psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

well don't

what build could possibly need that aura

[pulsar hazel]

I guess my Voidstrike no ability build that just uses warp siphon for 24% damage buff

[nocturne dust]

Well, for one

[pulsar hazel]

And an m2 EK build I never use

[nocturne dust]

take Disrupt Destiny

[pulsar hazel]

I know :-(

[nocturne dust]

For two, EK doesn't need or want the left aura

EK abuses perfect timing instead

[pulsar hazel]

Isn't that crit dodge I forgor

[nocturne dust]

+warp damage on crit

[pulsar hazel]

Oh yeah my goat

[nocturne dust]

free 15% damage

[pulsar hazel]

Yuurp

Idk it'd probably slightly help my Inferno build. Which runs 10% CDR anyway

[nocturne dust]

Inferno would prefer crit if it didn't cost an extra point

[pulsar hazel]

Ya ik

[nocturne dust]

curse you Fatshark

[pulsar hazel]

Anyway night night my little chuddy

Ty for da talk

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-gif-23240404

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1298432898004811786/Rest_in_Peas.gif

[vernal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-core-beloved-locket-nonagon-gif-26043045

[jovial juniper]

😭

[verbal thistle]

this is so sad

[verbal thistle]

forgot to add context

50min havoc 40 duo

[ornate hamlet]

Does anybody else have the an issue with being entirely unable to unequip weapons?

Because I've been stuck using the greatsword and inferno staff for like a month now and it looks like my character is bugged

Like I can swap load outs and use different magicks but I literally can't use any other weapons and they just show back up if I discard them

[strong gulch]

That's an old bug that keeps resurfacing, but I thought they fixed it (again).

Ask in game help if there are any work arounds. Submit a ticket on the forum too.

[young cliff]

how do folks feel about the change on Perfectionism? in some assail build it feels quite good but idk how comparable is the reliability of lingerin influence

[north hatch]

Are high voltage and skull crusher still the best shock maul blessings

[jovial juniper]

Can always swap HV for Hammerblow

[weary idol]

in practice it's a very situational damage boost that you super do not need because 15 stacks of DD Is already absurd

[young cliff]

in many fights in havoc i manage to hold 22 with ease on averange

[nocturne dust]

The reliability is a lot better.

The extra stacks don't change your BPs a ton but do expire a lot, so it's very dependent on whether you can hunt the blue guy or not.

[jovial juniper]

Don't listen to them

They are trying to hold back your potential

[nocturne dust]

[jovial juniper]

We both know you want that 25 stacks

It will be worth it

All the hassle

The elevators

The checkpoints

The periods without targets

The good teammates

Your effectiveness at killing

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/pills-drugs-medicine-blue-pill-red-pill-gif-16188454057804619228

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/black-butler-kuroshitsuji-live-action-black-butler-live-action-sebastian-gif-5477474983527386597

[young cliff]

SO with assail that comes kinda natural you can get immense power, maybe for boss killing, but is a power that you dont "need"

ergo with builds that doesnt run much focus on assail is far better to run lingering

is that correct?

[young cliff]

honestly? I dont fear it, im killing blue stuff so consistently that in far too many games i can go from 0 to 22 in a snap, specially when the team is focusing boss instead of killing everything else that is what really is killing them

[nocturne dust]

Not really immense power, just a bit more power more like

You won't be killing bosses with it

[young cliff]

wonder how much, dont recall a good way to test the damage ramp up with 15 to 25 stacks

but if that's the case, will lean more my builds to have lingering

ty for your imput

[dry gull]

Switching things up after getting used to assail. Smite feels a little bit weak in comparison 🤔

[young cliff]

Smite is strong it its build but is boring as seeing paint dry

[jovial juniper]

Well you go from one shotting trash enemies to killing x amount of them in two seconds

We still don't know the amount of enemies smite can hit at once huh

[nocturne dust]

There's no cap

We've been over this

[jovial juniper]

So it just goes

2 to 2 to 2 to 2 to 2 to 2.....

Unless you take lighting storm

Then it goes 3 to 3 to 3.....

Mitosis

[nocturne dust]

as long as they're in jump range and range of you, yes

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

Ah yes
Fair and balanced

[buoyant mantle]

honestly brain burst spreading perk in mortis should be a node in normal mode
albeit a slightly weaker version

[nocturne dust]

wouldn't be that strong as-is

[strong gulch]

I was today years old when I found out that illisi heavies cannot pop someone out of BonBon.

Please buff illisi.

[sonic flower]

Whats the go to Psyker dome build?

[buoyant mantle]

man it'd be so god damn strong as it is against a wall of gunners

[strong gulch]

inferno build in pins

swap shriek for bubble nodes

[nocturne dust]

Not really, because its spread range is tiny

If the gunners are that tightly packed, you can just insta-gib them with trauma/inferno/shriek/fgs special

so like, psyker has a lot of options

[buoyant mantle]

30 gunners that are far away from you and behind a cover like to have a word

[nocturne dust]

BB with 10 spread will be slower

Just run up and bop em

or get them to reposition, then bop em

[strong gulch]

not @marble crater

[sturdy reef]

instructions unclear, removing QQ swap for staves

[marble crater]

I have my own imposter

[plucky flax]

It was me.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-me-barry-gif-23237917

[wispy bay]

Ah the casual jerking each other off in Psyker chat.

[stone steeple]

Does quietude grant toughness from peril that's quelled by skills like crack of bone?

[strong gulch]

yes

[stone steeple]

sicko

[errant thorn]

2025

[stone steeple]

What about the peril quelled from killing enemies in scriers gaze?

[wraith sphinx]

Kills in scriers don't quell, just briefly pause peril buildup

And it's overally a very negligible effect compared to by crack of bone and tranqulity through slaughter (if ur gun psykering)

[stone steeple]

what the hell is reducing my peril when i'm in scriers then

[wraith sphinx]

You are using by crack of bone yes?

[stone steeple]

i'm silly

ignore me

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

[wispy bay]

Here, this is when they talk of KF with you.

[wraith sphinx]

Guh who

[wispy bay]

Just in case you say that I'm belittling you again..

[upper sun]

pls accept im reformed

[plucky flax]

Nein

[minor trout]

It is just one message and I didn't even see it I was doing smth else

[wispy bay]

Well, I'm sorry, I can't know if what you read and what you don't through the screen. I saw people replied to you, that's all.

[minor trout]

It is not people it is just void lmao

That's not people telling me for days

[nocturne dust]

I'll tell you for days

[marble crater]

BB bad, KF good

[rigid sky]

Meanwhile, I'm climbing Havoc with EP BB lmao

[nocturne dust]

bro bragging

[minor trout]

Remind me everyday that KF is good

[nocturne dust]

KF is good

[minor trout]

Amazing

Thanks

[marble crater]

KF good

One shotting two enemies with Elektro staff and KF is fun

[wraith sphinx]

First kf was the only good one tbh

[rigid sky]

Loadsa money

[wraith sphinx]

DOSH lad

[plucky flax]

Bubble knight supremacy.

[wraith sphinx]

Again that unsanctionednoobker

[plucky flax]

Tru I was the other psyker. He carried my ass.

