psyker-class

[strong gulch]

Seems like DS before it was buffed.

[nocturne dust]

That way there's actual value in just building stagger, it never goes unrewarded, but stagger also doesn't just dominate due to the stagger resistance that increasingly becomes a problem the more the enemy is staggered

[broken carbon]

to kill a crusher

that’s

WITH

buffs

[broken carbon]

yah basically

alternatively

move ds back to psyker only

[strong gulch]

People used pre buffed DS rarely.

[broken carbon]

and let the players bitch

[broken carbon]

because power creep !

there were better options

then ds was made the better option

[weary idol]

how does this fix anything]

[broken carbon]

makes the issue contained to one class, where it’s easier to balance

[nocturne dust]

Zealot says only super-special Zealot weapon (and one ogryn weapon) should get crusher one-shots

Curious

[broken carbon]

it’s the only 2 weapons that thematically should be able to do it

[nocturne dust]

Screw themes

This is 40k

Logic has never applied

[weary idol]

can I argue for a Helbore lasgun in there

[nocturne dust]

I feel like every class should have at least one weapon that can eat crushers for breakfast

[broken carbon]

oh true

[broken carbon]

ds would be able to, power sword,

just not in one shot

[broken carbon]

i agree with you on this

anti armor weapons should exist

[nocturne dust]

Not unfair

[nocturne dust]

but I doubt Fatshark would ever actually balance their game

[broken carbon]

i have good ideas aaallll the time

[broken carbon]

true !

[nocturne dust]

Last time they nerfed something, it was quell cancelling. Which was fair... except for all the other parts that got hit other than LMB

😭

[strong gulch]

Which they said that they wouldn't do because animation cancels were intended gameplay mechanics. They were just gonna change the LMB debacle.

Then we got no QC except wait... assail can still do it.

[nocturne dust]

....you can still sprint cancel LMB, can't you

[strong gulch]

Isn't that gone? Unless they brought it back. I haven't paid attention to that tbh.

[nocturne dust]

Idk, I don't use sprint cancel

I think it's still around tho

[strong gulch]

I remember RMB sprint cancel has been gone for a long time.

[nocturne dust]

You sure? You can still cancel animations with sprint

[sturdy reef]

Weapon swap is still around

[strong gulch]

It was patched out specifically for awhile at least. Idk about now tho.

[sturdy reef]

GL doing that consistently and for a long time

Without a macro

[nocturne dust]

Imagine them nuking weapon swapping because some guy makes a macro for swap cancel LMB 💀

[strong gulch]

Some swap cancel without macro a lot and consistently.

[nocturne dust]

Swap cancel isn't too hard

[sturdy reef]

I dont mind quell cancelling being removed

[strong gulch]

But they use it for RMB cancel not LMB.

[sturdy reef]

I do miss it

[nocturne dust]

so you do mind it

[strong gulch]

I do mind.

[nocturne dust]

[strong gulch]

They at least didn't have to make all quelling less smooth and staves just feel worse.

cancels aside

[sturdy reef]

True

Coulda just nerfed the lmb quell cancelling

I rarely saw it macrod out

[strong gulch]

My guess is that it took "too much work" and this was their quick fix.

[nocturne dust]

They did because it's Fatshark

[strong gulch]

"quick"

[sturdy reef]

Well, it isnt coming back

Lol

[analog agate]

I do it consistently without a macro. Very easy. Wheel up then wheel down. Thats it

[nocturne dust]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Fatshark always tries the right solution last.

[nocturne dust]

isn't it literally just pressing the swap button twice

e z

[analog agate]

Technically. I don’t use the swap button, haha

[sturdy reef]

The silver lining tho

If I dont wanna pop using vb rmb, "quell cancelling" rn basically gives you a few points of peril

Even on h40

The muscle memeory is still there from pre patch for me

Same rhythm

[nocturne dust]

Since it forces a single tick I should start hard edging like a maniac

[strong gulch]

I do blow up less. This is true.

[sturdy reef]

Join the POTS club

[analog agate]

Grooooosssss

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sanglard-funny-cooking-pot-on-head-gif-15796086

[sturdy reef]

Yes

Keep the peril high

Keep banging the pot

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[analog agate]

I also did the test and weapon swap gives you one more full blast for VB

[static sonnet]

That's my only issue with the Force Greatsword. I can't special attack on cd to keep peril up in melee

[rancid mauve]

Is guaranteed greatsword special crit a good blessing?

[prime elk]

nope

it looks good on paper

but amounts to 30% more damage on swing, every 15s or something stupid like that

really bad

[rancid mauve]

Oof

What do you advise then?

[prime elk]

wrath/riposte/shred/precog are generally the most favored options

the defensive blessings are perfectly good takes too

but most people damage max

[weary idol]

I actually recently picked up staff psyker again to see how the "stickiness" actually feels

I noticed it on inferno staff but for the purposes of voidblast it's actually really convenient

if I'm pressing quell I usually want the minimum one quell tick anyways

on inferno it feels weird after the M1 like it doesn't have a buffer window

[nocturne dust]

You might be thinking of how they broke Inferno's m1

which is relevant, but separate

[weary idol]

oh if that's a seperate problem then I dunno

but I barely played staves before quell cancel nerf so I don't have much of a reference for how that felt

[nocturne dust]

The minimum 1-tick quell is fine. The issue is you can't break it like how you could before. You can't cancel quelling.

The game has a lot of animation cancels. It's how the gameplay feels so smooth. Not being able to stop quelling when I want feels very sticky for that reason.

and sure, it's not a huge amount of time to be stuck in quell, but it's mightily annoying when there was a very obvious solution that would've only affected LMB and been easy to implement

[sturdy reef]

as long as you dont do it at 97% when launchign the special, you wont pop

inferno lmb quell cancelling was funny

take dogs and bursters for a walk

can still do it now, just not as quickly

to me, LMB quell cancelling shouldve had a cap on it of some sort. They didnt need to nuke quell cancelling like they did. but w/e, I doubt itll come back

[nocturne dust]

ICD would've solved everything 😭

[sturdy reef]

yup

[wind spruce]

It feels real bad, had to unlearn automatically hitting quell whenever I had a microsecond where I wasn't doing an offensive action or blocking. Quelling felt dangerous for awhile bc I couldn't react

[static sonnet]

No like, my peril drops while in melee and I can't use special to keep peril high because if you use special when you dont have full charge you lose what charge you built so far, so I can't use it all the time, only when full or you lose value

[prime elk]

i mean nothing wrong with using the special uncharged/partially charged

[nocturne dust]

well, the thing wrong with it is it consumes your partial charge

[prime elk]

not really

[nocturne dust]

yes really

no charge for you 😭

[prime elk]

just find your nearby poxxer hoard to recharge in no time

[mental grail]

free dopamine

I can't get enough

[broken carbon]

what’s ur pfp from

what character is that

[mental grail]

based and arianepilled

the character is mithrun from dungeon meshi

[strong gulch]

What's that "MEOW" tag next to both of your names?

