psyker-class

[long wharf]

you mean light machine gun

[upbeat kestrel]

maybe with next update

[long wharf]

veteran should definitely be given the option to go full machinegunner

[wary flax]

You can stack executioner's stance and deadshot and still not kill anything with a braced auto.

[upbeat kestrel]

exe stance brauto 😎

[young cliff]

As the gunner class it should totally be capable to become the small Heavy

[long wharf]

sure, why not

[nocturne dust]

I feel like vet will be the worst at it as long as they don't get something for specials like assail/tknives

[long wharf]

brautos are basically popcorn guns

[young cliff]

Give the brautos special a reloading shotgun/grenade launcher under it

[wary flax]

Shredder autopistol is a better braced autogun than braced autoguns.

[nocturne dust]

This is the issue with specials, killing them is so monumentally vital and doing it ASAP at any range is always the meta. It's why revolver is so unholy.

[upbeat kestrel]

but before the buff it was a worse brauto

[nocturne dust]

yes

lol

cycle of meta

[young cliff]

Shredder aren't even meta yet

[wary flax]

Well, I don't know what it was like before any buffs, I just know that right now it's decent, at least in normal mode.

[strange wyvern]

being worse than brautao doesn't make brauto anything close to meta

[nocturne dust]

altho brauto has one thing going for it

Agrippina can chunk armor better than shredder

[young cliff]

It's damage is solid if you land headshots, and with crits it ramps up for respectable damage

[nocturne dust]

sorry, cycle of submeta

[long wharf]

what do you mean "yet"?

for a few months, they were hands down the best gun in the game

[wary flax]

I got a shredder with damage dump and it was still doing pretty decent damage.

[long wharf]

for every class

[nocturne dust]

then you might love Brauto

[young cliff]

You are spelling Bistol wrong

[long wharf]

before the stagger blessing nerf

[upbeat kestrel]

before pinning fire nerf

[nocturne dust]

Bistol wasn't even out yet

[long wharf]

nay, youngin'

[wary flax]

No, I don't think I will.

[upbeat kestrel]

bolter with 250% everything

[nocturne dust]

😭

[upbeat kestrel]

same for autopistol

[strange wyvern]

The weakspot damage is nice provided you're barrelstuffing to get headshots

[young cliff]

That checks out, joined the Mourningstar just a few months ago

[nocturne dust]

if you want weakspot damage, just grab an infantry auto

[long wharf]

you have been renamed to Sweet Summer Child

[upbeat kestrel]

or vigil auto

[nocturne dust]

brauto is specifically to not aim

[long wharf]

you know not just how good you have it

[nocturne dust]

That should be brauto's niche

loads of ammo, loads of inaccuracy, but some bullets will hit

[upbeat kestrel]

just aim in the general direction of enemy

[wary flax]

And deal no damage.

[young cliff]

Nu-uh!

[nocturne dust]

nah, should do good damage

[young cliff]

Me ogryn

[nocturne dust]

not as much, but decent

[strange wyvern]

You'd think combat shotgun would be for not aiming yet if you aren't aiming trash mobs take 2-3 shots each

[long wharf]

Sweet Summer Brute, then

or Hodor

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn at home

[long wharf]

Temu Ogryn

[strange wyvern]

Wish.comgryn

[young cliff]

Isn't that zealot with crusher?

[nocturne dust]

No, that's knife zealot

Cleaver Ogryn is the upgrade

[zinc phoenix]

there was a period where they were comically op

[modest perch]

whereas paul is like crusher at home

[zinc phoenix]

and the game was all about the brauto

[long wharf]

I don't remember that, but then I also never use guns

I honestly wish psyker had less guns and more warp-related weapons

[wraith sphinx]

A new type of staff would indeed be fancy - no idea what it would even look like though

But restricting the class-agnostic firearms would just be moronic

[long wharf]

it actually wouldn't be moronic at all

I'd rather see the psyker get to use only one-handed guns

dedicate the offhand to force push, quell, or warp-buckler

[wraith sphinx]

Oh I see what you mean. Like the laspistol force push, right?

[long wharf]

yep

[wraith sphinx]

That would be a neat feature for sure

[long wharf]

it's called consistency and maintaining a theme

and instead of powering a force sword with warp for a single swing, instead imbue warp into the blade and every swing causes very close enemies to take soulblaze damage

[wraith sphinx]

I don't see why two handed weapons with bash couldn't get the same treatment, which also raises the point why are gun special actions so arbitrary and copy paste in the first place

[long wharf]

because they're copy and paste

FartShack's Darktide team is very bad with design and creativity

everything we like about Darktide's gameplay came from Vermintide

and all of the QoL features we get in Darktide come from Vermintide too (I have a theory about that specifically)

Vermintide and Darktide have separate teams that use the same engine

[cloud night]

I was playing that one game
Inquisitor: martyr weeks ago

The psyker had a set akin to a sword and a force/warp rod which is essentially a smaller staff, im guessing you're meaning something like that with off hand flexibility at the cost of only one hand weapons?

[jovial juniper]

Wait lemme ping clad

Clad loves this image

[jovial juniper]

@upper sun

[upper sun]

its VULGAR

its impropper!!!!

[jovial juniper]

[young cliff]

But big gun!

[upper sun]

not for psykers!!!!!

[deft stump]

Too smol.

[young cliff]

Let the space weezard warp bolts boolets!

[jovial juniper]

Clad, just wait for when I get Heavy Flamer

Pyromancer? Yeah

Watch this

[modest perch]

is it weird that i kinda wish psyker got the bolter ?

i wanna see what a skilled gun psyker could do with it

[young cliff]

Not weird, but Veteran needs something to be unique

[modest perch]

but zealot already has it

[long wharf]

the problem isn't one of lore

it's one of class separation gameplay

[young cliff]

Yeah but they are the melee class, smiker and vet are ranged ones

[long wharf]

I play psyker to use the warp for violence

[young cliff]

As you should

[modest perch]

idk the classes feel pretty separate to me

[long wharf]

I'd rather have more ways of doing that than an ability that's just "press F to use guns better"

[glacial vapor]

Scriers bolter would be nuts lol

[long wharf]

SG is a terrible ability from a design perspective

it's as unimaginative as you can get

[modest perch]

its a bit more than just "use guns better"

[zinc phoenix]

What it’s awesome

[young cliff]

At least it has the peril management, executioner stance on the other hand...

[zinc phoenix]

Press F to get stonking peril

Go brrr to keep it down

[long wharf]

it's really lame

[zinc phoenix]

Great success!!

