no, it's just what happens when you have TRILLIONS of people
#psyker-class
raven mountain
Yes, by objective mathematical understanding, there are other stories that go on in that universe.
blissful solar
im not saying it applies to like the majority, i have no idea
summer timber
and do you think those trillions of people only exist for a temporary period of significance
raven mountain
But the overarching plot of the universe is to live.
summer timber
if some 50 year old dies in a meaningless war is his story or life any more insignificant than some 20 yr old?
raven mountain
And we have fun engaging in their little warfare.
blissful solar
im basically just saying that if someone's entire life is to be tortured every day and they will NOT be saved then they might as well just die sadly
summer timber
everyones story is as important as the next
raven mountain
And yeah, that's a great perspective for someone outside of their context.
blissful solar
i mean if they want to believe they should go on
raven mountain
And I'm sure some of them choose that.
raven mountain
You're also talking philosophically.
raven mountain
WE know.
blissful solar
yeah they dont*
nocturne dust
I mean, I think you've lost the plot a bit here.
My point is I dislike Wh40k because it is emotionally bland. All that exists is suffering and war (yes, paradise planets are mentioned but they're also never shown and never really focused on, all Wh40k cares about is the horror and the suffering). The problem is having the suffering and the suffering and the suffering all the time devalues practically everything. There is nothing really tangible to fight for other than basic instinct, and that's such a basic and uninteresting reason. This is my personal dislike, and you can't change that by philosophically waxing on about the beauty of said basic instincts, lol.
raven mountain
OUR perspective isn't the thing.
I don't care if you change your opinion or not.
You said you didn't get the point.
I explained it.
blissful solar
well, i think the convo started from the question of like "what is the point in 40k-denizens going on when their life is so shit"
so our perspective is somewhat relevant but the answer is basically "because they don't know how hopeless their lives are, we do though"
and not all of their lives are so hopeless anyway
nocturne dust
Also, Wh40k isn't even interested in those basic instincts and 'will to survive' either. Or it does a really poor job of showing it. Either way.
paper harbor
summer timber
I mean, I think you've lost the plot a bit here.
My point is I dislike Wh40k be...
I think you can find beauty in suffering sometimes. I had to read a lot of memoirs and first-hand accounts of disasters for school this recent semester and yeah even though i was reading about these tragic and horrific events there are times were the suffering enters the background and the humans just live in the moment of that suffering
raven mountain
Maybe I just read too much, but it's huge and glaring. I don't like suffering porn myself, but I can still understand and see it.
nocturne dust
ornate hamlet
Is there like no psyker guides pinned at all?
blissful solar
40k isnt suffering porn anyway
nocturne dust
Is there like no psyker guides pinned at all?<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
There's the Atheneum which is outdated 
blissful solar
there are things out there clearly made for sadists
summer timber
I think we also must understand that, in general, 40k is a ridiculous setting
nocturne dust
and also kinda opinionated
summer timber
like in terms of its scale
blissful solar
it's more like suffering softcore
ornate hamlet
There's the Atheneum which is outdated <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I decide to actually get my psyker leveled up and I see no info for it lol
raven mountain
But at least the Atheneum gives some idea of what's important for breakpoints.
summer timber
I decide to actually get my psyker leveled up and I see no info for it lol
there are some good options, what were you thinking of doing
blissful solar
i prefer it this way
i get psychic damage from hearing about detailed descriptions of suffering
these days
ornate hamlet
there are some good options, what were you thinking of doing
Mmm I’m something centered around smite and telekine shield
raven mountain
I usually tell people to just play assail until they get into their 20s so they can level without issue.
ornate hamlet
I’m going into psyker with no prior knowledge about the class besides small things
summer timber
Assail is pretty good low levels because its good without keystone
raven mountain
At least by like 23-25, you have enough points to actually put together a build with functioning parts.
summer timber
I’m going into psyker with no prior knowledge about the class besides small thin...
just know, this is going to be a nightmare
a lot of psykers good abilities you dont get until ur higher level
but its worth cuz psyker has some good tricks up their sleeve
ornate hamlet
just know, this is going to be a nightmare
I mean vet was pretty fucking atrocious as well lol
summer timber
I mean vet was pretty fucking atrocious as well lol
Yeah, but this is going to be worse
Because you're more squishy on top of everything else
It'll be fun
dont listen to me
anyway
raven mountain
That, and you kinda need stuff from all over the tree to really put together both your offensive and defensive packages.
summer timber
You do need a lvl 30 psyker tho
because they are nuts
its worth the wait and pain
raven mountain
And it doesn't help that most of the staves work off density of enemies, and low difficulties don't have that.
Voidstrike just doesn't hit the same when you're popping single shotgunners.
raven mountain
Sure, but not having shout isn't the same as trying to use a 200 stat inferno staff on 3 walkers
One's unfortunate, the other is just sad.
summer timber
Mmm I’m something centered around smite and telekine shield
dang thats crazy i dont have a smite bubble build
raven mountain
My issue with smite+bubble is that bubble really wants warp charges, and smite really wants EP (if it's going to be used a lot)
summer timber
I think shriek smite is best way to go personally for smite
in havoc too
well
maybe not high havoc
raven mountain
And warp charges are hard to get with smite because you aren't actually killing much.
summer timber
And warp charges are hard to get with smite because you aren't actually killing ...
with EP you are
summer timber
yeah lol
raven mountain
Can you have Warp Charges and EP?
raven mountain
The mechanics of the game that literally block you from taking the talent.
summer timber
🤬
ornate hamlet
So lending up smite will be as painful as vet
raven mountain
EP shriek smite is pretty cool
summer timber
So lending up smite will be as painful as vet
Probably
When i started playing psyker
I went Assail vent EP
raven mountain
And with both EP and shriek, you can actually do -some- work.
summer timber
That was really fun when I was just starting out
It wasnt great
But I enjoyed it
raven mountain
But yeah, Assail+shriek is kinda the easiest way to get started.
ornate hamlet
What’s EP
raven mountain
Enhanced Psionics?
summer timber
Empowered Psionics
raven mountain
Middle keystone
summer timber
^
raven mountain
that
ornate hamlet
Ah
summer timber
That build is really good at giving you an idea how to manage your peril
raven mountain
Basically just makes your blitz stronger. It's actually pretty nice and comfy, but it lacks a bit compared to the other two keystones ime.
summer timber
Cuz EP will give you bonus damage for 1 shard and make it cost no peril, and if you brain get too hot by accident just press F and problem is solved
i only ever use it on smite personally
raven mountain
And that EP shard is free to cast, and it doesn't count against your 10 shards.
summer timber
but for you until you get bored with it youll be fine
raven mountain
So you can actually gain shards if you're wiping a shotgunner train inside of a horde.