[remote nacelle]

What build you run in havoc 40 for wizard?

[verbal thistle]

I run EK obscurus, gaze, ep

Assail

[mental grail]

its from a server im in

[strong gulch]

Meta havoc is bubble with inferno or voidblast with deimos or DS4.

[mental grail]

i have a few

click on it and go there, you should be able to get it

[strong gulch]

Thanks for letting me know. I just saw some people with similar tags with a link to other servers and didn't know what it was.

[mental grail]

I have both the YAOI and YURI tags, among others

It's very funny

[patent jacinth]

This also happens to be one of the best ways to fall asleep at your desk

[strong gulch]

Just be bad like me. smh

[broken carbon]

i knew i recognized the art style

still waiting on season 2

i don’t think i’ll read the manga

but i’m thinking about it for frieren

i just started watching bocchi the rock

very good so far

[broken carbon]

i need the yuri tag…

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/xenoverse-goku-super-saiyan-angry-dbz-gif-1416275111944307575

what are you doing twin

[broken carbon]

not eeping

that’s for sure

[jagged scaffold]

is the icon for disrupt destiny going away before 10s from Lingering Influence just a visual bug or is it not working

[somber echo]

psyker with braced autogun is so funny

[patent jacinth]

Visual issue

[jagged scaffold]

Wonderful

[somber echo]

isnt that the guy from ror2

[zinc atlas]

How does this fare against warp siphon EK?

[mental grail]

that's fucking mithrix ☠️

[flat nexus]

its like a new discord thing, some servers have it

[remote nacelle]

Why voidblast

[marble crater]

Because it's an aoe staff with infinite cleave that can CC everything and apply soulblaze in a huge radius while dealing a lot of damage in the main damage circle

[narrow herald]

Do you want infinite cleave or not? 😈

[remote nacelle]

Might have to try it instead of inferno

What blessings and perks?

[marble crater]

Crit chance, flak, blazing spirit, nexus

[patent steeple]

btw, I have found a decent use for Shredder on meleeker (not gunker though, because while they are the same build, with gunker I want either recon or IAG): getting toughness quickly via Inspiring Barrage.

[jovial juniper]

😭

That's all SAP has been before the buffs

[patent steeple]

Shredder is also good for killing naked ragers and any specials at close/somewhat mid-range, but I feel like I have yet to master Shredder regardless...

especially with bonus crits from something like Cavalcade, I have found that Shredder can deal very high damage to stuff that I would struggle to kill or even just almost kill with Blaze Away or Pinning Fire...

[patent steeple]

oh... I didn't remember that was its only use case back then...

well, I did just make a follow-up message detailing the other uses I have found for Shredder (I have yet to fully figure them all out...)

actually, hang on... does Shredder have all of the effects of Run & Gun built-in now, or just the "you can run while shooting" part...?

[jovial juniper]

Built in run and shoot

It's like the only weapon with it built in

Heard laspistols had it in the past

[patent steeple]

so it doesn't get the close-range damage buff while sprinting like it would if it had Run & Gun?

[jovial juniper]

Don't think it gets the damage buff

[light solstice]

What about rending shockwave and warp flurry? That’s what I’m running on my trauma staff

[jovial juniper]

That's the alternative

[analog agate]

It is good if you are using it alongside an inferno psyker. If this is for non havoc feel free to use it as well

[marble crater]

What diabolic said, if there is an inferno psyker then use it, but if you are the only psyker then I wouldn't

[light solstice]

Interesting... i haven’t started havoc yet but made that build for havoc... and no I don’t have an inferno psyker with me

[jovial juniper]

Emotional support inferno psyker

[light solstice]

I’m going to try warp flurry with blazing spirit

Would that work or should I drop warp flurry

[analog agate]

No

Nexus works with blazing as blazing works off crits

[light solstice]

Alright I’m going to try that combo and see how it feels

[narrow herald]

Nah get penetrating flames trust

[deft stump]

Trying to get H40 done, Baross blight+rampaging.

[plucky flax]

Too hard

[deft stump]

No luck basically.

Now just waiting for Ham or Keje, I guess.

[rigid sky]

It feels like trying to light a joint with your last remaining lighter that has a dodgy flint.

Flick, flick, flick, flick, flick, flick... where's the fuckin fire

[light solstice]

Lmfao

[rigid sky]

(Blazing spirit without Nexus, I mean)

[patent mango]

yo new skulls teaser??

[light solstice]

Oh ok 😅 because that did not sound really good to me 😂😂

[patent mango]

would be funny if its a new class with a dog or something even if this only has like 1% chance of happening

[rigid sky]

Spirit WITH nexus is great

[patent steeple]

what would that even be conceptually, a penitent/loyalist Moebian 6th trooper with a pox hound? 🤣

[deft stump]

Got lucky. Now Excise Vault Final Toll and Garden.

[sturdy reef]

Wtf was that skulls trailer reveal

[deft stump]

I swear this game hates me.

[sturdy reef]

Genestealers?

[jovial juniper]

Skulls

Just 10 days away

Can you believe it

[patent steeple]

I mean, Sefoni gossip has been hinting for a while now at her hearing psychic whispers from Xenos...

[sturdy reef]

It def wasnt a pox hound in the skull trailer

Didnt seem like there was chaos corruption neither

Meh, just keep expectations low and you cant be dissappointed lol

[upper sun]

SKULLS SOON

RAAAAAAAAA

[patent mango]

random reject finds a random dog that can kill beasts of nurgle

[strong gulch]

Maybe I'll fire up VT2 for skulls stuff.

I'm bad at the game now. So it should be fun.

[upper sun]

the forum thinks well get pets in darktide

because the video pov looks like a dog running

[strong gulch]

I didn't see.

I'm not on the forums.

Unless this discord counts.

[upper sun]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/tune-in-at-skulls/107881/6

theyre finally adding pets to collect slopsteel and dialsop for us

i cant wait to pay 2000000 dockets on a fake pet

[deft stump]

Watch as pets fight to grab ammo for ther owners.

Or worse, pets are 3900 Aqulias.

Because why not profit when they can?

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-tortoise-borat-whattypeofdog-gif-4089564

[upper sun]

nah they wont make anything that effects gameplay for real money

[patent steeple]

btw, if I am already running Momentum on my Meleeker FGS and Inspiring on my SAP in the same build, should I swap Soulstealer to one of the following:

• Toughness node
• One With Warp/Gaze TDR node (either one, although both lack constant uptime since I also use Crack of Bone)
• passive +5% TDR node
• passive +5% ranged dmg node (so I can kill stuff more easily with SAP at slightly longer ranges, as my Assail tends to not instakill some specials quickly enough, even with the aimed throw...)

[upper sun]

i have 13mil i cant wait to blow through tbh

[deft stump]

You know they'll just saypicking up Diamantine and Plasteel is optional and such.

