literally doesn't matter
#psyker-class
nocturne dust
blissful pulsar
No no, it isn't cause balance. Its cause it'd be op on psyker and thats a no no
blissful pulsar
Also I want flail, I miss the flail :(
tacit minnow
i just wanna use an aoe staff that isn't the trauma staff man
nocturne dust
Inferno is right there
tacit minnow
or inferno
nocturne dust
Also
weary idol
i just wanna use an aoe staff that isn't the trauma staff man
nah we're not allowed to have cool 40K unique weapons GW said so
nocturne dust
Voidstrike is an AoE
weary idol
here have a new shovel
tacit minnow
fine, i want a horde clear staff that isn't inferno or trauma
nocturne dust
Voidstrike is a horde clear staff
tacit minnow
fireball staff's actually perfect
nocturne dust
Voidstrike is a jack of all trades 
weary idol
kills carapace too
nocturne dust
It's not the best at anything, but it works in any capacity... except bosses
weary idol
It's not the best at anything, but it works in any capacity... except bosses
I have a staff that can kill bosses 😎
nocturne dust
then they made it a cripple
No no no
They hit it once
and then twice
and then thrice
nocturne dust
Stages of cripplehood
weary idol
would take a thousand pre nerf voidstrike staves over inferno being meta ever
I hate playing with the flamethrowers in the tide games
nocturne dust
But I love Inferno 😭
dull scroll
I have a hardon for DoTs, I'd inferno vent every game if it weren't for the fact you don't bring bubble pubs can't win games
balmy kestrel
I have a hardon for DoTs, I'd inferno vent every game if it weren't for the fact...
Idk I don’t usually need bubble to win games
nocturne dust
Idk I don’t usually need bubble to win games
They're talking about Havoc 40
dull scroll
Idk I don’t usually need bubble to win games
heh you playing with pro people then, pubs I find drops like fly in 40s without bubble
nocturne dust
No need for bubble if your team is good
Your team:
Of course, when I say good, that's probably like the 1% of Darktide players
balmy kestrel
My friends haven’t started havoc yet because they ain’t even doing aurics yet
nocturne dust
Fair
I'm not a difficulty junkie so I don't always play Havoc
although, with the amount of time I have these days, I don't think I've played any Darktide since I ran with Agent, which was like a week ago?
balmy kestrel
I usually play whatever difficulty my friends wanna do which is usually heresy
nocturne dust
Heresy is an easy place to get stuck
strong gulch
Does T4 still get cursed sometimes?? Like 20 ragers out of no where??
weary idol
They're talking about Havoc 40
I feel like even there bubble should theoretically be less necessary due to higher quality of players
nocturne dust
I feel like even there bubble should theoretically be *less* necessary due to hi...
well, you're wrong
Who said the quality of players follows the difficulty curve?
dull scroll
bubble, or at least smoke, is always needed if you want to have any consistency at winning 40 pubs
it's a hard truth learned from countless 40 pubs
strong gulch
Who said the quality of players follows the difficulty curve?
Right? Look at this evidence. #psyker-class message
dull scroll
but I still spam vent since I can't derank 😏
polar flower
Psyker Supremacy
signal anvil
I'll cash app $10 to anyone that can help out with malleus monstronum
jovial juniper
Hah
jovial juniper
I'll cash app $10 to anyone that can help out with malleus monstronum
@upper sun
Or
@deft stump
deft stump
<@229302123391614976>
I'm on holiday. I would help when I'm back late tomorrow or Wed or so.
Unless someone wants to get me a gaming laptop for trips.
deft stump
I'll cash app $10 to anyone that can help out with malleus monstronum
If you are willing to wait till Wed, I'll help no cost.
nocturne dust
balmy kestrel
this question will sound stupid but what’s the best way to get a traditionally “spellblade” built for psyker?
nocturne dust
Hhhhmmm define spellblade
because there is gunker
which is meleeker
but they use, y'know, a gun
deft stump
https://tenor.com/view/kenny-were-the-millers-you-guys-are-getting-paid-will-pou...
You know I literally do not care and will just help. I'm just on holiday.
nocturne dust
I'm just joking
signal anvil
If you are willing to wait till Wed, I'll help no cost.
either way would be awesome, been sitting on this for years now lol
nocturne dust
I'd help but I'm indisposed currently
balmy kestrel
Just good melee and staff
nocturne dust
Weeeeelllll it depends
Any build is going to have you using both your weapons, that's what the game is designed around
deft stump
either way would be awesome, been sitting on this for years now lol
That's the only thing. No gaming laptop for trips. My school laptop can barely run 3 vs 3 WC3 so out of the question lmao.
nocturne dust
You could do Force greatsword and voidstrike, both weapons are generalist that can handle multiple situations, and you would have assail on top for even more generalization
balmy kestrel
Yeah I think lowkey I’m being dumb and my build is already just that
balmy kestrel
You could do Force greatsword and voidstrike, both weapons are generalist that c...
Oh good point, I usually run brain burst but that seems good as well
nocturne dust
It really depends on how much you want to melee
nocturne dust
Oh good point, I usually run brain burst but that seems good as well
You can look in pins for the voidstrike build
balmy kestrel
I see
nocturne dust
I recommend the ballspam one, as that is closer to meleeker
balmy kestrel
I usually run the Obscurus force sword
jovial juniper
I'm on holiday. I would help when I'm back late tomorrow or Wed or so.
Oh right
You're Lost in Japan by Shawn Mendes
signal anvil
That's the only thing. No gaming laptop for trips. My school laptop can barely r...
lol i get it, if we remember by then id love the help
thanks either way though
deft stump
Oh right
You're Lost in Japan by Shawn Mendes
Less lost, more ded cos heavy rain in Okinawa means nothing to do but go shopping. Like to the Pokemon Center.
balmy kestrel
Though the one time I ran the force greatsword recently I got frenzied killer (3) with it
nocturne dust
Oh right
You're Lost in Japan by Shawn Mendes
"Find me in the future!"
deft stump
"Find me in the future!"
To be fair, I am 1 hour ahead further than usual.
nocturne dust
slightly less in the future
deft stump
No. More.
JP is like 1 hour ahead of SG.
And you know SG is GMT +8.
Is 12:29pm JP time, 11:29 SG time.
summer timber
do you guys know if the "enhanced blitz" modified on maelstroms has any effect with psyker blitz?
like i know for other classes it means more ammo for their nades but im confused abt what im getting on psyker
balmy kestrel
do you guys know if the "enhanced blitz" modified on maelstroms has any effect w...
