psyker-class

[plucky flax]

Nah he was just shield taunt ogryn.

But why not just let me play and see first

[deft stump]

Then why is he complaining about ammo?

[plucky flax]

Bro flamed from the start pre lobby

[deft stump]

If it were the vet, is one thing.

But any half decent vet in havoc will run survivalist anyway.

[plucky flax]

I should had just left that lobby.

If a guy wrote that much it's already cursed.

[deft stump]

It means they dook, everythingwise.

[plucky flax]

I switch to oggy and chill now.

Spam heavy and win so op. No one will flame me like I'm on psyker.

Can run any ability or blitz I want

[deft stump]

Too OP so...

[upper sun]

every class should have this 🙏

[dense wolf]

awe

[deft stump]

Other classes need buffs for it.

[upper sun]

reducing tax nodes is pretty much a buff

[dense wolf]

how it feels to play psyker

[deft stump]

But they aren't getting it so...

[upper sun]

u dont know that

[deft stump]

Vet needs a buff on everything that isn't shout. Also needs less tax nodes. Everything is taxed somehow. Zealot is Zealot, you know the 1.5x builds. Psyker just needs the ability to pick blitz and path.

[upper sun]

vet doesnt have many tax nodes u just go down then right

you just want all grenade perks to be close to eachother

[deft stump]

Assuming you only want kraks.

[upper sun]

yes

kraks only kraks

[deft stump]

I want that and more 'nade perks.

[upper sun]

but yeah i said all classes should be able to pick blitz like ogryn

[lone ravine]

finally we will see 1.75x builds on zealot once this happens

[idle plover]

how i feel playing psyker

[halcyon gust]

How it feels to play with a Gun psyker

https://tenor.com/view/graboid-49685-ammo-gun-tremors-gif-13752182

-# Gunker refusing to share the bullets as they waste a entire mag on a lone pox walker

[idle plover]

https://tenor.com/view/tremere-antitribu-tremere-vampire-wizard-kindred-vampire-gif-6044117499908323633

i am somewhat divided on staffs

[halcyon gust]

I just want more staff options

[idle plover]

flame staff is nice but everyone runs them

mk 3 feels pretty wonky

[lone ravine]

staff is nice because I can turn my brain off about ammo management

[idle plover]

shockstaff im putting my adhd on overdrive managing the peril with it

my illisi sword and double barrel shotty build feels just right

[halcyon gust]

Great when you have constant ammo hungry teammates

[rose moss]

hey guys, can anyone help me with legacy penances on psyker? please

[plucky flax]

Which one?

[rose moss]

ideally all of them, for the transcendent armor.

i got them all on zaelot, but want them on psyker as well

[plucky flax]

I can only help with mm

I think that's the only private penanace?

[rose moss]

the only one i did some progress in is pick and mix

yes

can we have a discord call so its easier?

[plucky flax]

No need for call we'll just do a heresy until we find a monster.

I'm watching football atm.

[rose moss]

allright

[plucky flax]

Then I'll kite it around and you bb it to death.

So I need your fs code.

[rose moss]

whats your ingame naame

[plucky flax]

Give me your fs code it's easier I'll inv

[rose moss]

9486180997

thats my code

did you send it?

let me read it

[upper sun]

"Okay so look, folks, Darktide. You know it, I know it. It’s a good game. Very good, they say it’s one of the best—I think it’s one of the best. Incredible chainsaws, big explosions, very biblical stuff happening, the Emperor—he’s a great guy by the way, a little quiet, doesn’t talk much, but tremendous power, everyone respects him."

[marble crater]

Stop it

[upper sun]

i support all forum shitposts

[marble crater]

I believe you make 90% of them

[upper sun]

🚬 i wish

i dont shitpost on the forum because the mods have an excel spreadsheet with everyones IP addresses

no point in making a sock puppet when they already know

[marble crater]

Shitpost from an internet cafe

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-point-thumbs-up-pov-gif-8068338067936271742

[upper sun]

2000s called

[marble crater]

They still exist

[upper sun]

nuh uh

[hearty wolf]

i remember when chatrooms were the thing

Runescape betrayals

All the drama

[deft stump]

They do.

[signal gulch]

Remember the us is the entire world

[hearty wolf]

If the US got wiped out, I don't think it would be a big deal

[prime elk]

redditor moment

[deft stump]

So just nuke the US when it comes to that, kay.

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-is-down-the-hall-gif-16217874748283718723

[signal gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/digiorno-pizza-pizza-slice-digiorno-pizza-gif-13964691

Notice that this device is all edge and no point just like @hearty wolf

[hearty wolf]

👏

Where did this guy even come from

[marble crater]

I want pizza now

[radiant frigate]

lol

[plucky flax]

With pineapple on it

[marble crater]

No, that's a war crime

[prime elk]

then i love war crimes

[glacial vapor]

Tried Empyric resolve on EK. I am converted

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/yuge-huge-donald-trump-gif-5521636960626661361

[signal gulch]

We are going to build a giant Throne, on Holy Terra, and we are going to make Chaos pay for that Throne

[wide pecan]

Does anyone have a build for the Penance where you gotta deal 50% of a monstrosities health in a Private Game?

[marble crater]

Pick the Resonance upgrade for BB, the shield with two walls and middle keystone

[wide pecan]

Alr thank you

[nocturne dust]

too coherent

[radiant frigate]

free armor trimming

[nocturne dust]

"Did I ever mention I love Darktide? Great game, fantastic game, one of the best games. You love Fatshark. Those are the devs, Fatshark, they call them. Huge shark. One of the biggest sharks. I hear they have sharp teeth. It's crazy, what they can do."

[nocturne dust]

Hi, it's me, your friend trapped in the US.
Help. Is big deal to me. Let me out. Let me out. Let me out.

[wooden sand]

Just go to a close country and you will still be alive

[deft stump]

Like Catnyada.

[wooden sand]

The hell is that

[blissful solar]

even meowxico

[deft stump]

I dunno, country north of US, I think?

[nocturne dust]

Bro talking like the nearest country isn't many days away on foot

[wooden sand]

Come to South American

[nocturne dust]

and yes, I only have feet for transport in beeg country. Is ballz

[blissful solar]

South America is even further

[wooden sand]

Plane

[nocturne dust]

Those seem to be falling out of the sky in America recently

[wooden sand]

Skill issue

[nocturne dust]

Although I think the latest crash was a helicopter

[deft stump]

Start walking or hope ppl are nice enough to give you a lift.

[blissful solar]

just take a train to a far north place

[nocturne dust]

not wizened up enough on train routes yet

[wooden sand]

Go to Hogwarts

Magic man

[nocturne dust]

Hogwarts sent me a letter just to reject me. I didn't even apply 😭

[analog agate]

What a chad move

[wooden sand]

That sounds fair

After all, you don't exist

[nocturne dust]

No, you don't exist. I'm the one dreaming, after all.

I'd like to wake up back in 2008 plz

[wooden sand]

Prove me then

Make this world become a common nightmare

[hearty wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-out-gif-18252480

[nocturne dust]

I can't prove you because you don't exist

[deft stump]

It's probs a common nightmare. Aren't we all dreamers anyway?

[nocturne dust]

Already is 😔 Just the dull and existential kind

[wooden sand]

But if I don't exist that means you can't interact with me

So I exist

[nocturne dust]

That isn't true, because I'm interacting with you and you don't exist

[wooden sand]

And what makes you think you don't exist?