And it pierces better, giving it better chances of doing that. It's not uncommon to throw like 20+ before running out.
nocturne dust
I will never accept EP as long as I can't get stacks on specialist kills with it
strong gulch
give me 4 casts so I can slowly make cubes
ornate hamlet
How is the blaze force sword?
summer timber
@ornate hamlet I have no idea how good it is, people here can be the judge of it in case im missing anything, but heres a Assail EP build you can work towards, its what i used but i had to remake it from memory so idk
for weapons you should experiment with the staves and avoid using the guns until youre ready for a gunker build, in case you could care less for them then do whatever you want
summer timber
this is also my smite build, i use electrokinetic stave for this one
ornate hamlet
I still have to level up this class lol
summer timber
yeah i know im just saying so you can reference for later if you want
you say there is no guide i try to help
ornate hamlet
this is also my smite build, i use electrokinetic stave for this one
Hmmm I’ll try to follow this path once I have enough talents
summer timber
Hmmm I’ll try to follow this path once I have enough talents
yeah, make whatever think will be good for you. psyker is a lot of fun to play and ireally enjoyed learning them
different type of game
ornate hamlet
Isn’t telekine shield better for havoc anyway? It’s all I see in high havoc
Minus the smite users who are rare
nocturne dust
It absolutely is better unless you have a truly cracked team
summer timber
Shooters are still a big problem, but most of them are usually on fire or busy running away, but they got nerfed so if ur good then you can just slide around them
nocturne dust
but it becomes a crutch outside of high havoc
strong gulch
Mk 4
Deimos. It's good. Single target weapon that has a good amount of defensive utility. The H2 is where most of the damage is; and that H2 to a head can knock a crusher on its butt.
Best single target combo is L1 H2, but heavy spam is easier. If you block cancel, you can L1 spam really quickly.
summer timber
i think outside of havoc, my smite build is "meta"
like
you will be gaurenteed a win if nothing goes horribly wrong
because everyone is just always CC'd
nocturne dust
Shooters are still a big problem, but most of them are usually on fire or busy r...
In Havoc, it really doesn't take many shots to gib you even if you're slide spamming like a pro
Always safer to have bubble
summer timber
In Havoc, it really doesn't take many shots to gib you even if you're slide spam...
yeah i know, it can be tough, another reason why i dont like havoc
but if you set the shooter on fire or suppress them then they wont shot you
nocturne dust
Sure, but that requires you to... y'know, do that
summer timber
which is why ilike electrokinetic with smite cuz then i can just spam M1 and suppress everythingi nfronto f me
ornate hamlet
I’m testing it out in practice atm so it’s special is an empowered peril attack
summer timber
I’m testing it out in practice atm so it’s special is an empowered peril attack
thats all of them
ornate hamlet
And its push attack is a knockback?
nocturne dust
if they're far away or from multiple angles, you're going to have a bad time trying to rely purely on suppression/stagger
summer timber
And its push attack is a knockback?
if you do another attack after the double push, thats your pushattack
you get 2 pushes with force swords
summer timber
if they're far away or from multiple angles, you're going to have a bad time try...
yeah, but i can think of maybe 2 spots that are like that i nthe game
my personal gripe with bubble is that its not up enough
strong gulch
<@456226577798135808> I have no idea how good it is, people here can be the judg...
Since assail maxxing drop BM and either toughness node or solidity to take quick shards and MM.
summer timber
and i would rather dedicate my keystone to EP for smite rahter than WS for more bubble
nocturne dust
Practically every large room qualifies for that
any open area
Smite, Inferno, Trauma, they all have pretty limited range
ornate hamlet
you get 2 pushes with force swords
How does it work exactly? It feels a bit weird lol
Something I’ll have to get used to
It’s push attack feels a bit different
summer timber
Smite, Inferno, Trauma, they all have pretty limited range
M1 spam electrokinetic?
nocturne dust
How does it work exactly? It feels a bit weird lol
you have the normal push, and then your push attack is actually an extra-strong single-target push
summer timber
that thing is nuts at getting orbs out
nocturne dust
M1 spam electrokinetic?
Is weak in high havoc, also was nerfed
quell cancel ruined
summer timber
i dont mean that loser shit LOL
i mean the normal person method
where you just press
M1
ornate hamlet
you have the normal push, and then your push attack is actually an extra-strong ...
So can it stagger crushers bulwarks etc. on the stronger push or it doesn’t have enough stagger for them
nocturne dust
I mean, you can definitely use it
strong gulch
I’m testing it out in practice atm so it’s special is an empowered peril attack
Deimos special is largely ignored. It locks you in place and most of the damage happens at the end of the animation. It can be useful to build or maintain peril or get multiple stacks of uncanny strike since the special counts as multiple hits.
Also yeah there is a push and a PA (push attack). The PA builds peril if it connects and can knock over an enemy up to 9m away. Not all enemies get knocked over or stagger the same tho.
summer timber
Why cant you enjoy the game like a normal person
nocturne dust
but even if you did, it's only a straight line of suppression. You will get shot in Havoc.
summer timber
Why do you feel like you need to exploit
nocturne dust
So can it stagger crushers bulwarks etc. on the stronger push or it doesn’t have...
stronger push staggers all but bosses, so yes
nocturne dust
Why do you feel like you need to exploit
I don't exploit?
summer timber
but even if you did, it's only a straight line of suppression. You will get shot...
You'll get shot in any of the game modes?
nocturne dust
You'll get shot in any of the game modes?
in Havoc
strong gulch
All force swords and FGS (force great swords) have the same PA
nocturne dust
we're specifically talking about high Havoc here, or at least I was
ornate hamlet
Deimos special is largely ignored. It locks you in place and most of the damage ...
I mean the special feels similar to chain swords ngl
summer timber
Bubble can only help so much, im not saying its not a good option or that shriek is preffered over bubble, just that i would rather take shriek because it allows for a more aggressive playstlye centered around smite and CC
strong gulch
I mean the special feels similar to chain swords ngl
Ye same kind of lock.
summer timber
we're specifically talking about high Havoc here, or at least I was
i do not play havoc with psyker past 25
sorry you sit in party finder all day LOL
blissful solar
wraith sphinx
I wish I could have fun with scriers gaze on high havocs 😦 but rangeds are so unforgiving it's more brutal than cod campaigns on veteran
upper sun
NEW MARINA AND THE DIAMONDS SINGLES ARE OUT WOOOO
nocturne dust
i do not play havoc with psyker past 25
summer timber
ooooh god
blissful solar
NEW MARINA AND THE DIAMONDS SINGLES ARE OUT WOOOO
havent seen that name in YEARS...........
summer timber
oooh god he doesnt play the high level content
noooo you have to get 1 shot by some little poxwalker
nocturne dust
I mean
upper sun
havent seen that name in YEARS...........
Oh no!
summer timber
YOU HAVE TO PLAY HAVOC 40 OR YOURE NOT PLAYING THE REAL GAAAME
GRAAAH SUFFER WITH MEEEE
nocturne dust
YOU HAVE TO PLAY HAVOC 40 OR YOURE NOT PLAYING THE REAL GAAAME
is talking about high level content
doesn't play high level content
This is a you issue, actually
ornate hamlet
Ye same kind of lock.
