.
middle keystone tree also easily the worst out of the three
This.
has 2 good nodes
Can I see your arby gameplay staggering everything.
In h40 with a bunch of ogryns charging you down.
lmao
The plugin for the plugin with boobs
Ye the sus looking boobies ovenproof.
I'll figure it out eventually.
As in, Arbites have a node that just gives them that since if you are using Arby weapons... they just stagger something on every hit. So couldn't they use some other blessing instead of taking that?
I like using shield special against burster it's very cool.
yea, it's cool
But for some reason dash doesn't work
You will just explode because bursters don't care
But it looks SICK
I dont know you tell me since youre pro
I dont even know what youre on about.
It doesn't work against monsters
confident strike is much better and always works
I would put confident strike on maul and shield
Maybe I should just go sleep. Over two days isn't helping train of thoughts and such.
Opportunist is not THAT important
I use confident strike high voltage on shield
Have not played it in havoc yet
You don't really have a good source of bleed for it to be worth anyway.

I mean, the IRL gremlins are the same anyway.
download, drag and drop into folder
that's it
i screenshare it even xd
I prefer cat
Give arby pet cat
I already asked for that. I wanted a big cat... Leopard or white tiger.
how does the arby shock maul even fair in havoc anyway?
its goated
It does huge single target damage with very decent horde clear
White tiger seemed cooler at that point in time.
I want a cheetah irl but I have a child so that’s not very responsible lol
Heavy light single target dps is bonker
Or a Lioness, they pounce their prey and hunt in groups as well.
Real og call it chastise the wicked
I've called it chastise for so long that I was confused when I looked it up
cos it didn't match have abilities connected xd
Any tips for building a combat shotgun on a gaze psyker? Wanna give it a go
There’s brand new people going into havocs with garbage gear and no idea how heinous ritual works :((( oddball was right
Maxed out mastery and got a 60% mobility one to template
I had to explain it to one guy after he yolo’d the hex while the team was dealing with double chaos spawn
Anyway, gonna force a nap. It's like nearly 3 days now.
Double daemonhost spawn be they skipped over the last one after i cleared the front side. So they’re fighting the first one and we’re moving into another one
Two different teams too btw
Full Bore agripina
Always aim down sights
Get Surety of Arms
If affects your loading special ammo as well

the boltgun in this game is good but I'm starting to doubt a 40k game will ever have a lore accurate bolter
now granted, those things are OP
like, 40-60 bolts in a mag
all of them blowing things up
rogue trader?
Because argenta with a bolter shoots like 20 rounds and kills everyone in a cone
I always thought darktide doesn't have actual bolters
We have boltguns which are actually useable by normal humans
but I have no idea if this is true
yeah that one was pretty accurate
they're both bolters, they just have different versions
there's the astartes one
which is so heavy and kicks so hard that using it would break your arm and several ribs
then the standard one which is for anyone else
this is not the general chat I'm sorry
So I was almost correct
It's just that bolter and boltgun is the same thing, just different names?
yeah
Like any other mod? Is there an order it has to be in for the loader?
It overwrites the vanilla ovenproof
so, is there a better way to apply soul flame other than the fire wand and Venting shriek at about 80%-97% ?
no you already have the mod
by downloading it and replacing your current one, it just updates
Yes, so if you follow the left side of the skill tree, there are a few nodes that increase soulflame spread
no need to wrry about anything else
any ideas as to how i can make it stronger?
1 second, I'll share a build
do Quietude and Warp Expenditure count excess peril?
Okay, only important part is the talent tree. I didn't edit anything else.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f443718-6dcb-4f47-99f6-61743126f81f/firebrand?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
My brain is cooked. I am having trouble remembering words even. Not trying to be obtuse.
Do I put the updated plugin in the darktide mods folder or into the original ovenproof folder.
that's going in the link Vault. cheers!
if you put it in the original folder it will overwrite and should work
if you put it in its own folder you have to add it to the load order seperatly
but as long as its lower in the order it will also work
i did the second one
i havent tested just overwriting but it should be functionally the same
i've got a few suggestions on how to maximise the crowd control aspects of this build.
