psyker-class

[jovial juniper]

Never special

[nocturne dust]

Not better than Deimos imo

[upbeat kestrel]

Everyone has theyre own ,,the best,,

For me deimos is fucking worst

[nocturne dust]

Nonsense, everyone agrees FGS is the best

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1321371717599367198/Greatsword_Elmo.gif

[upbeat kestrel]

I mean as in in weapon families

[nocturne dust]

beeg sword beeg fun

[nocturne dust]

[upbeat kestrel]

For me the best caxe is antax but most people say the best is rashad

[nocturne dust]

I dunno how you can think that when Illisi is still the way that it is

[left hare]

hows force gs in havocs

[nocturne dust]

3rd best psyker build

[upbeat kestrel]

I mean theyre own ,,the best,, between all 3 small force swords

[nocturne dust]

Because infinite cleave

[left hare]

whats the first 2?

[nocturne dust]

Inferno, Trauma

The classics

[left hare]

i'm ngl both of em are kinda the same

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[upbeat kestrel]

Moveset does not cooperate with me

[nocturne dust]

but technically two builds

[left hare]

wheres gunker

[nocturne dust]

Is literally just heavies for elites and lights for horde

you can also get away with light stabbing some specials

[left hare]

i do wanna try out the force gs, anyone got a build

[upbeat kestrel]

I prefer illisi

[nocturne dust]

as said, FGS is 3rd best

[deft stump]

Can someone tell them meleeker is gunker?

[nocturne dust]

if you want actual gun....

I mean you can do it

and it works

but uh

[deft stump]

Ammo

[nocturne dust]

you are just worse vet

[left hare]

u mean tacaxe + gun

[nocturne dust]

Gunker without FGS fairs poorly in Havoc. Worse than any staff.

[upbeat kestrel]

I will be open here. I ran around with chainsword on psyker for a time

[left hare]

any fgs builds i can copy

[nocturne dust]

I mean, there was a time when chainsword was best horde clear

[left hare]

also yeah this camera manipulation part is kinda fun

[left hare]

which fgs to use

[nocturne dust]

That's a gunker build alright

Swap to bubble if you need

drop PC for quick shards if you use assail enough

[left hare]

can i be fgs without gun?

[nocturne dust]

Yeh

EK staff would be the go-to for that ordinarily

[left hare]

oh its a scriers build

i c

[nocturne dust]

Either/or. I prefer mk6 but they're close enough that there's no real favorite.

[upbeat kestrel]

I have to get that tacaxe psyker juice

[nocturne dust]

as said, use bubble if ya need

[deft stump]

This is taste related.

[nocturne dust]

The image is just something I had saved, it wasn't for Havoc specifically

[deft stump]

Try both for moveset.

[left hare]

lol i didnt realize scriers gaze quelled 50

neato

[nocturne dust]

That was a recent buff

[upbeat kestrel]

This was added on 25th

[nocturne dust]

For some reason

[deft stump]

Thing got overbuffed.

[upbeat kestrel]

Un needed

[nocturne dust]

When will bubble quell 😭

[deft stump]

10% is one thing, 50% too much.

[upbeat kestrel]

Scriers gaze was already strongest paykers ability

[nocturne dust]

No

[upbeat kestrel]

At least in my experience

[deft stump]

If 10%, give bubble 10% as well.

[nocturne dust]

Not a chance

Still not the strongest ability

Shriek is still shriek

[left hare]

if i use assail for sniping gun/special i need to use the rmb to aim it right

[upbeat kestrel]

Thats my experience. I get that shriek is shriek

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the shards generally follow where your cursor is pointing so LMB works for me

[deft stump]

RMB is just stronger and faster.

[nocturne dust]

Well your anecdotal evidence is wrong and stinky and I think you're poo /s

[nocturne dust]

wat

[deft stump]

Assail.

[nocturne dust]

Assail RMB faster?

[upbeat kestrel]

Rmb for far away shots. Lmb for hordes

[deft stump]

Well, at least for initial target.

[nocturne dust]

LMB for anything within 30 meters

RMB for further

[deft stump]

It flies faster to them.

[nocturne dust]

Ah, travel speed

that's whatever

Attack speed is more important, and lmb wins handily at that

[deft stump]

Sometimes, something just needs to die faster.

[left hare]

ok, fgs what combos do i want

[nocturne dust]

I only experience that with bosses

[upbeat kestrel]

Lets be real i play mostly on aurics. So SG with obscurus is funny

[nocturne dust]

Because psyker boss dmg

😔

[deft stump]

Because 3 idiots, you mean?

[upbeat kestrel]

May i interject and ask. How exactly do you play taxe psyker?

[nocturne dust]

#psyker-class message

Lights for horde, heavies for single targets on both, but mk8 starts with a push atk followed by stab

[left hare]

this chart hurts my eyes

[jovial juniper]

Pa heavy

[nocturne dust]

mk6 is better for single targets tho

[left hare]

mk6 feels very stabby

[nocturne dust]

mk6 has more stab per second, yes

[upbeat kestrel]

Ok i plan to play with the tan taxe

[weary idol]

shout out to the literal only good talent that fulminator archetype gets

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Fulminator steals the buffs from two other archetypes

[upbeat kestrel]

I just remembered. I will just be playing elven axe but with worse armor damage

[nocturne dust]

so you got technically 2 pools of cool (and bad) stuff

[deft stump]

I think is on fire as well.

Cos someone called me hax when I had it lul.

[nocturne dust]

Lucky. I'm in the Havoc mines.

[deft stump]

Inf gold toughness bs.

[jovial juniper]

You can also stun lock targets with special light loop
It's just that you get similar stun lock with PA Heavy

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-incrives-meme-meme-react-gif-25029710

[left hare]

for the fgs do i want to farm 2 bars before i do the big force sweep?

[upbeat kestrel]

The meat mines

[left hare]

or is this force sweep a meme

[nocturne dust]

Armored meat.

