psyker-class

[torn kernel]

oh

MTG does it the other way around

which is what i'm used to

[marble crater]

Nerd

[wraith sphinx]

🥴

Sounds very confusing

[torn kernel]

it is lmao

[tough vine]

I really don't understand why their is no "Havoc" public game MM. Make it hard to access one of the weekly rewards :/

[deft stump]

I wish ppl with that mindset not ask unless they are happy to be the only one punished for a loss.

[plucky flax]

You can do my map if you want.

[deft stump]

You get randoms with 380-400 gear joining and barely doing stuff but die.

[tough vine]

But you're fine with not being able to access one part of the game for newcomers. Great 🙂

[deft stump]

Host your own game then.

[tough vine]

Need two to make a party 🙂

[deft stump]

If you just want to join others, it's the same issue.

[marble crater]

Havoc is not really something for newcomers to begin with, it's the hardest content intended to play after you have enough experience

That said no Havoc matchmaking is one of the biggest complaints and people said it would die before it even released because of the party finder

[tough vine]

I'm bored of Auric Damnation... and I can't access any of the party that are waiting for people doesn't really matter the Havoc level.

[plucky flax]

Not if you use lfg tool?

Then ppl can request to join you

[tough vine]

Oh I see

[marble crater]

Why can't you access them?

[tough vine]

Sorry since I've never used LFG and I saw it was greyed out, I assume you needed two members to create a party. You just have to select an option. my bad.

[tough vine]

I get rejected.

[marble crater]

Happens to everyone

Party finder bad

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah havoc will stay flopvoc until matchmaking replaces the party finder

[deft stump]

Guy doesn't know I get rejections to even low runs for being 130~

[loud girder]

dont think normal matchmaking will work

[marble crater]

Yeah, super weird that he doesn't have this piece of information, smh

[loud girder]

i spy on people's builds in aurics and a lot of them join with no upgraded weapons and meme builds
havoc is designed around tight teams

at least for 30 and above

[tough vine]

You can do both at the same time. Public MM and Party Finder. I don't see why you can't have both really.

[tough vine]

I don't understand, is there a mod that puts a number on your build ? where is that 130 coming from ?

[deft stump]

Because who takes punishment for a loss when you get trolls or fresh 30s joining your say, 35?

[deft stump]

Class lvls. PC has a mod showing it.

[plucky flax]

I'm running derank service.

[tough vine]

Don't use Public MM then if you feel you're only getting trolls and newly 30's. You can still use the party finder.

it's a non-issue. I'm not saying "get rid off Party finder and only do Public MM" I'm saying "Do both"

[marble crater]

What makes your service worth it, why can't I derank myself for the same experience?

[plucky flax]

Because you can experience 40 with me.

Better than derank in whatever rank you're at.

It's painful.

[marble crater]

I am at... 27 now maybe?

[plucky flax]

Ambitious players joining 40 but they sus.

[real crow]

can my level 11 psyker join?

I'm super pro

[wraith sphinx]

Real, which class did you do it with?

I clawed my way to 29 on my terrible old vet build

[weak sierra]

All the descriptions in this game are really vague and obtuse. All you can really do is field testing.

[strange wyvern]

I have upgraded weapons and meme builds

[wraith sphinx]

Wanna carry my gunker as a joke haha

[plucky flax]

Sure but I think you need to be 30 to do havoc

[marble crater]

Psyker, I was at 40 before the rework and only did one mission after the derank reset to stay at 30

[real crow]

I'm level 30 in spirit.

It counts.

👍

[wraith sphinx]

Damn, impressive. I stopped after reaching 29 because my wrist started to get sore

[marble crater]

It was a lot easier before the changes, to be fair

[torn kernel]

havoc 1 enthusiasts represent 😤

[wraith sphinx]

Sure feels like it

But holy fuck havoc pubs were better during 1.0

[deft stump]

Just spam books and bubbles.

[torn kernel]

honestly even if they just get rid of the jacked up hitmass i'd be fine with it

[wraith sphinx]

Toughness grace removal is what really kills me

Everything else is handleable w bad pubs

[torn kernel]

oh yeah that too

[deft stump]

To be fair, if you have enough bubbles, you covered for the main issues. Now it's more bs.

[torn kernel]

you really don't notice it until they take it away

[weary idol]

dogshit boring agonizing turtle meta slop

[torn kernel]

oh no i don't mean havoc 1.0

i mean lvl 1 havocs

[wraith sphinx]

I hate bubble

Bubble is BORING

I don't want to be a bubble metaslave shining shout veteran's boots I want to rise to the occasion and prove gunker haters wrong

[torn kernel]

the low enemy health and massive fuckhuge hordes give me the power fantasy i expect from a warhammer game

if only they let you do havocs solo

[deft stump]

Low havs were fun for that reason.

[wraith sphinx]

I didn't really enjoy low level havocs tbh

[hardy coral]

i love both ive tried so many different Psyker builds but since i play with randoms, i use Bubble and even with Bubble some players still manage to get downed.

[wraith sphinx]

Felt like a downgrade compared to maelstroms

[deft stump]

Some people like big hordes with no hp.

[wraith sphinx]

Are they actually big

I havent played a low lvl havoc since release

[deft stump]

If you do 9-10s, was like auric spawns with malice hp.

[wraith sphinx]

Huh, probably didn't notice it then

Malice hp is miniscule

[deft stump]

Or maybe just our luck.

But it is what I find fun.

Just smashing into massive weak hordes as a pure power fantasy.

[wraith sphinx]

Fair nuff

[hardy coral]

i find it more satisfying when there's like 30 Maulers and 10 Crushers running my Direction and knocking them about with Voidstrike, its even better with Stamina stim.

[deft stump]

If only malice maulers.

[hardy coral]

i want a Cryo staff, think that would be interesting.

[marble crater]

Staff that freezes enemies in place?

[tough vine]

The only Havoc I've ever done was lvl 7, and it's way easier than a normal Heresy run :/

[wraith sphinx]

1-10 is malice difficulty

[marble crater]

[wraith sphinx]

E.g. enemies have malice hp

[tough vine]

I see what would be Damnation ? 20-30's ?

[wraith sphinx]

21 and beyond

21 also happens to be THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE FILTER

[hardy coral]

Freezes and then shatters, could be great for applying brittleness, could also be a way to maybe... cover fire from flamers and or bombers?

[tough vine]

So that's the level I should strive for when I start if I'm comfortable with Damnation and Auric Damnation ?

[weary crane]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bb9ee95-0b68-43d7-abd0-05c8aae4258e/soulblaze-storm

I switched it up

Super weird tree now

[wraith sphinx]

Just keep playing until havoc breaks you 🙂

Or stay in aurics and have a fun like a normal player

[tough vine]

I'll do that. I just want to see what Havoc is about in higher levels.

[wraith sphinx]

Suffering mostly

Like you need to actually be good at the game and know the maps or you'll die in seconds

But doing things perfectly isn't enough, the rest of the team needs to not make mistakes too

[weary crane]

https://youtu.be/MOENcN6lSnc

This is your average fight in h40

[wraith sphinx]

And no splitting off, which should be kinds obvious lol

[tough vine]

I've seen a few H40 run, seems fun to me. I do understand that I'm not at that level yet, That's why I'm looking on where to start level wise.

[plucky flax]

I'm failing havoc 27 too.

Game too hard.

[marble crater]

Even with the famous bubble knight?

[plucky flax]

Nah I was playing surge creeping flames.

[marble crater]

That's the problem then

[plucky flax]

Thinking emperor's fading light 1 it should be okay but teammates are kind of headless chickens.

[deft stump]

Hi,300 ping helps with it.

[plucky flax]

[wraith sphinx]

27 is emperors fading light 2?

[marble crater]

Think that starts at 30?

