#psyker-class

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nocturne dust
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not really, no

glacial vapor
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Are they just bringing back all the old shitty modifiers people complained about?

nocturne dust
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50/50 it's a bug

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since no announcement

glacial vapor
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Moebians were out before the announcement last time iirc

plucky flax
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Blight anti melee modifier. Pus anti range modifier. Much fun

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At least there's no pus skin this week at least it seems that way

summer prairie
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ah it's logistratum+station, no silo

wraith sphinx
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did they readd blight spread?? when?

summer prairie
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it's not a bug, they are rotating every 3 weeks and it has been 3 weeks

wraith sphinx
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oh

nocturne dust
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ew

wraith sphinx
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but yeah what agent posted is a terrible modifier combo

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except if maybe tox gas was added into the mix

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hurry to deal with dh ritual then die of corruption because the ritual site will be swarming with corrupted poxers and tox gas so you'll die of corruption dmg šŸ˜„

brazen rampart
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Toughness grace period refers to a flat damage reduction you get when your toughness is broken.

minor trout
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That's not what the other guy said

marble crater
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Toughness gets broken, you take less damage for a while. That's all you need to know KEKW_ogryn

wind wind
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I hate this KEKW_ogryn

late sphinx
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anyone got that trauma staff build

wraith sphinx
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man

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FS should really swap perilous assault and souldrinker as a joke

marble crater
plucky flax
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Hmm kind sucks there's no pm chat for this game

upper sun
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anyone remember if you get hit while being hounded?

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i recall not but i wanna be sure

deft stump
wraith sphinx
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oh

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so like /whisper or something

deft stump
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Yes.

dull scroll
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Fatshark ingame social is dogwater

wraith sphinx
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it's nothing to write home about for sure

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however it's nice you can share friend codes and join strike teams without having to friend people

dull scroll
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also funny enough whether or not someone accepts a friend invite doesn't matter because the act of sending an invite gives them the exact same amount of limited capability as someone on a friend list

upper sun
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when are we getting a bar?

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i have 11mil dockets with nothing to spend them on

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i wanna buy my striketeam stuff :3

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šŸ¤” I dont think itll be that bad if we could use dockets to buy starting stims(non healing) like a blue yellow or red stims

deft stump
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Yu just want everyone to suffer the effects of BoN's vomit all the time.

upper sun
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nooooooo

deft stump
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Like the glitch someone made me do in DRG so perma drunk.

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And then they proceeded to suck at the game and now i need to carry while perma max drunk in DRG.

upper sun
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noooo drinks only after game 😠

tired estuary
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no, drinks

plucky flax
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Had twins + captain + bonbon at the same time last round. PeepoHappy

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Maybe havoc condition in maelstrom would be okay training wheels for people wanting to step up into havoc. Or don't like havoc but want a bit more challenge.

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Even with a lot of enemies you are pretty tanky in normal mode so would be like a fun relaxing mode.

drifting steeple
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playing rogue trader made me realise how theoretically the Mourningstar's size could be

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we should have an operation thats just the prologue of that game lol

plucky flax
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The area we roam should only be a tiny section of the ship.

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Traders' ships can be massive in size.

drifting steeple
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oh yeah

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especially since Brahmns is very (rightfully) unhappy when rejects go in restricted areas

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but like a heretic invasion or uprising amongst the rabble in the Mourningstar would make an awesome set up for a mission

marble crater
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Wouldn't they just vent our section of the ship and be done with it? KEKW_ogryn

drifting steeple
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well i mean like, another section of the ship

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i get what you mean though

plucky flax
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Is rogue trader good game? I heard the combat sucks balls.

drifting steeple
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🤷

plucky flax
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I like dos2 and bg3 combat.

drifting steeple
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i am not the person to ask, i dont even like crpgs

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i am planning to play more rogue trader though

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i will say that the combat is grid based

marble crater
plucky flax
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I'll just play more bg3.

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Get some gooner mods.

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And... goon.

marble crater
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Play Expedition 33 chadgryn

drifting steeple
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i also want to play more of that

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i am buying a new controller just to play it lol

marble crater
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You will need it for all the dodging and parrying

drifting steeple
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i only have a ps4 controller and it doesnt show the inputs

marble crater
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No inputs ever?

drifting steeple
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no i mean

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it shows xbox buttons

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not playstation buttons

marble crater
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So you are buying an xbox controller, right? KEKW_ogryn

drifting steeple
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third party controller

marble crater
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Gamesir? pogryn

drifting steeple
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8bitdo

marble crater
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Not familiar with them, just heard the name

jovial juniper
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At some point you get so strong that only the bullshity gimmicky boss fights can stop you

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Screw act 3 and act 4

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Yesterday my Argie hit an enemy with a CRIT
400+ damage

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The enemy had like 30 max hp

jovial juniper
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Woops, I'm proccing perils of the warp and shit every now and then
Now I have 56 movement points
I can walk the entire battlefield

wraith sphinx
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I can't comment on rogue trader being a good or bad game but it made me realise I don't want to play crpgs anymore

plucky flax
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Why? BG3 is gud

plucky flax
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Uuh like ff? Third person exploration?

marble crater
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Like the older Final Fantasy yes, but you can dodge and parry enemy attacks during their turn

plucky flax
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Sounds imba

marble crater
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Kind of if FF and Dark Souls had a baby

upper sun
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bros..............

wraith sphinx
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And I'm not crazy about dnd

plucky flax
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Tru. Gameworkshop should beg larien to make crpg in warhammer fantasy.

