psyker-class

[summer prairie]

Probably cosmetics right

[marble crater]

Vraks, reconlas, las pistol

[summer prairie]

I think these long descriptions always are

[minor trout]

So anything that fires fast

[weary crane]

Oo we got cranial corruption back

[brazen compass]

Damn them brainhurters

[summer prairie]

they removed the new powersword luas

the patch has monster spawn data for Silo, I guess that was missing

[wraith sphinx]

It's accesible via solo play mod but nonfunctional

[jovial juniper]

So same as the gooey bursters

[wraith sphinx]

Bubonic bursters? That crashes the game currently

[summer prairie]

That's about it for the patch

[jovial juniper]

Yeah but when it worked
Bursters would apply the same slow as BoNs puke

[wraith sphinx]

Kinda devious I like it

[minor trout]

Think I will use uuuh inferno staff and force sword, is that the meta?

[wraith sphinx]

The elite enemies modifier was interesting too but I think that is one of the deprecated ones

[wraith sphinx]

And force dome

[marble crater]

Check pins for some builds

[minor trout]

Nah, shriek

[wraith sphinx]

Thus pleases the metaperor

[minor trout]

I don't want to specifically use a meta or premade build

[wraith sphinx]

Just run whatever and don't worry abt it

[marble crater]

[minor trout]

Staves are fun

It is either inferno or uuuh

That void thing

Not voidblast, the other

[marble crater]

Voidstrike

[wraith sphinx]

BOWLING BALL STAFF

[summer prairie]

Silo works now

[minor trout]

Not having to rely on ammo is fun

[minor trout]

Oh wait no other way around

I will use voidblast or inferno

Is there a single cohesive guide like veteran and zealot does?

[rigid sky]

Voidstrike is fun too imo

It's just not useful really

[wraith sphinx]

Psyked atheneum

Is in pins

[rigid sky]

Atheneum is a bit out of date iirc

[wraith sphinx]

Yes but outdated parts are marked as such

[minor trout]

Ah, force staff talents are on the brain burst side

[marble crater]

And not outdated enough to be irrelevant

[rigid sky]

Those awkward left points are mostly for LMB builds iirc

Most people skip them

[minor trout]

LMB?

[rigid sky]

There's great shit for force staves all over the tree, not confined to any particular side

[minor trout]

Channeled force sounds weird

[rigid sky]

Left mouse button - so people who focus on spamming the bolts

[minor trout]

And empyric shock

I wanna spam bolts

[rigid sky]

Idk what the best way to make an LMB build is now honestly

[minor trout]

Hmm all active skills sound good

Shriek, shield, gaze

[rigid sky]

Yeah, all are very good

[minor trout]

Shriek and shield are connected it toughness damage reduction node tho

I guess I will go with shriek for now

Is mind in motion as good as it sounds?

[rigid sky]

Nah, terrible

If you go Shriek, it is compulsory to take Creeping Flames btw

If you Shriek above 84 peril, it's lethal to most enemies

With a sirpris8ngly long range

[minor trout]

Voidstrike is

The one with

Bigger bolts as secondary right?

[rigid sky]

Yes

[minor trout]

I will take it

What melee do u guys recommend with it?

[rigid sky]

You can blow up a Crusher in one hit with a DD build

Force greatsword with voidstrike imo

[plucky flax]

@deft stump you had book for a long time here

[rigid sky]

It's our best brawler weapon

[minor trout]

DD?

[minor trout]

Alright

[rigid sky]

And you need a brawler weapon for voidstrike

[minor trout]

Does it have deflector?

[rigid sky]

Disrupt Destiny

[rigid sky]

Yes but I would skip

[minor trout]

But it is so handy lol

[rigid sky]

I like shred and wrath

I would just take Assail

Covers you vs trash shooters

[minor trout]

I am taking assail

With shriek

[rigid sky]

And DD synergy

[minor trout]

Seers presence

[rigid sky]

Shriek also covers you well

[minor trout]

Is DD a blessing or smth

[rigid sky]

Deflector redundant imo

[rigid sky]

Right keystone

[plucky flax]

Karien letting me die so she can solo clutch.

[rigid sky]

Try it before you knock it

[minor trout]

Ah

Is this the meta?

What curios are used with psyker? 2 toughness 1 stamina?

[plucky flax]

It's whatever you want.

[minor trout]

Picking cruel fortune and perfectionism too

[minor trout]

There has to be an optimal one tho isn't there

I will go +3 Stam for sure

[plucky flax]

Nah you just vibe.

[minor trout]

But I saw smth about hp in pins

[plucky flax]

I never run stam on psyker.

Sometimes 2hp 1 toughness sometimes 2 toughness 1 hp.

[minor trout]

I like having shit ton of stma

Stamina

[plucky flax]

For havoc I run triple toughness cos it's non existence there.

[jovial juniper]

Perfectionism propaganda

https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-uptempo-zyzz-fist-bump-gif-25235668

[minor trout]

Headshots are easy with voidblast

I am assume it is with voidstrike too

Might as well triple the stacks

And pick the extra stack talent

[marble crater]

No toughness increased by toughness curios is still none

[minor trout]

Let's check commodore for any good fashion

[plucky flax]

Yeah 17 toughness + 5 toughnes sub perk gives about 10 toughness in havoc.

Kind of a joke tbh.

[dusty wagon]

Voidstrike is a bowling ball, you don't hit the head, you hit their whole lineage

[summer prairie]

Silo is quite spicy

[jovial juniper]

Real

Comically evil map

Love it

[wraith sphinx]

You only need lingering influence subnode on dd

[minor trout]

The taraxander torso looks cool

[minor trout]

Why?

Won't you have so many enemies around that it is better to just up the limit?

[wraith sphinx]

No it fucks too hard with the pacing inbetween enemy waves

If your team is a little too good at killing you'll just run out of stacks without lingering influence

[minor trout]

Cruel fortune still sounds too good

[wraith sphinx]

Only on paper really

I tried it, noticed I have 15 stacks basically the entire match

Took it off, still kept max stack throughout

[minor trout]

So... It is hard to keep up stacks without the time boost

But it is also very easy to keep them up that you don't need to triple the income?