[cosmic sigil]

What build did you use?

[plucky flax]

Melee bubble knight

[cosmic sigil]

Dd?

[plucky flax]

Yessir

[plucky flax]

Bubble knight
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ebacfec-9eb8-4f84-b139-4e3cca58dcfb/bubble-knight-melee-havoc-40

[deft stump]

Stop trying to gaslight me.

[plucky flax]

Pls no flame.

[deft stump]

My flamer is always full. Always forgets it exists.

[nocturne dust]

You're the one using perilous combustion

[cosmic sigil]

More like bubble might

[warm zephyr]

Just checking the game out and looking at psykers, am I reading right that this pin kind of shoots for some of the core strong builds?

Is there a better place to be looking for that info? I’m hoping to find a high level explanation of the playstyle of a few strong builds to see what might be a good fit.

[marble crater]

All those builds will work in high level and are good, further down in the pins is also the psyker guide with some more builds, some parts of the guide are outdated, but I think they are marked as such

[warm zephyr]

Thanks! BB also seems super cool/iconic, but am I reading right from kind of skimming around that it doesn’t really play into any strong meta builds at this point?

[marble crater]

The main reason people pick BB is for add on node Kinetic Flayer, because it's free damage without switching to BB, so it plays into meta builds, but not like would think or want

[rotund dagger]

I've played both and I think i can confirm that the 2st game was good

[warm zephyr]

Right, so all the yt videos showing psyker popping heads and talking about it like a core of the class are off?

[marble crater]

How old are the videos?

[warm zephyr]

Wasn’t keeping too close an eye

[marble crater]

BB is good at killing specials and far away enemies, but it's slow and falls off in doing even that in the higher levels of the endgame havoc mode, because enemies have more health

[wraith sphinx]

I hated it, overly bloated mtx hell

[marble crater]

So BB is good to round out your build or for pathing, but not so much to actually use

If I use it 10 times in a mission then that's a lot of times

[warm zephyr]

Gotcha. I typically like crowd control, support, utility type stuff, while popping problem enemies’ heads also sounded like fun

That sound more or less like any of the stronger meta builds?

Have a couple buddies who tend to play ogryn and zealot

If that makes any specific builds more appealing to support what they’d be up to

[plucky flax]

If you're not playing havoc synergy doesn't matter tbh.

Anything would do fine and get you the W.

Just play what's fun.

[marble crater]

Half of what psyker does is crowd control and support/utility while still doing damage at the same time, even the meta builds

[deft stump]

To be fair, if you have a fixed havoc group, playing with said team comp might help with practice.

[wraith sphinx]

😈

[wispy bay]

Some of the meta builds are not that good to speed run low difficulty.

[wraith sphinx]

today's the day (again)

[plucky flax]

Imagine waiting for everyone to get on in 2025 to play games.

[wispy bay]

Psyker is somewhat dependent on enemy density.

[warm zephyr]

Yeah they do play havoc, so I’d like to at least be thinking about and trying out builds that I can expect to work there

[wispy bay]

In havoc, having meta build is like 1/3 of the success.

[deft stump]

Hi. I still wait for ppl. You should know. I just poke around to see who is up though.

[plucky flax]

I use the thing called party finder in game.

It's cool.

Team might be good might be sus.

[marble crater]

Yeah you should learn the class in general first, before you jump into havoc. Or you will have a bad time

[deft stump]

Cos you don't need a carry.

I get flamed in mandarin.

[plucky flax]

Tru I only play with some Unsanctioned guy he's my guardian angel.

[wispy bay]

Don't you speak it over there??

[marble crater]

That's your own fault for being in voice chat to allow yourself to get flamed

[deft stump]

He's you, stop gaslighting me reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[plucky flax]

Voice activation.

[deft stump]

Yes, is why I know they are flaming me.

[plucky flax]

I wish there's a ping mute in game too.

I hate guys pinging "GO HERE" for everything like he's the freaking commander.

[deft stump]

No, mine is off. They use it though.

[warm zephyr]

Oh yeah I’m not planning to drill into havoc asap, just want to understand some builds that’d work well there so I can be feeling them out and don’t end up with a build I have fun with that hits a brick wall when I get to higher difficulty

[weary crane]

full auto rumbler

[warm zephyr]

But I’ll keep poking at what’s in those linked ones and mess around

[plucky flax]

Happened last night. 3 other guys played like turtles and flamed me everytime I was out of their coherency so I snapped back and oddly enough the guy stopped whining.

[wraith sphinx]

😔

[marble crater]

Unless you are lvl 30 none of this really matters anyway, because leveling is a lot different than max level builds, low stat staves suck

[marble crater]

Person with ADHD vs 3 normal people

UnsanctionedPsyker would never do that

[deft stump]

Chaos as point means GASGASGAS.

[plucky flax]

A havoc round is already slow enough.

I don't want to die of old age making it 50 mins +

[marble crater]

Yeah, but if you are the only one that's constantly ahead you are going to fast and should slow down I guess, even if you know that pushing is the better option

[plucky flax]

Nah they need to move faster.

[marsh badger]

What is the worst modifier and why is it pox gas?

[upper sun]

its hounds by far

[marsh badger]

for assail enthusiasts thats the best one

[marble crater]

The worst modifier is incompetent teammates

[tired estuary]

the worst modifier is ogryns that bring rumbler and rp in chat

[wraith sphinx]

did not expect I would get top damage

guys brain burst gunker is OP, trust

[marble crater]

No

[brazen compass]

The worst RPers are the ones that play like accurate Ogryns

[plucky flax]

Cringe oggy moment

[wraith sphinx]

rping is awesome though

[dense peak]

Psykers, remember to headpat your local ogryn.

[strong gulch]

hi

[prime elk]

what are you doing big man, squeeze down, pop it like a zit

[plucky flax]

I got the immortal martyrdom trial build

Xd

[marble crater]

Hi

[obtuse swan]

brain burst is really good and easy to use, esp if u get the node that speeds it up and lowers cost after using ur combat ability like you just ult then click on enemies and pop them, u can also peek out of cover click then go back in and still get the kill U just gotta get used to using it Its infinite ammo you can use it lots and lots of times if you try

they should add the mortis trials brainburst buffs to the psyker nodes lol would be fun outside of it

[torn kernel]

no perilous combustion?

you really only need to kill like 3

[marble crater]

@upper sun damn, look what they did to your map

[strong gulch]

I haven't played it since the changes.

What even

[autumn lark]

Showers the loooooongg way

[marble crater]

There were changes?

[strong gulch]

Me: Oh is that a painting. Neat.
zooms in "OBEY"
Me: Oh

[marble crater]

Just Imperium things

[upper sun]

why is your game so BRIGHHT?

[stark crown]

Everytime I see those new showers this clip gets beamed into my mind

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kn9Yd5OOX9pBZLcxW?invite=cr-MSxyUmksMTA3NDAxNTcz

Everytime

[marble crater]

I found this on reddit

[upper sun]

holy shit one of these people had a steam name one letter off from a friend of mine

i was gonna dm someone a lot of slurs for playing DT without me

[marble crater]

[young cliff]

does the Psyker Taxe enjoyers think the weapon can perform without Gaze or it is a necesary tool?