High damage tho?
summer timber
> is talking about high level content
> doesn't play high level content
LOL
actual rage bait
upper sun
theyre kinda slop
blissful solar
ngl that's kinda why i hate havoc
upper sun
she fell off ngl
summer timber
void you have missed the point in literally every single conversation tonight
you have to stop smoking nitrous
wraith sphinx
that's just void
blissful solar
(posts a gif to attempt to improve the chat's morale)
wraith sphinx
like brother snark away all you want but tone doesn't carry well at all over text
summer timber
like im sorry i dont enjoy getting 1 tapped sometimes
nocturne dust
that's just void
Yes it is me
I am the dumb one for talking about high Havoc while playing high Havoc
wraith sphinx
(posts a gif to attempt to improve the chat's morale)
nocturne dust
clearly Ty, who doesn't play high Havoc, is smarter on this topic
I bow to their majesty
summer timber
i dont understand what youre getting at
wraith sphinx
see this is literally what I'm talking about
wraith sphinx
cool your jets lad it's just a video game
nocturne dust
cool your jets lad it's just a video game
summer timber
i am making suggestions based on my experience with the game, my experience with the game isnt havoc 40 because i think its boring and not worth my time, so i opt for the chiller option of maelstrom/lower havocs (25-30)
nocturne dust
Pretty chill, honestly
summer timber
least egotistical havoc 40 player
same kind of person to flame for loadouts in old havoc smh
nocturne dust
Yes
You will run what I want or I shoot you for your heresy
I am a commissar (I stole his hat)
strong gulch
High damage tho?
Yes but the H2 does slightly more and does it faster, up front, and more safely.
minor trout
https://tenor.com/view/mpreg-male-lactation-pregnant-mpreg-monday-omegaverse-gif...
I fucking hate this gif
ornate hamlet
Which sword has the blessing to block ranged attacks?
wraith sphinx
Which sword has the blessing to block ranged attacks?
both force swords
blissful solar
I fucking hate this gif
what if it said wpreg
wraith sphinx
it's the deflector blessing
strong gulch
Which sword has the blessing to block ranged attacks?
any force sword or FGS
deflector
wraith sphinx
mpreg is a terrible emoji and should be removed
blissful solar
you say that in JUNE of all months?
nocturne dust
Couldn't find the emoji, thank you @glacial vapor
wraith sphinx
yeah I do
nocturne dust
shows how much I use it, lol
wraith sphinx
90% of the time it's impossible to tell if it's being used as a ridiculous joke or a genuine transphobic insult
blissful solar
it's definitely a joke
wraith sphinx
unfortunatley I've mostly seen it used as latter
nocturne dust
Well, not homophobes, but anti-trans, whatever the term is
wraith sphinx
transphobes
nocturne dust
transphobes
That makes sense
strong gulch
I haven't seen it be used as a transphobic insult yet. I hope I continue not to see that.
glacial vapor
I don't think I've ever seen it used for trans stuff but I'm not always the most aware to these things
wraith sphinx
I haven't seen it be used as a transphobic insult yet. I hope I continue not to ...
if it's just used as a silly joke here I'm fine with that but since I've seen it used as a latter it always ticks me off alittle
strong gulch
if it's just used as a silly joke here I'm fine with that but since I've seen it...
fair
ornate hamlet
Well I can feel pain already
But it might just bc the teammates I’m getting have no idea what they are doing
Chaff feels like it’s up my ass 24/7
glacial vapor
You should really get that seen too
ornate hamlet
I’ll chalk it up to just unaware teammates atm
hopefully I’m not squishy like this all the time
wraith sphinx
I’ll chalk it up to just unaware teammates atm
if you're playing with randoms that is a given like, 85% of the time I'd say
reminds me of how I was also in the "wahh psyker bad because squishy" camp until I learned to look behind me every once in a while
the team can only help me if I help myself, y'dig
ornate hamlet
if you're playing with randoms that is a given like, 85% of the time I'd say
Well I’m not making a pre made just for pubs on leveling this class up lol I’ll just suffer through it
wraith sphinx
Well I’m not making a pre made just for pubs on leveling this class up lol I’ll ...
it was one of the rare times I genuinely had fun with the process
going through the motions of usual psyker pitfalls and learning not to kiss the floor
ornate hamlet
So is the mk 4 of blaze force sword the best or is just preference on which mark?
ornate hamlet
it was one of the rare times I genuinely had fun with the process
I mean yeah psyker def feels fun but I’m just not used to being so squishy
blissful solar
that is an ominous image
nocturne dust
that is an ominous image
vernal temple
strong gulch
So is the mk 4 of blaze force sword the best or is just preference on which mark...
For force swords
mk2 = obscurus
mk4 = deimos
mk5 = illisi
Obscurus and deimos are the better of the three. Both have very strong single target damage. Deimos has more CC and simpler to use while obscurus has horde combos but is combo depended (also doesn't knock things over with its heavies.
Illisi has a different niche, but is underpowered. Itmain thing is hordes but other melees have faster clear times. It is simple to use, can be chains stroked, has better mobility than FGS, and can have deflector. Generally a skip and I only recommend it on EK shriek spam build but is very replaceable.
Fatshark. Please buff illisi. Its heavies don't even pop players our of a Bon. That's really sad.
strong gulch
psykers survivability onion goes only to don't be hit
Until death at home.
ornate hamlet
For force swords
mk2 = obscurus
mk4 = deimos
mk5 = illisi
Obscurus and deimos ...
What blessing should I use besides deflector?
Uncanny?
wraith sphinx
Until death at home. <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
based lmao
strong gulch
What blessing should I use besides deflector?
For deimos if you're running deflector then yeah uncanny. Uncanny is the anchor blessing.
Perks depend on what you're using it for.
wraith sphinx
we really just become that what we hate (zealots)
ornate hamlet
Yeah I’m using demios
strong gulch
Yeah I’m using demios
Ye but is it for crushers and monsters or do you have a different answer to those. Manic is good for mutie one shots, unyeilding is good for monsters and ogryns (exept crushers), and cara is good for crushers.
strong gulch
we really just become that what we hate (zealots)
I was even out of position so I didn't get the golden toughness.
ornate hamlet
For curios would I be using any stamina regen
strong gulch
no
Psyker already has good stam regen.
CDR, toughness, HP, sniper x1, or gunner resist x3
gunner resist becomes less and less important as you get better at positioning and only protects against dreg and scab gunners and reapers
patent jacinth
Or you can run it anyway to play stupid intentionally and partially ignore target priority
wraith sphinx
yeah best stam regen in the game
strong gulch
Never learn a lesson. Honestly me.
wraith sphinx
I learn from history and still repeat it, I'm nothing like you
plucky flax
Its not stam regen it's stam regen delay. Psyker doesn't recover stam as fast as zealot
So if you want to actually fill the stam bar faster stam regen perk would help. But just take kd and not worry about any stam shenanigans
nocturne dust
I like sprinting and push attack weapons
I don't run regen even tho I slide everywhere and run knife
strong gulch
ye delay
wraith sphinx
oh oops my bad
minor trout
what if it said wpreg
I would hate it even if it said nothing
short vessel
Hey siblings, haven't played psyker in a while, is the big energy sword good now?
strong gulch
FGS? Always has been.
plucky flax
Is tru
leaden mulch
just wondering is Kinetic deflect work with Warp unbound?
strong gulch
KD stops converting stam to peril at critical peril (like 97% peril).
So it's not doing doing things with WU
You can't explode from KD.
minor trout
The one with multi target special attack
Not the big single target damage one
Tho that big single target is satisfying against bosses and elites
Is force greatsword still better?
strong gulch
Oh you meant the last force great sword mark
FGS8
It still has the big upper stab. Just after a PA.
strong gulch
I don't know what your mean.
Force sword marks are
mk2 = obscurus
mk4 = deimos
mk5 = illisi
Obscurus was the first one then deimos and illisi were released after.