[quartz barn]

The blue goon usually spawns right in front of you

And most of the time you mow down everything in front of you anyway so you dont really need to focus on stack uptime

[minor trout]

Rem said otherwise lol

I do feel like having more stacks in total is more beneficial than having more stack time but what do I know

[wraith sphinx]

You do that then

[minor trout]

Nut seems to agree

Nut sounds like they know what they are doing, I would trust a nut

[wraith sphinx]

I think not having lingering is too punishing when it comes to keeping dd stacks up

[marble crater]

Now that DD in the buffbar is fixed we will finally get our answers

[wraith sphinx]

"Fixed"

I will believe it when I see it

[marble crater]

Or not see it

[minor trout]

Buffbar?

[rigid sky]

It's weird

[upper sun]

the bar that shows your passives on the bottom center of the screen

[rigid sky]

I have played with all DD subtypes

Only Lingering Influence is worth it imo

[minor trout]

Why do those funny bird looking gas masks

Keep mentioning navigators

Oh wow

Those ARE navigator helmets

Why tf do we have those

[jovial juniper]

If you consult the chart

Navigators are just a different version of psyker

💀

[minor trout]

Yeah but

We are nowhere near that

Why are we allowed to wear that lmao

Where did they even get those

How did hollowette steal/scavenge 3 different navigator helmets

[wraith sphinx]

When there's a will there's a way

[minor trout]

That woman has to be smth else

[wraith sphinx]

Who would knew stealing clothes from dead people is so lucrative

[wispy bay]

The DD HUD fix is fake.

[brazen compass]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[jovial juniper]

"THEY ARE REAL TO ME!"

[wraith sphinx]

Knew it lmai

[plucky flax]

Its real I saw it in my dream.

[wispy bay]

I never have expectation of it being fixed in the 1st place...

But they have to say it in "fix" quite a few times.

[wraith sphinx]

At this rate this is gonna become fatshark's equivalent of "removed herobrine" joke

[summer prairie]

I don't know why they call it a fix for DD when it's an issue with multiple buffs

and the fix isn't DD specific

[wraith sphinx]

I only ever noticed it with dd

[summer prairie]

Can happen with warp charges too

[wraith sphinx]

I see

I never really use warp charges cos it has zero synergy with scriers gaze

[deft stump]

IDK why they try to fix that only when all the trackers may or may not show up.

[minor trout]

Is scryers gaze only good with gunker

It sounds like it is better than shriek

What is the shriek cooldown again?

[terse rivet]

Is raking fire bugged? Or is enemy directional registration just really wonky. Feel like I’m getting the bonus damage shooting things in the chest fairly consistently

[upbeat kestrel]

40 secs

iirc

25

its 25 secs

[terse rivet]

You can use scriers on a surge staff left click build pretty effectively with the 10s at 100% peril talent.

[glacial vapor]

No but if you're running a staff, you tend to just... Use the staff lol

[prime elk]

shriek is still better for staff

because SB

[upbeat kestrel]

also melee psyker

with scriers

[terse rivet]

BFGS with scriers is really fun, darth mauling entire waves of gunners/ragers with a crit special

[upbeat kestrel]

delete button

[wispy bay]

For me it was War Thunder "Client stability has been improved".

[terse rivet]

Anyone know the internal name for the stacking scriers buff for weak spot kills I cannot find it to add to my buff bar

[summer prairie]

overcharge_weakspot_kill_bonuses maybe?

[rigid sky]

Ngl I like it with Voidstrike too, with the no-perils-death talent

[jovial juniper]

Something overcharge something

[rigid sky]

But it's mostly for gunkers

Vraks 5 is so crit dependent, especially with DD

[dusty wagon]

I use it with assail and surge staff

[rigid sky]

So that 20% boost is sick

[haughty star]

Sg is good for almost everything if you're insane enough

[rigid sky]

I can totally see it working great on any staff tbh

[haughty star]

Venting shriek is more reliable tho

[rigid sky]

They all scale so well with crit

[haughty star]

I like running sg with bb for kinetic flayer and mk12 rlg

[rigid sky]

I like it with DD builds in general I guess

[haughty star]

With fgs ofc

[rigid sky]

I still don't like recons on psyker

I want to maximise that finesse bonus

Recon is mostly just an infernus stick

[dusty wagon]

SG is good if you want to spam your abilities risk free

[haughty star]

Its pretty much only the 12 that's funni imo.

[prime elk]

good thing infernus is quite powerful

[rigid sky]

It is, but I get that on my Veteran already tbh. Vraks 5 is for the sickos.

[haughty star]

Yee its not so much focus on the damage as it is proccing talents when you choose rlg12 over vmk5

[summer prairie]

Does anyone know why I can't reset buffs with Testing Utilities, been an issue for months now

probably conflicts with something

[dusty wagon]

Any chance they're passive buffs

[summer prairie]

for instance DD

[haughty star]

The heavy las pistols are cool too

[minor trout]

Doesn't it reduce perils on kill

Goes up until 100%

But every shot with staves up your peril

[haughty star]

Yeee that's why you quell

[minor trout]

You can quell while in gaze?

[dusty wagon]

It gets capped at 100% so you can't overload for the duration

[haughty star]

Yes

[minor trout]

Then can u just keep it running

Forever?

[haughty star]

No

Its on a curve

[minor trout]

Ah

How long does it usually last?

[haughty star]

The peril gen gets more aggressive the longer you're in.

[prime elk]

you can get 40s pretty easily by running bcob + a good melee

on staffker it's going to be much shorter

[minor trout]

So is gaze much better?

[wraith sphinx]

You can quell even at max gaze duration but it will build up so fast you'll get like a second and a half of usage out of it

[minor trout]

I hope there are some cooldown reduction talents

[haughty star]

Id say 20s or so on staffker

[dusty wagon]

Maybe 10 seconds, but I also spam assail when in it which adds time because weakpoint hits.

[prime elk]

for gunker/bonker yes, not for staffker

[wraith sphinx]

At that point just let it run out and wait for cd

[dusty wagon]

You can also interrupt/cancel peril overload with SG

[haughty star]

With a additional perk

[minor trout]

Can't you do that with shriek too

[haughty star]

Yes

[minor trout]

Canceling it with shriek multiple times is a penance even

What does shriek have over gaze?

[haughty star]

Crowd control

[minor trout]

More consistent peril quell?

[rigid sky]

Big cone of death

[dusty wagon]

Yes, but Shriek doesn't let you throw all your crystals risk-free

[haughty star]

Shriek plus creeping flames is arguably the best cc skill in the whole game

[rigid sky]

Shriek is 100% about creeping flames

And a little CC through walls

[plucky flax]

Syllo there'll be cheat mod to do fgs swap combo soon.