[strong gulch]

The people to ask. #psyker-class message

[young cliff]

just want to leave the question there, so not to bother the folks

[verbal thistle]

No it's not needed since it's technically not a direct damage increase, but the crit chance loss does make a difference

I don't think breakpoints change for Bm

[strong gulch]

Ainz to the rescue.

[verbal thistle]

But there isn't much point going non gaze with melee unless you are shrieking with a staff

Well

There is bubble Knight too

[buoyant maple]

Wait they changed consignment yard’s showers?

[strong gulch]

Yeah recent patch changed the map. IDK all of the ways tho.

[buoyant maple]

Necessary yes

[strong gulch]

I just remember reading by medicea

[buoyant maple]

Scrier’s gaze is a lot of extra damage

Tac axe is a highly crit dependent weapon

U may not need SG to activate bruiser breakpoints

But it’s required to make it shine vs ragers

Which is what it’s best against

[autumn lark]

To be fair scrier buffs every psyker weapon

[verbal thistle]

Exactly, it technically doesn't change breakpoints for BM but it's a loss of alot of dps

[young cliff]

ok, will give some builds an adjustment with that in mind, thatks folks Path and Ainz

[stark crown]

Yes and there’s a LOT more room

[young cliff]

the choke points are gone, so that makes moving on that zone easier

[prime elk]

What a waste of dev time

[strong gulch]

terrifying but I'm also hungry

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/y3ongi-watermelon-gif-21033179

[young cliff]

to think it's probably a reason why we will have to wait for 2040 for the veteran rework

[strong gulch]

Actual footage of me.

[young cliff]

instead of 2030

[weary crane]

@plucky flax We triggered 2 dh but still won, i was grenadier

[plucky flax]

[stark crown]

Hot take, I think it added a good chunk of life to that section of the map cause now there’s no longer “one fuck up and piss the DH off” locations

[prime elk]

Oh did they change the entrance to the showers?

Or just the showers itself?

[stark crown]

Yes

[jovial juniper]

It also broke the sound gate there

[stark crown]

There’s 2 cat walk entrances

[prime elk]

Well that's good I guess

[jovial juniper]

No more big hole in the wall

[prime elk]

The DH spawn location there was pretty aids

[jovial juniper]

Showers aren't lit anymore, that place is dark af

[stark crown]

Entrance and showers as well the exit area

A lot more open

[marble crater]

Should just remove the showers, I don't think rejects use them anyway

[worn heron]

Noob

[young cliff]

i hate that we have no lanterns, WHEN IS OBESEFISH GONNA MAKE SERVO FRIEND PART OF THE BASE GAME?!

[stark crown]

De Kommer! Hjælp os!

Sie Kommt! Hilf uns!

[worn heron]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-and-blackpowder-danish-gif-4671833751712398379

[upper sun]

2 ammo crates
1 ogryn with box

i had 30 fps for the whole event

[marble crater]

More than enough

[deft stump]

Guy never played 20 FPS avg Havoc 40.

[stark crown]

The lagging mauler pack:

[strong gulch]

Wow... ok.

So the slop shop doesn't give you smaller aquila packages if you clicked through on a bundle. It's the bundle price or higher. Maybe it's because I have 0?

[autumn lark]

cause thats the exact price for a premium cosmetic set

[strong gulch]

But there should be the smaller options tho.

[autumn lark]

just use the buy aquillas option in the shop hud

[strong gulch]

no

[late sapphire]

is this the gimmick where they give you 2900 aquilas but you need 3000 for a full set

[marble crater]

Iirc, if you go to buy them while looking at a skin, the packs start where it gives you enough to buy whatever you were looking at

If you want all options you need to just buy aquilas

[late sapphire]

idk how hard can it be to make a legit store

just set a conversion rate and let me buy any number i want

[marble crater]

It's not hard, it's this way on purpose to make you spend more money

[late sapphire]

yh no shit

[marble crater]

[shell delta]

Alright so I've just got my level 3 psyker. I gotta ask, is there a YouTube guide I can skim over or something to learn how to effectively use Psyker?

[late sapphire]

i guess it's hard to not be a dickhead to your userbase if the userbase is willing to eat up the literal shit you present em with

[shell delta]

Psyker seems very...squishy and situational at the moment. Having to constantly quell the warp terror after popping two specialist enemies heads.

[late sapphire]

psyker is weak at low levels

and wrt brain burst keep in mind it only kills you if you start it at ~100%

you can quell 1 tick to 95% then bb again

[ornate hamlet]

did they nerf quell speed bc when i played a few months back it didnt seem to gain so fast and now it seems alot faster

[jovial juniper]

You'll be squishy
Glass Cannon

[marble crater]

Leveling psyker sucks, also in a few levels you can pick up Assail and use that for leveling, it's much better than what you have now

[buoyant maple]

Most expensive for full set so far has been 2900

Most are 2400

[late sapphire]

So not that scummy

[shell delta]

I will say though, I like my psyker looking like a crazy mad scientist cultist with the german accent voice lol

Named him Ludwig on top of that lol

[marble crater]

[weak sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/moonlight-ludwig-bloodborne-gif-21829853

[late sapphire]

anyways, in short, psyker scales really well with levels, at low difficulties assail just solves everything later on you'll be blasting through enemies like they're nothing

but you dont get vets pee shout or the zealots immortality or the ogryns general hugeness so you are squishy through and through

[plucky flax]

Don't let reaper in havoc see you.

[late sapphire]

reaper can feel free to see my bubble

[marble crater]

All this talk about aquilas makes me want to buy the enforcer set instead of waiting months for another good set

[weak sundial]

He and his 3 buddys will feel free to melt your bubble

[late sapphire]

his 3 buddies are immaterial due to esoteric warp mechanics

and they will explode in 0.1s anyways

[potent echo]

kind of late but I think ally skeleton tech from VT2 necromancer class probably is instrumental in making the new arbiter class in DT

[strong gulch]

No.

It's at least the amount that you need.

[strong gulch]

I've never had that. Maybe because I've had an item in the bundle or a few aquilas already??

[weak sundial]

The only genuine issue i have with the store is i have to wait for what i want to come around

[plucky flax]

Reaper is way too scary in havoc.

[marble crater]

I wouldn't know, I just know that it wouldn't show me bundles that won't give me enough aquilas to purchase what I was looking at, which makes sense. If I went to buy aquilas directly I saw everything

[weak sundial]

Once they lock on, its kinda over

Out in the open with a horde on u, RIP

[plucky flax]

Or sneaky reaper shooting you from the back.

No time to react as psyker. Xd

[marble crater]

Easy, don't turn your back to the reaper

[sinful olive]

Main reason I prefer trauma. Gunner firing lines just fuck you up so hard in 40 and dealing with that with purgatus feels like shit

[weak sundial]

Then it keeps shooting while ur down, so u either die or a bot revives you and you DIE

[plucky flax]

But trauma is horrible against red modifier since they become cc immune.

[strong gulch]

Just have EE and never know.

[sinful olive]

This is true, which is why I run flame trauma so the building stacks eventually kill them. Definitely not as good as purgatus for that particular case though.