Is this for purgatus?
If I have 10% peril and I Venting Shriek does that count as 10% or 50% quelled?
Similarly, if I have 90% peril and I activate a Force Sword, does that count as 10% or ~20% generated
the thing you download is called mods, open it up and then you get the ovenproof_scoreboard or whatever. Just drag and drop that into the mods folder into where your darktide mods are stored
then it will ask if you want to replace
and you say yes
cos gigachad
would you like to see what i've projected for my Crowd control Flame build? it's a W.i.p at the moment, i'm almost lv 25, but i'd like some feedback
what the fuck is a purgatus?
i don't see the point tho, arbites kill all the specialists before the skull crushing blitz can.
it needs a damage buff imo. (idk, i'm lv 24)
it should one tap mutants at least.
no it shouldn't
That would be 4000 damage
Which is more than crusher has health
Can't quell -1% nor generate 101% peril
it can kill crushers?
if it 1shot mutants it would 1shot crushers
Not quite
Mutants take 3 times melee damage
real ogs still call them trauma & purgatus
idk the exact brain burts adms
and vs maniac?
i call it "arson crack"
we call them purgatus and trauma because new names suck, they are boring and unoriginal
surge staff my beloved
oh yeah i forgot surge staff was renamed too
not even the "fuegonasus special"?
.
but electro is probly a better name so theres no overlap with the blessing
that one's ok
Arby's damage is no longer filling chat, but the dog's is. With both versions of the updated plugin
?????
Huh
EP should be an extra 50% to BB
did you get the "beta"
one?
i fucking hate mutants... not a roadblock, just tanky as fuck.
I've tried both. Currently non-beta
thats why they take triple damage from melee
non beta works for me
So
1350 to a Crusher with 50%
Should be 2025
no one's using bb anyway
I give up for now. I can't do it.
Is Fatshark stealing damage from us
to be fair, the deimos sword is, like, the only way i can kill them quickly.
is ok
Bet that's exactly what happened
I knew it
a handful of melee can reach 1shots with the right setup
im sure theres some ranged that can too
how did you even respond so fast
I type fyre and you just appear out of nowhere
i'm too busy getting my build ready for lv 30...
Appeared just in time
toughest disabler special, but dont permanantly grab you like the others
FGS?
force great sword
Thanks for help with mods. btw
nppies
a what???
Abbreviations and staff builds in pins.
like this?
my psyker is quite short
Deimos is just a respectable dueling sword
gotta unlock em
Why did the put the chainaxe on psyker
i feel like they show up but are greyed out
does it show up at 24 or 25?
idk when FGS unlocks
Because 40k wizard
Show me the chainaxe psyker build please
yeah darktide is really good about hiding how to unlock stuff after you unlock it
same as normal axe
FUCK it, i'll check the fandom wiki to see if they wrote it down.
The normal axe guh
@summer prairie
THEY DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN!!!
classic fandom
they missed out on the ENTIRE CATEGORY OF GFS....
does it not show up in your brunt?
fiiine, i'll turn on my xbox rq.
i'm not, just doing research without the arbites class drawing me away from studies.
i get distracted.
it's a fun class.
yes
can smite crit?
After playing arbites for a bit. Psyker still more fun and better for me
Nuh uh
i could give you some aquilas right now, but i'm saving for when the krieg cosmetics come back.
Sure, keep em
keep hoping man

they will surely come back
It's just no
I don't really want to buy stuff from the shop
It cant
Because the shop sucks
no

sort of...
When they gave free aquillas I bought the ogryn shield cosmetic
Because everything else sucked
it's not crit
another fucker using smite in malice
It's not crit
closest. thing.
If it can crit then it can use a lot of talents or proc them. If it can't, then it can.
you want the gorde of rager's to stand still, or do you want them to dogpile you?