It gives assail more charges at least
summer timber
It gives assail more charges at least
i havent used assail in mael yet
balmy kestrel
Not sure about brain burst or smite tho
summer timber
i usually use smite and cant tell much of a difference since EP smite does a good amount of damage anway
but ive been using more BB and this is the first time im using it with the modifier
i was just curious lol
balmy kestrel
Maybe it’s a charge reduction?
summer timber
Brain rupture is complete ts
he doesnt know
balmy kestrel
Brain rupture is complete ts
TS?
balmy kestrel
he doesnt know
He doesn’t know
summer timber
"this shit"
polar flower
Smite and assail are better at clearing crowds than most primary and melee weapons and brainrupture is worse at single enemy targeting than alot of primary and melee
balmy kestrel
Inferno staff is my goat for everything tbh, it does work
That and brain rupture with bubble
verbal thistle
BB is nearly infinite range and auto locking
and if built properly can be amazing boss dps
jovial juniper
do you guys know if the "enhanced blitz" modified on maelstroms has any effect w...
Only affects BB and Assail
No change to smite
Peril cost reduced by 50% to BB and Assail, assail get 2 extra ammo
nocturne dust
and if built properly can be amazing boss dps
BB propaganda
Due to buff durations, it will never be amazing boss dps
weary idol
and if built properly can be amazing boss dps
it can be okay boss dps
summer timber
Smite and assail are better at clearing crowds than most primary and melee weapo...
its a DPS boss killer and like a mini sniper with infinite ammo
nocturne dust
its a DPS boss killer and like a mini sniper with infinite ammo
it's not
nocturne dust
It may be meant to be one or both of those things, but it is neither, yes
summer timber
Peril cost reduced by 50% to BB and Assail, assail get 2 extra ammo
thats cool for bb, i had a feeling smite was nada
jovial juniper
Smite so strong Fatshark doesn't want to touch it
First enhanced blitz
Then mortis Trials
summer timber
it will break the poor xbox players even harder
everytime i use smite and a big hoarde comes in mael or havoc they are always quick to crash
nocturne dust
Do you have motion blur on 
jovial juniper
Everybody has motion blur on
That's how darktide is
You have to go to settings
Then turn on and off
nocturne dust
Yes I turn off
jovial juniper
(or just set ini and stuff)
nocturne dust
is bad
dull scroll
Do you have motion blur on <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
mine is 100% natural 😏
nocturne dust
motion blur is like wiping a window clean just so you can put some smudges on it
nocturne dust
mine is 100% natural 😏
🤮
That explains why I couldn't watch your other video for long
which reminds me
I am at 15 minutes 
nocturne dust
Updato
Motion sickness 🤢
Idk if you're even doing the rapid sweeping properly, doesn't look like the stacks are applying faster than when I just hold it
dull scroll
the stacks don't apply faster of course, but you set more mobs on fire
sturdy reef
oh you have the flame staff vfx mod
nocturne dust
the stacks don't apply faster of course, but you set more mobs on fire
if your aim is to do that, you can sweep way slower
which is what I do
nocturne dust
The rapid sweep is to try and game the system for faster stacks
very hard to do tho iirc, I never bothered
sturdy reef
just gotta raise your pinky
nocturne dust
sturdy reef
remote nacelle
does anyone use brain resonance instead of flayer
remote nacelle
and *instead of*?
the 10 chance to insta delete a elit
sturdy reef
flayer is a more of "I have a point left" type talent
sturdy reef
I dont think its bad
remote nacelle
im liking my havok 40 bubble/inferno set up but i feel it can be so much better
sturdy reef
it can work on havok depending on comp
dull scroll
for me personally if I HAVE to ditch one I'd ditch KF 😏
dull scroll
kinetic resonace is nice on empowered psionics
KR and EP are very bad together, lots of duplicate and lost values
sturdy reef
true
remote nacelle
this is what im running for bubble inferno
nocturne dust
It is a build
remote nacelle
yeah but idk if i need to change perks for H40 or its fine the way it is
nocturne dust
Isn't that what BM is?
dull scroll
it's fine
nocturne dust
Yeah, it's way more decent than some of the other builds posted here, lol
sturdy reef
hey
nocturne dust
Battle Meditation is eh
sturdy reef
dont u bad mouth my crystalline will meme do nothing
nocturne dust
and PotS over ER is a choice
sturdy reef
I take PotS over ER for flame staff too
nocturne dust
but like, sufficient preference over meta if you like 🤷♂️
nocturne dust
I take PotS over ER for flame staff too
Only useful for Shriek
sturdy reef
ehhh
sturdy reef
I usually stay around 75% anyway
nocturne dust
sturdy reef
I am
nocturne dust
ew
nocturne dust
"free damage"
lags 0.01 seconds and explodes
sturdy reef
I havent blown myself up even with 100+ms yet
sturdy reef
a lotta wfh at my home
nocturne dust
If your ping is wonky like mine, it can believe you let go and then register you holding it down still as a new input, thus murdering you
sturdy reef
who wants to worship a pusbag smh
sturdy reef
nurgle for sure
remote nacelle
so its fine i dont need to change anything?
nocturne dust
idk, the classic image of emps looks pretty moldy
sturdy reef
Id ditch battle meditation
nocturne dust
so its fine i dont need to change anything?
need is a strong word
remote nacelle
Id ditch battle meditation
and take what
nocturne dust
soulstealer
sturdy reef
yeah
remote nacelle
aight
zealous mango
The clips of cancel swap animations with Karsolas is insane
Never thought it was possible
deft stump
lol, looks like all the cool psykers take KR 😂
Good thing am not a psyker main.
minor trout
How do u inspect weapon like that
deft stump
How do u inspect weapon like that
Others in lobby? Mods.
deft stump
Probs the same, mods.
minor trout
Wtf thats crazy
deft stump
Wtf thats crazy
Mods show too much info at times tbh. Leads to extra things some ppl use to insult others.
atomic swan
How do u inspect weapon like that
Hold X iirc
zealous mango
Like in the thumbnail
Hold X if you on keyboard
deft stump
Oh, that inspect. I thought you mean inspect other player weapons.
zealous mango
minor trout
Oh, that inspect. I thought you mean inspect other player weapons.