[marble crater]

But they are CC immune against other weapons too

[sinful olive]

Yeah, but purg will cook em faster at least

[marble crater]

No

[plucky flax]

Yeah burga once they get to 50% hp would have high stack and kill them faster than additional blasts from trauma.

[nocturne dust]

Flame trauma has a max of 6 stacks

It takes 2 crits to reach that max

[sinful olive]

That I didn't know, interesting

Wonder why

[nocturne dust]

Because all soulblaze application has caps

Inferno is 15/16, Vent and PC is 31, Melee is.... 12 iirc?

[marble crater]

Melee is garbage

[nocturne dust]

True

[strong gulch]

Ye 12

[sinful olive]

I knew there were caps, didn't know they were seemingly arbitrarily set to different caps based on source

[marble crater]

[sinful olive]

Very helpful to know though, thanks

[nocturne dust]

Wait until you learn that Inferno can reach 16 stacks by critting on the hit on 14 stacks but decays and only refreshes 15 stacks

10/10 design Fatshark

[sinful olive]

The more I learn about under the hood mechanics the less I realize I know

[nocturne dust]

The more I learn about under the hood mechanics, the less I want to know

[sinful olive]

[marble crater]

@strong gulch I guess this is the innocent version of myself

[nocturne dust]

No, that's Innocent Sparks. Sparks is the real you. Wake up, sibling.

[jovial juniper]

Lawful Neutral
True Neutral
Chaotic Neutral

[plucky flax]

Unsanctioned Sparks.

[brazen compass]

Man that Unsanctioned guy sure is popular around here

If you see him tell him I say hello

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/neutral-if-i-dont-survive-tell-my-wife-hello-gif-13790639

[hearty wolf]

Ngl it's a problem in todays day and age moreso

I remember in like FFVIII/FFX days

no one knew how damage worked

people didn't care about multipliers

now most games become multiplicative multiplier ooga booga glass cannon builds

[minor trout]

Skull mask

[minor trout]

Guilty sparks?

All 343 of them?

[marble crater]

Just one of them

I'm not that guilty

[strong gulch]

mafs

no thanks

[nocturne dust]

It's also a product of modern game design since defense is rarely as active or enjoyable as offense. Best devs can do is make you reactive with dodging and parrying, or press button for heal. Sad, honestly.

And when dodging and parrying is in the game and reliably just negates damage entirely, why even bother with defense at all

Something something dark souls was a mistake something something back in my day 👴

[hearty wolf]

Making good game hard but enjoyable is tricky

I think Killing Floor 2 did a decent job with it

Clair Obscur also suffers from that parry problem - like you can run defensive set ups but yeah

offense go brr

I don't really like Dark Souls tbh

[nocturne dust]

Neither do I

[narrow herald]

I have a counter argument

ck3 😈

[nocturne dust]

Crusader Kings 3 has no dodging or parrying

[narrow herald]

Yeah it's just spreadsheets

[strong gulch]

I like dark souls. I suck at parry tho.

[narrow herald]

Go to work bad spreadsheets, go home good spreadsheets 😈

[marble crater]

You can dodge the enemy army

[strong gulch]

Fine in the 1st one then I gave up.

[nocturne dust]

That doesn't negate the damage they'll do to your holds

so 0/10

not a true dodge

[marble crater]

If the AI has a seizure and can't decide though

[nocturne dust]

Generally, the other issue is that you always need damage but you either need more defense to not die, or don't need it at all.

[zinc phoenix]

No way there’s actually a ton of dodging in CK3. For example just the other day my character had to dodge a whole bushel of sexual predators with every STD under the sun on the way to his wife’s bedroom. And parrying? Well, I don’t need to tell you what you’ll be parrying if you play as a woman because I’m pretty sure you can work it out! Boy will your parrying finger get tired!

[young cliff]

why is psychic leeching not considered good? not even on assail is worth?

[nocturne dust]

no mention of incest, 0/10, not real CK

[plucky flax]

What is it?

[nocturne dust]

EP middle node

20% toughness for you and allies on EP blitz use

[plucky flax]

Rather get 15 toughness

[young cliff]

that bad? if that's the case really should just remove any attempt of EP build

[nocturne dust]

1. It's attached to Empowered Psionics
2. It's far more conditional than just kill something (soulstealer), hit something a lot (mettle), or press a button (quietude)
3. Its condition is inconsistent. You can't get guaranteed EP stacks from specialists or bosses, and you are gambling on chance for defense, which is not great.

Assail with soulstealer is going to eat a horde and generate more toughness

[fiery stratus]

cata qp be like

[ornate hamlet]

So I’ve played the shit out of zealot and am looking to start… a psyker.

I tend to favour melee the most. Even as a psyker I want to melee, preferably with the force swords.

For ranged I prefer staves over guns. I embrace the full space wizard thing.

Any advice on a build would be great!! I’m pretty new and only have dabbled a bit.

[upper sun]

second pinned post has most meta builds

if you want recommendations for your playstyle you can ask that as well

[young cliff]

Damn, EP really is quite underwelming, not support style good enough, not good to make focusing on BB worth and spawned Smite spam

[patent jacinth]

Ball

[prime elk]

funny for assail memes tho

[young cliff]

you know what would be REALLY funny? that assail's alt fire was a small homing grenade

[prime elk]

i don't think assail needs any further buffs

[young cliff]

feel that the keystone needs to completely change the gameplay of the blitzes to be something cool

[prime elk]

oh i see what you mean

[jovial juniper]

Ok with the DD buff fix

Can confirm

I'm goated on perfectionism

[prime elk]

does the buff bar actually work now?

[young cliff]

been using a mod since a while because of that dumb bug

[zinc phoenix]

Empower should be hard locked to holding one charge but should cause the blitz alt attack to be super cool and powerful

[north hatch]

Does the great force swords attack count as a warp attack for things like soul stealer and perfect timing

[verbal thistle]

Only the special attack

Not normal attacks

[north hatch]

Kk yeah I was wondering about the special

Ty

[jovial quail]

Haven't played in a hot hot minute, is there an arguable best staff for higher tier difficulties? And if so best perk combo?

Inferno was pretty much all I used exclusively back in the day but with the customization and such there might be some possible really solid picks now with buffs as well

[strong gulch]

See pins for meta auric staff builds.

In havoc it's VB (voidblast/ trauma) or inferno (purg) with bubble.

[jovial quail]

gotcha gotcha thanks a bunch! will do some reading there too

[ornate hamlet]

Will this work well with the force great sword?

[patent jacinth]

You'll be slow but it will work fine

knife is here to offset staff mobility

Lets me race around like a crackhead to line up shots

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/melee-psyker-27?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[dry gull]

Do you not find the points under assail to be worthwhile?

I tried them out at first, but the cooldown one especially seems a little superfluous especially.

Kinda feels like assail doesn't need it ig

[jovial juniper]

Warp Splitting is better than Ethereal Shards

[dry gull]

Yeah. WS definitely seems way more worthwhile as a point.