[patent mango]

buy dog for 1m plasteel

[hexed imp]

its actually a drunk ratling with a romanian accent

[strong gulch]

Something like the servo skull like that mod maybe??

[upper sun]

ye thats what i think

[sturdy reef]

I doubt its a new class

[wooden sand]

Servor Skull gaming

[tired estuary]

its felinid

[wooden sand]

[upper sun]

maybe theyll give us a pet that gives basic benefits or we can sacrifice to get undisabled once a game or something

[wooden sand]

We don't need furry veteran

[tired estuary]

alternate joke: the zealot rework is going in a weird direction

[strange wyvern]

zealots are now dwarves

[hearty wolf]

wait

zealots are getting reworked?

[jovial juniper]

Eventually

[hearty wolf]

you could have said that 3 years ago

I guess it will happen next year

[analog agate]

Can’t wait for it to be a limited time special dog enemy like the gunner just was

My pessimism has reached a low with them in the past half year

[jovial juniper]

Yes

But you see

Zealot tree is currently 75% bad

[hearty wolf]

it do be like that

[strong gulch]

Limited time enemy and we maybe get trinket to put on weapons.

[strong gulch]

hi

[jovial juniper]

It shouldn't 😭

[hearty wolf]

hi, how you?

[strong gulch]

I am ok. I didn't sleep much so I am a day person right now. 🫡

[cursive thorn]

what do the psykana collars on every psyker headgear do

[hearty wolf]

Same, I slept like 4h but strangely have functioned all of today quite well

[nocturne dust]

I don't believe it. Nothing ever happens.

Will just be a hound event.

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[strong gulch]

May you stay clear brained. 🙏

[strong gulch]

Honestly the most sound suggestion thus far.

[nocturne dust]

"You are awake in the morning because you woke up. I am awake in the morning because I didn't sleep. We are not the same."

[strong gulch]

True. I got 3 hours.

[marble crater]

Wouldn't your permission reach a high

[jovial juniper]

Stops you from opening the a gateway to the Warp past 100% peril

[nocturne dust]

You guys don't like that new enemy nobody ever sees, nobody knows the name of, and can't distinguish from the sniper spam modifier on missions?

[cursive thorn]

what blessings/perks with shredder pistol

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

I think I've seen the radio operator and recognized it was him literally once

[strong gulch]

I saw the operator a few times, but it was always on accident. I never noticed that enemy from far away.

It was always in melee range and me thinking "This gunner seems kinda big. Oh well."

[nocturne dust]

Blaze Away/Cavalcade/Powderburn/Inspiring Barrage and Flak/Maniac iirc?

I don't use shredder often tho

better to ask @weary idol

[strong gulch]

I think I noticed one like 15m away once because of the reddish arcing around the operator's head or backpack.

[nocturne dust]

I noticed the red light and the off color of his armor

[strong gulch]

ye

Made me realize how much I rely on the silhouette of enemies.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I think a lot of the time you never seen them at all

They seem to activate and then disappear

before visible

[marble crater]

Those enemies were in the missions?

[strong gulch]

Hiding under shit and saying "git em"

[strong gulch]

Yes

[zinc atlas]

What are some good content creators showcasing psyker builds in action?

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax
https://www.youtube.com/@AgentChaosMeme/videos

[jovial juniper]

Agent Chaos propaganda

[strong gulch]

yes

[zinc atlas]

Already subscribed 😊 but thank you

[wispy bay]

We have to ask Chaos for the share of youtube revenue.

[zinc atlas]

Bonus points if the videos showcase team comms and synergy

[wispy bay]

We are in his videos, we spread his videos.

[strong gulch]

If you want mid gameplay, I have some vids. lmao

[marble crater]

Can't wait to get my 5 cents

[wispy bay]

Loyalty is loyalty.

[zinc atlas]

Would definitely relate more to mid gameplay that’s for sure

[marble crater]

[hearty wolf]

what if we got some cool gameplay

if I launched darktide

[marble crater]

And then you upload once a month?

[strong gulch]

@austere crest Has some. She hasn't uploaded in while, but they have some older vids of rather aggressive gameplay that you don't typlically see.
https://www.youtube.com/@skudie/videos

Ratgirl_Lilian is a skilled player; might be @fallow shale
https://www.youtube.com/@Ratgirl_Lilian/videos

[weary idol]

blaze away is mandatory damage blessing

[strong gulch]

You can watch mutants grab me with a 90% success rate. lmao
https://www.youtube.com/@ofthebeanvariety/videos

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch

[weary idol]

then your choice of a second dmage blessing with pinning fire/cavalcade being the best

[hearty wolf]

summon

[weary idol]

or inspiring barrage for sustain

[strong gulch]

We game?

[hearty wolf]

yes

@nocturne dust

[weary idol]

for perks use +maniacs and +flak nothing special

[strong gulch]

KK. Brew coffee. Need like 10 minutes.

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust I saw you

where did you go

[strong gulch]

Potato core

Loading in

[hearty wolf]

opki

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042856649376935986

[fallow shale]

Oh hi hello ! yees that me xp

[strong gulch]

Yay! Glad I didn't get the wrong person. Also hello.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-gif-22816005

https://tenor.com/view/oh-snap-oh-no-a-rat-rat-infestation-gif-16363523

[marble crater]

That would have been awkward

[hearty wolf]

I think I know you.

What's your ffxiv character name?

[jovial juniper]

Dude, this server is full of rats 😭

No wonder we're fighting Nurgle

[strong gulch]

I was once introduced to the same person at a party at least 6 times and never remembered the person's name. It's ok.

[marble crater]

Was it a complicated and unique name? Or like... Bob?

[regal harness]

whats the dif between left and right hand smite

[marble crater]

Left is for quick single target stun, right is for huge aoe stun

[strong gulch]

Think it was simple enough

[marble crater]

[nocturne dust]

I can do it in like an hour

so not soon

[strange wyvern]

wait, radio operators aren't staying? 💀

[minor trout]

What the fuck that's the last guy I need for the penance

[strange wyvern]

oh, and they didn't fix that penance, amazing job rotund whale

[minor trout]

I was wondering what I did wrong

And all the posts I could find online were from before they released

Fuck

[nocturne dust]

You've been Fatsharked

[minor trout]

Hope they fix it later

[strange wyvern]

You did nothing wrong, they just need you to kill an enemy that doesn't exist anymore

[minor trout]

Yeah I didn't know that

So I was scratching my head

[nocturne dust]

Psyker moment

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[strange wyvern]

Me spending 3 seconds charging a brain burst just so the zealot one shots the crusher anyways

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

ggs all

@hearty wolf Lmao. IDK why I'm like this.

Sniper puzzle hard.