[haughty star]

Why you gotta poke the bear

[wraith sphinx]

Shriek is like a magical dragons breath shotgun blast

[plucky flax]

Hrm?

I'm just letting him know so he can improve his gameplay.

[haughty star]

I thought syllo was awful opinionated about mods or is that not a thing

[plucky flax]

I do it manually currently but it's not as consistent as a script obviously.

Nah he uses cheat mods like me.

[haughty star]

Does lmb/assail macro still work?

[plucky flax]

No.

[haughty star]

How so?

[plucky flax]

They ruined quell cancel on all staves.

[haughty star]

Wooow

[plucky flax]

Can't even do it with right click on normal staves.

It's a bit of a delay now.

[haughty star]

Can you do it with assail still?

[plucky flax]

Yeah it works with assails.

[haughty star]

Nice

[plucky flax]

THey hard coded a delay into all staves or something.

[haughty star]

Thats all I really ever liked it for

[plucky flax]

Bit of a shit solution but eh whatever.

[haughty star]

I really don't think lmb was that broken to begin with but oh well

[minor trout]

Oh yeah forgot about the flames

[haughty star]

Tbh they could double lmb rate and it would change nothing for balance lol

[prime elk]

it was pretty aids, but it all pales in comparison to current ogryn anyway

[haughty star]

I guess my macro was never all that "good"

[dusty wagon]

I've also noticed that during SG's aftereffect the surge staff will auto-quell after a charge shot

[plucky flax]

I didn't see it in actual games.

It's just people on reddit crying about it too much.

[wraith sphinx]

Reddit cries emperor laughs

[plucky flax]

They ruined my left click burga spam.

[wraith sphinx]

Holy shit

That's a lotta range

[prime elk]

yeah

goes through walls too

[haughty star]

Yeah its wild

[brazen compass]

To be fair

You can hear someone through walls, especially if they yell loudly

[dusty wagon]

Zealot

Ironic that they get a stealth ability

[prime elk]

i mean

their stealth ability lasts like 2-3 seconds base

if you think about it makes sense

because that's about as long as a zealot can go without shouting

https://tenor.com/view/holding-fart-hold-explosion-red-face-gif-9542860

[wraith sphinx]

Stealth liability more like

🥁

Doesn't hold a candle to vet's infiltrate imho

[prime elk]

nah zealot stealth is stronger

[dusty wagon]

Who would win in a shouting match Saltzpyre or Zealot?

[prime elk]

because you can get like 80-90% uptime with it if played correctly

[atomic plover]

Anyone here know which mod disables the visual of psyker forceshield completly ?
Still suffering from being an amd card owner lmao

[prime elk]

stealth, murder something, nearly instantly stealth again

[wraith sphinx]

Lining up backstabs is unfun as hell though

I can't stand it

[prime elk]

i don't really like stealth either, hurts my hands when i play it

vet stealth is fine

less apm required lol

[wraith sphinx]

Maybe if they ever add some kind of a backstab indicator a la tf2 spy

[prime elk]

there's a mod for that ig, changes cursor colors

or crosshair color rather

[wraith sphinx]

Ehh

I want to see the zealot auto raise the weapon when in backstab range

Just changing reticle color is unkino

[terse rivet]

it's I wanna see

[prime elk]

idk i think it's fine

[terse rivet]

also disables psyker and zealot flamer fire if you want it to

[wraith sphinx]

Well I beg to differ but let's leave it at that

[summer prairie]

AgentChaos: doing it manually isn't that hard after all, at least with better binds, but doesn't seem worth the effort

[atomic plover]

tysm. I have another mod tha disdables a lot of visual stuff, but not the shield sadly

[summer prairie]

it becomes hard though if you also want to keep your peril up by weaving assail

[terse rivet]

You do mean the bubble shield and not like when you are blocking with a weapon and it has a force shield animation

[atomic plover]

yes, the bubble shield. sometimes I get a visual bug where i cant see through uit at all (known issue with amd cards)

[terse rivet]

Yea that mod will make it more transparent think it's adjustable as well

[sturdy reef]

this is exactly why I hate shroudfield and prefer infiltrate lol

[atomic plover]

perfect :3

[wraith sphinx]

Same, infil is legit my fave vet ability

[sturdy reef]

ES for me

but the infiltrate CD is pretty atrocious

should be swapped with shout

[wraith sphinx]

I think it's fine

It's like my only use case for conc stims

[sturdy reef]

or maybe the gold toughness node of shout should have a cd increase on it

and you keep the base cd the same

[brazen compass]

? Not to yell at your teammates constantly and make them feel better?

[wraith sphinx]

Nope

[sturdy reef]

ES is too addicting for me

[wraith sphinx]

Too much shouty... be quiet...

I'm kinsa like Coach in that one achievment pic

Lemme find it

Me an infil main when a voc vet starts shouting

[flat nexus]

Fgs?

[plucky flax]

Ye

[flat nexus]

What does fgs stand for

[wraith sphinx]

Force greatsword

[flat nexus]

[sinful peak]

recon XII or iagV for gunker?

[brazen compass]

Laser or boolet is the question

Although IAG 5 has more finesse IIRC which helps with armor

I think they're neck and neck though

[prime elk]

depends on whether you want to prioritize sheer dps or ammo efficiency

[wraith sphinx]

I'm ngl I just copy my psyker gun loadouts for my vet

Minus crit chance perks

[rigid sky]

Much prefer Vraks 5 personally

It depends on your ability to handle the recoil

But vraks 5 dps is absolutely silly

[wraith sphinx]

Shrimply pull the mouse down

Ez

[rigid sky]

And crouch for longer range

It really helps to lower it

[wraith sphinx]

Yup

[rigid sky]

Assail is a good backup for it

[wraith sphinx]

The best

[minor trout]

Why are there so many brain burst penances

[rigid sky]

Relic from pre-patch 13

It used to be our only blitz

And warp charges used to be mostly tied to it

[prime elk]

you WILL use brain burst, and you WILL enjoy it

[rigid sky]

The "maintain max stacks" penance made way more sense back then

[wraith sphinx]

God I wish bb was buffed

[strange wyvern]

500 more assail buffs, coming right up

[prime elk]

true...

[rigid sky]

I'm still loving it in my EP voidblast build tbh

Up to Havoc 30 with it so far

[zinc phoenix]

I wish you could do some kind of skill aiming with BB

Like blow off the nuts of a heretic to get a free high speed second cast

[rigid sky]

Pre-channelling kinda works like that I guess?