[nocturne dust]

Well, technically WS is 2 if you aren't taking lightning speed anyway

[dry gull]

Feels so good coming from a Vet player. Fuck aiming

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/one-of-my-people-love-is-war-kaguya-sama-love-is-war-chika-fujiwara-fujiwara-gif-24940032

Indeed, aiming bad

[dry gull]

LS is sick. I also like the electricity on H melee under smite. Playing around with it on a second build rn

Not sure how much it actually does tho

[nocturne dust]

Charged Strike does effectively nothing on most weapons

it only does something on bad weapons like Illisi and Dclaw that have a lot of trash horde cleave but don't kill anything with that cleave

[nocturne dust]

and that's really only if you try to use Illisi without charging it

Hey, I qualified

You cannot tell me that you use uncharged Illisi heavies

well, you also need an appropriate build to get charged Illisi to kill stuff

[patent jacinth]

They are good, but knife isn’t great for BCoB value

[dry gull]

Figured. It kinda felt that way but I was hoping otherwise.

[dry gull]

Bcob?

Bacon on cob?

[patent jacinth]

By crack of bone

Knife doesn’t consistently kill trash well enough

So I just vent off scriers while playing that build

[dry gull]

Oooooh. Okay makes sense.

I love Bacon on Cob with my force Great sword

[plucky flax]

No warp rider?

[rustic sorrel]

hey psyker gang, whats a good gun to use with the perk that gives a 10% chance to brain rupture?

like, fast fire rate, lots of ammo

[nocturne dust]

Recon lasgun

The fastest firing one, which happens to be the meta one anyway

Combine it with Perilous Combustion since KF works on DoTs

[rustic sorrel]

what ability?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you can take what you want. Shriek for more DoT, Scriers to focus on the gun, bubble for safety

My personal choice would ordinarily be Scriers for the gun, but if you're taking Perilous and BB anyway, then you can route through Wildfire/Psykinetics and I would take vent

[rustic sorrel]

ur godlike thank u

[nocturne dust]

[rustic sorrel]

what about melee with that?

anything cracked on psyker?

right now as i level im running bubble and brain rupture

[nocturne dust]

Common melee choices are dueling sword, knife, Force great sword, and force sword (deimos for single target, obscurus for a bit more horde clear)

Knife is normally picked for mobility for staves

With your specific setup, FGS is probably the best choice. It's good at basically everything.

except speed, but you can swap to recon to run around

[glass hare]

is the skill tree for the havoc inferno staff build in the psyker athenium the one to use or is there a more recent version?

[prime elk]

check pins

[glass hare]

ah ty

[plucky flax]

For havoc go bubble instead of creeping flames unless you're pro

[nocturne dust]

The build in pins is for Auric. For Havoc, you would swap in bubble and, depending on your expertise, might go a bit safer in talent choice.

[plucky flax]

Right at the start this is a safe and strong havoc burga build
https://youtu.be/S3b2KvHsHvY

[glass hare]

duly noted

[glass hare]

is the deimos better than knife or is that just personal preference

[plucky flax]

Preference you can play knife if you want. I use it for deflector and strong single target damage. Let me do goofy clutches sometimes. Might be able to do it too with knife sliding but risk of getting shot
https://youtu.be/yZGbstLGzbk

I play knife with surge staff for better positioning

[glass hare]

ill try both once i get a good deimos

[ripe obsidian]

I got outdamaged by an LMB bully club Ogryn. I am ashamed.

[plucky flax]

If youre not as aggressive as them they can do more damage

[ripe obsidian]

I was trying to be aggressive. Alas.

They beat me by 100k damage in one game, I beat them by 90k in the next. Still very close.

[plucky flax]

Ogryn is built different now anyway. I 9/10 times do more damage than psyker playing mk3b light spam.

[blissful solar]

ogryn op pls nerf

or buff zealot

I like that one

[plucky flax]

Its hilarious just smashing left click and send things flying

[ripe obsidian]

I think his build was more aggressive than yours. Thunderous/Skullcrusher instead of Confident Strike

Also taunt instead of charge. I guess for the +25% damage or whatever that bonus is

[plucky flax]

Ye I find charge is safer and allows better positioning

Thunderous doesn't help the ogryn damage that much its more for the team

If he uses rumbler tho that can do a lot of horde damage

[ripe obsidian]

He did have the rumbler

[plucky flax]

My build is 95% melee

I dislike playing with rumbler ogryn or using it myself. If I see a rumbler ogryn especially with lucky bullet keystone that's an auto decline

Use all ammo on horde steal all ammo rip vet

Not all but I've played with enough of those rumbler ogryn to know I'll have a bad time that round. Also playing ogryn with double the range damage to melee is sus

(Me ranting about people playing ogryn and not want to melee dont mind me)

[ripe obsidian]

Rant away. I don't play Ogryn in Havoc because I am bad at the game. I can only really do H40 with Psyker and book Zealot

[nocturne dust]

Real ogryns use Feel No Pain

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn is probably easier than Psyker now

Real hard to beat a guy that can take a crusher donk to the head and eat hordes and bosses with equal ease

[plucky flax]

Its weird I haven't rolled silo cluster

[summer prairie]

it was pulled

[plucky flax]

I want to play that map

[summer prairie]

because rituals dont work

[plucky flax]

Rip

That explains it

[ripe obsidian]

I take way too much chip damage

[nocturne dust]

use confident strike, turn them into chips of toughness

[ripe obsidian]

I already do. I am just bad

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

I gave some rank <30 guys a few chances yesterday but they played like ass so I dipped and remake party

There are guys worse than you chin up champ

[glass hare]

the build is good

[fallow token]

i "love" purple

[nocturne dust]

das a lotta losses

you aight?

[fallow token]

oh those

[plucky flax]

It's normal if you pug.

[fallow token]

it's normal

and they were trolling moving 1 corner to another while being chased

gotta catch up with them

[nocturne dust]

Which is why I don't play Havoc that much

[plucky flax]

Tru

[nocturne dust]

Once a week then back to the fun times

[plucky flax]

Not enough spawns in maelstrom now.

[nocturne dust]

You went too deep 😔

[wraith sphinx]

Sorry I showed them funny tiktoks and they refused to come out

[nocturne dust]

I'm still fine playing normal damnation

[wraith sphinx]

Same

Aurics is my usual go to, std damn when I'm not feeling it for whatever reaso

[nocturne dust]

Nothing wrong with a lot of peace and quiet. Listen to the sounds of natural heretic death. Embrace the serenity of your allies not falling over every twenty seconds

[wraith sphinx]

I'm also playing with some of my casual friends now and I'm trying to get them to get out of malice

[nocturne dust]

I don't ever really choose to play standard dam, but I still enjoy it when I get pulled into it

[wraith sphinx]

A lot of the missions have well made background soundscapes, which are normally impossible to hear from all the combat

[wraith sphinx]

Oh so you were jesting

Curse you

[nocturne dust]

No

I do enjoy it

[wraith sphinx]

Good

[plucky flax]

Double ammo aura its so over

[nocturne dust]

I would probably play it a bit if I had more time to play Darktide, but as is I can't fit enough games, and I don't want to get too rusty

[nocturne dust]

Pro strats?