[weary idol]

no it doesn't

[nocturne dust]

it depends

[weary idol]

it gets inferior versions of their talents, and a host of shitty "if you get hit" effects

that only work on health damage

but it doesn't have health regen like colossus

[nocturne dust]

I literally got the buffs from pyro and voltaic

So it does

Thief

[left hare]

these guys are burning eternally, what's happenin

[nocturne dust]

Perilous Combustion moment

[weary idol]

that gold toughness thing is the only talent it gets that is not an unusably bad talent, or something that the other archetypes get too

it just sucks at everything

[upbeat kestrel]

We all know doubling ogryn boxes is best upgrade

[nocturne dust]

The special on FGS staggers anything that isn't ogryn/rager in combo so it can be useful at 0 bars

In addition, the melee portion of the special staggers all things (except bosses)

[jovial juniper]

Force Sweep is not a meme

At 0 charges it'll stagger pretty much everything

[upbeat kestrel]

Push staggering ragers mid combo is really nice on ogry

[nocturne dust]

it makes FGS the 3rd-best build for psyker in Havoc

infinite cleave go bbbbbrrrrrr

[left hare]

why did the rager fly into the heavens

[jovial juniper]

Oh Cole is using super impact mod
The rager probably died of dots, which sends them up

[nocturne dust]

So, basically, for the special sometimes you want to use it for stagger (0 bars), horde clear (1 bar), or elite clear (2 bars)

[left hare]

for mk6 is it light light light push for horde, then heavy heavy for ST

[jovial juniper]

Enemies that die to dots does a tiny jump and drop dead, super impact exaggerates that tiny jump

[nocturne dust]

Heavy spam for singles, light combos to heavy 3

for horde

[upbeat kestrel]

Third light combos into sideways heavy

[deft stump]

Health and corruption heal just makes it my goto for solo bs.

[nocturne dust]

but I just light spam

[deft stump]

Only other is Volt for Volt one shot bs.

[nocturne dust]

You want to push for horde anyway, so you get the sweeping light after push and then combo into the diagonal heavy

[weak galleon]

Collateral is a dump stat on recon gun, right?

[summer prairie]

here's wave 12 with both BB buffs and EP https://streamable.com/hneqky

[nocturne dust]

Collateral or Mobility, dealer's choice

[deft stump]

Yes, but mobility is better if you havoc with it.

[summer prairie]

31 burn and 31 sb pretty good boss damage with some additional buffs

[nocturne dust]

both

there's 3 buffs

[left hare]

oh this combos pretty fun

ur push goes into cleave h3 into lights again

can light into h2

is h2 the best st dmg

[nocturne dust]

The stab? yeh

[left hare]

the special opens bulwark shields?

[nocturne dust]

mk8's stab is stronger but locked behind push atk which makes it less dps overall

[left hare]

oh only with big energy

[nocturne dust]

Push atk forces Bulwarks down

use that instead

[left hare]

what the fuck

holy

it made him walk back

not knock down

[nocturne dust]

It's the same push atk on small force swords

[upbeat kestrel]

This also works on small force swords

?

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[left hare]

i have played psyker for several years

and never knew

[nocturne dust]

*my language may be imprecise, I am not liable for me

[left hare]

cos i went to ogryn at some point

[deft stump]

Small swords do it faster though. I think.

[upbeat kestrel]

I havent played psyker since 2.weeks before tje update

[nocturne dust]

no

[left hare]

any anti rager tech

[nocturne dust]

push atk

[left hare]

or anti crusher techs

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

push atk

[deft stump]

To go from standing to block to strong push.

[nocturne dust]

[upbeat kestrel]

Also push atack

[left hare]

bro what is this push attack

[nocturne dust]

You can also use the special

[left hare]

this is ogryn push

[upbeat kestrel]

Also for crushers just heavy spam

[nocturne dust]

The special's melee portion staggers crushers on weakspot hit

[left hare]

ah

i c

[nocturne dust]

also also, yeah, FGS has the range to kill crushers before they get to you

so just heavy them

[left hare]

this is also ogryn range

this weapons crazy

[deft stump]

It just feels that way then.

[upbeat kestrel]

On my build i 3 shot them

[nocturne dust]

The one downside is it is slow

[left hare]

they gave a psyker an ogryn weapon

yeah like i said, ogryn weapon

[nocturne dust]

You cannot outrun a cspawn with FGS

[left hare]

wait i can outrun a cspawn?

[nocturne dust]

no

[left hare]

i mean with other weps

[nocturne dust]

you can't

[left hare]

lol

[nocturne dust]

yes

[upbeat kestrel]

Nah jist lore accurate force weapon. Relic blade can do the same things

[left hare]

i have never run from a chaos spawn before

cos i always ogryn

i just 1v1

[nocturne dust]

It's fairly easy to do with most melee weapons and a bit of dodging

or, on some melees, no dodging

cough knife and dueling sword cough

[left hare]

so i want a special killin staff here

[nocturne dust]

EK would be your best bet

[left hare]

is this still the build to use

[quartz barn]

Thats all of them tbf

[nocturne dust]

no

warp flurry + nexus

[deft stump]

You still wanna dodge for buffs and the grab.

[nocturne dust]

and maybe switch to +maniac for specials

[left hare]

maniac crit?

[quartz barn]

You can run out of the grab with knife/ds

[nocturne dust]

No, as in, with knife and dueling sword you can literally outrun those attacks too

Sped

Sped is kee

[left hare]

privilege

[deft stump]

But my duelist.

[left hare]

i think ogryn can outrun nowadays with cleaver tho

[nocturne dust]

Imagine needing duelist

[deft stump]

[nocturne dust]

Probs, cleaver fast

[quartz barn]

Dodge perks

[nocturne dust]

Cleaver is literally Ogryn knife

[left hare]

fgs i want shred wrath?

[nocturne dust]

Wrath yes

[left hare]

with unyield cara?

[nocturne dust]

2nd blessing is preference

just don't take warp slice/blazing spirit

ever

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[left hare]

wtf this has riposte on it?

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[quartz barn]

Shred isnt that good imo because you already onetap

[left hare]

lol why am i using shred

[nocturne dust]

Eh, I disagree

Shred is better because Riposte is inconsistent whereas FGS has the range to never miss

[left hare]

ogryn range moment

[nocturne dust]

Shred is just active all the time since you normally have something in range to hit

[quartz barn]

I have wrath with the nexus esque blessing

Forgor name

[nocturne dust]

That would be Riposte or Shred?

Or you mean Unstable Power?

[deft stump]

Warp nexus. Crits go up on peril?

[quartz barn]

Up ye

[nocturne dust]

FGS does not have warp nexus

[quartz barn]

Ye i was thinking of unstable power

[nocturne dust]

I had to check just to make sure I'm not going insane

[deft stump]

Why asking. Confused as to nexus mention.

[quartz barn]

My fgs has like 40 warp res so i get 45% peril per activation

[deft stump]

14% peril.

[nocturne dust]

My fgs has 60 warp res

[deft stump]

I made someone laugh trying to gen peril.

[left hare]

whhat are curios to run on psyker nowadays

2 tough 1 stam?

gunner res + ability cd + tough?

[nocturne dust]

That's what I run, people mix it up tho and FGS gets stam so you don't need stam curio

you could go 3 tough or 2 tough 1 health

or still 2 tough 1 stam

🤷‍♂️

Up to you, it's yo body on the line

[deft stump]

Just don't do 3x stam unless memes.