[upper sun]

i wish BB had less skill involved

like it would only target elites and disablers

[wraith sphinx]

Or

Fatshark ought to rework rmb brainburst to be just a targeting mode

[upper sun]

no look LOOK

look

hear me out

HEAR ME OUT

[wraith sphinx]

Hold rmb, mouse over desired target, let go, now you can look away and hold lmb

[upper sun]

HEAR ME OUT

the special button now activates a second mode for each blitz

for BB it lowers one hand and makes it charge a lot faster but do less damage

for assail it uses 4 shards and launches them into a spear that has higher damage and better armor cleave

[wraith sphinx]

Nah

Rmb assail crushes the shard and blasts it like a canister shot

[queen fog]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-dale-gribble-pocket-sand-pocket-sand-gif-3699662

[wind wind]

No

[wind wind]

And what would that imaginary secondary mode do for smite?

[dusty wagon]

Counterpoint, shove them into your bolt pistol

[wind wind]

Counterpoint counterpoint they are thrown like normal but they go up the enemies ass and cause triple damage

[dusty wagon]

Antman

[upper sun]

nothing smite just gets deleted

[dusty wagon]

Recharge lasgun

[upper sun]

peak lets run with it

[wind wind]

I agree to your terms but only If you read legion. Otherwise all bets are off

[upper sun]

no deal

[wind wind]

Then smite stays

I have a perfect idea what smite gets. The mechanics stay the same but the player starts cackling uncontrollably and keeps screaming "unlimited power".

And "i am all the psykers"

[dusty wagon]

Only if it gets a push effect

[wind wind]

Deal

[dusty wagon]

I will stand on the bridge waiting for the monster, I either push it into the abyss or die a martyr.

[wind wind]

Or we go the starkiller route and it lets you pull the morningstar from orbit onto the planet

"Focus the smite on the destroyer"

[wraith sphinx]

Wrong, the psyker should start yelling VERY LIMITED POWER

[dusty wagon]

Interesting point Rannick, just one problem. You're in brain rupture range.

[wind wind]

Whenever a veteran or zealot is present, when the psyker holds something he should taunt the two of them by saying "dodge this you filthy casual"

[wispy bay]

There are actually a few Star Wars reference in the voice lines.

[wind wind]

Are there? Must have escaped me

[wispy bay]

Between the male cut throat and female loose cannon.

[dusty wagon]

I want to use the Purgatus staff, but snipers exist.

[wraith sphinx]

Assail the snipers

[wind wind]

Brain burst for snipers, purgatus for chaff/bruisers, dueling sword for everything else. There you go

[wind wind]

Details?

[wispy bay]

https://youtu.be/f-YwYeQdJb4?si=NDEePpIHdyo93WFp&t=208

Prequel meme

[wind wind]

Ah ok

A bit of a stretch but i needed the exercise

[upper sun]

dude

the hotfix made everything worse

double bosses arent spawning anymore

[wraith sphinx]

Unbased

Cringe

It's overtide

[summer prairie]

what double bosses, had plenty of those earlier

in havoc at least

[upper sun]

in auric

[summer prairie]

the hotfix barely had any changes, don't think anything should be different

[upper sun]

🤔 maybe just an off game then

but yesterday i had double chaos spawns in addition to the one or two bosses atfer breaking totems

or attacking them rather

🤔 maybe we broke them too fast

[summer prairie]

isn't it one CS per totem

[upper sun]

i didnt even get that in my last game

just the scab captain before

maybe theyre bricked in hab dreyko?

or if you destroy them too quickly they dont spawn

i had an ogryn with a branx that fucking two tapped them

[plucky flax]

I invited another psyker into party then switched to my surge build and the guy asked me to go smite.

He said his smite build did 2 mil damage in 40 mins I just went okay cool story bro

[upper sun]

its tru i was the other psyker

[summer prairie]

anything is possible depending on what your team is running

[upper sun]

agent then barreled me 5 times

[plucky flax]

Probably he played purple

I did 2.7 mil in 37 mins with purple on burga cos team didn't want to kill

[deft stump]

But, but, scoreboard.

Post maybe.

Censor names if required.

[wraith sphinx]

Sorry was me

[plucky flax]

Not home on my pc

[blissful solar]

a likely story

[deft stump]

When you can anyway.

[plucky flax]

I did 1.2 mil other psyker 1.1 or 1 mil ogryn 900k you I think 300k in 28 mins

[deft stump]

Why did knoife do more than DS4?

This makes no sense.

[plucky flax]

Okay maybe 250k

[deft stump]

So normal, kay.

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

Wot?

[minor trout]

Penetration of the soul, warp rider, empyric shock

Those 3 seem to be nice for staves

Not sure if voidstrike has a charged secondary tho

Would it trigger channeled force

[hoary lagoon]

how are you seeing your stats like that?

[deft stump]

Mods.

[hoary lagoon]

nexus i guess?

[minor trout]

Should I take wildfire with creeping flames hmmm

[plucky flax]

Cheat mods

[deft stump]

He uses scoreboard mods basically.

[plucky flax]

Scoreboard

[hoary lagoon]

hax

and yet this game has no steam mod support smh

[queen fog]

steam workshop with gamesworkshop? i dont even know paperwork and that seems like a good skyscraper's worth of it

just for that alone

[blissful solar]

vt2 does use workshop so maybe one dau

[blissful solar]

but if they do that they might also do private realm or whatever it's called

what we have now is basically a ffa on the honor system and it's working fine

[sinful peak]

is the fgs horde clear combo just lightspam

[plucky flax]

Ye for mk8

For mk6 you can either light light light block repeat

swap light light repeat

Or swap light light light light repeat

[twilit beacon]

The armoury exchange hase blessed me

first real 17 toughness curio

[sinful peak]

icic

what does Assail weave mean

[covert juniper]

Is it worth it to build around scriers gaze?

[jovial juniper]

Just throwing one or two shard
Meleeing
Throw shard
Melee
Throw Shard
Melee

[jovial juniper]

Preferably around high finesse weapons

[marble crater]

It's only very OP, yes it's worth it

[plucky flax]

Something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en720aSwEJg

(not me)

[upper sun]

real and true 🌠

[wraith sphinx]

how can I tell which 17 tough curio is real and which not?

is it rating above 400 or smth?

