psyker-class

[plucky flax]

And I think it runs better than kcd1.

[zinc phoenix]

The camera still gets a little stupid when you duel a dozen dudes

[prime elk]

Hated combat so much in KCD1

[plucky flax]

I have fps dip with my hardware lol on a game came out in 2018.

Kcd1 was built different.

[analog agate]

My same criticism for kcd2. You become too OP too fast

[zinc phoenix]

But most people don’t try to solo entire late game camps by walking up and pulling out their longsword so it’s not an issue usually 😂

[deft stump]

It was in Humble Choice. Base only though.

[marble crater]

Get better hardware, smh

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah and everyone is like “just don’t use the high end armor that is literally showered on you constantly”

[plucky flax]

Tru let me find 5090 for msrp (challenge level impossible)

[zinc phoenix]

I downgraded to black brigantine

[upper sun]

im thinking about it but prolly wont get it for a while

[prime elk]

A game that prided itself on its realism. Yet in tournaments you can wack a guy with a longsword 20 times and it doesn't do shit because you're not high leveled enough

[zinc phoenix]

It’s somewhat stealthy and solid armor but not OP

[upper sun]

itll prolly be 80% off for skulls

[zinc phoenix]

You can also just use a hammer and clown him

[plucky flax]

I think realism but at its core it's still an rpg.

And RPG game makes you OP af when you're high level.

Like fallout/skyrim etc.

[deft stump]

Ah. I CBA to play till i get the DLCS. Extreme OCD problems.

[analog agate]

Kcd2 over corrected and no point in using anything besides longsword or short sword

[upper sun]

nah perfectly valid

[zinc phoenix]

I stopped playing KCD2 because I got to the jew part of the game and it became intensely buggy

[upper sun]

better wait until skulls if you like those types of games

[zinc phoenix]

You will know what i mean by the Jew part when you get there, I don’t want to spoil

[analog agate]

Strange. I made it fine through that part. Well, next week is another patch and hardcore

[plucky flax]

Pls no I will play it soon maybe next month.

[deft stump]

Not really, I only have it cos someone gave me it. Lmao. They were like, "You like WH40k? Here."

[zinc phoenix]

Did you go there in like the first week 😂

[upper sun]

ah so you wanna get the dlc before you play it?

[zinc phoenix]

I booked some vacation time for the game

[analog agate]

First 3 days. I no lifed that fucking game

[zinc phoenix]

Lucky man, I had a cutscene completely bug out and there was teleporting and shit

[deft stump]

Probs. But also not high up if it's expensive. Since I have a very small budget and I rather get things I wanna play NOW.

[analog agate]

I did 100 hours in 8 days lmao

[zinc phoenix]

I did enjoy killing a lot of MFers tho

Game was like “you are being overrun” and I was like “no I ain’t bitch”

[upper sun]

yeah im waiting till skulls whole thing is prolly gonna be on sale again

[deft stump]

That and I wanna keep at least $20 for Commissar set if it EVER rereleases.

I want my Vet drip.

[zinc phoenix]

Me out here in my mobian 21st gear

[upper sun]

i only get weapon cosmetics tbh

[hoary night]

Do yall think trying to get warp battery on mortis trials is easier than a regular mission?

[deft stump]

I only care about black and red weapons sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[zinc phoenix]

Probably, but you might die of boredom

[plucky flax]

Bro is built different.

[upper sun]

i dunno mortis has less elites than auric

[hoary night]

In theory, couldn't you just sit during one of the capture and hold / analyze segments and keep farming kills?

they never stop coming

the maulers, atleast

[deft stump]

The one where you keep max? Yes and no. If you get all the kills, yes. If not... I hope 4% is good for you.

[hoary night]

well lets say hypothetically you have a group of friends here, so they know in advance

[deft stump]

They still come in waves, and there's a small delay between them if you kill them all.

You can also roll BS like trapper, dogs and muties.

[hoary night]

this penance just really doesnt seem like its going to be fun lol

[deft stump]

Or Reapers, crushers and maulers.

Or sniper, bulwarks and crushers.

You get penned in somehow and just die to overhead or sniper.

[marble crater]

Which penance? Killing specific enemies? Just play the game

[zinc phoenix]

Biggest issue with rogue trader is that the combat system is convoluted without being relevant

[deft stump]

Keep max warp syphon charges for 2 mins.

I assume.

Or the maxed BB.

[marble crater]

Ah

[deft stump]

Warning, the BB 10 kills thing don't count from memory.

[zinc phoenix]

You dont need 90% of the stuff they give you to win on hardest difficulty, its just about stacking a few key modifiers + extra turns

[deft stump]

ONLY the primary BB target counts.

[marble crater]

Play shock troop with EK and bad teammates then

[zinc phoenix]

I wish they’d buff the standard las gun

[deft stump]

Cos they didn't count to literally any headshot counter and such.

[zinc phoenix]

Remember when the kant12 was the best gun in the game and now you never see it 😢

Sadtide

[deft stump]

Unless you have a returning player from ages ago who doesn't know about meta changes.

Or newbie.

[zinc phoenix]

I wish they’d make it like a heavy version of the laspistol where you can optimize it for absolutely slaughtering unyielding shit

Huh

Well now I’m wondering if I could do that 😂

[marble crater]

Oh no

[nocturne dust]

whomst'd've'eed

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not

[upper sun]

what if on discount

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust hello

[zinc phoenix]

meh

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch resummoning for mortis

[zinc phoenix]

Issue with it is it’s super clunky animation. Its also anime style which feels super wrong for the universe

It takes forever for anything to happen and when it does it’s very boring

Also gray knights have to be the lamest faction in the universe

[upper sun]

you can disable action cam/animations no?

[nocturne dust]

hi

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t remember

[upper sun]

i had this fucking issue with xcom2

[zinc phoenix]

I think you can disable the stupid action cam but the animations still take forever

[upper sun]

bro i dont wanna watch a badly animated dude throwing a grenade in the wrong direction

[nocturne dust]

Says the darktide player

[upper sun]

or my favorite aiming 180 degrees away from a target and landing a hit

[nocturne dust]

[zinc phoenix]

The one good action cam I’ve seen is on the Battlestar Galactica fleet battle game

[tired estuary]

Why not

[zinc phoenix]

Legit it was constantly zooming in on cool stuff

[upper sun]

I HAVE 100 HOURS IN THE GAME

[zinc phoenix]

Felt exactly like the tv show

[upper sun]

IVE SEEN ENOUGH

[deft stump]

Have you seen reapers shooting from their butts?

[zinc phoenix]

They even had shake cam and stuff

[upper sun]

yes

[zinc phoenix]

Bro what 😂

[deft stump]

So, that's not badly animated?

[upper sun]

happens to gunners too

[zinc phoenix]

How many levels of darktube are you on 😂

[nocturne dust]

It's a slaanesh tactic

[deft stump]

Even normal shooters at times.

[upper sun]

their muzzle flash can aim sideways if you turn around them too quickly mid salvo

[analog agate]

More like I took 3 days off work while my wife judgmentally stared at me when I told her why I took 3 days off

[plucky flax]

If it was me I'm taking the whole week off.