Yeah the one on thumbnail lol
It is like essential for fps games at this point
minor trout
Hold X if you on keyboard
Yay
deft stump
Yeah the one on thumbnail lol
I'm on limited data. Like more limited than usual.
zealous mango
I still don't know why they made the inspection so slow in comparison but oh well
deft stump
I still don't know why they made the inspection so slow in comparison but oh wel...
Knoife best.
flat nexus
The clips of cancel swap animations with Karsolas is insane
.how does one do it
minor trout
I'm on limited data. Like more limited than usual.
Ah, happens
deft stump
Ah, happens
I'm on holiday so...
minor trout
At least I can go outside!
deft stump
At least I can go outside!
I'm literally in JP. So out nearly all the time lul.
minor trout
Make the vacation worth it
marble crater
Akiba all day, every day
deft stump
Make the vacation worth it
I mean, I went to Sushiro, got Robin pick. Annoyed GF with too many codes she can't use cos limited use.
deft stump
Akiba all day, every day <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Is Okinawa. Not Tokyo.
minor trout
I mean, I went to Sushiro, got Robin pick. Annoyed GF with too many codes she ca...
Dunno anything about any of those words here
marble crater
Dunno anything about any of those words here
That's normal, don't worry about it
deft stump
Dunno anything about any of those words here
Is a Star Rail x Sushiro collab thing.
deft stump
That's normal, don't worry about it <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Shush.
minor trout
Is a Star Rail x Sushiro collab thing.
Ah
deft stump
Ah
I missed the SG one with Genshin like last year, would have gotten GF a Kokomi thing tbh.
minor trout
She isn't there?
deft stump
She isn't there?
Nope. She comes over once in awhile to visit but yeah.
minor trout
You are in Japan often?
deft stump
You are in Japan often?
No. This is just a holiday. She visits me when I'm back home lul.
minor trout
Ah
blissful solar
nocturne dust
lol, looks like all the cool psykers take KR 😂
Correction: all the stupid ugly and icky psyker mains
zinc atlas
whats the dump stat on inferno staff?
deft stump
whats the dump stat on inferno staff?
Warp resist.
mossy slate
are the warp bee grenades any good for long term including max level even if i find them fun to use myself?
or well warp needles
glacial vapor
Assail shards?
deft stump
are the warp bee grenades any good for long term including max level even if i f...
Yes. Got buffed. Only cost is no psykinetics.
mossy slate
Assail shards?
yeah those guys
mossy slate
Yes. Got buffed. Only cost is no psykinetics.
nice!
glacial vapor
They work fine at high diffs yeah, typically in gun builds though
jovial juniper
are the warp bee grenades any good for long term including max level even if i f...
Their only weakness is carapace
So yeah you can main them
glacial vapor
Or flame staff if you're feeling spicy
mossy slate
edgy heart
It is like essential for fps games at this point
is it 
is nice to have sure, idk about essential
deft stump
is it <a:nomnomnom:981624715154169867>
When you have paid weapon skins...
edgy heart
even then
i pay for skins, dont think ive used the feature once xd
i can already see it on the pov
deft stump
But not clearly enough.
edgy heart
guess yall care more than me xD
deft stump
I dunno. I bought a hat I can't even see.
edgy heart
same
except i can
3rd person mod op, guess thats why i dont care about weapon inspect
deft stump
3rd person mod op, guess thats why i dont care about weapon inspect
But it's really awful to play with, last time I saw Ainz mess with it.
edgy heart
i like it, i probably play 3rd person more than first
deft stump
Probs a taste thing. But worse accuracy.
minor trout
3rd person mod op, guess thats why i dont care about weapon inspect
WHATS A THING?
OMG
edgy heart
yeah
perspectives i believe
or something like that
i might not care about my weapon, but my zealot is drippin
nocturne dust
Probs a taste thing. But worse accuracy.
We're psykers
Since when has accuracy concerned us
deft stump
Since when has accuracy concerned us
Stares at VoidStrike.
You ppl keep telling me to dump blast radius for better accuracy at blasting weakspots.
nocturne dust
well no
blast radius has nothing to do with accuracy
it does not effect ball size
only end explosion size, and end explosion does nothing
deft stump
only end explosion size, and end explosion does nothing
It staggers more things.
I think.
nocturne dust
It does, but only if you hit the floor around your target
which is worthless
next-to-worthless, really
deft stump
It does, but only if you hit the floor around your target
Wouldn't it proc on crushers as well?
Or well, shoddy angles that ends with you hitting the floor or wall through hordes.
rigid sky
End explosion is big enough with 60 tbh
deft stump
End explosion is big enough with 60 tbh
Nu. Beeg gud. Heh.
nocturne dust
Wouldn't it proc on crushers as well?
yes, but it ain't staggering crushers
deft stump
yes, but it ain't staggering crushers
Oh no, everything around it.
nocturne dust
And also the AoE is trash with or without dumping blast radius
so no
not anything around it
deft stump
And also the AoE is trash with or without dumping blast radius
So we just need lethal prox and oggy nodes for it.
nocturne dust
So we just need lethal prox and oggy nodes for it.
no, because that's investment
deft stump
no, because that's investment
I would do it and you know it.
nocturne dust
Imagine investing an entire build into a single thing just to take it from horrendously awful to mediocre at the best of times
stares in brainburst
deft stump
Well, KF needs a halved cd.
nocturne dust
KF isn't a bad node
but it's not BB
Especially since it gets weapon blessings and perks
and also only triggers on enemies you wouldn't oneshot
and also enables PC/Psykinetics
none of which BB does because, y'know, you have to stop doing everything else to use it
strange wyvern
Especially since it gets weapon blessings and perks
wait kf benefits from weapon perks?
patent steeple
none of which BB does because, y'know, you have to stop doing everything else to...