[plucky flax]

30 or 31 yeah.

Doing a 29 now with 3 ogryns this should be ez.

[plucky flax]

Yes?

[deft stump]

No, being headless chicken.

[plucky flax]

Omg me too.

[deft stump]

You literally have no clue what is going on since everything is delayed by half a sec.

[marble crater]

We have a clue about what is going on though

Maybe you don't

[deft stump]

PANIC.

[strong gulch]

🙋

[tough vine]

does someone has a good inferno staff build ?

[analog agate]

For havoc or non havoc?

[tough vine]

non havoc

[analog agate]

Non havoc is in pins

[tough vine]

oh ok ^^

thanks 🙂

[plucky flax]

Nobody can ever find a good inferno build

[weary crane]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bb9ee95-0b68-43d7-abd0-05c8aae4258e/soulblaze-storm

🙂

[marble crater]

Hi

[deft stump]

You have no clue what is going on as well?

[strong gulch]

Hi

[strong gulch]

A lot of times yeah. I have the player outline mod and I still can't find my teammates

[deft stump]

No mods, just confused and panicked.

[strong gulch]

I'm still confused with mods. Clearly they're not cheating.

[deft stump]

They are, but not even cheats can help some.

Just lost either way.

Is like having beeg long beams guiding a player and they still get lost.

Why do you think having a beeg map, a minimap and glowing paths help so much.

[real crow]

Tbh, just knowing an enemy's health, and your relative damage to it, is a big deal.

In a pack of 6 crushers, knowing exactly which ones to focus to kill off quickly is match changing.

[deft stump]

We know. It's cheating. Ppl will say otherwise. It's co-op so not as bad.

[real crow]

My main thought on it is a lot of these people are like 'I am a super smart high difficulty player'

While playing with every single QoL thing under the sun.

Undermines it just a bit.

I'm not advocating for purity or whatever

[deft stump]

I dunno, I'm too lazy to mod.

[real crow]

But when some of those people routinely bash other people for being bad

comes across as...not great

[torn kernel]

i just stick to HUD mods to i don't have to deal with the dogshit vanilla peril fx

[real crow]

I am heavily colourblind

[strong gulch]

A lot of them are accessibility. The main difference between when I mod and don't is how quickly my hands get tired.

[real crow]

I've not explored psyker that much (levelling it now)

[deft stump]

Lazy/Lazy, totally too lazy.

[real crow]

but yeah, the little orange or red number

is not great for my eyes

[torn kernel]

ikr

[strong gulch]

There are def qol ones like block on opening chat.

[real crow]

imagine if that number was literally the same colour as most backgrounds

[real crow]

Now that is the biggest cheat of them all.

[deft stump]

I want the excuse to advocate for accessiblity built into the game for ppl in general.

[torn kernel]

well too bad, it can be

[real crow]

Real hardcore people deal with abusive messages like manly mannington men.

[torn kernel]

AND it's translucent to add to it

[torn kernel]

block in game with your melee like in vermintide, not blocking players

[marble crater]

Block as in block attacks while typing, not blocking other players

[real crow]

if god intended it

ti would be in game

[torn kernel]

weird how they removed that in dt

[deft stump]

You get my fan.

Fatshark no PTT on controller.

[marble crater]

I will just turn your volume all the way down next time

Problem solved

-20 dezibel might still rupture my ears though

[torn kernel]

Karien speaks straight into your mind via the warp, there's no stopping her

[deft stump]

Westerners dunno the RL QoL that is a fan.

[marble crater]

You think we don't have fans?

[deft stump]

Seems like it.

[marble crater]

We just don't point them directly at our mics

[deft stump]

You don't even have air cons that can double duty as heaters.

Though whoever is insane enough to set an aircon to warm...

[marble crater]

Because they are completely unnecessary, in Germany at least

[deft stump]

I don't need warm when it can be 33°C in the middle of the night.

[deft stump]

It's pointed at me though.

[real crow]

it's currently a balmy 20

[marble crater]

Here as well

[deft stump]

33°C 81% humidity.

[marble crater]

Sucks

[real crow]

I had to stop assembling the furniture I was doing

because I got too warm

[deft stump]

20°C is lower than "Winter".

[real crow]

20C is like...less than shorts weather if i can manage it

[deft stump]

That's like 24°C but raining all the time.

May or may not be storming.

[real crow]

it's been around freezing most nights, tbh

which has been nice

[deft stump]

Night is 30+ here.

I mean, is 11:19pm. 33°C.

[real crow]

I don't deal well with more than 21C

just heat coming out of my face and hands

idle room temp is about 15-16C

working temp ideally is like 0-5C

[deft stump]

Why sometimes I don't think ppl understand how warm it is.

Or hot.

[real crow]

I've been in 44C

[deft stump]

My room is an oven due to PC.

[real crow]

And I used to work in trucks

heated in the sun

up past 50C

for several hours

[deft stump]

That is outside temps at night, cooler.

[real crow]

I dare you to unload a 15m truck at like 55C, over 3 hours, and tell me I don't know what heat is D:

[deft stump]

That's like going out at noon, the sun blaring down at your head.

[real crow]

while doing constant manual labour, yes

[deft stump]

Then you fall ill due to it and bedridden for days.

[real crow]

I used to go through about 6-8 litres of water in a night

some of this was also while wearing a covid mask

[deft stump]

Yep, I know. You are forced to for years.

Lifted only like last year?

Some jobs still force it.

Though it is to add extra precautions since food handling.

[real crow]

does assail count as a ranged kill for weekly quests?

[deft stump]

Yes.

Same for staff.

Dunno about the special attack... but I expect those to be melee.

[tough vine]

What is worse, working in a 55ºC heat for a prolonged time, or work in a -20ºC Industrial Fridge for a prolonged time.

[real crow]

55C

[deft stump]

Depends on how your body is built. For some, it's easier to warm up, for others, easier to cool down.

[real crow]

you can layer up for -20C

[mental rock]

coming from someone who is currently in the desert... heat is worse

[real crow]

the way you deal with 55C is to make it not 55C

otherwise you just deal with it as is

[deft stump]

50 billion air coolers and fans.

[real crow]

cold you can always wear thicker/better gear for

[weary idol]

heat is worse every single time

you can layer up to avoid cold

you can not go outside naked to be less hot

and peeling off your skin is inadvisable

[deft stump]

You mean dress for summer if it's positive °C?

[tough vine]

You can.. but due to laws it's better not too 🙂 (unless you have a nudist beach near your house.. in which case do whatever you want :D)

[real crow]

as mentioned, I am pretty toasty warm at 21C

I can't take more off at that point

[deft stump]

I really only needed more than thin innerwear when it went to -4 to -10.

[weary idol]

No amount of dressing up for summer is going to stop 55 celsius from feeling like shit

[deft stump]

I mean I dress for summer at 4 deg cel.

Or as usual.

I might wear innerwear if it's windy.

[wraith sphinx]

You can't really do anything about the extreme heat except stay hydrated, not wear black clothed and suffer

[deft stump]

I wear black.

[real crow]

black clothes are fine, so long as you're not in direct sunlight for too long

[deft stump]

You are better off with reflective colours though.

[wraith sphinx]

I do too but try to avoid it during peak summet

I'm enjoying the milder winters but 45°C summer can fuck off

[real crow]

you're better off with black, if you're not in direct sunlight

just happens that sunlight can be mostly everywhere

so you want to absorb as little of it as possible

black emits better, but absorbs more

[deft stump]

Why do you think my sleep cycle is whack?

I want to die before 7pm.

[tough vine]

It's normal in the south of Spain to get that heat in summer unfortunatly. Just invest in a good AC system and don't go out between 13pm-17pm.