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Would be extremely cool.

upbeat kestrel
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i would give a lot for fallout 1 and 2 remake being made by larian

zinc phoenix
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the writing is in general well done and the quests are fun

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but whenever you have to do a battle or interact with the levelup screen it is a tedious chore

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and the cutscenes are low quality altho they continually swear they improved them

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but theyre essentially the same as the "cutscenes" during missions in age of empires 2 back in the day where you'd get units moving around in scripted ways with dialog bubbles

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so its basically the exact opposite of BG3 in every way

marble crater
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"exact opposite of BG3 in every way" is a great and devastating insult actually loregryn

upbeat kestrel
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owlcat games are good

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BG3 is just another league

marble crater
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So good other devs complained and told us we shouldn't expect this kind of game

loud girder
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doubt most crpg devs can afford larian's budget lol

plucky flax
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They are independant though so it's their own money. Not from big company like microsoft/ea/ubisoft etc.

loud girder
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true but they're still leagues ahead of the rest

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in terms of money and manpower

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regardless of the source of income

upbeat kestrel
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owlcat is still indie no?

loud girder
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they are

upbeat kestrel
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and larian is AAA

loud girder
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they are not AAA at all lol

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they are self published and dont answer to a bigger company

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they are just a really successful indie studio

plucky flax
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Cd project red is also indie pog

loud girder
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are they anymore?

plucky flax
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They have public stocks but they are not under anyone

loud girder
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cyberpunk release still got ruined due to shareholders despair

plucky flax
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Can't wait for cp 2 and witcher 4 flop then become good after 1 year whatthefuck_heresy

loud girder
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fool me once shame on u fool me twice shame on me smile

cloud night
strange wyvern
plucky flax
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What's cp?

jovial juniper
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Cod Points

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Cyberpunk

plucky flax
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Why he mad?

jovial juniper
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[deleted by admins]

strange wyvern
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It's so over

drifting steeple
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what can you find on someone's hard drive that can land them in jail?

jovial juniper
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Red Hot Chilli Peppers

plucky flax
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Only dirty people think about that.

dull scroll
deft stump
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Many ppl in specific Discord got mass banned over it relating to their games already.

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Destiny CheckPoints, Geometry Dash Creator Points.

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For example, cos they just used the unfortunate shortform even if what they meant is clearly just innocent.

plucky flax
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Based.

fringe garden
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Oh, joy, got Auric Storm Survivor completely unexpectedly. The best way.

marble crater
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Congratz

deft stump
plucky flax
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AI ruining everything.

deft stump
strange wyvern
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Is unstable power worth running? The max strength you get is 8%

strange wyvern
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because every random squad has 1 or more zealots with a foreign concept of teamplay

fringe garden
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Smite is the moral of the story

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I am an unrepentant smite and bubble whore, as needed depending on how unskilled my team is

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Like if everyone is just smashing, I wont bother CCing so much. But... I have no qualms about holding smite as long as I have to to keep noobs and myself alive lol

prime elk
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It’s ok

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There are better options

fringe garden
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For which weapon?

strange wyvern
fringe garden
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Are you sure you looking at the max rank version?

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Because it is definitely 20%

prime elk
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Yeah I think they just fucked up a bunch of descriptions

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But the blessing itself is unchanged

strange wyvern
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fak shart text

fringe garden
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I've actually found myself using deflector more in Havocs and Auric Maelstroms. It's just kinda comfy and the offensive picks for the slot aren't just overwhelmingly great on the FGS. Unstable, Shred w/e. All are good, but the sword really does function fine as long as you have wrath at a minimum.

prime elk
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i don't even run wrath

strange wyvern
prime elk
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you might need wrath in havoc though

strange wyvern
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out and about rn

fringe garden
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Yeah, you're probably right that I dont need it in anything other than Havocs

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But I am lazy. Maybe I'll just make a whole other sword for non havocs

idle lotus
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does fgs require sum specific build or can i run it on w/e

fringe garden
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FGS is strong enough to be good no matter what you do with it, honestly

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But you can greatly emphasize it with builds and the right blessings

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Disrupt Destiny alone makes FGS a monster

strange wyvern
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Zealot chat KEKW_ogryn

prime elk
idle lotus
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I can do that with alt f4 chadgryn

prime elk
prime elk
fringe garden
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The push attack into a poke is my favorite thing in the world

idle lotus
fringe garden
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Also, the push attack can stagger an enemy thats like... 10m away

prime elk
fringe garden
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Scriers Gaze and Disrupt Destiny, SG is the damage dealing ultimate and DD is the damage dealing keyston at the bottom of the tree

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All right side, yeah

idle lotus
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Isn't bubble better for havoc?

fringe garden
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I run an SG build from time to time, but the utility of the bubble is my go to

prime elk
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for havoc you can run bubble

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imo bubble is totally unnecessary outside of havoc

fringe garden
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Just depends on who you run with

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If you are doing pub games

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then.. bubble can ensure victory consistently

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Regardless of your team

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If you have people you trust then it really doesn't matter what you do lol

idle lotus
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ye i run pubs all the time

prime elk
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i only quickplay, SG is really good at carrying pubs

idle lotus
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bubble gives me some safe space from shooters that're hard to deal with sometimes with voidblast

prime elk
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because they can't die if everything's already dead šŸ‘

fringe garden
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I know, I know. And some people are genuinely so good at the game that that is true

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It's terrible general advice for the average player, though

idle lotus
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warp res dump stat right?

prime elk
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yes

fringe garden
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On the FGS? Oh yeah

idle lotus
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damn

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ran out of diamantine

fringe garden
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Time to slay then

wraith sphinx
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Do the communicator event too

idle lotus
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i aint goin anywhere near havocs with this shit dawg KEKW_ogryn

wraith sphinx
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Do you have any other classes with more playtime

light solstice
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Hello, I’m not sure whats the best blessing on a dueling sword for my gunker build, I’m hesitating between the one that give 20% Crit on dodge and the one that give 60% finesse damage on dodge

wraith sphinx
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Discard their weapons you dont use and you can get some modest diamantine

light solstice
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Any advice?

