psyker-class

[marble crater]

Biggest mistake

[weary idol]

honestly chainsword is actually easily worse than dclaw sword

entirely because dclaw obliterates ragers

[patent mango]

chain weps in this game are all in a weird spot

[drifting steeple]

i like spending money

[weary idol]

Chainaxe has good damage, but is held back by an arbitrary cleave limit and strange mechanics

[drifting steeple]

but i was talking about ordo dockets

i spent all mine on pants

[deft stump]

It's like the third time it went free.

[upper sun]

news for me

[drifting steeple]

thanks

weirdly enough i was thinking about metro yesterday

[deft stump]

To be fair, am poor so I grab all free Steam stuff or whatever friends hand me.

[ornate hamlet]

that's a pretty skin

[upper sun]

did i tell you about freestuff bot?

[deft stump]

Nope, but I have my sources.

[upper sun]

its a dicord bot that pings you if theres anything free on epic or steam or gog

https://freestuffbot.xyz/

i use it you can just make an empty server with it and you

[plucky flax]

Epic ewew

[upper sun]

its free

[deft stump]

I'm poor but I won't go that far.

[upper sun]

if you dont want me to use it buy it for me

🚬 you people

[plucky flax]

Maybe one day alan wake 2 will be released on steam

[deft stump]

I never said that. I just said I won't go near that thing.

[marble crater]

PC gamer moment

[deft stump]

I rather just open my smut writing acct and write smut for pay again than that.

Wat, teen me did it. I mean I wrote as gifts, to annoy and to scare off some guys.

It paid for small games and such.

[proper osprey]

Granny be crazy

[deft stump]

WDYM crazy. Do you want a box to the face?

[proper osprey]

Yas

[blissful solar]

you'd rather start a job again than spend 2 minutes inviting a discord bot?

[deft stump]

No, use EPIG games.

[blissful solar]

I see........yes.. logical way of thinking...

[cosmic sigil]

Achlys vs rashad what the fucking hell

[upbeat kestrel]

yes achlys has better carapce

[marble crater]

Epic Games is literally Satan and kicked every PC gamer's dog

[upbeat kestrel]

?

[deft stump]

I don't want multiple launchers either, so there.

[upbeat kestrel]

what did they do now

[cosmic sigil]

marginally better carapace at the cost of way worse unyielding

[rigid sky]

Could you explain?

[blissful solar]

nothing besides be another tiny program on people's computer

[marble crater]

No idea, I'm using hyperbole to make fun of the hate they receive

[upbeat kestrel]

well going fro 5 hits to 3 changes wthings

[upbeat kestrel]

check second attack on achlys

[rigid sky]

I'm only using the chain axe 4 and only on zealot

[cosmic sigil]

same dmg profile

[upbeat kestrel]

i thought it was different

[cosmic sigil]

considering the heavies are a tad slower as well, I am not sure it outpaces the rashad against carapace

[upbeat kestrel]

the more you know

[cosmic sigil]

(3rd has the same dmg profile)

[plucky flax]

It sucks so bad compared to steam. You wouldn't get it

[marble crater]

Oh the humanity

People act like it destroyed the entire world

[plucky flax]

It did

[blissful solar]

it is definitely not as good as steam and you gotta wonder how they haven't even tried to get it closer to steam in terms of features

[drifting steeple]

I LOVE CAZE

CAZE

CAZ

CAXE

i cant spell today

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drag-come-here-comehere-gif-21771860

@deft stump dragging me to her basement after I call her granny for the last time

[marble crater]

As a granny she is not strong enough to drag anyone or anything, you are safe

[proper osprey]

Ok real

[marble crater]

Why do you think she always threatens people with kraks?

[proper osprey]

Well she did say there’s darktide cosmetics down there and they’re good

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-dog-dog-angry-bull-terrier-terrier-gif-2795674709454464198

[proper osprey]

[deft stump]

That's what you think.

[proper osprey]

[analog agate]

I dislike that I can’t gift someone a game on Epic.

[proper osprey]

She’s actually strong?

Yeah I’ve always stayed away from epic

[blissful solar]

epic is definitely trash but at least it's a valid launcher and gives free games

[torn kernel]

You'd need hella strong arms to throw shit the way she does

[deft stump]

Well, when you keep having to carry a 10KG dog because she's a gremlin trying to fight with other dogs at times...

[proper osprey]

The chihuahua

[deft stump]

And that's with trying to keep a struggling mass from launching herself from your arms.

No, Finnish Spitz.

[torn kernel]

She's an innocent baby i will not tolerate this slander

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-dog-dog-angry-bull-terrier-terrier-gif-2795674709454464198

moment

[torn kernel]

The dog, not Karien

[blissful solar]

definitely not karien

[young cliff]

dogos are quite strong for their size so the larger ones are even more scary to control without good training

[deft stump]

She's just easily triggered. Was R'd when young by male dogs.

[young cliff]

if you train dogo good, they will remain calm as long as you do...or if you own a dogo like mine you dont have to control it too much because its a good boyo who is scared of new stuff and instead must encourage to do crimes

[torn kernel]

[young cliff]

cursed

[marble crater]

"emoji_1" most creative emote name

[deft stump]

She is calm in most cases. Only wants to play with people even if she is loud which can scare kids.

[proper osprey]

[weary idol]

Chain Axe deals zero damage beyond the third target it hits regardless of how much cleave you have

[rigid sky]

Oh no it does the silly ogryn weapon thing? :/

Is that both push attacks and heavies?

And is that also regardless of crits?

[marble crater]

Caxe has a worse target cap than evis 15? today I learned

[weary idol]

anything that has cleave, and crits don't do anything different

[rigid sky]

Oh well. Still love it anyway and at least that keeps it nice and unpopular so I can feel special with it lmao

[rich spindle]

At least it isn’t the chain sword

[rigid sky]

Chainsword is probably outright stronger tbh, but I just really dig the meaty anti-elite stuff with it

It's like a duelling sword if duelling swords were fair

[weary idol]

chainsword is quite a bit worse than chainaxe tbh

Chainsword is in competition for worst melee weapon in the game

Chainaxe just has bad horde clear

[radiant frigate]

chainswords do be sucking

[radiant frigate]

giving dclaw a run for its money

[proper osprey]

How dare you

I will not tolerate dcalw slander

Especially on psyker

Or vet

Or zealot

The chainsword has the fastest trash clear in the game

Mk13 light spam wrath and shred

[patent mango]

if you dont count force gs that is

[marble crater]

Illisi is pretty good too

[patent mango]

fatshark make illisi h2 a proper overhead

🔥

[marble crater]

That loop would look silly

[patent mango]

lol

[rich spindle]

Illisi is my fav scriers melee

I don’t think anything has better horde clear

[prime elk]

Rashad

FGS

[patent mango]

brutal momentum moment

[rigid sky]

Heavy swords maybe?

