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#psyker-class
hearty wolf
The daemonhost rituals need to be tweaked to be less boring
it's literally just
"Can you press W? okay hold it"
"no? press s"
deft stump
If you need help, just ask. Has to be in a private lobby btw.
strong gulch
I think it's harder to deal with in H40, but I get what you're saying.
Make it interesting or shorter.
Then again, they hide them sometimes. 
tepid tangle
If you need help, just ask. Has to be in a private lobby btw.
i mean, if youre offering
deft stump
i mean, if youre offering
I'll get on.
tepid tangle
oh thank you
deft stump
oh thank you
I'll be in the sus Vox. Just add via friend code.
upper sun
Or change the amount of cultists to 4
imo make them easier to kill
marble crater
Gamepass with the surprise Borderlands 3 Ultimate Edition drop 
upper sun
did you play borderlands 2?
upper sun
no need then you already played the best borderlands has to offer
jovial juniper
💀
marble crater
I could still go for some wacky Borderlands humor and super random guns though
You can't stop me anyway
upper sun
reminder to first start up the game on pc
give yourself 999 keys
then play it on xboxe
marble crater
No
deft stump
@upper sun You came too late.
jovial juniper
AM.. I.. WRONG?
Idk
Everywhere I go they say bl2 good
Then shits on the presequel or something
loud girder
wispy bay
Which is a fair point to critic on.
ripe obsidian
BL3 had arguably the worst writing of any AAA game I've played
Most frustrating was that the PCs didn't seem to impact anything. Like, you fought bosses and won, only to get cutscenes of the villain winning. You watch allies get shot from 2 feet away and can't do anything (not that you're in the cutscene). No one talks about you, no one seems to care that you exist. The plot happens parallel to you, but doesn't involve you in any meaningful way
late sapphire
Most frustrating was that the PCs didn't seem to impact anything. Like, you foug...
I played the early part and totally agree
Played until the death of ||maya||, beating the boss fight in about three seconds made it even dumber, and the following writing just saw me quitting the game outright
deft stump
Played until the death of ||maya||, beating the boss fight in about three second...
Honestly, this might be why I don't even actually wanna play it.
late sapphire
The updated movement was quite nice; I had set up an autohotkey script + cheatengine table to add sprinting to bl2 myself
deft stump
The updated movement was quite nice; I had set up an autohotkey script + cheaten...
Yes, but story is srsbsn.
late sapphire
The lootnshooter elements were also kinda sucky and poorly balanced
Maybe i'm too old for bl3
marble crater
I installed almost 100GB of BL3 and now everyone is talking shit about it 
late sapphire
I installed almost 100GB of BL3 and now everyone is talking shit about it <:Guar...
Give it a go
But do prepare the 'mute all dialogue' mod
deft stump
Maybe i'm too old for bl3
I mean, the jokes have been taking a downhill spiral.
And skip all you can.
If it's as bad as I know.
marble crater
Thankfully it's on Gamepass, so it's "free"
patent mango
I installed almost 100GB of BL3 and now everyone is talking shit about it <:Guar...
bl3 somehow manages to have even worse netcode than bl2
marble crater
deft stump
bl3 somehow manages to have even worse netcode than bl2
As bad as 1?
deft stump
Where your jump is on a delay if you have more than 5 ping?
patent mango
bl3 your character teleports around if you jump lol
deft stump
So VT2 on high ping but worse.
marble crater
I will just test it now 
patent mango
cars cant move straight and attacks are all delayed and goofed
deft stump
cars cant move straight and attacks are all delayed and goofed
So worse than BL1.
Because at least cars go straight just don't swerve.
deft stump
And the shooting was perfectly fine.
patent mango
they managed to make the melee camera lock on somehow DELAYED
patent mango
yeah on ror2 sp was goofy too
deft stump
tiny tinas netcode is even worse btw
How do they keep getting worse???
Do they not learn?
patent mango
rot is spreading through gearbox slowly
patent mango
bl is the reason i think dt's netcode is decent
at least in dt grabs are the only thing thats silly for me
and the dcs.................. (servers caught fire...)
deft stump
True. Unless you are rubberbanding to heck.
patent mango
wait i meant dts netcode is decent i edited it now
deft stump
wait i meant dts netcode is decent i edited it now
Is okay if you have stable ping.
upper sun
I installed almost 100GB of BL3 and now everyone is talking shit about it <:Guar...
100gbs
damn
it was like 30 when i played it
how much dlc slop is in there
deft stump
Thrown out the window if not.
patent mango
Is okay if you have stable ping.
up till 200 it should be fine
deft stump
up till 200 it should be fine
Even 270. When it's not being iffy. It's just 0.4~ sec delay.
upper sun
nope you're safe for now
deft stump
Is up to packet loss then.
upper sun
just 1,2 and presequal
deft stump
nope you're safe for now
Were you planning to feed?
upper sun
hey
no
the opposite
give him overlevelled weapons ruin his gameplay experience and leave
deft stump
Note to self, don't even think of playing with Clad TT.
long wharf
Definitely a dick move
patent mango
How do they keep getting worse???
wait bl4 could do the funniest thing
analog agate
I like playing with clad. He keeps it real
wide ibex
I have offically made the dumbest psyker build
I call it the aneurism simulator, and I have reduced the game to only holding left and right click and ocassionally pressing f
Where and how can I upload videos?
strong gulch
Sounds like smite to me.
Keep chatting and you'll get red role. That will allow you to post links and pic.
wide ibex
And also react with default emojis apparently, thanks 👍
wide ibex
Sounds like smite to me.
my main build is heavily based on this one:
which is fun
deft stump
wait bl4 could do the funniest thing
Be actually playable?
deft stump
be even worse
That's not funni, that's expected.
patent mango
true true
wide ibex
Sounds like smite to me.
welp if you see any way to make that meme build better let me know
nocturne dust
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e972652-8d42-4d49-ad97-3eddb51260cf/an...
Behold
Infinite Smite
2 free points for whatever you want
marble crater
Stop recommending it to people 
strong gulch
I was gonna ask what you meant by "better", but Deadvoid got you. lmao
I'd but my last points in soulstealer, KD, or OwtW.
marble crater
I already have brain damage from people today not knowing how to play pox gas missions, they always think it's the best idea to start rushing ahead when the gas started and then to fight all the hordes and elites inside the gas. Why?
nocturne dust
Note: the infinite smite is somewhat annoying because what you're supposed to do is smite -> get high peril -> quell by activating scrier's -> continue smite until warp unbound is almost over, but sometimes when scrier's ends and warp unbound activates it'll kick you out of smite due to server nonsense
marble crater
Good
marble crater
Whenever I play smite for maelstrom I die a little inside
nocturne dust
then why do it
marble crater
Because someone has to have something for the dog/mutie/burster waves, because I don't know how good the people are when we start
wind spruce
Because someone has to have something for the dog/mutie/burster waves, because I...
Pfft
nocturne dust
Because someone has to have something for the dog/mutie/burster waves, because I...
I call that 'skill' and just dodge
wind spruce
Just embrace the chaos/handle them with almost any build
nocturne dust
Hallways work
wind spruce
Killing the things works
deft stump
RUN AWAY FROM TEAM and push.
I don't trust pubs to push. They nearly always shoot which is worse than bots.