[young cliff]

It also works for melee

[modest perch]

considering how the buffs interact with nearly everything else in the tree and can be used to great effect with a staff by the right player

[zinc phoenix]

Well you’re missing both legs so 😤

[long wharf]

w what?

checks

no, I'm fine

[young cliff]

Yeah, but those are prosthetics

[strange wyvern]

and all the QoL and detailed stats we lost from vermintide too

[long wharf]

they feel real enough

[glacial vapor]

What other combat ability is more imaginative? They're all pretty basic when you boil them down

[young cliff]

They are good quality ones

[glacial vapor]

There are several shoot better/ shout at something talents lol

[jovial juniper]

"Fear the power of the Warp"

🗣️

[warm flare]

which version of the blaze force sword is designed for single target again

[strange wyvern]

Shriek would feel better if it ragdolled enemies away instead of just a knockdown

[jovial juniper]

Obscurus or Deimos

[long wharf]

I'd much rather have an ability that makes every bullet you shoot do funny warp pathing/seeking

[jovial juniper]

Deimos is the big stab

[long wharf]

with firerate inversely affecting additional cleaving

[warm flare]

obscurus is a weird hybrid more than just single target tbh

[jovial juniper]

And the best anti armor rn

Hits hard
It's fast

[strange wyvern]

~~please make cliffhanger naturally attainable without needing crazy setup that requires throwing missions ~~

[warm flare]

DS:

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

[warm flare]

i love the blaze force sword

but its just a non-meta DS ngl

it does everything in a balanced way

[long wharf]

there's no reason to use the special ability on a normal fsword

[young cliff]

We don't talk of DS because we are crazy not sissies

[warm flare]

okay besides special ability

[long wharf]

which means there's really no reason to use fsword over dsword

[warm flare]

i dont main DS i just acknoledge its a meta

[long wharf]

now, fgs is great

I don't use ds on psyker because of the fgs

[warm flare]

because i wanna have fun, not abuse a meta 🥀

fsword is fun unlike dsword

[long wharf]

ds needs nerfing

[warm flare]

i dont think theyre gonna nerf ds

[long wharf]

reduce cleave, reduce damage against armor

[young cliff]

It's not meta if I deny it's existence in my dream lalalaicanthearhyoulalala

[warm flare]

nah cleave is fine just needs an AP nerf

[long wharf]

fgs on the other hand needs a cleave buff

[strange wyvern]

Realizing I probably play the weakest version of psyker since I'm running shriek, brain burst, and force sword

[weary idol]

I like sliding :)

[long wharf]

no reason for a two-handed force claymore to have a naturally low cleave

[weary idol]

I also like the much better gunplay this game has compared to vermintide

And the presence of ranged enemies as a regular threat

Rather than the occasional group of smelly beastmen with garbo bows

[strange wyvern]

you mean
"404 ammo not found"?

[weary idol]

That is one thing I will always think is fucking stupid with this game

It is far too stingy with ammo for having such good guns

In Vermintide all the ranged classes have a way to sustain infinite ammo

Either through ability usage, being Sienna, or player skill

[strange wyvern]

We are Sienna, which is weird to me since I liked Kruber in vermintide

[weary idol]

I liked Saltzpyre

[long wharf]

Havoc difficulty design is also stupid

reducing our ammo? stupid

[weary idol]

Though with ogryn rework having Back Off for BLO

That's kinda neat

[long wharf]

reducing how much ammo we find in the level is fine, but don't reduce how much ammo we get per pickup

[weary idol]

makes me hopeful that Zealot/Vet may get similar infinite ammo talents in the future

At least vet

guy deserves it

Part of vet identity is being good with guns

[long wharf]

no, ammo economy is part of game balance

[weary idol]

Yeah so lock them behind a keystone or deep on the side of the tree that doesn't benefit your melee

[long wharf]

I doubt we'll ever see an intended infinite ammo method

[strange wyvern]

Wondering if there's any lore friendly weapons with infinite/"infinite" ammo with some sort of management

[weary idol]

I mean lasguns

Like...all of them

[long wharf]

not infinite at all

they run on batteries

[strange wyvern]

Like the funny mass effect guns that had so much metal fragments in them that you'd be unlikely to need to reload over a firefight

[long wharf]

not metal fragments, metal blocks

original ME lore was blocks of metal that the guns shaved pieces off for each shot

I'm a huge Mass Effect nerd

I'll talk about ME lore for hours

[weary idol]

It's cool that the Ultrakill shotgun works the same way

[strange wyvern]

Then a "Genius" invented thermal clips

[long wharf]

Bioware devs wanted ME to be more of a shooter

so they needed ammo

[weary idol]

I mean they didn't need it, but they sure added it anyways

[long wharf]

the in-lore explanation is outright stupidity

ME2 also saw a change in how shields worked

they became typical sci-fi energy barriers

instead of the original short burst emission of mass effect fields

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/roadhog-hook-illari-whole-hog-ultimate-gif-9483484540015287383

[tough vine]

the ME serie was great until ME3 Final which was a huge let down, to me at least

[long wharf]

I haven't done another ME series run since experiencing the original ME3 endings

[long wharf]

the endings ruined it for me entirely

[weary idol]

people still play the multiplayer for ME3

[long wharf]

don't worry, FartShack is going to address that at some point

my biggest hope for ME:LE was ME3 MP on PC

I played the hell out of ME3MP

[weary idol]

I think the Rumbler itself is part of the problem with that talent

[long wharf]

loved it

[jovial juniper]

Yeah like in 6 years

[tough vine]

I mean it was a horde shooter, which wasn't half bad to be honest

[jovial juniper]

[weary idol]

I was playing it on PC

[young cliff]

If they are fast

[long wharf]

no PC servers any more

but there are ME3MP XBox servers

[wraith sphinx]

I love ME but the narrative discrepancy between 1 and 2/3 is painful

[tough vine]

Shame that BioWare got bought by EA 😦

[long wharf]

not really

Bioware did that to itself

EA actually has a good track record for giving studios more than enough rope to hang themselves

if you want proof, go read about the development of Anthem

without EA, we wouldn't have gotten Mass Effect 1

Bioware was bought by EA late in ME1 development because Bioware was running out of money

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-overwatch-league-gladiators-la-gladiators-shields-up-gif-13574675

[tough vine]

Anthem mechs/Suits were nice.

[long wharf]

the whole flying mechanic was great

the concept of an open world that you flew through and did events as they popped up was fine

the implementation was sorely lacking

not to mention the hype that was built up while the devs knew they didn't even have a real game

but that's entirely Bioware's fault

the Bioware leadership didn't provide any project management nor direction on Anthem at all

and just assumed that "Bioware magic" would pull them through at the last minute

for most of Anthem's development (over 7 years), the devs themselves didn't even know what kind of game they were working on

[tough vine]

I should probably do what you said and read about Anthem Devellopment. because I had actually no idea that it was BioWare fault.

[long wharf]

100% worth reading

it's a very interesting case study on mismanagement

EA gets a lot of bad rap

a lot of that is warranted

Bioware related is not

Bioware shot themselves in the head

[weary idol]

I'm just so used to it being EA's fault

[long wharf]

even a broken clock is right twice a day

[weary idol]

They like buying up promising companies and giving them absurd deadlines so that they can eat them and consume their IPs

[tough vine]

Was ME:A also BioWare own fault ?

[long wharf]

partially

the team that made ME:A was a brand new team slapped together under the Bioware name

by EA

[dusky crag]

Remember they took flying out and the CEO of EA told them to put it back in lmfao

[long wharf]

Bioware proper (Edmonton) didn't want to work on another ME game at the time (they were working on Anthem)

so EA put together a team, with a core of devs with multiplayer experience (I forget which game)

the team was largely new, inexperienced devs

who decided (at EA's recommendation) to use Frostbite engine instead of Unreal

[tough vine]

THen it's more of a EA's fault in that case.