[nocturne dust]

and don't do stam substats

[deft stump]

It makes solo malice hard. XD

[nocturne dust]

I run 3 tough/health/cdr curios

[deft stump]

Cos accidental railgun and you red mist.

[nocturne dust]

I maybe should switch to gunner res or something

away from health

or cdr

People are running less bubbles in Havoc which means I have to actually pay attention to ranged 😭

[patent steeple]

I have figured out that I can use FGS special with almost no charge level as a melee attack to gain MM stacks as meleeker without the need to swap to assail... I know its not the most optimal way to do it, but it works for me (sometimes).

[nocturne dust]

yeh

I mean, assail is faster and better probably, but specials on force swords are indeed warp attacks

[left hare]

bubble fgs for havoc because damage wont win the game but a bubble will

[nocturne dust]

well, until you encounter 3 melee captains and need to get rid of one ASAP

[left hare]

ogryn taunting every 8s: i am the glue holding this team together

[patent steeple]

then again, it also lets me gain a decent chunk of toughness back via Soulstealer in a pinch...

[nocturne dust]

assail does, yes

[deft stump]

'Points at Oggy.*

[patent steeple]

I was referring to no-charge FGS special usage...

[nocturne dust]

Aggro gambling

[nocturne dust]

I'm aware.

[left hare]

oggy brought his rumbler/branx/mk19shovel/karsolas/borovian/mk3club today boss

[nocturne dust]

[left hare]

(they're all boss deleter level weapons)

[nocturne dust]

No-charge FGS special does not kill.

It does crap damage and is mainly for stagger.

[deft stump]

More, I watched two oggies delete bosses in H40.

[left hare]

1 guy applies skull crusher

the other guy applies thrust

50% life

the classic ogryn wham and bam

ask the ds guy to stop hitting though

else the shield will come back

[nocturne dust]

Gunlugger and Shovel Stunlock don't work on shielded bosses that well

and you will have ammo issues with 3 of them

[deft stump]

What shovel?

[nocturne dust]

Shovel can stunlock bosses

Oggie shovel

[patent steeple]

ahhh...

hang on, does the special get at least some bonus from charge even before I reach the first threshold...?

[nocturne dust]

no

[patent steeple]

shame...

[nocturne dust]

Thresholds are the only thing that matters

[deft stump]

Yes, but neither was using it.

[nocturne dust]

and no, warp slice does not help, the crit is trash and changes no BPs

[nocturne dust]

wat were they using

[weary idol]

fun

shame about all the worthless dogshit that the game insists on rolling instead 90% of the time

[deft stump]

One pick, can't really remember the other. But is not shovel.

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[nocturne dust]

Well, pick is pick

[weary idol]

infectious headache should exist on normal brainburst somehow

[patent steeple]

I guess its 1st threshold special spam if I want to proc Soulstealer without assail as often as possible (for some reason), then?

[weary idol]

maybe make it an additional effect for EP brain burst

to justify that dumbass meme combo a bit better

[deft stump]

Maybe weaker as an extra node.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you might be able to get away with 0 threshold spam

buuuuttt you will be doing only that

and the main procs will be from poxwalkers you kill after, like, the 4th wave

[deft stump]

Btw, the extra procs count as hed hits but don't add to serial killer.

[nocturne dust]

It needs a buff tbh

The radius for proc is too low

[deft stump]

I tested while soloing psyker.

[wide ibex]

I can't even see those abilities in the talent tree...?

[deft stump]

Had to manually pop 20 primary heds before it popped up.

[nocturne dust]

Mortis Trial buffs they are

not talents

[wide ibex]

ah makes sense

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e972652-8d42-4d49-ad97-3eddb51260cf/aneurysm-simulator

this is my build I usually use

you try to stay as close to 100% peril as you can, and if you accidently overcook it you'll usually recharge a shriek in time to cool off thanks to the warp siphon

sword and staff for clearing hoards, and maybe some elites if you can combo a hoard into an elite kill with the sword, brain blast for killing anything too big.

you can also infinitely non stop chain brain blast, without meditating, so long as there remains enough enemies that you personally kill.

[patent steeple]

btw, I have tried swapping Combustion to One With The Warp on my meleeker build, and it surprisingly seems like a flexible skill point (in the sense that it can be either one, and still be (somewhat) decent)...

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hakari-kinji-hakari-kingji-goatkari-gambling-jackpot-gif-5065864224805726506

[patent steeple]

ranged attacks aren't what get my toughness to zero as often as gas bombs and, weirdly enough, surprise muties would...

[wide ibex]

my melee psyker build is essentially this one:

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da51441-94cb-4d28-b4b7-c4d0211a37b3/grey-knight-psyker-smite-telekine-high-crit-tank-melee-bolter

The one I made and am testing out currently is much more ranged base

it seems the best strat for melee psyker is get any ability that increases your crit chance or toughness regen through kills

job done

[weary idol]

tank psyker

hilarious

[wide ibex]

I find range can absolutely destroy my melee psyker way more than anything else

[wide ibex]

the regen on toughness is nuts

[weary idol]

melee psyker and no melee damage nodes

double hilarious

[wide ibex]

however... however...

a 150 toughness pool that regens in like 2 seconds flat is still only 150 toughness

[late sapphire]

I'm sure this build works perfectly well in heresy

[wide ibex]

so you have to keep an eye on any high damaging targets

[patent steeple]

not the highest bar to get over...

[wide ibex]

it works fine in heresy

[weary idol]

also no mobility, and no assail

[wide ibex]

I haven't tested it in havoc

[patent steeple]

what about auric?

[wide ibex]

yeah that was fine too

harder, as auric always is but achievable

[weary idol]

I'm ngl as a Psyker main this is pretty close to what I would build if I was intentionally trying to make the weakest psyker build possible that is still a real 30 point+keystone build

[wide ibex]

It works fine, it lacks any real good damange dealing sans empowered smite, but it also regens like crazy so as long as you can stop your toughness pool from being eliminated in one blow... and you have a steady stream of enemies in melee range you're pretty much unkillable

you'll die to stuff that does high damage in a single hit, high rend, and or has good range, since the bolter is nice but not really good for anything other than style points.

[wide ibex]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e972652-8d42-4d49-ad97-3eddb51260cf/aneurysm-simulator

This is the one I actually built myself and I'm testing out now

it works quite nicely but I'm waiting for my friend to get online before testing it on anything major

[patent steeple]

if you are doing melee, why use smite for anything other than getting Enfeeble from Charged Strike, so why would anyone be using Lightning Storm...?