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Feels like the Crit is better but not sure

idle lotus
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uncanny and precog I'd assume but dont know

analog agate
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Uncanny riposte

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Precog is good if you can consistently proc and get timed hits in. Easier said than done

light solstice
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Alright thank you very much

nocturne dust
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Yeah, riposte

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It also combos better with Psyker nodes like EE and mettle

light solstice
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Btw I’m going to ask, is it a waste to use 15% sprint efficiency on one relic?

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I like to have high mobility on that build but I’m reading contradictory stuff

weary idol
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vet suffers a lot in their stamina deprtment

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oggy has absurdly bad sprint efficiency on most of their weapons

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on psyker/zealot it is a complete waste of a slot on a relic

strange wyvern
prime elk
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You don’t need any stamina perks on zealot and psyker

strange wyvern
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Got 2 +3 stam curios on my psyker rn

prime elk
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Seems overkill

weary idol
strange wyvern
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swap one out for a toughness curio then?

prime elk
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I’d run one stamina curios max

weary idol
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Psyker has the fastest stamina regen delay in the game at .5 seconds I think

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I would swap out both personally

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I used to use a single +3 stamina on my psyker

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For ages, and I swapped it out recently

frozen fiber
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Used assail build in a "enhanced blitz" it seemed like assail generated less peril.

weary idol
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I have felt zero difference

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+Stamina on psyker is genuinely a placebo benefit

prime elk
strange wyvern
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at least rn

weary idol
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you only need 0.1% stamina to push attack things

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and you regen stamina while sliding

prime elk
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If you’re really dependent on kinetic deflection, 1 stam curio is fine but then then…

strange wyvern
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so just 3 toughness curios? I don't have any +17%

weary idol
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that's what I do yeah

prime elk
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Rest toughness

weary idol
prime elk
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Better start farming at Melks or the armory extension

weary idol
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no

prime elk
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Not that you need max rolls though

strange wyvern
long wharf
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But bigger numbers better

light solstice
strange wyvern
prime elk
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21

strange wyvern
idle lotus
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damn 1%

strange wyvern
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So either they nerfed the shit out of it or broke item descriptions

marble crater
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The description is wrong

strange wyvern
prime elk
strange wyvern
marble crater
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50% is also easy enough really, I don't think you even need to kill it, just deal 50% damage with Brain Burst

marble crater
strange wyvern
marble crater
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Just ask clad or Karien loregryn

fringe garden
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yeah some folks in the discord will carry you for it

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Very happily, I might add. I guess its a passtime

strange wyvern
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Still, no idea why fak shart doesn't allow you to make a one person private game without using mods

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Hell I'd argue trying to go for cliffhanger in normal games is just as much griefing if not more

glacial vapor
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Most penances are actively throwing the game KEKW_ogryn

strange wyvern
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most of the rest are locked behind me getting cliffhanger lmao

glacial vapor
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RIP, I actually got cliffhanger by accident KEKW_ogryn

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Shot an EK staff at a bunch of hounds climbing a wall and killed them all KEKW_ogryn

glacial vapor
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No one said they had to die from the fall whatthefuck_heresy

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I think a barrel might have got them actually

zinc phoenix
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BARREL

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NUKE ALL BARREL

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who keeps making the fucking things

glacial vapor
zinc phoenix
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Like yeah bro we low on ammo, gear, soldiers etc but let’s make sure to coat every map in exploding barrels

weary idol
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the nurgle cultists

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they need gasoline to huff

glacial vapor
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Wolfer realised the barrels have the highest K/d in the game

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So he's been putting them everywhere

jovial juniper
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Tactical Genius

idle lotus
tawny knoll
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Does charging the voidstrike staff to full increase damage? Or just cleave and stagger?

buoyant maple
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So it’s adding a feature that hurts standard quickplay matchmaking for the <5%

upper sun
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good

glacial vapor
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Lmao, the timing

upper sun
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i dont think the people who havoc was made for even play havoc

queen fog
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"The higher the charge level, the more damage is inflicted."

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shocker that outta all places to get info thats the place you had to check if u didnt know KEKW_ogryn

rancid mauve
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What do I put on my inferno staff?

jovial juniper
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Blaze Away Warp Nexus

weary idol
jovial juniper
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Flak + Unyielding/Maniacs/5 CRIT chance

weary idol
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which does not get extra damage from charging

prime elk
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Fucking fatshart

queen fog
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my reasoning is now in shambles

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are we sure its nurgle effecting this hive city

jovial juniper
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FS with smite prejudice is crazy

queen fog
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cuz with all the misinfo around its feeling like tzech

jovial juniper
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No upgrade on mortis

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No upgrade on Enhanced Blitz

weary idol
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I don't actually know what that mortis trial upgrade for smite even does tbh

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I don't know what fatshark thinks it does either

summer prairie
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It doesn't work

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There's no relevant code iirc

marble crater
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What is it supposed to do? KEKW_ogryn

summer prairie
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That even attempts to do anything

marble crater
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Because just more damage is pretty boring compared to the other upgrades

jovial juniper
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What the actual hell Fatshark

buoyant maple
weak galleon
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does Deflector blessing benefit from WarpRes on a weapon?

prime elk
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It’s not worth NOT dumping warp
res because of deflector

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Assuming deflector is even affected by warp res

buoyant maple
wraith sphinx
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fellas, do any of you have brain burst gunker builds to share? I'd love to see them

upper sun
buoyant maple
upper sun
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i straight up dont believe u

upper sun
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im pretty sure someone here reported it as not working and it got slapped with not a bug

upper sun
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aaaa whos the guy that posts once a month

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with an orange avatar and pf in his name?

wraith sphinx
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and no cruel fortune

upper sun
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"In block.lua, Block.attempt_block_break shows the calculation for warp charge gain being related to the player’s max stamina multiplied by the warp_charge_efficiency_multiplier. There is no checking for warp resistance from the active weapon, nor any check for Inner Tranquility’s peril resistance effect."