Neither
I want them dead
You just kill them
I crave chaos
Smite if it could crit with EE
I want enemies to have AI so I can play the game.

asking a question in psyker chat and having your brain flooded with a million psychic answers directly into my brain stem
no, my build is for making hordes easier to kill.
i esplode
I'm going to download the single player mod
Show of hands, who pondered their orb today?
or someoen q and get me into auric or somethin
Fatshark removed the orb

No
won't contribute to your grind tho
no you're fucking kidding 😭
o
i can private game!
i forgor
with a friend
oh
stuck with shitty veteran bots tho...
vet bots are better than smite players
i don't care if they're dead
i can play in a little bit
please :)
won't be H40 so should be ok
until a bunch of heavily armored ogryns turns the corner...
15 min
And DIE
if you knew how I play
you would know this is what I enjoy
shout them on fire and start whackin
yeah, because i'm electrocuting them, giving time for the heavy hitters to do their thing!
no, you shuld be killing them
Real
18 to 22 seconds EP smite to kill them
KILL

i'm crowd control, not my job.
Sorry position is taken!
YOU'rE KILL
Don't worry, 40 ragers with die all at once in one business day.
*using smite
More than 8 seconds and you’re just playing with it
i don't have the build for it yet.
i'm learning assail on the side for now.
assail is cc
introducing purg staff
eating yogurt with a fork is cursed
that's why i use a warpfire build, to kill fodder enemies, considering how many arbites i encounter that delete elites like it's breathing.
After a game with a smite player
Auidibly made me laugh
fuck
that actually made me tear up
no "on dodge" or parry for you
i'm not putting points into an aspect i'm unable to do, due to the ammount of people running "pick" builds.
rip if you have a crusher pack with a smyker and you have a devil's claw
That game
I was trying to explain to my girlfriend
how fucking boring smite was
during the finale
I got up
and was like
totally not based on a real life example
"Look I won't even get hit"
and I did a whole fucking dance
petted my cat
Began making tea
came back
and legit
still hadn't been hit
cat gaming
this guy still holding smite 2m later
you're exaggerating
I’m crying
drop the patch version, there's no way.
Sins smite hero while he’s making tea
it's to set people on fire like a heat sink
it's a soulless ability fueled by the sadness of all the others who have to play with these nomlings
"hero"
Legit. Yogurt + fork sucks. Too bad that's all I have right now.
ily
Sorry not sorry
I love killing them
then just running past their rescure
in fact I add more rope to them
I'll kill them while they're rescuse
d
Break off the tongs carefully and use it like a spoon 😉
perma execution
It’s too bad we can’t team kill 😢
you bash crowd control psychers so much, but have no idea how fun it really is.
if you can't hunt with a dog
Hunt with a cat
yeah I'll show you what to do
if you press windows key
you get this
if you hit shutdown
you get the same gameplay as a smyker
either would just eat the yogurt
prob for the best.
I don't process dairy the best
Okay that's enough hating for today
jokes on you. i'm on console.
This is a good time to tell the legend of Mishima
It’s really fun killing smytkers 🙏
worth the talent point then ya?
like how zealots charge in only to get their shit wrecked by a crusher i refused to stunlock.
You must play with some real salt of the earth types
Bro's not a hater😭
What difficulty, heresy?
You gotta drop that smite diss track homie
it's an act but the more I talk about it, the more I actually feel it's real
randoms who can't dodge, yes.
it's consuming me
Real
If they’re occasional smite users fine that’s cool
But the tape down button crowd I will execute anytime
@hearty wolf it's time
Even Vader team killed one
yay
i've saved games using smite, it's underrated as a utility.