at the cost of literally everything else

[patent mango]

heavy sword attack speed feels so bad on psykuh

[upper sun]

fatshark do the opposite of that

give illisi a 10% attack speed increase idc DO NOT AT ME

[lone ravine]

fatshark increase illisi attack speed by 10% for the push attack only

[upper sun]

ill take it

[misty ferry]

I wonder why I have seen people in the past suggesting to give duelling sword the parry ability

[marble crater]

@upper sun I'm okay with this
@clad

[buoyant maple]

ok add 2 ragers and a mauler

[young cliff]

Lean more into it's horde clear power, challenge the mixed horde in glorious suicide melee combat with special spam like a real man

[young cliff]

Ranger and mauler Def not trash, they trash you

[proper osprey]

Then you weep

[upper sun]

No

[young cliff]

Yea

[weary idol]

honestly just the one rager would hard stop it too

[young cliff]

Why chain weapons can't be cool, they are supposed to be cool

[upper sun]

my god spawns are giga fucked

no bosses in auric

i hear the sound but they never spawn

[marble crater]

Paranoia introducing gameplay

[analog agate]

Happened to me twice 2 weeks ago. One was a bon and the other time an ogryn. Spawn noise but boss never came

[nocturne dust]

Is this the continuation of 'oops, no weakened'?

[analog agate]

Idk. I don’t recall if it happened the last time they bugged monster modifier

[blissful solar]

i used to be terrified of the prospect of 3 bosses as a psyker (trauma and shriek). but now as a zealot with taxe i only want 3 bosses

[analog agate]

Get your taxe supremacy outta here

[cosmic sigil]

I wish we could play a normal map and then lights out and mobs spawning

[upper sun]

entire game no spawns

[marble crater]

As in surprise lights out or only parts of the map?

[cosmic sigil]

Surprise lights out

With music interrupted, wolfer on the comms launching protocol alpha something something

[patent mango]

h2 becomes an UPPERCUT

🔥

[upper sun]

u become BLOCKED

[patent mango]

you will look up to headshot and you will like it!!!!!

[marble crater]

I love it, let's do it

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/bvndit-dead-chat-dead-group-chat-lol-gif-26075659

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-rain-world-wide-groceries-miros-gif-27507609

[marble crater]

[young cliff]

Question: what blessings you folks run on your knifes?

[nocturne dust]

uncanny + bleed

[jovial juniper]

No bleed

Uncanny+ Precognition/Riposte

[nocturne dust]

Bleed is good

Especially if you need the knife on horde

[jovial juniper]

Or I could just pa spam

Since I'm a psyker

[nocturne dust]

Hot take but PA spam isn't that great

[jovial juniper]

Or you know
Assail or purgatus or blast

[nocturne dust]

You assume I have any of those

EK exists

[jovial juniper]

Yes I assume you have those because it's common sense to pair your single target weapon with a horde clear weapon

[patent mango]

horde clear knoif seems kinda miserable

[jovial juniper]

😭

[young cliff]

I feel EK staff is more geared for illi Force sword, since it doesn't manage hordes that well

[nocturne dust]

But speed

[patent mango]

but i guess i dont like knoif in general actually

[young cliff]

You can be speed AND alive with a FS

[nocturne dust]

FS does not have speed

0/10

[patent mango]

knoif is like what +0.80 sprint?

forgo

fs mayb +0.20?

[nocturne dust]

Knife is the only weapon that feels fast on psyker

psyker just slow 😭

[patent mango]

but we 2nd fastest class

[nocturne dust]

And don't you start with your stupid buff nonsense that never lasts and you can't even take if you're left side

other than mettle

[patent mango]

lol lmao

[nocturne dust]

but mettle still doesn't last

so the issue remains

[buoyant maple]

It was actually about as good as illisi force sword vs dense horde

From what I tested

[analog agate]

I used knife with EK for quite a while. It is fun cause zoom zoom. And then you hit a horde and are screwed

[buoyant maple]

Both were ~18.5s vs 50 poxwalker

[patent mango]

with bleed?

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, knife is not bad at all against horde

[patent mango]

wow

[buoyant maple]

Granted

I think it shows more that illisi is overrated and meh

[patent mango]

lmfao

[patent mango]

i just wish illisi had any attack that wasnt a sweep

[young cliff]

Illis is not overrated, is weak

[nocturne dust]

I've been shouting from the rooftops for ages that Illisi sucks

[patent mango]

its wild it literally only has 1 attack type

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, people loved the Illisi before FGS

[buoyant maple]

Force great sword is ~15s on that same trial btw

So a little better but not “good”

[patent mango]

that sounds like no special though

[young cliff]

Why? Was Deimos not around to show them how it's done?

[upper sun]

illisi isnt even that good

[buoyant maple]

Yea u don’t have special all the time

[nocturne dust]

Wonder how much of that is movement speed

[analog agate]

People loved illisi when it had infinite dodges and was better

[patent mango]

i mean u only need half charge for horde

[prime elk]

It’s pretty easy to get one bar tbf

[nocturne dust]

It was. People recommended Illisi for horde clear regardless.

[young cliff]

Fgs Vs 100 horde enemies in 16s

[buoyant maple]

It’s not move speed, it’s just 50 poxwalkers stacked on top of each other

[nocturne dust]

What, like literally the same spot?

[buoyant maple]

Yea

[patent mango]

i use datatide for my tests

[buoyant maple]

Because in any other situation there’re too many other variables

[young cliff]

Buff illisi ObeseFish

[nocturne dust]

did you have wrath/warp splitting?

[buoyant maple]

I think I did pop SG + warp splitting

[nocturne dust]

Nuke the charge spam, Obesefish!

[buoyant maple]

But it wasn’t anything like, super special

Which does align with live performance

[young cliff]

Maybe give buff the power sword treatment?

[patent mango]

illisi fans stacking 30 buffs

[analog agate]

Yes. There is that meme gif that gets posted here from time to time

[young cliff]

I didn't see the funne, what is it about?

[buoyant maple]

Yea, 10 horde enemies

[patent mango]

theres a gif of an illisi 1 shotting a crusher

it has a lot of buffs lmao

[buoyant maple]

Granted I’m pretty sure most FGS players tend to save their warp slash for mixed horde instead of pure horde

[young cliff]

That needs to be A LOT of buffs

[patent mango]

i just save depending on enemies around lol

no reason to keep em saved too long

[nocturne dust]

I spam the slash at 0 bars so enemies last longer so that I can spam the slash more

[young cliff]

Density of elites on a horde or stagger at range

[buoyant maple]

With warp slash it ended up being like, 9s ish for FGS?

[prime elk]

Prob

[buoyant maple]

Which puts it at top tier but not best

[patent mango]

idek whats top tier mayb csword?

[buoyant maple]

Absolute highest was Rashad

7.5s

[patent mango]

funny

[buoyant maple]

Power sword VI is like 8.7?