Since that's 50/50.
marble crater
With the people I played with today I was happy that I had smite, I don't want to be happy to have smite
marble crater
I learned that I can't carry pox gas maelstrom
upper sun
TBH
pox gas does way too much damage
it was marketed as a choice between PUSHING through and waiting it out
but waiting takes too long and pushing through will delete your toughness in 2 seconds unless you're an ogryn
nocturne dust
Pox gas should just reduce your toughness replenished rather than damage you
lone ravine
it already does reduce replenishment but it feels like it barely does
marble crater
Hell, the other day I had only 2hp left and maybe 10% of my health was corruption, so I thought "I have enough room for corruption, I can run through this" nope, I just died right away
nocturne dust
it already does reduce replenishment but it feels like it barely does
Me with a bubble standing in the gas
marble crater
And this is when I learned it does damage to your health straight away
lone ravine
wait it doesnt just deal corruption dmg it deals health dmg too?
marble crater
deft stump
but waiting takes too long and pushing through will delete your toughness in 2 s...
Or book spam happens.
marble crater
wait it doesnt just deal corruption dmg it deals health dmg too?
Seems so, most of the time you won't notice, because if you take the health damage it will just fill up with corruption right away, but yeah don't run through pox gas with low HP
strong gulch
Seems like I can put those DH rituals in regular T5s.
marble crater
upper sun
Seems like I can put those DH rituals in regular T5s. <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322...
that sounds like its actually fun
marble crater
that sounds like its actually fun
Because it's your favorite map, Consignment Yard?
upper sun
maybe but also rituals outside of havoc
marble crater
Replace DH with rituals in aurics
analog agate
They need to fix the activation points before they add them anywhere. They should honestly take them out of havoc till fixed
strong gulch
Is the tox gas and tox bomber gas the same?
marble crater
It better be
spice aurora
What force great sword do yall like and why 😮
nocturne dust
6, simpler combos, easier access to single-target dmg
strong gulch
I can, in fact, load a regular T5 with the Heinous Rituals.
marble crater
I like mk8, lights for hordes, heavies for single target. I like it simple
long wharf
are there any mortis power upgrades for smite?
marble crater
Yes
nocturne dust
I like mk8, lights for hordes, heavies for single target. I like it simple
so literally the mk6
marble crater
are there any mortis power upgrades for smite?
That you deal full smite damage immediately, whatever that means
long wharf
is that it?
I ran one trial with smite, and saw zero upgrades for it specifically
and smite is ... god awful to play with
marble crater
It's the only one I found, only used smite once though
nocturne dust
That you deal full smite damage immediately, whatever that means
imagine if all it does is make charged strike instant
strong gulch
What force great sword do yall like and why 😮
Either for me.
6 can be more simple to use but also as access to more combos. Has easier access to the big upper thrust stab on the H2 and after the special.
8 has slightly faster lights and easier access to horde clear.
Realistically, for hordes you'll do 2 or 3 hits then block or push anyways.
nocturne dust
spice aurora
Thx
strong gulch
The stand outs are if you want faster lights or where you like the big upper thrust to be for the FGS mks.
marble crater
imagine if all it does is make charged strike instant
Make it do literally anything interesting
analog agate
I decided on the mk8. I like the first two lights for horde clear
summer prairie
I don't think the smite upgrade does anything. I recall they forgot to include the actual buff code
marble crater
nocturne dust
Fatshark Gaming
summer prairie
none of the testers ever used it so
strong gulch
lmao
jovial juniper
What force great sword do yall like and why 😮
8
I simply learned it and can't get the move set out of my muscle memory
Another day
Another demonstration that FS doesn't really care about smite itself
That being said
Smite buff next patch
Calling it
strong gulch
I want them to give us something else
nocturne dust
Granted, smite is replaced with smite 2, which sends out ten duplicates of the lightning similar to the shotgun effect
long wharf
a finger on the monkey paw curls
nocturne dust
Smite buff next patch
Nah, Fatshark cares about usage stats so they'll buff gunker because why else would you play psyker other that to play exactly like a zealot/vet? Everyone needs to try it!
lost minnow
psykers
how do i kill a boss as a psyker
praying and tickling them is not an answer
patent jacinth
What weapons/build do you run
nocturne dust
how do i kill a boss as a psyker
upper galleon
you stab the boss
upper galleon
A) you are BR build so you jsut do shenigans with ability spam to do mid but acceptable damage
nocturne dust
and two of those are not exclusive to psyker
upper galleon
B) you have inferno staff, and you just keep up 16+ stacks of soulblaze and alternate to another source of damage
nocturne dust
and the one that is, Inferno, is not anything to write home about in terms of boss damage
upper galleon
C) you have a melee weapon, likely one with good finesse, stab it in it's head
nocturne dust
A) you are BR build so you jsut do shenigans with ability spam to do mid but acc...
It's actually poor damage
Do not use Brainburst
I mean, unless you have literally invested entirely into BB, then use it a little bit while the buffs last before switching away because BB sucks
jovial juniper
how do i kill a boss as a psyker
upper galleon
I mean, unless you have literally invested entirely into BB, then use it a *litt...
that's literally why i said
BR build
you haev 2 shields, you stacked a ton of cdr, maybe even have 3 ep charges
nocturne dust
that's literally why i said
yes, but also only do it a little
because your buffs expire far too quickly
upper galleon
idk psykers are allergic to melee apparently
nocturne dust
upper galleon
while having KD
nocturne dust
Is slow otherwise
nocturne dust
idk psykers are allergic to melee apparently
I mean, generally, yeah
You would be too if a sneeze exploded you into bloody paste
I don't fault noobs for learning 'melee bad' on psyker, lol
wispy bay
Gaze with staff can do good damage vs bosses
nocturne dust
It can, but gaze with staff is literally only for bosses
and it isn't really improving your TTK by all that much
lost minnow
https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608
damn someone understood
nocturne dust
But best staff dmg for bosses is probably Inferno + uncanny melee + scrier's
lost minnow
wait whats gunker?
nocturne dust
wait whats gunker?
Gun psyker
lost minnow
oh
nocturne dust
Take Vraks Infantry Auto
Take Scriers
See boss
Press ability
Shoot boss
win
lost minnow
tbf scriers makes any gun good tbh
nocturne dust
wispy bay
Recon Lasgun also works.
nocturne dust
Lasgun does but is less damage
upper galleon
You would be too if a sneeze exploded you into bloody paste
b ut you have kd
nocturne dust
If you want to delete bosses, Vraks Gunker is your best option
upper galleon
and 2 of the best weapon types in the game exclusive to your class
wispy bay
Recon las let you hit them from further, and better in general.
because you are not wasting half a mag trying to hit something from a far.
nocturne dust
and 2 of the best weapon types in the game exclusive to your class
Staves are indeed exclusive to our class and technically melee
lost minnow
https://youtu.be/_5NL8UqkoLo
i think i grew older by 20 years despite this being my average psyker experience
nocturne dust
Recon las let you hit them from further, and better in general.