[weary idol]

alas

[wraith sphinx]

Mediterranean moment truly

[weary idol]

work

Luckily since I run an antique store I only have to go out a few times a month to get new inventory and set up shop

[deft stump]

1 to 4 pm. 13:00 to 17:00.

[weary idol]

And most of that is in shop with many fans

[real crow]

5pm

[weary idol]

But loading shit in the sun sucks

[wraith sphinx]

Potentially even dangerous if you don't take breaks

[weary idol]

And it's not something you can make suck any less

[deft stump]

I can't math. Am tired from the heat.

[real crow]

when I used to load/unload those trucks, I would bring in a 2 litre bottle of ice water from home

I had 2 on rotation that would alternately freeze

we had big fans outside the trucks

[deft stump]

It's dark now, still 33°C because.

[real crow]

so you would work for 5-10 minutes

come out of the truck with the other person on rotation

stand by the fan, drink water

and then swap

put the ice against your skin, on the arteries, to try to carry cold blood around your body faster, etc

more than about 10 minutes of hard physical labour in those hot trucks was not a good idea

[deft stump]

Why I never understood why Westerners come here during their winter.

[tough vine]

I always heard that drinking natural temperature water was better than ice cold, during very heated summers.

[weak sierra]

Isn't that the reason spaniards came up with the siesta? Because it's too hot to do any work?

[deft stump]

Why would you want to suffer 30-37°C?

[real crow]

for a lot of people that's comfortable

[deft stump]

This is assuming not a VERY hot day.

[tough vine]

Yes, it's exactly why.

[real crow]

it's fairly moot

if you're actively trying to cool your body, rather than hydrate, I would go with colder water

if you're trying to min-max the value the water has on body hydration, then probably

[deft stump]

That's like cooler summer.

Unless you get a bad day.

Then just summer.

[weary idol]

summer is miserable

[deft stump]

Thus, it confuses me.

[wraith sphinx]

And summers are just gonna keep getting worse 🙂

[real crow]

Can't comment. Would suggest asking the people who do it.

I prefer cold places and mountains and such.

[weak sierra]

It's times like these that I'm glad I live in Finland. Most people don't realize, but this country exists at the same latitudes as Alaska. Which means, during summer months there's hardly any darkness. You can stay up the whole night without needing any artificial light. Gotta wonder why some people take summer vacations in the south, because the summer is the most miserable part of the year in equatorial regions.

[real crow]

I'm fairly used to explaining to Canada/US people that the UK is north of basically every major population centre in those places.

[wraith sphinx]

I've been to uk

Definitely prefer its climate to mediterranean

[real crow]

It's been pretty solidly sunny the last 3-4 weeks.

Basically only rained last weekend.

Highs of like 15-22C, around my parts.

More or less ideal, by my standards.

[deft stump]

I know.

[wraith sphinx]

And by mine

[real crow]

Only problem is you can basically never guarantee that.

It rains less in summer, but not never.

You plan your holiday and you just happen to hit the one week of summer that it rains non-stop.

[wraith sphinx]

I mean i'm used to frequent overcast so no real change there

[deft stump]

That is rich ppl aircon.

[real crow]

We don't have AC.

[wraith sphinx]

I've got ac but I strive to use it as little as possible

[deft stump]

Well, you also don't have casual daily 35°C for like 85% of the year.

[plucky flax]

Nobody ever have ac in UK.

[deft stump]

Even at night.

[plucky flax]

We just suffer every summer.

[wraith sphinx]

And when I do I never set it to over 5 degrees lower than outside temperature so I don't give myself temperature shock when I go outside

[real crow]

I used to live in a place that got up to 38C indoors in the summer.

But yeah, we do not.

[deft stump]

At that point, might as well not turn it on.

[wraith sphinx]

Also last summer's heatwave was so bad it caused a meltdown in the regional power plant idiots overcranked their ACs

[wraith sphinx]

Nah it helps a ton

[plucky flax]

Also hit 3 mil now on a really long and painful game. Purple + 21st Xd

[wraith sphinx]

21st is my fave modifier

And I'm biased because I first started playing the game when they first appeared

[deft stump]

I mean they also left it on the entire time.

[plucky flax]

Im really close to 100 assists now then gotta frind 37 mortis after that

[deft stump]

Mortis is easy though.

Is just brain ded fun till trapper wave.

[torn kernel]

anything over 25c is instant death

i hate the sun

[tough vine]

trapper wave is manageable, sniper wave though is death incarnate

[deft stump]

Void grenades funni.

[deft stump]

I'm nocturnal for a reason.

[wary flax]

Just had the worst psyker game ever.

Feels like the vet and other psyker on my team weren't doing anything, so I was constantly getting overrun and downed.

At one point I was spectating the other psyker trying to melee a gunner with the staff for like 15 seconds.

Like, bro. Ok, hit the gunner once to knock him over, but then shoot. Or pull out your sword, I know you have one.

[real crow]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-enkamp-karate-nerd-bo-kobudo-kata-gif-25702421

[deft stump]

Melee with staff only works if you take smite and the two other subnodes.

[strange wyvern]

Live vampire reaction

[weak sierra]

That's actually what 40k is really about
"oh I have a psychic staff?"
"WHY DON'T I USE IT TO BONK THE GUY IN THE HEAD WITH IT"

[deft stump]

More hiss and withdraw.

[tough vine]

Smite is meta then ? Nice!

[wary flax]

I mean, a charged staff bonk can stagger most things, from what I've seen. And they did knock the gunner to the floor with the staff, but then they kept bonking him until dead, which took forever.

The psyker had a full mastery electro staff and a full mastery demon's claw.

I didn't see a single parry.

Or devil's claw, whatever it's called.

The parry sword.

[deft stump]

Is a meme thing. Ask @formal harness about it.

[deft stump]

Cos they did not run the meme.

[patent wing]

they killed quell cancel on purga? for lmb?

[strong gulch]

All of QC

[weary idol]

good riddance frankly

[patent wing]

😭

those clowns

[verbal thistle]

thank god they did

[patent wing]

skill expression?`whats that?

[weary idol]

yeah your skill expression means fuck all

[verbal thistle]

breaking the game? Whats that?

[strong gulch]

They just had to adjust the M1 on bolt primaries.

[deft stump]

Bet you use a macro for it.

[weary idol]

when that same skill expression enabled macro users to destroy lobbies

[patent wing]

ofc but thats a skill too

[weary idol]

no it isn't

[patent wing]

idc what u think

the fact that ppl couldnt do that prove me right

[weary idol]

of course you don't that's why you came in here to be defensive and chant "muh skill expression" about a broken exploit being rightfully patched

[strong gulch]

Well, assail QC is still there for some reason.

[patent wing]

where am i defensive

[weary idol]

should have nerfed the staves into the ground too while they were at it

but oh well can't be perfect

[strong gulch]

There are other quell cancels that sre not M1 machine gun macros abuse.

[deft stump]

Some ppl just can't play normally. Is just how it is.

[patent wing]

fire staff literally unuseable without lmb spam

[weary idol]

and I won't shed a single tear for their passing because they deserved to go too

[verbal thistle]

LMAO

[strong gulch]

That is not true.

[weary idol]

assail quell cancel should be removed as well

[strong gulch]

ok

Are we removing all animation cancels?

[deft stump]

Wot. Unless you have extreme arthritis...

[patent wing]

that just shows that i am correct and u just whiney about staves

[weary idol]

oh no I think a lot more than that needs to be nerfed

the recent buffs to right tree psyker should also be reverted

[patent wing]

still the quell cancel delete is a way to disengage with ur hardest gamers

and it IS a skill expression to learn about hidden mechanics and implement them, even if if means to macro it.