I used to run both KF and BB buffs like KR, but only on builds where my ranged weapon didn't have enough reliability killing specials from very far away (aka staff builds, because my aim with the LMB projectile is awful at that distance)
deft stump
KF isn't a bad node
Is the only reason BB isn't f tier.
weary idol
It still is. KF just makes it higher F tier than Kraks
deft stump
It still is. KF just makes it higher F tier than Kraks
Yes and it having lower or no CD will totally be nice.
patent steeple
btw, which blessing would be better to pair with Inspiring Barrage on Shredder as Caxe Meleeker: Cavalcade or Blaze Away?
weary idol
if you give KF no cooldown with it still proccing on soulblaze psyker will be game breakingly overpowered
Like they're just plain old overpowered in need of a nerf currently
If KF had no cooldown they would turn the game off for everybody else
patent steeple
if you give KF no cooldown with it still proccing on soulblaze psyker will be ga...
or on a scuffed BB Gunker build...
wraith sphinx
Kf only feels weak on a bb gunker
deft stump
Well, halved CD basically.
strange wyvern
if you give KF no cooldown with it still proccing on soulblaze psyker will be ga...
just make BB itself suck less lmao
deft stump
No CD should be a Mortis thing though.
wraith sphinx
I think the point tax of getting bb and sg both should be enough to dissuade any reasonable players from trying it anyways
rigid sky
BB is a tool, not a weapon
wraith sphinx
Weapons by definition are a type of tools
strange wyvern
BB is a tool, not a weapon
combat axe is also more of a tool and it's still disgusting
ogryn pickaxe is a literal tool that obliterates
rigid sky
I mean, like, it isn't really your plan to brain burst as a priority, but you often get targets annoyingly out of staff range or moving around too much, and if you can't rely on your team to deal with them, it can be a good option.
nocturne dust
I mean, like, it isn't really your plan to brain burst as a priority, but you of...
Literally only Inferno
deft stump
Hate to break it to you.
Naw, F+ with KF.
nocturne dust
and even then, I would take assail if not for BB's position in the tree
nocturne dust
Naw, F+ with KF.
Nope, F. KF isn't BB, just like Wildfire and Psykinetics aren't
Yeah, BB is in the way
dull scroll
rigid sky
I like brain rupture in inferno and voidblast
rigid sky
VB there's no reason, just lmb
Laterally moving targets. Ability to precook. Just easier to hit in general.
nocturne dust
Laterally moving targets. Ability to precook. Just easier to hit in general.
I could miss 90% of my shots and still be faster on LMB than BB
Accuracy don't matter if it takes you ages to do anything
deft stump
I could miss 90% of my shots and still be faster on LMB than BB
Unless 400 ping.
GL with projectiles.
nocturne dust
Unless 400 ping.
Well, high enough ping means I ain't hitting anything with anything
rigid sky
Accuracy don't matter if it takes you ages to do anything
Exaggeration tbh.
nocturne dust
Exaggeration tbh.
Not.
deft stump
Well, high enough ping means I ain't hitting anything with anything
BB works, as does hitscans half the time.
Projectiles just do 0 damage.
nocturne dust
BB works, as does hitscans half the time.
You experience lag differently than me
BB does not work
Nothing does
weary idol
at least BB is infinite
weary idol
staff bash is good with warp splitting and charged strike 👍
nocturne dust
deft stump
staff bash is good with warp splitting and charged strike 👍
Is hilarious.
Ask Hamdol.
nocturne dust
staff bash is good with warp splitting and charged strike 👍
I understand why you don't use staves now 
dull scroll
I could miss 90% of my shots and still be faster on LMB than BB
post some gameplays, let us see this magical aim of yours
analog agate
Like literally lmb is faster at any range
Think you are disregarding enemy density/evasive bombers.
nocturne dust
Think you are disregarding enemy density/evasive bombers.
I mean, without the use of mods BB isn't really better through density and can't target through walls to hit stupid hiding bombers
deft stump
And you have to rate things without mods unless you are basically dumb.
nocturne dust
post some gameplays, let us see this magical aim of yours
It's not magical, my aim is awful. BB takes 1-3 seconds. In that time, you can easily spit out quite a few LMB without any cancelling. It's an easy calculus.
The difference between BB and LMB in a mass of enemies is very little, BB's main advantage is when the coast is clear and you can just sweep across an area for that lone trapper running at you
whereas LMB you'll have to actually point and stay pointed at the trapper
Again, ignoring mods, which are fair to have but also something that should be left out of discussions of balance unless we're talking about the balance of mods vs no mods or another directly-relevant topic, which we are not
deft stump
whereas LMB you'll have to actually point and stay pointed at the trapper
Or prefiring to where she is moving to.
nocturne dust
I mean, yes, but that's honestly not too hard
I wouldn't even bother using BB/LMB on trappers anyway
upper sun
<@244173531129053194>
cant
nocturne dust
Trappers run at you
and you have infinite cleave
The math is easy
I reserve BB/LMB for enemies that won't run at you. So, basically just bombers, snipers, and maybe a gunner/reaper in a bad spot
marble crater
wraith sphinx
I could help out with mm in a couple hours
rigid sky
You can also murder a Crusher from far away with BB
glacial vapor
Eventually
wispy bay
I run BB with KF and EP (no upgrade) on some build for the extra random damage on elite and the BB charge speed that needed to kill some long range targets.
Mostly run with Inferno.
nocturne dust
You can also murder a Crusher from far away with BB
You don't have any reason to, though, and are unlikely to do so before it gets into range
unless you spend buffs on it
the buffs that have a short duration and you need for more important things
wispy bay
The higher the difficulty, the worse it becomes.
nocturne dust
those buffs
wispy bay
Killing crusher with BB can almost put you on max peril.
While spending like 15 seconds for 1 kill.
zinc atlas
Struggling a lot to deal with range while using inferno. BB seems to be too slow and leaves me vulnerable at melee range. If there’s a shield available I get that I can close the gap but that’s not always the case and also the shield can break faster than expected. I’ve only recently started using this build. All this time (in my ~50 hours) I’ve basically played EK stuff and these situations have never been an issue. But I want to learn the inferno playstyle as well.
prime elk
Struggling a lot to deal with range while using inferno. BB seems to be too slow...
Try assail maybe
Or just walk up closer
nocturne dust
Struggling a lot to deal with range while using inferno. BB seems to be too slow...
Use cover and slide
marble crater
Dodge
zinc atlas
Try assail maybe
Yeah I thought about it but the pathing and the fact that I miss on soul blaze stuff makes me think I’m gimping myself further
nocturne dust
Use the horde to hide you as well
nocturne dust
Yeah I thought about it but the pathing and the fact that I miss on soul blaze s...
you are
Assail is nice, but weaker for Inferno
rigid sky
Struggling a lot to deal with range while using inferno. BB seems to be too slow...