Hard disagree
Just aim
lost minnow
which 2 weapons aside from inferno?
nocturne dust
melee weapons, and gun
I mean, EK staff also does okay if you take +unyielding, but you're not getting great boss damage out of psyker with staff (unless you use uncanny soulblaze)
upper galleon
Staves are indeed exclusive to our class and technically melee
force sword and fgs
upper galleon
just stab the boss in the face and hold block and dodge back if it swigns towards you
let teammate grab aggro again, rinse repeat
nocturne dust
force sword and fgs
Eh, they're not 'the best'
Dueling Sword was exclusive
but no longer
upper galleon
yes they are lol
nocturne dust
Knife, Dueling Sword
upper galleon
both obscurus and deimos are insane, fgs may not have super impressive unyielding damage but outside of that it's still ridic strong
nocturne dust
Crusher is also really strong with its absurd stagger
Relic Sword is a more dangerous version of FGS, FGS only wins through infinite cleave
upper galleon
the only weapon above everything are the pickaxes
upper galleon
Relic Sword is a more dangerous version of FGS, FGS only wins through infinite c...
and a room wipe
nocturne dust
As said, infinite cleave shenanigans
upper galleon
and deflector without a cost to the offensive power like how relic has to rely on heat
torn kernel
You don't even need deflector on fgs tbh
nocturne dust
and also it sometimes missing for no reason is just annoying
torn kernel
It's hella block efficient
strong gulch
@copper jay Here's a vid of uncanny inferno boss damage. The debuff mod shows the SB stacks. #psyker-class message
patent mango
swwword sworrrddd greatswooor
nocturne dust
and deflector without a cost to the offensive power like how relic has to rely o...
Deflector is kinda trash, ngl
copper jay
Thanks I just lost my havoc i'll look into that !
torn kernel
Unless you need to block gunners, in which case, just get good at positioning
copper jay
Deflector is kinda trash, ngl
What do you use ?
patent mango
unless you need to block gunners in which case gun
upper galleon
"Yes, I would like to stare at an enemy and not do damage"
i use it when I can't reliably or instantly proc EE
nocturne dust
What do you use ?
On wat wep?
torn kernel
Shred/riposte or shred/wrath are the usual blessings
copper jay
On wat wep?
Force sword
upper galleon
smh witch chat
torn kernel
Riposte/wrath maybe but that's a little unreliable
nocturne dust
i use it when I can't reliably or instantly proc EE
Sure, but generally just dodge and slide. If you're out of all of that, you have positioning problems, generally.
nocturne dust
Force sword
Uncanny/Slaughterer
torn kernel
For the smol force swords yeah uncanny slaughterer
patent mango
1h fswords blessing variety be like ermm uncanny ermm slaughterer ermm uncanny
torn kernel
Nothing better than good ol rending + strength
strong gulch
Delfector is fine but must work in a build
torn kernel
KD + deflector +9 stam from curios let you afk through the entire mission tho
Just ask Karien
nocturne dust
I mean, I don't begrudge people who use deflector, but there really are replacements for it that are in your kit at baseline
copper jay
Deflector seems to be like KD no ? In desesperate situations
copper jay
I mean, I don't begrudge people who use deflector, but there really are replacem...
Bubble ?
torn kernel
KD my beloved
nocturne dust
Bubble ?
Bubble isn't baseline
I mean talentless baseline
As in, dodge, slide, and use cover
The good ole way
torn kernel
Deflector seems to be like KD no ? In desesperate situations
KD works while reviving, deflector doesn't
Which is why i think KD is just flat out better
long wharf
uh, did Unstable Power for the fgs never say it stacks?
nocturne dust
Deflector seems to be like KD no ? In desesperate situations
Nah, KD is far better than just 'desperate situations'
patent mango
As in, dodge, slide, and use cover
murder is also basekit
nocturne dust
KD lets you block for, effectively, free
marble crater
Deflector seems to be like KD no ? In desesperate situations
Wrong. It's for cool situations. I'm spreading deflector propaganda with this gif now, I don't care 
torn kernel
uh, did Unstable Power for the fgs never say it stacks?
Buff icons are just fucked rn, pretty sure it stacks
nocturne dust
and blocking for free is cracked in more ways than one
long wharf
the text description doesn't say the word "stacks"
patent mango
well fatshark descs arent normal
marble crater
Revive in the middle of a horde? I don't care, I have KD
nocturne dust
Wrong. It's for cool situations. I'm spreading deflector propaganda with this gi...
Great evidence of positioning issues
marble crater
Great evidence of positioning issues <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
What issues? I didn't take any damage
torn kernel
What issues? I didn't take any damage <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
You could've been dealing more damage tho
nocturne dust
KD lets you block instead of dodge, which lets you refresh your dodges whenever you need (as long as no overhead), and lets you ignore timing unlike blocking, and is quicker than dodging
If you're quick enough like I am, you can just block to prevent backstabs all the time when you forget that one poxwalker blown into a wall that somehow survived
torn kernel
Just believe in the EE gamble 
analog agate
KD and deflector can work extremely well for aggression
nocturne dust
They can, yes
torn kernel
The emperor protects those of faith etc etc
nocturne dust
Literally EE
torn kernel
torn kernel
EE has surprisingly consistent uptime even on trauma staff as well ngl
I take it if i have points to spare nowadays, it's fun to ignore an entire enemy type
nocturne dust
emperor protects
"For my Beloved!"
upper sun
playing rouge trader rn
nocturne dust
EE has surprisingly consistent uptime even on trauma staff as well ngl
it's because crits have a 'luck protection' system that pushes you to be more/less likely depending on how often you're critting
upper sun
game is peak but the combat is shit
its not finished
and its fucking made in unity
but its peak
patent mango
playing rouge trader rn
sog tradaaa
nocturne dust
pog trada
patent jacinth
Its so easy to break the game its great
patent mango
i have 1 tip toss your most hated teammate into the evil pit
patent jacinth
Arch Militant and Blade Dancer
torn kernel
it's because crits have a 'luck protection' system that pushes you to be more/le...
Game's rigged 😔
patent mango
Its so easy to break the game its great
break the game by just selecting psyker
dusky crag
and its fucking made in unity
There's no way that's true
looks it up
Huh
nocturne dust
Game's rigged 😔
patent jacinth
There's no way that's true
*looks it up*
Huh
It literally says it in the launch slides
torn kernel
break the game by just selecting psyker
Argenta getting 4+ full turns in a single round:
dusky crag
I feel like if you tell people it's easy to break rogue trader you'll hear 50 different ways they broke the game with broken build
patent mango
my p syker had like 20 deflection or something goofy like that LOL
patent jacinth
I made argenta my main character in my first run by accident
nocturne dust
Nothing wrong with Unity. Unity's management tho...