[weary idol]

there's no skill expression to macros it's literally having a program do it for you

[patent wing]

like i dont wanna ruin my fingers by spamming a button, its not that its mechanically skillfull

[weary idol]

it's as much skill expression as aimbotting is

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[patent wing]

crafting the macro is a skill

[analog agate]

Lol what

[patent wing]

the fact that most people didnt use it just shows it

no matter what you guys cry about

maxis annoy me

[tough vine]

coding a cheat or hack is a skill too... but it's a banable offence so yeah .. kind of mute point

[strong gulch]

The macro to make quell cancel happen was silly and too far. One that just spams M1 at regular speed is fine tho.

[prime elk]

wasn't quell cancel macro bannable

[patent wing]

different stuff, u can do quell cancel manually without problems

[verbal thistle]

it wa supposed to be, but there was no bans from what I've seen and heard

[patent wing]

its just annoying and arthritis giving

[verbal thistle]

@prime elk

[weary idol]

I dunno I reported every person I saw use it, and I haven't seen them since so maybe?

[prime elk]

naturally

[verbal thistle]

[patent wing]

bet you dont play staves

[tough vine]

if it's a glitch and you are abusing a glitch, it's the same for me as hacking or cheating.. at least in my books. Lets hope ToS is less straightforward than I am.

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[weary idol]

I don't, because they're overpowered and boring as sin

[deft stump]

Wot. This is psyker mains.

[weary idol]

I instead play gun psyker which is also overpowered but fun

[patent wing]

yeah idk maybe the never use lmb

[wraith sphinx]

And incredibly hated for some reason

[deft stump]

On the PURGA???

[patent wing]

debatable, im on the side that hidden knowledge is good for the playerbase

[deft stump]

Where all the stagger is???

[strange wyvern]

I like voidblast :3

[patent wing]

yeah maybe they dont play burga at all

[strong gulch]

QC was not a glitch.

[patent wing]

yeah maybe @tough vine was just to bad to craft a macro xd

[weary idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710745951236522019/1288252692149440512/caption-5-1.gif

[strong gulch]

I can't craft macros either.

[tough vine]

I wasn't even playing furing QC, I've came back 2-3 weeks ago to the game.. haven't played since beta before that

[prime elk]

exploit's prob the better word for it

not a glitch

[strong gulch]

QC has been a thing since launch.

[prime elk]

classic fatshart, takes them years to fix it lol

[patent wing]

did they disable trauma qc too?

[patent wing]

then stop talking about

literally any below 500 levels shouldnt talk

[verbal thistle]

LMAO

[strange wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-12450451651611168773

[wary flax]

Also, I didn't spectate the veteran, but they were using infiltrate.

Now, tbf, I also play veteran with infiltrate, but I don't suck at it. I will do objectives, I will use infiltrate to help teammates, etc. Not sure what this dude was doing, but it wasn't helping much.

[wraith sphinx]

Lol least cunty high level player

[verbal thistle]

average QC user

not that smart I see

[vernal temple]

This dog pounced so hard it overflew and landed there, now it can't get to us. Is it stupid?

[prime elk]

prob gets turned into a pancake the moment a crusher pack shows up

[verbal thistle]

I NEED MY EXPLOIT TO WIN!!!!!!!!

[strong gulch]

It's an animation cancel and the devs even said themselves that animation cancels were an integral part of gameplay.

What they didn't want was what happened with M1 spam macro. They said that they weren't going to touch anything else, but I guess it was too complicated or too much work.

[strange wyvern]

yes, yes it is

[patent wing]

ive been doing duo auric maels but go ahead and trashtalk

[deft stump]

Wow, an elitist. Are you serious.

[prime elk]

it's part of an intended gameplay mechanic, but used in a way that the devs hadn't foreseen or desired. so it's an exploit.

[weary idol]

duo

auric

maelstrom

[verbal thistle]

I've been doing duo havoc 40

[prime elk]

feel bad for the other guy. must be brutal on him.

[wraith sphinx]

Nobody cares blud you're a sad little creature

[vernal temple]

Stupid dog! /pulls out huge scary mask/ Booga-booga-wooga!

[verbal thistle]

Okay, was funny this guy isnt that smart

[weary idol]

he's an elitist

and thinks that duoing auric maelstroms are a flex

this is the kind of guy someone would make a strawman of

[strong gulch]

QC in general was fine, that specific instance of use was not.

Not the same thing.

[deft stump]

You flex when you slap happy H40 or something.

[strong gulch]

We are mostly agreeing but getting hung up on small things.

[patent wing]

u better show of your duo runs then lol

[prime elk]

just because there's a valid use case of it doesn't mean it still isn't an exploit though. it's clearly enough of an issue that t he devs decided to just nuke the entire thing, notwithstanding the valid use case.

[verbal thistle]

guys, its just rage bait. No need to continue

[tough vine]

I mean, I really don't care. I'm just saying. once you use a macro to do something that require timing with a normal controller you're muddying the waters. It's a fact for any game, no need for "500" levels in this game to know that. but you do you 🙂

[verbal thistle]

its just another elitist

who cares

[autumn lark]

People that quell cancel are bad at the game

[deft stump]

Ainz, just show that guy the bs you do on a daily basis or something. He sound like he has an ego bigger than his head.

[verbal thistle]

why should I?

[wraith sphinx]

Waste of time and energy

[verbal thistle]

exactly

[patent wing]

you guys are literally the clean gameplay maximalists lol

[wraith sphinx]

Be of good cheer and think of something nice instead

[autumn lark]

Ainz you should record your matches

[verbal thistle]

I might

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[vernal temple]

"I'm good at the game" isn't really a valid excuse to act like a bag of dicks towards others.

[teal fog]

💔

[prime elk]

no matter how good you are the game, there's always someone better anyway

[verbal thistle]

I learn something new every day

[strong gulch]

We aren't getting anywhere in our discussion. So I'm going to drop it.

[weary idol]

I really feel that with some of the true survivor ogryns that occasionally grace my lowly havoc 30 lobbies

[deft stump]

To be fair, all the really good players are the super chill sort and will help you if you asked.

[prime elk]

fair enough.

[weary idol]

Literally full health the entire mission it's terrifying

[wraith sphinx]

Good ogryn players in action are peak kinotide

[weak sierra]

Well I guess it's a good thing it's a co-op game then.

[vernal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-true-spongebob-truth-bomb-gif-15276593636156813970

[prime elk]

doesn't feel like that sometimes... but yes

[autumn lark]

Ainz is probably the top 0.1%

[tough vine]

Still I will continue to claim that I'm the best at dying in Darktide!

[deft stump]

Especially before the rework.

[deft stump]

Do you pen dump ds5 off Gloriana at first drop?

[patent wing]

yo guys since you were saying that duo psyker auric maels are no flex, show me your runs without using voc vets

[vernal temple]

Best I can show is deez nuts

[wary flax]

And they're carrying my ass and I'm ok with that, some day I will carry someone else's ass in return.

[teal fog]

no one's taking the bait lil bro

[patent wing]

u guys are insufferable ll

[verbal thistle]

you too bestie

[tough vine]

I understood as much as if you were talking to me in an alien language 🙂

[strong gulch]

Got one better. Here's me dying on sedition.

[teal fog]

says the guy bragging about true level

[verbal thistle]

True!

[deft stump]

Or you just do, since you got tired of doing event on higher diffs and is now trying to carry three randos.

[tough vine]

7/10 death not bad, Needs a bit more of game jank to get to that 10/10.

[wraith sphinx]

A good player gets "Thanks!" and "gg" in chat for their efforts
-Sun Tzu

[patent wing]

at least im not insulting like u guys

[deft stump]

Dueling sword mark 5 penetration dump just to maximise dodge distance. Bonus if IJ Zealot for ezy funni fly off map.

[strong gulch]

Not quite jank. Better?