But I know american has it harder in term of paid leave.

[strong gulch]

I will load game in a moment

[marble crater]

Man, do I play normal damnation pox gas or do I play auric heresy pox gas, which will be less cursed in terms of teammates?

[icy flower]

are modifiers in trials tied to the type you pick? Haven't gotten aoe Brain Burst in a while. Is it voltaic only?

[analog agate]

Damnation less bad

Auric heresy is just a very weird category

[marble crater]

I don't think it's based on the modifier you pick, didn't pay too much attention though

Damnation it is, if we wipe, I know who I will blame

[deft stump]

Is pure RNG.

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042857623285940234

[icy flower]

I've been picking pyrokinetic a lot lately and never gotten BB modifier with it, so was wondering

maybe just rng

[deft stump]

The 3 choosable ones are RNG based on a pool on what blitz and ult you pick and some generics.

[icy flower]

although ngl not even sure which type is the best to pick with psyker, a lot of them don't feel like they even mesh together, unlike other classes.

[deft stump]

Auric Heresy is Heresy but players think they are too good for normal heresy.

[calm sapphire]

play havoc pox gas, the most sane teammates for sure

[icy flower]

I guess it is generic upgrade in my case, since I always run the same stuff

[deft stump]

It's just luck tbh.

[icy flower]

looks like it

at least not gonna feel bad trying out different types

[deft stump]

It's a silly fun mode anyway.

[zinc phoenix]

“I want to play with people so dumb they actually clicked on auric heresy”

[icy flower]

it is my favourite mode in entire Darktide

[deft stump]

Well, if you get lucky, you get 4 competent players who all did that to try practicing solo on an easier diff.

[icy flower]

I already had moved on from havoc in the same time frame back when it was released

[deft stump]

To be fair, new havoc isn't great for avg players tbh.

[icy flower]

I honestly doubt I will ever play it again regardless.

I just wish auric damnation had the same enemy density as havoc

but that's pretty much it

[deft stump]

Ah, to be fair, some people play low/mid havocs for that.

[icy flower]

those stat nerfs, stupid modifiers, dead build variety is not anything I miss

only big crowds

[deft stump]

True.

Is why old H1 is the funni slack off where you get malice HP with damnation hordes.

[left hare]

purgatus perk blessings

?

[nocturne dust]

see pins

[upper sun]

flak AND crit chance/maniac/elite/unyielding
blaze away nexus

[marble crater]

So you

[deft stump]

No. I go damnation.

Every other diff is ded.

Why do you think, Bottom Barrel Heresy* player?

[marble crater]

Because you play heresy

Also normal damnation is uneventful, guy died because he refused to heal at the medstation while at 5 HP

[deft stump]

.-.

[rich spindle]

Auric maelstrom too easy havoc too hard

[analog agate]

I’d give both my nuts for a havoc mode without the quell/ammo nerfs

[hearty wolf]

Exdee

[analog agate]

The quell nerf makes staves feel worse. Not just function worse but feel worse which is too bad

[prime elk]

Blame M1 quell macro abusers

[strong gulch]

Good night @hearty wolf

[analog agate]

No I mean for havoc. Though what you are talking about is also true. The delay makes them feel jankier

[hearty wolf]

thankies

[humble skiff]

yummy

[hearty wolf]

Gaming

[lone ravine]

[hearty wolf]

But it can't be red

Dismantle

[lone ravine]

mastery skin

is now red

[hearty wolf]

:o

[marble crater]

Failed to clutch because I was trappered

Worst part? My assail shard made a 180 and killed the trapper afterwards

[upper sun]

you're welcome

#zealot-class message

[marble crater]

Deserved

[strong gulch]

@upper mist Sorry. We were all leaving. 😭

Hope you find a team.

[upper mist]

oh my bad sorry have a good night!

[strong gulch]

Was allowed to kill monsters with rock in trials. The one shot silly rock.

[marble crater]

🪨

[robust drum]

what does "lock psychic power on target" do

[marble crater]

Where does it say that?

[robust drum]

when im using the psyker ability

brain burst i think

[verbal thistle]

Brain burst

Yes

It does decent single target damage

[robust drum]

oh wait i can get smite now :D

[verbal thistle]

with almost infinite range

[marble crater]

So just means you have that target selected and it won't change

[robust drum]

whats the difference between it and the other one

[verbal thistle]

meant for elites and specials

[lone ravine]

holding m2 means you charge and can pop it on anyone and you'll keep charge even if your original intended target dies

[robust drum]

okay thanks

[weary idol]

M2 charge is also slower and costs higher peril right?

[lone ravine]

its a second slower

and probably just costs more because you charge longer

[robust drum]

ive unlocked smite and im gonna try that :D

[analog agate]

I use m2 charge when I hear a dog gonna spawn. And then I just keep waiting until I 97% when I figure the dog will spawn at a future door. Then I let go and the dog spawns

[white quest]

So in terms of niche usecases, MK8 Force Greatsword with Charged Strike lets you cross a stagger breakpoint against bulwark shields that's just long enough for that mark to get one heavy swing in. Doesn't work without Charged Strike. Curious if it affects more useful stagger breakpoints.

[lone ravine]

its a nice CC tool but dont use it unless your team needs it because it doesnt deal much dmg

[jovial juniper]

Get 30 levels
Build for damage and kill everything short of oggys in less than 8 seconds

[weary idol]

it's kinda bad when you first get it since it only stuns

but recent buffs to Scriers Gaze lets you do some funny stuff with Empowered Psionics down at the bottom of the tree

[robust drum]

what does charging smite do i looked at something and nothing happens

[strong gulch]

This means charged strikes with stealth changed. It didn't use to have any CC like that.

[lone ravine]

you hold m2 to charge it up and press m1 to start smiting

charging it up increases the speed and range that it will electrocute new targets

[zinc phoenix]

Does warp unbound still have a gap second? I haven’t noticed it but I also play very careful around gaze these days

[strong gulch]

I think they actually fixed it.

[zinc phoenix]

Very nice

[strong gulch]

They said in patch notes that they fixed it, but you know how that can go.

[lone ravine]

i played scriers voidstrike like a week ago and i never noticed myself exploding using it

[strong gulch]

I haven't exploded from it lately.

[zinc phoenix]

I genuinely haven’t boomed from it

And I love that gaze is now boom canceling

[strong gulch]

ye

[zinc phoenix]

Such a good change

[robust drum]

how do you make it better

[jovial juniper]

Charged is more damage
More targets

[restive slate]

What kind of build is Scryier Voidstrike? I haven't tried before

[zinc phoenix]

Great build for grilling yourself

[lone ravine]

get surge for 2x ball on crit and you just spam charged shot

make sure you dont explode after the 10 seconds are up

[white quest]

is there a table with stagger values for different effects? because it could be it was changed, or it might be unique when combined with the greatsword's own stagger value, yeah? or it could just be too niche for people to have thoroughly tested with every weapon swing/enemy.

[weary idol]

It actually isn't more damage. It's just more targets and spreads faster

[strong gulch]

BB (brain burst) and smite are both a blitz. The purple nodes are keystones. The middle keystone, is EP (empowered psionics). EP buffs blitz.