[weary idol]

Few things to note. First off this node is bugged and doesn't do anything

[wide ibex]

smite is so you don't immediately die to a stack of armoured ogrins

[late sapphire]

Didn't they fix it last update?

[wide ibex]

that's literally it

[weary idol]

This is plus four meters to coherency radius

oh so they did

[patent steeple]

aka, not much at all.

[weary idol]

nevermind on that first one

[late sapphire]

still doesn't do much

[wide ibex]

anything that will eat your 150 toughness in one to two hits will drop you.

[weary idol]

10% rending is pretty banger

that can be an enormous damage boost to certain weapons

[late sapphire]

Only does anything for carapace

wrt all psyker weapons

[patent steeple]

maybe it would be better if it was active past 60% or something peril...?

[late sapphire]

Inferno it's huge on vs crushers i guess

If you ever stay at 75%+

[wide ibex]

yeah but I don't really care about solidity either.

[late sapphire]

Which you don't because you shriek and then beat then to death melee usually

[wide ibex]

since the whole goal is to keep your peril at as close to 100% all the time as you can

so your sword stays good

if you need it

[weary idol]

Psyker has the highest base crit in the game at 7.5% so +crit cahnce on their weapons gets severe diminishing returns

and Critical Hit Damage as a stat scales off the damage added by a crit not the total damage of the attack

aka it sucks in small numbers

[wide ibex]

its super easy with the build I did to just hover around like 80-95

and then shriek whenever you can since it regens real quick, or just whenever you overcook.

[patent steeple]

somewhat necessitates Empyric Will if using anything other than Shriek though imo, because while something like inferno does gen a lot less peril than the other staves, it still generates enough peril for you to be unable to hover above 75% without quelling every few secs...

[wide ibex]

Shriek is used way more as a bleed valve for peril, and to proc the buffs to brain burst in this build then it is for actually using shriek

[wide ibex]

last game I played only a heresy just to get a feel for the build, I think I used meditation to quell like three times because we ran out of enemies infront of us for me to kill and thus speed up the shriek cooldown

[jovial juniper]

Pretty much yeah

Vet rending strikes is 10% rending with no activation conditions

[late sapphire]

Tbh given what every other class gets it should just be a flat 10%

Yeah

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-sad-emoji-emoji-stare-disgust-gif-405076546600269050

[weary idol]

Ogryn has 10% conditional, Zealot gets 100% rending on their active (chastise)

Veteran is the only one that really gets to casually ignore armor for the fuck of it

[buoyant maple]

What lol

[weary idol]

Ogryn has their brittleness push now tho

[weary idol]

From their talent tree

I know that dumbass weapons like the toothpick get uncanny strike

[buoyant maple]

Veteran has a 10%

[quartz barn]

Dont forget vet also has bonus dmg vs ogryns

[weary idol]

And it's a balancing disaster

[buoyant maple]

The brittleness talents aren’t great

[wide ibex]

I like ogryn because they say funny voicelines, and lets be honest. Stats don't matter in this game, its just fashion and voice lines

[weary idol]

I have downloaded scoreboard mod entirely because stats do infact matter

[patent steeple]

then again, vet was (initially) intended to be the "gun-focused ranged class", so unconditional 10% rending helps with IAGs and Recon Lasguns...

[wide ibex]

lies stats do nothing

no mechanical uses

[quartz barn]

They do because penance titles = drip

[weary idol]

It is of critical importance that I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am carrying the other 3 on my back

[wide ibex]

only voicelines and drip

[weary idol]

SHame it only works on melee

this is cool though

shame about the max stacks requirement

[late sapphire]

I prefer the vermintide end of game scoreboard because it lets me keep up suspense only to confirm at the end yep i was carrying

[jovial juniper]

[weary idol]

on a buff that is a pain in the ass to keep at max stacks

[wide ibex]

you must work your hardest to turn this team player hoard game into a single player hoard game where 3 other dudes watch you play

[jovial juniper]

Wait I can do funky stuff as Oggy with the push brittle

[weary idol]

They were talking about vets brittleness

exploit weakness and onslaught

[left hare]

i was legit using 90% of my brain power on mk6 combo routing

[patent steeple]

I think that's not true. Shooting armoured ragers in the carapace parts do deal some damage when using the 10% passive rending iirc...

[jovial juniper]

EW sucks yeah

[left hare]

i was like fk wrong combo

so many times

[jovial juniper]

Onslaught is optional yeah

[left hare]

is mk8 brainless

[weary idol]

Yes those are called critical hits

Which have increase armor pen

[wide ibex]

a whole 18 watts

you could power an eco friendly bulb

[quartz barn]

You need crit boost for it to be worth

[patent steeple]

I meant even without crits...

[weary idol]

yeah weapons with horrible armor pen still do like...6 damage on carapace

[left hare]

whats the combos

lmb for horde and hmb for big bois?

smol brain combos?

i really need to alleviate my head trauma

[weary idol]

19 for achlys hstubber

[wide ibex]

sweet, what should I replace it with?

[left hare]

ah i see push atk to stab

[late sapphire]

Nothing because they fixed it

[left hare]

then h2 h3

[wide ibex]

oh its fixed

[weary idol]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

you are wrong

it works

[wide ibex]

I'm keeping puppet master because I don't want to be able to quell my peril 30% faster I need to keep it quelling slowly for the build.

[weary idol]

yeah no shit you're the last of 4 other people who told me

[nocturne dust]

[late sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1311009529894539324/unnamed.gif

[nocturne dust]

Have to correct misinformation until the correction becomes misinformation

[late sapphire]

have you heard though that fgs is real

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-crazy-cat-zoomies-gif-9877358298643393466

[patent steeple]

I swear that I don't hear the "ding" sound effect, or even see a blue hit marker to indicate no damage being dealt, when shooting at carapace with 10% rending VIAG, whereas shooting at carapace without 10% rending does cause both a blue hit marker and the "ding" sound...

[buoyant maple]

This is pretty bad

[weary idol]

do you see the message directly under it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sneakyvi-salem-gif-23205906

[buoyant maple]

It’s less that the stacking requirement exists, it’s more then keystone itself’s stacking mechanism is wack

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-sasuke-blind-windy-anime-gif-16633554

[nocturne dust]

I'm sure they will buff Vet right after Zealot.