[wraith sphinx]

I don't mind getting rusty

I just play cos I love darktide

Getting a little fed up with certain EU pubs from a certain country tho so I've been playing other games

[plucky flax]

Ruski?

[wraith sphinx]

Yup

Get skill issued by poxwalkers on heresy call you slurs and blame you for their own death

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604397850675380234/1276704023424012288/toughlife.gif

Quarantine russian players

[plucky flax]

[wraith sphinx]

Now whenever I want to play but it's peak moscow hours I play solo mode instead

Bots are actually pretty good when they have your upgraded gear and a full talent tree

All classes except psyker work too

[zealous mango]

Psyker bot just brainbust themselves reaching 100% immediately

[dry gull]

Not that much difference from me, tbh

[dry gull]

There's a ton of nice detail and set design thats easy to overlook in the middle of a hectic game.

[deft stump]

You mean, all dook players. Cos they ded yet busy screaming off about how you play on controller and such at times.

[dry gull]

Wish we had scoreboards on Xbox, ngl

[wraith sphinx]

nope, I said what I said

[marble crater]

Sorry it was me

[plucky flax]

Damn germans

[upper sun]

arbities should have dual boltpistols

[plucky flax]

Arbites gonna have psyker ability and keystone

Can create bubble with yellow toughness

Its also aoe stagger when cast

[marble crater]

Does it also deal damage?

[upper sun]

yes

bleed

[marble crater]

Would a shoulder charge be good or is that too similar to ogryn and zealot? Probably

[plucky flax]

Balanced for maximise units sold.

[upper sun]

yeah

[plucky flax]

Whatever I'm buying it because I'm starved for new contents.

[upper sun]

1 ability is you riding the dog and charging in
2 exploding the dog into a shield/golden touhness/ bubble/bleed aoe
3 stealth(you merge with the dog)

[plucky flax]

Become dawg.

[marble crater]

I'm buying it because it's only 12 bucks and I got the Imperial Edition for 20 bucks just recently, seems fair to buy the new class

[plucky flax]

Is 20 cheap?

I got that edition at launch I think for 40 something

[zealous mango]

I think the default pricetag is like nearly 30$

[blissful solar]

the current sale price is $21

[plucky flax]

Fair.

It's worth it for the aquilas.

[blissful solar]

it really do be

[marble crater]

Indeed, now I can buy drip

[zealous mango]

On sale right now is like only about 8.58€

So it is really worth to get just for the aquilas

[plucky flax]

Scorpion at home top is gone tho sadly.

[marble crater]

I shall be an enforcer, probably

[plucky flax]

Don't arrest some unsanctioned guy.

[marble crater]

I would never arrest your friend

[plucky flax]

[lavish glade]

troll smh

[marble crater]

Kick him

I understand wanting to have a different psyker build for the mission, but there are like 10000000 better ways to do that

[rigid sky]

Block list gets another name :)

[plucky flax]

He's on EU so you won't see him.

[rigid sky]

I'm on EU

[abstract flower]

british people aren’t real

[marble crater]

British people are birds confirmed?

[rigid sky]

sips tea noncorporeally

[plucky flax]

I see then feel free.

[abstract flower]

british “people” are actually just androids from another time

[plucky flax]

Don't let him see a psyker with gun.

[minor trout]

Don't let them see this

And the several reload speed/non warp ranged damage talent nodes

[rigid sky]

ngl I find anti-gunker extremists to be hilarious

[minor trout]

Gunker is probably the best way to play psyker

I just like staves

[rigid sky]

It's a great way

idk about best

[minor trout]

Too unique to not use

[rigid sky]

tbf, it's eeriely similar to Marksman's Focus, Executioner's Stance Veteran

(but much better)

[minor trout]

Staves I mean

Too unique to not use

And force weapons

[rigid sky]

oh right

Inferno is a flamer, Voidstrike is a slow Plasma, Electro is a snappy Brain Burst and Voidblast is a magic Rumbler :)

(fwiw I agree with you, I'm just being a bitch)

[minor trout]

Inferno is so much better than a flamer

And voidstrike doesn't need ammo

[analog kraken]

why do people hate on gun psyker so much lmao

well not people, certain people*

[minor trout]

How dare magician not use it's gimmick

[analog kraken]

doesn't gunker use assail usually?

[minor trout]

But gimmick is staff/force stuff

Anything with peril

[analog kraken]

i always thought as long as you're using the blitz the gimmick is there lol

[plucky flax]

Ye

He acted as if I stole his dog

And the round didn't even start

[analog kraken]

nah fr that's super weird

gotta chill tf out

i wanna try gunker sometime seems fun

[plucky flax]

Maybe because he was vet and afraid I was going to steal all his ammo

Plasma vet be like

[analog kraken]

Lmao reminds me of the dialogues sometimes when the ogryn keeps taking all the ammo it's hilarious

ah yeah i wanted to ask how do you usually know which weap has decent/good stats to keep and which doesn't? i'm still unsure of what to buy as a general baseline

[plucky flax]

Depend on weapons. Warp weapons can safely dump warp resistance.

For others it's often mobility/defense or collateral

If its a damage stats its good and you want it at 80

Maybe reward for doing h40 should be material to craft 100 stat weapon

[minor trout]

Someone is just petty

[minor trout]

Defenses

[analog kraken]

so do i usually just grab any weapon with high everything but the dump stat?

[plucky flax]

Ye

[analog kraken]

ah lol ok cool i didn't think it was that simple

thanks man

[wraith sphinx]

I wholeheartedly recommend. Best glass cannon build in the game

[marble crater]

Things weren't always this simple

Dark times before the crafting update

[analog kraken]

any recommendations for a build? i'm still shit at the game so 💀

yeah i remember reading about the loot system being so bad before i just couldn't buy the game back then

[wraith sphinx]

well technically an optimal build won't compensate for you not having a good grasp at the game

however

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ec65923-24ea-43a2-ab3c-a78b2690bc4a/my-gun-psyker-wassail

I've also got gun psyker builds with smite and brain burst if you're feeling lucky

[analog kraken]

ofc not, just asking so i can keep it around rn and try it out a bit, get used to it and stuff

[wraith sphinx]

main thing to remember is to never neglect melee

[analog kraken]

looks cool actually saving it

[analog kraken]

yeah i struggle with that a bit still

i rely so much on deflector and yet i get cooked lmao

[wraith sphinx]

practice makes perfect 🙂

[analog kraken]

yessir, still on that

at least now i can do heresy somewhat well anyway

[wraith sphinx]

heresy is where most wannabe gun psykers get stuck

if you can win damnation and auric missions with a gun psyker build you can consider yourself good at gun psyker

[analog kraken]

noted

i still gotta try gun psyker on heresy i've been doing a br inferno staff build atm since i got used to it

[wraith sphinx]

fair, have fun!

[rigid sky]

Skip Deflector imo, for gunker in particular

the greatsword gets a lot of juice from its blessings

and you rely on it a lot as an offensive tool

Gunker for me is primarily sword and bees; the gun is just for whenever you actually need it.