[glacial vapor]

This way

No this way

Oh, its this way

(It was the other way)

[strong gulch]

Stay losing the 50/50 puzzle. 😭

[flat nexus]

for purga bubble build is wild fire really needed or is it just good to have 🤔

[jovial juniper]

Good to have

Purga is a lot of soul blaze

So you'll be fine without Wildfire

Or just "double" down on it

Go wildfire

[glacial vapor]

My favourite is when there are two snipers directly opposite each other

Oh that's why I couldn't figure it out

[rich spindle]

I don’t use warp nexus on purg, so i use it as a way to get stacks faster

[plucky flax]

It can be drop but it's like 4 free stacks of soulblaze when elites out of range run up toward you.

[strong gulch]

TRUE. Getting clever girled is rough.

[rich spindle]

So how does reaper suppression from purg work anyway

Is it the soulblaze that suppresses them or the staff damage

Or both

[upper sun]

u were supposed to wiggle ur mouse to hook the sniper in brainburst

[jovial juniper]

Technically neither and staff damage

[upper sun]

the most important mousetechs of tide games the wiggle in the same general area and wildly singing your mouse around during attacks that ignore hitmass

[jovial juniper]

You see, check your cloud radius

When you M2 the staff projects a cone forwards

That cone has tons of suppression

[strong gulch]

I normally do. But I wasn't even sure where to look. When I got something about sniper sized, I was just ahppy to have gotten SOMETHING.

[rich spindle]

I see. So suppression is a separate stat from damage?

I never really paid attention to that mechanic before havoc

[jovial juniper]

Yes, every ranged weapon has a suppression value per shot and a suppression value on kill

Also suppression value on explosion in case of grenadier and such

[strong gulch]

Suppression, stagger, damage are all different.

[jovial juniper]

Flamer type weapons have a cone of suppression

So now if you picture enemies having 3 health bars

One for health
One for stagger
One for suppression

[rich spindle]

Does hitmass count for both cleave and stagger?

[jovial juniper]

Theoretically the flamer type suppression cone would "damage" the suppression healthbar

[rich spindle]

A mod showing suppression and stagger health bars would be cool if it was possible

[hearty wolf]

xD

If they were on the other side, they would be floating!

[strong gulch]

Things float or go to really odd places sometimes.

You never know lmao

[jovial juniper]

I'm not sure about the stagger part tbh

But until further instructions

No

Hit mass shouldn't affect stagger

Otherwise a Scab Rager (10 mass) would be harder stagger than a Dreg Rager (4 mass)

I think the vet guide talks a bit about stagger at the very bottom of the guide

The alternative is a jsat video about stagger

(haven't watched yet)

All the math and stuff under the surface is their own can of worms

[outer vessel]

What's wrong with bubble lately

it's literally unusable on my end, it's a dome of rainbow throwup that you cannot see out of

[jovial juniper]

It's a bug

The recommendation is turn your amd anti lag off

See if it helps

[broken carbon]

no

cleave doesn’t affect stagger at all

the only connection is a staggered enemy has .5 hitmass

[buoyant maple]

No

It scales based on stagger stage

Light stagger is x0.9 mass

Medium stagger is x0.75 mass

Heavy stagger (generally hard to reach vs important enemies) is x0.5 mass

[broken carbon]

yeah that

[jagged scaffold]

how good would you say warp speed is for gaze?

[jovial juniper]

It's completely and utterly optional

That's how I say bad but feel free to get it

[strong gulch]

Not needed, but feels good.

[prime elk]

Very good

Speed is good

• mettle

[jagged scaffold]

it was between that and one w the warp so i think ill go with the latter

[prime elk]

Lame

[marble crater]

Just... outrun the damage

[jagged scaffold]

i know speed is good but at the same time im not looking to min max cause its not like ill be able to use the speed at its best

[prime elk]

Min maxing is picking cringe tdr over speed

[jagged scaffold]

is it really min maxing if your taking less damage rather then take non

[prime elk]

Idk. I don’t think too much about it. I just charge forward and let my faith in the emperor do the rest.

[jagged scaffold]

based

[prime elk]

Indeed

The blood must flow!

[marble crater]

Blood for the Emperor, skulls for the Golden Throne!

[analog agate]

What does aoc stand for? I assume not what us americans use.

[marble crater]

Stands for Art of Conquest, stupid mobile game I started playing way too long ago and can't quit now because I like some of the people I play with

[analog agate]

Ah

[wispy bay]

According to the grande imperium, the Big E doesn't have much faith in psykers.

[marble crater]

Wasn't the Big E the biggest psyker humans ever had?

[upper sun]

already fallen to chaos 😭

[wispy bay]

Do what I say, not what I do.

[marble crater]

My beloved told me to do it

[upper sun]

😭

[wispy bay]

Asking too much question is how you become a heretic.

[upper sun]

rogal dorn was dragged around in a desert for 100k years and still refused to say one word of that sentence 😭

[marble crater]

100k years? How does that work?

Some "you experience time a lot slower" type magic?

[upper sun]

meme warp hallucination/parallel dimension

[wispy bay]

Dorn is dead, and it should stay that way.

[upper sun]

its not exactly explained but he just kept walking around in a desert for a very very long time and kept repeating his name so he doesnt forget it

[marble crater]

For 100k years? Is he stupid?

[upper sun]

yes

he legit kept repeating his name so he doesnt forget

[marble crater]

Why was he even there?

[upper sun]

khorn tried to tempt him throughout "say it blood.... blood for..... SAY it" in various degrees of volume tone and everything inbetween

he opened the wrong door or something in the palace

[marble crater]

And this was his punishment or an accident he ended up there?

[upper sun]

accident time and space were messed up during the siege of terra

warp gods were like ayo lets try dorn now even though horus flat out said no to anyone who offered to invite dorn to his side

if u liked this

theres more in the horus heresy!!!!

[marble crater]

Maybe I should read more about my hero

[tired estuary]

more like the bore us heresy

[upper sun]

give me like a year ill reread the horus heresy and remember whats good and whats not

legion is the worst book never read that

[marble crater]

I won't read any, at best I will listen to other people read it to me

[upper sun]

audiobooks????

my man

[marble crater]

If I should ever have the urge to listen to 100h of horus heresy or something, Warhammer has too much lore

[flat nexus]

does this = more soulblaze dmg or only the lmb and charge?

[marble crater]

Apparently it does increase it

But it's on the other side of all the soulblaze perks of a typical soulblaze build, so unlikely to be used together and not worth the points to get it

[flat nexus]

can get rid of the crit for it

ngl i dont know what to do with one point

i dont want it to be in wild fire

or 6th ws

[marble crater]

What's the build for?

[marble crater]

Kinetic Deflection is another better option

[flat nexus]

purga

[marble crater]

Also not sure if Empyric Shock and Perilous Assault are worth it, surely there are other better talents you can take

[flat nexus]

i dont have any points left

[flat nexus]

#psyker-class message they can be good when boos comes with elite waves, can practically get 31 soul blaze with it

[marble crater]

How are they helping with getting 31 soul blaze? They take more damage yeah, but it's still the same cap with or without the talents

If you are just spamming lmb instead of actually channeling the staff then sure, good to use I guess

[nocturne dust]

Empyric Shock and Perilous Assault suck

That scoreboard is just a staff doing staff things

[nocturne dust]

Wildfire

[rich spindle]

Is there a breakdown of stagger somewhere

How it reaches these stages

[buoyant maple]

soulblaze is not Rdmg

[midnight hull]

Guys , 5070 ti, or 9070xt . I wanted the 9070xt , but now they are both at the same price.