Then Psyker

Then Ogryn

Then Zealot

Then Vet

[buoyant maple]

Nah, 80 nerfs

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-grabbing-zoom-yellow-stare-gif-25084978

Yes I did mention that immediately after saying the talent was cool

[buoyant maple]

Gonna be mainly nerfs

[nocturne dust]

Stop projecting wat u would do

Search your heart

You know it to be true

[buoyant maple]

It’s pretty likely for psyker to get a melee toughness gain buff

But it’s also pretty likely they get nerfed in density scaling

As for vet buff

Maybe 2026-2027

[nocturne dust]

Somehow I doubt this

[late sapphire]

Next psyker update deletes smite

[nocturne dust]

They literally just buffed gunker

because.... 🤷‍♂️

[buoyant maple]

Gun psyker is not the best scaling vs density

And still runs the risk of 100->0 in record time

[nocturne dust]

They also added FGS

and oh look, gunker suddenly has infinite cleave cuz FGS

[buoyant maple]

FGS has 1 infinite cleave atk

[summer prairie]

shriek/pc/psykinetic might get nerfed at some point but infinite scaling no

[buoyant maple]

And the rest are pretty meh

[nocturne dust]

they also also made PC proc off soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

and psyker has two staves with infinite cleave, yo point?

[buoyant maple]

There’s a difference between ignoring cleave mechanic and retaining the same damage distribution across targets

[late sapphire]

They should make a gun that has infinite cleave

[buoyant maple]

And an infinite cleave attack that has limited frequency of attack

[nocturne dust]

sure

[summer prairie]

just like they nerfed infite cleave in v2 right

[nocturne dust]

It is still literally the 3rd best psyker build for Havoc

by a wide margin

[buoyant maple]

I don’t like this description of VB/inferno having infinite cleave because it’s not accurate

Infinite cleave is a very different thing from “not interacting with cleave & mass whatsoever”

[deft stump]

Monkey's paw curls. Plasma now increases in cleave based on charge time. Max charge is inf. Everyone now has access to Plasma.

[nocturne dust]

Also also, technically FGS doesn't have limited frequency

you can special whenever

and that is actually effective in some regard

[buoyant maple]

For it to deal good damage, it’s pretty limited in frequency

[nocturne dust]

you can also do bleed shenanigans with it

[deft stump]

Flees.

[buoyant maple]

If ur using it just for stagger, sorta unlimited frequency at 1/16 or lower of its best dps

[nocturne dust]

the melee portion exists

[buoyant maple]

Yea, the melee portion that doesn’t deal that much damage and has cleave damage distribution

[nocturne dust]

Uhm, it deals 1000+ dmg per swing

[buoyant maple]

Is that supposed to be super impressive

[nocturne dust]

For an attack that can cleave until the game bugs out, yes

[buoyant maple]

It doesn’t do 1k+ to every target it hits

Unless I missed smth

[raven mountain]

The empowered swing also has funny effects. A light into a carapace is 41 damage, but an empowered cleaves through it and does 500ish

So you can cleave through armor, doing most of a heavy attack to all of it, and staggering.

[buoyant maple]

Yea, but 500 into carapace is still not great idk what else to say

[nocturne dust]

I would have to double-check, but I don't remember it distributing. I do remember it ignoring targets sometimes, just like the ranged attack

[buoyant maple]

It also doesn’t stagger crusher, only mauler (I could be wrong on this)

[nocturne dust]

you are wrong

[raven mountain]

For an opening swing with aoe stagger, it's kinda nice.

[nocturne dust]

It staggers crushers

on weakspot hits

[buoyant maple]

During their overhead animation?

[raven mountain]

Plus, it also leads directly into stab h2

[nocturne dust]

Mmmm, maybe not during their overhead

[raven mountain]

Sweep+stagger and then stab

[summer prairie]

the melee portion definitely has a cleave dmg distribution and does poor damage

[nocturne dust]

I haven't tested specifically during the overhead, but why wait

[buoyant maple]

I don’t rly care for stagger that can’t break atks

[buoyant maple]

There’s less point waiting if your weapon can 2 shot crusher, but there’s a lot of utility with a reliable stagger on a weapon that may take 4-5 hits to kill a crusher

[nocturne dust]

FGS can pretty reliably get to 2 hitting

[raven mountain]

It's like 3/4 of a crusher cold with just the heavy+stab

[buoyant maple]

2 hit damnation crusher, yea it’s doable

[raven mountain]

And that's without any dd/scrier's stuff.

[buoyant maple]

2 hit h40 crusher, you’re gambling for crits

[nocturne dust]

It's barely 4 on mk6 without any buffs, as soon as you get buffs it goes down to 3

[raven mountain]

Just walk up and bonk-poit

[buoyant maple]

With or without crit

[raven mountain]

I just killed 8 of them, and there's always 1 yellow. idk.

I think yellow is weakspot

the orange is probably crits

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the point is moot since you can just push the crusher anyway, and in havoc the Crusher can decide to not stagger via modifiers

[buoyant maple]

Not sure what they’re using in health bar mod now

[raven mountain]

Just having peril takes the 2-hit up to 3/4 health

No crits

[buoyant maple]

The only modifier that affects stagger outside of passive scaling is red and it’s quite reasonable to be staggering it before hitting below 50% health to kill it before stagger wears off

[raven mountain]

and that's no SG/DD either

Nearly a 1-shot when KF goes off. 😛

[buoyant maple]

What perks are u running I’m curious

[nocturne dust]

sure, but you can do that with the push atk

sooooooooo

[raven mountain]

Cara/unyielding with wrath/unstable

[buoyant maple]

Yea, so ultimately what I said of it not being good for staggering crusher out of overhead isn’t wrong

I can’t remember if it distributes damage in cleave rn

[nocturne dust]

I never disagreed with that?

I literally said I haven't tested it

[buoyant maple]

But I also don’t think 1000 damage in 1 hit is that impressive

Unless it doesn’t distribute damage in cleave

And stays at first target all the time

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's not until you factor in cleave and the ranged slice still happens and the stagger

[raven mountain]

I don't have creature spawner, and I'm sure cleaving some poxes doesn't amount to anything.

[nocturne dust]

like, the heavies do more than 1000

but they're single target

[raven mountain]

Yeah, I just pulled some 1600s

no peril

And the slice is also a great way to continue edging peril

[nocturne dust]

the heavies also do less stagger to that single target

[buoyant maple]

(Just my opinion here) but melee cleave has sort of a soft “cap” because after a certain point you can cleave more things on avg, than your angle of attack allows

[raven mountain]

It does FEEL like it cleaves a whole mess of shit when you throw an unempowered sword. (The sword swing, not the wave)

and it's flat across heads, too.

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes, there's a functional cap but fortunately FGS has reach

[buoyant maple]

Granted, ik that specific attack has a fairly good attack angle

[left hare]

can moonlight sword headshot?

the sword aura

[buoyant maple]

I’m also not sure if y’all are aware that FGS is the lowest dodge distance melee in the game

[nocturne dust]

the ranged portion? no

[left hare]

oh thank god

[nocturne dust]

I'm aware.