(the threshold for "need" is very low, it's often the more convenient choice, but you can throttle it on your team's ammo economy pretty well by leaning on your other tools)

[hasty silo]

or just slide

dont be in the open

dont be line of sight of shooters unless you're actively planning to drop them

i feel like that should be obvious but you'd be amazed how people are willing to fight infront of gunners for no reason

even in havoc

especially in havoc

[rigid sky]

I kinda like deflector as a way to cheese peril gain on inferno for a shriek lol

It's a blessing that might do nothing at all 9 games in 10

and in the 10th it'll get some value and tank at least some damage

I only really take it on Deimos, because I don't get much out of anything other than Uncanny on it tbh

I don't use it enough to build Slaughterer stacks

[nocturne dust]

not really

In fact, it gets juice a whole lot less than other weapons

[wispy bay]

Fact

[nocturne dust]

The FGS is the most blessing-independent weapon we have, lol

[wispy bay]

Also because the difference between patterns is the biggest among the weapon families.

[fierce saffron]

anyone got any electrokinetic staff builds ?

[nocturne dust]

Of course, part of that is FGS just not having any of the omega strong blessings like Uncanny

[nocturne dust]

see pins

[fallow token]

27 mins power matrix holy crap

[rigid sky]

Shred is pretty damn good imo

and momentum and wrath too

Deimos gets less apart from Uncanny, at least the way I'm using it. I'm sure you can lean on it more and get more out of slaughterer etc too

[analog kraken]

yea for gunker i won't use it, i just do for my current build

[plucky flax]

Send some good chinese pugs over here.

EU guys are so bad.

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[fallow token]

too many of them

[normal berry]

I’ll carry the boats ez

[marble crater]

Sorry

I'm doing my best

[plucky flax]

You're probably better than 80% psykers in havoc

[marble crater]

top 20%

[wraith sphinx]

sut is closer to top 5% actually

everyone else is a havoc forged smyker

[normal berry]

vermintide II hardened me, just got this game like 3 days ago and nothing can stop me

[marble crater]

I actually need to play more of the new havoc, just need my wrist to fully heal first, slowly getting better

[wraith sphinx]

carpal tunnel syndrome?

[marble crater]

Probably

[wraith sphinx]

hope it heals well 🙏

[plucky flax]

Too much gooning

[marble crater]

Thanks

Too much lying on the side and scrolling through shorts and gaming

[fierce saffron]

is smite worth it with electro

[rigid sky]

It can work ok I guess

since Electro tends to take shriek anyway

[fierce saffron]

im just using the 1st thing in pins for electro

[rigid sky]

and smite combos nicely into shriek

[fierce saffron]

i never use electro before

[marble crater]

Smite is the best Blitz people will hate you for using

[fierce saffron]

does anyone know a good video that shows how to use electro efficiently

[rigid sky]

Honestly, it's the simplest of all staves to use

[fierce saffron]

how do i use it?

[rigid sky]

just RMB+LMB spam any elites or specials to death

take a horde-clear melee weapon like Illisi or a FGS

[fierce saffron]

i see, i just feel like it doesnt do enough dmg.

[rigid sky]

take shriek with creeping flames for a strong ranged aoe attack

You gotta lean on warp flurry with it

[fierce saffron]

ill keep using it tho, i should probably mastery it out

[rigid sky]

it's very spammable

[fierce saffron]

oo ok

[rigid sky]

Check the pinned builds for exactly how to build it. It's kinda workmanlike, unspectacular, but can still chip through shit pretty well on the regular difficulty scaled stuff

falls off in havoc hard apparently, but good until then?

[fierce saffron]

do i want to use shriek constantly or can i just qwell manually

[rigid sky]

Shriek is an offensive weapon more than anything else

It does other things too, but primarily try to hit juicy mixed clumps of enemies or annoying shooting galleries

Shriek is a lot more powerful than it looks at first glance tbh

[fierce saffron]

hm ok

i just dont like losing my warp stuff

siphon or whats it called

[plucky flax]

I assume youre not at havoc yet?

[marble crater]

Wrong video

[fierce saffron]

i am with other classes, psyker i am only with flame staff

i dont do psyker that much

[rigid sky]

It's their primary purpose, tbh

it should farm itself back up anyway

[marble crater]

Now how to EK staff

[rigid sky]

Warp charges come quickly when you've just belched 6 stacks of soulblaze over a crowd of nurglites

[dry gull]

Blending through entire hoards with the FGS and Scrier active feels absolutely goated

[plucky flax]

Its havoc build and gameplay but you'll get the gist of it. Take out shooters and specials. Spam f at 84% peril
https://youtu.be/OdCsqNLTAEg

[marble crater]

Spam F = win

[rigid sky]

but, like, for Shriek to be anywhere near as valuable as the other ults, you have to be very aggressive with using it

[marble crater]

Psyker is very difficult

[rigid sky]

use warp charges to farm as many shrieks as you can

build peril to make them spicy as possible

the staff is a way to farm for more shrieks

[fierce saffron]

cool

ty

[marble crater]

also great at deleting annoying specials

[plucky flax]

My fav staff

[marble crater]

Mine too, it's the most mobile by far

[wraith sphinx]

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Guys I think my psyker overloaded

[marble crater]

If a set costs 2900 and I buy just the helmet for example for 900, can I still buy the other two pieces as a set for 2000 or do I need to buy them separately for more?

[upbeat kestrel]

separately i think

i may be wrong though

[wraith sphinx]

you can buy the rest of the set for a slight discount

@marble crater here is an example

[upbeat kestrel]

good to know

[wraith sphinx]

this particular psyker set re-features the pants from the savlar chem dogs set, which I already bought for 900 aquilas before

you can still buy the rest of the set if you already own individual item/s but the price will be altered as so

at least, I think it was 900 - p sure all psyker pants are 900 aquilas

another example

logging on darktide...

[tepid python]

what mod shows the warp charges like that

[plucky flax]

crosshair hud

[tepid python]

ty and thanks for a quick reply

[marble crater]

Thank you
I wish we could preview more pieces at the same time to see how they match

[wraith sphinx]

you can with a mod 😉

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/347?tab=description

[marble crater]

But I don't have access to mods

[wraith sphinx]

why?

playing on console?

[marble crater]

Yes

[wraith sphinx]

I see

[sonic raven]

how does Blaze Away work on an Inferno Staff? No "magazine" to spend...

[fallow token]

the longer u flame, the longer the stack is up/increase

[sonic raven]

do we have exact data, like for the plasma gun blessings that depend on overheat?

I'll check the atheneum for starters...

[marble crater]

It's at max stacks after like 2 seconds, if even that long

[sonic raven]

ok thanks

[marble crater]

It's also by far the best blessing for inferno

[sullen bobcat]

I like the one that applies brittle

[plucky flax]

It's not that good.