[blissful solar]

5070 ti probably

[buoyant maple]

your atk deals X stagger
to make an enemy staggered, this X stagger needs to surpass the enemy's stagger threshold corresponding to a stagger stage
let's say Y1 for light stagger, Y2 for medium stagger and Y3 for heavy stagger
heavy stagger has longest duration and most mass reduction

however, most enemies while they're attacking can have stagger reduction (commonly misunderstood as "stagger resistance")
this is a flat reduction from your attack's stagger, let's call it R

for an attack to stagger, (X-R) needs to exceed any of the Y values (equal won't stagger)
if that attack is a weakspot hit, R is reduced by x50%, so weakspot hits' total stagger would be (X-0.5R)
with falter blessing, it applies an additional x10% to stagger reduction, so weakspot hits' total stagger would be (X-0.05R)

any of the blessings or talents that increase impact modify X value itself
any of the blessings or talents that increase strength also modify X value itself
this comes in the form of:
total stagger = (base stagger)x(1+stagger)x(1+strength)

and to everything more complicated than they rly need to be,
every single stagger value listed in the in-game weapon inspect table is wrong

[midnight hull]

Why?

[blissful solar]

dlss better

[analog agate]

Dlss really is so superior to fsr

[blissful solar]

5070 ti is better (if raytracing is involved). equivalent if no raytracing it seems

[buoyant maple]

DLSS4 is cracked

[midnight hull]

heard the new fsr is almost as good , or is it still way better?

[buoyant maple]

DLSS4 upscaling is still mostly better than FSR4

[blissful solar]

https://youtu.be/YOyioXeWlig?t=2004

[buoyant maple]

but FSR4 is a massive jump from FSR3.1

[blissful solar]

time stamped for the perfect answer to your question

[buoyant maple]

5070ti is overall better than 9070xt and most of the issues come down to pricing

so if u can get them for the same price then it's kind of a no brainer

[blissful solar]

plus nvidia has rtx super resolution and rtx hdr to upscale videos you watch (only on compatible media players)

[midnight hull]

wow, watching yt vids through discord is fucking ass, click on vid , add playing, it auto skips ahead to the timestamp you linked, and it makes me watch 2 adds, lmao bruh. Fucking adblock doesnt work through discord

[buoyant maple]

with that said if you're on a relatively new GPU

I don't think u rly have to upgrade?

unless ur like, going from 2060 to 5070ti/9070xt

in that case go ahead

[analog agate]

Fsr is about equivalent to old dlss. Which is still good. But dlss4 is a whole other thing. The games look so crisp

[rich spindle]

ty brother

[midnight hull]

I have 2060 right now actually

Mainly deciding between this
https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/zotac+gaming+geforce+rtx+5070+ti+solid+sff+885474
And this https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/sapphire+pulse+amd+radeon+rx+9070+xt+gaming+grafikkarte+881360

[buoyant maple]

so to give an example
dreg rager has 50 stagger reduction during combo, and 10 light stagger threshold

assuming weakspot hit, u need >35 stagger vs maniac to be able to put a dreg rager into a light stagger state

medium stagger states usually are not too far off from light stagger states
however, heavy stagger threshold is usually much higher than both light and medium stagger

this is why ogryn's heavy hitter subnode for +impact is so strong because it enables heavy stagger breakpoints vs ragers

[blissful solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/544034067855966230/1370804648709062858/ooLzclG.gif

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-git-whats-in-the-box-gun-angry-gif-3561440

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-i-got-a-rock-gif-10605542

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-nightmare-before-christmas-jack-skellington-present-thats-the-point-of-the-thing-not-to-know-christmas-gif-19631285

[remote nacelle]

Anyone got a good havoc 40 build?

For space wizard

[nocturne dust]

The pinned builds are good, you just have to adjust them slightly by swapping in bubble

specifically for Inferno/Voidblast

[plucky flax]

What's this? Maybe finally new class in 2025?

Or just scam.

[upbeat kestrel]

Scam most likely

[nocturne dust]

I'm predicting a Hound event

[plucky flax]

Xd

[restive slate]

I like how Darktide players are so afraid to hope hahaha

[plucky flax]

Fartshart and new darktide class.

Never happen.

[glacial vapor]

A friendly hound event?

[plucky flax]

Best they can do is another rework of the same 4 classes.

[restive slate]

I wouldn't mind friendly npcs tho

[upbeat kestrel]

If we actually get a class its wild

But dont count on it

[upbeat kestrel]

Its just how it is

At least were not hd2 community

[restive slate]

What's going on there?

[glacial vapor]

If they replaced infiltrate with a cyber mastiff for the vet rework, I'm here for it

Won't happen though

[restive slate]

Though I heard they got new enemies and warbond recently

[nocturne dust]

Bruh, everyone was hopeful about the quell cancel nerf and then they did it in the exact wrong way I said they would 😭

[upbeat kestrel]

They actively hate theyre developers

[restive slate]

What about the SM2 devs and their approval of mods?

[upbeat kestrel]

Imagine community composed majority of tanners

[upbeat kestrel]

Idk. Not following the topic

[glacial vapor]

Now lets not go crazy

[plucky flax]

I don't have any hope for a new class.

[upbeat kestrel]

Good

[restive slate]

In the modding community a SM2 dev gave the keys to the players to make whatever mods they want essentially

[upbeat kestrel]

Ah

So?

[restive slate]

When everyone is Tanner... chuckles ...noone is.

[restive slate]

The fandom actually ...likes... their devs

[upbeat kestrel]

Heh

Ah

We have love-hate relationship with fatshark

I wpuld proble need to get back to sm2

[restive slate]

A lil Stockholm doesn't hurt

[restive slate]

Try the Astarted Overhaul mod if you'd like

[upbeat kestrel]

Nah

I prefer eldritch rituals needed to mod Fnv

[restive slate]

Fair haha

[minor trout]

At least we don't have arrowhead making the game

Fatshark sucks but I will take them over AH any day

[nocturne dust]

MMMMMMmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm idk

[minor trout]

Why so much mmmmm did u eat yummy food

[nocturne dust]

Isn't Arrowhead a pretty good dev?

[minor trout]

Hell no

[nocturne dust]

Well that seems a little harsh

[minor trout]

I said multiple times why I am not gonna repeat it again

[nocturne dust]

Well just link me to your old sayings and I'll do a lil reading

[minor trout]

Just look up any criticism arrowhead gets online most of them are deserved

At least I can progress normally while just playing darktide without being have to buy budget battle passes or run around trying to find monies

[nocturne dust]

Mmmm search engine only brings up stuff about the PSN linking

[nocturne dust]

Eh, Darktide's monetization isn't that great either.