[young cliff]

But that was outside havoc, right?

[patent mango]

bromentum just entirely changing the usage of the wep

[nocturne dust]

Lol, sadly Rashad's angles aren't great for that in actual combat

[buoyant maple]

BM 1 tap vs poxwalker doesn’t change going into havoc

[buoyant maple]

Wat

Horde?

It’s pretty good

[jovial juniper]

Another Rashad moment 🗣️

[nocturne dust]

If the horde is spread a lil, the diagonals aren't as nice as, say, a complete horizontal is what I'm saying

[buoyant maple]

I think with new ogryn tree, Karsolas might pull ahead a bit more

Just keep in mind that what I tested was pure density

[young cliff]

Karsolas iirc was like 26 sec Vs 100 orange horde enemies

[nocturne dust]

Is this Vet Rashad?

[buoyant maple]

Vs smaller isolated groups, knife pulls ahead a lot more

[nocturne dust]

or all classes

[strong gulch]

Isn't chainsword psyker's fastest horde clear? I mean people were saying that pre FGS. IDK about now.

[buoyant maple]

It would be same on psyker because same atk speed & same 1 tap breakpoint

Psyker technically has it a little better cuz 10% atk speed is way easier to reach than vet’s

[nocturne dust]

tru

[prime elk]

Psyker Rashad just struggles against carapace

[buoyant maple]

The slowest I checked was duelling sword IV

36~38s

[prime elk]

But maybe it’s ok with SG idr

[buoyant maple]

Shortened to 24.2 with scrier’s gaze

[nocturne dust]

wat about smite

[buoyant maple]

Smite on its own without ult

?

Idk u can check that urself

[nocturne dust]

smite without EP and scrier's, yeah

[buoyant maple]

I would not be “surprised”

If it ends up being like 0.5s faster than illisi

[jovial juniper]

According to Exploits EP smite takes 2 seconds or so to kill a trash

[marble crater]

Vet and zealot guide now?

[prime elk]

Paths also taking over the Atheneum and Ogrynomicon

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/assimilate-star-trek-picard-gif-14160230

[marble crater]

When will Path sleep?

[buoyant maple]

Yea

I actually finished 3 sections on vet guide yesterday

[patent mango]

zealot guide gonna be like 2 pages

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185515538475134998/1361164285170159816/Desktop_2025.04.13_-_22.10.31.01.mp4?ex=67fe6b46&is=67fd19c6&hm=8cbfe4283153c87dac085bcb7925d03078c8230b25645a3c51cd0a80f21e6f75&

[patent mango]

nice

[buoyant maple]

Vet guide be like
“Would u like to know about soulblaze’s damage scaling”

[nocturne dust]

Zealot guide: Take this exact tree, run at things and hit them

[patent mango]

its so bleak

[buoyant maple]

AFAIK

Vodka plans to release it earlier

With talent and build stuff ready

Then add weapons over time

[jovial juniper]

W + M1

[patent mango]

i feel like weps would be 90% of the guide

[jovial juniper]

Space

[buoyant maple]

Zealot guide would actually be quite long (more stuff to cover than psyker)

Because of grievous wounds

[patent mango]

zamn

[buoyant maple]

But when I showed vodka how big a weapon section actually looks like

He decided to do that later on

[jovial juniper]

Stagger breakpoints

[nocturne dust]

To be fair, you could extend the psyker guide by a lot if you tried to do BPs.

[marble crater]

Well I'm looking forward to the guides being finished, so I can just copy some builds for when I feel like playing vet or zealot

[buoyant maple]

Void strike and a few melee weapons, that’s about the extent of it

[nocturne dust]

I'm including figuring out what buffs are needed in what combinations for which enemies

[left hare]

Bros teaching vets about soul blaze dmg

[nocturne dust]

For all weapons

[marble crater]

Do we need a voidstrike section in the guide? I say we don't

[jovial juniper]

Vet latent psyker confirmed

[left hare]

Sanctioned psyker

We been doing voice of command this whole time

Its just biomancy

[buoyant maple]

if ur ok with potentially separate a weapon into multiple sections, yea

steam sections have 8k character limit

[nocturne dust]

Which is really good design, btw

[left hare]

I also realized that voc is an ability in rogue trader

[marble crater]

Like, has anyone actually seen a voidstrike psyker in the past week? I haven't

[buoyant maple]

so this is what I ended up going with
I tell u exactly how much dmg u have & are missing to reach the 1-shot breakpoint

[left hare]

Its cos inferno exists tbh

[patent mango]

nope

[buoyant maple]

and I only do these breakpoint tables for ones that are 1-tap breakpoint weapons

[patent mango]

voidstrike is gone forever

[jovial juniper]

You just been Officer'd

[left hare]

Only go vs in auric damn or low havoc for fun now

[jovial juniper]

Get back in the fight 🗣️

[patent mango]

in rogue trader idek what shout does

some minor buff?

[left hare]

Gives toughness

[patent mango]

i dont rember

[left hare]

Which is bonus health

Its actually the same

[patent mango]

oh lol

[left hare]

But single target

But with skills u can make buffs u give more valuable

[patent mango]

other people dont hear the shout only 1

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278540580976328790/1359595536558068023/Desktop_2025.04.09_-_14.26.48.01.mp4?ex=67fea503&is=67fd5383&hm=8f055c8b5718e3bb9fe3822d07f0f20f57e41314a169fd82aa7509a3a0328945&

this is 1 weapon

[left hare]

Aoe toughness is actually broken in context of rogue trader

[marble crater]

Will the zealot guide include how to rush ahead of the team and get trapped?

[patent mango]

cassia just gave everyone like 3000 billion stats

and it was so easy lmao

[left hare]

Its why heinrix can make the whole team immortal

He has aoe sanctic biomancy bs

[buoyant maple]

idk haven't checked what vodka and ainz put in there

[patent mango]

heinrix in our palythrough was just a force sword delivery system

cause he had one of the literal 2 force swords in the entire system (back then at least)

[left hare]

With recent patch he sets himself on fire and delivers force swords too

[marble crater]

You will bankrupt steam with all the server space you will be needing

[buoyant maple]

I currently have enough stuff in this 1 guide to do like 7

[left hare]

Path doing veteran AND zealot guide

Cooked

14 guides

Could make a silkpost reddit for this

[buoyant maple]

this is intro for my guide

yes 20 sections of intro

16 times the detail

it all just works

[marble crater]

[patent mango]

scary..

[marble crater]

Bro will have to write a guide about his guides

[buoyant maple]

nah steam guide navigation is ez

and I label everything very clearly

should be very intuitive to use

[marble crater]

I always forget what ADM means, and at this point I am afraid to ask, also Void Shield

[upper sun]

attack damage modifier

[nocturne dust]

alpha dad man

[buoyant maple]

armor damage modifier

[strong gulch]

The only thing I dislike about steam is my screen reader extension can't read half the text.