Just gotta deal with the clunkiness of BR. It gets better the more used to it you get.
rigid sky
I mean that is true, as inferno psyker your job is the shit you can reach
Oh, you can Shriek as well for midrange
nocturne dust
Your choices are basically: slide, dodge, cover, Empathic Evasion, shriek, shield, and finally, BB
BB is last for a reason
upper sun
If ranged kills you, blame the vet
if ragers kill me blame the ogryn
nocturne dust
I think bb is fine
You are bad at the game
proper osprey
nocturne dust
upper sun
BB is fine but it falls off in havoc
proper osprey
You know what happens to people who are mean to me
nocturne dust
BB is fine but it falls off in havoc
no
It's mediocre at every difficulty, if not worse
strong gulch
BB is fine but it falls off in havoc
That's how you summon Ainz or VECT.
nocturne dust
You can always kill anything quicker with so many tools
proper osprey
I only use it for disablers / gunners
upper sun
That's how you summon Ainz or VECT.
its ok theyre asleep
glacial vapor
It's mediocre at every difficulty, if not worse
Nah, it's peak at Sedition
nocturne dust
The literally only time to use BB is when you can't hit the thing with anything else
nocturne dust
Nah, it's peak at Sedition
So you say. Can I introduce you to revolver?
Or EK
or Vraks
proper osprey
People who use bb for cara are silly
nocturne dust
Or really any gun
proper osprey
Das what uncanny is for
@nocturne dust for being mean to me I’m gonna lock you in asmongold’s house
nocturne dust
I apologize I meant no offense
proper osprey
nocturne dust
I only spoke the truth
proper osprey
I only spoke the truth
Me when I lie
proper osprey
marble crater
That's where everything is buried
proper osprey
Imagine doing this to somebody
Infinite cockroach duplication glitch working 2025
Unpatchable
nocturne dust
Actually I got it wrong
FyreStone is so good at the game they don't need meta
which is why they don't know what is good
nocturne dust
and you have to add garlic
nocturne dust
Thoughts on this fish?
dull scroll
The difference between BB and LMB in a mass of enemies is very little, BB's main...
That's only one of the main advantage, the real advantage is the fact you can lock and forget on mobs, which is extremely self evident in my own and others videos. LMB requires you to hit literal headshots without miss to even compete, which is practically impossible with mobs moving and dodging left and right from suppression
proper osprey
Tbh I’m never using bb in a horde
nocturne dust
That's only one of the main advantage, the real advantage is the fact you can lo...
It would be... if you couldn't immediately kill the enemy with LMB
dull scroll
like these mythical LMB without quell canceling, I'd really need to see videos
proper osprey
Only to pick off
nocturne dust
excuse me
do you think LMB sucks without quell cancelling?
It was a viable build before the cancel craze
dull scroll
do you think LMB sucks without quell cancelling?
conmpared to BB? especially KR BB? absolutely without a doubt
nocturne dust
conmpared to BB? especially KR BB? absolutely without a doubt
wow
dull scroll
it's all words here, just post gameplay videos
nocturne dust
it's all words here, just post gameplay videos
I will literally go LMB spam an Auric, you go BB spam an Auric, and we see who wins
dull scroll
I will literally go LMB spam an Auric, you go BB spam an Auric, and we see who w...
Auric LOL, well in that case I will just spam assail and I win
proper osprey
Aoe bb
nocturne dust
Auric LOL, well in that case I will just spam assail and I win
Bet
I mean, I don't have the option of playing Havoc 
Nobody plays it these days
cuz it sucks
dull scroll
but honestly, even in auric, especially due to the fact BB one shots everything in auric, your argument is still sus af
proper osprey
cuz it sucks
Cuz ur bad
dull scroll
I don't know for sure since I haven't touched auric in months
nocturne dust
Cuz ur bad
Yes, very bad, I need meta to survive 😭
dull scroll
but I know for a fact LMB has got nothing on BB in 40s
nocturne dust
but honestly, even in auric, especially due to the fact BB one shots everything ...
It doesn't
Lmao, BB needs buffs to one-shot in normal dam
Not on everything
And BB won't be one-shotting crushers or bulwarks
nocturne dust
but I know for a fact LMB has got nothing on BB in 40s
Well, you're just wrong
proper osprey
Yes, very bad, I need meta to survive 😭
I tried non crit zealot with crusher and a did nothing and died 
dull scroll
Nobody plays it these days
I have 40s, we can queue up anytime, don't be shy
nocturne dust
I have 40s, we can queue up anytime, don't be shy <:whatthefuck_heresy:104972444...
wat server r u
proper osprey
So now I run crit crusher
dull scroll
I'm West, but I can play East np
proper osprey
nocturne dust
I'm west
dull scroll
there you go
nocturne dust
We should play sometime
plucky flax
Reject burga embrace bubble knight
dull scroll
we should, and you better start recording 😏
dull scroll
perfect
mossy slate
what psyker leveling talent tree should i go with?
i think my current one is outdated
glacial vapor
what psyker leveling talent tree should i go with?
Usually just right side until you get deeper into the tree
mossy slate
Usually just right side until you get deeper into the tree
does left side include the assail needles?
glacial vapor
But yes, assail side
glacial vapor
Once you get deeper into the tree, you get some nice buffs for staffs
mossy slate
mossy slate
Once you get deeper into the tree, you get some nice buffs for staffs
nice i have been using a revolr, but mabye i should switch back to staves?
glacial vapor
Up to you, you're deep enough you can use a staff no problem
Worth grabbing soul stealer at the top too
7.5% toughness on warp attack kill is great
summer prairie
pick mind in motion again
mossy slate
mind im motion?
summer prairie
it's one of the nodes you've picked in that image
mossy slate
ah
alright i spend all my current talent points
what is the best psyker staff?
for both long, mid and close range?
proper osprey
All of them are good
marble crater
Elektro or Voidblast
proper osprey
For the route your going I’d go electric
glacial vapor
They all have their strengths
Fire staff will feel meh on lower diffs
analog agate
Though if you are leveling voidstrike or EK will serve you well
jovial juniper
For all 3 ranges?
All except inferno
glacial vapor
Voidblast is also shit until you deck it out
EK feels great out of the box
But you've gone the wrong side for a staff build lol
glacial vapor
You can just copy the meta build for each staff until you unlock it all, if thats the route you want to go.
Left side with shriek, right side with scriers
proper osprey
I’m able to turn my brain off against bon
mossy slate
EK?
marble crater
Elektro staff
glacial vapor
Shrieks nice until you get used to edging your peril
proper osprey
so EK for my build?
Melee psyker because of those right nodes
glacial vapor
Revolver good
mossy slate
so Las pistol?
proper osprey
You can use ek or any gun with finesse
glacial vapor
Psyker does benefit from high fire rate, high crit chance weapons though. Like recon las or Infantry autogun
proper osprey
so Las pistol?