[weary idol]

I just wish they would make a dedicated game out of Inquisition or ME3's multiplayer

I just want more of that

[long wharf]

meanwhile, OG Bioware saw that they needed more help with Anthem, because they saw the cliff coming

so they would periodically grab the most experienced devs from ME:A to work on Anthem

[blissful solar]

we just need a new prototype game and then gaming might heal

[dusky crag]

true

[weary idol]

are you sure? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3465582153 this steam guide was put up a few weeks ago

[long wharf]

so, nobody working on ME:A knew anything about the history of ME, just trying to recreate all the story beats players talked about from the original trilogy into ME:A

[blissful solar]

what i don't get is like

why don't these writers just rip off cool pre existing stories

[long wharf]

but with artists that didn't care about the lore, with writers that didn't care about the lore, and inexperienced devs trying to shoehorn RPG systems into a FPS engine called Frostbite

"artistic integrity"

[blissful solar]

why do they always give us this slop

[dull scroll]

@narrow herald was that you I played with?

[wraith sphinx]

Inquisition 💀

[long wharf]

that's for the original ME3 release

[tough vine]

Oh, you mean same reason half the videogames series and film fail on launch ?

[long wharf]

I wasn't aware that there were any MP servers still up

[wraith sphinx]

I disliked inquisition's gameplay a lot so learning they ported that same class system over to veilguard was exasperating

[weary idol]

yes

which has multiplayer servers still running

It's why I bought it seperate from LE

[long wharf]

ME:LE should have included ME3MP

[narrow herald]

Who were u?

[dull scroll]

were you the zealot? I was the psyker

Tzeentch

[narrow herald]

yeah

[dull scroll]

lol

[dull scroll]

okay that's you

[narrow herald]

i fucked up twice tho

[ripe obsidian]

Inquisition felt like playing WoW solo. I don't even like WoW as an MMO

[narrow herald]

not a good run on me

[dull scroll]

nah you did good, very few people I've played with survive like that

[wooden sand]

Is that conquest?

[narrow herald]

i was also burnt out towards the end

[wraith sphinx]

very accurate

[dull scroll]

I got pushed out by the boss into a reaper or else we won that

you guys were too far away

[wraith sphinx]

The entire game was structured as a singleplayer MMO and it was a very grating experience

[narrow herald]

one piece

[weary idol]

I liked it

But then I play a lot of MMOs

[wraith sphinx]

I think there were less than 10 conversations throughout the 60 or so hours it took me to beat the game that lasted more than 30 seconds

[long wharf]

oh man, Mass Effect N7 Digital Edition is on sale for $6 on Steam right now

fffffffffffuck, I'mma get it

[weary idol]

6 dollar horde shooter multiplayer

[narrow herald]

vanguard is cracked on that mode soo funny

[wraith sphinx]

vanguard is so much fun fr

favourite class accross the entire trilogy

[blissful solar]

the coop wasn't super liked back in the day I think. probably more for game development related reasons

[narrow herald]

coop or

red/green/blue

[strange wyvern]

Funny how this whole mass effect convo started because I thought brauto guns should get a larger mag capacity in some way

[jovial juniper]

Yeah give them 180

[weary idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/230805863663796226/1241197952496566282/EXPLOSIONS.mp4?ex=6816176c&is=6814c5ec&hm=0d2868da7c709585315b30fc4cee3c601edab59ec70c066442ba46f4f09e49ff&

[jovial juniper]

Just like Recon 12

[blissful solar]

those lazy bastards taking it outta the remaster

[strange wyvern]

could do belt fed ammo, with the ammo pack on your character's ass so it doesn't conflict with backpack cosmetics

the booty pack o bullets

or maybe i'm just thinking of the gunner's machine gun at this point

[weary idol]

https://imgur.com/a/xFkqVgV

also turian soldier best

[wraith sphinx]

reminds me of the broken Garrus build for sp

[weary idol]

https://imgur.com/a/XorvLs6

if only our brain magic was like this

these have sound if you open them btw

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah

[blissful solar]

wtf...

[jovial juniper]

Imgur moment or something

[blissful solar]

didn't know mp4s could do that

well i guess I knew they had sound so

[bold condor]

I know this was an issue before, but is there any reason to get a weapon before you hit level 30?

[weary idol]

imgur does it

they embed like gifs, but they have sound

[verbal thistle]

no

[wraith sphinx]

I love biotics as a system

[bold condor]

i love that so much tbh

[verbal thistle]

use Emperor gifts

save materials

[wraith sphinx]

similar in vein to DAO's arcane warrior and also why I love gun psyker so much

[verbal thistle]

at level 30 you get the highest chance for bigger stats in the armory

[bold condor]

is the below a decent amount of currency or nah
3180 gold hexagon currency
4834 plasteel
1188 cubes

[verbal thistle]

unsure

I lost count of how much you need

[bold condor]

what about melk? is he just meaningless

[verbal thistle]

you can get a max empower weapon from him

but that stats wont be what you want

its decent for leveling

but not when you reach max level

[bold condor]

so cooked

[blissful solar]

a lot is probably 50k diamantine and above

maybe 100k plasteel

[bold condor]

so in summary
buy nothing until level 30
at level 30, pray something decent is in store (no idea what would be decent)
buy this thing, and tune the stats with the currencies

[verbal thistle]

almost

1st part yes

wait till 30 to roll a god weapon

then go here to buy grey weapons

[blissful solar]

you can look at the store for a decent weapon but it probably won't have them

gotta do the above

[bold condor]

what would be considered good

[verbal thistle]

then keep buying until you get the stat you want

depends on what you are looking for

/want you want ot use

[blissful solar]

for many weapons you want the mobility stat to have a max of 60, for example of how it works

other weapons have different stats to lower to 60 and some have other optimal stat distribution that aren't as simple as merely dumping one to 60.

[warm flare]

okay this might be an unpopular opinion but

brainburst

fucking sucks

🥀

[wraith sphinx]

Not unpopular

[blissful solar]

🌹

[warm flare]

by the time you charge it up the zealot kills the crusher

or whatever youre trying to use it on

[bold condor]

maybe u should target different enemies

[wraith sphinx]

Do you have kinetic resonance

[warm flare]

its good for safe sniping but the thing is this game has a large hitbox

[bold condor]

yea so whats the deal with the 52/60 or w/e on stats

[weary idol]

the number on the right is the maximum if you empower them

the number on the left is what it currently is

[blissful solar]

52 is what that stat is at right now
60 is what it will go to when you fully upgrade/empowered the weapon

[verbal thistle]

number on left is what the stat is currently

[bold condor]

ahhh

[verbal thistle]

right is what the stat max is

[warm flare]

does that hit breakpoints on damnation?