[nocturne dust]

[upper sun]

essentially damage on a weapon is say 500 but x.7 for maniac x.3 carapace

[upper sun]

blocked

[long wharf]

Apple Dumps per Minute

[buoyant maple]

as for void shield I don't have info to fill in yet
but basically it's a 7th armor type that has a unique per-hit-damage-gate system going on

[marble crater]

Thanks, I will try to remember this time

Are those the captain shields?

[strong gulch]

I do like having the base of things covered. Starting with word definitions since FS won't.

[buoyant maple]

there're a total of 8 armor types

unarmoured
infested
maniac
unyielding
flak
carapace
player
void shield

[marble crater]

Just write chain weapons are good against them or something, I don't know. And magdumping reconlas into them sounds funny

[buoyant maple]

for the purpose of guide, I use first 6 as normal armor types

void shield as separate cuz it's sorta unique

[upper sun]

ye they have a damage limit per hit but chain weapons do tick damage so thats why theyre good against them

[buoyant maple]

and there's no player-to-player direct damage so player ADM can be ignored

[buoyant maple]

yez

[brazen rampart]

Player is an armor type???

[upper sun]

yeah

[buoyant maple]

yea

[brazen rampart]

I guess that's how they apply dr effects?

[buoyant maple]

no

[marble crater]

There is when I barrel clad

[buoyant maple]

this is ADM calculation

[upper sun]

yes an attack damage modifier calculation

[long wharf]

it's called "barrels"

[buoyant maple]

after I finish these (6 unfinished sections), I can copy paste directly into zealot guide since most of the stuff is the same

[buoyant maple]

barrel flame and explosion damage have innate ADMs to player, undecided by the player who detonates them

[strong gulch]

Ye.

Anyone else miss barrles bleeding when you hit them?

[marble crater]

After 1,5 years I might actually learn the game

[long wharf]

yes, I was joking

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-superman-batman-v-superman-do-you-bleed-bleed-gif-19089630

[marble crater]

Someone needs to edit a barrel into Superman's place

[buoyant maple]

prob will finish blessing sections first

then intro

I can't rly play the game rn cuz am using my dad's 12yo+ monitor

and the latency is horrendous

so I can't record demo vids for guide either atm

[marble crater]

So that's why you made so much progress

[buoyant maple]

yea

[strong gulch]

I am not a barrel confirmed.

[marble crater]

Not yet

[buoyant maple]

bottlenecked by this monitor so hard I finished 3 sections in vet guide in 1 day

[marble crater]

Praise be the monitor

[buoyant maple]

DoT
avoiding damage
blessing - T

[marble crater]

Should have read the avoiding damage part, used BB on a sniper while in a horde and ate a mauler overhead, smh

Like I said yesterday, don't do that

Any reason the guide(s) are not pinned yet

[buoyant maple]

because they're not finished

vet guide is very far from completion, I'm not even at 50% mark

zealot guide full completion needs all their weapons' sections done and that is a lot of work

[marble crater]

Do they have to be finished to get pinned, or do you not want them pinned while unfinished to avoid dealing with people complaining about it?

[analog agate]

Oh. Even when completed that shit storm will come

[marble crater]

Well they can write their own, better, guides then

[buoyant maple]

unlike fatshark I don't plan on releasing unfinished products

not sure how vodka plans to release zealot guide

[upper sun]

damn

this is good

its so hard to find this stuff written out somewhere

so many very very competent players dont know about on hit stam regen

[zinc phoenix]

“Hello, yes, this is 🥔”

[buoyant maple]

wait 3~5 months for public release

[upper sun]

ping me ill upboat it

[buoyant maple]

gale is doing vet guide's penance sections

I gave ainz access but I think he's working on zealot guide atm

[marble crater]

Dodge refresh is only 0,85 seconds I thought it was longer

[buoyant maple]

I'm forcing gale to write in a very specific way in guide

[marble crater]

I dodge a lot, this is good to know

What way

[marble crater]

Loving it, I see

[buoyant maple]

before vs after

basically writing in a way that answers your questions before u ask them

very little if not any room for misinterpretation

[marble crater]

We will see about that once it goes live

[buoyant maple]

the idea is to keep it short and difficult to misinterpret

[strong gulch]

Well, at least the super common questions.

"Is the warp battery talent needed for the warp battery penance?"

[marble crater]

Yeah that is just smart, I wrote short guides for another game and my main reason for doing so was because I was getting annoyed by answering the same questions over and over again

Guides are a great way to be more lazy

[nocturne dust]

Me writing the Inferno guide for the same reason

[strong gulch]

HAHAHA.

I was just thinking of Deadvoid.

[nocturne dust]

I would write a guide for the other staves but it's too much work

[strong gulch]

Heck, even my comment getting pinned.

See pins

[marble crater]

We need the cliffhanger comment from you pinned as well

[strong gulch]

Organizing thoughts and data is too much.

[buoyant maple]

deadvoid's guide comes from good intention but has some missing parts

[verbal thistle]

\

sleep

[lone ravine]

hey man someone might steal your lunchbox you should wake up soon

[marble crater]

Wake up, someone needs help with HM twins

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Finishing hard

[buoyant maple]

maybe I will eventually expand vet guide to cover psyker as well

https://tenor.com/view/fatalis-toothless-toothless-dance-daniel-carlo-mazzolari-monster-hunter-world-gif-17254620072564385450

[marble crater]

You can't do that, we are not vets

[buoyant maple]

u survived 2 suicide missions consecutively, ur already a veteran in 40k context

[nocturne dust]

I also want to point out that it was, like, supposed to be way simpler

[buoyant maple]

but u had to add a bunch of words in the end

yea I get that

[strong gulch]

Anyone else having issues with "Copy Message Link" not actually copying the link??

I just updated, so that might have been a mistake.

[upper sun]

#psyker-class message

works 4 me

[strong gulch]

RUDE

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message

[strong gulch]

I want to do it too

[nocturne dust]

I wanted to write a short 'here is the meta' and I got 'well, might as well describe the abilities it's good with... well, then they'll ask me about the ones I didn't mention... well, then they'll ask me about talents...' etc.

[buoyant maple]

yea and even that still isn't enough if u go by stricter standards

like if u show that to kuli or jsat they might have an aneurysm

[nocturne dust]

My hardline for the guide is writing down numbers. If I do that, I've gone too far

[marble crater]

I want inferno breakpoints

[upper sun]

i want 🤔

ogryn breapoints

[earnest sand]

Fire good until crispy critters than fire no need

[upper sun]

come to think of it

anything not vet is fine by me

[buoyant maple]

I posted DoT scaling for soulblaze above

do u want me to send it again

[marble crater]

No, I was joking

I don't even use inferno

[rigid sky]

Isn't it like 20 minutes?