[nocturne dust]

Nothing, because I think I exist.

[wooden sand]

I also think I exist

So I exist

You fool

[nocturne dust]

You're wrong, because you don't exist.

[wooden sand]

Nah you are wrong

[nocturne dust]

You saying you think is merely part of the dream.

[wooden sand]

Because I believe you don't exist

[nocturne dust]

Another lie told by the dream.

[wooden sand]

I believe you are just a non existencial wizard

[nocturne dust]

A beautiful lie, but I think therefore I am. I can't hear you think, so you could not be.

[wooden sand]

You can't hear me think because your powers have skill issue

Can't even read a mind of a rodent

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/tomorrow-yay-mpreg-monday-mpreg-monday-gif-12250474605319036376

[nocturne dust]

I can't hear you think because you don't think, because you don't exist.

[wooden sand]

"that is a lie because I very powerful when I am not dreaming"

[nocturne dust]

Well, now you're just wrong because I very weak

[wooden sand]

Same as you

[nocturne dust]

Well, no, I do hear me think.

So you're wrong.

[wooden sand]

Come on wizard, you are starting to bore me

Say something that actually makes me think I am part of a dream

[nocturne dust]

I can't, because you are part of the dream, so to you it is reality

[wooden sand]

Well you can

The dream is yours

Dumbass

[nocturne dust]

Anything I said would simply be explained away by the fabric of the dream simulating your mind

[wooden sand]

[nocturne dust]

I am not a lucid dreamer

[wooden sand]

Sp you have skill issue

Even on dreaming?

[nocturne dust]

Bro acting like I get god powers just because I sleep

[wooden sand]

Ye

[deft stump]

You do?

[nocturne dust]

No

[wooden sand]

Never dreamed?

[deft stump]

I get to fly and all that.

Be the main character for once.

[nocturne dust]

Mahn, these lucid dreamers

smh my head

[wooden sand]

Yesterday I dreamed about smoking warpstone and this made me become king of all dimensions

[deft stump]

Instead of an unwanted scapegoat that should just die but can't.

[nocturne dust]

The only dreams I get are nightmares... and like, not even good ones

Like I once dreamed I was in a car moving towards a beeg pit

but we weren't there yet

[deft stump]

Impending doom?

[nocturne dust]

and the thought was that the car was going to go into the pit, right?

but we weren't there yet

and we never got there

[nocturne dust]

Yes but without the sense of impending or doom

Is bad nightmare

[deft stump]

So boring.

[nocturne dust]

Another dream I had was a zombie apocalypse but all the zombies had flowers growing on top of their heads. Like, not body horror or anything, just some dirt mashed on top and a flower sticking out. They were also slow and harmless.

[deft stump]

My zombie dreams are more tyrant fantasies.

[nocturne dust]

And these are nightmares. Like, in the dreams I'm always scared.

[deft stump]

So like, escort simulator, except the escort is a Human lady who just seems to trust you.

[nocturne dust]

[marble crater]

[deft stump]

Wat? I mean escort like gameplay thing.

Keep her well, keep her safe.

[nocturne dust]

[deft stump]

Wat?

[nocturne dust]

Suspicious.

[deft stump]

I did say my dreams are horror or yuri or both.

An escape from life so I hate waking up tbh.

[nocturne dust]

I mean I have vivid fantasies, but those are never dreams.

I rarely dream, really.

[upper sun]

you just have to believe in urself

[deft stump]

All the time. I forget them quickly if I don't pen them down asap.

[nocturne dust]

I think my last dream was years ago.

[upper sun]

my best one was when i realized i was dreaming half way into an argument and turned the person i was arguing with into a pillow and beat the shit out of him

[nocturne dust]

No need to dream when I can imagine things while wide awake

[deft stump]

I can do both, so...........

[marble crater]

Least disturbing Hungarian

[deft stump]

Eh?

[marble crater]

What eh?

[blissful solar]

(a guy quoting a guy): "(response to that guy he quoted)"
(some other person): "(confused for some reason)"

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/hugging-my-pillow-mike-lindell-saturday-night-live-weekend-update-my-pillow-is-soft-gif-20228825

[deft stump]

Are Hungarians that disturbing?

[marble crater]

Clad is Hungarian, what he wrote was disturbing, it was a joke, it's not that deep

[deft stump]

Thing is, it's not disturbing for me so... Why confused.

[upper sun]

im not hungarian btw just staying there rn

[marble crater]

What are you then?

[glacial vapor]

I spawn in, shoot a gunner, soulfire jumps to a DH. I die.

Truly one of the starts to a mission ever

[deft stump]

Try starting and nearly bullrushing into a DH.

Because I heard a chaotic mess before I saw anything.

Thank god you can interrupt bullrush lul.

[broken carbon]

i have those too but they all are about ur mom

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/got-em-lmao-mind-blown-squad-gif-17265113

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-flex-flexing-weird-flex-but-ok-weird-flex-but-k-benjammins-gif-13633060690425634880

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/jennie-jennie-kim-blackpink-blackpink-jennie-dead-chat-gif-27280179

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/rainworld-rain-world-slugcat-saint-gif-135115565546685117

[fierce crest]

What melee are decent at high havoc that aren't the dual sword

Or knife

[nocturne dust]

FGS

[fierce crest]

Oh true, I keep forgetting about that cuz I haven't had an emperor reward give me one yet

[small whale]

deimos force sword is decent

[fierce crest]

So there's literally none in my inventory

[nocturne dust]

Deimos is just dueling sword lite

[small whale]

it has deflector so its like a sidegrade

[nocturne dust]

Only if deflector is a benefit, which it often is not.

[late sphinx]

gunner/flamer trickster cosplay

[marble crater]

Scorpion at home

[fierce crest]

Is illisi just outclassed by fgs now?

[marble crater]

No, illisi has better mobility

[deft stump]

Is still better defensively tbh considering staff mobility, heh.

[rigid sky]

Deimos also has the force push

I love that as a utility

Duelling Sword is a better killing weapon, but Deimos is a better defender/brawler imo.

[twilit beacon]

You want warp resistance under 60% for a warp greatsword on psyker right?

is this one worth buying and upgrading

[deft stump]

You can if you wanna get peril faster.

[twilit beacon]

until every stat but warp is maxxed out

[deft stump]

Yes, unless you want lower than 60% after upgrading.

Cos if the WR starts too high, the chance of it maxing it is also higher. XD

[twilit beacon]

it stayed at 48% warp resistance with all the other stats maxxed

[deft stump]

It's a luck thing after all so heh.

[raven mountain]

I think you Ideally want it a bit lower, but I'd have to check exact breakpoints.

Mine is 31% and I'm landing at 90 peril after two waves.

The goal for a sub-60 WR fgs is basically getting over 87% or so with two waves. (you want a couple of % to account for timing between waves and for differences in peril reduction between builds)

[raw coral]

lights out monstrosities turns this game in to a horror survival game

[nocturne dust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/366
You may require this, good friend

[prime elk]

mods are the first step to heresy

[nocturne dust]

We're psykers

Mods are just canonically how we are

[patent mango]

we need a mod to just explode the computer whenever we get perils'd

[prime elk]

explode the brain irl when we get peril'd

[analog island]

Are regular force sword attacks warp attacks?

[strong gulch]

no

[analog island]

ok

[strong gulch]

only special

[analog island]

but greatsword is?