So we’re at clandestime glorianum because I’m trying to unlock auric still
There’s a smyker named Mishima. He’s hanging in the back carefully the whole game
I’m trying out Chaos’s bubble knight and it’s killing it
Only problem is Mishima is literally following me everywhere and laying into smite from behind me
At the end of the match where the mobs coming I’m going to town and running everywhere. Literally sprinting to get by myself
Nope. Mishima right behind me
I’m on the most thumb blistering roll ever trying make a kill count for my own
Game feed like
“Mishima killed dreg gunner”
“Mishima killed mutant”
“Mishima killed rager”
“Mishima killed sniper
“Mishima killed rager”…
Probably sedition reject
is inferno staff 'warpfire' dmg or no
think my scoreboard isnt working
but not sure
i'm level 24, still learning the game.
came here for criticism, not blind ignorance
Nothing wrong with that
You will become much better much faster doing literally anything else
I’m fairly new also
@wispy bay you wanna join us to finish leveling arbys?
I am an ancient from the days of yore 🙏
Sure
kk
Yeah this is geniuinely real. Using smite as a tool will make it much harder to adapt to other parts of psyker
i've seen some people here be really cunty to people asking questions
not only that
just ignore them or tell them to sod off
i can't, the arbites are too powerful for me to be useful in any other way... i can't kill elites, BB is too slow. they're too efficient
wat
Psyker is shit until 30 basically
it has always been that way
i used to be a vet main, lv25.
BB is quite bad sadly
^
They're not. Psyker is just kind of rough to level.
assail is a pretty damn good blitz while levelling
so what am i supposed to do other than tase priority targets?
Every wizard class in video games is shit at low levels
You are not any main if you are not even at level 30...
Learn to melee with psyker and you will learn a ton of useful skills that scale well into high difficulty
Gun psyker
I'm still leveling my Psyker (at 15 right now) and I just use Assail and the MK8 Greatsword

staffs are kind of shit for a while
if you right click to aim with assail and then through, it has better damage and insane range
worst case you dump 2 shards to kill whatever
also remember assail can headshot
Longer cast time tho
you mean my ass-ail build?
Yeah assail is extremely effective for bullying other players
yeah but I assume if it's a prio target, you're gonna be right clicking cos they're further
It mulches through anything that isn’t carapace or boss
otherwise you need to full release those shards all over the screen
is scriers gaze really worth it for a new player? it seems like it's bad on paper.
The pinned builds in here are all solid
No Scrier's Gaze is awesome
It’s extremely powerful
I would say no
Couple it with disrupt destiny and you get to have a lot of fun in melee
i love gaze and get solid mileage out of it
Idk how it is during leveling tho
They added all this stuff long after I leveled psyker
im used to the game's song and dance
this seems like it heavily relies on accuracy...
if you're new to the game i would run shield
shield also very good
big middle finger to gunners
These are all solid builds #psyker-class message
when you get really into the general gameplay flow on higher difficulties i would absolutely try scrier's gaze if you want a nasty melee psyker
i am planning to do assail/gaze/disrupt for my psyker by level 30
with the greatsword
because its fun as hell to use
i know that, i'm not doubting. it's just that i'm not good at aiming and haven't found a sensitivity i'm comfy with.
scorebored isnt updated for arbites
still updates properly for what any arbites class does it just goes crazy in chat from it
do i have to get the kill for disrupt destiny, at least?
if so, i'll ask the randoms to hang back and let me have fun.
assuming they speak english, that is.
@spare comet @pine oyster we can all run a lobby together to level you guys if you want. I’m on but only playing for grabbing diamantine right now. Perfect to show you guys some things and make good builds for you
that would be appreciated
psyker and zealot are my only other classes to max out
then i will have all level 30s
You do have to get the kill but on higher difficulties it’s less of an issue. I’m guessing you are still on one of the lower ones at 24
i can't do that, it's late and the folks are sleeping...
100%
and again, arbites don't fuck around.
No mics required if you’d like
You can also try bumping the difficulty up a notch. You’ll probably die but it won’t be the worst way to learn. Make sure not to bother with wound curios, every other kind of curio is more effective b/c they keep you alive
stuck on heresy atm.