[nocturne dust]

(don't worry about the fact that I included some numbers in the guide about stacks anyway)

[buoyant maple]

nah I think "first deployment"

not as veteran as the actual veteran in the game obv

[marble crater]

As in surviving for 20min makes you a vet?

[rigid sky]

You've already outlived the average at that point or something

[marble crater]

Being a soldier in 40k sucks

[nocturne dust]

I get that 40k is supposed to be doom and gloom, but that's just an absurd casualty rate from a logistical standpoint

[earnest sand]

I think for a veteran it's just multiple battles and you lived. But also I think avg lifespan is 15hrs or something so..

[buoyant maple]

surviving your first deployment makes u a veteran in 40k
but DT veteran archetypes' voicelines suggest that they've survived far more deployments across multiple campaigns so they're veterans amongst veterans

[nocturne dust]

People don't grow on trees, despite what those guys with the gas masks might tell you

[earnest sand]

Gotta get food somehow.. mmmm corpse starch

[brazen rampart]

Well, that casualty rate happens when you fight space death robots/cracked out hungry bugs/cultists that can suplex a tank/technologically advanced bovines/your darkest nightmares and you are literally just some guy.

[rigid sky]

It's one of the examples of 40k being dumb lol

[brazen rampart]

(necrons, tyranids, chaos astartes, tau, and daemons, respectively)

[rigid sky]

Grimdank as fuck

[brazen rampart]

Also, yeah, people do quite literally grow on trees in 40k.

The one strength humanity has over other faction is that humanity reproduces under any circumstances.

[marble crater]

and from what I hear all of those are better than being captured by the Dark Eldar

[brazen rampart]

It's the only way to survive when your lifespan is measured in minutes.

[nocturne dust]

Which is 40k being stupid again given current birthrates

[brazen rampart]

Void, do you understand that not everywhere in 40k is like the Torrent?

[zinc phoenix]

Zoomers be like no

[brazen rampart]

There are paradise worlds out there that literally have no idea chaos even exists.

[zinc phoenix]

Marry and reproduce you little shits

[brazen rampart]

They just know the astra militarum has enemies to fight.

[nocturne dust]

Yes, I'm aware of paradise worlds.

Not that we ever get to see them

[brazen rampart]

So youre looking at billions, with a b, of people that just reproduce nonstop.

[proper osprey]

Damm he unblocked you? Crazy

[buoyant maple]

Warhammer 40k Brightide set in a paradise world within the sol system
where u play as the planetary governer and try to raise as many humans as possible

[brazen rampart]

Not even mentioning hive worlds like Tertium.

[buoyant maple]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[fringe garden]

Just like earth in the 21st century has no idea Chaos exists

[proper osprey]

[brazen rampart]

The Emperor's presence on Terra alone would evaporate any chaos that set foot in the Sol system.

[marble crater]

Hey now

[earnest sand]

I just wish our siblings didn't get sacrificed 😦

[nocturne dust]

Unironically, I would buy a game that is just vaguely set in 40k but without any of the 40k

[zinc phoenix]

“Press F to Fuck”

[brazen rampart]

Just throwing this out there, the ones that do get sacrificed are too powerful to be restrained by current means in lore.

[proper osprey]

Let the emperor die

[nocturne dust]

My most disliked part of 40k is the whole 40k part

[brazen rampart]

No psykhana collar would contain them.

[proper osprey]

Just go star child

[brazen rampart]

Their choices are either die and fuel the Emperor or be possessed and have their soul eaten by some powerful daemon.

[nocturne dust]

Have they tried not existing?

[earnest sand]

Isn't it something like 10k a day though?

[brazen rampart]

I think if I'm gonna die either way, I'll do it for the sake of big E.

[zinc phoenix]

Gettin your soul et seems lit

[brazen rampart]

Mhmm.

Just goes to show how far the Black Ships will go to procure their quota.

And the reproductive rate of humanity, as previously mentioned.

[zinc phoenix]

Honestly the lore is just stout

[brazen rampart]

One does not simply come up with 10k powerful psykers on a whim.

[nocturne dust]

For all the gothic architecture, we looking a little aztec with this one

[earnest sand]

"bring out your psykers"

[brazen rampart]

Listen man, you're feeding a dying god.

And lemme tell ya.

Big man is hungry.

[earnest sand]

So if they're to powerful to contain what stops them from just poofing brain bursting their harvesters? I've barely scratched the lore 😂

[buoyant maple]

sisters of silence completely shut off access to the warp in their vincinity

[brazen rampart]

The blanks that contain them.

[buoyant maple]

so these psykers literally cannot access their powers

[brazen rampart]

Go ahead, psyker, give yourself a migraine from hell by trying to use your powers within arms reach of a blank.

[earnest sand]

Ah ok that makes sense forgot about them

[nocturne dust]

Still a logistic nightmare. People are easy to find, but you have to transport and feed them (and yes, I'm aware of corpse starch). With such casualty rates, you have to do that transportation at absurd rates.

[earnest sand]

They really should do some stuff on sisters of silence they sound cool asf

[brazen rampart]

You would be surprised at the logistical capability of the administratum.

[nocturne dust]

They would but they have to be silent about them.

😉

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027335984964190312/1361396979808080064/PxSAhVT.gif

[brazen rampart]

But yeah, TLDR, sisters of silence are some bad bitches that go out hunting psykers for big E to munch on.

Quite a cool faction.

[nocturne dust]

and yet it's supposedly also a nightmarish byzantine bureaucracy with massive inefficiencies

[brazen rampart]

Makes me wonder, if you're a female blank, do you get a choice as to whether or not you become a sister of silence or one of those assassins they pump full of drugs?

And do male blanks get a choice?

[buoyant maple]

there're also psykers that outright get assassinated before they get too powerful

[brazen rampart]

^

[buoyant maple]

culexus pretty much exists for that

[brazen rampart]

If a blank cannot be issued to you in time, they just fucking kill you on the spot.

Better to die while you're still human, after all.

[earnest sand]

So the darktide psyker is just a wee babi

[buoyant maple]

darktide psyker is safe enough to be used

[nocturne dust]

Man, can you guys imagine getting possessed by a daemon? Good thing my Beloved would never let that happen to me.
Don't worry about Beloved saying to kill everyone or anything like that. I'll only kill the heretics, promise.

[proper osprey]

I’m gonna possess you

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-meme-steam-tg-bratishkin-gif-274347585508037432

I hope you’re ready

[nocturne dust]

Slavery is wrong.

[earnest sand]

Feels like sister of silence would be better off screwing up tyranids almost but idk

[proper osprey]

It’s cool and fun

In fact people love to work in the mines

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/squint-eyes-really-gif-13700560966715616459

[buoyant maple]

we actually already fight psykers in DT

all daemonhosts are psykers

[nocturne dust]

Si, that's why Minecraft is popular

[buoyant maple]

the ritualists are also psykers pretty sure

[brazen rampart]

Daemonhosts happen when you rip a collar off a psyker and expose them directly to warp energies.