[marble crater]

When it says 17%, only stamina is bugged

[weary crane]

I think it does decrease the 21% and 17%

Only by a decimal

[wraith sphinx]

ahh

[minor trout]

I was carrying a battery in case we need it

Ended up taking it to extraction

Lovely

[weary crane]

Should get extra points for that

[minor trout]

Can someone tell me what happens if I shoot assail without aiming

Cuz I keep doing it while aiming

Can I just shoot whatever my crosshair is on?

[wraith sphinx]

you do less damage

the shard still homes in on nearest enemy

[minor trout]

Oh nice can use in a pinch

[wraith sphinx]

yup

[weary crane]

I don't think it changes damage?

[wraith sphinx]

I usually use it when I have to run away from a horde while thinning it

[wispy bay]

Less damage and range

[wraith sphinx]

run, swing 180 degrees, flick a few, turn back around

[minor trout]

How many enemies does it cleave? Should I take both of the sub talents?

[wispy bay]

Otherwise, as long as you put cross hair on someone, you get a hit.

[wraith sphinx]

unupgraded I think it cleaves 2?

and upgraded 4?

someone else can confirm or deny this

[minor trout]

What is the dump for blaze btw

[wispy bay]

Cleave 2

[minor trout]

Mobility or warp?

Force greatsword

[wispy bay]

Take 2 upgrades is fine, but you can also play without assail upgrade.

[wraith sphinx]

always warp resistance

well, almost always

[minor trout]

Voidblast being a slow projectile weapon is really throwing me off lmao

[wraith sphinx]

you mean voidstrike?

[minor trout]

2 levels to voidstrike

No, blast

Dont have strike yet

[wraith sphinx]

isn't voidblast the aoe explosion staff

[wispy bay]

That's just staff projectile in general...

[minor trout]

Got a force greatsword yaaay

[minor trout]

For secondary

Primary is a normal projectile

[minor trout]

Wait shit this is the normal one

[wraith sphinx]

ah

[wispy bay]

Staff M1 attack is generally the backup option.

[wraith sphinx]

I recently took off assail upgrades after using them for forever

put the points into toughness nodes because I'm so gangsta

[minor trout]

I will get em if I have leftover points

[wispy bay]

I think your level is too low to give the staff its full potential.

[minor trout]

Yeah

I am playing on lower diffs rn anyway

And not planning to use voidblast

Just can't get voidstrike yet

[wispy bay]

Staff power curve is a steeply one.

[minor trout]

I will get these two

3*

Nothing else seems to effect staves

[wispy bay]

Prep for disappointment...

[wispy bay]

Even with the upgrades, it still doesn't work as good as a dedicated ranged, while there are nodes that work with everything and give more value over all.

[wraith sphinx]

I suppose

I simply treat assail as a tertiary ranged weapon and it has always performed well in that role

[minor trout]

Downer as usual I see

[jovial juniper]

Remember to get Warp Splitting for VoidSTRIKE

It's on the right side

[minor trout]

What does it do

[jovial juniper]

Gives melee/ranged cleave based on Peril level

Up to 100% extra cleave

[weary crane]

If you take warp unbound it's guaranteed 100%

[jovial juniper]

Lmb has low cleave so it doesn't change much

Electric zap doesn't care about cleave

Blast and Inferno are infinite

[wispy bay]

I say that as a Vstrike main...

Crop on phone is a nightmare...

[minor trout]

Then why suggest it

[upper sun]

@summer prairie https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/271c1752f6e785798f76c6569c97478814cf3241/scripts/settings/components/enemy_event_spawner_settings.lua
all of the ranges for chaos spawns here are 1,1 was it just bugged before?

[jovial juniper]

Because VoidSTRIKE bowling ball has 12 cleave

[wispy bay]

This is my gun psyker build. The Vstrike build is almost the same.

[jovial juniper]

At maximum war splitting it goes to 24

[minor trout]

Why do u call void blast "lmb"

Just say blast

[upper sun]

also my god why the fuck does fatshark insist on having lua in the most unreadable format?

[summer prairie]

That file wasn't touched

[upper sun]

yeah

[jovial juniper]

Left mouse button

[upper sun]

🤔

[jovial juniper]

Not blast

Aka basic shots

[upper sun]

was i crazy or was it just natrual boss triggers

[minor trout]

So u get it just for the secondary

[summer prairie]

Probably natural

[minor trout]

Does voidblast trigger channeled force

[jovial juniper]

Which one is that again

[upper sun]

😭 it happened too many times and i've never seen a pogryn/chaos spawn or a chaos spawn/beast

[jovial juniper]

For the VoidSTRIKE secondary specifically

[weary idol]

I don't see why it wouldn't

[jovial juniper]

On a side note, also affects assail

[minor trout]

Fully charged secondary

[wispy bay]

Channeling force is the one that buff M1 after fully charged M2.

[minor trout]

Do u charge voidstrike

[wispy bay]

It works best with EK, avoid using it with Vstrike.

[summer prairie]

Unless it was like two totems stacked

[minor trout]

What is warp unbound

I don't see it in the talent tree

[jovial juniper]

Oh it's one of the worthless talents on the left side

[wispy bay]

Vstrike charge takes eternity, and its M1 is weaker than EK.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-oh-thats-real-nice-oh-thats-gif-5657001176707031635

[minor trout]

Empyric shock?

Wildfire for creeping flames?

[fiery stratus]

they fixed dd counter finally

[wispy bay]

It is decent for M1 EK build though.

[wispy bay]

Fake news

[fiery stratus]

they rebroke it in a different way

[jovial juniper]

Well the issue is that you can just zap your target to death

[long wharf]

has anyone seen any gameplay of the new class yet?

[wispy bay]

Now it doesn't show up at all.

[jovial juniper]

Another DT case of "the alternative is better"

[wispy bay]

Nah, M1 is pretty good vs force shield enemies and bosses.

[jovial juniper]

Two case scenarios

Vs another billion

See what I mean

😭

[weary idol]

you know what's even better into them?

pulling out your melee weapon

and smacking them with it

[jovial juniper]

Maybe FS should've kept quell cancelling

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/bPliX.gif

[wispy bay]

Nah, I rather use staff "special attack" before melee.

[brazen compass]

They need to give back what they stole!