Man I died so so so much early on
Wound curios are making yourself weaker to be picked up more
soo, run toughness and health exclusively?
arbites are not as OP as you're making them out to be
You can add me to your party using the game code in my name from the social tab
it's just because EVERYONE is playing them right now
lol
on heresy? are you sure?
Yes
Everyone is OP on heresy
True
If you pick the Lingering Influence modifier of Disrupt Destiny, you can have a really high uptime on the buff, also damaging the marked target refreshes your current stacks
Arbites is strong but not as strong as you are saying
except psykers like me who go crowd control due to greedy arbites stealing all the kills.
I get that you are leveling. But as a psyker I will kill all the enemies before arby can even get to them
Kills aren't important, crowd control is essential, you are needed psyker.
Yea they are late. Commerce to the new DLC but yes, it’s old heads mostly
Not when I steal their job on Ogryn
go my karsolas heavy spam
@spare comet guessing this is you in my party now?
i run smite, your next line is something related to how smite allegedly sucks.
Ok please gimme a couple minutes kitty wants to play and she was sad when I wasn’t
i'll be on, let me find my phone and boot up the xbox.
There are better options for sure. Smite is good crowd control. But if everyone else is dead it won't help you.
it's why i run warpfire to make up for horde damage.
staff and passive warpfire stuff, i mean.
It doesn't.
@spare comet ok think she’s down for now. Game on?
i downloaded the ovenproof update, and im playing psyker flamestaff but it says warpfire dmg 0
Sure
is flamestaff itself warpfire?
It's good if you can make it work. Just know that in Havoc, you might be shooting yourself in the foot.
it applies warpfire stacks, good for getting the arson started.
That's why I use all the talents I shared earlier, fire spreads for any reason and every kill on affected enemies gives you toughness back.
i run forcesword with deflector and am aiming to get the peril blocking thing to maximise it.
i'm aiming to run a build, if you're curious would you like to see it?
i've been using fyrestone's melee build as a reference thus far
it's what i'd choose if i were lv 30...
Sure, Psyker was my first level 30 character, so I could take a look.
Ahhhh, the build with warp expenditure 
alright.
@spare comet gonna wait on @pine oyster then you guys boot up what you’re comfortable with. Mic up preferably
I don't have an actual proper answer
But the stream itself is considered a Warp attack that applies Soulblaze, which should be the warp fire
Or let me know you can here me
Yes, all dmg from that staff is soulblaze
i dont play with mic 💔
Logging in rq.
Ok that’s cool just type then
it's time to upgrade
gg @hearty wolf
dont worry i type fast
Ready.
Add me from code
I’d assume. It’s fine with me
That's pretty solid, I personally don't like to rely on crit chance unless I can get at least 50%. It has less survivability, but if you want to set everything on fire, I would recommend making a second preset and trying the build I shared.
I got a damage node from that run
so am even stronker
Wait, the build relies on crit chance?
The blessing you have on your greatsword.
Added
I'll rework it. It's only a concept anyway.
Yes. You’re not putting up huge damage using both smite and purge staff at the same time. Diemos is poweful but it’s only your melee not distance
It's not a bad choice, but likely your source of soulblaze will be the staff
@pine oyster @spare comet get your builds how you want then start up a level you’re comfy with
Yeah, distance is the one area i'm not focusing on...
Your mic is working.
Do you need a fourth?
If they don’t mind
Are you saying you can hear me?
I heard something bump the mic at least.
Ok good you guys can hear me then. Yea I’ll start talking when we get to the game
damnation time
i cant queue into damnation yet tho
Suffering builds character
If you want a fourth lmk
If you have someone who can you can
TRIAL BY FIRE BABY
@pine oyster @spare comet how about @dusty wagon comes along?
sounds fine to me
just getting weird stuff from ovenproof + new update playing flame staff. no warpfire dmg, my melee dmg higher than ranged? counting the flame staff somehow as melee?
I'm down.
@dusty wagon add from code
@dusty wagon have you joined?
Yes, do you have a voice channel?
We should probably do that. I can join on xbox so i'm covered.
@gray juniper do you have access to Discord VC on your xbox?