I thin you mean illisi
multi target special
leaden mulch
I have 3 point left what should I get
strong gulch
FGS is better than illisi. Illisi needs a buff.
leaden mulch
agree
strong gulch
If you like it tho, keep using it.
strong gulch
I have 3 point left what should I get
What is the build for and what's the rest of the tree?
marble crater
I have 3 point left what should I get
It would help to see the complete build
marble crater
What is the build for and what's the rest of the tree?
Hi
marble crater
Buff illisi
strong gulch
nocturne dust
Buff illisi
Buff knife you say
strong gulch
This helps get a screenshot
marble crater
Buff illisi, buff EK
marble crater
Hmm
nocturne dust
Buff illisi, buff EK
Voidstrike crying rn
minor trout
The one that's last in the mark selection order
leaden mulch
is anticipation worth using?
I use Warp Unbound for long smite damage (EP) and spamming EK primary on elite
marble crater
I think I would rather use venting shriek with smite
strong gulch
nocturne dust
is anticipation worth using?
Yes, but not really
marble crater
Well, I'd rather not use smite at all...
marble crater
I use Warp Unbound for long smite damage (EP) and spamming EK primary on elite
If you really want more smite you could pick up empyric resolve, in the bottom left
leaden mulch
well in my experience it's better to have it in current havoc with multiple boss
leaden mulch
from my testing empyric resolve help extend about 2-3 sec, but help a lot when spamming EK staff
leaden mulch
between +5% range damage / Pots (10% rending above 75 peril) / Endurance (+20% tgh reduct on Scrier) / Warp speed (20% speed on Scrier)
rigid sky
fucking hate empyric resolve
ornate hamlet
How does the telekinetic staff fare? Is is it decent?
leaden mulch
Pots would help when WU active
rigid sky
Hey, you know the big upside that Psyker has in the incredible amount of toughness regen it gets? Yeah, let's just absolutely cripple that.
nocturne dust
between +5% range damage / Pots (10% rending above 75 peril) / Endurance (+20% t...
Well, don't take PotS at least
nocturne dust
Pots would help when WU active
yeah, and do practically nothing even while fully active
leaden mulch
I see
rigid sky
I'm happier with it doing nothing than it killing my toughness regen
cloud lichen
hey guys i really wanna use the psyker greatsword i just got back into the game so was curious on what builds i could do with it
nocturne dust
Hey, you know the big upside that Psyker has in the incredible amount of toughne...
The glass cannon being glass? 
rigid sky
hey guys i really wanna use the psyker greatsword i just got back into the game ...
It absolutely thrives in DD/SG builds, but probably works on a lot of other things too
It's an excellent generalist weapon
leaden mulch
I'm tempting to pick Warp speed, cuz psyker is very slow, but not sure if it really any useful
nocturne dust
FGS works well in any build as it is a jack of all trades
cloud lichen
what mark usually is used
nocturne dust
either/or
cloud lichen
and do you guys have any idea on the optimal combos
rigid sky
Everybody has their favourite
nocturne dust
Which mk you pick is based on preference
strong gulch
Most of psyker's toughness regen is kill or attack based. If you're doing those then the ER penalty is not very noticeable.
cloud lichen
What's a good generalist build for DD/SG
rigid sky
and do you guys have any idea on the optimal combos
Genuinely, just swing it around and see what makes sense. If you use the 8, you can light spam for trash and heavies or push attack heavy follow-ups
for big dudes
cloud lichen
rigid sky
Most of psyker's toughness regen is kill or attack based. If you're doing those ...
Or quelling, yes, but in all of those cases they all get nerfed by ER right?
cloud lichen
this is what im using rn but wanted to see if there is a better tree out there
rigid sky
and ER double-nerfs Quietitude gains
cloud lichen
Genuinely, just swing it around and see what makes sense. If you use the 8, you ...
ah yeah i noticed this
rigid sky
since it cuts your peril gain and cuts the toughness you get out of your peril
nocturne dust
and do you guys have any idea on the optimal combos
🚬 how optimal we talking
cloud lichen
the poke heavy after the push is crazy damage
cloud lichen
🚬 how optimal we talking
coming from zealot crusher
leaden mulch
I usually use MK 8, because normal atk speed is a lot faster, but weaker on Heavy attack
cloud lichen
i want the most optimal lol HAHAH
rigid sky
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da62e0d-1e0f-4d9b-adca-a60b3809dd98/ga...
oh god.
*gives in to the perils of the warp, as a better alternative to the pain of seeing that *
strong gulch
Or quelling, yes, but in all of those cases they all get nerfed by ER right?
You generate so much that's it not that noticeable. So generate a shit ton vs a lot.
nocturne dust
i want the most optimal lol HAHAH
Well, max optimal combo is mk dependent, obviously, but both do swap cancel shenanigans
strong gulch
and do you guys have any idea on the optimal combos
rigid sky
Blazing Spirit is a NEVER TAKE on melee weapons, to begin with
it's only for voidblast
on everything else it is absolute garbage, might as well be an empty blessing slot.
torn kernel
Well, max optimal combo is mk dependent, obviously, but both do swap cancel shen...
l1 l2 swap cancel everything
spam heavies for single target
dassit
nocturne dust
You want +carapace and +unyielding for perks on FGS
cloud lichen
Blazing Spirit is a NEVER TAKE on melee weapons, to begin with
yeah im running shred and wrath actually
torn kernel
if you want optimal optimal, yeet an assail when swap canceling
rigid sky
Shred is great
cloud lichen
with carapace and unyilding
nocturne dust
spam heavies for single target
Optimal mk8 is the push stab iirc
cloud lichen
more so looking for an optimized skill tree
torn kernel
Optimal mk8 is the push stab iirc
yeah but muh 10% peril on push
cloud lichen
I take Riposte for the other one
ahhh interesting
torn kernel
leaden mulch
Mk8
hoard : L1 -> L2 -> block cancel -> (repeat)
Elite/boss : Push block attack -> Spam Heavy
Mk 6
hoard : L1 -> L2 -> L3 -> block cancel / H1 -> (repeat)
Elite/boss : Spam Heavy
torn kernel
join the mk6 cult
cloud lichen
what a swap cancel
rigid sky
more so looking for an optimized skill tree
torn kernel
mk6 l3 is hella slow iirc
nocturne dust
Mk8
hoard : L1 -> L2 -> block cancel -> (repeat)
Elite/boss : Push block attack...
for max optimality, you cancel on l2 for mk6
marble crater
You generate so much that's it not that noticeable. So generate a shit ton vs a ...