[weary idol]

Oh also manually releasing it after staggers affected enemies

[zinc phoenix]

This is why I do short pulses

[strong gulch]

Too niche. No one takes it. Before the recent patch. Charged strike didn't behave like that.

Someone would have to dig into the code or something.

[white quest]

People tested the greatsword against bulwark shields with charged before?

[lone ravine]

and right after we figure out all the stagger breakpoints the next patch will break it again

and it will never get fixed

[strong gulch]

IDK but CS had ZERO CC, but that kinda doesn't matter now that I think about it. Because this patch, bulwark shields were changed.

But I feel you on CS and FGS 8 having some unique interaction.

[white quest]

ahh I'll have to look into that. I'm fixating on shields, because I didnt notice stagger differences against other targets. And only the greatsword seems to give that brief bulwark opening out of what I tested. But I also didn't test it extensively.

so it must just tip a stagger threshhold or something.

[strong gulch]

I do know that CS hits weakspots in you melee a target in a weakspot. The H2 from FGS8 on the bulwark makes the "you hit in in the head" sound.

That's all I know. lmao

[white quest]

So even if niche, it would be fun to find out if there's something cool and somewhat useful you can do with it. My dream would be something like how you can push attack bulwarks while they're attacking when using certain chain weapons, stagger them, and basically do a riposte saw attack into them.

[buoyant maple]

not rly worth because charged strike's electrocution DOT doesn't count as warp atk

[strong gulch]

It might stagger them in a different way than a PA or something does. So, maybe can do something during stagger cool down or just have a little CC with heavy spamming mixed horde... or are too impatience to wait the second needed for a bulwark to attack.

[buoyant maple]

so enemies dying to them won't give u any toughness

surely this is a design overlook right

[strong gulch]

You mean soulstealer?

[buoyant maple]

yea, electrocution DOT kills can't proc soulstealer

and it's not melee kill either

[strong gulch]

You would think so, but who knows

[buoyant maple]

so u don't get any toughness

[white quest]

Oh yeah I think it's garbage damage/synergy wise. I'm solely thinking about stagger.

[strong gulch]

I was wondering about what category it was. lmao

[clear heath]

it's bugged to just not proc anything on kill

[strong gulch]

Still just talking about the interaction.

[clear heath]

it's not about being warp or not
it doesn't trigger either effect of malefic

it's straight up just not a kill

[strong gulch]

electro DoT also doesn't seem to trigger KF

[buoyant maple]

there're about only 7 enemies where melee stagger is useful
and charged strike doesn't change any of those 7 breakpoints:

mauler overhead
crusher overhead
bulwark shield stance
reaper suppressive volley
mutant charge
dreg rager combo
scab rager combo

[strong gulch]

I wasn't talking about worth.

I was talking about interesting or unique.

Even if electro DoT didn't mess up MM or toughness gen, CS isn't worth it.

But if you want to do something different, it exists.

[marble crater]

Wow, my discord was so bugged that I saw Potato's oldest messages before anything by Path and Json

[patent mango]

it apparently doesnt count the kill at all

i found it on forums lol

[buoyant maple]

yikes

[patent mango]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/psyker-charged-strike-kill-credit/102614

[strong gulch]

Finally undreaming heretics.

lmao

more smite bugs

[robust drum]

how do i counter ragers

[patent mango]

charged strike might be worth using when they make it count for malefic momentum

but right now its uhhh there i guess

[white quest]

Noted, thank you :)

[strong gulch]

While leveling, assail is your friend (right side blitz). It can CC them. Otherwise ranged is the safer option.

You can parry with devil's claw or dodge them with other melee, but ranged is safer.

[marble crater]

Shoot the rager

Alternatively hide behind the ogryn or zealot

(only works if they are not noobs)

[robust drum]

my alternative is getting absolutely molested

im captured and now im guarded by a rager lol

[strong gulch]

Babysat by the shoeless.

I've been there. I'll be there again.

[marble crater]

Imagine dying (me a few times in the maelstrom earlier)

[strong gulch]

Like my plant murdered by my cats... and my soul because of the plant murder.

[mortal nexus]

empty head on psyker

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Slenderman ready to ride a horse

[strong gulch]

also them digging into the soil I just swet up to pee and poo in the pile

[marble crater]

What I learned from that maelstrom is that I can carry better with EK than Gunker I need slightly better teammates to do my thing on Gunker

[marble crater]

Cats are assholes

[strong gulch]

SAME

[strong gulch]

idk if it's still a thing, but have you done the FGS bleed thing?

[marble crater]

No, I'm not a zealot

Also I don't know what that is

[strong gulch]

Yeah it still works.

You have puncture on bistol. Do FGS special and switch to bistol quickly. Bleed is applied to the warp arc.

It's cheesy

[robust drum]

what happens when you reach 100% with psyker attack

[zinc phoenix]

I didn’t do it because 🧀 but I did like bistol with fgs

[marble crater]

But I like my wrists

[strong gulch]

100% peril is ok.

Going over 100% peril exopods you.

There is an SG (scriers gaze) mode node that let's you cast while at 100% peril called WU (warp unbound).

[marble crater]

Reaching 100% doesn't do anything, doing something that gives you more peril after you are at 100% or sometimes 97% will make you go BOOM though

[jovial juniper]

If you hit 100 screen goes bwooo
If you go past 100 then you go pop

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hyppy-gif-9091438043443803258

[zinc phoenix]

I member when we had to be careful because 100 = boom

Now there is training wheels

[marble crater]

I go to 100 for the sound effects

[zinc phoenix]

Bring back no warning boom

[patent mango]

if you go past 100 you level up

[rare bough]

Anyone else praying for a Psyker rework?

[patent mango]

zealot desperately needs a rework first

[strong gulch]

97% bug is still around

[marble crater]

Too fast, controller players could never

[rare bough]

Is Ogryn the first rework?

I sure hope there's more coming

[zinc phoenix]

Not really, we are in a very good place as a class

There are multiple interesting builds

Lots of different weapons

[marble crater]

No, there were a few already, but ogryn is the biggest

[zinc phoenix]

Ogryn flat out did not work as a class concept before

“Only do heavy, no lights”

[jovial juniper]

Nah

Siker

Well if you don't count talent tree introductions and stuff like that

[wooden sand]

Turns out every class was the first rework

[jovial juniper]

[marble crater]

Seriously, give me the weapon swap mods, I'm stuck in animations sometimes, don't get me started on trying to switch weapons while I am using inferno channel attack

[zinc phoenix]

Q key

Well except sometimes it swaps twice and I’m trying to block with a gun

[wooden sand]

Skill issue

[marble crater]

Tried finding that, don't have it

[jovial juniper]

I want more guns to have funny Warp though

[patent mango]

zealot is still pre patch 13

[jovial juniper]

That's for sure

[strong gulch]

I bet it'a way worse on controller, but there's a lot of times my character won't switch.

[elder glade]

Funny warp guns

[strong harbor]

vboidstrike perks/blessings?

[zinc phoenix]

you must commit sudoku in shame for the grievous loss of your Q key

[strong gulch]

Why recon no have warp push but laspistol do???