[strong gulch]

only special on that too

[fierce crest]

if its blue

its true

unless its the shock maul

[left hare]

Do i want rending at 75% peril for inferno

[prime elk]

yes because the alternative honestly hurts inferno

[analog agate]

ER still worth it with bubble in havoc

[young cliff]

am i crazy or at some point someone posted a build that was bubble but with gun?

[shy pewter]

Almost got got

[young cliff]

only hp point that matters

[shy pewter]

Perfect curio choice ✨

[young cliff]

to this day im still not sure what are the good curio combos for psyker

[fierce crest]

I run 1 stam 2 toughness

[shy pewter]

havoc I run 3 toughness curios with a couple hp perks. everything else i run 1 hp 1 tough 1 stam

[fierce crest]

Havoc is actually making me want more curio perks

I actually want stamina regen, gunner res, bomber res, toughness, health, even toughness regen

[shy pewter]

Havoc is the first time since I started that I've legitimately run revive speed perks and it has saved a few runs

Is bomber res actually good now? For a while it was literally worthless

[buoyant maple]

not really

unless ur getting gassed by tox bomber really badly

[shy pewter]

The last time I tested it against actually bomber flames, 3x20% res shaved like 0.2 seconds off the time it would take the fire to down you from full, compared to no res

But that was a while ago

[fierce crest]

They're basically the only specials that damage me

Flamers very rarely as well I guess

They really need to combine the perks for resista other than gunners

Could put dogs muties and bursters in one perk and it wouldn't be as good as gunner res

[shy pewter]

For real

Flamer res used to only apply to the flamer's kicks. Dont know if that ever got fixed or not

[proper osprey]

They always spawn 3 of them mfs

Except the one truth moans 🗣️🗣️🟩

[fierce crest]

Combine bombers and flamers, then combine all other specials

[fathom adder]

Also the direct damage from the grenade itself

[autumn smelt]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2819797586

Causes Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance to launch whenever you get hit

[quartz flare]

hello

[spice plover]

where my fellow freaks

[young cliff]

I have the joy that I feel that I have a healthy collection of builds for psyker, for all staffs (except Void strike), many gunker versions, some brain burst ones... And smite...

That one doesn't spark joy ngl

[quartz flare]

I wish there was a blitz talent that makes smite actually do damage instead of CC

[nocturne dust]

I too have a healthy collection of builds

[young cliff]

You beat me by 7

[nocturne dust]

That's actually an old pic, I think I have a couple more now

I ran out of UI room tho 😭

[young cliff]

I want Smite to be a more healthy "horde control" blitz, the concept is neat, but the current implementation is boring

[young cliff]

The struggles of building, how you have so many? What concepts you have cooked there?

[quartz flare]

want smite to be a horde clear talent but don't know how to balance it since it has infinite stock.

[nocturne dust]

The majority are staves combined with specific abilities. Voidstrike for example gets split into Shriekstrike and Scrierstrike

There's also a few gunker builds, one for recon, one for vraks, one for laspistol

[quartz flare]

like want to see horde mobs electic-exploding everywhere

[deft stump]

There's the very sus bubblestrike as well, but it's worse than the other two. XD

[nocturne dust]

I mean... it doesn't have to have infinite stock.

[young cliff]

I have the struggles to make void strike builds, mind sharing some of your ideas? I have both gunkers with azail, brain burst, EP and even bubble

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

[young cliff]

I want it to be like a electric shotgun that you charge and blast a horde for damage depending on how much you charged, staggering only once and depending of the time you stagger to the ground enemies up to crushers

[quartz flare]

also wish there was a way for BB to only target elite/specials like a additoinal talent node it's too hard to pick em in a mixed horde.

[nocturne dust]

Those are two basic VS builds, the ballspam one being the more difficult to play but generally people enjoy playing it more because balls

[quartz flare]

that sounds cool

[deft stump]

WDYM, more difficult?

[dull scroll]

4 rituals triggering chained together on Magstrati, what is this 😩

[nocturne dust]

It's harder to play and requires more skill.

Shriek is easy, point and shriek. Watch things fall over.

The ballspam build demands accuracy on top of having low toughness regen

[deft stump]

But you can ballspam even with shriek. That's more emergency vent if you dook up.

[nocturne dust]

Shriek also helps cover Voidstrike's weakpoint, spreadout hordes, whereas Scrier's invests more into Voidstrike's strengths (and thus you have to know when to stop charging and just fire to stop wasting time overkilling in addition to still having a glaring weakness)

[young cliff]

What is the advantage of ball other than no ammo cost?

[nocturne dust]

Sure, which is why I specified the ballspam build

[deft stump]

SG is spicy trying to quell inbetween blasts.

[nocturne dust]

as compared to?

[quartz flare]

what do ya'll think of the charge time on BB? do you think is too slow or could be slower or just right?

[young cliff]

Bolter, I have experience using assail-bolter-vent

[nocturne dust]

BB is a pain and bad

[weary idol]

it is agonizingly slow, and it does bad damage

[deft stump]

It's clearly too slow. Needs a damage buff tbh.

[nocturne dust]

It is a last resort you never want to take out and only do so because something has gone wrong and you're on Inferno

[young cliff]

It's good if you know what you are doing, using the alternate fire to charge a BB and then click on your intended elite target is a good way to manage it, otherwise peeking that sniper and charging behind cover is also good

[deft stump]

Or nobody is shooting that bloody sniper.

[weary idol]

I think the best way to describe Brain Burst. Is it is literally only taken because of Kinetic Flayer

A node that means you don't have to use it

[nocturne dust]

Bistol is weaker. Voidstrike will let you one-shot crushers if you can manage buffs/crit.

[weary idol]

Yeah, but here's the thing. Assail can one shot every special and elite (except mutants) too

[nocturne dust]

But, y'know, Bistol is also faster.

[weary idol]

And at worst 2 shots them which takes about the same time as BB

[young cliff]

Sick, that sounds like a warp sniper, Def missing that archetype

[nocturne dust]

It is essentially a railgun

or Psyker's plasma gun

[deft stump]

And better with the FGS.

[deft stump]

Needs cleave buff for that.

[nocturne dust]

It's as close to the plasma as we get, shush

[nocturne dust]

That's only because of puncture.

[young cliff]

Probably I just got used to it's jankiness on a BB build, so that might be the difference on experience, but definitely isn't something you use outside as an extra burst of damage for some staffs

[quartz flare]

maybe then EP BB should be default? or even faster?

[deft stump]

Still doesn't mean it doesn't need a little buff.

[nocturne dust]

EP BB being the base BB would be a start.

[deft stump]

But that alone makes it better. Also more mobility.

[nocturne dust]

It's still a very strong staff, wtf u mean

[young cliff]

What would the Ep BB do then?

[nocturne dust]

Like, yeah, it doesn't perform in the extremely-unbalanced Havoc mode because it can't infinitely cleave carapace spam

[deft stump]

Moar cleave, yes. Be the BOWLING staff.

[nocturne dust]

Bruh

it has a cleave of like 40 with warp splitting

It already bowls everything that isn't carapace

[deft stump]

Not 50. Need moar.

[nocturne dust]

Honestly, EP itself probably needs a rework

[quartz flare]

Kinetic Resonence maybe?

[nocturne dust]

It being a keystone that buffs only blitzes, having a node that grants charges only on elite kills... ugh, it's just not great

[deft stump]

Needs to be elites AND specials.