[vernal temple]

To be fair, gravity is equally dangerous in any difficulty level

[strong gulch]

true lmao

[analog agate]

No. No macro is bannable

[deft stump]

I think your Helldivers vids are funnier though.

[tough vine]

No, I generally die... a lot 🙂 My best death though is when a trapper does a 90º after I dodge him at close range, still gets me and takes me to a pox Flamer AOE. just for me to die 😄

[strong gulch]

Also true. I can't use a jetpack.

[verbal thistle]

it was supposed to be, but there was no bans from what I've seen and heard

[autumn lark]

It was

[strong gulch]

FS should not have been so grey about the whole thing

[autumn lark]

Theres still m1 quickswap cancel on combat axe lights

[deft stump]

Oh, but funni deaths are funni. And why not fly off Gloriana before someone or something barrels/knocks you off?

[analog agate]

Evidence it was even supposed to be? Only evidence I have seen is FS allows all macros

[deft stump]

Hilarious yes.

[plush compass]

Anyone got any good recommended brain burst builds ?

[deft stump]

I think it was reportable since it was an exploit that kinda heavily ruins the game for others.

[tough vine]

In Helldivers the Jank is multiplied because of ragdoll 😄 Gotta love ragdoll 😄

[analog agate]

It isn’t grey. They allow macros. I have seen people spread that complex macros aren’t allowed (Cole) and yet no actual evidence of that. They spoke about it at the start of Darktide that all macros are allowed

[weary idol]

You agree not to do any of the following with respect to the Services, as determined by us, as applicable:
use them commercially, for a promotional purpose, or for the benefit of any third party or in any manner not permitted by this EULA;
use, or provide, any unauthorized third-party programs that intercept, emulate, or redirect any communication between the Services and us or that collect information about the Game;
use, or provide ancillary offerings to anyone, that are not offered within the Services by us (or the functionality of the App Store), such as hosting, “leveling” services, mirroring our servers, matchmaking, emulation, communication redirects, mods, hacks, cheats, bots (or any other automated control), trainers and automation programs that interact with the Services in any way, tunneling, third party program add-ons, and any interference with online or network play;
access or use them on more than one device at a time;

[prime elk]

doesn't exist, sorry.

[weary idol]

from the Darktide EULA

[analog agate]

And yet

So Ainz is technically right I guess

[prime elk]

why do you think she got fired?

||just memeing||

[analog agate]

They don’t penalize them even in EULA. But that just is a way to allow for them.

[deft stump]

If they did get temp ban, it was more for ruining multiple other players enjoyment of the game.

[analog agate]

Also, that eula says mods too. Dogshit lol

[verbal thistle]

What part do you need help with?

Just the skill tree, or the weapons and curios as well?

[plush compass]

all of it really, just a build from scratch, best synergies etc if there is one to hand

[long wharf]

FartShack has officially said they don't care about macro usage at all

[verbal thistle]

Are you able to use voicechat? I saw that you are a new player

[strong gulch]

There's a BB build in the pins under inferno.

[verbal thistle]

so I can show a few things as well

[long wharf]

and mods don't bother them as long as it doesn't impact other players nor allow access to paid cosmetics

[deft stump]

If you mod, the mod should NOT be visible to others or affect others.

That one exploit absolutely affected everyone.

[analog agate]

I just don’t like spreading misinformation is all.

[plush compass]

i can later but not atm as im waiting for my son to fall asleep so im being quiet 🙂

[strong gulch]

Ainz is very good at care taking.

[weary idol]

I cannot stress enough how not fun this is to play

but this is brain burst maxxing

[verbal thistle]

Okay, when you are able to (and still want to) just @ me and I can show you a few things

but I can post that build for you to work towards

[plush compass]

how come?

[strong gulch]

End game builds and leveling builds are very different btw.

[weary idol]

Brain Burst is arguably the weakest blitz ability in the entire game

[plush compass]

ill shoot you a message in 30 - 60 mins if thats ok?

[verbal thistle]

Sounds good to me

[weary idol]

The only "claim to fame" it has is that its Kinetic Flayer upgrade allows it to be used automatically

[plush compass]

yes please

[weary idol]

So it's taken on a lot of staff builds that have no reason to use any of the 3 blitzes

Since it's the only one that does something automatically

[verbal thistle]

What level are you?

[strong gulch]

If you find it fun, that's what's important. Gun Psyker Enjoyer doesn't like staves. So differences in taste are very much a thing.

[plush compass]

4, only had 2 games last night but i want to make sure im going down the right path and gaining a decent understanding of things as to not waste time

[verbal thistle]

Okay, noted

[plush compass]

fair enough

[prime elk]

accurate lol

[strong gulch]

BB is pretty meh, but if you like to play it, play it.

[weary idol]

Okay me not liking staves is not related to the whole "Brain Burst is a really bad blitz" thing

[prime elk]

building for BB is just suffering

[verbal thistle]

@plush compass There is something I will add, leveling on psyker feels terrible, and there is a build that helps with it. But it does not use Brain Burst

[deft stump]

Just note if you bring a gunker into a game with a gunlugger, you will run out of ammo.

Or start a war on ammo pickups.

[plush compass]

the homeing projectile one?

[verbal thistle]

yes

Assail

[weary idol]

How am I running out of ammo on a gun that I'm barely using

Is the ogryn stealing ammo from my pockets when I'm not looking?

[plush compass]

Yea i read this is the case

[deft stump]

Depends on how you play. Meleekers don't care as much. The full on pewpew ones... heh.

[strong gulch]

It was a comment on taste or preference. Someone can enjoy garbage.

Embrace being a raccoon.

[verbal thistle]

Brain Burst if you are still set on it

[strong gulch]

Like squeezy cheese or chips/ crisps; garbage but I like them.

[wraith sphinx]

Gunker and meleeker are by and large the same thing

[plush compass]

Why is BB so awful to level with

[deft stump]

The difference is the playstyle. More melee or more shooty.

[verbal thistle]

you dont get the damage and speed buffs until later in the skill tree

around level 25

[weary idol]

It's slow and does very bad damage relative to its speed

Also making it usable takes lot of talent points

[wraith sphinx]

Incredibly slow casting until you get a combat ability

[plush compass]

ok that makes sense

[plucky flax]

Hmm got flamed by a guy for not taking care of shooters. When I had most shooters killed anyway. I thik it's cos I wasn't playing bubble so I was easy target to be flamed. 😦

[deft stump]

Bubble knight has no bubble? Sus.

[wraith sphinx]

You still have to preserve ammo to shoot, no? Melee is labeled primary weapon for a reason

[plucky flax]

Was playing surge.

[plush compass]

end game wise, BB with bubble is a viable build and is a respected build ?

[wraith sphinx]

Ye I'd say so

[verbal thistle]

I will say, no matter what people say. Every weapon and every talent is Viable

[weary idol]

It's really common to see on staff psykers

[verbal thistle]

play what YOU like to use

its a video game

have fun man

"meta" "optimized" does not change what fun is

[plush compass]

Yea fun is my main priority and the build seems fun but having it viable is a bonus for me

but like you said if everything has a place then thats perfect

[weary idol]

I think BB+Bubble is the most common psyker set up

[deft stump]

Yeah, but some gunkers play as if they have shocktroop. Not kidding.

[weary idol]

The world would be better if we did

Clearly gun psyker playstyle needs more buffs

[deft stump]

Oh.

[wraith sphinx]

Heheheh

[weary idol]

Make it a part of Scriers Gaze that you generate peril to shoot but it costs no ammo to do so

[broken carbon]

no

[strong gulch]

BB is slow and single target. You commonly get to 3/4th a charge then something dies so your time is wasted. Later, a lot of things take more than 1 BB. It makes you engage with the leveling gear more. Psyker is very dependent on their whole tree and maxed gear more than other classes. Staves have some of the widest scaling and some are even garbage without high investment. Assail on the other hand can handle anything below a mauler and doesn't make you dependent on leveling gear.