I don't think I even notice the penatly anymore, it's something that can be dealt very easily anyway, don't stay out in the open and get hit
cloud lichen
Mk8
hoard : L1 -> L2 -> block cancel -> (repeat)
Elite/boss : Push block attack...
ah ive been doing this for mk 8 so that dope
potent echo
Mk6 is so good with activation swing into heavy stab
nocturne dust
also, don't block cancel, that's slow and will be worse than not cancelling
potent echo
Helps keep peril high for unstable and rider
strong gulch
what a swap cancel
A type of animation cancel. You shorten or stop an animation to a different one faster. Swap means you cancel with by swaping weapons.
rigid sky
@cloud lichen You can swap out ethereal shards and lingering influence for perfectionism and cruel fortune if you're feeling VERY spicy.
nocturne dust
you swap cancel instead
torn kernel
swap cancel my beloved
cloud lichen
A type of animation cancel. You shorten or stop an animation to a different one ...
ahhh makes sense
i will start doing that then instead
just a quick 1 2
nocturne dust
Much faster and better than block cancel
nocturne dust
Block cancels are often not even worth it
cloud lichen
for the elite or single target tdo i just loop the push attack into heavy
or spam heavies after
the stab attack
strong gulch
There is a unique animation on FGS after a swap that is fast.
torn kernel
for the elite or single target tdo i just loop the push attack into heavy
on mk8, yeah
cloud lichen
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9f16caba-8c8f-43e1-94bb-77af78...
dope thanks!
torn kernel
though the second heavy would probably finish off anything up to a crusher
nocturne dust
Deimos for example does l1 -> h (and more h and more h ad infinitum) because l1 -> h2 -> block cancel is so slow h spam is more dps, lol
torn kernel
watch the peril gen on push though
strong gulch
Deimos for example does l1 -> h (and more h and more h ad infinitum) because l1 ...
it's less fussy
nocturne dust
of course, you could always l1 -> h2 -> swap cancel but I don't cancel
strong gulch
just heavy
cloud lichen
so i could either go for PA heavy repeat or PA heavy then spam heavy
nocturne dust
I don't really consider it safe unless you're fighting single targets
paper dust
chat
torn kernel
idk i don't use mk8
paper dust
wait a min this isnt zealot chat
strong gulch
so i could either go for PA heavy repeat or PA heavy then spam heavy
on FGS8 specifically
nocturne dust
so i could either go for PA heavy repeat or PA heavy then spam heavy
the latter is better for big groups of elites, PA is single target and doesn't help much
marble crater
wait a min this isnt zealot chat
It is
cloud lichen
the latter is better for big groups of elites, PA is single target and doesn't h...
got it
rigid sky
I honestly just spam the heavy bonks on the fgs8, especially in late scrier's
I skip warp unbound
nocturne dust
and that's all for mk8, mk6 you just spam heavies
rigid sky
so getting too spicy with push attacks has killed me a few times
in theory they don't give peril if you miss them though right?
rigid sky
I guess I could push attack the sky
nocturne dust
in theory they don't give peril if you miss them though right?
they do
rigid sky
well never mind then
torn kernel
wait they do?
nocturne dust
They're also one of the few peril sources that bypass protection
rigid sky
I thought I survived once by accidentally whiffing the push attack lol
wraith sphinx
wait a min this isnt zealot chat
it is I swear
with knife and mettle I move just like a zealot
rigid sky
I must have gotten a soulstealer kill with an assail that was still zipping around
paper dust
you lie piss wizard
nocturne dust
so you can kill yourself from a force push even if below 100% peril, as long as the ending value is over 100%
wraith sphinx
I could never tell a lie
rigid sky
or maybe a blue boi was burning to death at the time
wraith sphinx
FALL
plucky flax
Fatalist personality is the corrupt cop that's so me 
marble crater
Hopefully the Arbites arrests all the Zealots
paper dust
https://tenor.com/view/weirdcat-funnycat-psychich-assault-gif-66649479801514757
your power will never work on me
nocturne dust
Fatalist personality is the corrupt cop that's so me <:whatthefuck_heresy:104972...
The depressed cop
plucky flax
The depressed cop
That's the maul
paper dust
https://imgur.com/jJPupDM
nocturne dust
That's the maul
No, Maul is clearly discount Zealot
torn kernel
wake me up when the arbiter drops i'm burnt outta this game 
wraith sphinx
FOR THE EMPEROR, I'M SURE...
blissful solar
wake me up when the arbiter drops i'm burnt outta this game <:ce_seepy_cosy:8650...
leaden mulch
what do you think about warp speed
nocturne dust
There are many lovers of it here
but frankly speaking, it's a comfort node at best
nocturne dust
Its biggest issue being that it is tied to an ability and is not active during the lingering effect, so you endure all of SG's cooldown without any benefit
strong gulch
Warp speed feels good but isn't needed. I take it on FGS because of that feel good.
leaden mulch
If i use Scrier + WU should I take K-Deflect ? or a waste node
torn kernel
KD is uh
nocturne dust
Kinetic Deflection is a god-tier node
torn kernel
very good
nocturne dust
and I will broker no argument
leaden mulch
Its biggest issue being that it is tied to an ability and is not active during t...
oh, so it's not active on lingering effect
torn kernel
easy revives? check
facetank bosses? check
what more could you possibly ask for
nocturne dust
(I may be biased)
nocturne dust
oh, so it's not active on lingering effect
fun fact, neither is the crit chance
or the tdr
strong gulch
The biggest reason to not take KD is if you get too used it and it fecks you up when playing other classes.
KD good.
nocturne dust
leaden mulch
fun fact, neither is the crit chance
but fitness is still active right?
nocturne dust
but fitness is still active right?
fitness?
leaden mulch
lol i mean Finesse
nocturne dust
leaden mulch
imagine psyker with dumbell
nocturne dust
Canonically, psyker has to go to the gym just to wield FGS
leaden mulch
strong gulch
Isn't only the up to 30% damage boost active during the lingering effect?
leaden mulch
yes, but I use it with EK staff, so very good
torn kernel
i swear i remember the finesse bonuses still being active
nocturne dust
Isn't only the up to 30% damage boost active during the lingering effect?
precog lingers
strong gulch
precog lingers
Is it precog or both?
nocturne dust
....there's no base finesse
strong gulch
I might be getting fecked up on multiple 30% things.
leaden mulch
with out precog +30% dmg
with precog +30% finesse
nocturne dust
the damage lingers, and precog lingers
leaden mulch
idk which is better
nocturne dust
only 2 effects that linger
nocturne dust
with out precog +30% dmg
with precog +30% finesse
they both linger with precog
the damage buff doesn't go away
strong gulch
the damage lingers, and precog lingers
Ok both not just one.
leaden mulch
really???? nice
torn kernel
if they made warp speed linger i will literally surrender all my mortal posessions to fs
strong gulch
Repeat 30%s fecking my brain up.
nocturne dust
Funnily enough tho, meta for staves (for damage) is usually shriek
SG may have big damage numbers, but it doesn't matter if it doesn't do anything meaningful
leaden mulch
is it good with smite, or just okish because I'm rarely proc it
torn kernel
shh
nocturne dust
is it good with smite, or just okish because I'm rarely proc it
almost always bad
torn kernel
SG may have big damage numbers, but it doesn't matter if it doesn't do anything ...
sg blazing flurry trauma is worth 
nocturne dust
Kinda okay on EP assail, but also you (should) have soulstealer so
nocturne dust
sg blazing flurry trauma is worth <:COPIUM:1240675314007281774>
Yeah, and my infinite Scrier's EK and big bossing SG Inferno are totally cool and effective
strong gulch
I'd take psychic leeching if I was doing a troll support build. Unlucky for some would be in it. So would a single point into shield to trick other players into thinking that they are safe from specials.
leaden mulch
between soulstealer and quietude which one should I pick for smite scrier ep with ek
nocturne dust
between soulstealer and quietude which one should I pick for smite scrier ep wit...