[earnest sand]

I can fix her

[brazen rampart]

Corruption gets a lot easier without the collar in the way.

[buoyant maple]

very funny that the chaos psykers are much tankier than loyalist psykers

[nocturne dust]

Daemon flesh do dat

[buoyant maple]

no no

the ritualists have 2.5k health

lol

[nocturne dust]

Nurgle's blessing

[proper osprey]

What’s there armor type?

[buoyant maple]

unarmored

[proper osprey]

Unarmored?

[buoyant maple]

so quite tanky

[earnest sand]

They drank the nurgle milk got them big and strong

[proper osprey]

What da hell

God

[nocturne dust]

Idk, they don't seem big or strong

[proper osprey]

I hate them

[nocturne dust]

They feel like air and don't even react properly when you hit them 😭

[buoyant maple]

takes 3 power sword hits to kill one, that's extremely tanky in 40k standards

meanwhile loyalist psyker folds to 1 guy with a club in 3 hits

[earnest sand]

" what's this annoying mosquito poking me with"

[nocturne dust]

Well, I'm talking more of how they don't really bleed and just kinda pop out of existence when they 'die'

[proper osprey]

Coughing zealot vs hydrogen ritualist

[patent mango]

ritualist psykers doing their absolute best just standing there as the ogryn slaps them to death

[patent mango]

maybe they're just using kinetic deflection lmao

i mean they do use shields in ritual mission

those look stronger than ours (but need constant warp? also have multiple psykers powering em)

[nocturne dust]

You can't block while doing an objective

so they can't

[buoyant maple]

exactly

[proper osprey]

Truth nuke

[patent mango]

1984......

[mortal siren]

is the voidblast just better than the voidstrike?

[patent mango]

probably

[nocturne dust]

Mostly, yes

[mortal siren]

seems like it to me

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is the weakest staff (but still a very decent weapon)

[proper osprey]

I want a bolt staff

[nocturne dust]

I want a shrapnel storm staff

[proper osprey]

Blow trash everywhere?

[nocturne dust]

Melee support staff that summons a long-duration, wide AoE of bleeding + brittleness application

[proper osprey]

Like that one staff on unchained?

Uhhhh

Aoe pool of fire?

[nocturne dust]

Coruscation is not a support staff

[proper osprey]

I forgor the name

[proper osprey]

I mean

It supports your melee

A little

I’d like a shot gun staff

[brazen rampart]

When we get alternate ammo types for boltgun, maybe.

[verbal thistle]

burster

gone

[proper osprey]

What did you zap up there

[lone ravine]

they finally found the fly that was getting in their ear and killed it

[zinc phoenix]

I want a blizzard stick and the ability to make new spells like in morrowind

Also I want boots of blinding speed

[wispy bay]

Crymancer

[sturdy reef]

Give psyker a morrowind agility staff

[strong gulch]

Burster yeet

[strong harbor]

dump stat for inferno staff?

[verbal thistle]

warp res

[strong gulch]

WR

All force weapons dump WR with one exception.

VoidSTRIKE dumps blast radius.

[strong harbor]

gotcha

[verbal thistle]

like this?

[strong harbor]

all toughness curios or?

[verbal thistle]

HOLY MY INTERNET!!

[nocturne dust]

Need a bot for this, lol

[patent mango]

voidBLAST drops strike radius

[strong gulch]

Up to you. General rec for auric is 201 HP with x1 sniper resist. This lets you tank a sniper and multiple bursters.

How you get there is up to you.

If you never get sniped or you have a personal pref or playstyle that favors something else, do that.

[zinc phoenix]

I do two toughness and a stam when meleeker (with 3x minor tuff) and 2x tough 1x hp (with 3x minor tuff and hp) when playing a staffer

[patent mango]

stam is only really nice if ur using super low 2-3 stam builds

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-standing-cat-standing-roller-cat-silly-cat-funny-standing-gif-24695294

[strong harbor]

sounds like a plan

[nocturne dust]

me running knife with all staves

[patent mango]

idk how much stam knife is

probably low lol

[nocturne dust]

2

the base amount

[patent mango]

guhhh yeah

[nocturne dust]

knife is +0, same as DS

[zinc phoenix]

It’s rlly nice with melee builds in general imo b/c you are likely running fgs and are therefore slow

[strong gulch]

Some things to consider is if you do a lot of PA (push attacks) or pushing, extra stam is nice. A +3 stam curio (410 or higher) + KD means you can largely opt out of stam management or tank boss hits while blocking quite easily.

edit: I say 410 or higher because +3 400 stams are actually +2 in a live mission.

[patent mango]

i kinda feel like sprint effic worksk for that tho

[sturdy reef]

I always take a sram curio

[strong harbor]

best single target force sword mk?

[sturdy reef]

Stam

[patent mango]

but idk how people feel about sprint effic

[nocturne dust]

deimos

[zinc phoenix]

I like stam eff minor

But yeah that can work too

[strong harbor]

gonna try to lvl force sword and inferno staff

[zinc phoenix]

Mostly I think curios are just whatever

[patent mango]

curios suck lmao

get 1-2 sets and ur done

[nocturne dust]

hot take but sprint shouldn't cost stamina at all

[strong harbor]

out of the 2 inferno staff builds you sent @strong gulch which one is more user friendly?

ive only ever done meleker

dd and sg my crutch

[patent mango]

isnt inferno like always super easy to use

i kinda turn my brain off when using it

[strong gulch]

They are both good.

The 6 has easier access to the big upper stab; but over time in a group of armor, the 8 can out pace the 6.

They are not that different. Pick the one you like more or has a moves et that make more sense to you.

Edit: Sorry about that. I somehow read "great"; meaning FGS (force great sword). That was not what was asked.

[nocturne dust]

they did not mention big sword

[weary idol]

Obscurus is better if you're not built for melee, Deimos is better if you are

[strong gulch]

They are both easy builds.

The meta build (the one with warp charges) does more damage. It's the most optimized and technically the only inferno build in the post. If you don't know what to pick, pick the meta one.

The other with EP BB, is a BB build. Inferno happens to slot the easiest into that build.

[nocturne dust]

no?

Obscurus needs a melee build much more than Deimos

[strong gulch]

Oh you right. My brain inserted "great" in there.