[quartz flare]

and have KR be replaced with a new node

[nocturne dust]

add in bosses too, cuz y the f not

[deft stump]

I mean, that should be baseline. If you honestly score the last hit with assail or bb, you deserve the charge.

If you are smiting the boss, I'm just glaring at you.

[young cliff]

Smite absolutely needs a rework

[upbeat kestrel]

yep

[quartz flare]

yeah

[upbeat kestrel]

but is still needs to be the crowd control ability imo

[young cliff]

I want to do UNLIMITED POOOOOWWAAA, Not this "Simon says: stop!"

[upbeat kestrel]

yesterday when playin 4stack smite our asses more times than i want to admit

[young cliff]

Yeah, I want it to be a CC shotgun of electricity

[quartz flare]

I think crowd clear would be better

crowd control < crowd clear imo

[upbeat kestrel]

how about crowd control and clear

[quartz flare]

how does that work tho

[young cliff]

Erase fodder enemies when charged enough and toss even crushers to their fat ninja asses when fully charged

[upbeat kestrel]

first stun and then damage amplyfies fast

[nocturne dust]

I would rework EP to be a more general (but still blitz-focused) keystone. But, assuming we only get to change the BB stuff, I would make EP grant your BB the ability to either spread like in Mortis (but, slightly more consistently via more range with a lower max cap and a targetting priority towards elites/specials) or to do crazy damage as a boss-deletion tool (and stacks only being consumed when the enemy would not have been 1-hit by base BB).

[upbeat kestrel]

i mean yes empowered psionics felt bad when i used it

[quartz flare]

I was thinking like erasing trash mobs so we can get space to dodge and deal with elites

[prime elk]

EP smite is pretty funny

[upbeat kestrel]

best feeling was with permastacking BB

[deft stump]

Or a multistrike against a boss. Say, 5 strikes to a single target or target+as many as it can kill in 5 strikes.

[calm sapphire]

Scrier ep smite

[nocturne dust]

I mean a very easy way to solve BB's current issues would be to just make its buffs drastically longer

[upbeat kestrel]

maybe 2 modes of smite? crowd control that stays the same and damage mode that has less targets and fills peril faster?

[nocturne dust]

It would still not be the best thing, but it would be way more functional for much more of the match

[quartz flare]

honestly stunning crushers with smite is very funny but at the same time I want to actually fight it after some time.

[nocturne dust]

5 is honestly probably a little too high for a BB that is buffed to EP levels at base

[upbeat kestrel]

3?

[nocturne dust]

but idk, I'm guessing and would have to see.

[upbeat kestrel]

would be acceptable

[deft stump]

Can be less. I was just stating a random number.

[young cliff]

Long range stagger with like 3 targets that works like live and a charged mode that is more shotgun like for horde control and stagger of elites

[nocturne dust]

3 sounds about right

[upbeat kestrel]

we can just talk about ideas

what will obese fish do is beyond our understanding

[quartz flare]

true

[nocturne dust]

I still have my shrapnel storm staff idea

[young cliff]

MorbidlyobeseShrimp works in mysterious ways

[deft stump]

After all, is just an idea. Numbers can be left to ppl who can balance better.

[young cliff]

That or the balance team of ObeseFish

[quartz flare]

all I'm saying is shooting lightning from your hands should be more stronger

[young cliff]

I mean, it currently is strong, it's just boring because it stops the interaction with the game

[deft stump]

True. I'm just good at fun OP stuff.

[upbeat kestrel]

brainburst could be called smite and no one would bat en eye

[young cliff]

I genuinely mix both sometimes

[upbeat kestrel]

[quartz flare]

more destructive then

[nocturne dust]

I mean

They could make BB more gorey

have the head actually explode

[young cliff]

This is why I want my "Electric shotgun" idea, would need some average charge time for max power, but the devastation would be much more suddenly and would still serve to control the mixed hordes while feeling not like the current electro therapy and more like UNLIMI-you get the idea

[quartz flare]

BTW why does electric staff's surge blessing only work on primary? it already has the double-lightning-on-crit effect

[young cliff]

Is there a build for that surge thing on the electro staff?

[quartz flare]

yeah I want to vaporize them with lightning not comically taze them forever

[quartz flare]

dunno

[nocturne dust]

surge works on projectiles
The only staff that has RMB projectiles is Voidstrike

[deft stump]

Or just use mortis shock pulse but actually damages, ep skips the charge up. Charge increases the shock duration and/or damage.

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is the only staff that fully benefits from surge (which is why it is the gamble staff)

[quartz flare]

oh ok thx for the explanation

[young cliff]

Been using too much ogryn on Mortis trials, have to give my Psyker a run in it

[deft stump]

No, I mean the voltaic thing.

The mortis smite does ??? Thing. Is like smite no longer needs to charge for max damage.

[nocturne dust]

Yes, LMB spam

Many hate it, and it was recently nerfed (not really deservedly, and in a way that kinda made staves feel worse to play imo)

[young cliff]

Ah, yeah. Come to think about it, feels that ObeseFish is seeking to introduce electrocution as a new status, so there is hope for that in some future in the normal mode (inhales more hopium)

[nocturne dust]

It's already on the shock maul

[deft stump]

I mostly just run colossus vet if possible.

75% TDR is funni.

[young cliff]

Ran a medic veteran, frag your team for heals AND some shields

Was crazy

[jovial juniper]

introduces real reasons to play lmb staff
It gets out of control
remove what made it out of control
everyone forgets you can build for lmb staff

[deft stump]

Triple shout and heals... also corruption removal due to colossus.

Funni.

[fierce crest]

I literally just started running an m1 electro staff today

[nocturne dust]

Nobody forgot, it's just more boring than smite

[fierce crest]

Feels fine

[young cliff]

Colossus feels odd considering that my vet is mouse sized, but sounds fun

[deft stump]

I have tall vet so kinda fits.

[jovial juniper]

Damn, the bar is that low 😭

[deft stump]

Though funni knoife vet heh.

[young cliff]

Tragic, more boring than smite is a low blow

[deft stump]

I mean, it's spam primary and quell and everything dies.

[tacit stump]

i would like something like vermintides 2 lifestealer staff where both buttons are usefull

[fierce crest]

There is no way that a high rof projectile weapon is more boring than holding down a button and nothing else

[young cliff]

Still, more boring than smite is a really new type of low

[nocturne dust]

LMB spam is literally "hold down button and nothing else"

It's also more annoying than smite because it's louder

[deft stump]

At least smite is relatively silent.

[upbeat kestrel]

ball staff

it shoots big balls

[tacit stump]

those are piercing balls i want exploding balls instead

[nocturne dust]

Trauma shoots invisible balls

that explode

[quartz flare]

kinda miss the fire-javelin staff form Vermintide 2 but really don;t know how will it differ from voidstrike and assail

[fierce crest]

If you installed an aimbot to play a pve game idk what to tell you

[tacit stump]

nah i mean like fireball staff and not conflagaration staff

[nocturne dust]

You have to aim a bit with smite too.

and smite slows you down which is a cause for concern in some situations, especially when ranged is involved

LMB spam is literally 'point at threat and win'

the bar is not high, but somehow it's below the floorboards

[fierce crest]

Smite does take a bit of aim, you've lost the plot

[quartz flare]

oh and the beam staff too

that might have potential i think

[nocturne dust]

Smite is 'point in general direction' aim. You also want to kite a bit so every enemy is in front.