[verbal thistle]

you are looking for number on the right

[blissful solar]

KR is attack speed and peril reduction

for bb

[warm flare]

hold on lemme test something

[bold condor]

im level 24 rn

how fast can i get 30

[verbal thistle]

@bold condor if you have time to vc

I can explain this over voice

[bold condor]

so i can participate in the game

[long wharf]

you already can

you want to get weapon masteries up

[warm flare]

okay you can hit breakpoints with EP and KP

makes it alot better

still alot of the time finding the zealot to kill XYZ before i can finish a charge

[ripe obsidian]

So far with the Bubble Knight build on 30+ havoc, I am doing the most damage, but also dying quickly because I forget that I do not regen very much toughness

[plucky flax]

Don't try it at home.

[ripe obsidian]

I am also just bad at this game. D:

[weary idol]

which bubble knight build was it

[ripe obsidian]

But I want to get better at builds that aren't just bubble+purg, bubble+trauma, or DS4+book. I can do most things in Auric or Auric Maelstrom with pretty good outcomes, but those three builds are the only ways I can consistently win H30+, and the Zealot one is iffy for H40

[weary idol]

I tried my own and the problem was bubble is a shit tier ability

[ripe obsidian]

That's a take

[weary idol]

that doesn't help the psyker themselves in any substantial way

[verbal thistle]

lmao

[bold condor]

whats up with penances

[ripe obsidian]

I'm gonna go ahead and disagree that bubble doesn't help Psyker, but okay

[bold condor]

like do they really give nothing but that tiny xp

[verbal thistle]

[ripe obsidian]

You get a sense of Pride and Accomplishment

[glacial vapor]

You get cosmetics from penances and from hestias blessings

[bold condor]

i see so it just counts up all the penance xp currency thing to show you total

its not like i can spend it

[glacial vapor]

It's also not xp, those points are purely for Hestias blessings

Yeah, it'll just total up over time

[bold condor]

hmm\

[upper sun]

based mass effect enjoyer

[bold condor]

ig i just will keep using whatever new items i get for 5 more levels

[upper sun]

oh no i missed mass effect talk 😭

[weary idol]

Anything I could ever want from bubble is done a thousand times better by smokes on veteran

Bubble lasts all of 2 seconds on higher difficulties

Veteran smokes are thirty

[plucky flax]

Tru too bad vets don't run smoke often in havoc.

[dusky crag]

I've been converted at this point

[ripe obsidian]

I think 6 seconds is the minimum, to be pedantic. But it's a fair point. Still, I like Bubble to encourage my team to push forward

[long wharf]

is smoke really that effective?

[ripe obsidian]

And so I can stand still and burn things without a random gunner turning me into swiss cheese

[weary idol]

yeah it's p much a psyker bubble with infinite health

[long wharf]

well no

bubble shuts down all projectiles inside the bubble without damaging the bubble at all

shotgunners, Bonbon, etc

[weary idol]

enemies inside smoke can't shoot you because they are too close to you

[long wharf]

trapper nets

[weary idol]

with the notable exception of a few specialists

smokes don't need to worry about breaking because oh no you used me to stop bullets my one and only purpose

[dusky crag]

It also for some reason lobotomised rodin

[weary idol]

bubble like every defensive ability that isn't VoC is worthless dogshit

[long wharf]

I never use bubble as "everyone stop and camp here for a minute"

[weary idol]

eh that's not fair to taunt actually

it's just Chorus and Bubble that are trash abilities

[long wharf]

bubble is for shutting down certain enemies entirely as well as temporary relief from ranged for safe repositioning

[weary idol]

hey cool smokes do that too

and they regenerate too

and you get 3 of them

and they don't die and leave you under the slightest bit of resistance

[plucky flax]

I dunno choir is pretty good in havoc to me.

[ripe obsidian]

Taunt is also good, and I'd say that's defensive

[weary idol]

.

[ripe obsidian]

Reading is not my strong suit

But regardless, I disagree with your opinion on chorus and bubble

[dull scroll]

shit talks purge shit talks bubble smh, just spam gaze vrak and see how far you climb 😒

[long wharf]

I do like that name

[weary idol]

yeah it's the witch from Banjo Kazooie

[long wharf]

Guntilda would work as well

StaffOfBullets

[weary idol]

https://banjokazooie.fandom.com/wiki/Gruntilda_Winkybunion

[plucky flax]

Actual 40 assignment level too?

[weary idol]

that's still at 33 but I've done more than 1 havoc 40

admittedly one was on my veteran but the 2nd was gun psyker

[plucky flax]

[dull scroll]

😂

[plucky flax]

Fair.

I'mma go carry some noobs with choir boi now.

Join my h40 for free carry.

[weary idol]

I have no idea who you are

[weak sierra]

I have about 5800 penis point by now
done every single operative penance
the cosmetics you get from them are pretty underwhelming

[plucky flax]

I'm top 1%.

[dull scroll]

He's the bubble knight 😤

[weary idol]

No I mea I dunno what your name in game is

[ripe obsidian]

:<

[plucky flax]

[plucky flax]

Was it you? I was in character selection.

[ripe obsidian]

It was me. I like being carried

[plucky flax]

Based.

Bruh the dt server.

It's kill me.

Constant dc

Error 2001 2014

[proper osprey]

@nocturne dust they got him

A thrilling saga

[long wharf]

those could have been pms

[wooden sand]

They got him so his best friend decided to continue his legacy

[fierce spoke]

With psyker I'm finding a bit hard to do a succesful recovery in havoc, and I've had my team fold like napkins or I get seperated far too easily due to people running ahead.

[patent mango]

oh my god

its the guy that did a rant about me for 2m

[fierce spoke]

I need a good build for Havoc Psyker taht I can still have some fun with if that makes sense.

[proper osprey]

Is it?

[patent mango]

that was hilarious i literally was just playing gunpsyker LOL

[fierce spoke]

I love Assail, but I'm not sure it's helping.

[patent mango]

and that was malding worthy

apparently

[patent mango]

yes

[fierce spoke]

DAyumn lmao

[analog agate]

FINALLY

[fierce spoke]

People really don't like gunpsykers it seems, I don't get the hate tbh.

[proper osprey]

He was throwing a fit with me lol

[patent mango]

he malded i did low dps when i was busy reviving people every 10s

lmaoooooo

[fierce spoke]

As much as a staff simp as I am

[patent mango]

lmao

[patent mango]

no its just this person in specific

[proper osprey]

Wow

[patent mango]

everyone is fine with gunker

[analog agate]

Guy was a self admitted troll

[wooden sand]

You need a new build because you were being slow?

[nocturne dust]

Any of the pinned staff builds work for Havoc, especially if you swap the ability for bubble (except Voidstrike)

[dull scroll]

depends, you gonna have fun with inferno/bubble?

[nocturne dust]

EK would also fall behind, but it's workable.

[fierce spoke]

I do have bubble, also what is inferno?

[nocturne dust]

fire staff

[patent mango]

idk if i can post the rant he did

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[fierce spoke]

Hmm... I could try that. I stopped using the inferno as I wanted an option for the heavy bastards I find.

[dull scroll]

it's the spraying stick that lets you destroy half the map

[patent mango]

bug spray

[fierce spoke]

Then again... the Deimos does good enough for big guys.