dusky crag
It literally says it in the launch slides
implying I don't spam esc while the game opens
patent jacinth
implying I don't spam esc while the game opens
Yeah
upper sun
patent jacinth
But sometimes you alt tab while it loads and come back to the unit or title splash
patent mango
i was tanking the hecking (endgame spoilers) || c'tan shard|| LOL
upper sun
he wants me
patent jacinth
i was tanking the hecking (endgame spoilers) || c'tan shard|| LOL
I got it to half then killed it in a single 3000 damage burst attack
On my iconoclast heavy weapons arch militant run
patent mango
most balanced blade dancer moment
patent jacinth
60 round box in one action
patent mango
i literally rose the difficulty every battle
and we kept outscaling it
hilarious tbh
patent jacinth
Ohhhh I should try that
I've just been on daring since my first run because achivements and not having 1:1 enemy stats feels weird
torn kernel
Bladedancer kinda weird if you have more than 2 melee characters tho
Gotta be hella creative to avoid ff
patent mango
bladedancer is cool until ur playing mp and you dont get gameplay cause ur friend has one
patent mango
lmao
patent jacinth
My current party is Heretical pyro blade dancer executioner RT, Kibellah, Idira, Cassia, Jae, and Pasqal
The action economy is a joke
torn kernel
Arch-militant RT + Cassia just enables so much bullshit it's insane
patent mango
cassia is silly
patent jacinth
Arch-militant RT + Cassia just enables so much bullshit it's insane
Arch-militant RT + Cassia just enables so much bullshit it's insane
patent mango
we did toss her into the|| bottomless pit ||in 2nd playthrough though
idk why i wasnt host
patent jacinth
we did toss her into the|| bottomless pit ||in 2nd playthrough though
What act is that and whats it do
patent mango
2 i tihnk
patent jacinth
I don't remember anything like that
patent mango
they just disappear forever
torn kernel
😭
patent mango
might b able to save??? don kno
patent jacinth
Heretical pyro blade dancer is funny because I have two force swords that scale of off veil degredation
patent mango
its some random planet
torn kernel
Been a while
patent mango
theres literally just a pit there
torn kernel
Actual murder
patent jacinth
its some random planet
Is it that jungle world with the black pit
patent mango
yes
patent jacinth
You can throw people in there????
patent mango
lmao yes
patent jacinth
How
patent mango
u need to talk to the thing in it
patent jacinth
and what does it do
patent mango
it might give a perm buff? unsure
torn kernel
Doesn't it give you +heretic as well
patent jacinth
Idk I just talk to it then pass the check to get the tiny weapon skill buff
torn kernel
I remember just noping the fuck out of there 
torn kernel
Oh god time to do another playthrough soon then
Not looking forward to having to redo the entirety of act 1 again 
patent mango
i wish the enemies did more in rt
patent jacinth
Yeah you talk to it then either pass a willpower check or a series of checks and get this
I didn't know you can toss people in
patent mango
idk tbh
theres also a hecking ||artifact that turns you into a ghoul somewhere? u cant even take it off||
that was also really funny
patent jacinth
theres also a hecking ||artifact that turns you into a ghoul somewhere? u cant e...
Halo Device
patent mango
my rogue trader put that on right away
patent jacinth
I intend on using it this run
patent mango
its so silly
torn kernel
Which is fuckin weird bc aren't those supposed to be really fuckin rare & expensive in lore
upper sun
theres a fucking choose your own adventure book in the game
jovial juniper
game is peak but the combat is shit
torn kernel
Like you can buy planets with those
upper sun
my god they COOKED
patent mango
Which is fuckin weird bc aren't those supposed to be *really* fuckin rare & expe...
we can probably buy planets tbh
upper sun
https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-dazed-unbearable-weight-massive-talent-pedro...
im not wrong
the combat is shit
torn kernel
we can probably buy planets tbh
Fair lmao
patent jacinth
Which is fuckin weird bc aren't those supposed to be *really* fuckin rare & expe...
Yeah you steal it off a corpse from a world thats been dead for ages
patent mango
not that it matters every trader requires rep so we can buy less than rejects in dt
jovial juniper
im not wrong
upper sun
I SAID IT
torn kernel
Don't think i ever found it in my playthroughs
upper sun
COME AT ME
jovial juniper
most warhammer turnbased games arent half as good as xcom or wasteland 2 combat
I miss wasteland ambush
patent mango
no the balancing is terrible in rt
jovial juniper
patent mango
its just true
torn kernel
most warhammer turnbased games arent half as good as xcom or wasteland 2 combat
Chaosgate daemonhunters would be decent if it didn't fuckin crash every 20 minutes on modern systems
upper sun
no the balancing is terrible in rt
Im balancing the combat by picking random shit for every char
patent mango
real
jovial juniper
Real
torn kernel
Real
upper sun
Chaosgate daemonhunters would be decent if it didn't fuckin crash every 20 minut...
it was gonna be either rogue trader or daemonhunters for me
and ye daemonhunters has some batshit crazy VFX
i heard the game loses like 10 fps if there are nurgle enemies because their goop causes everything to lag
jovial juniper
recommended
"oh but this could come in handy on the future"
patent mango
goop
torn kernel
i heard the game loses like 10 fps if there are nurgle enemies because their goo...
Is that actually the reason
upper sun
i WILL have one char specialized in every kind of lore
patent mango
funny
upper sun
Is that actually the reason
according to one reviewer yes
torn kernel
I never got far bc i didn't wanna bother troubleshooting lmfao
upper sun
when did you last try it?
upper sun
if you havent refunded it give it another try i think its alot more stable now
torn kernel
Refunded it after an hour 30
Oh i might give it another shot then
Probably gonna go on a deep sale this may anyway
upper sun
next skulls event everything should be on massive discounts
torn kernel
Hell yeag
jovial juniper
I made argenta my main character in my first run by accident
mossy canopy
is there a mod that shows the amount of stacks/debuffs on targets for psykanum testing?
mossy canopy
legend, thanks
mossy stratus
@plucky flax penance help?
analog agate
Possibly asking in lfg chat
mossy canopy
ah. Not familiar with it, I'm a one trick psyker
mossy stratus
ah. Not familiar with it, I'm a one trick psyker
need to finish a mission in under 20 min
analog agate
At least, I got it by asking in lfg
mossy stratus
and keep less than 1 wound of hp most of the time
prolly the train mission would work
mossy canopy
Good luck, that sounds even worse than ours. At least you can DH that
mossy canopy
the problem is it requires having friends lmao
mossy canopy
unfortunately it clashes with literally everyting else except some headgear
but it is nice
zinc phoenix
Idk the psyker penance set is pretty solid
Nice armored look to it
Funny that psyker always has a heavy armor look and zealot always has a light thing going except that one really bad metal set that seems to be on half the zealots
patent mango
psyker needs heavy armor to make up for the glass bones
mossy canopy
alternatively dress in rags so it looks good with the only cape we get
analog agate
I like the metal zealot armor
zinc phoenix
I also hate the cape and rag thing, it’s weird how common that is
mossy canopy
I like the "I just kinda crawled out of a random hab door and acted like I belong" look but it'd be nice to do other things and still have a cape
nocturne dust
Funny that psyker always has a heavy armor look and zealot always has a light th...
and yet psyker looks like small man in big armor always
thin knoll
Yo, did psyker get some twitch cosmetic?
deft stump
Yo, did psyker get some twitch cosmetic?
Yes.
thin knoll
Was it cool?
analog agate
and yet psyker looks like small man in big armor always
They need more armored legging options. Like the ones with the grey and yellow armor
analog agate
Was it cool?
You look like a wild berry poptart
fiery stratus
copper jay
Wrong. It's for cool situations. I'm spreading deflector propaganda with this gi...
Thanks for your propagande 🙏
strong gulch
I like the "I just kinda crawled out of a random hab door and acted like I belon...