[weary crane]

Why do muties always hit like 0.0000001 ms away from reviving teammate

[upper sun]

why do muties always make a beeline for me when i inject a stim

[weary crane]

True

[flat nexus]

when you inject stim press your melee or range keybind

it insta pumps it in

[upper sun]

wat no way

lemme see if i can make it worj

🤔 it doesnt feel that much faster

oh no wait i think i got it

[flat nexus]

when you go stim and left click insta switch

[marble crater]

[brazen compass]

Had that happen to me twice in one day, on different maps

[marble crater]

I had to search for a spot to kill myself

[upper sun]

get on
no 1-2

[upper sun]

deserved for betraying loner

[marble crater]

[weary crane]

1 player afk, 2 players died and rage quit

H40 pugs are a mess

[wraith sphinx]

How does that happen on the mode with no automatching

[weary crane]

Ig the eu player pool is just that bad

[wraith sphinx]

MST moment

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

Just had a recon las vet and he just shot everything. Even chaffs.

Man spamming "I NEED AMMO" 5 mins into the round.

25 smol ammo 10 big ammo he took.

[wraith sphinx]

That's a classic

Which diff?

[plucky flax]

H40

[wraith sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041063282435428433/1370222627687235646/togif.gif

[plucky flax]

I wanted to steal his ammo to force him into melee tbh.

[marble crater]

EU players

[wraith sphinx]

I can't wait for the next update

[prime elk]

rumblergryn?

[marble crater]

When everyone is a noob with the new class?

[wraith sphinx]

Yes

And I want to see the supposed story rework

[marble crater]

"Story"

[plucky flax]

Recon las veteran shooting into chaffs.

[analog agate]

New auric ritual is actually fun. It is high havoc but with auric health pools and histg

[potent echo]

Remixed cutscenes

[plucky flax]

At least a rumbler oggy would do way more damage taking that much ammo.

[prime elk]

oof

classic vet noob

[wraith sphinx]

Seeing that in h40 is fucking wild though

When I was one in auric heresy it just made me quit the matxh

[plucky flax]

Normal eu pubs behavior

[marble crater]

EU not best server after all?

[timber cairn]

is it me or are ogyrns seriously OP right now?

[marble crater]

As they should be

[plucky flax]

Heard it'd us east. People might be too chatty on the mic tho

[wraith sphinx]

Us east pubs chat too much

Have I told you about the random who stopped to type "you psykers might not be so bad after all" as a cspawn rushed at him

Then said "nvm" as he got flattened

[young cliff]

I hate that, it's fine if you shoot a big pack before they reach you in a choke, because the gun is that ammo efficient, but he should be using that ammo to kill specialists and I see so many vets not doing that at all

[marble crater]

That automatically makes it the worst one

[modest perch]

just you

[prime elk]

Yeah they're broken right now

Playing ogryn makes the game one difficulty level lower than what you queued up for

[upper sun]

+1

[jovial juniper]

Sure

[upper sun]

too late

[jovial juniper]

Sure

[upper sun]

was finishing out a hab dreyko

someone left

i was trying to share free mats/skulls 😭

btw i learned that chaos spawn doesnt eat u if you are above revive

[marble crater]

What does that mean

[wraith sphinx]

Kowalski, analysis

[upper sun]

sec

chaos spawn here didnt eat me

it counted dead teammates as living so it went into the throw rather than the eat animation

[marble crater]

Interesting

[young cliff]

Do we agreed so far on what's the best course of solution for that unbalance is? Just a nerf to it's damage perks?

(im counting the confident strike blessing nerf as something apart from what ogryn itself is)

[prime elk]

idk, haven't thought much about it, because i'm not inclined to believe FS is going to do anything about it anyway

so seems like a waste of time to think about it

[marble crater]

Ogryn has been bad for so long, leave them alone

[late sapphire]

might also have been because you were cornered? same as mutants

[upper sun]

i dunno

oh yeah nah ogryn is giga broken

i tanked a chaos spawn gunners and a captain and still pulled the revives

[young cliff]

Sad but kinda true

[marble crater]

That's just because you are OP, not ogryn

[upper sun]

special thanks to my duo partner we did it

[young cliff]

Look, I would be fine with this level of sturdiness if ogryn could not match and equal a martyrdom zealot THammer in damage

[marble crater]

Why do you hate ogryn?

[young cliff]

Zealot is supposed to be the "attack" part of the melee classes, ogryn is meant to be the "defense" specialist

[young cliff]

I don't hate ogryn watchamean?

[upper sun]

best part is

im not even doing an unethical build like @plucky flax

[marble crater]

Stop trying to nerf the sweet brutes

[upper sun]

the damage and toughness regen of club with confident strike is something

[young cliff]

Do you want zealot rework to be even more degenerate to compensation?

[upper sun]

i dont think it matters what we want

[plucky flax]

WHAT ABOUT ME

[upper sun]

arbites costs money has to be OP
ok we reworked zealot has to be as good as arbities and ogryn

[young cliff]

MorbidlyobeseShrimp ways are scary and slow and weird and I don't like them

[upper sun]

u heard me MR unsanctioned M1 spam

[marble crater]

Sure, make every class OP and fun to play, then increase the difficulty across the entire game

[plucky flax]

It's op

[mental grail]

I'm not even an ogryn main and I believe they deserve it.

[young cliff]

I'm an ogryn main and I know we deserve it

[mental grail]

Ogryns got hit with the shit stick for so long they just need it vro

[upper sun]

imma be real

ive been playing ogryn non stop since the update

[mental grail]

Besides

[upper sun]

i lost all ability to play other classes

[mental grail]

Arbite is going to come out and fuck the balance

[marble crater]

Did you have the ability before?

[young cliff]

Tried zealot and it genuinely feels weaker

[upper sun]

tried playing psyker and i died to trash

[mental grail]

So enjoy chadgryn dominance for another month.

[upper sun]

i tried thammer marty my beloved and pulled the most ass performance of my life

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[young cliff]

Try an only heavy attacks ogryn build with Mk5 shovel and witness a better THammer zealot

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

mk5 shovel is the folding one no?

[young cliff]

Yeah, the heavy attack horde clearing one

[upper sun]

its bugged

[young cliff]

How so?

[upper sun]

sometimes it doesnt do the folding animation

it felt awful last i played it

[young cliff]

It still do the attack, even if it doesn't look like the shovel is folded

Is animation only

[upper sun]

yeah but i kept fucking up and unactivating it

[weary crane]

I think its fixed

[upper sun]

id rather play standard shovel

[young cliff]

I say because it deals equal damage than martyrdom THammer, all while feeling better and not need to be dying to do it

[plucky flax]

If you want to play I can play now and see if my laptop is fixed.

[upper sun]

cant rn

[young cliff]

Irl is quite busy business this Sunday I feel

[tepid python]

what if he sucks

[young cliff]

MorbidlyobeseShrimp moment

[plucky flax]

Impossible since they want to sell.

[mental grail]

If fatshark releases a $12 dlc for a new class after two years and it sucks dick I may turn violent

[upper sun]

BUT YOU CAN PET ZHE DOG XDDDD

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[tepid python]

ogryn overhaul was a good sign but what if they over correct their perceived misbalancing while making arby's

[young cliff]

Exaggerated reaction, but at the same time I feel it is deserved

[young cliff]

Ogryn itself doesn't need much nerfs imo, some damage perks nerfs for it's almost perma uptime, the issue is stuff like rumbler and confident strike

[tepid python]

its settled thab arby's will be a suboptimal vet

🤝

🧂

[mental grail]

Arby will be vet but cooler and less lame