I'd probably have to drop assail if I get the rifthaven staff

and go back to brain bursting people

[dull scroll]

it's the strongest psyker build in havoc atm, you avoid crusher and boss, but you can literally solo everything else on the map

[glacial vapor]

Can always go voidblast if you would prefer

[nocturne dust]

If you're going into Havoc, you want to BB as a last resort

[fierce spoke]

I think I have the voidblast, the mark 4 staff.

So basically I can go rifthaven and assail at the same time? Based.

[nocturne dust]

and only Inferno would BB

[glacial vapor]

The staffs have marks?

I didn't even notice lol

[nocturne dust]

nobody refers to it as 'rifthaven'

[fierce spoke]

Yeah, there's the one with the fireyball the mark 3

Ahh

[long wharf]

no, but I've argued since release that all of the staves should be a single weapon variants

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike?

[long wharf]

and share all blessings

[nocturne dust]

You can.

I wouldn't recommend it.

The meta Inferno build is grabbing BB for the nodes underneath it, psykinetics and wildfire

[bold condor]

no it is extremely important that you level their masteries seperately

[fierce spoke]

Ahh okay.

I'l go back to that build as it was actually my go to back in the day, I didn't even know it was meta.

[long wharf]

yeah no

[strange wyvern]

Guessing actually using brainburst in havoc's enemy density may as well be like making a gun bash build?

[dull scroll]

brain burst is extremely good, but you have to spec the upgrade that lowers its cd

[nocturne dust]

don't lie

[dull scroll]

I don't lie

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's not that bad, but it is pretty bad

[nocturne dust]

now take PC off

[dull scroll]

check the special kills, all BB

[nocturne dust]

I guarantee you, that is wrong

[dull scroll]

don't even start, you don't even play havoc

[nocturne dust]

You're going to kill specials by accident with PC

[prisma oyster]

which of the two shields is best for psykers? and why?

[nocturne dust]

Yes I do

wtf you on

[verbal thistle]

dome for thoughness regen

and its hard to misplace a dome

comapred to wall

[dull scroll]

this is just cope, I know how many specials I burst with bb

[nocturne dust]

dome, toughness regen, 360 protection, actually tall enough to protect ogryns

stops grenades

[long wharf]

sorry, but there's no way you're doing double the damage of everyone else without soulblaze doing the bulk of it

[strange wyvern]

I got shot through the shield wall by a sniper once, I'll just leave it as that

[nocturne dust]

It's really not.

[strange wyvern]

bubble at least actually works (most of the time)

[dull scroll]

do I need to start record videos and post here

[nocturne dust]

I literally grab so many kills by accident on Inferno

[long wharf]

shield wall only blocks projectiles - sniper shots aren't projectiles

[prisma oyster]

okay, thanks used the wall when soloing with friend. but for havoc/auri we do need to have two others. so was curious. thanks.

[nocturne dust]

I'll just be running and have things die

[dull scroll]

accidental PC special kills might be like less than 10%, if even that

[nocturne dust]

If you record a full match, I will count the actual BB kills just for you

[strange wyvern]

guh? I'm pretty sure I've blocked snipers with it before, and it only failed that one time

[dull scroll]

the take is just so wrong I don't even know where to start

[long wharf]

the way the code works is that snipers will stop targeting you if you get behind the wall or in bubble

[nocturne dust]

no u

[long wharf]

but the shot itself isn't a projectile

[nocturne dust]

KR isn't a bad node

but like, it's 10 seconds

[dull scroll]

not even going to argue with you on something so obvious

[nocturne dust]

Even with psykinetics, that's also shared with you having to use Inferno

[blissful solar]

[strange wyvern]

BB with scriers sounds both incredibly stupid but potentially useful if the damage increases meet any breakpoints

[verbal thistle]

its funny

[strange wyvern]

i dunno if they do it's just an idea i've had

[nocturne dust]

Probably does, but Scriers and BB both generate a lot of peril

[strange wyvern]

all those conditions to one shot a crusher when you could just use dueling sword

[glacial vapor]

I ran this once and had to rescue three Ogryns in the middle of an open area with shooters spread out everywhere

It went about as well as you would expect...

[cursive thorn]

what is greatswords niche

what do it do

[verbal thistle]

it does damage

big numbers

[strange wyvern]

big numbers

[verbal thistle]

massive one might say

[nocturne dust]

everything

except speed

It's a powerful general weapon, it works against everything. The niche is it's always a good option (unless you need to be fast).

[strange wyvern]

knowing fat shark, I wonder if it has a worse block cost modifier than the smaller force sword

I'd love to know if that stat was actually listed in game (it isn't)

[jovial juniper]

Generalist

Which means poor dodges

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[strange wyvern]

"Defenses is such a dump stat"
"Damn why do my dodges suck"
Even though it probably doesn't change much

[verbal thistle]

it doesnt

[strange wyvern]

has anyone done a side by side for 60 defenses vs 80 on dodges?

[verbal thistle]

yes

so minimal you can't tell the difference

[strange wyvern]

meanwhile damage going to 77% means you can't kill shit 🔥

[glacial vapor]

Does defences even affect dodges? I thought it was mostly push cost

[nocturne dust]

it does

[strange wyvern]

mostly, but on weapons without a mobility stat it also affects dodges

[nocturne dust]

It always affects dodges iirc

It just never matters

[strange wyvern]

I forget, I know mobility also affects dodges so I dunno which one takes priority if they're on the same weapon

[nocturne dust]

Don't they stack?

That's why the mk5 DS has insane dodges

[plucky flax]

@ripe obsidian sry bro I have the duty phone this week and some work emergency. Gotta head back there now at 2130 friday evening 😦

[strange wyvern]

is the sprint speed from 80 mobility at least noticable?

[glacial vapor]

No

[thorn cedar]

Yes, and it's more noticable the more move speed you stack.

Defences also affects block efficiency. It's unlisted. Because reasons.

[long wharf]

because FartShack doesn't believe in transparency in game mechanics

lead Darktide dev said in an interview that he hates "min-maxers" and makes things internally complicated on purpose to fight that

I'm not making that up

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I don't disagree

[long wharf]

I do

[blissful solar]

he's right and based

[nocturne dust]

Gamers min-max the fun out

[thorn cedar]

Honestly, I agree.

[nocturne dust]

[blissful solar]

too bad this game is being min maxed and is almost solved now

[long wharf]

he's a knob

[blissful solar]

if not solved

[long wharf]

it's human nature to maximize return on effort

[patent mango]

hilarious if true

[blissful solar]

there's a very blatant shift in how communities and humans communicate when things are min maxed

[thorn cedar]

There's probably just no good way to display block in a way that is congruent to player expectations. It's also the least used mechanic in the game so 99% of people are unaffected.

[glacial vapor]

Counterpoint

Min-maxxing is fun

[long wharf]

min-maxing is fun

[nocturne dust]

sometimes

[long wharf]

it also shows flaws in game design

[blissful solar]

for the min maxers. it takes away from basically everyone else, especially and mainly in pvp games

[glacial vapor]

It's fun on Ogryn, because variety

The other classes, not so much

[blissful solar]

at least it gives us info so people aren't so confused but the end result of min maxing is the end of the game

mostly just egotistical type people seeking to elevate themselves really

[ripe obsidian]

@plucky flax We won

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn only has variety because of how strong Ogryn is

[thorn cedar]

People suck at reading information anyway.