SO fecking fair
faint citrus
Is shock maul fun on pysker and is this a good roll?
deft stump
Solo malice mortis till wave 6, raging idiot screaming in Mandarin joins and demands I do everything he says after I solo'd 6 waves. 7th wave, he stabbed enough boomers near me to put my Zealot to 3 out of 5 wounds corrupted and him dying on the last one. Kept raging about no book or corruption removal so I just left.
Considering how bs hp wise my zealot is, that idiot cannot play even uprising.
upper galleon
Is shock maul fun on pysker and is this a good roll?
You don’t want pen dumped
upper galleon
Solo malice mortis till wave 6, raging idiot screaming in Mandarin joins and dem...
In malice mortis kek
blissful solar
mandarin chad
deft stump
In malice mortis kek
I wanted to solo.
upper galleon
Why are there weird meta slaves in malice and heresy who suck ass
deft stump
Is good practice dealing with trapper swarms and such.
rigid sky
Why are there weird meta slaves in malice and heresy who suck ass
It's like the opposite of a sweet spot
they think that the game is all in selecting The Correct Weapons
because they have shit fundamentals
deft stump
He also got downed at the end of wave 6 due to a single mauler.
rigid sky
and they don't understand how much more effective somebody with good fundamentals can be
deft stump
After he aggro dumped 5 of them on me.
rigid sky
He also got downed at the end of wave 6 due to a single mauler.
tbf that can happen to anybody sometimes lmao
sometimes you just fuck up your dodge on that one last mauler
and eat shit
faint citrus
You don’t want pen dumped
Yeah I figured damn
deft stump
sometimes you just fuck up your dodge on that one last mauler
He had the galls to yell at me to go rescue him and such.
rigid sky
yeah, all that shit is the problematic part
deft stump
While I'm dealing with all the bs.
I rather take and beat uprising with a newbie who just understands I'm doing everything and just waits for the reward than a loudmouth smartarse who can't even play malice.
I left after leaving a groaner on him+2 bots in rescue.
upper galleon
(and watch as nothing happens)
I mean reporting can work but it’s still a small company so it’s mostly only guaranteed for flagrant cases
Ie someone being n*zi or somethin
But there is a consistent streak of fatshark upholding the social etiquette
blissful solar
imagine getting banned because you sucked in a mortis trial one time
i wonder if they have temporary punishments or if they just permaban, for that matter
deft stump
IDK, I was just spiteful.
If someone was literally soloing with no medicae because potato bots, don't demand them to do shit you could do yourself.
Bloody arse won't carry the battery himself and demanded I do it before he got krumped.
nocturne dust
But there is a consistent streak of fatshark upholding the social etiquette
Are people even banned from the game?
upper galleon
Are people even banned from the game?
Suspensions and forced name changes are more common
You basically have to be especially heinous or a repeat offender to be considered for a perma
It is possible tho
nocturne dust
I've yet to see one
raven mountain
Wait, they actually care about names? I see all kinds of wild, unacceptable ones.
deft stump
Naw, unless the VC is recorded and they understand mandarin, it won't work.
upper galleon
Wait, they actually care about names? I see all kinds of wild, unacceptable ones...
It’s a report based system and up until recently it was only through website tickets
deft stump
I do, why getting more and more tilted.
raven mountain
Yeah. If it's not in game, I can't imagine people will do it.
deft stump
If he just shut up after dying, is one thing.
upper galleon
It is now ingame, but i only really save my reports for really bad names
blissful solar
tfw no mandarin bro to yell at me 
upper galleon
Naw, unless the VC is recorded and they understand mandarin, it won't work.
Maybe if you did video evidence with translation as a ticket you could but that’s a lot of effort
deft stump
tfw no mandarin bro to yell at me <:kel_pensive:629172221398614016>
Play SEA. Get China ppl who plays worse than an account buyer for DOTA2 on team.
deft stump
Maybe if you did video evidence with translation as a ticket you could but that’...
I don't record due to already requiring DLSS3 to play this.
Streaming gives me visible lag.
cloud night
Suspensions and forced name changes are more common
Mfw when I saw a vet named adolf that looked uncannily similar to "funny" painter guy
Wonder if he got bagged
prime elk
Maybe if you did video evidence with translation as a ticket you could but that’...
i did that before (minus the translation because all in English), and idk if anything happened
i doubt it lol
upper galleon
I think my first bag was an ogryn named ARYAN who spammed YWNBAW and “*** *****” censored for safety but i just found it funny
How someone can be so weird
deft stump
Because ppl are arses at times.
cloud night
I've counted at least 4 or 5 uncle ruckus ogryns throughout my time playing
blissful solar
ebt enjoyer, BBC enjoyer, and cbt enjoyer. the dudes who got racist against me when I said "surprised yall managed to be good teammates given your names"
upper galleon
Ywnbaw is especially silly cause you either have to be trans and online enough, or a transphobe who is way too online to know about it, or just find out what it means via chance
deft stump
Is that someone just trying to speedrun a ban?
Are we back to Club Penguin where ppl just speedrun bans because.
zinc phoenix
fuck me lmao
i was just on my way to the hard clutch and was like "i should blow a fire barrel to give me time to heal"
apparently slightly too close so instant death 😂
sturdy reef
@dull scroll are u in a h36 lobby
dull scroll
yess
sturdy reef
sup then lol
dull scroll
wait who are you lol
dull scroll
WeiTuPhat 😂
sturdy reef
sturdy reef
rigid sky
oh man achlys twin stubber lugger is fun in mortis
you can shoot almost literally forever
just tape that fuckin trigger down
wary remnant
jo is the perk Penetrating Flame of the flame staff bugged ???
i mean i should do more dmg if i flame them in the face right?
and if i use a knife bleed them and use the armor pen from the knife perk every unit gets more bleeding dmg
i mean is good the staff would be broken but idk why does the perk even exist if its useless
strong gulch
jo is the perk Penetrating Flame of the flame staff bugged ???
This has info on pen flames
wary remnant
ty
rigid sky
I think most people go with blaze away / warp nexus
nocturne dust
yes, that's the standard
rigid sky
You can always do the uncanny thing anyway, imo penetrating flames isn't worth it
nocturne dust
The power in PF is being able to use it alongside Blaze Away at range
strong gulch
PF also stacking with other brittleness sources too.
nocturne dust
Safer than melee, and with a buddy stacking 40% rending you can deal with crushers as quick as uncanny soulblaze in a lot of situations
As one might expect, PF helps with enemies Inferno has more trouble against (crushers, bosses) while Nexus is more of a 'win more' blessing that is effective for stacking more on enemies (which is more useful against enemies you can kill regardless). Nexus also has synergy with EE.
rigid sky
EE is pretty huge though, it'd be worth it even if that was the only effect of the crit imo
nocturne dust
Uncanny + Nexus is definitely a stronger combo, but it's also vastly more dangerous since you have to get in melee range of the horde of crushers barreling down the hallway.
rigid sky
You can just poke a poxwalker to stack uncanny up
nocturne dust
EE is pretty huge though, it'd be worth it even if that was the only effect of t...