It is sad.

[left hare]

also mk6 is the best

[buoyant maple]

[left hare]

i wanna stab constantly

[quartz barn]

This is basically like bad vs good soulslike hitboxes, as in the hilt doing full dmg vs just the blade

[buoyant maple]

It’s based

[left hare]

i can't believe my stab is locked

[nocturne dust]

No

[left hare]

for the other 1

[nocturne dust]

I want mk5 ds

I want to dodge into space

https://tenor.com/view/aesthetic-space-diving-gif-13598060

[buoyant maple]

I hope they change duelling sword dodge template

To use default instead of ninjafencer

[nocturne dust]

I hope they change the spelling

It's Dueling

[buoyant maple]

Ninjafencer override is op

[nocturne dust]

idk wat that means

[buoyant maple]

So

Classes have a default dodge template

For psyker this is 2m base dodge distance

Every weapon that doesn’t have dodge template override uses this distance for scale

As an example, FGS has -7% dodge distance which translates to 1.86m dodge

[summer prairie]

isn't smiter worse

[nocturne dust]

uh

[buoyant maple]

Tac axe and duelling sword have ninjafencer dodge template override

Which is 2.75m base for scale

[nocturne dust]

yes but I don't include smiter as a build

[cosmic sigil]

tac axe are you sure?

[summer prairie]

smiter dodge template

nothing to do with smite

[cosmic sigil]

i thought it was knife and ds only

[summer prairie]

it's powersword and chainsword

[buoyant maple]

Let’s say DS5, you have +11% dodge distance at 60% defences and max mobility, which is 3.0525m dodge

[nocturne dust]

They should give ds5 +120% dodge distance

Zoom via dodge

[cosmic sigil]

you sould be able to teleport tbh

blinking like in dishonored

[earnest sand]

Force knife teleport special to be true ninja

[nocturne dust]

We're psykers but cannot warp

😔

[cosmic sigil]

true true

[buoyant maple]

Smiter doesn’t override dodge distance iirc

It modifies other dodge parameters, but not dodge distance

[summer prairie]

are you talking about that?

[jovial juniper]

Shriek Nerf but Rupture still shit

[buoyant maple]

Smiter doesn’t have a line that directly changes dodge distance base

Ninjafencer overrides to 2.75

[summer prairie]

and psyker_heavy?

[torn kernel]

Give fgs ninjafencer

[buoyant maple]

Psyker heavy doesn’t override dodge distance either

[torn kernel]

And my life is yours fatshark

[summer prairie]

right but I thought you said it had the worst dodge distance

[buoyant maple]

FGS does have the worst dodge distance of all melee weapons by default

[summer prairie]

where does that come from then

if not that template

[torn kernel]

Doesn't relic blade have the same distance?

Or am i just not noticing shit

[buoyant maple]

Did u see these other templates listing their own distance overrides

[plucky flax]

@upper sun crunch doesn't give any stack when I spam heavy asap

[buoyant maple]

Not distance scale

[upper sun]

what weapon?

[plucky flax]

Mk1 bully club

[upper sun]

🤔

[deft stump]

FGS better than Relic.

[upper sun]

its prolly better on picks

BUT

it should work bette rwith the attack speed from heavy hitter

[buoyant maple]

No

[deft stump]

Just psykers no have fury memes.

[buoyant maple]

Relic at 60% mobility has -14%, but scales from zealot’s 2.5m dodge distance base

2.15m

Power sword at 80% mobility is -12%, scales from Veteran’s 2.5m dodge distance base

2.2m

[summer prairie]

or do you mean it has worse than smiter because psyker's base is a bit worse

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah let me test at max speed

[buoyant maple]

I wouldn’t call psyker’s base dodge distance “a bit worse”, it’s quite substantially worse

[summer prairie]

sure

but chainsword for psyker should still be worse, no?

[plucky flax]

Still nope.

[deft stump]

Don't do it. It was painful.

[buoyant maple]

Chainsword at 60% mobility is +1%, so 2.02m

[upper sun]

prolly not that good on clubs

[deft stump]

No dodge, no block Misses deflection..

[summer prairie]

oh we are comparing >50% mobility values

[buoyant maple]

I’m just checking based on optimal stat rolls

So not sure why a dodge affecting stat would be <50%

[summer prairie]

I was just looking at templates, not sure how the in-game numbers are calculated

like if it says dodge distance +3%, does that mean +3% to your archetype base

[buoyant maple]

Yea

Unless there’s a dodge distance override like ninjafencer

Which sets it to 2.75m base regardless of class base

[cosmic sigil]

taxkers stay winning again and again

[plucky flax]

Branx seems better than karsolas now tho with a lot of attack speed.

Better single target and horde clear is still gud enough.

[cosmic sigil]

why not borovian?

[buoyant maple]

It’s ok

But

[plucky flax]

I dunno does it have good single target?

[buoyant maple]

Branx hits single target so much harder

[plucky flax]

Branx heavy light light is easy to get to

[cosmic sigil]

never tested branx, i hated the karsolas tho

[buoyant maple]

Borovian has overhead and sweep mix

Outside of pull combo

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1354901937123754054/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.03.27_-_15.35.42.01.mp4?ex=67e6fa42&is=67e5a8c2&hm=a47856fcac75107494cf26c7efa29737a9259fbd3e6c8760e84ac23993809fb5&

Branx

[cosmic sigil]

the ''poke'' is the special?

[buoyant maple]

Yez

[analog agate]

With HH side you mean? I haven’t done that much ogryn tree looks

[plucky flax]

Cleave

[analog agate]

You mean taking the cleave sub talent instead of impact?

Sorry, answering cleave wasn’t what I was expecting

[plucky flax]

Yeah i assume you're asking which heavy attack node

[analog agate]

I was just meaning in general. I have done a cookie cutter build path posted but I haven’t looked at the details so don’t know much on ogryn

[buoyant maple]

Cleave is good

But impact is exceptional

[cosmic sigil]

impact dclaw next meta then

[loud girder]

what is this speed 💀

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna play havoc?

[cosmic sigil]

my wife is working behind me, next time bro

[plucky flax]

In game lfg is slow for Friday afternoon

[flat nexus]

we have 3

[buoyant maple]

It’s normal

[flat nexus]

need a pysker

but eu server

[plucky flax]

What level?