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apparently its supposed to but its still bugged huh

dull scroll
# wraith sphinx

quietude is prob better, but what you doing with KR, you are not actually planning on using BB as a gunker are you lol

upper sun
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šŸ¤” i think the peril gen perk nodes work but not the warp res stat

summer prairie
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Peril resistance affects deflector but I was under the impression that weapon warp resistance doesn't

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But haven't looked at it

fringe garden
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Even if it does, there are better ways to boost deflector than dumping some other stat

upper sun
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yes

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deimos of defence....

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+2 stam
block
deflector

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its so peak

wraith sphinx
fringe garden
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Ah, for science then

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That's fair

dull scroll
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then might as well just use a voidstrike instead of a gun

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or maybe even VB šŸ¤”

plucky flax
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Goop 🤢

wraith sphinx
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I honestly don't know the staves well

marble crater
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And you never will, if you just play gunker whaaa

wraith sphinx
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just for that snarky ass reply alone I will play 1500 more missions as gunker

marble crater
plucky flax
wooden sand
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Dump for big pysker sword

marble crater
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Warp res

wooden sand
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Good

wraith sphinx
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the questions about dump stats would make for great oblivion npc lines

marble crater
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We could use a bot auto response whenever someone types "dump stat", it would be a picture or list of all the weapons and their dump stat

wraith sphinx
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1% chance it's a bogdanoff meme

marble crater
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I don't know what that means staregryn

wraith sphinx
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boomer...

marble crater
nocturne dust
wooden sand
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Dump for fire staff

nocturne dust
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Voidstrike being Blast Radius, Dueling Sword being Cleave

marble crater
nocturne dust
wooden sand
marble crater
nocturne dust
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I'm not the Discord mod

marble crater
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So we need to bribe Hank?

nocturne dust
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I guess

wraith sphinx
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I really really dislike how indistinct voidstrike and voidblast are from one another, name and appearance wise

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incredibly lazy

queen radish
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Cosmetics letting you make every staff look like any of the others is definitely a choice

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My Trauma staff identifies as an Elektro staff

marble crater
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Ew

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Not in my Darktide

queen radish
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I like the giant belt buckle on the end

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It's not a phase, I just really want that +20% Crit chance modifier on my Trauma

wraith sphinx
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I'm going to call them by their mark names from now on

rancid mauve
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How do I do cliffhanger penance?

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I gathered a horde on thin bridge

blissful solar
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many call voidblast trauma still

rancid mauve
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Used my psycho shout

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And they just stopped at the endge of bridge

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Basically they fell down where they stood

jovial juniper
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Smite juggling

weary idol
nocturne dust
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šŸ˜Ž

wraith sphinx
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🄁

weary idol
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the entire renaming they did was pointless and only made shit more confusing

wraith sphinx
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I can tell!

nocturne dust
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Yes, but think of the nonexistent lore implications

strong gulch
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And they didn't even rename the things in penances.

wraith sphinx
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remember my shotgun conundrum

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from a few weeks ago

strong gulch
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no

wraith sphinx
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it's so over

strong gulch
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I also don't remember if I took my meds.

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send help

wraith sphinx
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deploying 4 gun psykers now 🫔

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also god yeah bb really feels like its missing something

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I'm going back to assail

strange wyvern
weary idol
strange wyvern
prime elk
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Reeee

strange wyvern
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pretty sure without EP it takes 3 brain bursts to kill a crusher

weary idol
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pox hounds have 1400 health

strange wyvern
prime elk
weary idol
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it counts as a ranged attack

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the minor ranged attack damage node on the tree also works

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or y'know any kind of other microscopic damage increase

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like the millions psyker has access to

wraith sphinx
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just a little something and it will be awesome šŸ˜„

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I wouldn't mind kf being buffed too

prime elk
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Understood. Let’s buff assail again- Fatshart prob

weary idol
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I would like to see it get the multi brainburst from mortis trials

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as an upgrade

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maybe not ten targets like that one is but still

wraith sphinx
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someone should make a mod that replaces assail shard models with fidget spinners

weary idol
weary idol
wraith sphinx
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make it like

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variable 2-5, increase cast speed and replace kr with it

weary idol
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or just make it so that you can hover over multiple targets while charging and it increases the peril cost per target but strikes them all at the same time

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with a limit of like 4 or something

wraith sphinx
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thatd be cool too

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but yeah point being ANY of these will do

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bb is on the brink of being fun and awesome

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just needs a little push

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oh yeah

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bb ignoring captain shields partially too, perhaps?

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purely because bb being stopped by an energy shield looks stupid

mental kraken
prime elk
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Would be a rare fatshart W

wooden sand
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They buffed smite

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Made it so it lasts 40 seconds

radiant frigate
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instructions unclear, buffing assail

jovial juniper
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"Despite the recent buffs, Assail still Doo Doo, therefore buff" - 40+ BMI Chondrichthyes

strong gulch
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instruction unclear, precog is actually 5s now

strange wyvern
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instrucitons unclear, buffing ogryn

mental kraken
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Instructions unclear, buffed dueling sword

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And gave it to the ogryn

plucky flax
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Ogryn cleave talent with ds would allow it to horde clear maybe.

jovial juniper
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The cleave damage distribution would still be Doo Doo

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That being said

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Being able to spread minimum damage to more enemies would be nice

#

looks inside
4.5 cleave on lights

uneven mirage
#

what's the worst staff and why is it voidblast

uneven mirage
#

at least inferno is fun to use with brainburst on-hit procc passive

analog agate
#

VB is garbo. Voidstrike is the best by far

#

/s.