That, revolver, infantry auto, recon las
proper osprey
Ek is fun because you don’t have to worry about ammo
analog agate
You can also use voidstrike for your current build as well
mossy slate
true
mossy slate
got cha
proper osprey
Hose them with electricity
mossy slate
thanks again guys ^^
upper sun
I like ek for beast of nurgel
i like u for u
analog agate
For your general question to “what staff is best”. EK is best non havoc staff. Inferno is best for havoc unless you are good with voidblast then it is right there with it
proper osprey
what should i use? i currently use blaze force
that’s good any melee weapon works with melee psyker
proper osprey
And going back to the best staff yeah inferno is the best
4 million damage in havoc
Wif shrike
glacial vapor
Farming damage from healing aura
marble crater
Any weapon can deal 4 million damage if your team is bad enough 
upper sun
this entire section had zero enemies
proper osprey
Farming damage from healing aura <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
So real
I pray the dot reaches them
And pray my psy aura gives zealot his book instantly
Havoc 101 keep the psyker alive
Not really doe
Wanna do an all vet havoc
Or try melee psyker havoc again
analog agate
Yeah. Normal dmg for psyker in havoc is 1.3-1.8 million or so. Past that your team sucks or it is healing mod
summer prairie
if your team is good you might not even be top dmg with purg
narrow herald
Hose them with electricity
Another person becomes a Smyker because of you 😞
plucky flax
Ogryn can do a lot of damage. Vet can too.
Zealot it depends on how much ammo he uses on flamer
prime elk
laughs in relic blade
plucky flax
Pure melee damage ogryn is clear.
narrow herald
Pure melee damage ogryn is clear.
Clear what? 🤔
narrow herald
Clear from zealot. <a:SadgeCry:927346529725976586>
The only reason I don't hate the guts of Psyker
Is because Zealot exists
proper osprey
Another person becomes a Smyker because of you 😞
proper osprey
got cha!
If you’re looking for a good force sword I like the illisi with uncanny strike + riposte, flak + maniac, with warp resistance dump stat
mossy slate
If you’re looking for a good force sword I like the illisi with uncanny strike +...
nice, is that hard to get?
analog agate
Well, until you are flush with money. Yes
proper osprey
nice, is that hard to get?
The right roll that as 80 in everything but warp res at 60 kinda
mossy slate
huh
proper osprey
You gotta gamble for the right roll
After that it’s just leveling it up and putting the blessing and perks on it
@young cliff weren’t you the one who brought the tac axe into havoc?
I vaguely remember talking to you about it
plucky flax
Try to get warp res as low as possible whilst others at 80
Something like <50 would be decent
young cliff
<@491347588012965930> weren’t you the one who brought the tac axe into havoc?
In a low end, 23 or lower iirc, it works surprisingly well in practice at that havoc and in a mock test for H40 vs a band of like 6 ragers,
It NEEDS the perk that turns block stamina cost into peril but it can clear hordes with quite a lot of safety (maybe more than the illisi FS)
patent steeple
Something like <50 would be decent
I myself always ugprade to 500 weapon level (max stats), so I tend to have 60 warp res either way.
my reasoning is simple: I use a mod that lets me name my weapons, and if I don't sort them all by power level, they use their default names for the alphabetical order sorting, thus confusing me... (I also forget to scroll down to the bottom of the list if I want to find a specific weapon...)
proper osprey
It NEEDS the perk that turns block stamina cost into peril but it can clear hord...
I was gonna say it might far better on melee psyker, melee psyker is a challenge on havoc but fun
Wanna use something else besides the fgs or ds in havoc
For melee psyker
Combat axe?
young cliff
Meleeker is totally capable in havoc, but needs other tools to face the challenges, and yeah, I used Taxe with gaze, surprisingly good work
proper osprey
@plucky flax how would scries combat axe fair in havoc?
plucky flax
<@150967101836886016> how would scries combat axe fair in havoc?
I dunno probably okay I don't play gazer in havoc.
young cliff
High havoc as so many sheep that you need more the staffs, so the other skills are more useful for offense and defense
proper osprey
I can test it there
young cliff
Datatide can set you a H40 game with the stacks to try
proper osprey
I see
patent jacinth
Isn’t there a mod that lets you have dd in the meat grinder?
Turn invisibility on and off
Or just spawn shit and then fight it with invis off
rigid sky
Anyone got a good Electrokinetic staff build? Maelstrom and below is fine, don't need havoc specific tweaks
Ah, just saw one in the pins :)
rigid sky
Is it worth taking the increased damage to electrified targets if I go Smite?
zinc atlas
Do I need to complete my assignment to progress on havoc or can I do any higher level and still get ranks?
burnt holly
Do I need to complete my assignment to progress on havoc or can I do any higher ...
any higher level
zinc atlas
Is it worth taking the increased damage to electrified targets if I go Smite?
I personally rarely use it even when I spec to it and when I do it’s not for long enough for the 10% to make a difference. (I think 😅)
If anything in my mind the extra jump is more useful
rigid sky
I personally rarely use it even when I spec to it and when I do it’s not for lon...
I'm talking an Electrokinetic build here though
iirc it applies that damage boost on RMB'd targets too right?
zinc atlas
Same
rigid sky
idk if that would help with monstrosity damage or something?
zinc atlas
I don’t think smite is meant to be used in monstrosities
rigid sky
No but electrokinetic
zinc atlas
I thinks smite works best when it’s use for a couple of seconds to get you to the team out of a pickle
rigid sky
The staff gets the same bonus right? From the wording
rigid sky
It's all targets I electrify, according to the text.
But text in this game is often misleading
zinc atlas
Someone else should be able to answer that
What do you drop for that potential 10% though?
Cause that’s important
jovial juniper
Is it worth taking the increased damage to electrified targets if I go Smite?
If you're planning on using smite for damage, yes
rigid sky
If you're planning on using smite for damage, yes
I'm planning to have it boost my electrokinetic staff itself
does it do that
jovial juniper
No, they removed that interaction ages ago iirc
rigid sky
right, all I needed lol
I will skip it for warp charges then
or whatever I dumped out I can't remember now
zinc atlas
Does soulblaze crit?
jovial juniper
No
rigid sky
Does soulblaze crit?