[nocturne dust]

Deimos in the role of single target just works

[weary idol]

Obscurus only needs 3 stacks of slaughter (and uncanny stacked) to do its instant kill combo on crushers

Deimos takes far more to get the one shot, and is much slower if it doesn't

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but stagger

[weary idol]

death is permanent stagger

[nocturne dust]

sure, but you have to get those stacks first

[weary idol]

Obscurus applies the dead status effect easier

[nocturne dust]

if it's a sidearm, you aren't going to have slaughterer

[nocturne dust]

not really

I mean, it may kill the crusher quicker, but the issue is that the stagger is immediate (you can start Deimos' combo while out of crusher range), whereas the Obscurus is going to take a bit of time to stack on top of then needing a combo

Not super terrible if Obscurus is your main, as it will be stacked regardless, but if you're a staffker and you just pull it out to deal with a crusher, it's much less safe and not all that quick

[weary idol]

actually testing it psykhanium, warp charges is enough to get the 3 shot from 2 stacks of uncanny with unstable power

assumedly staff builds are gonna be on high peril

and it's only 1 extra light to outright kill them if you don't have uncanny active already

[nocturne dust]

That remains a bit of a gamble with how warp charges fluctuate on staff builds. I definitely want the safer and more reliable option.

and is that with warp battery?

[weary idol]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

oof, that's much worse

[weary idol]

god forbid you use the good upgrades for warp charges

[nocturne dust]

I do

Warp Battery is not one of them

I joke, but realistically speaking, Warp Battery isn't that great. It's alright, but you'd be picking it over other very useful nodes like KD or KF.

and even if you do have it, 6 stacks is rare in an ability-spam build.

At least, significantly more rare than 4 stacks is

[zinc phoenix]

Correctly 😤

6 stack is pointless imo

Well except for burgatus with fire pickup for warp charge

You will definitely be locking in6 regularly with that

[nocturne dust]

I only use warp battery with EK (solely because I take smite cuz it's the zap staff and I need the zap blitz. I take the zap club too)

no KF option, so I have the point

[analog agate]

I use it with VB

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but you drop KD 😤

[analog agate]

I do…

[nocturne dust]

Only fake psykers drop KD, smh my head

[analog agate]

I would drop it for KD though

I haven’t (in a long time) done meatgrinder on how helpful 6 vs 4 charges is with VB blasts

[wind spruce]

Chad psykers*

Imagine spending points on toughness/health, cringe

[nocturne dust]

Show me your talent tree right now

[wind spruce]

I have no talent to show you, soz

[nocturne dust]

fair

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/mav-mavtothefutre-gif-18220066

KD?

Where we're going we don't need kd

puts on metal sheet in front of eyes

[nocturne dust]

Sedition?

[jovial juniper]

Psykhanium

[wind spruce]

Just run a +3 stam curio and free up the point

[nocturne dust]

Well, no, I need more than just a +3 stam curio to cover blocking's stam cost

block expensive

[wind spruce]

Dodge more

[nocturne dust]

out of dodges all the time

[patent mango]

lock in

[nocturne dust]

It was particularly bad my most recent match because I forgot the +3 stam curio on knife

[zinc phoenix]

Knoife

[nocturne dust]

I am sped addict

https://tenor.com/view/fast-car-gif-22098603

[patent mango]

i think reject performance would increase by 30% if we had subway surfers playing on the side

[fathom adder]

Imagine how zoomers would be crushing Havoc f there was an AI voice narrating a dumb reddit story instead of music

[patent mango]

a hell nawww gimmie subway surf instead...

[brazen rampart]

Zoomers need an ai reddit story with subway surfers, millenials need something like linkin park or breaking benjamin going on full blast in the background.

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/b1ADJ.gif

[patent mango]

UNSTOPPABLE reject

[verbal thistle]

really shrimple as

[deft stump]

Naw, Touhou metal.

[brazen rampart]

See that's breaching a different category, you're not a normal millenial anymore, you're a touhou millenial.

Very different.

I'm also not a true zoomer because all my siblings are millenials and I grew up how they did.

So I need the eardrum shattering music instead of subway surfers.

[fathom adder]

Give me my ADHD sensory overload in the form of a melodic soundtrack, bass-heavy sound design, and an absurdly busy UI

[nocturne dust]

Oh lawd, wat has Fatshark done to me? I think I enjoy Scrier's EK.

[patent mango]

i do have an obs thingy setup for maximum slop

[nocturne dust]

The buff to Scrier's lets you literally never stop using EK with ER.

By the time you start imploding, you just start Scrier's again

[patent mango]

lemme open game to sc it

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

https://tenor.com/view/enemy-gif-25591736

[ornate knoll]

Does kinetic deflection not work when a plague ogryn hits you?

[patent mango]

i think some bleeds through yea

idk how it works exactly

[nocturne dust]

It does

Overheads break blocks

[weary idol]

plague ogryn smash and stomp are unblockable

[nocturne dust]

Yep

[weary idol]

you will always take damage if you are hit by them

[nocturne dust]

unless Ogryn shield

but psyker no get shield 😔

[weary idol]

or devils claw parry

[ornate knoll]

Okie dokie ty. Attempted to face tank and he put me in my place real quick

[patent mango]

zam

[nocturne dust]

I do have warp siphon

but no battery

[patent mango]

new scriers moment

[nocturne dust]

I also have cdr on my curios, but I took the crit aura

[patent mango]

seems funny

[nocturne dust]

the +10% would let you not explode even more If you pause at all after warp unbound, you're just completely safe from imploding

It's not as strong for EK as vent is, of course, but it feels really neat to play since Scrier's helps EK hit a lot of BPs and you can shift the perks around

I'm slowly accruing more unhinged builds 😭

[dull scroll]

wtf it's like vent

[nocturne dust]

Si

BM can also save you from exploding

really, any forced quell like that will

You can probably do it with any staff and Scrier's + warp siphon

but it is a strange combo, lol

[buoyant maple]

might have to give FGS + EK a go

[nocturne dust]

You would be lacking DD for FGS tho

[buoyant maple]

it's fine

[nocturne dust]

but it wouldn't affect the slice that much I guess

[buoyant maple]

I'll cope with shred + riposte + SG for 77.5% FGS crit chance

[nocturne dust]

That build also lacks lightning speed and warp splitting, but you could easily dump Perilous Combustion and an assail subnode from my build

In testing, I found PC did very little on its own

[thorn cedar]

i keep forgetting that scriers quells now

[buoyant maple]

because soulblaze's dmg sucks abysmally at low stacks

[thorn cedar]

i am not at all advantaging myself of that effect lmao

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but also that EK with Scrier's will just... kill things very quickly

[drowsy scaffold]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[buoyant maple]

DoT dmg-per-tick scaling based on stack amount

[nocturne dust]

I ran +carapace and +unyielding and pretty much everything died in 1-3 attacks (most of them 1)

[drowsy scaffold]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[thorn cedar]

nah

[buoyant maple]

electrocution DoT is very very very weird

[thorn cedar]

like it is doing damage over time, in a literal sense

[nocturne dust]

Does electrocution even do damage... or stack?