I disagree heavily. EE is great, but even with Nexus, Inferno isn't going to be able to keep it up all the time and even further, it's invalidated if you happen to bring bubble (and bubble is for the whole team)
rigid sky
And you can do it via the force sword push attack
nocturne dust
You can just poke a poxwalker to stack uncanny up
Generally, the poxwalkers will be cooked while you apply soulblaze
nocturne dust
Shriek is the non-Havoc meta, and that works
but that's because you don't need bubble or EE for non-Havoc
rigid sky
Cba with Havoc personally anyway
Auric Maelstrom is a comfortable skill ceiling for where I'm at
Demotion makes Havoc a miserable prospect for me lol
nocturne dust
Yeah, I don't love Havoc either.
Also, PF only really shows its usefulness in Havoc anyway
analog agate
Havoc without the quell and ammo nerfs would be perfect
nocturne dust
because Havoc just loves to throw crushers at you
elder glade
"oops, all crushers"
nocturne dust
Havoc without the quell and ammo nerfs would be perfect
I want Havoc to have no nerfs and just buff enemies
10 billion bosses Havoc
les go
elder glade
I would honestly love dealing with a ton of regular monstrosities.
ripe obsidian
Yeah, I don't love Havoc either.
Would you like it without derank?
nocturne dust
Would you like it without derank?
MmmmmmmMMMMMMMMmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm I'd like it better, but I'd probably still enjoy other modes more. It's just too long.
weary idol
Sure are teaching thst burgle a lesson!!!!!!!!
think of the TEN PERCENT damage boost to the other 3 though
thorn cedar
am i insane or did unstable power get a buff
i swear it was 4% per stack before but now it's 5
this is what happens when i take a short break
cloud night
think of the **TEN PERCENT** damage boost to the other 3 though
Think of the TEN PERCENT you can save at geico
elder glade
15 minutes can save you 15% or more on your car insurance
plucky flax
Considering how bs hp wise my zealot is, that idiot cannot play even uprising.
Sorry it was me
sturdy reef
is KD popping anyone else?
ripe obsidian
Maelstrom is sillypants time compared with even Havoc 20 now
left basin
Is charged strike still turbo ass
hardy coral
the Graia Mk VII is actually pretty good on a Scrier's Gaze Psyker. 
ripe obsidian
I've been goofing around with SG FGS. It's very fun. But I am not great at it, so I end up making one mistake, getting staggered, and getting squished
raven mountain
Would you like it without derank?
It's kinda weird. I don't hate the derank for climbing. It makes it feel like the rank matters instead of just getting into a lucky 40 once.
But I have serious issues with what it does to the system. People are significantly less inclined to try out bad maps, include weird builds or comps, or bring someone along who isn't the right rank.
And as I enjoy havoc in general, I've always been happy to jump into 20s and 30s just because. I didn't feel the need to run the couple of Meta builds, and if they're bad, I get clutch practice.
But now I get deranked if I screw around with someone low rank. I hate the feeling I get when people suggest havoc—even in the discord. Like, I don't know their rank, their skill, or if they're serious or fucking around.
tired estuary
If I'm losing to some bullshit map I just want to be able to repeatedly bash my head at it
raven mountain
I've been goofing around with SG FGS. It's very fun. But I am not great at it, s...
Yeah. My goof around recently has been SG knife. SG fgs was a ton of fun though. But the mobility of the knife turned it up to 11.
ripe obsidian
It's kinda weird. I don't hate the derank for climbing. It makes it feel like th...
Fair analysis. I would agree that what it does to the system is pretty problematic. I hit 40 last week and I've been avoiding havoc since. Prior to this change, I was going into anything 25+, but now I just don't want to play it.
tired estuary
and also I'm v publife so like, I wouldn't have an issue playing shitshow havoc constantly if I'm not being penalized for losing 3 games in a row + it warps people's brains so they demand metashit
raven mountain
I think the climb isn't too bad. 1-3 levels per map rather than simply highest achieved.
ripe obsidian
I don't personally feel like deranking is fun, or that it adds extra meaning to the rank. It just makes me feel like I wasted my time playing if I lose 3 in a row. Really, it saps the fun I felt climbing last "campaign."
And the premade I played with to hit 40 went on a losing streak once, and everyone felt bad. We were taking 30+ minute breaks after each match
tired estuary
Rank decay for not playing is "fine" but loss of rank really brings out the Gamers
ripe obsidian
I think the climb isn't too bad. 1-3 levels per map rather than simply highest a...
Climb is fine. Not complaining about that
ripe obsidian
Rank decay for not playing is "fine" but loss of rank really brings out the Game...
Loss of rank in a team game, PvP or PvE, is a recipe for blaming other people.
If someone loses a 1v1, it's not as easy to blame someone else. I mean, people still do, but it's not as easy. If someone loses in a 5v5 or 4vDirector, it's way too easy to say, "The Veteran sucked, cost me my rank," or, "Jungle didn't gank, GG"
raven mountain
I understand the need for entropy in the system because I'd seen some absolutely terrible 40s. Like idek how they functioned in low havocs.
But they built in a really unforgiving one. It could have just been a 4-6 week reset like they just did for each "season"
The slower climb with that level of entropy would feel good. Like it takes some time to get there and maybe a random ranked cosmetic for being 35+ every couple of months.
That would be where they could do the lazy recolors of stuff in the store.
Or even just like a couple hundred aquilas. Get people used to buying from the store, and they might buy more.
ripe obsidian
People will find a way to get carried in any system. Some H40s will be quite bad, unfortunately. I think going up 1-3 ranks at a time is a decent way to slow down the carrying or avoid a single lucky match. But this feels more like a system built around "engagement" than gameplay. Fatshark wants to make a live service game without understanding why live service works.
I probably won't play havoc again until the derank system is changed, and it feels like there are way fewer games in party finder than two weeks ago.
ripe obsidian
Yeah. My goof around recently has been SG knife. SG fgs was a ton of fun though....
I could never get any of the knives to work for me. They just don't click
ripe obsidian
and also I'm v publife so like, I wouldn't have an issue playing shitshow havoc ...
Tune down gunners to lessen the need for a meta. Add in more aggressive derank so people feel the need to stick to a meta.
quartz barn
Thats not really how meta works
ripe obsidian
...?
quartz barn
Theres always going to be setups that are stronger than others, depending on their usecase
quartz barn
Ye but you phrased it as if using meta / not sticking to it is bad
ripe obsidian
Prior to the change, the meta was pretty rigid with most players because a single shooter could knock anyone from 100 to 0 in a volley. So people took defensive abilities to avoid that. Better players could use what was perceived as less optimal.
Post-change, there are higher stakes to losing, so people feel the need to stick to the most effective builds to avoid losing. Again, better players can use less optimal builds to win.
ripe obsidian
Ye but you phrased it as if using meta / not sticking to it is bad
I think having an oppressively enforced meta is bad, particularly in a PvE game.
And right now it feels oppressive because of the attitude around losing more than the difficulty
quartz barn
Its not enforced tho, its just that offensive options need to put in a lot more effort than defensive ones to turn the tide
ripe obsidian
My experience has been different. People get really upset if you aren't using what they consider optimal, because they perceive that as a risk to their rank.
Post-update has had the first Havoc ragequits I've experienced.
quartz barn
- oppresive meta is only a thing when something is best in slot for every situation (like ds)
ripe obsidian
I also think DSIV is too strong
As I said, I don't think the meta is oppressive currently due to difficulty. I think the changes have made more playstyles viable for more players.