[jovial juniper]

Feels like FS gave the staff a bash just for the sake of saying they have one

Hmmmm

Wonder if I could play RT staff bash only

[brazen compass]

We should write a strongly worded letter of discontent

[weary crane]

It's the one at the end of gaze

[eager token]

how long does it take to finish the latest event

[jovial juniper]

Like 12 matches

As long as those matches are the ones with the modifier that is

[minor trout]

Oh I am not picking gaze

[brazen rampart]

Cringe.

[minor trout]

Says frog

[brazen rampart]

It's the most fun keystone.

Scuse me, ability.

[minor trout]

I am going shriek.

[heavy kite]

hey everyone, i love the Voidstrike staff, but im kind of struggling to make it really good with build on blessing, any idea on the matter ?

[wraith sphinx]

gaze hater opinion disregarded

[minor trout]

"hater" mf I just don't wanna use it

Finally, venting shriek

Should I get wildfire with creeping flames

Got voidstrike a level early!!!

[jovial juniper]

What do you got

[heavy kite]

gimme me a minute

for the staff
Surge + Warpe nexus

blitz : assail
ability : shield
keystone : empowered psionics

[wispy bay]

What are you struggle at exactly?

[heavy kite]

i feel like the secondary attack should hit harder ?

the bowling ball

[jovial juniper]

Consider swapping Empowered Psyonics for Disrupt Destiny

[wispy bay]

Likely because the path on the tree is not to support is strength.

[wispy bay]

Apparently EP makes KF stronger, which is why I run EP on mine, but with assail, nah.

[wispy bay]

Try this

[strong gulch]

check pins

[wispy bay]

2 spare pts for whatever you feel like.

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Yeah it kinda sucks they nerf the damage too much.

[heavy kite]

oohh nice

[wispy bay]

The Vstrike pin is a little out dated since they made SG quell spell, you don't need solidity that much anymore.

[jovial juniper]

You can keep the shield, but swapping to Gaze would also give you the Precognition modifier, which is more damage to Bowling

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-chill-bowling-lets-go-bowling-jeff-lebowski-gif-4887929

[minor trout]

What are the segments on the stamina bar?

[strong gulch]

Talk to @nocturne dust 🫡

[minor trout]

Is gaze really the best for voidstrike...

[wispy bay]

Deadvoid is extremely defensive of his idea... it is a waste of time...

[plucky flax]

I use creeping flames with voidstrike tbh

More horde clear that way

[wispy bay]

Generally speaking, Gaze is for most damage, Vent is for damage and defensive option, shield is pure defensive.

[minor trout]

It sounds so fun

But what are the segmentations in the stamina bar and why do I have different amount of segments with different weapons

Is that the dodge count

[nocturne dust]

And wat else would you take?

[jovial juniper]

Gives CRIT chance, scaling damage, scaling finesse

It's strong

[strong gulch]

not imo but both are good and it's easier that ever to do SG voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

no

read the pin

[strong gulch]

BUT I'm not a voidstrike enjoyer.

[nocturne dust]

😭

Nobody reads the pin

[strong gulch]

true

[plucky flax]

Creeping flames dd tree 1 point for something.

The segment is how many stamina you have.

[nocturne dust]

😭

[plucky flax]

Each bar is 0.5 stamina worth.

[minor trout]

Wdym "how many stamina"

Why does weapon effect stamina

[plucky flax]

Block more and run more.

Each weapon has its own native stamina count.

[minor trout]

Wtf that's bullshit

[plucky flax]

Fgs has more base stamina compared to ds.

I don't think it's bs but fair.

If that's how you feel.

[wispy bay]

PA

[minor trout]

I had a different plan

[wispy bay]

If based on your pin build.

[minor trout]

Not sure I will have enough points tho

Probably not

[nocturne dust]

I just need valid reasons to change my ways of thinking. If you can provide proper evidence, or at least enough indication as to why something is wrong and then I can test it myself and discover it's true, I am fully willing to admit I am in error.

[wispy bay]

My build is different on the top half.

[minor trout]

Wait I actually might

[wispy bay]

Like BB KF instead of Assail, I think Vstrike and Assail overlap a little too much.

[nocturne dust]

Are you sure you don't mean Empyric Resolve?

instead of Solidity

[minor trout]

That's what I wanted to use

[wispy bay]

Oh, and Vstrike M2 gets stopped by Carapace doesn't matter how much cleave you put in, so Warp split is optional for me.

[nocturne dust]

those left branch nodes are normally pretty meh

[nocturne dust]

You need the cleave for elites, not carapace

[minor trout]

The leftmost one tho

When they get hit by staff attack, they take more warp damage

[nocturne dust]

is meh

[minor trout]

Which, staff attack is warp damage right?

[wispy bay]

I say optional, not no go...

[minor trout]

Sounds great

[nocturne dust]

LMB.

You take time to use LMB, I just use RMB and deal more damage sooner

that's the problem with empyric shock

[minor trout]

Isn't all staff attacks warp damage

Why wouldn't the secondary action be warp damage

[wispy bay]

Most of the time it is strong enough to delete 2-3 elites, and more with surge..

[strong gulch]

You have to stack it with primary attack, not any staff attack.

[nocturne dust]

yes, so they all benefit but only LMB triggers the talent

[minor trout]

Fucking say so fatshark.

"staff attack" secondary comes out of my ass?

[nocturne dust]

that's what primary attack means

[wispy bay]

Empyric shock only works well with M1 EK.

[minor trout]

Damn it

Scratch that then, hellfire instead

[jovial juniper]

More like, the entire isolated talents on the left

[wispy bay]

You think I joke with you about that earlier??

[nocturne dust]

I mean, to some degree everything is optional. I would say it is vital enough in higher difficulties that it would be misleading to not have it.

[minor trout]

Removing 2 points for hellfire to go with uuuh the fire shriek thingy

[nocturne dust]

You can compensate with skill, of course.

[minor trout]

Or is that also bad

[wispy bay]

Nah, Perilous Assault is decent with SG.

[minor trout]

And not like the description

[nocturne dust]

erm, the swap speed node? 😭

[strong gulch]

Primary/ M1/ LMB are all names for the same thing. You need to do that in order to stack Empyric Shock. Empiric Shock is a debuff applied to the enemy. So you just end up wasting time.

[wispy bay]

Spam primary, melee, weave while unbound is active feel good.

[minor trout]

Yeah I got that the first time

Instead of that, the talent that gives surrounding enemies soulblaze when an enemy dies to soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

Anyway, @wispy bay your PA build with SG isn't an unknown factor. It did get stronger thanks to the SG buffs, but so did my build as well. The point of taking the route I do is that it lets you keep assail and stay in SG to stack it. If you're constantly entering and exiting SG with PA, your stacks for damage are diminished, and voidstrike is in a state where it needs damage so that you can more often not charge fully.