[buoyant maple]

and smite is not electrocution DoT

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[buoyant maple]

electrocution DoT is mostly from shock maul's special & blessings

smite is just rapidly applying low dmg with tick rate

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[nocturne dust]

Mode named Mortis:

[buoyant maple]

charged strike is also electrocution DoT

but they seem to be coded differently

so don't think abt it too much

if I don't care enough to figure it out, u prob won't need to either

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[buoyant maple]

smite does apply electrocution status

but electrocution status is not the same thing as electrocution DoT

all very weird

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894568981946576916.gif?size=48&name=FloppaShake&quality=lossless

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[thorn cedar]

its a super pedantic difference

really the answer is 'because the code says it isnt'

type of shit

where it just is the way that it is because of the way that it is

these psyker buffs are absurd

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[verbal thistle]

Assail, gaze, destiny

Got buffed

[prime elk]

you missed one of the dumbest buffs

BCOB

[analog agate]

What kind of acronym is that

[fathom adder]

Boccob

[drifting steeple]

what kind of acronym is that

[fathom adder]

https://dungeonsdragons.fandom.com/wiki/Boccob

His holy symbol looks a lot like the Psyker's class icon actually. Epic 40k-Greyhawk Crossover in the works? Deepest Lore being hinted at?

[analog agate]

I don’t see how that follows his previous comment

[fathom adder]

BCOB = Boccob, it's a Game Theorizing

||it's By Crack Of Bone||

[analog agate]

Yes thank you

[prime elk]

a good one, cuz that talent name is too fucking long

[analog agate]

I literally forgot that “By” is the starting word of the talent

[prime elk]

fair

[fathom adder]

By Rock Of Crack

[thorn cedar]

yea by crack of butt never made it out of workshop

[left hare]

infernus staff whats the blessings?

[fathom adder]

Blaze Away + Warp Nexus

[thorn cedar]

holding 25 stacks of DD now is just

hilariously trivial

purloin providence change makes me wish that crystalline will was instead you having full freedom of movement during overheat state but only locks you out of manual quelling

you'd always have some way to prevent the explode if you can kill

[oak mica]

hello gamers i just started playing darktide and i have decided psyker is peak

complete peak

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[oak mica]

i ❤️ popping heads

[wind spruce]

Least peak part of psyker tbh

But it's true, psyker is peak

[oak mica]

sorry popping heads is peak

i make the rules

[wind spruce]

Fk sorry didn't realise

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[wind spruce]

Applies to all attacks with the weapon

[plucky flax]

Double lightning fork on surge staff so based

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark plz I beg of thee, stop looking at usage statistics and actually try to play with BB 😭

[elder harbor]

Is this "Enemy who dies of soulblaze grants this" Or is this "Killing an enemy who happens to have soul blaze"?

Souldrinker?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Souldrinker is reliably 'enemy who dies from soulblaze' and sometimes 'enemy with soulblaze that dies'

Fatshark coding moment

(Souldrinker is crap btw)

[elder harbor]

but... purgie?

fire stick?

[nocturne dust]

Yes, it's bad on Inferno

[elder harbor]

sad ogryn

sad psyker

sad player

[nocturne dust]

The buff doesn't refresh and even if it did, it's only toughness and a small amount of crit

You literally get 5% crit for free above Kinetic Deflection

and you as psyker have better toughness gen nodes at the top of the tree (mettle, soulstealer, quietude)

Souldrinker is made worse by the fact it has a point tax to get to it.

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[nocturne dust]

Not at all.

Psychic Leeching is not a good node.

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[nocturne dust]

I mean, it can be alright toughness gen if you use assail, but... psyker has better toughness gen nodes. Heck, even Essence Harvest is better, and Essence Harvest is like 4th on the list.

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[nocturne dust]

That is indeed the psyker way

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[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/kucing-koceng-kucing-muter-koceng-muter-gif-5074027903225641883

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-cat-dance-cute-cat-dance-ai-cat-gif-15064057413633942575

[copper jay]

Mettle toughness regen still not fixed ?

[torn kernel]

chat is SG EK a bad idea

[glacial vapor]

EK really wants shriek for horde clear. But it's not unusable

SG cancels head pops now, right?

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

It's not as strong as shriek EK, but it's definitely a build you can play and it works

You will need something for horde clear that isn't EK tho

[torn kernel]

nothing an fgs can't handle

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/catjam-cat-disco-catjamming-gif-16989864924126703156

[strong gulch]

Mettle is still acting weird. IDK if it's "intended" or not.

Best to still take soulstealer + quietude + mettle.

If you constantly have bubble up, you may not need soulstealer.

But that can create other problems.

If you are trying to get your only toughness regen from quietude + mettle, you need faster attacks that crit. LMB spam, tiny charges, guns, and assail come to mind. Not that all of those are great to do all of the time.

Also the obvious dodging and getting hit less or not at all.

[cosmic sigil]

wdym weird

[strong gulch]

With purg/ inferno in mind, mettle used to fill toughness because it was changed to from "on hit" to "per attack". If there were several enemies, purg could still mostly fill a toughness bar post change. If there were like 2 enemies, it stopped working. Now, it's just once per attack even on a full horde. The change happened after the fix that stopped mettle stacks from crashing games. The behavior changed was not in the patch notes.

edit: Cleave is an issue. You can get more than one proc in a single purg charge, but it is still smol.

[strong gulch]

Looking at the forums. The issue is acknowledged. IDK if and when that will equate to change. It's at least a known issue.

But that was also months ago.

[summer prairie]

it doesn't only trigger once

https://streamable.com/szcced

it might trigger only once if you are cleaving through the same target

[strong gulch]

I did some with about 4 and others with a a horde's worth. Some grouped together some spread out. Maybe it was the cleave thing.

It does feel different now, but that doesn't mean it's so.

Just reviewed some of my footage and yeah I am seeing the same interaction in the above vid. I know cleave was apart of it before too.

Maybe I should go to bed. lmao. Dang brain is lagging.

[cosmic sigil]

potato chip in the head

[strong gulch]

I'm cooked.

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-chips-fat-lazy-gif-5269667

[late sphinx]

what is kin

remind me what kinetic presence is again

[shut marsh]

Kinetic Presence is a Psyker aura, I think it's the one that increases damage VS specialists and elites?

[late sphinx]

ah you're correct

thank

[marble crater]

Oh new community manager

[wind spruce]

It's the speed buff you get when sprinting.

[summer prairie]

Consignment yard is apparently now in the havoc pool? huh

[marble crater]

They did it to make clad play havoc

[glacial vapor]

Will your Havoc teammates still drop into that final area with the medicae but no cover or way to retreat? That's the question

The amount of games I've lost at that part is wild, as I see the team gunned down lmao

[marble crater]

Yeah I like the spot up the stairs a little more, at least until the boss shows up

[summer prairie]

Excise vault is available too

and Moebian 21 back

[marble crater]

[zinc phoenix]

Did the change to havoc derank drop yet?

[marble crater]

Hotfix is tomorrow