[patent mango]

fatshar forgo

[zinc phoenix]

Because laspistol used to be incredibly garbo so they gave psyker a thing

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/bTmAh.gif

[jovial juniper]

Surge + Nexus

[strong harbor]

ty

[zinc phoenix]

Tbh I would rather have flashlight on laspistol

[marble crater]

Really does suck sometimes, it is what it is at least the deadzone fix actually made me aim better

[zinc phoenix]

The number of times I have used gun shove intentionally is negative one morbillion

[marble crater]

Use the fire as a light source, that's how I use EK and VB in lights out missions

The explosion radius is a great flashlight

[strong gulch]

I've used push on guns before, I have never used the flashlight.

Psyker privilege

[zinc phoenix]

I yeet out fgs slash to see

[zinc phoenix]

Gunker pain 😂

[strong gulch]

assail

FGS

no flashlight needed

[zinc phoenix]

Flashlight on laspistol 🙏

[marble crater]

I have, then "IT'S A DAEMONHOST" and never turned it on again

[jovial juniper]

hears DH
Turns off flashlight
Turns on flashlight
Turns off flashlight

https://tenor.com/view/just-to-be-certain-koby-morgan-davies-one-piece-in-order-to-be-sure-gif-16762541837160544124

[marble crater]

Always nice when everyone turns it off right away when hearing it, that's when you know you are not playing with totally new people

[bitter hare]

Who needs to avoid the daemon host when you can just harrass it and hold block 🙏

[marble crater]

The amount of times I have triggered one because of funny soulblaze nonsense is too high, probably 5 times in the last week?

[bitter hare]

Try accidentally triggering one just by using assail trust

[marble crater]

I will try tomorrow

[strong gulch]

Me realizing too late. Angy bees on their way to the DH

[marble crater]

Turn around, if you can't see it, it can't see you and without line of sight it can't attack you

[strong gulch]

the "too late" part is the important part

[marble crater]

smh

Better get to blocking then

[strong gulch]

KD and +3 stam. I'm ready

[bitter hare]

peril block skill +4 stam + shriek

[marble crater]

And then you still die because your team has given up on you and doesn't attack

[strong gulch]

+4 stam cruio when

[marble crater]

The 440 ones will be bugged and only be +3

[strong gulch]

400 +3 stams bugged to be +4

[marble crater]

[analog agate]

One more havoc next week then Dobby’s free!

[marble crater]

Free how?

[strong gulch]

gets a sock

[marble crater]

A new cosmetic? Still need the old havoc cosmetics

Maybe I should get on that before really nobody plays it anymore

[strong gulch]

idk about new cosmetic

I forget what cosmetics havoc gives you. I know there's black pants at 25. idk what else

[marble crater]

Sock to keep the staves hidden from the heretics

Black top and helmet

Recolor of the Hestia penance stuff

[strong gulch]

[marble crater]

Would make for a nice gunker outfit

[analog agate]

The 20 week insignia

[strong gulch]

Oh i forgot about that

[marble crater]

Same

Well, not forgot, just didn't do it

[strong gulch]

I made myself cringe. I forgot what I named the voice channels.

[marble crater]

Unhinged behavior

[strong gulch]

lmao

[marble crater]

letters don't even make a noise

[opaque barn]

hey. new. whats the dump stat if any on a force staff?

[earnest sand]

Warp res mainly voidstrike I believe is the only one for blast radius

[strong gulch]

Warp resistance is the dump on force weapons; melee and ranged.

The only exception is VS (voidstrike) which dumps blast radius.

[marble crater]

Our lives could be so much easier if voidstrike also dumped resistance, we could save so much time when explaining it to new psykers

[strong gulch]

This meta, if you want a personal dump then that's for you.

lol
"personal dump"

[earnest sand]

I could never get the feel of void strike personally.

[lone ravine]

so true, im going to start dumping damage

[marble crater]

Dump damage on force swords to make blazing spirit an option

[strong gulch]

knife coded

[earnest sand]

True I got I think a few 1% damage roles

[strong gulch]

also fire illisi coded lmao

[lone ravine]

0% dmg fire illisi

catch me with that 99% soulblaze dmg to physical dmg dealt

[earnest sand]

Rather them allow warpslice to proc blazing spirit on fgs but I can dream

[marble crater]

I wish soulblaze on melee was good

[earnest sand]

I tried diff variations on melee all felt like dookie.

[marble crater]

Because they are

[earnest sand]

I just wanna burn the world! Why can't they allow psyker melee skills like sienna in vt2 😂

[lone ravine]

i wish FGS special didnt need charged

let me spam wall piercing attacks permanetly!!!

stop ruining my fun!!!

[earnest sand]

Would be nice it there was a "skip" like maybe half charge at cost of 100% peril would be interesting

[lone ravine]

hold special to power it over time but generate peril like scriers

[earnest sand]

Like a reverse quell

Can kinda spam it if you run like bistol with that bleed on hit and swap to it after fgs spec but kinda meh

[lone ravine]

i run fgs on basically everything

its a cool weapon

[earnest sand]

Same I really enjoy it.

[lone ravine]

the niche of getting dogs off teammates through walls is nice

along side just how good it feels to use :)

[earnest sand]

Yeah both marks being smooth and blessings is nice can do diff stuff instead of some other weapons

Now they just need to add a lil force knife 😈

[patent mango]

fgs bleed so goofy

[lusty ferry]

tips for surviving 30s havoc as psyker? i feel pox just swarm and box in and im done.

[patent mango]

push a lot

[lusty ferry]

i typically play brainburst, bubble, and change up staves.

[analog agate]

If teammates are good. Use inferno. If teammates are bad, use VB. If teammates really are bad and can’t deal with bosses. You are fucked

[lusty ferry]

i more use electro staff, and void strike. and inferno

but what is the most soloable build and crowd control. cuz i feell inferno has no elite crowd control.

[patent mango]

doesnt inferno m1 stagger elites

[analog agate]

There is no soloable psyker build for high havoc. Do you mean one you can clutch with? Imo that is VB

[empty hemlock]

For havoc I like bolt pistol for my ranged slot, you can very reliably smite stagger and ping even groups of crushers

[analog agate]

Yeah, inferno can stagger pretty well

[patent mango]

i've not played staffker for so long im starting to forget the staves a bit

fgs brainrot

[empty hemlock]

I used to main staves but after switching builds to more melee focus I love it too much

[analog agate]

EK staff can be fine. I would only use it with VS even on havoc. And either be with a bubble psyker or choir boy

[empty hemlock]

I love deflector to just give gunners the middle finger as I slowly walk up to them menacingly.

[analog agate]

Voidstrike just isn’t viable in high havoc

[empty hemlock]

Yea I really tend to see Voidstrike fall off even on Aurics

[patent mango]

cereal strike

[lusty ferry]

@analog agate why?

not enough cc or dps?

[analog agate]

Both

Higher hit mass means less cleave. And its dps is just less than everything else cause it doesn’t have infinite cleave (like inferno/VB) and EK (much better single target dps)

[deft stump]

Needs more cleave to be good. At least on plasma tier.