Both
torn kernel
ideally both
nocturne dust
strong gulch
both
nocturne dust
The one toughness node up top to not take is Warp Expenditure
leaden mulch
cant I dont have point left
nocturne dust
torn kernel
nocturne dust
Then I recommend you rearrange your tree because something may have gone wrong
(soulstealer tho, probably)
torn kernel
i mean if you have to drop one, soulstealer should be alright to drop
nocturne dust
yeh
strong gulch
On an EP build not having enough points for soulstealer and quietude is a choice.
nocturne dust
strong gulch
Elite aura 
nocturne dust
You could honestly drop mettle and perfect timing if you're going for a smite build
leaden mulch
which mod compact skill tree again, I cant remember
torn kernel
smite can't even crit can it
nocturne dust
can't crit, yeah
nocturne dust
Funny that one lightning is a crit machine and the other can't even
leaden mulch
I mostly use perfect timing for EK
leaden mulch
I only use Elite aura if no others psyker, normaly 10% cooldown
torn kernel
fair nuff ig
leaden mulch
forgot to change
strong gulch
Not really. It provides no meaningful BPs. I am not acknowledging LMB spam.
wraith sphinx
I don't use seers presence anymore because psykinetic is just better
strong gulch
both
nocturne dust
Not really. It provides no meaningful BPs. I am not acknowledging LMB spam.
it provides meaningful BPs for EK without perfect timing iirc
strong gulch
but SG doesn't need either
nocturne dust
but also, less than perfect timing
torn kernel
grow some balls, drop WU, and grab crit aura
wraith sphinx
if one goes scrier's gaze one would be foolish to use any aura other than prescience
strong gulch
EK build but no perfect timing is
nocturne dust
grow some balls, drop WU, and grab crit aura <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
grow some cahones, drop EP, forgo a keystone
wraith sphinx
I should update my gameslantern build
torn kernel
grow some cahones, drop EP, forgo a keystone
wait this isn't vet chat
leaden mulch
so if I drop PT what should I add? SS?
nocturne dust
Soulstealer, yeah
leaden mulch
or add extra node for prescience
nocturne dust
I would swap mettle to battle meditation as well
nocturne dust
or add extra node for prescience
no
nocturne dust
Prescience is the best aura but never worth an extra point
For instance, take a look at the iconless node above KD
torn kernel
tru
nocturne dust
it is the same thing
leaden mulch
thing is BM interrupt WU with warp rider
torn kernel
haven't they fixed the BM WU shenanigans?
nocturne dust
haven't they fixed the BM WU shenanigans?
didn't know there was even an issue
torn kernel
if BM procs after 100% but before WU kicks in it sometimes just pops you
torn kernel
and/or you lose WU and scriers goes into lingering mode
nocturne dust
and/or you lose WU and scriers goes into lingering mode
warp unbound is lingering mode
torn kernel
without the protection if the BM jank kicks in
it killed me a few times back in the day
strong gulch
If you're do EK aways, might as well take the crit aura. Now you have all the things. Could do reality anchor.
edit: lmao forgot quietude
leaden mulch
Psykinetic aura is must for me
nocturne dust
Psykinetic aura is must for me
It shouldn't be with Scrier's.
strong gulch
SG is up most of the time
torn kernel
but I don't think it is
haven't happened in a while
wraith sphinx
that too
torn kernel
nothing
leaden mulch
most of the time is not enough
I need it all time.
but seriously with PA most of the time after lingering effect end I only have to wait 1-2 sec (on havoc btw)
torn kernel
get a psyker buddy to supply the cdr for you
leaden mulch
if I keep playing with random, even 1 sec still count
wraith sphinx
like the highest havoc missions I've played in 2.0 is 29 and my only issue were the karnak twins and not waiting for scriers to get off cd
nocturne dust
most of the time is not enough
I need it all time.
but seriously with PA most of...
I play h40. No, you do not need psyk aura.
nocturne dust
I mean, sure, but it's not even a huge wall or anything. Psykh aura just doesn't offer as much value when you run SG, and the benefit it gives your allies is neat but often overstated.
wispy bay
Though you can stay in perpetual SG with PA.
If the Zealot run Chorus and Orgryn run taunt, you are kind of the damage carry while they spam their abilities. Though, it is not the best strat in some of the modifier.
nocturne dust
You can, but it's not much value to do so since you want to abuse the lingering effect anyway
wraith sphinx
can it really be called abuse though 🤔
wispy bay
Final toll with chaos orgryn wall push... shit out of luck.
nocturne dust
can it really be called abuse though 🤔
Grabbing it and stretching it until it begs for mercy and then wringing it some more to get every single ounce of usefulness out of it
Sounds like abuse to me
glacial vapor
You take Scriers Gaze to abuse Warp unbound.
I take it to avoid popping my head.
We are not the same
torn kernel
Grabbing it and stretching it until it begs for mercy and then wringing it some ...
maybe it likes it
nocturne dust
You take Scriers Gaze to abuse Warp unbound.
I take it to avoid popping my hea...
I take Shriek for that
torn kernel
nocturne dust
maybe it likes it
wispy bay
Self mutilation
torn kernel
yknow what psyker needs
a node that lets you cast at 100% peril at the cost of health
nocturne dust
Crystalline Will buff
torn kernel
maybe that way we can finally play martyrdom psyker
torn kernel
that's valid
torn kernel
that's just gunker without any of the fun bits
wraith sphinx
I don't want hp to become a new combat resource, no thanks
instantly reminds me of things like DAO's blood mage which was shit
strong gulch
1 hp lost per bullet
torn kernel
1hp gaming tho
strong gulch
zarona makes a comeback
torn kernel
imagine not only edging your peril but also your health
strong gulch
Who needs enemies when we have ourselves.
wraith sphinx
who needs enemies when we have zealots
nocturne dust
There's a very good reason Sienna remains the least popular in Vermintide 2
strong gulch
barrels
torn kernel
tru
wraith sphinx
I've never played vermintide
torn kernel
There's a very good reason Sienna remains the least popular in Vermintide 2
because she is the connosieur's choice
nocturne dust
I've never played vermintide
Psyker, but quelling damage you
wraith sphinx
ew
nocturne dust
is Sienna
torn kernel
skill issue
wraith sphinx
so do you just have to melee while waiting for peril to drop
or does she suck at melee
strong gulch
Get gud temps
nocturne dust
so do you just have to melee while waiting for peril to drop
That or take the HP hit to manually quell
wraith sphinx
doesn't sound very cash money!
nocturne dust
It wasn't.
strong gulch
VT is more melee focused than DT.
nocturne dust
yes
Except several classes that can literally headshot their way through the whole game without running out of ammo
strong gulch
There is a temp HP system that fill up quickly if you're built for it with your weapons and play style. So yeah you take damage from quelling but you also can refill. The problem is when you can't* refill you temp hp.
strong gulch
Jumping from DT to VT makes quelling feel really bad tho
torn kernel
There is a temp HP system that fill up quickly if you're built for it with your ...
ah yes, the proto-gold toughness
nocturne dust
There is a temp HP system that fill up quickly if you're built for it with your ...
Toughness, except instead of incentivizing switching up your gameplay to regen toughness, you are incentivized to play harder
wraith sphinx
I don't think I'll ever try vt, not really interested in warhammer fantasy setting
strong gulch
ah yes, the proto-gold toughness
toughness's predecessor
nocturne dust
Aw, but Fantasy is way cooler than 40k
strong gulch
Toughness, except instead of incentivizing switching up your gameplay to regen t...
ye
torn kernel
i only got into fantasy because of total war ngl
plucky flax
I don't think I'll ever try vt, not really interested in warhammer fantasy setti...