[nocturne dust]

There's definitely a 'best' Ogryn build

[thorn cedar]

You can display all you want but the majority can't really distill data points into anything useful outside of shitslinging comments.

[nocturne dust]

(I don't play Ogryn enough to know what it is, but you can absolutely distill down which is the most reliable/quickest with numbers)

[blissful solar]

yeah usually even if there's a perfect guide out it'll take months or longer for the general community or average member to take most of it in

[glacial vapor]

Honestly? Yes

We are balancing for H40 now. There is no escape

[nocturne dust]

Then nuke h40

[glacial vapor]

[blissful solar]

[nocturne dust]

Like my guide, which is definitely perfect and up-to-date and is definitely not incomplete

[ripe obsidian]

Just managed to win a trio H40 after AgentChaos had to leave halfway through

Maybe I am not, in fact, bad at this game

[cursive thorn]

read their name, you should have seen it coming

[ripe obsidian]

They promised to carry me. >:(

I had to carry my own damn self

But I was dumb and let a poxburster poxburst me right at the end, which was almost bad

[upper sun]

agent was being selfish in war............

[plucky flax]

Got called back to work for a 5 mins job

Bruh now I gotta go back. Drove like 300 miles today in total. Im ded

[plucky flax]

I did for long enough!!

[ripe obsidian]

Hey, I think I was not awful that time! I maybe even didn't need carrying

[ripe obsidian]

What is your job that you must drive so much?

[plucky flax]

Ye pretty good but you could afford to place bubble more aggressively

[rich spindle]

I enjoy the Byzantine variables and interactions, much more interesting this way

[plucky flax]

Its just today there was a thing where I gotta deliver some stuff to somewhere rapido

[ripe obsidian]

I was trying to be aggressive with the bubble. D:

[weary idol]

this literally only affects casual players

min maxers will learn how it works and min max harder

[plucky flax]

It was 99 miles each way. Then home to work is like 35 ish miles

[weary idol]

casual players will be confused and suffer for it

[plucky flax]

Anyway im going back and straight to bed

[weary idol]

disastrous start to my havoc adventures today

[plucky flax]

Its cos you said chorus is trash

So you only get trash zealots

Xd

[weary idol]

those 2 vigil stations had a FREAK running chainaxe on veteran

[ripe obsidian]

Well, when you are not exhausted and if you are so inclined, I would appreciate advice on how to bubble more aggressively

[weary idol]

who outdamaged the zealot and ogryn in melee both rounds

and was an all around really good player

I personally did well in all 3 games, but not well enough to win the day sadly

[plucky flax]

Sure I was recording that game. I can find a few examples.

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you

[weary idol]

I don't think bubble would have helped in the situations we wiped in either

[ripe obsidian]

I am feeling pretty good about being able to win even after you had to drop and the veteran was ded. We had 2 more bosses before we could revive him.

[nocturne dust]

1. Run at enemy
2. See lasers/bullets/muzzle flash
3. Deploy bubble as far forward as possible
4. Continue running

[plucky flax]

The ogryn was really good. The vet was a bit slow at killing specials at time but decent too

[strange wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-freaky-cat-level-infinity-gif-15287917168381984815

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, the ogryn did well

[bold condor]

what do i do after max level and good weapons/curios

like is there any benefit to the auric mode or w/e

i just dont see what the end game is

[nocturne dust]

Playing the game is the end game

[supple comet]

What's the current meta force greatsword?

[bold condor]

so there isnt one

[nocturne dust]

either mk

[nocturne dust]

There never is in any game

[supple comet]

I mostly meant the dump stat, perks and blessings haha

[nocturne dust]

dump warp res, +carapace, +unyielding

[glacial vapor]

If you have plenty of cash, you can use Brunt's armoury to roll for optimal stat weapons. But I think it's 10k per weapon

Cheaper if you just keep checking his regular shop until you find a good roll. They're pretty common in my experience but it can vary.

You can grab orange weapons from melk if you have his currency, they won't be optimal stats most likely but they'll be fine. Your blessings, perks and tree nodes matter more than minor stat changes

Curios, again keep checking brunts shop. You can also role for curios at melks

[nocturne dust]

blessings are preference except for tranquility/warp slice/blazing spirit, all 3 of which suck terribly

[bold condor]

im just wondering cause the gameplay loop has so far been do missions to get level 30, so it isnt a waste of time to invest into my gear, then realize that i have actually finished the game

[nocturne dust]

most people take wrath and riposte/shred

[nocturne dust]

Experiement with new weapons, try new builds, try to complete havoc 40

collect penances

🤷‍♂️

The game is what you make of it

[glacial vapor]

Playing harder diffs, crazy modifiers. The game just keeps getting better

[nocturne dust]

Hey now

we're only allowed to complain on the internet

[glacial vapor]

Uuuuhhhh, I mean... Dead game

[nocturne dust]

No, actually, it's not my game

[strange wyvern]

the soulblaze sucks?

[nocturne dust]

Blazing Spirit is only good on Voidblast

[jovial juniper]

Yes
All blazing Spirit blessing sucks
Except on Voidblast

[nocturne dust]

Every other weapon kills things on crits

so like, the soulblaze doesn't proc

and you have a wasted blessing slot

[loud girder]

max level is when the game starts
the end game is getting better and experminting with builds until u can do harder game modes where the game is completely different

[nocturne dust]

(and even if you didn't kill the thing, it has a low cap and doesn't really do much damage for how inconsistently it applies soulblaze)

Blazing Spirit might be good if it applied, like, a full 31 stacks to everything on the first crit

It's not even half that maxed, tho

It maxes at 8 or 12 iirc? You also need to crit a couple times to get there

[strange wyvern]

so is creeping flames not worth it as well then? When I saw warp rupture doing 200 max I was like, "there's no way the soulblaze could be worse"

[nocturne dust]

(Note: Voidblast caps at 6)

(It's just good because Voidblast's explosion range is massive and it basically applies 3 stacks to the whole area every crit)

[nocturne dust]

Creeping Flames is great, soulblaze is great

Blazing Spirit is bad

(except on Voidblast, of course)

Every staff's meta build is using soulblaze.