uneven mirage
idle lotus
prime elk
#

Can’t stand it

analog agate
glacial vapor
#

If you've not got the VB staff decked out it feels pretty bad. Easily top two staffs

weary idol
#

I love using rending VB as a sidearm

idle lotus
#

just dont go staff in the first place

jovial juniper
uneven mirage
jovial juniper
#

šŸ¤“

prime elk
weary idol
#

It's the only staff I ever use consistently

#

It's such a convenient "fuck you" button to bulwarks and crushers

idle lotus
#

why use staff when boolets do the trick

glacial vapor
#

Would be nice to not blow up everything within a mile of the explosion though. I fear for my life when a teammate runs VB atm KEKW_ogryn

analog agate
#

VB is also the only staff that takes some kind of aiming skill. Too bad voidstrike sucks too much

prime elk
weary idol
#

or the start of gloriana

idle lotus
glacial vapor
prime elk
uneven mirage
#

because i can boolet with every other class, i can shoot fire and lightning out of my ass only with psyker

glacial vapor
#

Out of your ass? You might want to get that looked at

idle lotus
#

just shoot lighntning out of your gun thumbsup_ogryn

uneven mirage
#

i would if i HAD ONE THAT DOES IT SHATFARK

idle lotus
#

technically plasma is lightgning

plucky flax
#

The long delay between dodges on oggye cuck me so many times against disablers. nooooo

verbal thistle
#

if you kill them they die

plucky flax
#

No I like getting netted to test my teammates.

verbal thistle
glacial vapor
upper sun
#

youre just not used to fatboi

plucky flax
upper sun
#

no

#

but only 2

plucky flax
#

It's mostly the delay between dodges.

#

So when I melee sometimes and using dodges to cc chaffs.

#

Then I hear trapper net and spam dodge but delay happen.

strong gulch
upper sun
#

(its not thats bs)

plucky flax
upper sun
#

ye but i was told that by many people

#

like PATH

plucky flax
#

Dw I still clutch h40 sometimes.

#

With oggy

#

But I'm also netted 10 times per match whatthefuck_heresy

upper sun
#

weapons do NOT have the same dodge recovery

#

relic has 4 thammer has 3 relatively the same distance if mobility is at like 70 for relic

#

but i can not dodge for shit on relic

nocturne dust
#

not sure what you're talking about at this point

upper sun
#

šŸ™„

#

i stated that i believe wepaons do not have the same dodge recovery rate unlike path who believes otherwise

nocturne dust
#

Clad, don't you roll your eyes at me. Go to your room.

upper sun
#

were the same age

nocturne dust
#

4 and 3?

#

Are you talking about dodge count?

upper sun
#

dodges

#

with a similar dodge distance

nocturne dust
#

Right

upper sun
#

if the mobility isnt dumped on relic

nocturne dust
#

You're saying Relic takes longer to refresh dodges?

upper sun
#

yee

nocturne dust
#

Hhhhhmmmm, I dunno anything about that. I can tell you all weapons feel the same to me, the only reason thammer is easier to dodge with is because it's more rhythmic with the swings of the weapon in my experience (and also it's quicker)

#

I feel like Path is right, but I lack any empirical data to back this up.

somber echo
#

i'm not sure what the dump stat on bfgs is

#

is it warp resistance?

nocturne dust
#

yes

somber echo
#

yea figured

#

cuz i like building up peril with it

hearty wolf
#

Pretty sure I dodge more on relic blade than Thammer

#

Mainly due to Thammer having quite friendly sweeps so you don't need to dodge as often

#

But definitely interesting to think about

#

1 dodge weapon when

paper flame
#

what non-staff weapons are best for a gaze build?

verbal thistle
#

gun.

#

any you want

#

I use shredder auto pistol

true flicker
#

recon lasgun is my pref.

prime elk
#

SG goes well with a lot of guns, recon las is a classic

#

but yeah i like SAP

#

and vraks as well

wispy bay
#

IAR killing bosses so fast. I really slept on it.

somber echo
cloud night
#

Make it longer

remote shadow
#

Continuing to use Voidblast

#

Voidblast continues to be fun

#

Also currently looking for a Bubble build

strong gulch
#

@marble crater I was just giggling about that time I tricked you with the single wall. Then I remembered your unintended revenge.

paper flame
#

is "perfectionism" worth it over "lingering ingluence"?

patent jacinth
#

Not really

#

Perfectionism only really works in an enviorment of extreme density

#

And it requires you restack every engagement as they have most certainly fallen off

weary idol
#

though to be fair restacking doesn't take very long if the game actually spawns those enemies

clever elk
#

is perilous combustion worth the skill point? I'm considering trading it for battle meditation for my soulblaze scriers gaze build

verbal thistle
#

always worth it

wispy bay
#

What else do you have on that build?

remote shadow
#

She scry on my gaze til I perilous combustion

clever elk
#

this is what my tree looks like

#

using inferno staff

wispy bay
#

If you run with that, then Combustion is much better.

clever elk
#

what should i trade for battle meditation, since i want scryers gaze synergy

#

if i do do it

#

would it make a difference

wispy bay
#

What do you want to do Gaze for?

#

(Of course the obvious answer is to boost damage, but how would you use it)

clever elk
#

crit boost basically and to vent peril in case of "accidents", i also like the voice lines better than shriek

#

ig it's not important but having it be active for longer would be cool

wispy bay
#

So I don't think you ever need battle meditation at all.

#

If you want it to be active longer, just use staff quell.

clever elk
#

i see

wispy bay
#

You can change Wild Fire to Psychinetic Aura.