[jovial juniper]

[wispy bay]

Since I run BB KF, I have option for wildfire, but rarely take it.

[nocturne dust]

Yes. Perilous Assault isn't part of that

[wispy bay]

Oh, no the PA is not for Vstrike build...

It is for the regular gun build.

[nocturne dust]

Oh, you're just saying ER is no longer needed for the build?

[wispy bay]

ER has always been odd for me... I don't use it most of the time.

That's is pure personal preference.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the quell at the start isn't going to let you stay in SG longer, you generally want to quell to 0 anyway to stay in SG longer, ER still helps quite a bit.

[minor trout]

SG, ER, all I am hearing is shotgun and emergency room

Are you guys okay

[fringe garden]

I think the use of ER is completely dependent on how good you are at not getting hit. It's such a massive hit to your toughness generation.

[minor trout]

Oh it is that

[fringe garden]

I mean, if you're good enough and can spare the points the difference in offensive output is pretty massive, too

[wispy bay]

Well, again, I go with BB KF, so I have Psy Aura, not the optimal node, but it makes spamming SG way more often.

[strong gulch]

Kill more get more toughness

[nocturne dust]

I think that's fair, your preference is clearly against ER, but at the end of the day it is Good for DPS and a meta tactic. Even the ballspam is personal preference, shriek is meta at the end of the day.

[wispy bay]

Usually, during the unbound, I get SG back.

It is just me though, and it works more vs dense enemies.

[nocturne dust]

It's not even that big of an ask, imo.

Like, if you can play auric damnation decently on psyker, ER is almost certainly going to be good for you

[fringe garden]

I don't disagree. But it's not something I would recommend to just everyone. You're obviously talking about meta, though, so yeah.. makes sense.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-kids-kidding-lol-gif-14324740

[wispy bay]

BB KF Vent is still so damn strong.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah. I mean, I'm not making builds for malice and the build isn't for Havoc as it clearly states in the message

Just for auric dam

[plucky flax]

Can confirm it's op in sedition

[wispy bay]

Especially since Soul blaze can be lighted on forever...

[fringe garden]

I've just.. never been able to enjoy BB

I feel like we have much better options for the niche it fills

[plucky flax]

Use kf its free damage

[nocturne dust]

I love BB as an idea. Hate it in practice.

[wispy bay]

The secret to play it is to use KF passive and never actually use it.

[plucky flax]

It procs every time

[fringe garden]

I'd rather have smite or assail, though

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/real-estate-its-free-real-estate-gif-11276235

[fringe garden]

Like, infinitely rather

[plucky flax]

Okay fair

[wispy bay]

Well, except when there is a fucking sniper on the other side of the map behind the smoke and blood.

[nocturne dust]

Free yourself from smite

Embrace danger

[fringe garden]

No

I'm not a smite holder, and I use plenty of assail builds. But I love having smite on hand

[nocturne dust]

Well yeah

[fringe garden]

And I only play pub games. Some days you just need smite for the pubs.

[nocturne dust]

My point is smite basically nullifies danger against everything but bosses and snipers since you can just pull it out and tell the big group of evil to knock it off

even if you don't hold it, it's absurd

[wispy bay]

BB is to kill 1 important target at range... so yeah, not much use. KF passive damage however, is a good deal.

[fringe garden]

Oh I know. I consider myself a very good smite user. It can be incredibly tactical when used in brief bursts.

[plucky flax]

You are havoc ready

[wispy bay]

Oh, since soul blaze fix, you can make the game pretty trivial with smite...

[plucky flax]

Bubble smite op

[fringe garden]

Slide in smiting, switch to flame staff, throw a couple LMBs to stagger back to give space to charge a long flame. It's just beautiful. And so... so safe.

[plucky flax]

Based

[wispy bay]

There you go, with Inferno even!!!!

[nocturne dust]

But KF is so nice with Inferno

Gotta supercharge your stacks

[strong gulch]

KF keeping BB alive

[fringe garden]

It really is the only thing it has.

[nocturne dust]

Maybe we should all stop using KF so Fatshark realizes BB sucks from the usage stats

[fringe garden]

Or just embrace the passive DPS nature of it and change it fundamentally

[sturdy reef]

BB is okay

[fringe garden]

BB is trash next to smite and assail. KF is the only argument for it at all and it doesn't require you to ever actually use the blitz, lol

[strong gulch]

Without KF, then only Ainz and I are left using EP BB.

[nocturne dust]

Nah, every blitz has a passive bit to it these days

Charged Strike, Assail just sticking around and doing its thing while you fight

[fringe garden]

I guess if you count assails whizzing around you after you've switched back to another weapon then yeah, I guess that's true

Yeah

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I do since that's assail's whole thing

[fringe garden]

KF is far more passive, though

[nocturne dust]

Assail would suck if you had to stay on it

[fringe garden]

It's about as passive as it gets

[nocturne dust]

Eh, kind of

Like, you do have to play a certain way to reliably proc it, psyker just already played that way

KF sucks if all you're doing is melee

so it's similar to charged strike, pretty passive and easy to weave into the playstyle, but you do have to actually do that playstyle or it will not be much of anything

[fringe garden]

Random tangent: Is there any reason to ever actually use Charged Strike?

[nocturne dust]

Taking bad weapons into mediocrity

[fringe garden]

lol, fair enough

[nocturne dust]

It's good for weapons that cleave poxwalkers and do not kill

so dclaw

[fringe garden]

Yeah, that makes perfect sense

[nocturne dust]

the weapon also needs heavies in its horde clear, obviously, so it is pretty limited in use

[jovial juniper]

Funny Shock Maul moment

Unironically the best user of it

[strong gulch]

If you just want to use heavies on FGS against bulwarks, but it's not worth it unless you're doing it just for the meme.

[nocturne dust]

I haven't bothered testing it with smaul

then again, I don't bother with smaul much

[strong gulch]

I forget that weapon exists.