Only Voidblast uses blazing spirit. No other staff or weapon should ever bother with it outside of meme builds specifically for fire sword, and even then you have to do crazy things like dumping damage just to make Blazing Spirit actually do things

[strange wyvern]

Would be cool if the single target force swords caused a soulblaze explosion after it completed

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Blazing Spirit would've still not been great, but workable if they had let it work on FGS' ranged slice

they literally have Warp Slice almost as if taunting people to combo them

but sadly, it just doesn't work and the crit is completely worthless for the special

[strange wyvern]

Does the special just do no damage, I swear even at full charge I've seen walkers live it

[nocturne dust]

It has wonky targeting

and also pretty extreme damage falloff

at a single charge, horde will (mostly) die

at full charge, elites will (mostly) die

the survivors get by with warp shenanigans or something

At 0 charges, it's largely just for stagger

crit does not change these BPs, which is why Warp Slice is effectively worthless

[weary idol]

this is where bolt pistol comes in

anything that only mostly dies bleeds to death

puncture value

[nocturne dust]

well, the 'mostly' dies is from the wonky targeting, so 🅱️istol doesn't do anything

Altho I admit there's more utility for the bleed spam in Havoc where the BPs don't line up

[strange wyvern]

anything that only mostly dies will need another 3-4 shells from the combat shotgun 🗣️

[weary idol]

and where bulwarks do be lining up

being able to deal consistent bleed into infinite density is very nice utility for gun psyker to have

[nocturne dust]

Staffker with extra steps

[weary idol]

staffker with boss damage

[nocturne dust]

Not with autoshredder

[runic juniper]

Bistol bleed with assail is nice as well. carapace and shields of course stop the shards but it's a nice way to deal with stuff the bleed warp slice is less effective at

and if you dont equip the bistol, then it's still assail and not a 0 damage stagger

[clever elk]

do you guys have any tips for getting cliffhanger

[strange wyvern]

couple of places in a few maps where you can clump the hordes near cliffs
do not use shriek, the knockback is poo poo farts, instead use smite and release after chaining a few enemies, which causes knockdown

[clever elk]

THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN MISSING

[runic juniper]

the beginning portion of hab dreyko and chasm logistratum have a thin portion of the big bridge at the beginning, the 2nd big bridge from where you start in hab dreyko. try for one with hi intensity

[strange wyvern]

I think you can also use the push attacks on the force swords, idk though

[runic juniper]

pushes work, the push attack after only hits 1 guy but its a large stagger

smite is perfect for it though

just look in the direction you want to knock them back in and they fly

[clever elk]

icic

[runic juniper]

smite can knock enemies towards you if you turn away from them

[clever elk]

do you think it would work on the defense phase in the torrent with the 4 bridges

[runic juniper]

yeah thats a good spot too

[clever elk]

this is crazy

hell yeah thanks

[runic juniper]

but you gotta get to the finale, and have teammates let you do it and not just kill everything there too

[clever elk]

true

[cloud night]

Soulblaze blast staff is the way i see

[runic juniper]

yeah if you wanna breeze through havoc 40, purga bubble is the way to go

[dull scroll]

if you want the biggest number possible, it's purge and vent, with upgraded bb

though survival not guaranteed

[nocturne dust]

The biggest number possible would be vent purga with KF, and Warp Battery, but you would be running out of talent points elsewhere, like giving up KD

[analog agate]

The horror

[nocturne dust]

It is indeed horrific

[dull scroll]

It is actually true horror, because KD is doubly good with vent

[nocturne dust]

No true psyker gives up KD

Beloved said so

[analog agate]

[upper sun]

my beloved said i NEED the 2 extra warp charges and deflector is enough

[dull scroll]

this is my yolo vent build atm, have been contemplating ditching KD

[nocturne dust]

your beloved is a demon masquerading as the Emperor, while my beloved is the actual Emperor, clearly

[dull scroll]

pretty much don't dps boss and you should be able to get away with no KD

[nocturne dust]

5% crit too nice to drop

[analog agate]

You can just dodge the boss and not use kd

[upper sun]

ur beloved is the the shard of the emperor that had his love for poetry while mine had his COURAGE

[nocturne dust]

I would drop EE and Quietude/Soulstealer before KD

[nocturne dust]

You run out of dodges

[nocturne dust]

says the ogryn

[upper sun]

our beloveds agree

my beloved also said the first BB upgrade isnt really that good without EP

more warpcharge spam more better

[analog agate]

The only time I have missed KD is clutch revives. Never needed it for bosses

[cloud night]

Yea I know
I dont run scoreb for two reasons
One idc about numbers
Two I literally cant lmao

[nocturne dust]

I mean, KD is nice because it frees up my curios from stamina management entirely

like, all I need is a +max stam curio at worst, which I would need anyway without KD

[cloud night]

I should swap off the stam curio since I always take KD also

At least for the staff builds

But having said extra stam is nice anyway so

[prime elk]

I don’t take KD, and I don’t take stam

[nocturne dust]

You die?

[prime elk]

Yeah. If my team kills me.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-country-barrel-jumping-barrel-hopping-bouncing-gif-6657636410634776333

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-rocking-shocked-trauma-family-guy-gif-3629549

[cloud night]

This u?

Smyker 🫵

[dull scroll]

I should stop taking KD on all my builds and see what happens, can't derank anyway so imma do it for science 😏

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[analog agate]

You realize you don’t use it for 99% of the time

[dull scroll]

I do, with correct positioning you don't block 99% of the time

that said the times you do need to block if you don't clutch through you die

[nocturne dust]

aggressive positioning tho

[dull scroll]

all these 40 games the only 2 scenarios where block/KD comes into play is with bosses, and with ragers

but if you fail block in those scnarios you gone, and generally team wipe

[nocturne dust]

I can think of a lot more uses than that

but you do you

[dull scroll]

there is actually one other scenario, especially with non-bubble build, deflect vs gunner/reaper 😒

but yolo

[wind wind]

Oof. Just had an auric damnation match, hab block drayko, Phage tree, power supply outage (thx alot quickplay 🥴). Was bubble psyker with heavy sword, Vigilant autogun, Smite and bubble. Had a zealot, a vet and an ogryn (MVP in my humble opinion).

The start was fun. Right at the beginning, two people dead one bot, me. I'll spare you the details, with many hickups, many people comming, dying, ragequitting and new people joining aswell as the ogryn carrying us all throughout the game, we won, after like 50 mins and ten deaths 💀🚬

It is 2am, i am going to bed

What a day. 🌝💤

[ornate hamlet]

Love me some phage tree. The final stand at the end is chaotic and epic as hell.

Congrats! Enjoy rest.

[rich spindle]

No kd no stam

+2stam on knife

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/david-rose-gif-3214199033367100027

[rich spindle]

Only the strongest gamers can conceive of this

The weak cower before it

[nocturne dust]

You're right

Too weak to run off-meta

[strong gulch]

IDK if got cliffhanger or not, but here's a list of recommendations. #psyker-class message

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-wonyoung-gif-15276262740223942189

[steady torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202633604275118180/1366900677120626799/spreading-misinformation-gifs.gif

[indigo siren]

Tis the nighttime

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-spray-paint-bug-eye-man-gif-21526624

I do

You don’t need kd

Any situation you do need is is most likely a wipe anyway

Why are you blocking so much you should attack

And dodge

[strong gulch]

I like opting out of stam management.

Did a couple games to help with tainted devices; and so many of my hits didn't register. My ping was really good too.