LMB spam has mad suppression, so 'point in general direction' is completely viable for it too.

[tacit stump]

could use ek staff with full auto mod

[nocturne dust]

I do, but even if you don't click spam is hardly different from holding down the button.

[weary idol]

voidstrike is slow and has good cleave

make the projectile fast with a high finesse bonus for headclicking things

still slow charge time so it doesn't invalidate using a gun

[nocturne dust]

yes, but space magic does invalidate using a gun

for thematic reasons

[young cliff]

Your contribution to my collection is implemented appreciated (pending that I get the resources to upgrade the weapon itself) you think the changes to gaze favour this build? Feels that the quelling on activation helps this style a fair bit

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't hurt, but it's not the biggest thing. Nice, but definitely superfluous.

[young cliff]

Also

[young cliff]

But what if space magic...but in boolet?

Guaranteed crits that hurt more because warp juice

[nocturne dust]

very boring

all it does is more damage

snooz

replace scrier's with cool nonsense like homing projectiles for guns

[young cliff]

Imagine marking with scriers and every bullet acts like that scene of the 5th element flying to headshot no matter where you aim

[plucky flax]

Nah its much nicer to use than void. Bolt staff my fav

Void is slow af

[tired estuary]

I like the passive charging on bolt staff

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-tissue-gif-22242558

[plucky flax]

Said the man can't play with guns

[nocturne dust]

I can, I just choose not to.

(until bosses annoy me enough that I go grab me gun)

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-wizard-of-oz-wizard-of-oz-cowardly-lion-put-em-up-put-them-up-gif-21398947

[quartz flare]

I just wish there were more staffs in general

[nocturne dust]

As do we all.

[quartz flare]

sigh

[tacit stump]

atleast we got fgs

sadly it is sluggish movement wise

[deft stump]

I mean, it has everything else though.

[tacit stump]

by rgs it feels less the way

[left hare]

havoc 40 achieved again

infernus

so goated

[remote shadow]

I'm starting to wonder if it's physically possible to beat Malice Mortis in under 25 minutes

I'm losing track of how many games I complete at the 26 minute mark

[strong gulch]

I know someone got it after a hotfix shortened the paused between waves or something like that.

Luck of the draw seems like

[blissful solar]

pretty sure i was in a lobby that got it a few days ago

i think it was even damnation since that's all i play

think this is it, the timer almost certainly includes the time before starting it

something that might be important is the 5% instakill voltaic ability since it lets you skip a lot of time on the monstrosities if you get lucky

[left hare]

uh i just had a bug where i got voidblast instead of inferno staff

[marble crater]

It is possible, I got it

[remote shadow]

Fake news

[strong gulch]

No one is getting it in my games. I have my sub 30 oggy just slapping the entire time.

[tacit stump]

i got it in a random lobby

[tacit stump]

ogryn 20% rocks

[blissful solar]

yeah or that

[strong gulch]

that one is so funny

[tacit stump]

or you have a dorky th zealot

smites monsters with thunderhammer

while aplying burn through archetype for more aoe clear

[remote shadow]

I just got a 25 minute run

So close, yet so far

[marble crater]

I got the penance on a 25min run, I guess it rounds up or down based on how many seconds?

[remote shadow]

[blissful solar]

[plucky flax]

Play oggy and pick all the nades boons for your nuke

Become oggy heinmer

[dark swift]

whats the dump on voidstrikes?

[strong gulch]

Blast radius.

Warp resist on all other force weapons.

By all force weapons, I mean both ranged and melee categories.

[dark swift]

ah ty!

[quartz flare]

Maybe BB charge time/peril generation should differ depending on enemy types

so that even if you target the wrong enemy you can quickly do it again

ex) ogryn/maulers: default, other elites/specials: EP speed 15~30peril, regular mobs: EP + KR speed 5-15 peril

idk just throwing ideas cause I want BB to feel better to use.

btw did the game buff soulblaze? I don't remember KF applying to soulblaze DOT. or was it alway that way?

currently on meat grinder and the specials are in an endless dying loop

[strong gulch]

BB is slow, but you can nearly chain it by tapping quell. If you begin the cast at 97% or lower, you can keeping doing BBs.

Also yeah. KF now procs off DoTs (not electro from wall tho). PC can proc off SB kills now as well.

[marble crater]

PC and KF proccing off SB dots is so peak

[quartz flare]

thx for explainging was confused for a moment

[strong gulch]

KF used to proc off more than regular fire burn DoT from like infernus a long time ago, but now we get nearly all DoTs prccing KF.

[glacial vapor]

Do we know if it's intended?

[strong gulch]

NP. If you don't want to chance it with 97% peril, you and just quell until you see your hands come together and begin casting again.

Default UI can round funny. So 97% isn't always 97%.

The change seems to be indented if looking at mortis trails indulgences.

But idk. lmao

[quartz flare]

I have a problem mainly not because it's slow, but rather it's hard to pick a special/elite in a mixed horde. being slow is just additional. so if I accidentely burst a poxwalker. I want it to be quick so I can try again.

[marble crater]

Don't use it in hordes

Easy solution

[quartz flare]

but it's cool

i wanna pick em

[marble crater]

It's not a good use of your time as psyker

[strong gulch]

Specials and elites tend to be taller. Jump for easier access.

But yeah, gotta have space or make space to do it.

Dodge duck dive

[nocturne dust]

Make your character tall

[strong gulch]

Temporary tall

[quartz flare]

jumping definately sounds helpful. thx for the tip

[nocturne dust]

Legit, making your character taller can help you pick out specials in the crowd and hit heads in melee

[glacial vapor]

Just be Ogryn

[nocturne dust]

Not that you need it, as I did play short psyker for a long while. If you aim at the right angle, you'll grab the special.

[weary idol]

max height characters can hit bulwarks over their shields with any weapon with a stab or overhead attack

[quartz flare]

sometimes you just wanna go sparky sparky boom boom instead of rock boom boom

[weary idol]

but minimum height characters also get shot less because cover actually works for them

so

[glacial vapor]

Psyker Ogryn keystone when

What could go wrong?

[weary idol]

They already have assail? (rock)

[strong gulch]

Oggy throw psyker like a warp nade when?

[nocturne dust]

this is not true

Cover never works

If 0.001% of your body is visible, the ranged enemies will target and hit.

[mental rock]

I take min height character because smol

who cares about gameplay advantages

[dapper shadow]

wtf I thought hitbox would be the same regardless

[weary idol]

no lol

[dapper shadow]

my ogryn has been the largest possible size since forever

210 levels of ogryn

[weary idol]

ogryn max height is betetr because it makes it easier to hit over bulwarks

and cover already doesn't work for you to begin with justy being an ogryn

[dapper shadow]

fair

though I wonder if thats why every other ogryn Ive seen are minheight

[strong gulch]

My psyker hight reflects my skill level. Mid

[dapper shadow]

to make their hitbox smaller

[tacit stump]

beside ogryn

[glacial vapor]

Not like's there's any real difference lol

[marble crater]

The real difference is the friends we made along the way

[tacit stump]

typical anime quote

[marble crater]

Yes, that's the point

[strong gulch]

friends friends friendly friends i definitely have friends

[runic juniper]

Not if I dream them away

[strong gulch]

Just dream up some more and then...