[weary idol]

What do you mean no haven't you seen the data

[wraith sphinx]

Please no more changes to scriers gaze

[weary idol]

Nobody is playing Scriers Gaze gun psyker build so it has to be weak

[deft stump]

Well, more ammo for others, I guess. Not like it matters for my vet.

[weary idol]

buff it eleventy billion more times

[broken carbon]

true, it’s totally not because 40 other psyekr builds are also OP as fuck

[plucky flax]

Exise vault map too big so surge feels better there for specials and shooters killing.

[wraith sphinx]

They'll all keep getting buffed too eventually 🙂

[verbal thistle]

This is what max level Brain Burst looks like

I love it

*one sec

[deft stump]

Ah. Dislike it as well.

[verbal thistle]

loading

@plush compass

@plush compass

This is what max level Brain Burst looks like

[wraith sphinx]

As long as there is at least one smitebot/assailbot left playing that also has a reddit account psyker will continue to be in this op yet unpopular limbo

[verbal thistle]

Don't mind the Invincible audio in the background

[strong gulch]

I can't stress this enough, builds here mainly focus on efficiency and damage maxing.

If you find x thing fun and it is generally shit talked, just keep playing that fun thing.

[broken carbon]

i wonder how brain burst would feel if there was a node that gave you one near instant brain burst after a melee kill

[autumn lark]

Are you sure?

[deft stump]

I'm just tired of ppl screaming at others for ammo when everyone decided ammo hungry builds for all is a good idea. I don't care.

[broken carbon]

gives u an alternate to assail with gunker

[weary idol]

It's so much worse when it's zealots hogging all the ammo

Brother you are a melee class

Where do your bullets keep going?

[broken carbon]

mods mute him for 3 days

[verbal thistle]

NAUR!

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-mark-omni-man-hugo-hugo-dance-gif-16156516806200771435

[tough vine]

Flamethrower is hungry 😄

[broken carbon]

it shouldn’t be

[deft stump]

Try a plasma vet, a recon gunker and a BOOMlugger.

[wraith sphinx]

You just reminded me, when I was still new to gunker I once got called a jew for picking up ammo lmao

[broken carbon]

oh 40k

please change

[wraith sphinx]

I was just fucking around with a silly vraks ag on heresy ;_;

[deft stump]

And then you have me, the only one with survivalist and trying to ignore a wall of text arguing who should get the ammo.

[plush compass]

looks so fun

[deft stump]

It's not havoc, so they were all shooty happy.

[wraith sphinx]

Thank fuck I've experienced nothing of the sorts since

Thankfully 98% of my games have been chill or just hilarious inoffensive meltdowns

[prime elk]

always amuses me when a SAP zealot just sprays all game

[deft stump]

To be fair, other than the bickering over ammo, it still went fine.

Till they started to fight over the fouth use of the ammo crate.

[wraith sphinx]

What difficulty did that occur on karien?

I usually play damnation and aurics and encounter nothing of the sort

[deft stump]

Just auric damn. It's the only diff with ppl here.

[wraith sphinx]

Wew

[deft stump]

Is why they aren't bad, just 3 ammo vaccum builds.

[wraith sphinx]

At least asail gunker can manage with 3 ammo vacuums 😌

[ornate hamlet]

I bet you are not fun at parties...

[deft stump]

I'm a survivalist 'nadier.

I basically pick up tins if nobody needs them. I just ignored all ammo that game. The fourth use of crate was my share.

[real crow]

So I put off levelling psyker for ages

and now i'm doing it

and i feel like they removed the one staff that I kinda liked from VT2

which was like an autofire little bolts or right click to charge big bolts staff?

with voidstrike now being closest

so now none of the staffs feel very enjoyable to use?

[prime elk]

they're all going to feel bad until you hit 30 anyway

[weary idol]

yes the bolt staff

[prime elk]

just use assail until you reach 30

[real crow]

that scans

and I liked that one because the primary fire kinda felt like it was actually the purpose of the staff

with the secondary being just as valid, but more niche for heavier ones

compared to the ones we have now that feel, to me, more like the main purpose is always the right click and you can also do shitty other things without using ammo

[wraith sphinx]

Seconded, use assail until you hit 30, it will ease the leveling pain

[real crow]

I just want my machine gun staff back ;-;

[wary flax]

They should make a staff that fires shards similar to assail but without the auto-aim.

The machine gun staff.

[real crow]

It's been a while, but I feel like they removed some functionality from the other staffs?

like didn't you used to be able to hold left click to charge the ball?

and then your right click 'also' did a big AoE or whatever

but instead they split that into two entire staffs

(this was in VT2)

[tough vine]

I think it's one of the main issue of Meta / min-maxing. utility generally doesn't get enough recognition, so if the devs are centered on it due to players. Utility gets changed for something that does damage. I might be grossly wrong though.

[zinc phoenix]

It’s called recon las

Play right side with recon las and a big sword, boom you are a bolt wizard

[prime elk]

fireworks wizard

[long wharf]

lead bullet wizard

"I cast Glock 45"

[radiant frigate]

i cast volley of lead

[queen fog]

pull a page from Ogryn and use Magicians Brick

The most ancient of spells

[zinc phoenix]

So I tried out the bubble knight build @plucky flax and it is solid. I think anticipation may actually have been helping because it did feel a lot easier to dodge stuff 😂

I was playing pretty bad because I was chatting with friends but i liked it

[plucky flax]

It feels easier to dodge melee too.

Just cos fgs is so slow

[torn kernel]

more people are taking the red pill

anticipation is poggers fr

[tough vine]

anticipation on gunker/meleeker build is a must have

[jovial juniper]

Nah

1 extra dodge is aight

But not a must have

[tough vine]

it's not just one extra dodge, there is a lingering effect that comes with it that is also very good

[jovial juniper]

From 0.2 to 0.3

💀

[compact coyote]

so what's probably the best build for psyker?

[wooden sand]

Smite

[jovial juniper]

"For what?"

[wraith sphinx]

so I only today found out there's a setting that makes peril overload sound not deafen you 💀 💀 💀

[jovial juniper]

That's the important question

[compact coyote]

auric/havoc i guess?

[jovial juniper]

Ok but for what

Hordes?

Bosses?

[wraith sphinx]

what do you want to do

[jovial juniper]

Big enemies?

Safety?

[wraith sphinx]

Allrounder?

[wooden sand]

I think he wants a everthing build

[jovial juniper]

Oh
Inferno BB

Can't go wrong with Inferno

[compact coyote]

little hard to say, guess something that can ensure i can do a decent amount of damage while also managing not to get knocked down repeatedly.

[wraith sphinx]

Gun psyker is very strong but has a high skill floor

I can post my gun psyker builds if you want

[wooden sand]

Have skill gain

Dodge

[compact coyote]

does it involve smite and scrier's sight?

[wraith sphinx]

One does

the other is assail and scrier's

[compact coyote]

maybe even the useage of a force sword?

[wraith sphinx]

optional

[wraith sphinx]

You can use the combat blade instead actually

[wooden sand]

Give this man a melee pysker build

[wraith sphinx]

I use it on my smite gunker build

[wooden sand]

To train dodges

[jovial juniper]

Inferno BB

[wraith sphinx]

Alright ratman

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9eba29fe-cd4c-4efb-b6bf-7c245aa8ee05/my-gun-psyker-wsmite-revised?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[compact coyote]

there anything to allow brain burst to charge any faster in case there's snipers, or will i have to hope there's an ogryn with a pocket full of rocks?