[minor trout]

Making the only form of progression "warbonds", giving no true free content or progression whatsoever, hyping up big events months in advance just for them to be extremely underwhelming, making half the planets unplayable most of the time, breaking things every update then waste so much time just to fix them again

[minor trout]

It is purely cosmetics

On top of the penance and commissary ones

Miles better than arrowhead

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but you can't earn premium currency for free

[nocturne dust]

The last thing is also a Fatshark thing

[minor trout]

Just because you can mind numbingly grind for super credits doesn't excuse the fact that that's the only form of progression the game has

It is the only thing the game has to work towards, it should have been free to begin with, not random credit spawns you gotta rely on

[nocturne dust]

I'ma disagree and say that's perfectly fine, and you don't need constant progression

[minor trout]

Cool

[nocturne dust]

Darktide doesn't have constant progression

[minor trout]

I can buy every weapon whenever and level up their mastery

[nocturne dust]

Yes, I do too

[minor trout]

Every content in the game I can access without paying besides cosmetics

[potent echo]

Yea darktide has real variety, get bored with one build? There's like 20 more spread out across the other classes

[nocturne dust]

leveling mastery isn't progression, it's a tax

[fresh ledge]

I agree with this sentiment.

[minor trout]

It is progression.

[nocturne dust]

spend 500k dockets tax

[minor trout]

Getting currency by just playing then getting new weapons with that

[nocturne dust]

0 progression, you are done in 5 minutes

[minor trout]

Is progression

[potent echo]

Progression is there to trick you that there's game left to play

[minor trout]

Progression is there to fucking progress and see your game experience get further

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but weapon mastery ain't it

[minor trout]

If you played for years and did everything you like already then no shit there is no progression left

[minor trout]

It is something that passively happens and rewards you

[potent echo]

Skill progression

[minor trout]

It is literally progression

Talents are progression

[nocturne dust]

Only if you do it like that

[minor trout]

Even hestias blessings is progression

[nocturne dust]

but here's the thing: 0 reason to do it that way

[minor trout]

?????

[nocturne dust]

Why passively level mastery over a bunch of matches when you can immediately have it leveled in 5 minutes and a perfect weapon on top

[glacial vapor]

In some ways yes, some ways no

Their idea of balance makes Fatshark look elite by comparison

[nocturne dust]

That's pretty hard to achieve

What is this, Warframe?

[minor trout]

If you are so far into the game that you have so much dockets you can just buy a shit ton of weapons upgrade them then sacrifice them

[potent echo]

I feel like arrowhead don't play their own game, but neither does fatshark

[minor trout]

You progressed.

You been playing for ages.

[nocturne dust]

not really

Doesn't take that many matches at high difficulty

Havoc made that even easier

[minor trout]

That much play time in helldivers if you didn't get lucky with super credits or didn't dedicate time to grind

You made 0 progress, didn't gain shit

[potent echo]

Also hd2 caps are crazy small

[minor trout]

250 medals mmmm

[potent echo]

Can't even unlock one warbond lol

[minor trout]

So you have to grind more later when a new slopbond is out

[potent echo]

That's like if darktide plasteel cap is 5k

[nocturne dust]

Currency caps should be data type caps

[minor trout]

It is the most predatory progression and monetization I have ever seen in a game, if they were purely cosmetics fine I don't care, if the game had literally any other form of progression like maybe another free warbond I wouldn't care

But right now I have no faith in arrowhead and the fact that people act like this is the peak of gaming and monetization are crazy

[nocturne dust]

You need to play more games

[minor trout]

You already paid 60$.

[minor trout]

No

[nocturne dust]

[minor trout]

I played enough.

[potent echo]

Isn't hd2 only 40$

[minor trout]

Warbonds are not the awesome peak you think it is

[nocturne dust]

Fair, but also, there's many, many, many games with worse monetization

[minor trout]

Whatever it is

Sure if you think something like destiny 2

Which is like saying

It is better than the shit at the bottom of the barrel

[nocturne dust]

MmmmmmmMMMMmmmm, idk, I think that's just the difference between a dedicated grind and passive play being too wide

[minor trout]

Wdym you don't know it is factually a terrible system

[potent echo]

How about I throw a spanner and ask about DRG

Time gated progression

Only 3 overclocks per week (?)

I forgor the exact number

[minor trout]

They also reduce the stuff in warbonds just to add ugly recolors, give 2 armors and charge more for the third one in super store unlike the older ones, give only like 1 gun

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but DRG is amazing and cool and rock and stone

[minor trout]

While keeping the price same

It is dogshit.

[potent echo]

Biased

[nocturne dust]

that's fair

[minor trout]

And the game is still a bugfest and ragdoll festival

[nocturne dust]

but also

[minor trout]

What is that

[potent echo]

End game progression

[nocturne dust]

what's the name of that effect where you set the bar too high so everybody gets mad when you lower it

[potent echo]

It's like perks for your weapon

But it's gated per week

Not hours played

[minor trout]

Ah end game

Didn't get there

[potent echo]

Rip

[minor trout]

The bar wasnt even high

It is every 3 months

[potent echo]

DRG still the best "coop" for coop shooter

[minor trout]

The new armor perks are just muuuch worse versions of the old ones

[potent echo]

Others is just 4 solos

[nocturne dust]

Is beating the pants off Fatshark

[minor trout]

And putting the third armor into the super store

[nocturne dust]

[minor trout]

Darktide isn't a game drawn mainly off of an ongoing realtime story where players "contribute"

[nocturne dust]

And yet the disablers are rare

goated

[minor trout]

So I can excuse it a little bit I just treat it like payday 2 or l4d2

Which has like, no new content at all

[upbeat kestrel]

best coop shooter i know is GTFO

[minor trout]

Gtfo is too stressing for me

Den of the wolves save me

[upbeat kestrel]

valid

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Darktide has an ongoing story

but like

who plays it for the story

[minor trout]

Payday 3 is ass payday 2 looks like shit

[nocturne dust]

and who plays HD2 for the story? It's all memes

[minor trout]

Snail's pace it might as well not be there

[minor trout]

Everyone apperently that was the main appeal

[nocturne dust]

Something something democracy something something super earth

^ The plot for the next 10 billion years

[minor trout]

Helldivers 2 chumps getting their asses kicked by a bunch of robots and bugs for a year with no progress

Helldivers 1 chads finishing a whole war every 2 weeks

395th galactic war

Bugs completely eradicated in mere days

Where is that efficiency now, super earth

[nocturne dust]

Something tells me a new war every 2 weeks isn't really a new war

[minor trout]

The first game had a fuck ton of dlcs with weapons and armor and even that is better than hd2 for me cuz the game goes on sale like every other week and the game including all dlcs is dirt cheap

[minor trout]

It doesn't get any updates

If you eradicate all enemies the war starts over again

[nocturne dust]

I feel like that's unfair

[minor trout]

If you lose, super earth explode, we colonize another planet

[nocturne dust]

That's playing a game way late and it goes on sale

[minor trout]

It is really old, arrowhead was extremely tiny, time of the era blah blah

[nocturne dust]

That's not playing a game while it's having new content being added

[nocturne dust]

well, no

my point is just you're getting it on sale cuz it's old

[minor trout]

Helldivers 2 goes on sale too

Do warbonds?