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-meme-cute-cat-cat-meme-meme-xafer-gif-1492599941141242049

[late sphinx]

Taking any damage as psyker feels so punishing, you got simultaniously hit by two guys, goodbye half your health, skill issue 👏

[runic juniper]

have you tried spaming your staff?

[late sphinx]

yep

[glacial vapor]

Have you tried spamming it harder?

[late sphinx]

but im not using inferno so thats on me

[marble crater]

Have you tried not getting hit?

[glacial vapor]

But in all seriousness yeah, one mistake gets you in trouble lol

[late sphinx]

Nooo dont troll me 😭 this isn't zealot chat you're supposed to be nice to meeee

[runic juniper]

all the staffs do enough cc, a bit if a pain with voidstrike but it'll keep you out of melee

gunners are bad news if you dont have the toughness regen for them though

[marble crater]

Psyker is glass cannon, so best is indeed to not get hit we also have great toughness regen though, so we can get hit once with breaks to refill toughness

[late sphinx]

ive maxed every classes pennances apart from psyker just a whole different ball game, no get out of jail free cards

(apart from spam your meta build staffs)

[glacial vapor]

Psyker has the easiest penances tbh lol

[late sphinx]

he really does

lots of just "keep doing it"

[runic juniper]

especially now since there's several spots to farm elites and specials

[late sphinx]

rather than hop on one leg while taking a poo taking out 5000 enemies as veteran

what was that pennance so stupid

[marble crater]

Psyker has a lot of tools to help with staying alive, Kinetic Deflection (to block with peril instead of stamina), Deflector (to block ranged attacks with peril), a lot of CC, Bubble

[runic juniper]

at launch the game simply didnt spawn enough

[calm sapphire]

Kinetic deflection

[late sphinx]

is my current progress

[marble crater]

Almost done

[runic juniper]

you still got the blow up on enemies one?

an elite*

[late sphinx]

nah ive done that one, all the blow yourself up ones were easy once i realized perils of the warp was stupid speak for kill yourself

So many random wordings for some of them

i got 37/40 for the scriers gaze one

[runic juniper]

it's a tabletop thing, but it isnt really mentioned anywhere else i guess

[late sphinx]

they also expect you to remember the OG name for your F

As they call it something weird, not venting shriek or scriers or shield

[runic juniper]

oh yeah, relic of the og being the only ability

[late sphinx]

its also kinda weird how little pennances are to do with the shield, arguably the one they should push you most toward using

[glacial vapor]

Well BB is obvious. Took me a while on vet to realise "Volley fire" = "Exe stance"

[marble crater]

Half of them are from before shield was a thing

[strong gulch]

A lot of the random wording is older names still being used.

[runic juniper]

yeah coming from beta it hasnt hit me that the wording for those penances is extra fucky now

[calm sapphire]

Still think it's stupid for fatshark to rename the staffs

[runic juniper]

still call em surge purge trauma

[marble crater]

"Stun 500 specials with your shield walls" Hound/Mutie/Burster - waves are my best friends now

[strong gulch]

This game is poop at telling you what it means. Rip if your game isn't in English. I hear it's worse.

[glacial vapor]

Especially since they made it worse with the two void staffs

[strong gulch]

Renaming the IAGs too. Why??

[marble crater]

Should I change mine to German and have an aneurysm?

[strong gulch]

I care about you, so no..

[marble crater]

Peril irl

[runic juniper]

at the very least the gun names were already close together, so there was a good chance you'd say its name and have to specify which one it actually is anyway. the staff names were actually unique though

[strong gulch]

Wdym. The most popular one was called a name that was put onto another gun.

[runic juniper]

like the columnus auto, there were/are other guns with colomnus that my brain shifts to when someone mentions it

[strong gulch]

You're the only one I've seen say that.

[marble crater]

Depends how you sorted them in your brain I guess

[tacit stump]

now it is vraks

[runic juniper]

and you specify the mark which I cant remember off the top my head

[strong gulch]

Me specifically or in general?

There are only a few weapons that I specify mks. Like DS, FGS, or knife.

[runic juniper]

im better at remembering "slow/mid/fast" and then the weapon name

[marble crater]

I think regular force swords are the only weapons that I use the name instead of the mark for I don't even know their marks

[runic juniper]

just in general. I'll do it myself too and then realize that I could be talking about a completely different weapon than what im thinking

[strong gulch]

No idea either

[tacit stump]

illisi, obscurus,.deimos

[marble crater]

I asked last week and someone told me, but I already forgot again

[runic juniper]

force swords got unique names too at least, and I forget which mark has the fun pokey for the greatswords

[marble crater]

Both have a poke

[strong gulch]

I remember vraks is mkV because V is the number and in the name. (in English)

[runic juniper]

yeah but the push poke is annoying, at least you can do the funny bug and hold that poke infinitely without being able to let go

[marble crater]

I remember vraks because people complain about the name all the time

[tacit stump]

columnus mk5

[runic juniper]

I remember the V for the iag because that's one of the most popular guns effected

[strong gulch]

They both have a poke. Depends on where in the move set you want it.

[runic juniper]

I thought one only had a light poke if you disregard the push attack? I want that big poke that'll give 20k damage

[tacit stump]

does someone remembet the vraks mk7

[runic juniper]

and push attacking for it instead of having it chainable is cringe

[marble crater]

Mk6 has poke in the heavy chain, mk8 has poke after the push attack and is stronger than mk6 poke

[runic juniper]

sounds like a headhunter/vigilant?

[strong gulch]

I was responding to "I forget which mark has the fun pokey for the greatswords". They both do.

Light poke spam is deimos.

[runic juniper]

I only think of the 3 burst headhunter when vraks is mentioned, it was cool when no reprise stacked infinitely

[tacit stump]

bingo, the single shot semiauto one

[runic juniper]

fuck

[tacit stump]

the revolvera screwed me up cause before the good one was zarona now it is the bad one

the silliest stab is deimos h2

[runic juniper]

Mutant annihilator is always nice

[tacit stump]

ds4 can do it aswll or covenant mk6

wished the fgs had different names

[runic juniper]

that greatsword heavy combo is insane for boss damage though. We were running a scriers psyker in havok 38 doing 15k damage a poke

[marble crater]

They swapped the revolver names? Say it ain't so

[tacit stump]

yes

[tacit stump]

i know that

[marble crater]

I didn't, that might be the worst change

[strong gulch]

The revolvers are still the same. At least the zarona and agrippina parts are the same.

[marble crater]

Good, then the whole vraks and columnus thing is the worst, or changing one of the evis marks for no reason

[late sphinx]

anyone wanna help me do the pennance for this:

put all 3 batteries in at once

randos just dont understand what im asking of them

[upbeat kestrel]

i did it with randos

very cooperative randos

sure can help

[upbeat kestrel]

https://discord.gg/QTe8Ew42

[rigid sky]

Also renaming Trauma to Voidblast... Just so now we can't talk about having void staff any more without it being unclear

[drifting steeple]

is ek op?

[rigid sky]

Zappy staff? I wouldn't really say so but the meta shifts a lot over time

I would call it fine

[drifting steeple]

reading a forum post and some guy puts it alongside dueling sword

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[drifting steeple]

okay

[plucky flax]

Not as op as current burga tho

Since it's harder to play.

[marble crater]

EK very OP, please don't use and get it nerfed

[drifting steeple]

but i love EK

[marble crater]

Okay then you can use it

[drifting steeple]

yay!