I think it's oppressive because people are saltier and more stressed
quartz barn
But for things like havoc you can pretty much use w/e as long as youre good enough
Outside of weapons that kinda suck atm compared to others
Voidstrike gets outclassed pretty hard for example
ripe obsidian
But most people, myself included, are not really good enough to use anything.
I can win at 40 on Psyker w/ DS and trauma or purg, or on Zealot with book. I doubt I could win on Veteran or Ogryn.
And if I went into 40 with Veteran, Ogryn, or a Psyker build I am not as comfortable with, people would be angry because I'm potentially costing them ranks.
Rather, I have seen people get angry. Not at me, but at other folks who went off-meta
Which I didn't see before the update
quartz barn
That has less to do with meta, and more with player skill
As in, people couldnt contribute enough with what they used
ripe obsidian
I feel like you're not listening to what I'm saying. Meta compensates for skill. A good player on meta is still going to be worse than a great player off-meta. Most people are not great. So they don't perform as well off-meta, and they feel forced to use meta due to the attitude around Havoc. Thus, oppressive meta.
It reminds me a lot of League of Legends rage, back when I played that. People decide you've lost based on weapon selection/champion selection and are already frothing
Particularly people on a losing streak who keep saying, "I will play until I win."
And they redirect that frustration at an easy target.
It's not a matter of game difficulty enforcing a meta. It's a matter of player attitude. Deranking makes people feel bad. People who feel bad lash out. It's unpleasant for everyone.
Yes, some things are better and will perform better. But I saw waaaaaay more variance in builds pre-update, because most people besides the host had nothing at stake but time
quartz barn
And because of the deranking everyone is expected to run the safest loadout
But that doesnt make it meta
ripe obsidian
It literally does
quartz barn
Same thing in league btw, not every build works in every elo because it requires a certain amount of game knowledge, regardless of winrate
ripe obsidian
Different levels of play have different metas
quartz barn
If you run a build that can snowball easily, cool. But those builds also get shut down easily resulting in said champ being useless for the rest of the game
ripe obsidian
The meta is whatever is most likely to result in success in the relevant situation. Or the general public's consensus of what will result in success
quartz barn
Vs the usual build that has a lower winrate but gets compensated easier
left hare
whats some of the best havoc builds, wanna try some psyker
uncut sinew
DSIV, trauma, bubble, warp siphon and BB has shown the most results for me
also obscurus, assail, bubble, DD with trauma has been good, depending on the teamcomp
plucky flax
whats some of the best havoc builds, wanna try some psyker
Bubble burga
uncut sinew
^
ripe obsidian
Purgatus w/ Nexus and Blaze Away. Rending trauma. Bubble.
left hare
whats a bubble burga
uncut sinew
i tried trauma with terrifying barrage and it felt suprisingly good on havoc
ripe obsidian
whats a bubble burga
Fire staff and bubble shield
ripe obsidian
i tried trauma with terrifying barrage and it felt suprisingly good on havoc
Isn't the issue with terrifying barrage that most weapons suppress already?
left hare
fire staff meaning purg right
uncut sinew
Isn't the issue with terrifying barrage that most weapons suppress already?
yes, but i noticed that for flanking trash hordes for example, you can just hold them in a single spot with terrifying barrage
wispy bay
fire staff meaning purg right
It is the old name of Inferno
ripe obsidian
fire staff meaning purg right
Yes
uncut sinew
plus in mixed hordes, it slows them down
wispy bay
If you go to the skin tab, its default skin is still called Purgatus.
uncut sinew
and makes corner fights more favourable for you
rich spindle
Pen flame purg + ogryn with brittleness is the best combo I’ve played in havoc so far
ripe obsidian
and makes corner fights more favourable for you
Fair. If it works, great. More variety in builds is good
small whale
Pen flame purg + ogryn with brittleness is the best combo I’ve played in havoc s...
brittleness is underrated it lets your teammates shred bosses 2x faster
uncut sinew
yes
ripe obsidian
I think brittleness is appropriately appreciated
It's pretty ubiquitous in high havoc
uncut sinew
yeah brittle trauma is a chefs kiss
small whale
A lot of people dont take it cause its more a team talent
left hare
is there brittle on purg?
wispy bay
However, that's mean your teammate will do more damage on the score board and you can't brag with that.
ripe obsidian
A lot of people dont take it cause its more a team talent
I see it on at least one Ogryn, Zealot, or Psyker in basically every mission.
small whale
However, that's mean your teammate will do more damage on the score board and yo...
Eh its more for boss damage and psyker sucks at that at least in my experience
ripe obsidian
Psyker is not good at boss damage
rich spindle
is there brittle on purg?
Yes, and it lets you reach 60%
ripe obsidian
Psyker has to put in way more work than Ogryn or Zealot to do boss damage.
Well. Or just stand in the corner and spew soulblaze and keep blaze away stacked
wispy bay
Eh its more for boss damage and psyker sucks at that at least in my experience
You don't understand my joke...
It is about denying other people from doing more damage than you.
wispy bay
Yes, and it lets you reach 60%
Isn't it 20% though?
small whale
I understand it, I make others use it so I top score
uncut sinew
Psyker is not good at boss damage
sciers, DD and DS4 has some chunky boss dmg
small whale
I think they're better suited for crowd control tbh
ripe obsidian
Fair enough. I haven't used SG enough to say. Still feels like it's more work than an Ogryn or Zealot, though
small whale
if theres no book up
uncut sinew
I think they're better suited for crowd control tbh
yeah, definelty
small whale
Fair enough. I haven't used SG enough to say. Still feels like it's more work th...
Veteran and psyker definitely have to be more careful
you get like melted instantly
and can die in a few poxy hits
left hare
so for purgatus go brittle + damage at high peril?
wispy bay
Gazer staff can do a lot of boss damage, or overall damage for that matter.
ripe obsidian
so for purgatus go brittle + damage at high peril?
Nexus and Blaze Away imo
wispy bay
If you are the second psyker, you can output more damage than anything with gazer.
ripe obsidian
and can die in a few poxy hits
My SG meleeker experience has been that I am a dervish of death until I misstep once, get staggered, and become a smear on the floor
uncut sinew
^
wispy bay
Just use staves...
ripe obsidian
No
small whale
My SG meleeker experience has been that I am a dervish of death until I misstep ...
I feel like scriers should give some stun resist
or maybe some melee talent should give it
ripe obsidian
I don't take meleeker into H40. I am not good enough for that. In the land of high havoc I keep to purg and trauma
wispy bay
Then there is no point of playing damage zealot.
uncut sinew
I don't take meleeker into H40. I am not good enough for that. In the land of hi...
it's fun, but one mistake and you are ded
left hare
ish
ripe obsidian
h40 is 1 mistake is end of u and the run
Eh. A good team can compensate for mistakes. I had to clutch at the mid event of ascension riser on an H40 the other day. Everyone else died, had to get them back up
left hare
i play pubs
ripe obsidian
And others have clutched when I got slapped once by a poxwalker and imploded
small whale
Yeah the stronger the team the more you can make mistakes
left hare
poxwalker got hands ngl
wispy bay
It is funny because stronger team means people would make less mistakes in the 1st place.