[wraith sphinx]

take kinetic resonance

and er empowered psionics

if you manage to combine the effects of both you can dish out brainbursts super fast for a limited time

[compact coyote]

right, got both of those on 1 of my builds with shriek, never seems to charge fast enough.

[wraith sphinx]

kinetic resonance and empowered psionics?

[compact coyote]

yeah

[wraith sphinx]

hm

how do you use brainburst, and do you know you no longer need line of sight to the target once you start charging it up

[compact coyote]

i mean i could hold right click, but then my running speed's slower, and my perils are ever climbing faster than if i just hold left click and brain burst any random guy

[wraith sphinx]

I never rmb brainburst personally

[compact coyote]

i try it sometimes, just it never feels like it's doing anything for me, rather against.

[strange wyvern]

only time I do it is to preburst for when stuff like flamers/trappers/bombers round a corner and I know where they'd be

[hidden moss]

When it comes to Voidburst staff gameplay - are you mainly fully charging circles and putting them under the back part of the horde/elites, spreading dots and the occasional LMB spam in case of spicy bursters?

[wraith sphinx]

now I wanna put together a bb gunker build
it's gonna be so bad though

[celest valve]

you only have to see the sniper for long enough to start charging, and can be behind cover for the rest of it

[compact coyote]

well anyways, so any fun builds i could take into auric and havoc?

[strange wyvern]

mindflayer will carry trust

[wooden sand]

None

[compact coyote]

mind flayer?

[celest valve]

you can also just wait for them to fire once

[wooden sand]

No fun allowed in using the best build

[celest valve]

....and maybe dodge while charging I forgot if you can.

[strange wyvern]

kinetic flayer*

[compact coyote]

i know i can dodge while charging

and i thought that was what you meant

thinkin' to get into havoc just for those legendary outfits for each class.

especially ogryn and psyker, though mainly psyker

kinda like the judge dredd ass helmet he gets, even if i might consider not using it.

got my krieg gas mask after all, despite krieg probably not even really using psykers.

[wraith sphinx]

also unrelated but I just heard a scab gunner ingame call out a nearby poxburster, very neat

[marble crater]

Secret loyalist scab?

[compact coyote]

so what skills should i focus on for efficiency anyways?

anything that requires perils to gain toughness?

[marble crater]

I just joined the conversation, did you check the pins yet?

Warp Expenditure is just a worse Quietude, if you mean that talent for gaining toughness

[compact coyote]

so don't take expendature, but everything else is better?

[marble crater]

If we are talking about the toughness talents at the top then yeah, everything is a lot better

[wraith sphinx]

decided to take kinetic flayer instead of prescience, this is gonna be so bad 🙈

I mean I hope it won't but last time I tried bb gunkering it was a very bad experience

[marble crater]

Kinetic Flayer my beloved

[wraith sphinx]

I will try my monstrosity out on mortis first

[strange wyvern]

run shotgun, have terrible horde clear and ammo economy

[compact coyote]

wish i could screen shot the whole tree to show it.

[wraith sphinx]

I took dclaw and laspistol for the authentic level 1 psyker experience

[karmic temple]

As someone who runs blaze force greatsword plus double barrel anything is possible

[wraith sphinx]

it is

but will it be fun

[compact coyote]

picked quietude, battle med, smite and perks, toughness damage reduction, mind in motion, lightning speed, warp splitting, kinetic presence, anticipation, scrier's gaze and perks (with reality anchor), warp rider, and empowered psionics with perks (bio-lodestone, cause i can't count on gettin' to the elites before anyone else.

[karmic temple]

Well blade force sword for groups and carapace and shotgun for monstrosities as well as smite and yes it will be fun and goofy

[compact coyote]

talkin' to me?

[karmic temple]

No

The one who asked if it’s fun

[strange wyvern]

at least DB will consistantly clear light/medium trash in one shot

[karmic temple]

Also true

[compact coyote]

actually tried double barrel with psyker my self, by the way. think i prefer the full auto-guns for psyker though. maybe the revolvers and bolt guns too.

[strange wyvern]

Combat shotty taking 2 shots to clear trash 🔥

[karmic temple]

Yea but as someone who uses both I love the satisfaction factor of double barrel

[compact coyote]

i get that. think it's most fun on a zealout with the charge ability though.

just charge in, and give 'em both barrels right in the face.

[karmic temple]

Not necessarily run a movement speed scrier psyker and it can get very dumb

[wary flax]

Man, what are these teammates.

Hey, a boss spawned, time to separate so a psyker has to fight it all by himself, that's a good idea.

Bruh.

[karmic temple]

Yea I that happens a lot

Low rank? If so teammates dunno what sticking together means

[compact coyote]

eh, i've been gettin' good at slaughtering everything that comes close to me anyways using a basic force sword.

[karmic temple]

Scary monstrosity coming every person for themselves

[compact coyote]

doesn't even have to be a force sword, could be an excessively long knife.

speaking of knives, is there any real reason to use the combat knife?

[wraith sphinx]

I did wimp out and take ep on my bb gunker tho
bb is so atrociously slow esp without it

[compact coyote]

it doesn't seem the most efficient at killing the enemy as the catachan knife

[wary flax]

Speed. You get a big speed boost while sprinting and charging a heavy attack.

[compact coyote]

ah, ok

there any psyker knives?

[karmic temple]

It’s great for crowd surfing

[wary flax]

Also with the right blessings you can easily kill crushers with it.

[karmic temple]

Most things are too slow to hit you as long as you don’t get to close with the speed

[compact coyote]

lemme guess, make it do more damage to carapace, right?

[strange wyvern]

my build may be stupid but being able to block tank a daemonhost for 2 minutes was worth it

[compact coyote]

speakin' of armor, which is carapace and which is flak, it's hard for me to tell.

[karmic temple]

Why tank the demo host if it’s not there anymore am I right

[wary flax]

Yeah, I was blocking a chaos spawn jsut fine, but eventually I fucked up a grab dodge.

[compact coyote]

i kinda have a feeling crushers wear carapace if anything.

[wary flax]

Go into practice arena and shoot at enemies, it will show you.

[placid saffron]

Anyone up for damnation run?

[strange wyvern]

carapace
mauler head
crusher

flak
everything else

[compact coyote]

ok, so special scabs like crusher, mauler, and rager are carapace, while ever other scab like bombers, sniper, and trapper are flak?

[wary flax]

Crushers wear full carapace, maulers have carapace helmets and flak body armor, armored ragers have flak helmets and carapace chests, other ragers are Maniac (which is also most specialists).

Bosses and ogryns without armor are Unyielding.

If any trash mob has armor - it's flak.

[compact coyote]

ogryns without armor, ey?

[wary flax]

Poxwalkers and dogs are infested.

[compact coyote]

so the plague ogryn then?

[placid saffron]

Join strike party 3 for damnation run

[compact coyote]

woulda' taken plague ogryn for infested.

[wary flax]

All bosses are unyielding, I'm pretty sure.

[compact coyote]

cause i know reapers and bulwarks wear chain mail, and i think the bulwark's shield is carapace.

[wary flax]

Infested is poxwalkers and dogs.

[compact coyote]

ah

[wary flax]

Bulwarks and reapers do have some armor, but the unarmored bits are considered unyielding.

[compact coyote]

so what exactly is unyielding anyways?

[wary flax]

Armor type.

[compact coyote]

well how's it work?

[radiant frigate]

think Big Stuff™ (that isn't armored)

exposed reaper/bulwark bits

boss monsters

[karmic temple]

i think if he is asking if unyielding has specific modifiers like less damage or something i think

like how some bullets don't penetrate some armor

[radiant frigate]

some things do less damage to unyielding

some do more

like with almost all armor types

[karmic temple]

ye i know i think he was askin if anyone know the stat spread or where to find

i never looked into because if it died thats good enough

[wraith sphinx]

man kinetic flayer sucks

procced only once throughout the entire mission

[radiant frigate]

untrue and not factual

it good

[wraith sphinx]

do elaborate please

also are you aware of my context

[radiant frigate]

what is your context

headsplosion gun psyker?