[plucky flax]

If you have spare apm you can increase dps.

With blitz cancel.

[marble crater]

"Why do you have broken fingers and CTS?"
"Because I wanted more dps in Darktide "

[drifting steeple]

whats apm

[marble crater]

Actions per minute

So if you have fast enough fingers and reactions you can increase your damage with extra button presses to skip animations

[glacial vapor]

I already feel stressed just using EK normally without all the cancels

[upper sun]

fun fact

not all keyboards/motherboards can support that many inputs at once

[marble crater]

Thankfully it's not needed at all

[upper sun]

so thats one thing controlers have on some older keyboards

[plucky flax]

Only required if you want to flex with big damage number on scoreboard for memes.

[marble crater]

I guess, just unfortunately that some of these things are not feasible to do at all, because your fingers will be off the stick for too long

[tacit stump]

get some backpedals

[marble crater]

I have two and they help, I would still need a few more

[tacit stump]

the best i can offer is 4

enough to avoid the face buttons

[drifting steeple]

i thought the quell cancel was patched out?

[marble crater]

I use mine to replace D-Pad buttons, combat ability and blitz

[tacit stump]

i don't touch gamepads in shooter settings

[plucky flax]

Only play fps with controller

[tacit stump]

i grew up as a pc player

[quartz flare]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ph36KgGe6Hs

this suddenly got recommended to me

now I see how smite could've been

[dull scroll]

EK used to 2 shot crushers, them's the times

[marble crater]

Smite used to be bugged and be able to cast for free with EP

[quartz flare]

deleting ragers with smite looks so satisfiying shame it's just false advertisement

[untold niche]

anyone playing deadzone rogue?

friend said it was quite fun

(demo available)

[molten saddle]

Whats changed been away for a few months

[marble crater]

New game made, Havoc has new modifiers, ogryn got an entire tree rework

[molten saddle]

Any changes to psyker

[marble crater]

We had a mini rework for our tree, a few more great options

Entire right side was buffed in the latest patch

[molten saddle]

Inferno staff bubble still the go to for havoc?

[marble crater]

Bubble is less needed, but it's still just as strong

[molten saddle]

Whats better

Shriek?

[marble crater]

maybe, it's only less needed because ranged enemies in havoc are not bullshit anymore

[molten saddle]

Ahhh ok gotcha

[copper jay]

Melee Psyker Havoc 40 when ?

[marble crater]

It's nice not getting deleted by them, but instead Havoc has more bosses, weakened boss spawns, twins spawns, captain

[molten saddle]

Ah ok sounds fun 🙂

[marble crater]

Give it Chaos as a challenge for a youtube video

[copper jay]

@plucky flax

[marble crater]

People are waiting to flame him again, I'm sure

[dull scroll]

you bring a gunpsyker into havoc in this pub climate people are going to put you on blocklist 😂

[marble crater]

and it would be deserved

[copper jay]

Blocking people is never deserved

After doing Havocs runs. Maelstrom Auric is a break

[marble crater]

I have blocked plenty of people for being toxic and for speedrunning already

[drifting steeple]

demios or illsi for ek build?

[marble crater]

Illisi

[late sphinx]

thanks to @upbeat kestrel for getting me my last spireside 13 bits I now have the drip

[dull scroll]

last guy I ever blocked was a psyker who ran smite/shock batton

guy was going off the rails trying to convince me it had some OP interaction that would carry a 40

went down twice during first wave and had half the dmg of everyone else

[drifting steeple]

i was doing illsi :)

i love force sword

[zinc phoenix]

😂

[drifting steeple]

its like coming home to your lover you havent see from the start of the war

[zinc phoenix]

It’s funny and I enjoy doing it too from time to time but shock baton is firmly meme

[marble crater]

Illisi is love, illisi is life

[zinc phoenix]

1970 called, they want the word lover back

[drifting steeple]

demios is pretty good too

i was playing with chain axe and thought "hey isnt this just deimos"

am happy

im really enjoying both my gunker and ek builds, i dont know what to play!

[marble crater]

Voidblast

[rigid sky]

Voidblast EP brain rupture dome with Deimos

[upbeat kestrel]

Coin toss

[rigid sky]

Swiss army psyker build. You do everything.

[dull scroll]

gunker is probably the most powerful auric build in the game

[marble crater]

Gunker is strong, though I at least have a bigger impact with EK, when it comes to keep the team from dying

[dull scroll]

it's auric, if they die they are weak

[marble crater]

Kinda yeah, had one player who always had problems with keeping pace with the rest of the team, even at the last 10m before evac he was still fighting off hordes and wouldn't enter the elevator

[dull scroll]

typical auric game nowadays you just farm pickup, new people are wayy to greedy when choosing difficulty

[marble crater]

I prefer that over 4 good players, because then it's just boring

[calm sapphire]

Auric overall just feels like malice for me coming back from doing havoc 35+ games repeatedly

[calm sapphire]

Havoc 40?

[dull scroll]

yes

[calm sapphire]

[dull scroll]

it was week 1 of 2.0, I thought he was a mad genius and took a chance 😭

[marble crater]

[dull scroll]

don't look at me like that, he had no borders no medal and a high true lvl, all pro players look like that!

[marble crater]

I don't look like that, it explains a few things

[calm sapphire]

U bring mods to inspect some of these imposters

[deft stump]

And you don't wanna play with me, hrmph.

[calm sapphire]

Funny enough u will quite often recognize the same ppl who play pub high havoc

[marble crater]

I almost never play with people from here

[upper sun]

me in the middle

[dull scroll]

your words not mine, that means we are even now for your help with those private penances

[marble crater]

It was only Clad if that guy was using a thammer and marty

[upper sun]

i am a shield kickback enjoyer now

[calm sapphire]

scuff scoreboard from a week ago on h40

[plucky flax]

I got that yesterday xd

[calm sapphire]

how would u know tho

[plucky flax]

Guy was flaming me from pre lobby for having gun

And flamed me throughout the round

[dull scroll]

half the community is pulling their hairs out trying to climb this new havoc

people will flame anybody for the slightest fault

[plucky flax]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1360941808577937639/image.png?ex=67fe44d4&is=67fcf354&hm=8752a78f5263805dc8efb8f9a1e367c59b73caf795471d714c7673809041f153&

Why oggy guy so mean

(He was lowest damage and first to die of course)

[calm sapphire]

understandable lol

Though I've yet to encounter pubs that are toxic over what build u should use or class

[deft stump]

I told you, oggies are either the nicest peeps or the most toxic peeps.

[upbeat kestrel]

They just roleplay bully

[plucky flax]

Tru is why I play oggy to balance the scale

Me veri nice

[upbeat kestrel]

I roleplay bodyguard so im nice

[deft stump]

I'm just confused messing with GG.

[upbeat kestrel]

?

Why confuse

[deft stump]

Grenade gauntlet.

[upbeat kestrel]

Gg goos

[deft stump]

Trying to make hybird build.

[upbeat kestrel]

Yeah?

[deft stump]

Is a mess.

[upbeat kestrel]

Expected

[deft stump]

Thus.

[upper sun]

ogryn is so comfy to play just spam heavy attacks and save ur team all game

[plucky flax]

Yes

Karsolas heavy spam

That's it that's all I can do

[upper sun]

sometimes throw rock

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

i went from shield to carsales and i keep overshooting the heavies 😭

[plucky flax]

Just keep spamming

[deft stump]

You mean see mutie, rock.