#

Which will work much better.

clever elk
#

Ah true, I think I'll just stick with this.

nocturne dust
#

Scrier's doesn't need Psykinetics due to the after effect lasting most of the cooldown

#

This is what I run for Scrier's Inferno

#

With Warp Siphon (and max siphon stacks), you cannot die from periling yourself as long as you activate Scrier's when it is off cooldown

nocturne dust
# clever elk

I would get rid of Empyric Shock and Perilous Assault

#

and Souldrinker, come to think of it KEKW_ogryn

#

My recommendation of a similar thing to your build

#

3 spare points

#

to place anywhere you like

#

Though I would put them in anticipation and battle meditation

wispy bay
nocturne dust
#

Psykinetics only touches ability CDR

#

and Scrier's doesn't need that

wispy bay
#

If they want to run Assail, it is another thing.

#

It is still more helpful for the team.

nocturne dust
#

Sure

#

Not like they need to choose with all the points they're wasting anyway

wispy bay
#

If you take BB, then you have to pick between it and wild fire...

nocturne dust
#

EP should give plenty of points, and there's little reason to grab Empyric Shock or Souldrinker

wispy bay
#

You can say no all day long if you want, but you still have to pick one of those two.

nocturne dust
#

or both

#

I literally just said both

wispy bay
#

Huh?

nocturne dust
#

take both

wicked hornet
#

I'm finally back on this game. Got good internet.

prime elk
#

too bad you having good internet doesn't fix fatshart having shit servers KEKW_ogryn

verbal thistle
#

dc'ed 3 times in a havoc

#

we lost on the 3rd time

#

since twins spawned and I was only boss dps

wicked hornet
#

KEKW_ogryn I rather it be on there end instead of mine. I know it's just a challenge from PAPA Nurgle. Big E protects

plucky flax
verbal thistle
#

shrimple

plucky flax
#

Tip for next time.

steady torrent
#

Mann, how is that I can take 2 billion fuking bullets without dying as an ogryn, and psyker dies from half of a single bulletAngrySpongeBob

wind spruce
quaint burrow
quaint burrow
#

funnily enough, you can put a "gain toughness when hitting 3 enemies" blessing on a force greatsword...

steady torrent
#

Nahh, i went with strength based on peril and cleave

#

Might as well go full dmg with sg

quaint burrow
#

yeah but you deal 0 damage when you're dead

verbal thistle
#

real

#

but the heretics die when their hp goes to 0

steady torrent
idle lotus
#

is pox gas supposed to give me depression or is that a skill issue staregryn

nocturne dust
deft stump
#

Since it funnels you through the worst parts of a map or just hinders progression without literally speeding through sections.

marble crater
#

It was a mistake

plucky flax
#

Kill all green goop

thorny blaze
#

Noob psyker question - do you ever use Electrokinetic staff vs horde or should I just switch to melee/smite? If its not good for horde is it just mainly for killing elites? How about monstrosity - RMB or LMB into weakspot?

I am trying to learn to use each Psyker weapon and while I understood the use case for the rest of the staves I am having difficulty using this one efficienlty

deft stump
#

RMB is for laziness, LMB if you wanna nuke boss hp with aiming. There is a reason why it was op when it could be quell cancelled.

thorny blaze
#

I will pick up new build from the builds thread I saw earlier today and try again with melee for horde

deft stump
#

Smite only if everyone is basically in trouble. If they aren't, you are just possibly slowing their kills down.

#

Or if you know you can interrupt an overhead.

#

But you can just EK RMB for the same effect tbh for single targets.

deft stump
thorny blaze
deft stump
zinc atlas
#

Guys haven’t played in a while. How are the staffs looking right now?

plucky flax
#

Burga extremely op

zinc atlas
#

What kind of build would you pair it with? Blessings, melee

plucky flax
#

Check pin for burga build. Normally people go with knife/ds4/deimos for melee weapon with it.

#

I personally use deimos with deflector and uncanny.

jovial juniper
#

Still better than most ranged weapons in the game though

formal harness
#

I also use a similar purg build but I switch the node on brain burst

#

Purg build lacks sniping potential, fast cycling bbs take care of that pretty well

#

unfortunately the damage drops off in havoc 40, but it's still decent

marble crater
#

Voidstrike bad, please buff all the Void staves

formal harness
#

gotta say I miss my quell cancel m1's on purg tho

idle lotus
#

im traumatised after this

upper sun
plucky flax
#

It's not even that big of a problem. It's the loud minority on reddit.

formal harness
#

Welp, I might've had a bad influence on that

plucky flax
#

They complain about surge surge spammer but I've seen it less than 5 times.

formal harness
#

no comment

upper sun
#

but tbh on purge it wasnt that bad

plucky flax
#

How many games did you have with them?

#

Was it less than 5?

upper sun
#

when it came out a lot

#

but afterwards like one game every 10

plucky flax
#

One every 10 is still a lot

upper sun
#

and tbh not many actually aimed it

#

the issue is even m1 spam with a macro doesnt do much damage on non weakspot hits

#

im posting it again

#

like these guys could actually aim

#

2 deleted the entire event

plucky flax
#

That was October 24

upper sun
#

yeah

#

release was bad

plucky flax
#

How many times can you remember since then

upper sun
#

afterwards it was rare

plucky flax
#

Ye

upper sun
#

i dont even remember tbh

formal harness
#

it's still possible to emulate quell cancel on purg tho

upper sun
#

smite and chorus are bigger fun blockers imo

formal harness
#

not as good as it was before

plucky flax
#

They killed my trauma quell cancel and burga too

#

So very sad

deft stump
plucky flax
#

You can do blitz cancel

formal harness
#

exactly

plucky flax
#

But so much harder to do

#

When trying to strafe

idle lotus
upper sun
deft stump
plucky flax
idle lotus
#

i really dont need more trauma staregryn

deft stump
#

At 300 ping.