Asking In case we decide to move to a Team VC.
Yeah. Stam is also really good but controversial. Traditional pick for psyker is double toughness and an HP or double HP and a toughness. With the minors usually being health, toughness and ability regen
Did this always change your voice? I don’t think it did —but gosh dang is it annoying.
like it doesn’t make sense cause unlike the other collar there isn’t a mask
😠
There I’m done complaining now.
I almost always run 1 hp, 1 toughness, 1 stam
Stam is such good utility
Havoc is a different story tho
i like stam a lot too but its a controversial pick
@wispy bay gg congrats on 30
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My work start in 8 hours. Otherwise I would play more with you guys.
It's cool. I am enjoying a break. Rest these brains o mine.
To be honest, I don't think the Arbitrator is any stronger than the starter classes.
I wouldn't know. 
It does seem to enable people who are already good at the game a little more.
how the hell did i do 120k lol @gray juniper
Anyhow, see you guys in a few days.
im only level 14
my staff is garbo and my sword looks like this right now
no clue
maybe those greatsword heavies are just that meaty
they meaty
I think it's a decent margin above Zealot and Vet.
With the way the tree is structured and even just the base stats, it feels like you get quite a decent choice and fairly decent patching.
Class doesn't seem to struggle too much with opportunity cost
Arby is definitely stronger than Zealot and Vet
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Arby is 'middling' but is closer to psyker and Ogryn than Zealot and Vet by... a lot.
There's a significant gap of power.
And to be fair, part of that gap is ease of use. Vet can do some crazy things, you just need 100x the effort.
Yeah the conditions for a lot of Arby's talents basically don't exist lmao
toughness regen all match for checks notes expending stamina
That being said
They probably can't out finesse a zealot

It might be it. When I play Vet, I feel so much easier. Maybe because Im used toI manage a dozen different buffs at the sametime.
One node keeping an entire class from 💀 reactions
Casual Zealot W
The thing is, it's not just like it cranks out toughness like psyker but it also has tons of DR on top of it. It's stupid
Yeah, is like Oggie. I casually survive overheads 
I think Arby is good at everything, but doesn't hit the same heights as Ogryn or Psyker for their niches. Does beat Zealot and Vet imo
I mean, oggie is Arby but better, because oggie is good at everything 
For some like Vet WS, I just play with it better I guess.
I mean, I think the closest keystone to that on Arby is also the worst of Arby's keystones
I like the toughness regen of Arby. To the point that I probably overinvest in it to make up for my sloppiness in melee
I play Psyker because melee scary. Run away and burn things
Is cleave damage the dump stat on psyker's DS because the stat doesn't change its damage profile very much, or because you're not supposed to be swinging lights for cleave damage in the first place
Yes
I play psyker because I hate aiming. Arby has all shotguns 
That one on arby is so meh...
Me trying to melee on psyker is just dumping assails and running away.
The first
Nuh uh
and also the latter, but the first
I'm just tired of using the Zarona and find that the shotguns have pretty decent range so it works out lmao
Vet does seem to be more specialized in most builds vs Arby.
Shotpistol & shield is just the cooler zarona
What's the range on it like though? Swap speed?
And does it penetrate?
Couldn't one hit some of the enemies...
Penetrates more than Zarona
shotgun range is legit. The only game i've played where they behave closer to rl ones lol. Most games have shotguns tickle after about 10ft away
Wtf
Swap speed is pretty instant, at least for me
Well Zarona on Vet is hard to beat.
Range is worse than Zarona
but, like, you don't normally need the range of the Zarona
Zarona is the entire map so yeah xd
That's usually the niche I occupy though. Special killing is my thing but maybe I'll be more invested in melee and weaving shells for more damage uptime
It has very high pen. You can shoot through hordes for special kills. I have killed 3 maulers at once with it
Eh, it does struggle to 1 hit shotgunner or gunner sometimes.
I should hit 30 tomorrow with current gaming status and then we cook on havoc
Zarona is more solid in its stopping power.