I actually prefer fantasy over sci fi
Its just dt is a better game
nocturne dust
I actually prefer fantasy over sci fi
same
wraith sphinx
I prefer sci fi over fantasy
plucky flax
If they make vt3 with dt mechanics carrying over would be very cool
torn kernel
too bad the End Times happened
strong gulch
Sister of thorns feckin cheats on temp hp tho. So a point against sienna
nocturne dust
I prefer sci fi over fantasy
Wh40k is Science Fantasy
strong gulch
If they make vt3 with dt mechanics carrying over would be very cool
YES
wraith sphinx
Wh40k is Science Fantasy
Yes, it is.
nocturne dust
If they make vt3 with dt mechanics carrying over would be very cool
Granted, but they only carry over the bugs and server problems
strong gulch
I swear they added beast man archer to VT2 and then went, "Let's make this the game." and then we got DT.
plucky flax
Thats tru
torn kernel
honestly the one thing i have against dt is that their weapon sounds are like really fuckin muffled
wraith sphinx
Let me clarify, I particularly love the far future, energy weapons, spaceships bits, stuff like that
wraith sphinx
Fantasy gets a lot of bonus points for curving the usual fantasy trends and actually having guns, but I still prefer 40k
strong gulch
honestly the one thing i have against dt is that their weapon sounds are like re...
it's the tinnitus
fallow dock
Big funny pistol
“HOLY JUSTICE!!!!”
nocturne dust
I like high """medieval""" fantasy
wraith sphinx
one thing that always irked me about dnd and dnd fans is the amount of gunpowder haters
torn kernel
I like high """medieval""" fantasy
vt but AoS when
fallow dock
I like high """medieval""" fantasy
Lowkey as a renaissance enjoyer WHFB is goated
Post-medieval era >>>
nocturne dust
I want an interesting magic system and the medieval aesthetic. Yes, we can have robots golems and electricity magic
marble crater
I thought my PC was dying because the entire screen suddenly turned green, but it was just a cable that got loose
wraith sphinx
sorry was my pet skaven
nocturne dust
one thing that always irked me about dnd and dnd fans is the amount of gunpowder...
I don't hate gunpowder, it's just boring
plucky flax
“HOLY JUSTICE!!!!”
Enemies in this game have bigger heads too so hs would be easier for that 2s cd
Spam it for boss killing xd
wraith sphinx
I don't hate gunpowder, it's just boring
Well I think it rocks 😏
nocturne dust
Gunpowder is fine before the invention of rifling
fallow dock
Facts
marble crater
sorry was my pet skaven
Tell him to stop
torn kernel
hell yeah gimme big fuckin handgonnes
fallow dock
Not that rifling helped at first anyways
wraith sphinx
Also yeah pike and shot era was a big thing, military history didn't go from high medieval ages to modern warfare overnight
strong gulch
Give us sack rat equivalent. I want to excitedly froth at the mouth for shinies but actually just die for nothing.
torn kernel
if you don't have to pour the powder manually are you even using guns correctly
these kids and their newfangled technology
fallow dock
hell yeah gimme big fuckin handgonnes
Nah nah arquebus is where it’s at
Landsknechtmaxxing
wraith sphinx
IIRC guns did not truly cement themselves as be all end all until the beginning of 20th century, especially with the first world war when it was recognized that napoleonic era tactics aren't going to fly anymore (at a horrible human cost, and that was just 1914 alone)
nocturne dust
Also yeah pike and shot era was a big thing, military history didn't go from hig...
To be fair, some countries did catch up real quick
fallow dock
IIRC guns did not truly cement themselves as be all end all until the beginning ...
Napoleonic tactics were not used in WW1 dawg 😭
nocturne dust
Give us sack rat equivalent. I want to excitedly froth at the mouth for shinies ...
Mini bonbon that swallowed the wrong stuff
wraith sphinx
Napoleonic tactics were not used in WW1 dawg 😭
yeah no they weren't my b
nocturne dust
Napoleonic tactics were not used in WW1 dawg 😭
Nonsense, Napoleon infamously favored M1 Brownings
torn kernel
Napoleon famously kept a 1911 on him at all times
fallow dock
Nonsense, Napoleon infamously favored M1 Brownings <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906...
Napoleon “pass me the MG42” Bonaparte
strong gulch
Mini bonbon that swallowed the wrong stuff
OMG yes please. Dog sized.
torn kernel
I'm already drinking whiskey 😠
daydrinking? 
dense wolf
I'm already drinking whiskey 😠
gimme gimme
torn kernel
it's friday but still
strong gulch
I want a bonbon chair now
dense wolf
share pls
wraith sphinx
daydrinking? <:stare:1230153464131354645>
Yes
dense wolf
i only got beer and beer
wraith sphinx
in my defense I do it only like once every several months
nocturne dust
I want a bonbon chair now
Literally a green beanbag chair
torn kernel
OMG yes please. Dog sized.
i just want the funny nurgle frogs in game man 😔
wraith sphinx
just felt like an appropriate day today
fallow dock
Tech priest class when????
strong gulch
Literally a green beanbag chair <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
With a flap to hide my treasures in
dense wolf
hand us the drink
fallow dock
Or should the next class be 3 ratings standing on each other’s shoulders in a trenchcoat
nocturne dust
Tech priest class when????
dense wolf
nocturne dust
wraith sphinx
https://tenor.com/view/happy-early-birthday-now-gimmee-gif-15731324811646516558
this is how you look rn
leaden mulch
for EK between
primary spam and secondary spam
which one do you think it's better on hv40
potent echo
fallow dock
Jean Steelers
potent echo
how do they walk in those
jovial juniper
for EK between
primary spam and secondary spam
which one do you think it's bett...
None
Probs M1 spam
Reduced venting speed might gimp the high peril generation on m2
Alternatively
Warp Syphon
There's plenty of Specialists on Havoc
Play your cards right and you get to either shriek or gaze a lot
upper sun
"As an Arbites player, you’ll arrive on the Mourningstar some time after the events of the Reject prologue"
I knew wed get a new prolog
short oasis
Can anyone recommend Psyker builds for Havoc?
plucky flax
Any pro guy wanna try duo this?
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plucky flax
Can anyone recommend Psyker builds for Havoc?
Build at the start of vid for nice and easy gaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3b2KvHsHvY
potent echo
ever since they changed DD to keep stacks during boss, ive been going 25 stacks
its so good
wraith sphinx
Any pro guy wanna try duo this?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/104691415...
ooh looks scary
but I'm helping a friend level his zealot today 🙂
my man just got the perfect stats relic blade from brunt on first try, very lucky
jovial juniper
Resist
limber tapir
aight
jovial juniper
Quick advice
Every psyker Warp weapon dumps resistance
Except VoidSTRIKE
It dumps Blast Radius
paper pivot
I haven't played in a while, how do you dump stats on a weapon?
cyan meteor
dump stats are the stats you take ~60 on so everything else can be 80 or close to it
just rng
jovial juniper
I haven't played in a while, how do you dump stats on a weapon?