[wraith sphinx]

I'm running a cursed bb gunker build

yes

[radiant frigate]

then there is zero chance you only got one proc

unless the mission lasted 10s

or there was only chaff

[wraith sphinx]

must have missed it then

[compact coyote]

so which is better for shriek, creeping flames, or warp rupture?

cause i decided to take a look at my brain burst build in the psykanium have a flamer staff equipped to apply soul blaze, soul blazed every frozen enemy, and i keep hearing death sounds.

[wraith sphinx]

[compact coyote]

also, if i do brain burst, shriek, and let's say kinetic presence all together, how good will that be?

[plucky flax]

Yes

[wraith sphinx]

I hereby withdraw my previous statement about kinetic flayer being bad

I guess I just got unlucky

[compact coyote]

i'm also taking warp siphon for this.

[strong gulch]

Always creeping flames. Warp rupture is a never pick unless you want to meme. When people say shriek, it's assumed that you also have creeping flames.

Kinetic presence doesn't add any meaningful BPs (breakpoints); pick if you are working the the penance for it.

[compact coyote]

thinking i might also try brain blast with scrier's gaze and kinetic presence as well. bring along the fire staff even.

add in disrupt destiny if that's a decent one

[gusty warren]

I wonder what are the stacks of soulblaze break points for some enemies

I think it takes like 6 stacks to kill poxwalker, and wonder are those “+4 stack of soul blaze on surrounding enemies on kill” are actually impactful

[modest perch]

the description makes it seem much better than it actually is

[strong gulch]

It's useful.

#psyker-class message

[strange wyvern]

I mean the audio is pretty easy to miss tbh

[gusty warren]

Ah so helpful if you want to go down left keystone

I like this class

Every single nodes feel impactful and game changing

[marble crater]

So many new psykers here today

[plucky flax]

Thank you I feel very welcome.

[wraith sphinx]

😄

[marble crater]

You should try the bubble knight build by UnsanctionedPsyker

[plucky flax]

I think that's too advanced for my low skill.

I prefer easy build similar to ogryn.

[signal gulch]

yelly vet

as a bonus you even help your team if they know what coherency is

[tough vine]

That's a big IF

[patent mango]

was desperado blessing always 20%? lmao

[signal gulch]

not my problem if they dont want free tougness and dmg lol

actually, yeah it is, but so it goes

[marble crater]

Coherency is a chain

[tough vine]

it actually is XD

[signal gulch]

randoms are a chain made of soup

assail/infernus/FGS/vent yell/empowered is pretty ez

burn up all the trash mobs, throw yondu arrows at shooters, and boop monstrosities on the snoot

simple as

also you dont take any ammo or grenades from your team

[tough vine]

Assail FGS Bubble 😄 Nice and easy. feel threatened ? bubble is there with you. It's far and it's shooting at your bubble, send some blue looking stones at the guy, it's getting close get the BIG SWORD AND SMASH 😄

[signal gulch]

bubble is equally valid to vent and much less selfish

i just like all my classes to yell i guess

[tough vine]

No, don't you dare enter my bubble. It's mine!

[marble crater]

Bubble can't save your team from a dog through walls

[signal gulch]

i might be a child at heart but the idea of yelling at someone so loud they catch on fire is hilarious and im gonna do it

[gusty warren]

Why is there a wall between me and my team in the first place

[signal gulch]

if this was possible in real life i would find out how and master it

[gusty warren]

I would be terrified if I am that far away

[tough vine]

It's a language barrier 🙂

[marble crater]

Why far? They could just be in the next room 2m away

[gusty warren]

For a psyker 2M is very far

I glue my ass to the ogre 90% of the time

[tough vine]

Either you're in the Ogryn, or you're not trying

[gusty warren]

[marble crater]

It's really not

[signal gulch]

if youre in the ogryn and you perils he can just scoop you right back up like a toddler that went uh oh

[marble crater]

Things happen, as long as you can get to your team and they can get to you things will be fine

[gusty warren]

Ogryn should have the ability to swallow me whole to keep me safe

[narrow herald]

Piggieback psyker turret

[signal gulch]

too bad they dont have dozens of talents that reward the team remaining together or people would do that huh

[tough vine]

Make an ogryn ability where he can put a psyker on top of his shoulders!

[gusty warren]

Ok this one is way more normal

[signal gulch]

only if we can get him to do the fastball special with zealot

https://tenor.com/view/gimli-tossme-lotr-gimlitossme-what-gif-7286259

[mental kraken]

can there be an ogryn ability to pick up and throw a teammate somewhere?

[marble crater]

Staying in coherency is better of course, but it's by no means 100% required all of the time, eventually you will get separated, so better be able to not die when you are alone for a bit. People are expected to handle a certain amount of enemies by themselves

[tough vine]

So two ogryn playing volleyball with the Zealot ? approved!

[signal gulch]

i would pay actual money for that yeah

replace your ability to take grenades with the ability to toss teammates instead

slam dunking randoms into the elevator like Shaq

[gusty warren]

People will use it to throw teammate off cliff

[cloud night]

Just grab a psyker on the verge of peril overload and chuck his ass at the crusher conga line for a damage bonus

[signal gulch]

that would be a good penance

[signal gulch]

sometimes, hear me out, some teammates need to go off clif

[compact coyote]

Just did a damnation mission like it's sedition.

[tough vine]

Throw your teammate at the Deamonhost!

[compact coyote]

Good mix i think, scrier's gaze (with precognition), brain blast, kinetic presence, and disrupt destiny with perfectionism steamrolls.

[strange wyvern]

Me seeing this with no context

[vernal temple]

I've finally found it! The stupid 1st auspex on the Ascension Riser 31 map

[tough vine]

No context needed 😉

[signal gulch]

low key brilliant, throw one of them and run, grab them up in a little while

[compact coyote]

Nothing escapes the psychokinetic lawn mower! Fucking SPEED! Your mind is grass AND I MUST FEED!

[tough vine]

Bonus point if his the hoarding type of player, with a medipack while everybody is at low health 🙂

[signal gulch]

like i said, sometimes teammate needs to go off cliff

does the astra militarum votekick soldiers no they have a commissar simple as

https://tenor.com/view/figure-it-out-glaring-watching-you-staring-mad-gif-15425518

[gusty warren]

Do you lose everything you carries on death btw?

Because I remember times I died carrying packs

[thorn cedar]

Everything should drop, yes.

If you get ledged it leaves all your stuff at the closest solid point of contact from where you got ledged. Usually.

[rich spindle]

I’m in a habit of doing this and in havoc took so much damage from trash mobs before I popped that I straight up casualtied

[dull scroll]

2014s two people while team is rushing towards a ritual on 40

in two runs at the exactly same place

very nice fatshark

very nice

[wraith sphinx]

well, there's certainly a nice little workable cadence to brainbursting with scrier's gaze, warp unbound is pretty much a requirement to take full advantage of kinetic resonance though

I can make this work

[nocturne dust]

Really wish there was a pause when someone DCed and you had the option of choosing to immediately continue or waiting until the person reconnected

I'd want Fatshark to fix their servers in the first place, but they seem incapable of that

[dull scroll]

that's..actually brilliant, if they could do it

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it should be fairly simple. It's just a question of how much work it would be in their engine, since they might not have any sort of freeze function at all (which would be stupid, but it's Fatshark )

[terse rivet]

Did they do something to purgatus in the last 2 years that made it as strong as it is today or has it always been like that

[analog agate]

Blaze away blessing

[jovial juniper]

It was strong