The random picker doesn't ever pick it either. lmao

[nocturne dust]

Crusher but mediocre

[jovial juniper]

I think Pygex did test

And because CS acts like smite
Less mass = more ticks

And Shock Maul with Hammerblow has enough impact to heavy stagger stuff

Enemies lose mass when staggered

So more ticks

[nocturne dust]

I really need Fatshark to optimize here and do a lil less math nobody notices

[jovial juniper]

I really want Fatshark to add Shock and Awe to the smauls

[nocturne dust]

This is why I lag into the stratosphere daily 😭

[nocturne dust]

They should give it to EK

[jovial juniper]

It wouldn't help EK at all

SnA is -mass% after kill for x seconds

Only available on Thunderhammer of all things

[nocturne dust]

So same as 70% of blessings on every weapon

[jovial juniper]

We should give Devastating Strike to every weapon

[nocturne dust]

so we can have even more cleave creep and when they release havoc 60 they can buff mass even higher?

[jovial juniper]

H60
Every enemy has carapace stops cleave property

-100% CRIT chance

[wispy bay]

The blessing that gives you extra damage on shocked target works with smite...

So you don't need to use the special that lock you off.

[weary crane]

ogryn buff

[minor trout]

Can they add this outfit

And make the navigator helmet not look like it is floating on my head

[weary crane]

i swear one of the new modifiers was supposed to be that enemies turn red if they are hit by a critical attack

i remember seeing that

[minor trout]

Such an awesome look, man

I need to look this cool

[strong gulch]

Critical health not crit attack.

[weary crane]

ahh

[strong gulch]

close tho

dang fever dream memories

[nocturne dust]

Just a dream

I don't think they'll ever add something like that

and if they did it would look funky in game

[autumn lark]

ITS YOUR FAVOURITE COMPANION!!!

[minor trout]

Wrong navigator

[minor trout]

They already have the helmet

Kind of

[jovial juniper]

"navigators don't like to be called inbred, they prefer selective" - Navigator helmet description

[nocturne dust]

[minor trout]

https://tenor.com/view/whothefuckstartsaconversation-gif-22983824

I was checking the helmet descriptions

[jovial juniper]

💀

[steady torrent]

Nah, you need to be cool to wear that cool

[minor trout]

I am cool

[steady torrent]

You got any receipts to back that up?

[upper sun]

I do!

oh wait i thought you said recipes

nah i dont

[steady torrent]

What kind of recipes we talking about?

[upper sun]

depends what ur into....

stews maybe???

[strong gulch]

Me leaving myself notes on a baking recipe, but the note only says "rise from eggs" with no other information.

[steady torrent]

nah, tacos

[upper sun]

burritos maybe????

[marble crater]

I just had someone who left the team because me and the other guy were destroying the totem for the event

I can't with some of these people

[strong gulch]

You still playing? I'll join.

[marble crater]

We are full, I am waiting to be rescued

[strong gulch]

kk

[minor trout]

I have rizzed up cassia

[minor trout]

This is the house orsellio drip right?

I need it!

Does the game have anything close to that chestpiece

[dusty wagon]

I met someone who didn't know how to do the interegator debug puzzle...

[marble crater]

[dusty wagon]

It isn't even a puzzle

I worry for them because they were playing as a psyker.

[marble crater]

We don't claim them

[dusty wagon]

We absolutely do not

[strong gulch]

sorry it was me

[dusty wagon]

The worst part is that I was protecting them, playing as my Ogryn, and they kept retrying it after failing. They didn't even want someone else to do it.

[raw hedge]

How cleave affects staffs? Does affect staffs?

[wooden sand]

Cleave equals more enemy pass by

But it depends on the staff

[marble crater]

It only really affects voidstrike I guess

[raw hedge]

I know thatI know that

[wooden sand]

Yeah

But you think the staff that sends a magic airstrike to hit heretics would have cleaver?

[raw hedge]

Ive been testing and voidstrike is the only one who feels different with cleave talent

[marble crater]

Inferno and Voidblast already have infinite cleave and Elektro is single target, effectively

So yeah

[raw hedge]

Thanks

''Endurance'' and ''one with the warp'' stack?

[marble crater]

Sure, but I think both are multiplicative, so don't expect to become invincible

[raw hedge]

Enough for me, at least i dont want to be 1shot by a mob
Thanks

[raw hedge]

Does wildfire caps soulblaze stacks?

[strong gulch]

Wildfire does have a cap.

Info on wildfire. #psyker-class message

[raw hedge]

Thanks

[nocturne dust]

Wait, new class means I have to endure the levelling process again

😭

[strong gulch]

I will be fine.

The real problem is learning a new class... while it's new.

Just tell me so I don't have to think.

[steady torrent]

everyone gonna be in ww3 about which talent is better on the new class

[nocturne dust]

@buoyant maple Arbites guide when

[pure scaffold]

Dog build f tier

Baby vet build s tier

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1298432898004811786/Rest_in_Peas.gif

Rest in peas Path

[strong gulch]

We can look back months later and laugh at pur bad takes.

[tall creek]

posting this here because it got no traction in general, and the specificity may have been why. When you have a psyker on your team, do you prefer a lightning staff or a pyro staff? I don't get the other two.

[jovial juniper]

Naaaah

If dog build isn't 100% S+ tier

I'm asking for refunds

[nocturne dust]

Inferno is strong and my preference for winning.

EK is still great tho, it's just not as great as Inferno.

EK is my preference if the psyker knows what they're doing and it's not Havoc 30+.

[tall creek]

thanks

[ivory heath]

back after a long hiatus, which staff be pumpin these days? voidstrike feels weaker than when i left but maybe im rusty

[prime elk]

everything but voidstrike basically

not that VS is bad

[ivory heath]

def feels worse, seems like its not good at killin elites anymore just carving through hordes

[prime elk]

yeah it's not what it used to be

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is fun, just feels bad to play compared to the others

[prime elk]

it's the highest skill ceiling/floor staff

so naturally, fatshart made it worse than the others lol

[ivory heath]

any recs for blessings on an inferno?

[prime elk]

blaze away / warp nexus

[analog agate]

So stupid. Only staff that requires aiming… and nerfed

[ivory heath]

it really is dude it was the only one with any skill to use if they wanna nerf just nerf the bowling ball size not the dmg

[buoyant maple]

we'll see

[nocturne dust]

see pins for Inferno build if you want more detail, but blaze away/warp nexus is the standard

[nocturne dust]

People complained about it being OP, so Fatshark fixed that by repeatedly nerfing it multiple times while buffing other staves a ton

[ivory heath]

nice tyty

[ivory heath]

its a bummer because before the talentt tree overhaul it was basically useless and after it was so fun, sad to see its been just sett back to where it was