[plucky flax]

Can't lose

[deft stump]

Teehee.

[plucky flax]

I can even out damage psyker

Maybe the psyker is a bit sus but still

[upper sun]

can u out damage u?

[plucky flax]

I wouldn't let an ogryn outdamage me if I was playing psyker

[upper sun]

agent would barrel himself 😭

[deft stump]

Yes, but you outdamage yourself.

[upper sun]

rok is so nice

[deft stump]

Rock friend muties yes?

[ornate hamlet]

what kinda gun psyker were u runnin?

sidenote holy shit mister e's takes make me feel like im overloading on peril

[drifting steeple]

what builds is deimos force sword good in

[marble crater]

You always call me a noob

[wide pecan]

Dude, everytime i play Havoc, some bs happens and i get launched off the map because of an explosion while im horde clearing, then the horde overwhelms my team, some dude rage quits and we gotta rely on one guy that has a stealth ability, oh but whats that? Daemonhost ritual? Great!

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[glacial vapor]

Only time I wouldn't use it is EK, since you mostly just fend off chaff with your melee

Everything else gets zapped

[plucky flax]

Yes you

[drifting steeple]

deimos force sword activated ability gets those synapses firing

[plucky flax]

Recon las 12

[drifting steeple]

frfr

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve seen some new og builds that seem literally impossible for the game to damage, it’s pretty insane

[rigid sky]

I don't like Deimos so much for gunker either but it can totally work

Just subjectively I want to be killier on gunker

[drifting steeple]

thats what im running it on

[glacial vapor]

I love it on gunker. Better mobility than FGS

Feel like a slug whenever a pull out FGS

[upbeat kestrel]

Maybe obscurus

Its decent

[young cliff]

FGS feels like is telling you "no running, we hold this ground in the Emperor's name" and I always say "yes"

Also it's horde clear power is absurd

[drifting steeple]

i havent thought about obscurus in yonks

[young cliff]

Terrible horde swings, but really good Vs heavy enemies in general

[rigid sky]

I prefer duelling sword for my gunker really. Or I just take the FGS8 anyway.

[drifting steeple]

naw wait obscurus is what i was thinking abt

[young cliff]

Imo is really good for Void last and inferno, but you need horde clear on weapon or assail as bare minimum to complement it

[drifting steeple]

diemos or obscurus for gunker/assail 🤔

[young cliff]

Imo diemos, has good swing patterns for horde management and can fight caparace with good results. You can use Obscurus and absolutely crush crushers in melee with swings but you will depend on team for horde control

[marble crater]

UnsanctionedPsyker
UnfriendlyPsyker

[rigid sky]

So you'd class Deimos as the middle ground weapon more, and Obscurus as the single-target focus now?

[drifting steeple]

thoughts on the perks and blessings?

for ek build

[rigid sky]

Never take blazing spirit on anything but Voidblast

And generally crit damage is a bad perk but idk about electro staff specifically

[prime elk]

crit hit damage is bad

[rigid sky]

I like slaughterer on Illisi a lot tbh, it stacks it very easily

[plucky flax]

Nah deimos just better with both

[rigid sky]

And I'm one of those weirdos that takes Bloodthirsty on it, although idk if I still would after the Mettle nerf

[drifting steeple]

really?

[marble crater]

Yes, it's not good on anything else, especially bad on melee unfortunately

[rigid sky]

Yeah, it's surprisingly bad. I wanted the cool fire sword too.

You can't even trigger wildfire with it because most of the time you're killing anything you're slashing anyway

[drifting steeple]

my thought process was that it would be another avenue to apply soulblaze

[rigid sky]

It's a really bad avenue for it

Soulblaze is good because it gets applied in strong ways usually

[young cliff]

its a much better all around weapon imo, where illis whants to be horde and trade single target and obscurus do the inverse, Deimos is the one who do it all

[rigid sky]

Perilous combustion, purg, blazing trauma and shriek are way better sources

[marble crater]

The only reason why blazing spirit on voidblast is good, is because the radius for applying it is so much bigger than the radius for the damage

Otherwise it would suck there too

[rigid sky]

It effectively broadens the centre of the Sombrero of Death.

[drifting steeple]

well unfortunately i cant change the perks bc i have no dockets

[rigid sky]

So Voidblast becomes lethal with repeated blasts right to the edge

[rigid sky]

Easily fixed by sending a few more heretical bastards back to their ruinous false gods

[marble crater]

Crit damage is bad because the bonus only increases the extra damage from the crit portion, not the total damage.

[deft stump]

Just do mortis.

Pray for no trappers, ezy.

[drifting steeple]

damn does no one play damnation?

[deft stump]

SEA? Only auric damns.

[marble crater]

I only play normal damnation for the modifiers to farm penance, but I didn't have problems getting games in EU

[deft stump]

I keep joking about being bottom barrel heresy* with the * for a reason.

I literally only have auric damns avaliable unless I wanna solo.

You know server is ded when you duo auric damn with a random.

[drifting steeple]

i spent all my money on a pair of pants

[marble crater]

Pants are important

[deft stump]

Oh. But shinies.

[zinc phoenix]

I just can’t comprehend spending money on cosmetics

I will never adapt to digital Barbie economy

[marble crater]

I have been playing it for "free" on gamepass for almost 1,5 years now, so I spent 5€ on a staff skin and if there is armor in the rotation that I like I will buy that as well.

I think that's fair

[weary idol]

I bought some of the earlier cosmetic packs that came with weapon skins and a trinket

for...300 aquilas less than bundles cost now

Came with a really neat dark blue combat sword skin and I never use that weapon because after all this time that weapon is still absolute garbage

Seriously how has the combat sword never been buffed to be on par with other weapons?

It has always been trash tier

[marble crater]

[prime elk]

combat sword?

you mean heavy sword?

or something else?

[weary idol]

this thing

[obtuse walrus]

Devil's Claw

[weary idol]

yeah sure

combat sword is what the cosmetics call it

anyways why has it literally never been good

[queen fog]

I like it

[marble crater]

Skin doesn't even look awful

[weary idol]

weapon customization mod is kinda getting in the way

it's not for that model

but it is that dark blue gradient color and I quite like the skin

[queen fog]

oh was talkin devils claw in general

[weary idol]

not enough to use what may well be the actual worst melee in the game

but y'know

[patent mango]

im g uessing fatshark wants it to be a defensive secondary instead of something you actually use

[queen fog]

I’m a fiend for spaming the special action

[weary idol]

honestly a tossup on if the chainsword or dclaw is worse

[patent mango]

metro 2033 is free on steam

[marble crater]

[patent mango]

isnt chainsword like alright

[upper sun]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/286690/Metro_2033_Redux/
free

[weary idol]

XIIIg has very strong horde clear since it doesn't have finesse loss on cleave

so its crits do fucktons of damage even into density

It's still bad because against even flak armor it loses almost all of its damage

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Even gun psyker with Scriers Gaze+Disrupt Destiny does not make Chainsword feel like it does good damage

[patent mango]

someone needs to sharpen those chains

[weary idol]

It's so comically bad into armor

[patent mango]

yeah idk some weps in this game just do like 9 dmg

[weary idol]

Like Heavy Sword's carapace damage, but it's everything that isn't infested/unarmored

[patent mango]

it made some sense before but ds4 exists on everyone now so lol