Lmao

[nocturne dust]

Probably not, but you never know

[minor trout]

Even without all the dlcs Helldivers 1 has a ton of weapons and armor you get just by leveling up

And the armors are solely cosmetic

That's fine cuz dlcs aren't your only option for new content

Unlike hd2

[glacial vapor]

I don't love the warbond system with how bloated it's become but you can earn the currency in game just by playing

HD1 is regular dlc

[potent echo]

Me who stopped playing hd2 last year

[nocturne dust]

Doesn't HD2 have progression aside from Warbonds?

[potent echo]

There's no way I'm ever gonna grind all that ever

[minor trout]

That doesn't excuse it being the literal only form of progression and new content the game has

[glacial vapor]

And every warbond you buy gives you 30% of the cost of another

[potent echo]

It's even worse than darktide level 1 to 30

[minor trout]

The strategem unlocks stop at level 21 or smth

Sample upgrades barely do anything

[nocturne dust]

I mean

[minor trout]

And you can hit level 21 in like 3 days

[nocturne dust]

Darktide doesn't have anything once you're done

once you're done, you're done

[glacial vapor]

Sample collecting for ship upgrades, difficulties, weapon upgrades now

[potent echo]

There's plasteel gambling

[nocturne dust]

for wat

[potent echo]

Or ordo gambling now

[minor trout]

Difficulties isn't really progression

[potent echo]

For you 4x 80%

[minor trout]

Darktide has a skill tree you unlock, weapons you level up and upgrade

[potent echo]

I know alot of new player have no ordos

[nocturne dust]

That's like 300k dockets

barely an inconvenience

[minor trout]

Being done will take you ages

[minor trout]

Yeah cuz new

I have like 4k rn

[glacial vapor]

Working your way up difficulties is absolutely progression.

HD2s is just too low of a ceiling lol

[potent echo]

HD2 even without progression problem don't really have variety like DT

[minor trout]

It is just playing 1 mission on that difficulty to unlock the next

That's like the bare minimum

So that new people don't jump into the highest at first

Not there to be progression

[nocturne dust]

You might just be favoring Darktide due to that novel feeling

[minor trout]

Hell no

[nocturne dust]

like, I have a lot of reasons to dislike HD2

[minor trout]

I just despise hd2 and how blind people act towards it

[nocturne dust]

but Darktide has its fair share of horrors

[minor trout]

Putting it on a pedestal it doesn't deserve

[minor trout]

Sure does, and literally no one celebrates fatshark for those

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I never said HD2 was perfect

[minor trout]

People do

[nocturne dust]

but like, I'm not hating on Arrowhead any more than I do Fatshark

which, to be fair, is quite a bit at times

fricking quell cancelling, smh my head

[minor trout]

I hate arrowhead more cuz they are on a pedestal they don't deserve and show no signs of getting better

Fatshark is fatshark literally no one likes them

[plucky flax]

Uprising mortis trial for 50 trials done penance.

[glacial vapor]

The penance system, range of difficulties and modifiers, playstyle variety and combat put darktide above HD2 for me

It also breaks less believe it or not

[nocturne dust]

I still don't have the 20 minute mortis trial penance

[minor trout]

Absolutely

It breaks so less

[plucky flax]

It's 25 I think

[minor trout]

No random ragdolls either

[nocturne dust]

Doesn't it take about as long? That seems pointless

[minor trout]

I got to level 13 and got circle of trust 2

Is there even a pattern to it

[nocturne dust]

Most of your time will be spent running between single enemies

[plucky flax]

It can be done in malice difficulty I think as well

[minor trout]

When is circle of trust 3?

Every cutscene is just my guy standing there, listening to someone about something, then walk off like a toddler lmao

[nocturne dust]

Gonna be honest, I don't remember

It was a long time ago

[glacial vapor]

Malice gamers leave you to solo the trapper wave though

[nocturne dust]

but yeah, if you want resources/money

run damnation

if you can't handle damnation, just take Ogryn

They're so strong rn 😭

[plucky flax]

Bruh I am somewhere else not home and I am having 250 ping. D:

[minor trout]

But I don't like ogryn

[plucky flax]

Gonna afk and leech I guess.

[minor trout]

Just switch server

[plucky flax]

It's only uprising

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[plucky flax]

Pretty sure I'm still EU. It's just the free wifi here is bad.

[minor trout]

I play malice it is comfortable enough

[nocturne dust]

You don't have to be optimal about it

[minor trout]

It is like mayhem in payday 2

[nocturne dust]

But the grind will be longer

so up to you

[minor trout]

I don't grind the money just piles up

[nocturne dust]

It do, yes

[minor trout]

When I unlock all the talents and upgrade my weapons then I will go above malice

[plucky flax]

Me hiding in the corner I'm sure team will be fine

[minor trout]

Zealot penances are so straightforward unlike psyker

[nocturne dust]

You do you, just know that heresy can be harder than damnation

[minor trout]

Except "behind enemy lines"

Fuck that

Literally encouraging toxic behaviour lmao

[glacial vapor]

I jumped to heresy at level 25, felt fine

[nocturne dust]

because teammates in Heresy are the toxic, bad ones

[minor trout]

Why isn't it private party only

I don't want a guy going off on his own just to get a penance and then die

[nocturne dust]

I mean

going off on your own is pretty common outside of Havoc

gotta loot that loot

[minor trout]

Malice teammates are fun, they spent like 5 minutes looking around with me for a collectible my mod signaled

(we couldn't find it)

[glacial vapor]

Team immediately dies

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you ask you'll generally get that at any difficulty

There's also a mod that pinpoints collectibles

if you want that

[minor trout]

They also waited for me to get the skill of martyr

[nocturne dust]

Solo mode

[minor trout]

Nah collectible finder makes it fun while also being helpful

Well balanced

[nocturne dust]

I dislike collectible hunting so I use the pinpointing

If I wanted to play a scavenger hunt, I'd play a scavenger hunt game

[minor trout]

I like looking for them when I have something that tells me how close I am

And when I should look for it

Gonna play with a friend today hehe

A friend I made in hd2

[nocturne dust]

Keep your friends close so you can kill the heretics

[minor trout]

She is gonna start over we will just chill on the lowest difficulty

[plucky flax]

HD2 is cool but man I just prefer fps.

The shooting and meleeing hits so much harder in first person.

[somber echo]

what's the better of the three mini blaze force sword marks?