I wish you good luck on getting curios.
Shotpistol, outside of monster dmg, is worse than zarona
Fuck em, I'd only put xp ones on anyway
I was playing meleeker with Void yesterday. My non-Assail SG "turn off brain press LMB" build. It's not great, but very fun
Out of curiosity, how do the executor shotguns stack up?
That's why I had wounds until like yesterday.
Mk8 is very good. Acts closer to zarona on special kills. Does respectable boss dmg too
VIII is the better one
Well, 1 hit most elite/special at medium range. Quite quick, but you reload so often...
I forget whether that's the brittleness one or the electrocution one
I have been gravitating towards agrip shotty on arby
Fun is the important part. When I make myself commit to melee, I path into BB. 😭
mk8 is a sniper rifle with good boss damage
Long barrel is the brittleness, short barrel is the shock.
And long barrel is also the viii ya?
Though, after a while using the Arby shotgun, I picked up the VAG and I can do similarly. Not insta kill, but have better ammo eco to kill specialist hordes.
I can't remember.
But having 4 rounds in the magazine is kind of eh for me.
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Yeah, that build is BB+KF for maximum no-brain
all brain
Curios are largely personal choice. The standard rec is 201 HP with x1 sniper resist. That let's you tank a sniper and multiple bursters.
If you do a lot of pushing and push attacks, then a +3 stam curio is nice (410 or higher otherwise it's actually a +2).
Stam regen isn't recommended because psyker has a short stam regen delay, so you can stay in positive stam.
Basically do what you like.
Common combos are
x2 tough and a +3 stam
x2 health and a +3 stam
x2 tough and a health
X2 health and a tough
I really, really, really hope that all the smykers swap mains to Lone Wolf arbites with shock mines. So much more useful.
They cc... and actually help the team
Pocket smyker
perks for them are usually health, toughness, CDR, gunner resist
i was gonna run 2 tough 1 health
Smykers just kind of waste air and stall matches
They shouldn’t have made the penance 15 million kills or whatever the number is
Getting 2+ tard smykers is vomit inducing.
1 is bad enough
I don't remember mine fully
But I got 201 HP and the rest toughness
I wish theyd remove smite from the game
200 HP + sniper resist
Allows me to survive 2 burster/snipers
And that's all that matters
No matter how well you play, a sniper'll get ya
Blocked in by Ogryn enemies, skipping the audio cue, 360-no-scope, whatever they must do
I was suffering some insane dropped inputs yesterday in a few games. Culminated with the server crashing and everyone being booted. Twice. Once was ~2 minutes before victory
I legit rage uninstalled because the server ate my inputs for 15+ minutes in 3 different matches

It's a
Smite psyker that smites a lot
Infectious Headache my beloved
Best Mortis ability hands down
They have a reputation similar to knife zealots running ahead and dying immediately
oh
ok i get it now
Smite turns the game into fish-in-a-barrel simulator, and smykers often do not have good mechanics if they can't smite
Pair smite with a good player
Thanks for the tip
You should double down on smite
No
Just avoid bubble smite
Uh
No but seriously
Smite falls off on havoc
I need to grind H40s so I can get my rank back.
Is it really that
Okay
Too much mass, too much hp
x4 smite psyker in H40 glory.
Final toll being cc immune
I figured
Bosses not really caring about smite
Sadly, smite does not stun 5 bosses trying to jump your bones at the same time
I would be abusing it so hard if it did
I don't hate smite all of the time. I just don't want it to stop the game and slow us down from keeping a decent pace. I don't mean speed running either.
I don't mind when a moment is overwhelming a smite give us enough to regroup and restabilize.
You should double down on smite
But that is so rare.
But at least sends a message
Also, did they change smite's color? Non EP smite used to be blue and EP smite purple. Not even non EP blue looks purple.
theyre out here
funnily enough that only brings the total number of dredds ive seen to three
smite has always been more purple than staff
I swear it used to be blue