[flat nexus]

lemme ask

i forgot

33

[plucky flax]

Okay nice im also 33 so I can rank up

[loud girder]

it hits so hard for how fast it is lmao idk

[plucky flax]

6262260298

[flat nexus]

im on 34 but im on 29

[buoyant maple]

It’s a branx

[loud girder]

was it always this fast?

[buoyant maple]

It’s still not great at mixed horde

[plucky flax]

I did 40 this week but im only rank 33. The de rank is too brutal

3 bad pub games and it's rip

[flat nexus]

it affect everyone now right

i did like all pubs in a day and got down to 27

[buoyant maple]

But it’s way better than Karsolas at carapace & unyielding

[plucky flax]

Even havoc 20s have people playing super sus

[copper jay]

Yes 😭 I came back from 29 to 20

[flat nexus]

you wont belive this but i manage to complete a havoc 30 with an infeltrate vet

[loud girder]

i drannked myself from 30 to 15

so i climb the honest way

i was just getting royally annihilated on 30 so i wanna get used to havoc at an easier diff

[cosmic sigil]

is this without hh or any node speed>

[buoyant maple]

This is with HH and frenzied blows

[analog agate]

Havoc 20s people have always been sus. The new heresy

[buoyant maple]

Frenzied blows is not smth u should count on, since it drops all stacks on a melee atk miss

But it’s up when u need it

[buoyant maple]

No, new ogryn tree has frenzied blows

[loud girder]

i gotta hurry up and get my big man to 30

[copper jay]

I succeed my first level havoc 30 2 hours ago ! (This is like Havoc 40 before ?)

[deft stump]

But the ppl in heresy is still the same.

Imcluding me.

[loud girder]

it is

i should have never been 30 lmao

or the old 40

i got carried pretty much

[copper jay]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e6a6514-0b6a-4de9-bd2b-fb25b5a2fae0/kittehs-dh-tank-build

[deft stump]

Though I might just be soloing malice mortis on my ded server.

[copper jay]

This is working in Havoc 40 ?

[deft stump]

Nu. That is for heresy tanking DH.

WDYM havoc 40???

It's funni memes, not a serious build.

[copper jay]

What is your serious build ?

[deft stump]

Don't bring +9 stam to havocs.

[deft stump]

Zealot h40.

[copper jay]

No Psyker ?

[deft stump]

Nope.

[buoyant maple]

Chorus op

[deft stump]

I play Vet and Zealot better.

[buoyant maple]

Psyker has to hold m2 then m1

[deft stump]

And my Vet build made Path reeeeeeeeeeee about Bistol breakpoints already.

[buoyant maple]

Zealot just needs to press F every 20s

[deft stump]

Yep. Also until death.

[cosmic sigil]

@plucky flax got room?

you wanna do mortis @deft stump

[deft stump]

Am taking a shower soon. Waiting for heater.

Will be free next run if there's space.

Yes, I'm blunt.

[cosmic sigil]

Hmm by the time you've finished showering I will be running my 10k

[deft stump]

10k?

[cosmic sigil]

10 km

[copper jay]

And who is doing boss damage ?

[deft stump]

Ah.

[deft stump]

The oggies.

[cosmic sigil]

honestly i should be doing 15 but well

[deft stump]

Bullying and decimating the bosses.

[copper jay]

And Vet ... ?

[deft stump]

What vet?

[copper jay]

Vet dont do boss damage ?

[deft stump]

They buffed ammo tins and such.

So what vet?

[copper jay]

What Vet role

[jovial juniper]

None

[deft stump]

Was ammo dispenser, now not needed.

[jovial juniper]

Jk Vet Role is every role

[copper jay]

Vet new Ogg ?

[deft stump]

Basically.

[jovial juniper]

Nah old Oggy had a role on havoc

Vet on havoc is just do everything

Have less impact

[deft stump]

You can just run 1/2 oggies, 1/2 zealots and 1/2 psykers and skip vet tbh.

[jovial juniper]

If anything probably a Vet focused on boss beat down

With like FT

And a chain weapon for shields

[deft stump]

But yeah, I play aurabot in Havoc, so don't ask me for serious builds.

If you want fun memes or so, I guess?

[buoyant maple]

Ogryn

[jovial juniper]

And that's without Skullcrusher?

[deft stump]

I mentioned that already lul.

[buoyant maple]

pickaxe doesn't have skullcrusher

[deft stump]

Pickaxe is pickaxe though.

[jovial juniper]

Pickaxe doesn't
But a teammate might

Imagine the possibilities

[deft stump]

Memes.

[past kite]

𝖦𝗎𝗒𝗌

[patent steeple]

btw, any thoughts on this Taxe Voidstrike build of mine?

and no, I do not actively use smite on this build, its purely there for Enfeeble/Charged Strike procs, so that stuff dies/can die more easily if they survive my taxe combos for too long...

[past kite]

𝖨𝗌 𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝖺𝗇 𝖾𝖺𝗌𝗒 𝗐𝖺𝗒 𝗍𝗈 𝗀𝖾𝗍 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗉𝖾𝗇𝖺𝗇𝖼𝖾 𝖿𝗈𝗋 𝗉𝗎𝗌𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝟩 𝗉𝖾𝗈𝗉𝗅𝖾 𝗈𝖿 𝖺 𝗅𝖾𝖽𝗀𝖾

[analog island]

Force sword push attacks?

[deft stump]

That assassination at the train station.

[past kite]

𝖨 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗄 𝗂𝗍 𝗇𝖾𝖾𝖽𝗌 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗏𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗌𝗁𝗋𝗂𝖾𝗄

[analog island]

Maybe shout or shriek

[past kite]

𝖠𝗅𝗋𝗂𝗀𝗁𝗍

[deft stump]

Use smite.

Learn to smite flick.

[analog island]

Well, the knockback of scales with peril.

So using it at high peril makes it push more

[deft stump]

Go to psykhanium, secondary charge smyke horde, flick camera to side before letting go, enemies get flung to the side

[lone ravine]

interrogation of the security stacks where you go into the cube room with two very thin crosswalks leading to it is how I did it

Just smite then yeet em off the side

[lone ravine]

Also pretty sure you don’t need to flick you just gotta let go before you hit 99

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
Friends are busy so I can't test 80% brittleness, Skullcrusher, 8 stacks of FT, relic zealot to keep the boss staggered for Skrusher and Branx oggy

[deft stump]

Easier on some missions to flick to the side with the hole.

So more targets fall down it to ensure a better chance.

[lone ravine]

what I meant is that it just flings them in the direction you’re looking so you don’t need to actually flick you just gotta look to the side

[deft stump]

Ah, the idea was just quickly look to the side and let go.