[patent mango]

let voidstrike ricochet it'd be hilarious

[deft stump]

This is starting to sound like a survivor game nonsense. Bolt doubles on hit that bounces around.

[long wharf]

void should get a blessing that doubles cleave and blast radius on crits

I think void's base cleave is 6 or 7

doubling that puts it in the realm of plasma primary fire

void secondary should also gain cleave based on charge amount

there are easy ways to make void viable

[patent mango]

let me overcharge voidstrike staff to like 200%

then thats a truth nuke

[deft stump]

Plasma is 50.

[long wharf]

it already hits really hard

[deft stump]

Excuse me.

[proper osprey]

Buff ek

[long wharf]

I thought plasma was cleave of 12

[patent mango]

not truth nuke hard

[long wharf]

which is 4 crushers

[proper osprey]

Narp

50

[long wharf]

alright

[deft stump]

Want me to summon Path to ask?

[long wharf]

I believe you

if I didn't, I could always go look at the Lua myself

[deft stump]

Is why, VS needs to be at Plasma lvls to be good.

[long wharf]

either way, void's limitation is entirely cleave-related

[deft stump]

And it needs to be charged even more than plasma.

Which increases cleave on plasma, I think.

[long wharf]

giving void secondary charge-based cleave up to 50 would work well

[deft stump]

That one need to ask Path.

I know the quick primary shot cleave is 50.

[long wharf]

but void projectile automatically detonates on carapace

[prime elk]

plasma needs a rework

[long wharf]

I think plasma is fine

other things need to be brought up in order to make more viable in havoc/auric dams

[proper osprey]

The two staffs that probably need tuning are vs and ek

[long wharf]

EK absolutely needs reworked

[proper osprey]

Other 2 are fine

[fathom adder]

Charged plasma shot should be an AOE because there's not much point to it right now

[prime elk]

really? i think EK's good

how would you rework it?

[long wharf]

or bring back the OG behavior using current damage numbers

and let it do full damage on all hit targets

[proper osprey]

I mean it is but i wish it hit 5 enemies instead of 2

[deft stump]

And let the +1 smyker thing work again.

[prime elk]

eh that's kinda the whole point of the staff

[deft stump]

For funnies.

[proper osprey]

Tbh ek and scries go crazy

[prime elk]

hits few targets, but is fast

[long wharf]

yes please

[prime elk]

and has high single target dps

[long wharf]

only the first target hit takes full damage, which is BS

[prime elk]

that's fair

[deft stump]

Is a talent node tax if you wanna meme anyway, so don't see an issue.

[proper osprey]

For stuff like bosses I’d want it to just be single and bulwarks 2 but hoard 5

[prime elk]

but i wouldn't mind adding a blessing that allows it to hit multiple enemies, though only for CC

[long wharf]

surge shouldn't require a blessing to hit multiple targets

it was the whole point of the staff to begin with

I'd honestly prefer the OG surge back and smite ability reworked entirely

[prime elk]

the whole point of the current staff is that it has good single target dps, rapid reaction times at the expense of horde damage

which makes it the most fun staff to use for me

[long wharf]

I wouldn't qualify the single target damage as good

decent

[prime elk]

it's def good

and it's not like psyker is lacking in other horde clear options

[long wharf]

it's not nearly good enough to justify taking into havocs

[prime elk]

idc about havocs, nor is the game balanced around havocs

[long wharf]

it wouldn't be so bad if havocs didn't change your ammo counts

among other things

[obtuse walrus]

i make a da chicken tikka masala!!! 🗣️ 🔥

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/sugi-real-real-japan-nani-so-what-gif-6478685537124400361

[blissful solar]

riaruriaru japan

[analog agate]

I don’t understand this viewpoint. It has autoaim and 1 shots or 2 shots all specials/gunners. I am 95% doing a better job being a vet than actual vets. EK is the strongest staff in non havoc. And I think that even outside of my animation canceling

[weary idol]

also retains a cancel tech

because you can qq to have higher dps with right click :)

as in swap off swap back not quell cancel that's dead and it better stay that way

[fast prawn]

how do you get the twitch drop in the game?

[strong gulch]

You gotta link your accounts. https://accounts.atoma.cloud/twitch-drops

[fast prawn]

i did it just took a min to load

IT WASN'T IMMEDIATE I WAS CURSING THE EMPRAH

[strong gulch]

Gotcha. It'd have a mad about it tbh.

[buoyant maple]

nah no way

[deft stump]

Pifft. So plasma needs a nerf.

[remote nacelle]

What does it mean when brains in peril

Like my skull is 100 and I start seeing shit?

[strong gulch]

If you cast again you'll explode

[remote nacelle]

My brain can’t explode without my permission

[strong gulch]

Outside of bugs and lag, ye

[remote nacelle]

I’m liking void blast staff

But I need the flamer

[strong gulch]

Put blazing spirit and nexus on it.
#psyker-class message

[peak grotto]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e9f9c4f-e711-43cd-8023-213ec95a7264/melee-psyker-33?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

How is this melee build looking to yall?

Things I should swap or tweak?

[remote nacelle]

Chaos spawn clapped me and my team

What dump stat on void staff

[proper osprey]

Which one?

[remote nacelle]

Voidblast force

[verbal thistle]

warp res

[proper osprey]

Warp res

Warp res for all

[verbal thistle]

but voidstrike

[strong gulch]

There's voidblast and voidstrike.

All force weapons dump warp resist except voidSTRIKE. Voidstrike dumps blast radius.

[remote nacelle]

This one

Void blast

80% warp resist

Lmao

[strong gulch]

WE doesn't give enough toughness gen to warent picking. EE can basically replace ghost on ur gun. Drop BM. Grab soulstealer and PC.

[remote nacelle]

Is the staff I have good or re roll?

Also I’m liking combat blade for whatever reason

[strong gulch]

reroll if you have the ordos.

You want ro dump WR on that staff

[remote nacelle]

I’m sitting on a crap ton

[strong gulch]

Knife is good. Even as just a mobility tool. It also covers boss and single target.

[remote nacelle]

60% WR?

[strong gulch]

yes

[remote nacelle]

64%

lol

Ayo

What perk do I want on it?

[analog agate]

Flak/crit chance

[remote nacelle]

Uh ranged crit strike chance right?

Found it

We good

[analog agate]

Yes

[peak grotto]

Why Soulstealer? I'm typically only getting warp kills on the special sweep

[strong gulch]

That's warp damage and also assail

[remote nacelle]

First time I get lucky on a roll that doesn’t cost me half my ordo on my other character 😭

[strong gulch]

That build post I sent has info on your to build it.

The main flavor is flak + crit chance and nexus + blazing spirit.

edit: accidentally wrote flurry

[peak grotto]

How am I even routing to Assail if I'm taking PC?

[analog agate]

Potato means nexus and blaze

[strong gulch]

1 point left for whatever

[peak grotto]

Damn, not enough for Anticipation. It's really helping out on the FGS.

[strong gulch]

I accidentally wrote flurry instead of blazing spirit.