[nocturne dust]

Spoken like someone who doesn't use KD

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-feline-meme-funny-gif-8764472215214951735

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-plankton-wheres-the-funny-no-funny-not-funny-gif-10305884192944207683

[proper osprey]

I will transform you into a Pygmy marmoset

[strong gulch]

ew

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gouax-marm-futuristic-monkey-funny-gif-13758831

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yuck-gif-8157463497652432250

[proper osprey]

How dare you

They’re like

The best monkey

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-excuse-me-judging-judges-you-staring-gif-17681702

[strong gulch]

monkeys icky
apes icky

including us

[plucky flax]

Deadvoid KD simp give it a rest.

[narrow herald]

wrong

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-she-tirned-me-into-a-newt-gif-14862319

[jovial juniper]

Good omens reference

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-john-cleese-dead-pan-contempt-judgmental-gif-3465091

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/аниме-птицы-ласточкт-anime-bird-gif-12389667774000489309

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/good-omens-good-omens-crowley-happy-gif-14750529

I don't even watch good omens

[strong gulch]

[jovial juniper]

What I got from the snippets I saw is that
Crow from persona 5 and azir from League of Legends are the opposite of each other and are trying to keep peace and quiet as all hell (and heaven) break loose

There's also a sick ass hotrod in there

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-memes-omori-wendy's-sir-this-is-a-wendy’s-mcdonalds-gif-10606255422517932247

[strong gulch]

I liked the show, but I am still reeling from this #psyker-class message.

I thought you were being purposely funny obtuse. Now I'm wondering if this was genuine.

[jovial juniper]

Well that's a Monty Python scene, no?

[strong gulch]

Yes

kk.

Was funny obtuse.

[jovial juniper]

[strong gulch]

[jovial juniper]

He turned itself into a newt
Funnies-

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-youre-a-loony-forest-knight-gif-17173503

[wraith sphinx]

someone called for an omen? 😏

[jovial juniper]

Certified Deep Rock Galactic Omen moment

And speaking on omens
Random good omens short

The algorithm
It's in the walls

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/good-bug-dead-bug-bugs-starship-troopers-gif-27594834

[wraith sphinx]

why's the gunner not shooting the weakspots

dumbass

[jovial juniper]

Oh no the shield is running out
You better get your coil gun and Perma fear it

[wind wind]

Thx. I am awake now.

Yeah, the ending is always wild. The spawnpoints surround you completley. You also have next to no cover. What also fucked with me alot was that it was pitch black. The only good thing about that is that the enemy gunners got to be close to shoot at you. Other than that, not seeing anything fucking sucks

[torn kernel]

is that fuckin Starsector

[wraith sphinx]

yes it is

[plucky flax]

Does anyone have it when a teammate spawn at a rescue location they have lag?

[wraith sphinx]

yes but rarely

[flat nexus]

warpburn delux

[zinc phoenix]

Mcdonald’s femboy needs to shave his ear hair

[wraith sphinx]

never saw this line before

[autumn lark]

neat jokaero line

[wraith sphinx]

funny space orangutans

[strange wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/sleezeymir-orangutan-monkey-saw-wood-gif-23341706

[digital oxide]

For curios for psyker:
Health>Toughness?

[wraith sphinx]

other way around imo

[upper sun]

yeah toughness is easier to regenerate and helps with shooters more

[strange wyvern]

Toughness/Stamina>Wounds>Health imo

[wraith sphinx]

stagger on health damage can be really punishing too

which is why I decided to ditch health curios for my psyker

[strange wyvern]

I just like having 1 extra wound for consistancy (I played too much left 4 dead)

[wraith sphinx]

rn I'm running one +3 stamina curio and two toughness curios

[digital oxide]

fair enough, I was doing my builds with toughness>health anyway, but wanted to confirm that was efficient

I have 3 toughness, but did have 2 toughness and 1 health for a bit

[prime elk]

1 health is very good

Wouldn’t take more than that though

[plucky flax]

3 wounds.

[prime elk]

Martyrdom psyker

[wraith sphinx]

crystalline will too

one true path to freedom...

[marble crater]

wounds over health?

[strange wyvern]

No questions about it

[marble crater]

[strange wyvern]

Assuming I'll always get bs'd by a poxburster at least once per mission, 1 wound curio is more effective hp then the health curio would give 🔥

[marble crater]

Have you tried not letting that happen?

[deft stump]

Need better teammates, clearly.

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, that stage is even worse if you get the foggy map mixed with the darkness. But it adds a nice horror element!

[wraith sphinx]

assume you will always dodge the burster instead and you won't need the wound curio anymore

[prime elk]

1 hp curio would allow you to survive two bursters though

[wind wind]

It was between 1am and 2am for me. Lol. Any element of awe/mystique and horror drowned amidst the fevery haze and fight between my exhausted, tired brain and the energy drink i had two hours before ....

In the end it was like a math exam on a monday morning after a bender weekend. You hand it in, have no idea what happened and If you pass, you can only attribute it to the benificence of a higher power lmao.

I was just so glad that mission was fucking over

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/good-soldiers-starwars-clone-follow-orders-gif-15758659

[wind wind]

Me whenever i see a beast of nurgle.

[wind wind]

Please help the uneducated, what does KD stand for?

[queen fog]

Kinetic deflection

Main talent used for making your stam bar less used

[wraith sphinx]

KD is fantastic for clutch revives so you no longer lose missions if your teammates enjoy kissing the floor too much

kd-less psyker is just like, why

[wind wind]

Ah. Given that i pulled all five of my psyker builds from the Internet and i have barely an idea of how they work/what they do, nice to know i guess lol.

The only build i did a deep dive into in order to better play with it is my gun psyker build

[queen fog]

I would say make your own build but not everybody has the time for that

[wraith sphinx]

I can share my builds

no staffker though because I don't play that

actually just one build because I didn't update the rest

[wind wind]

I dont like psyker enough. I just googled: havoc bubble build, telecinetic force staff crit build, voidblast/voidstrike build, Flame staff build, gun psyker build; COPY AND PASTE and that was it lol. The only class ive ever bothered reading all of the nodes was ogryn.

[wraith sphinx]

shame, but to each their own

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ec65923-24ea-43a2-ab3c-a78b2690bc4a/my-gun-psyker-wassail

here's mine

[wind wind]

With psyker i usually just cycle through these five mentioned builds from left to right, one completed mission per build until my weeklys tasks are done and then i switch classes. Rinse and repeat until all four classes have their weekly tasks done

[wraith sphinx]

I see.

[wind wind]

I dont have a single assail build because a) i cant count till ten, my adhd wont let me
B) i dont wanna play without psykers best talent tree node (the cooldown one)

[cunning crown]

have you got a link? I'd love to read this

[wind wind]

Lol. Minmaxer discriminarion.

Couldnt be me

Funnily enough i found i had most fun with scriers gaze gun psyker, recon lasgun, but the most success ive had with the telecinetic force staff crit build.

[cloud night]

I dont even feel bad
Too many motherfuckers trying to turn games into spreadsheet simulators lmao

"Minmax"

Minmax a job application you fuckin commies

[wraith sphinx]

The game does kinda go too far with stats obtuseness but that guy's heart is in the right place

[plucky flax]

Play oggy press left click and call it a day.

[cunning crown]

i can't find this interview on google

doesn't seem to exist?

[thorn cedar]

it exists, it was said in a very different way though