Nope, but inferno staff does crit and gives bonus soulblaze stacks when it does
but soulblaze itself does not crit
nocturne dust
You can get 100% EE uptime with a gun like Vraks Infantry Auto or Recon Lasgun
prime elk
Tfw psyker has better ranged resistance than what is supposed to be the ranged shooter class
nocturne dust
I mean, the majority of psyker builds don't
and even the ones that do, you're dead as soon as you have to reload
prime elk
The one that’s the closest analogue to vet does tho
nocturne dust
I'd definitely prefer Vet's toughness to psyker's ability to maybe not take damage sometimes
nocturne dust
new staves when..........
upper sun
1 blocked message
nocturne dust
1 blocked message
autumn lark
or a power axe 😭
guess what
upper sun
what
patent mango
no more weapons imperium forgor the rest
upper sun
no
patent mango
all weapons forgotten
weary idol
dual force daggers
kerillian
zinc atlas
Is havoc profress shared between characters?
strong gulch
yes
wooden sand
Profress
upper sun
praytell
prime elk
I'd definitely prefer Vet's toughness to psyker's ability to maybe not take dama...
Sure but now you have vet stamina and lose all your infinite cleave and AOE sources of damage.
weary idol
Sure but now you have vet stamina and lose all your infinite cleave and AOE sour...
shredder spam
prime elk
It turns out classes are good at different things <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Yeah vets great at being a checks notes ammo dispenser. Truly a top four class. 🔥
rich spindle
They’re good at yellow too
prime elk
shredder spam
That and VOC are all that are preventing vet from being the fifth strongest class in the game
prime elk
Smoke is shit
Plasma makes me fall asleep
I’m surprised that anybody can play it for a full forty minutes
strong gulch
How does gifs not have Steve from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs holding his hads up covered in "yellow"?
prime elk
Smoke is good at high tier havok
If you have a second vet
prime elk
But who the fuck wants a second vet
prime elk
Even if youre the only
Yeah sure give up the one truly good blitz, and then path all the way across back the tree for survivalist
Really selling it
wispy bay
If the 1st vet has survivalist, do you need to run survivalist as well?
sturdy reef
There is enough ranged to justify smokes
And it performs well
Captains and the ranged twin dont shoot/throw mines. In bubble they still will
strong gulch
@patent mango In abiotic factor while fishing, what does it mean when a shadow just keeps moving around your bobber in a wide circle but never bites. Wider than normal fishing.
prime elk
If the 1st vet has survivalist, do you need to run survivalist as well?
No, that’s why I said second vet could run smoke
prime elk
And it performs well
Sure. Not the meta pick though. I don’t give a shit about havoc and even I know that lol
marble crater
<@207108276192673793> In abiotic factor while fishing, what does it mean when a ...
Means the fish is smart and bored, maybe
patent mango
<@207108276192673793> In abiotic factor while fishing, what does it mean when a ...
huh? never had this happen to me
wher r u trying to fish
strong gulch
wher r u trying to fish
||Canaan. The "fresh water" sections. Like the swamp. It does it in some other areas too.||
I've tried different kinds of bait.
patent mango
maybe its bugged and needs insulated rod for those too?
strong gulch
I'm using that rod and I have level 15 fishing.
strong gulch
did u try rejoining
I reloaded the server and still the same. Light doesn't change the outcome either.
patent mango
scary fishy spin...
regal harness
whats a good Curio Blessings and Perk combo
regal harness
and the perks?
upper sun
1 tough 1hp and1 stam
prime elk
All wounds 
rigid sky
Main utility of HP is that it stops you from instantly dying to two poxburster pops
strong gulch
😭
Weapon dumps maybe.
Maybe get Warudo to write the gunker post. Stream of consiousness style would be funny.
I still have big sword adive saved,
strong gulch
hordes lllh elites heavy spam
sometimes i do lllh for elites anyways cause theres hordes too (might be peak on high buffs)
h1 l4 overhead spam good when im on high buffs to 1 shot gunners faster (l4 wont 1 shot on havoc)
h1 l4 for scab captain shields always idk why it just seems to do it well
whenever theres ogryns and at least some horde i wanna do special even at half essence to max malefic and get 1 shots
max special is best against gunners/shotgunners
sometimes i try to get some essence from the special slash melee portion but thats goofy with hits cancelling it so idk
bulwarks can frick off so just open them with either max essence wave or pa
i always do the funny sprint attack against separated 1 shottable elites cause it cool
ermm
light spam is ok if theres gunners mixed in horde
and ur at high buffs
whenever light goes to bottom left the follow up is heavy stab so its good to frick over some random elite if they're annoying you as you horde clear
max charge is also funny for staggering all the ragers
not that they'll have much hp after
h2llh2 also exists idk ig its cool to get some horde clear done together with ogryn clear
h2 stabs are peak for rager murder and cspawns
idk if i can yap anything else this is all for mk6 idk how much is useful eithe
weary idol
Yeah sure give up the one truly good blitz, and then path all the way across bac...
https://imgur.com/a/O1FT7vx smokes completely trivialize twins on havoc because they turn off Rodin's AI
prime elk
https://imgur.com/a/O1FT7vx smokes completely trivialize twins on havoc because ...
Yeah that’s cool. I think smokes have great utility, but many other things let them down
I want to like them
brazen compass
I'd agree with normal content, where Veteran is a powerhouse
In Havoc, you're basically support
Yell at your teammates to make them feel better and help them by making them not see. Because they can't see, neither can the enemies.
nocturne dust
🎵 Havoc is inherently unbalanced 🎵
brazen compass
Easier to put some multipliers on things to ramp them up or down than to rework the whole system
regal harness
🎵 Havoc is inherently unbalanced 🎵
its not a skill issue when you spawn 2 bosses and the twins the moment we step out of the safe zone
weary idol
Yeah that’s cool. I think smokes have great utility, but many other things let t...
https://imgur.com/a/qp1lKq2 like what
they also enable you to play stupid aggressive into ranged enemies because they are literally an infinite health psyker dome that you get three of
nocturne dust
its not a skill issue when you spawn 2 bosses and the twins the moment we step o...