You keep rolling rolling rolling rolling rolling
Until you get the dump stat at n**/**60%
weary crane
marble crater
I curse fatshark for having so many good voice actors for the Arbites, I don't know which personality to start with 
marble crater
Might be female Maul for me, Alt Cunnigham and Sebille from Divinity 2
jovial juniper
David Boyle
David Boylewie
ornate hamlet
I’m ngl leveling Pysker is on par just as bad if not worse then when I did vet over a year ago
upper sun
1-2 MAELSTROM LETS GOOOOO
analog agate
Leveling in this game sucks. But at least you can assail your way to 30 now
summer timber
"As an Arbites player, you’ll arrive on the Mourningstar some time after the eve...
makes me think by separating it as "reject prologue" that maybe we'll see some acsension in status as well perhaps
marble crater
Time to power level each other's Arbites
pearl viper
hey @summer timber where on refinery delta did you say was good for cliffhanger?
fallen pier
yooo
teal needle
upper sun
flak crit chance blazing and nexus still the same tbh
fallen pier
do we have a dedicated melee build? I play Zealot a lot, but Psyker has better Aquila Drip
fiery stratus
assail, scriers gaze, disrupt destiny is pretty much a catch all build for most things melee/firearms
fallen pier
do we have a skill tree I can copy paste from?
tepid python
just go down the right side and grab warp rider
wraith sphinx
^
fallen pier
aight bet
summer timber
hey <@347135221558149120> where on refinery delta did you say was good for cliff...
the final encounter where you have to interrogate the corrupted vials
the arena is shaped like a plus, on the right and left ends (when you enter) on the bottom floor they pile up from a spawn door on the floor above
fallen pier
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ec65923-24ea-43a2-ab3c-a78b2690bc4a/my...
ooo tanks
wraith sphinx
got smite and brainburst versions too if you're feeling evil later
fallen pier
nah m good
pearl viper
the arena is shaped like a plus, on the right and left ends (when you enter) on ...
i tried to and i god deleted by enemies :(
zinc phoenix
my dog will offer lexual healing to heretics
pearl viper
god i wish the penance was five enemies instead of seven
summer timber
i tried to and i god deleted by enemies :(
damn thats brutal
you got swarmed or they just ignored your push
Gloria Clandestine is probably your next best bet in that beginning section
pearl viper
both
summer timber
Just gotta hop you dont get pushed off too
pearl viper
ik ascension riser 31 has ledges early on
summer timber
yah that one too, but there are a lot of specialists that spawn instead of tiny BS enemies and i dont think the horde spawner is until after the ledges at the start
but its def an option if you can lead some enemies over to the ledge
i think next update we're going to be able to choose which missions we can play instead of it being random, so thankfully you wont have to wait on RNG you can just start up a match and try to get it
pearl viper
god i hope
tacit stump
finally the forceblade skin i wanted is back
i hope we get more fgs skins
i tried obscurus time and time again but somehow i stick to deimos
fallen pier
okay let me get this right
brazen compass
Correct
fallen pier
the idea of Scrier's Gaze is, pop it up after spamming Assail to 50%?
then go ham on any melee?
plucky flax
Use it whenever you want
fallen pier
ooo
zenith fiber
i tried obscurus time and time again but somehow i stick to deimos
special spam illisi when
light solstice
Hey I need to ask, am I being a noob for not picking up grimoire?
That shit is corrupting like half my life as a psyker
And you get literally nothing but a little xp that no one need
fallen pier
pretty sure people avoid picking it up
light solstice
Man each time there’s grim you can be sure people take them
I just finished a mission, we had both books
That’s my experience and that’s why I ask lol
glacial vapor
Depends on diff, on higher diffs people tend to ignore them
fallen pier
what blessings does Force Sword want
summer timber
the idea of Scrier's Gaze is, pop it up after spamming Assail to 50%?
someone described it to meas a butcher mode, its less "save you from your peril mismanagement" and more "use this when you wanna do more damage"
fallen pier
ah so just whenever you want to charge in
and doesnt require consuming 50% or anything, thought I needed to -- for the bonuses
summer timber
you dont get SG stacks based on how much peril you quell by activating it too i think, so its technically better to pop it at 0% to spend as much time as possible to get as many stacks as you can
buoyant maple
what blessings does Force Sword want
Uncanny + slaughterer/deflector
summer timber
ah so just whenever you want to charge in
yeah, i use it pretty generously throughout missions since you can usually manage the peril stuff by killing everything, just make sure you dont use warp attack when you hit 100%
prime elk
Hey I need to ask, am I being a noob for not picking up grimoire?
no, other way around. it's ettiquette to ask before picking up a grim, because grims give dogshit terrible rewards, while being very annoying and can absolutely cause the team to lose
summer timber
i use warp unbound with SG tho cuz sometimes assail spam is really helpful
summer timber
no, other way around. it's ettiquette to ask before picking up a grim, because g...
i only ever see ppl wanting grims for their contracts or to rush lvl 30
but even then yeah sometimes theyre more trouble than theyre worth
prime elk
i just ignore contracts at this point tbh
but even when i gave a shit, it's not worth 16 grims or whatever stupid fucking amount they want you to do
i always rerolled it
summer timber
for new players they can be good for getting better curios, but yeah i dont think ive ever paid attention to my contracts
tacit stump
chrome geode
What’s everyone’s favorite class and why is it psyker highkey
psyker is just the best 😞
light solstice
no, other way around. it's ettiquette to ask before picking up a grim, because g...
I have 400h into the game and I’ve never seen anyone asking before picking a grim😅 I’m the one that ask « but why?? », sometimes they drop it but not always.
wraith sphinx
awesome bug
thorn cedar
wraith sphinx
glacial vapor
On the brightside, you can get a head start on the rest of the heretics
wraith sphinx
very true
jovial juniper
Strike Team, would you mind telling me what you are doing on the other side of that warp barrier
wraith sphinx
Infiltration tactics, sir
prime elk
I have 400h into the game and I’ve never seen anyone asking before picking a gri...
yeah people typically don't ask, and then i have to ask them to drop it
it usually works out
because the guy who picked it up usually dies anyway
funny how these problems have a way of solving themselves
but usually after the team has lost a quarter of their health to grim corruption
glacial vapor
A quarter? I spend most of the match on my last wound when someones picked up a grim lol
On psyker obviously
prime elk
yeah grims can really fuck a team over, esp one that's already struggling
wraith sphinx
A quarter? I spend most of the match on my last wound when someones picked up a ...
I run two corruption resistance perks on my psyker specifically to avert that lol
tacit stump
i would like some shanges by the blitzes and skill positioning and normal force sword special shanges
prime elk
because some selfish, unaware doofus decided to read for the first time in his fucking life
prime elk
i would like some shanges by the blitzes and skill positioning and normal force ...
get in line, there's other shit that need to be reworked first w
tacit stump
for example?
prime elk
literally all of zealot, vet, and their respective weapons
wraith sphinx
new vet weapon was promised last year too, wasn't it
tacit stump
i would like some new staffs to be honest
wraith sphinx
don't we all
tacit stump
beam staff or fireball
prime elk
FS still on the deadline
Too busy with our-bites
fallen pier
What curious do pyskers want
proper osprey
What curious do pyskers want
2 toughness 1 stamina
verbal thistle
Psyker has no need for stamina and wounds, so it's up to preference/mix of HP and toughness