plucky flax
#

Must be pro

marble crater
#

I will have Karien carry me to 40 soon

weak galleon
#

what you'd rate as a safest, highest survivability in "Oh shit" situations weapon? Deflector GS?

marble crater
#

Depends, Knife and Dueling Sword mobility can get you out of those situations or prevent you from being in them in the first place. Force swords with deflector are also good, but I would then say Illisi/Deimos, because they have better mobility than the great sword

weak galleon
#

in a perfect world, yeah, but I'm considering a weapon to serve as a backup for a backline voidblast spammer in close cohesion. so raw tankiness over mobility for the "I made a mistake" situations.
Deflector it is I guess.
Also, whats up with Illisi not cleaving scab rager in psykanium? on power attack

deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
#

Why don't you become the RNG good player?

rigid sky
#

never knew lmao

#

They've got some solid hit mass too right? I always struggle to horizontal through them

marble crater
#

They changed that a few patches ago, no idea about hit mass

rigid sky
#

They needed something, tbh. I still find dreg ragers to be scarier. Not sure why though

#

maybe because they're more visible

marble crater
#

I just shoot them all

zinc phoenix
#

Need this added to the game before I’m willing to play havoc again

strange wyvern
zinc phoenix
#

ā€œRager pack can you guys stop moving for a sec so I can slooooowly bb you one by oneā€

marble crater
summer prairie
#

havoc 40 ready

deft stump
marble crater
#

Just get good? whaaa

jovial juniper
#

21st Groaners aren't immune to suppression iirc

deft stump
marble crater
#

I'm good though, maybe. I didn't play in almost two weeks

jovial juniper
#

That being said
Flamer type weapons have top tier suppression

jovial juniper
#

So terrible Barrage even more terrible on them

plucky flax
deft stump
plucky flax
#

Yes geltmoai

wraith sphinx
#

Based šŸ§Žā€ā™‚ļø

#

Crazy how it's only been 3 or so weeks and people have already forgotten about the blight spreads modifier

deft stump
plucky flax
#

Getting paid to not do anything chilling on my phone listening to music xd

#

Im reading manga

queen radish
#

Overcast and gloomy day? Needs more Nickelback

plucky flax
queen radish
#

Ogryn should be able to Bull Charge while holding a mission item

wraith sphinx
#

Pissed me off so much I just quit mid mission

deft stump
wraith sphinx
#

Corruption puddles are different though

#

You can just not stand in them

queen radish
#

I wonder what the new max effective Corruption resistance is on Ogryn

weak galleon
queen radish
#

Bigman named "Heresy-Isnt-Real" taking zero gas damage

deft stump
wraith sphinx
#

True

jovial juniper
marble crater
deft stump
#

Like, I can understand if you weave into there to avoid absolute death, but there's nothing.

queen radish
#

I think without anything you can just use the Brace talent to survive gas

deft stump
#

Is the same with puddles. My zealot can slide through them because of weird builds but others can't. Well, maybe an oggy can.

jovial juniper
#

So even if gas breaks tg
You get a small amount of corruption
Then tg kicks in due to steady grip
Then gas breaks tg

#

Loop

queen radish
#

since general corruption resist is only 15% per curio, the max is 58% effective resistance

#

Inshallah we get a Curio update that merges or buffs any perk that isnt health/toughness/ability regen

jovial juniper
#

Hmmm
Pairing corruption resistance with bomber resistance so I can huff pox gas thrown by bombers

narrow herald
#

Wait I just realized guys

#

What if

#

Fatshark released the game shitty on purpose, just to slowly fix everything in 2 years to make it look like "progress"

queen radish
#

-12% block stam and -15% sprint stam could just be merged into -15% stam costs and it would still be considered niche

#

+9 Stam & -58% stamina costs Deflector Psykers gonna be tiny shieldgryns

deft stump
#

WDYM, 0.5% peril per hit from a DH is totally normal here.

glacial vapor
#

Dies from the corruption damage

deft stump
#

It stops at around 55% my psyker's hp. And I run no hp curios.

#

I know because I used to tank DH on my psyker instead of just taking my oggy.

#

And some ppl take longer to kill than others.

glacial vapor
deft stump
#

IDK if it's % or flat number.

#

But assume it's more % since my Oggy also loses quite abit to corruption.

#

Might be less if I bothered with anti-corruption things.

glacial vapor
#

Last time I saw my health plummet so I backed off lol

strange wyvern
deft stump
strange wyvern
#

oh ok, didn't realize the time zone diff (I'm East Coast) KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
#

Had caffeine.

#

May have some degree of things that causes caffeine to act like a sleep aid.

strange wyvern
#

Goob nighty then

deft stump
deft stump
#

I could set an alarm though just in case or go play something to keep awake.

strange wyvern
#

Nah I don't want to make you do that sah

deft stump
#

Is fine. Gotta do it today... well, tomorrow or it's next Thursday lul.

queen radish
deft stump
#

Just better blocking.

queen radish
#

impossible

deft stump
#

I'm serious.

queen radish
#

damn

#

I use Taxe so I wouldnt know

#

but im gonna check real quick

deft stump
#

If you mean the shot block part, it's like blocking melees repeatedly.

queen radish
#

it uses the smite_charge and force_shield block sfx

#

dammit

jovial juniper
#

It's always smite

#

Smh

deft stump
#

I told you there was nothing special.

queen radish
#

actually force_shield isnt being used by telekine shield

#

so changing that would indeed affect only Deflector

deft stump
#

Are you planning some meme mod?

queen radish
#

I always am

#

check my posted vids on here you'll see what I tend to do

#

granted I could make something useful like Silent Deflector

#

but whats the fun in that

weary idol
#

kitchen gun revolver is inspired though

queen radish
#

I thought the silly shotgun was good

#

wish they were fun to use in aurics though

deft stump
queen radish
#

I like to use my own mods so probably not lmao

#

right now im just thinking of playing Sundowner's "IM FUCKING INVINCIBLE" on a 5-10 second cooldown whenever you block