I hate that everyone defaulted to talking about balance in Havoc 😭
weary idol
they also last 30 seconds while psyker dome on even auric damn lasts maybe 8 seconds
weary idol
honestly the ability sucks ass and using it more myself I am confident that anybody who uses or "needs" it has a skill issue
bubble is a crutch that people use to avoid learning the game no different than DS
nocturne dust
Sure
prime elk
https://imgur.com/a/qp1lKq2 like what
Bad pathing? Not being able to take the best source of AOE damage, infinite cleave and stagger?
nocturne dust
but that's below Havoc 30
weary idol
it gets exponentially more that the higher havoc you go
because it won't last through larger swarms of shooters
and will force you to play without it more often than not
and if you are a bubble reliant player you will not live
nocturne dust
It has an invulnerability period after taking damage, and its 'health' isn't really health but # of hits
so it doesn't care about the damage of any hit
nocturne dust
and if you are a bubble reliant player you will not live
Sure, but bubble does allow you moments of untamed aggression
which is why it is meta, is actually improves your DPS by letting you DPS instead of worrying about bullets flying at you
strong gulch
Things can be a comfort pick too.
nocturne dust
I know gunker semi-commonly can just ignore bullets
but the rest of the team can't
broken carbon
I hate that everyone defaulted to talking about balance in Havoc 😭
holy true
nocturne dust
and neither can staffker
broken carbon
rare meow and void agreement
weary idol
which is why it is meta, is actually improves your DPS by letting you DPS instea...
if you are worrying about bullets flying at you you are out of position
and should be playing around or near cover
my 2nd most played is vet, followed by ogryn
gunners are not a problem if you are not an idiot
nocturne dust
rare meow and void agreement
weary idol
on old havoc yes they were a problem because one stalker instantly kills you before you can blink
nocturne dust
if you are worrying about bullets flying at you you are out of position
You can still worry about bullets flying at you
weary idol
on new havoc it's a skill issue and bad habits that you need to unlearn
nocturne dust
while being near a corner
weary idol
though even on new havoc I'm pretty sure Reapers have wallhacks
nocturne dust
Like, for one, there's only so much space you can run away
weary idol
Reapers specifically are still an issue on new havoc for me, and no other ranged enemy is a substantial problem
nocturne dust
especially if you just dropped down a ledge
weary idol
tanky, high stagger resist, frequently just decide to shoot through walls
very cool enemy
weary idol
I do but you know what happens? Because it happens with bulwarks too
broken carbon
https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-gif-23893070
weary idol
the first hit of the force sword push attack gives them a minor stagger
which gives them stagger resistance that makes the actual push attack not knock them over :)
broken carbon
which gives them stagger resistance that makes the actual push attack not knock ...
yeah
:(
weary idol
stagger resistance shouldn't be on bulwarks at all
regal harness
I hate that everyone defaulted to talking about balance in Havoc 😭
oh and lets not forget the super speedy melee twin, i feel like sometimes he just teleports
weary idol
if stagger is going to be their primary source of conterplay
broken carbon
oh and lets not forget the super speedy melee twin, i feel like sometimes he jus...
she moves super fast
nocturne dust
which gives them stagger resistance that makes the actual push attack not knock ...
it's almost like stagger immunity was a rushed and incomplete solution
broken carbon
it's almost like stagger immunity was a rushed and incomplete solution
hmmm i wonder what this could be in reference to
i remember that !
nocturne dust
i remember that !
broken carbon
stagger resistance shouldn't be on bulwarks at all
bulwarks getting light staggered by gunners/shotgunners behind them so they don’t attack or get staggered by ur attacks
makes me
despair
mental grail
it's almost like stagger immunity was a rushed and incomplete solution
I fucking hate stagger res so much it's unreal
Omfg
weary idol
bulwarks getting light staggered by gunners/shotgunners behind them so they don’...
yeah and then I'm playin exe bolter vet
nocturne dust
I fucking hate stagger res so much it's unreal
You will embrace the damage meta
nocturne dust
weary idol
so nothing happens
regal harness
and lets not forget rituals, sometime i don't know how the rituals radius is, sometime its across the map and sometimes its lclose
verbal thistle
vt mentioned?
broken carbon
hi ainz
weary idol
half the reason Voidblast staff is my favorite is bulwarks
verbal thistle
weary idol
I use it over a gun on gun psyker when I get particularly sick of them
regal harness
shot the elv
weary idol
And even when I'm not particularly sick of them I'm running Bolt Pistol because of them
broken carbon
You *will* embrace the damage meta
the issue is damage will always be meta, stagger doesn’t matter if the target is dead
also stagger BPs are really hard to build for
nocturne dust
VT2 attack speed meta
🎵 Tale as old as time 🎵
broken carbon
the only stagger BP people ever build for is ragers
and even then that’s just taking greivous wounds on zealot
not taking a stagger blessing
ogryn is really the only class that can make it work
nocturne dust
the issue is damage will always be meta, stagger doesn’t matter if the target is...
Definitely haven't complained about this exact problem and provided a theoretical change/fix in this exact Discord in this exact channel
😇
broken carbon
not taking a stagger blessing
(see: crusher getting slaughtered and it immediately becoming meta over a stagger BP)
broken carbon
Definitely haven't complained about this exact problem and provided a theoretica...
was i there for that
if i was then i do not remember
nocturne dust
Uh, probably not
broken carbon
Definitely haven't complained about this exact problem and provided a theoretica...
i think honestly fixing a lot of the super OP weapons, and curbing the power creep, would seriously help with the damage meta
it’d still be meta, but by nerfing things like DS4 and karsolas, to the point where you can’t kill a crusher in like half a second, being able to stagger enemies consistently would gain significantly more value
broken carbon
i think honestly fixing a lot of the super OP weapons, and curbing the power cre...
i honestly believe the only weapon that should be able to one shot a crusher is thunder hammer
and branx pick
nothing else should
maybe the evis with the chastise trick
but that’s really it
consistent and easy one shots should only be thammer n pick
that would allow crushers to be spread out more and not always have to be in packs of 6 to have any effect
broken carbon
i honestly believe the only weapon that should be able to one shot a crusher is ...
(one shot/kill in less than a second)
weapons like knife or DS with high mobility need their damage nerfed significantly, to encourage usage of their mobility and as a weapon with weaker but fast, precise attacks
to put them in a niche of like death by a thousand cuts
nocturne dust
what was ur solution then
It was my discussion with Path about stagger BPs and immunity. My idea was to do away with the current system and instead scale stun time to stagger value (animations being adjusted in play speed for the different times, and switching to harder stun animations if long enough), with stagger resistance being added after each stagger in quick succession that would reduce the stagger value applied to the target, and thus the stun time.
weary idol
to put them in a niche of like death by a thousand cuts
mmmm
how "death of a thousand cuts" are we talking here
broken carbon
how "death of a thousand cuts" are we talking here
like 700 damage per hit i guess
so about 4-5 hits