VB, specifically fire VB is crit + flak and nexus + blazing spirit

[prime elk]

anticipation is a bit of a point hog and not worth it imo

you can also drop PC

PC isn't necessary

on a FGS build

[analog agate]

I don’t run warp stealer either haha. I haven’t had a problem keeping toughness up on melee build

It is usually recommended though

[strong gulch]

With the PC changes I wouldn't drop it.

I had higher SB damage than regular fire from infernus.

But drop if you want

[prime elk]

what's the change?

[strong gulch]

PC now procs with SB DoT kills

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/melee-psyker-27?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button my updated melee psyker

[prime elk]

oh right. that's exactly what the game needed, a SB buff lol.

[proper osprey]

@strong gulch you probably know what bp does warp rider hit?

[prime elk]

i don't think it really makes a difference if you're using a FGS build tho

[proper osprey]

Yeah i agree

[analog agate]

Warp expenditure to PC and perfect build. Cause it is my build lmao.

Edit: Wait, you aren’t using warp rider. Wtf. Take back my comment

[strong gulch]

Also, if you don't want soulstealer, drop it. It's a comfy node. I mainly added it since I rec not taking WE.

[strong gulch]

I don't.

[proper osprey]

I feel like I can only use pc with staffs

It is a really good node

[restive slate]

I discovered the technique of throwing Assail Shards between melee swings, the resulting horde clear is amazing

[proper osprey]

Weaving

You can do it with smite too

[analog agate]

But if you are fast enough assail is superior to smite

Assail does stagger just as well

I think… Maybe not on maulers?

I haven’t looked at it in a bit

[strong gulch]

Please take warp rider

[proper osprey]

What bp does it hit?

[proper osprey]

[proper osprey]

WE?

Nvm it just clicked

[restive slate]

Fr? I imagine it's mostly for the mass stagger

If smite

[proper osprey]

Kinda

[left hare]

hi, how good is wildfire

[proper osprey]

You’re not doing it’s charged version

[left hare]

i dont understand the specifics of this one

how do i soul blaze em

[restive slate]

Ngl I've never used the primary smite fire

[proper osprey]

I can’t tell a difference with or without it when running inferno

[restive slate]

Isn't there also a delay for Primary Smite?

[analog agate]

https://youtu.be/OT1xC1bzDJs?si=5XKd1FfsGsBePEsw

[proper osprey]

Yup I believe so

[analog agate]

The “ethical” use

[left hare]

i do see some use of it

i just dont know if its a must have

[proper osprey]

I don’t think it is

I just take psy aura

[peak grotto]

Now that I've settled my talents, how are weapons looking?

[analog agate]

It’s good if you can give up KD for it

[left hare]

wtf aint no way

I need KD

[analog agate]

🤷‍♂️

[left hare]

why do i need to give up KD?

[prime elk]

KD is a crutch

[proper osprey]

Laspistol I’d do inferus and dumdum

[analog agate]

It depends on your build. That is the talent that a lot of us gave up to take flayer (we kept wildfire already)

[strong gulch]

It's good on staff builds

[proper osprey]

Fgs I’d do unstable power instead of wrath

[peak grotto]

This is Mk X, the Mk II will give me an RSI from clicking too much

[prime elk]

are you on PC? get the full auto mod

mk X is kinda ass

[proper osprey]

This

[strong gulch]

I take wildfire and KD

I won't give KD up.

[proper osprey]

Or try the electro Ken staff

[strong gulch]

It's my comfort pick

[left hare]

i cannot give KD up, that shit clutches so much

[brazen rampart]

Maniac doesn't change breakpoints on your sword, don't need crit chance or either of those blessings on laspistol. Change maniac on your sword to unyielding, then crit chance to maniac or unarmored for your pistol, and change your pistol blessings to dumdum infernus, imo.

[proper osprey]

I weend myself off kd

I only run it with melee psyker

[left hare]

btw fgs with purgatus staff do i wanna go disrupt still

[brazen rampart]

Also change your model of pistol to mk2.

[brazen rampart]

No.

[left hare]

i guess warp siphon

[proper osprey]

The fgs already clears

[brazen rampart]

The only staff that wants dd is voidstrike, otherwise go warp charges or ep.

[strong gulch]

infernus + dumdum

unyielding if you want bigger boss dps

for gun

[left hare]

do i need solidity?

[brazen rampart]

Depends, do you have crack of bone?

[proper osprey]

If you’re doing havoc take wrath tbh

[strong gulch]

Need? No. It's a nice QOL tho. Less time quelling so you can cast more

[left hare]

i actually dunno if i wanna take crack of bone with fgs cos i have trouble building my peril

[proper osprey]

If you’re doing melee psyker no

[strong gulch]

Why are solidity and by crack of bone together??

Solidity is for heavy warp stuff

So staff and blitz

[proper osprey]

You don’t really need warp rider either

[fathom adder]

Laspistol really needs Dumdum, the other blessings can be Infernus (more damage) or Desperado (more crits for Empathic Evasion etc.)

[strong gulch]

Warp rider is an always pick

[brazen rampart]

I have trouble keeping my peril up lol.

Crack of bone does its job a little too well.

[left hare]

yeah i do have trouble with keeping peril up for sure

its why i kinda dont wanna run it

i'm doing fgs purgatus for a super frontline manager psyker with bubble for havoc

[strong gulch]

only crak of bone is you do SG

[proper osprey]

With staffs sure melee I’m 80% sure it doesn’t hit any break points it’s just more boss dsp

[left hare]

which staffs are you talking about when we're talking about staffs here?

(im dumb so i must ask)

[proper osprey]

And psyker dd fgs poke with 30 scriers is already silly

[analog agate]

A lot of stuff doesn’t hit breakpoints. You are giving up a lot of free damage for over toughness

[strong gulch]

it's on all sources of damage on all targets

[proper osprey]

True

I do love my toughness

[analog agate]

Get rid of warp expenditure and endurance and get warp rider

Or etheral shards

[proper osprey]

My freaking toughness

[analog agate]

Warp expenditure gives poor toughness

[proper osprey]

I’ve been waiting to experience with and without endurance

[peak grotto]

I feel like a crazy person, what is Solidity? I can't find it anywhere

[proper osprey]

True

[left hare]

fgs purgatus setup (because i really wanna use purgatus and fgs together)

[proper osprey]

It’s only nice for chip damage

[analog agate]

Warp siphon (left) side

[peak grotto]

Oh there it is, thank you

[proper osprey]

What the scallop

[left hare]

idk what im doing

its why im askin

[prime elk]

why puppet master? take solidity

[proper osprey]

Looks like a purg build

[left hare]

ok solidity

[analog agate]

Souldrinker also sucks

[left hare]

whats soul drinker

[analog agate]

Shoddy toughness regen cause of server shenanigans and crit chance doesn’t reset on kill (why?)

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5cc452-6030-42a4-afe1-2b54e0c4337c/terrible-pysker-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button keep in mind this is my own personal build feel free to edit it how you see fit

[proper osprey]

I still hate that’s on the right side

[strong gulch]

Souldrinker is better for staff build but is too expensive to get to, can't refresh the crit chance buff, and the toughness gen is prone to server lag issues.