[patent steeple]

@jovial juniper you wanna see a kinda cursed build? no? well, too bad I will link a pic of my build anyways! #psyker-class message

[lone ravine]

Yea but with how lenient smite is on the stun angle

[deft stump]

It's easier than trying vent lul.

[lone ravine]

True

And most times you have the dmg talent so vent will just kill em

[deft stump]

Could also do solo mortis if last resort.

Need to rng the metal gloriana looking one.

Near the Valkyrie.

Been doing many penances in solo ded server.

Just see how far I go alone.

[left hare]

really love fgs

[analog island]

I was really scared cause I thought I saw an extra A in the last word

Lol

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/when-the-banana-sells-a-million-dollars-gif-11873212726979639512

[plucky flax]

Sry bro I joined a 3 stacks

[verbal thistle]

he doesnt like you keet

😔

[plucky flax]

Getting free carry by 3 guys feels okay man.

[wispy bay]

Can you carry me?

[deft stump]

I see you are carrying again.

Carry my auric maels.

Am poor again because wrong info.

Someone said to roll 66 ammo rumbler.

I had a mobility dump from the start.

It was actually 66 ammo ripper.

1 mil dockets gone.

[left hare]

psyker is op

what is this class

[marble crater]

Rip

[prime elk]

psyker

[left hare]

bubble, fire, bubble, fire, bubble, fire

whats the trauma staff build

[marble crater]

Should be pinned

[zinc phoenix]

With any fire build you want to grab fire nodes, shriek, cooldown reduction for shriek and whatever crit chance nodes you can find

You can vary things around that

The essence of all the fire builds is pretty much identical: use staff to power shriek, use shriek for your damage

[left hare]

i'm in havoc and using buble

[zinc phoenix]

You don’t have to use bubble in havoc, but for a havoc build you’d emphasize more of the peril reduction stuff and take a couple more survival nodes

[left hare]

i will continue to use bubble because i'm pubbing

[zinc phoenix]

Ok, if you already know what you want to do and have locked into a particular path you can just build yourself something 🤷‍♀️

The build variety in this game is minimal and extremely path dependent so there’s not exactly a lot going on

[deft stump]

I mean, I listened to oggies, so I got exactly what I asked.

[plucky flax]

Why 66 ammo?

[prime elk]

procs inspiring barrage every shot

for toughness restore memes

[plucky flax]

I JUST DIE B RUH

@flat nexus

[flat nexus]

got bonked by balwalk

xD

[flint spear]

hi, does anyone know how to complete the 'Malleus Monstronum' penance?

the wording is a bit odd to me

Do I only need to deal 50 damage with burst in solo mode and then kill it?

[analog agate]

This is my blaze VB build for high havoc

[plucky flax]

NO YOU NEED TO DAMAGE 50% ITS HP

[verbal thistle]

50% boss hp with BB dont need killing blow

so rude

yelling

[plucky flax]

Sry it was my lil sister

Ainz wanna join havoc?

[flint spear]

but the game mode has to be private

[plucky flax]

Yes.

You need 1 other guy with you.

[flint spear]

so i set up a game with bots kill them and then kill a monser with brainburst

[plucky flax]

Unless you have mods you can't start private game by yourself.

[flint spear]

so this is not soloable

what a sh it show

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

It was for ripper not rumbler. They made a mistake and never told me till I ran out of dockets.

[plucky flax]

Why are you poor?

Let me give you 5 mils

[deft stump]

In dockets.

[flint spear]

would anyone be willing to assist, till I can't do it solo?

[deft stump]

Gimme a sec. I'll get on.

[plucky flax]

Karien solo mm

[deft stump]

I have been doing it when Clad or Ainz isn't here.

[mossy canopy]

Does the DH strat still work for MM? Or did they buff them/nerf the peril blocking

[deft stump]

Yes, still works. Oggy or psyker tank.

[deft stump]

Just add when I stop being in inf load.

[steady torrent]

Am i cooking, or im cooked?

[prime elk]

SG with warp charges is a choice

[deft stump]

A meme one, but can be fun.

[flint spear]

thank you for your quick help @deft stump

[prime elk]

idk, i prefer having funny blue men

[deft stump]

Lucky early bosses lul.

[flint spear]

had to leave fast casue I got a delivery^^

[deft stump]

Ah, that's fine. I usually don't mind if ppl wanna try finishing it heh.

Now back to grindy penances on my zealot in mortis.

[flint spear]

could let the guy wait outside till the mission is over xD

[upper sun]

yee and its really reactive with rock after the changes and the swap speed talent

[deft stump]

Cos who uses stun 'nades on zealot anyway.

[deft stump]

Naw, that's mean.

[upper sun]

@patent mango @autumn lark WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A CHAOS CULT ON MY SHIP SEND HELP

I AM SCARED

[flint spear]

finally 😛

[autumn lark]

Death cult*

[upper sun]

are you sure its not a chaos cult?

[autumn lark]

100% sure

[upper sun]

ok were good this is fine

[crude cape]

I'm sure people have better clips of using the warp slice and getting some good multi elite/special kills but I put this together from an AM the other night. Thought some of these AOE's were juicy

[deft stump]

Someone joined, left after getting eaten by BoN.

Lul.

[crude cape]

Red stim gives rending, right?
is that why the warp slice was able to hurt that crushers so much more than normal at :45?

[deft stump]

Yeh.

[crude cape]

ya, pretty dope it works on the slice lol

did about 60% of those crushers hp, finished the one and put the 2nd at 40% hp

usually it tickles them

[patent mango]

lmao

not chaos they're just a little silly

[flat nexus]

@plucky flax btw i was not the one that trigger the barrel i just saw it light up 👀

[plucky flax]

Wasn't me I saw it was fine here

Sabotaged

[flat nexus]

maybe nade?

[prime elk]

oof

[flat nexus]

since i was in book

thats the same spot where both run ended

[plucky flax]

Cursed

[west pebble]

Is gaze any good? Trying it out

[plucky flax]

Gazer

[west pebble]

That a yes?

[plucky flax]

Sure

[steady torrent]

its good for going crit for guns, and voidblast staff

[prime elk]

it's not good.

it's fucking broken right now

[steady torrent]

I mean prefer this then old gaze lol

[copper jay]

@strong gulch Do you use stamina curios in Havoc ?

[hearty wolf]

yes

[west pebble]

Call me a heretic but I’ve been using it with Assail

[strong gulch]

Yes. I like opting out of stam management most of the time. lol

It's also helpful when stacked with KD for revives, holding boss agro, running away, and pushes. Personal choice for sure. I like my stam.

[strong gulch]

hi

[copper jay]

Do you use stam + 2 hp ?

[steady torrent]

You know what, I been doing the same thing

I been edging the warp even more