#

Ideas are welcome though, I dont really use Deflector

deft stump
weary idol
queen radish
#

The block is a 3d_sound so everyone would hear it

deft stump
deft stump
#

I guess?

queen radish
#

well yeah

weary idol
#

they would need the mod

queen radish
#

but if you in a match with someone else using Deflector you'd hear that shit no matter what

weary idol
#

they know what they signed up for

#

or maybe they don't and they'll learn

deft stump
#

If they get it, it's by choice.

queen radish
#

You cant really control it, so making it annoying could be bothersome

#

Like my ogryn melee mod, you'll hear it proc from other ogryns too

#

meanwhile most ability sfx are 2d and only play for the user

#

so Gunlugger ability playing Kickstart my Heart wont spread to everyone else

deft stump
#

You can put a warning about it, but if they refuse to read and use it, well...

#

IRL skill issue, I guess.

quartz barn
#

Tbh this is the same as being able to say yes/no or vacuum capsule, which can also be seen and heard by other players

#

Just more obstructive i guess, but tbh if you get any sfx mod you should be expecting it anyway

deft stump
#

Same for yes/no.

#

What would it play barring the default block sounds if modded with that?

#

Assuming we replaced it with say, the firing sound of said cursed gun?

#

Unless they did it with like the no voice line, at that point, that person is getting banned for well, "server affecting" mods that ruins gameplay.

quartz barn
#

Fair enough, wont work like that tho because other people would need to sound that would play

wispy bay
#

Just played a game with a Psyker complaining how weak force sword are compare to FGS.

quartz barn
#

I mean hes right

jovial juniper
#

Real
Make them one shot monstrosities

prime elk
wispy bay
#

The 2 other guys and I disgree, then he got a big melt down...

quartz barn
#

Fgs does like 60% of the dmg it should have whatthefuck_heresy

wispy bay
#

Like, start blasting insult.

abstract forge
#

Psyker rage

#

Soyker rage*

plucky flax
#

Sry was me

wooden sand
#

Such realistic that its so loud, being able to make you deaf forever

queen radish
#

jfc

wooden sand
#

Won't give you your liver back

queen radish
#

If you find the audio you're looking for, just replace bigfrag_1.opus in the mod and its done

kindred fog
#

fellow Psyker mains, I have come to declare that the Male Savant voice is simply the best of all Psyker personalities

#

simple as, no other argument is accepted

wooden sand
#

No

weary idol
#

s m h

queen radish
rigid dust
#

I'm just getting back into Psyker after taking a fairly lengthy break. It was my "main" back before.
Anything new or interesting since say, the intro of the pseudo-season pass?

deft stump
rigid dust
#

Cheers, I'll focus on that bit for a while.
I guess my main focus should be on finishing these Penances, and I just noticed that if I do like, 2, I'll finish most of the ones I'm missing.

#

"7 knockdowns" and the Monster kill in solo.

deft stump
rigid dust
#

I've honestly never been super clear on the other modes, but I actually can't hop on right now, but if you are free at a time that's more convenient for you, I would very much appreciate the help.

deft stump
rigid dust
#

I've apparently had it ready to go for over a year now, so I'm not in a huge rush :p

#

buuuuuut I'll 100% be free before then, in a few hours in fact. Probs less.

deft stump
zinc atlas
#

Friends I’ve been away from the game for a year or so. After maxing out all my classes in space marine I got the urge to come back and see what’s new. I was rocking a EK staff/ force sword/ smite build (don’t harass please I rarely used the smite other than elite group jumpscares). I also wasn’t doing any of the lmb nonsense either. Is this build still viable? Anywhere I look I see fire staff/bb/bubble builds. Is this the way now?

rigid dust
#

@deft stump Hey whatever works for you, I'm just happy for the assistance, thanks Reject 🫔

verbal thistle
wraith sphinx
#

there's also Mortis trials, which is kind of the opposite of havoc in a way. Good for a laugh and for messing around with suboptimal wacky builds

verbal thistle
#

but all staffs are S tier in any gamemode

#

psyker is that broken

upper sun
#

i love playing trauma in scab melee to make sure no one on my team has any fun except for me

formal harness
#

trust me I'm a professional

verbal thistle
#

he is

formal harness
#

best attack in the game

jovial juniper
#

Chad em

#

And yeah still viable

#

Ek for single targets
With venting Shriek for hordea

#

Smite for hordes

#

Melee for whatever

#

Got all the bases covered

deft stump
deft stump
rigid dust
#

Sure, cheers.
this isn't the poke, lol.

analog agate
zinc atlas
verbal thistle
#

all the staffs have stagger

analog agate
#

Zap em with staff a lot of the time. Running fgs is also the way to go depending on the enemy

verbal thistle
#

and psyker melee can deal with elites

#

DS/FGS/FS

upper sun
#

"psyker melee""
"ds"

upper sun
#

no

#

defence deimos, hammer, shield, pick, rashad are the only melees my hands shall touch

prime elk
#

Rashad is pretty good on psyker too

#

As is knife and taxe, allegedly

proper trellis
#

I really need a cliffhanger penance cheese method

#

it feels like when they made the penance the psyker had more pushing power or something

buoyant maple
proper trellis
#

I tried but there are so few places where you can actually push enemies off

#

every cliff in the game almost has railing

buoyant maple
#

Chasm logistratum starting section, there’s a catwalk nearby

#

Clandestium Gloriana starting section

marble crater
proper trellis
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my squad will just kill everything regardless of what I write in chat

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and nobody responded in the LFG channel