[left hare]

i didnt take soul drinker so

[strong gulch]

soulstealer is easy to get to

[analog agate]

Nm. I thought you took souldrinker

It is warp splitting on closer look

[wind spruce]

Toughness gen prone to server lag issues?!?

[remote nacelle]

I gotta manage my skull lol I keep forgetting I’m not playing a class I can keep holding down the fire button

[analog agate]

On a purg build though?

[left hare]

its for my fgs

except this shit cant build peril

Feel so scuff

[analog agate]

Why would you need to use fgs for horde clear with inferno staff

[left hare]

Cos i really like it when i schwing

But sometimes my havoc teams just wipe due to giga cara or giga boss spam

[proper osprey]

@left hare if you’re going for purg do the build I sent it looks like what you’re trying to do

[analog agate]

You do you. But that I would be annoyed playing with you on high havoc

[left hare]

Yeah yeah boring bubble purgatus spam

i've done this so many times i wanna die

[peak grotto]

Alright guess I gotta repatch my mod manager so I can get that full auto mod

[proper osprey]

You don’t need bubble for havoc

[left hare]

i pub havoc

i need it

[remote nacelle]

Which one slaps harder?

[proper osprey]

The only time you needed bubble for havoc was cranial corruption

[analog agate]

Depends if you have choir boy. Bubble is for bosses

[remote nacelle]

Cause I plan to play on havok

[left hare]

when the main reason the team wipes is 4 bosses

[proper osprey]

Choir boy

[left hare]

i want bubble

[analog agate]

I demean zealot too much. I am sorry

[proper osprey]

Gonna start calling every book zealot that

I actually main zealot and psyker

[left hare]

ogryn main

[strong gulch]

Maybe I am miss remembering. I know there is a server related issue that causes it to act inconsistently.

[remote nacelle]

Jokes on you I main zealot and orgyn and now space wizard

[left hare]

but i like psyker cos of the fgs

[strong gulch]

The fire one.

[left hare]

and nothing else

[proper osprey]

Here

[left hare]

the fgs is drugs

[remote nacelle]

The picture on the left?

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/melee-psyker-27?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[left hare]

i tried that but in havoc pubs u need the bubble

[proper osprey]

I take survivability over damage

[left hare]

I dont have a team to play with

[peak grotto]

FGS is incredibly fun but I couldn't possibly pair it with fire staff, eugh

[wind spruce]

@analog agate mentioned it too? I know there's server weirdness with the crit buff part but idk about the toughness regen. Just curious!

[analog agate]

Someone was testing it (Deadvoid?) and found that while it works in meatgrinder it isn’t as reliable in actual gameplay

[strong gulch]

Oh my bad. The left one with warp charges technically would.

But if you are shrieking before you get 6 warp charges, then warp battery (the last node) won't do anything.

[strong gulch]

This is what I remember.

[analog agate]

Yeah, see my above note. I will tag @nocturne dust cause he may find the video link showing it not always working

[left hare]

what staff do u pair fgs with then

[strong gulch]

Might have to ask Deadvoid to get more info.

[strong gulch]

Any. FGS is good at everything

[proper osprey]

Void strike or electro ken

Mainly a gun

[analog agate]

I pair fgs with EK

[proper osprey]

Yeah ek is good

[analog agate]

And then gun psyker

[proper osprey]

Ek spam warp unbound is fun

[remote nacelle]

im out of mana but not out of options

[proper osprey]

No I’m not talking about the macro

[remote nacelle]

im having fun blasting elites with void blast just i gain peril fast lol

[strong gulch]

I also like FGS with VS or guns.

[left hare]

ek or vs for boss dmg

[strong gulch]

EK but it's not a lot

Melee would be better but EK is steady and safe

[analog agate]

It is why I personally run inner tranq. Here is my VB build

[strong gulch]

Need ER. Empyric Resolve. It's a blue node on the path to warp siphon

[remote nacelle]

Rn my psyker is level 10?

Slowly getting there

[analog agate]

Oof

[strong gulch]

OH

[analog agate]

Well, yeah that would be it hahahahaha

[remote nacelle]

Like bulwark I love using the AOE everyone else just blasting

[strong gulch]

If ur 10 then go assail.

VB with no peril mitigation is hard to play

But if you want to use VB keep going.

You could get away with dumping damage so you can max WR until you can get ER. Just make sure you have blazing spirit.

That will help a bit.

[left hare]

ok so i want to use fgs no matter what idm using a gun or staff which 1 would i go down for this section

i'm not using scriers

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

Literally Irosk

[left hare]

is heavy laspistol a special/boss killer?

[nocturne dust]

Not sure that anyone has checked if the toughness acts different from gaining the crit buff

but seeing as they're connected to the same activation, probably not

[nocturne dust]

One of the best at boss killing

if you can hit weakspots

[left hare]

i'm very good at that one

which capstone to use

[nocturne dust]

Standard Gunker, so DD

[left hare]

must i run scriers

or is it just a crits make it do more situation

[nocturne dust]

Well, you must do nothing

You're free to run what you want

and you can succeed always

It will be vastly easier and more of a complete build with Scrier's

or you could just take vent and use it because it's OP

[analog agate]

@wind spruce turns out I was referencing you and misremembering which mechanic didn’t work.

My bad…

[nocturne dust]

I mean, testing toughness from Souldrinker would probably be good to do

[wind spruce]

It possibly operates the same but who knows

[left hare]

heavy las which 1 to use

[wind spruce]

I do know it works at infinite range from other psykers soulblaze from atlas and I testing it

[nocturne dust]

Yes, same as In Fire Reborn

Syllo said In Fire Reborn and Souldrinker have the exact same activation trigger in the code, so you would expect them to act the same. Someone really involved could test In Fire Reborn proc chances from murdering enemies with soulblaze using something else to figure out if it was also affected by the issue, buuuuuuuuut that's a lot of work

[wind spruce]

Wayyyy too much effort

[fathom adder]

Heavy Laspistol? Mk2

[wind spruce]

Yeah definitely the fast firing one and use it w/infernus

[left hare]

ok force great sword with heavy las

this build has no peril gen except brain burst lol

[deft stump]

Stroke beeg sword?

[left hare]

unless i pre cleave with fgs

ye

stroke the sword acquire power and take no peril dump nodes

[deft stump]

Better on the Illisi but yeah.

[left hare]

surety of arms

if i need peril how good is this 1

lmao

[left hare]

watching the stock market crash as i stroke my sword

[strong gulch]

Left side keystone is mostly for staves.

Also yeah. Laspistol one psyker's higher bod DPS options. Varks 5 does more tho.

[left hare]

does laspistol chew through ammo like vraks tho

[plucky flax]

Yeah.

If you want more ammo efficient gun use the recon lasgun instead.

[left hare]

the recon las gun is the more efficient gun here?

[plucky flax]

Yes or bistol.

Recon lasgun mk12

[left hare]

im boggled that the recon is more efficient than the pistol

[plucky flax]

It has a lot of ammo per mag and ammo reserve.

[left hare]

dumdum infernus mag dump the weakspot

[strong gulch]

Yeah. A lot of people end up going for recon because of ammo and it's easier to aim.