[glacial vapor]

Depends

Illisi has the best horde clear. Deimos and Obscurus have better single target

Obscurus has a tricky moveset though

[wraith sphinx]

new update is awesome but uh, it seems like the game has a cheater problem right now

I joined a difficulty 10 squid mission, some guy calls in 20 mechs at once, crashes my game

[glacial vapor]

Just a bug, not a cheat

[wraith sphinx]

Oh what

🥴

[glacial vapor]

I think you enter the stratagem code, hold the stratagem menu button, then spam the stratagem lol

Something like that, haven't tried myself

[autumn lark]

imagine if they allowed 2 mechs and reduced the cooldown of mechs to 5 minutes

[glacial vapor]

It would still be meh because Mech's are made of paper

But...

It would be better

[autumn lark]

you gotta use em smartly

theyre much tankier than youd think

[plucky flax]

Based

[glacial vapor]

Doesn't matter, if a harvester looks in your general direction, you explode

Nevermind bot rockets

[autumn lark]

yeah id wish they could tank heavier attacks

[glacial vapor]

If I had some way of avoiding or defending from these, that would be fine but you don't really

[autumn lark]

there is a 4 legged spider tank thing in the files

i just want to be able to be a mechdiver

[wraith sphinx]

If you have a shield backpack it absorbs some of the damage if its targeting the cockpit area

[deft stump]

You mean aimbots? Or do you mean legal cheats that shouldn't be allowed but still exists?

[wraith sphinx]

nope

turns out it's a new bug

[deft stump]

Seems like normal.

[weary crane]

Knife psyker with all the speed buff talents is insane

When you are in gaze and hit a marked enemy

https://tenor.com/view/flash-run-fast-gif-26117167

[quartz barn]

I used to do that with ds on gunker

Youre so fast that the ai cant keep up xd

[weary crane]

If i dodge of a ledge at max speed i will reach max possible velocity on darktide

[quartz barn]

Mfw you take fall damage because you overshoot the drop

[weary crane]

Servers so laggy its unplayable atm

They only work mostly in peak hours

[rigid sky]

I miss my duelling sword

FGS just feels too good for gunker though

[summer prairie]

Saw someone running this, pretty unique

[marble crater]

I hate it

[earnest sand]

Agreed how can you burn the world with that 😦

[molten estuary]

Yeah, shriek needs soul burn. I was on a zealot in Hab Drako, before I had a psycher, and watched a psycher vent into a 60+ min wave at the tree and soul burn wipe the entire wave 😂… I made my first psycher right after that match 👌

[torn kernel]

why

[safe merlin]

whats a good scriers gaze melee build?

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message something like this

[deft stump]

It has CDR without CDR and no peril gen for whatever reason.

Sounds like something I would do if I didn't just go EP for Assail.

Except dumping POTS and coherency radius for KD.

[torn kernel]

[deft stump]

Wat. You know my morning psyker builds will make ppl hed go boom.

[torn kernel]

tru

[blissful solar]

[minor trout]

Hmmm kinda wanna move to psyker again...

[rigid sky]

Become an omni-main :)

[minor trout]

Omni?

All I have is the trauma staff rn and I am not really enjoying it

[deft stump]

Plays anything.

[minor trout]

Brain burst feels lame, assail is too slow

[minor trout]

Oh nah

[deft stump]

Or everything.

Like, can fill whatever niche the team needs.

[minor trout]

I can't do that

Wish I could enjoy psyker the idea is fun

[patent mango]

new rogue trader devblog is out

[minor trout]

I gotta bear with trauma staff for now ig

[minor trout]

SHOW!

[patent mango]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/2186680/announcements/detail/523090745159059757?snr=2___

[minor trout]

Psyker has some of the best fashion too

[patent mango]

3 arbites specialties and 3 overseer pets

[minor trout]

NEW ORIGIN!!!

Idk what arbites is lol

[patent mango]

so if they wanna make an arbites class in dt it'd work out with the 3 specialties lmao

origin

idk lore wise

[rigid sky]

Try gunker if you don't like low level staves

Or wait till you get Inferno, that one works great even with shit rolls

[minor trout]

Nah dont wanna play gunker

If I want gun I can just play zealot

[rigid sky]

Psyker is way better with guns than Zealot

[prime elk]

skinny jeans and toilet bowls?

[rigid sky]

Zealot gets almost no gun support

Psyker with a gun is one of the highest dps builds

[minor trout]

It doesn't fit

Idc how it is gameplay wise

Mage with a gun isn't funny to me

[prime elk]

way more interesting than staffker lol

[rigid sky]

Battlements!

*battlemage

Enchanted bullets and sword

Plus unleashing The Bees

[minor trout]

Playing psyker and NOT using the magic feels weird

Won't bother

[rigid dust]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-willem-dafoe-creepy-weird-harry-potter-gif-23688638

[minor trout]

What is a good melee tho

[prime elk]

cringe

[deft stump]

Former never fits, latter is dumb.

[minor trout]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-willem-dafoe-creepy-weird-harry-potter-gif-23688638

[rigid sky]

For what staff?

[minor trout]

Wtf is this gif

[rigid dust]

thanks!

[minor trout]

Infernus

[minor trout]

Full leather suits and stuff

[rigid dust]

look up "harry potter with guns". It's....extensive.

[blissful solar]

american potter

[prime elk]

you're really not playing gunker, so you can play the most boring weapon in the game next to dueling sword lol

[rigid sky]

I like Deimos or Duelling Sword 4 with Inferno

[patent mango]

the big thing about gunker isnt really the gun lol

[minor trout]

Yeah

[patent mango]

its that they use gs really well

[minor trout]

Dueling sword? Really?

[rigid sky]

But when you do pull the gun out, it's crazy powerful

[prime elk]

it's about that boring

[minor trout]

Yeah I am not gonna play gunker feels redundant to play mage just to use guns

[prime elk]

your loss tbh

[rigid sky]

Everyone says that

[minor trout]

No I just don't see dueling sword fitting with a psyker

[patent mango]

weirdly it started as a psyker wep

[prime elk]

you do realize... DS was a psyker-exclusive weapon for ages

[rigid sky]

Give it a try in like 200 hours after you get more used to the game and want novelty

And it is typical for Psyker to use guns tbh

[minor trout]

I know, even weirder

[rigid dust]

Gunker is genuinely a lot of fun, I'm just over here RP'ing as one of the ME CoOp's n7 classes.

[rigid sky]

Since every time they use warp magic, they have a chance to kill everyone they love

[minor trout]

Not primarily, I doubt

[rigid sky]

Not even a small chance

[blissful solar]

our psykers are way too cool to worry about such things

[minor trout]

Our psykers have nothing to lose

[deft stump]

I mean, was why it was simply OP to the fact the avg psykers used to suck in melee.

[rigid sky]

True lmao

But still

[deft stump]

Now everyone just beeg sword.

[rigid sky]

You can see Gunker as the game's secret 5th class

That you get to level up for free as a bonus with Psyker

We get 5 (or more with mods) build slots for a reason sibling

[minor trout]

You have like infinite talent slots no?