What a paradox
small whale
I had an oggy go down 4 times in a run 😬
uncut sinew
stronger team makes you more confident, thus making you do possible dumdum plays
ripe obsidian
Hero plays, thank you
uncut sinew
I had an oggy go down 4 times in a run 😬
just had to pick up his rocks
small whale
It was a wild game though 44 minute h40
quartz barn
Stronger teams are also better at carrying eachother
rich spindle
Isn't it 20% though?
It lets you reach 60% on top of the usual 40 from thunderous
noble panther
hi. what cool combos for mortis trials have you found? i think nothing beats scrier's gaze gun build with death dealer
mass brain burst is also pretty cool
nocturne dust
I mean, standard Inferno/Bubble works pretty well, but not because of Mortis buffs
Although grabbing the pyro buffs makes Inferno do double DoT insanity and Bubble can electrocute enemies trying to enter it, giving you even more time to burn them
Honestly tho, nothing beats the funny insta-death rng from some things like Ogryn's rock
cuz it works on bosses
not really a combo tho
left hare
for purgatus do u spam m1 or hold rmb
noble panther
i alternate, 2-3 m1 for stagger and then a half charge of m2 for damage
noble panther
I mean, standard Inferno/Bubble works pretty well, but not because of Mortis buf...
i think purgatus works good with voltaic because of 5% to electrocute an enemy on a range attack
i'm not sure if it takes dot damage into account, but anyway it should be good with just m1 spam
nocturne dust
i think purgatus works good with voltaic because of 5% to electrocute an enemy o...
pyro gives you burn stacks on ranged attack
it also (sometimes) buffs soulblaze
so like
that's many times better than a minor chance to electrocute
nocturne dust
for purgatus do u spam m1 or hold rmb
RMB always
well, always when safe
m1 is purely to stagger
RMB is the dmg provider
wispy bay
If you use any staff, there is very little reason to take voltaic.
nocturne dust
Sadly, voltaic generally falls behind pyro by quite a bit
wispy bay
Most the the reliable ones are either melee or standalone.
If you run melee, it is not at all.
nocturne dust
I mean, neither voltaic or pyro are good for melee
nocturne dust
I cant find any havoc games any longer
Deranking moment
Also probably a bad time to be looking if you're in the US
raven mountain
I cant find any havoc games any longer
12-14 hours from now is pretty great for teams. Same with the discord teams.
lilac summit
can someone explain what the difference between m1 and m2 brainburst is?
wispy bay
That's a little tough.
nocturne dust
can someone explain what the difference between m1 and m2 brainburst is?
m1 charges faster but needs a target, locks on, and loses charge if target dies first
wispy bay
Havoc is cross server, the game is less popular in other part of the worlds than NA and EU timezone.
nocturne dust
m2 charges slower, but no target needed
lilac summit
same peril consumed?
nocturne dust
m2 very useful when you know enemies are coming but cannot see them
lilac summit
same damage?
lilac summit
ah i c
nocturne dust
because it's slower charge
I mean, m1 locking onto a target can come in handy, but losing the charge if the target dies is... very problematic in current Darktide.
Because BB is very slow.
and BB highlights the target
lilac summit
yeah the headglow is a dinner bell for your teammates
nocturne dust
and your allies have guns
nocturne dust
I would probably recommend just focusing on getting closer rather than bothering
Swap to melee and charge
lilac summit
sometimes you just wanna get out of dodge
also sprinting and sliding while charging brainburst makes me feel badass
nocturne dust
You do you.
nocturne dust
marble crater
Do we know how medpack, ammo crate and stim spawns work?
I had the great opportunity to play the same maelstrom 3 times yesterday and all 3 times I found a medpack and stim in the exact same chest.
Is the spawn the same for everyone for that rotation of the mission on the board, i.e. if 10 teams start the same maelstrom, will the medpack be in the same chest for everyone, or was this just a huge coincidence?
marble crater
Almost perma up, depends on how much it gets shot and how much you kill
verbal thistle
Do we know how medpack, ammo crate and stim spawns work?
I had the *great opport...
Depends on map seed
And chests are random
And chests are random
marble crater
aite, beginning bubble pskyer skill grind
Bubble has 20 HP, each ranged attack takes off 1 HP and then it's immune for 0,33 seconds. So it has a minumum up time of 6,6 seconds before it breaks
torn kernel
With the amount of elites in there tho you'd get another one before it pops anyway
marble crater
Depends on map seed
But everyone gets the same seed while it's on the board?
glacial vapor
Was it pox gas? Might have just been luck + high stim spawns
verbal thistle
No
Seeds are generated before a team lands
This is easily seen if you do solos
Items outside of chests are set and dont change unless you reset the solo, but chests will always be random
marble crater
It was pox gas and it wasn't always the same stim in the chest, but it was very suspicious that the same chest always had a medpack
verbal thistle
To my knowledge certain chests have priority for crates
Usually the bigger ones and close to main path
marble crater
Was one with 3 spaces and on the main path yea
verbal thistle
Sounds about right
marble crater
Well now I know, thanks
Not sure how this would have been useful, if it was the same for everyone, oh well
verbal thistle
Not really helpful outside of solos
marble crater
marble crater
No clue, sorry
left hare
blessings correct?
verbal thistle
blessings correct?
Yes
wispy bay
Decent
Just don't rely on it to push through trash mobs in higher difficulty like with Illisi.
left hare
any funny mortis builds
marble crater
If you get the right archtype, yes
There is an upgrade that applies burn from assail and another that gives you assail if you kill something with assail
left hare
which 1 is easier to wipe the map
marble crater
Between Assail and BB? Assail
torn kernel
Assail definitely
Infinite ammo gunker is fuckin funny tho
Grab a shotgun or somethin
summer prairie
If you can get both BB legendary upgrades (is it possible?), it's pretty funny.
marble crater
BB can kill 10 targets at once, but you still have the cast time, so it's still meh in practice
torn kernel
BB can kill 10 targets at once, but you still have the cast time, so it's still ...
EP + KR
jovial juniper
If you can get both BB legendary upgrades (is it possible?), it's pretty funny.
Yeah you can get 10 BB + Sets everything on fire
left hare
is there anything funny for telekine or smite
marble crater
Shield walls can apply electric damage, smite is just sad
left hare
not feelin the obscuras rn
u have to farm uncanny stacks first to become decent at armor?
am i supposed to special
torn kernel
Nah just click heads
left hare
the combo is heavy swing down, light up then light stab
torn kernel
The only useful force sword special is on the illisi tbh
left hare
feelin like deimos might be better
torn kernel
For single target? Probably
Obscurus is like a weird middle option between them
Can deal with anything and everything if you get used to the combos tho
left hare
pretty high commital st combo tho
upbeat kestrel
Yeah illisi has only usable special from one handers
weary idol
For single target? Probably
nah obscurus takes way less damage amp to kill armor fast
Deimos is better at single target with more investment in normal damage talents
upbeat kestrel
Obscurus os the weird option thats better than the other 2 once aclimatated with
weary idol
I dunno I don't like using it
torn kernel
Not much to see iirc, there's a lot of jank ass camera manipulation involved to get weakspots
upbeat kestrel
Yeah
torn kernel
Gives you motion sickness if you're watching and not playing