[left hare]

how much can infernus stack

if i wanna just light em on fire then punch him

i meant duration

3 crits then how long does it last

[deft stump]

You can test in psykhanium.

Count the ticks.

[prime elk]

was it 16 stacks?

[left hare]

nerfed to 12 i believe in recent patch?

Nvm i'm thinking of pbb for ogryn

[plucky flax]

12

[strong gulch]

Regular burn from infernus cap is 12. I think stacks last like 4s before they begin to decay.

[fathom adder]

Plus the mk12 recon has a very high rate of fire so it procs on-hit and on-crit effects so frequently its basically constant

[strong gulch]

ye

[prime elk]

was it always 12?

or was that a recent change?

[idle valve]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9e9fc60b-c48b-4c9e-80d0-f42d36feb43d

[prime elk]

oh ok infenus was always 12 i think

[idle valve]

any tips for this loadout? trying to get into psyker some more to help out in havoc

at least with an alternate way of support instead of always brute forcing with ogryn

[nocturne dust]

see pins

[strong gulch]

Psyker typically take inferno or voidblast with bubble.

on havoc

[left hare]

bubble, fire staff

take max cdr

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you want others to do the work

Take Trauma

because you'll be more supportive staggering everything

[left hare]

purgatus is a, no matter how long the team takes to fight the front i'll kill them all

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus is not support, it is damage

[left hare]

trauma is a i'll stun them so my team can kill em

[nocturne dust]

I mean Trauma still does damage

but if your team has heads on their shoulders, they'll end up killing a significant chunk themselves

[left hare]

as long as ur team has an ogryn, u can just leave the killin to em

just support him

[nocturne dust]

Eeeehhhh

Ogryn does not do killing the best, that's still psyker

[left hare]

or u know, purgatus and do it urself

[prime elk]

ogryn's got that boss dps

[nocturne dust]

Only on pickaxe/gunlugger

[prime elk]

well... yeah

[nocturne dust]

cleaver ogryn is pretty popular rn

[idle valve]

damn i hate fire staff 😔

[left hare]

i also hate fire staff

cos the playstyle is legit boring

[nocturne dust]

I love fire staff

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[idle valve]

just gave it a visit. didn't see bubble, but it did give cool insight for voidstrike

[strong gulch]

Then do VB

[left hare]

vb does sound fresh to me

[prime elk]

i don't vibe with cleaver ngl

[left hare]

cos i have never had a run without a purgatus yet

can i do vb fgs build?

[idle valve]

what's vb again?

[left hare]

blast

[prime elk]

truama

/voidblast

[idle valve]

ah right

[strong gulch]

ye

[idle valve]

i only remember it as trauma. i don't remember why

[left hare]

i cant rmbr their old names anymore except purgatus lol

[strong gulch]

Because that's what it used to be called

[idle valve]

in another world vb means verdant brink to me

[strong gulch]

but then the great renaming happened

[idle valve]

maybe it will feel more comfortable if i ran trauma staff

[strong gulch]

could be

go for it

[left hare]

whats the havoc vb build

[idle valve]

i liked electro for stunning muties and having a nice answer for elite enemies, although a tad bit slow.
got a question: would trauma and smite overlap each other in terms of purpose?

[strong gulch]

too much overlap

[left hare]

smite into havoc?

[strong gulch]

take BB with KF

[left hare]

i rarely see smitekers in havoc

i actually have no clue why

[nocturne dust]

You can switch bubble into the inferno/vb builds without issue

[idle valve]

yeah

[prime elk]

cuz smite bad

[nocturne dust]

I don't vibe with pickaxe

[idle valve]

it's a bit of a tragedy when it comes to i think it's called final toll, so i switch off to brain blast lol, but the cc sounds okay

was gonna make up for me making a switch from trauma to electro a long while ago

[idle valve]

haven't seen much psykers in havoc at all 😔

[nocturne dust]

also

here's a question for the number heads

is Blaze Away multiplicative with Scrier's

[prime elk]

smh

[idle valve]

same

[prime elk]

tbf i didn't vibe with pickaxe until after the ogryn tree rework

[idle valve]

i prefer blunt and slow weapons over sharp and agile stuff

was a pain in the butt but i really enjoyed branx's slow but powerful horde clear before the ogryn rework

[strong gulch]

VB havoc is basically just switching shriek to bubble.

Like void said.

You might need a little bit of tweeking. If you find the peril management a little to much, you can drop wildfire for BM (battle mediation) or Inner tranq.

I don't like the lack of consistency with ether, but BM can save you from exploding if it procs at the right time.

[prime elk]

what about blunt and agile stuff

[nocturne dust]

also is anyone else getting broken lmb animations on Inferno when spamming lmb?

[idle valve]

alright i'll try out good ole blast and givin' up smite to bb
farewell my force greatsword. time to revisit my old deimos sword

[idle valve]

ehhh

[strong gulch]

I haven't played it today. So no clue

[nocturne dust]

It's been happening for a while in Mortis

[prime elk]

join the cult of the brunt basher

[idle valve]

i would much prefer wielding a sledgehammer, but if i gotta use a wrench or a club i will if i gotta
i don't really care for the bully clubs, but if i ever had to use it for sum reason, would probably use mk1.
i don't like mk3 being kinda braindead

i'm usually a tank ogryn so shield is pretty much my beautiful answer and personification

[strong gulch]

If you are confident and comfortable with FGS, then keep it. DS4 is better at crushers, but FGS does deak well with them.

[prime elk]

i don't like mk3 being kinda braindead

that's the point

you press W and spam light attacks and win the game

[nocturne dust]

I love braindead

[idle valve]

yeah that ain't it for me 😂

[prime elk]

it's fun to switch it up every once in a while

sometimes i just don't want to bother with weapon combos

[idle valve]

the complexity of boro pick has been getting to me though

[prime elk]

it's not too bad

i usually just open with push attack, heavy, then lights for horde clear

same as branx

and then single target is just special, heavy, light

[idle valve]

oh interesting. i thought i would need a more defined single target weapon with trauma

[strong gulch]

FGS is good at everything.

[left hare]

borovian is my favorite

versatile god of death

its why fgs is my favorite too

versatile god of death

[strong gulch]

But if you want to max, then you would take deimos or DS4.

[idle valve]

thx for the tips

[strong gulch]

DS for more movement and faster stabs. Deimos for defensive utility.

Both have better movement than FGS

But I'd rather take something I know than something I'm not familiar with into harder content.

Don't know your history with weapons

[left hare]

does void strike go disrupt destiny

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[strong gulch]

Ye

VS goes DD

VB goes WC

[left hare]

do i have to go empyric resolve

[strong gulch]

WC = warp charge

[strong gulch]

If you go SG, I recommend it.

If you're doing shriek, don't have to

[left hare]

i c

i'm doing bubble lol

perhaps i can do crack of bone disrupt destiny fgs vs?

[strong gulch]

Getting to ER on a build that wants DD is a bit tough. VS doesn't gen the most peril, so you should be ok with ER.

Crack of bone is mostly for SG

[left hare]

whats sg?

oh i c

nvm

[nocturne dust]

so I think I like SG + assail + Inferno now