psyker-class

[prime elk]

Well you'd have to ignore them to think psyker is squishy. So I made the natural assumption given your position

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn smash crusher

[nocturne dust]

That doesn't follow at all.

[deft stump]

Oggy is not human classes.

[crude cape]

like im getting tossed around in waves of mutants this match, just died, just cant keep my mobility up on dodges to dodge them all lol

[zinc phoenix]

Zealot with powersword can duel crusher packs very well even without holy rev/martyr

[crude cape]

fgs is super fun

i just gotta figure out how to be defensive with it

i crutched knife/ds mobility too long i guess

[zinc phoenix]

Sidestep to avoid them, only dodge at very last second if you can’t sidestep

[deft stump]

I have a knoife. If it's a pack and my teammates are blind, I'll just have to bleed kite for ages.

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is squishy, because squishiness is comparative and every other class can endure more damage. That's a simple calc. Psyker's active defenses to cover their squishiness does not change that.

[prime elk]

It does. Because if you're using your defensive tools, psyker is not squishy at all. The fact that you think it's squishy tells me you're not using your defensive tools.

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️ don’t run knife

Or compensate with other stuff

[prime elk]

Squishiness isn't just a toughness and hp value lmao

[patent steeple]

btw, what perks to run on laspistol for a FGS meleeker build?

[prime elk]

Unless you're a fucking bot

[nocturne dust]

You're conflating active defense with passive defense, squishiness is about passive defense.

[nocturne dust]

kinda is

[crude cape]

psyker has alot of dmg avoidance* mechanics but with no yellow hp built in, and less dr than most classes when you do take a hit, it usually hurts worse

vet has more toughness, ogryn/zealot have way more dr etc

[prime elk]

Ok. You're either playing as a bot. Or you're arguing semantics.

[deft stump]

Nu. I like running around to loot.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, the moment you get slapped on psyker you get slapped

It's ridiculous to think otherwise

[nocturne dust]

No u

[prime elk]

Good thing psyker has a shit ton of other defensive options available

[nocturne dust]

Personal attacks and trying to devolve the argument into "muh semantics", lol

[crude cape]

ya, ofc they do. but when you do take a hit you get hit harder

you'll be able to make less mistakes on psyker and stay up than the other 3 classes, on average

[deft stump]

Alot harder.

[prime elk]

Yes that's true

[nocturne dust]

So you admit they're squishy, because that's what squishy means

[zinc phoenix]

I mean, I play with 150hp and about that toughness and it’s very noticeable compared to classes with about double that

[nocturne dust]

[crude cape]

you guys are just talking past each other lol

[prime elk]

Personal attacks? More like frank observations.

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, you've observed nothing

[deft stump]

Psyker is squishy as if they actually get hit, what hp bar?

[prime elk]

Looks like we have different definitions of squishy and I cbad to continue this

[nocturne dust]

You can't even see the issue is just a matter of your definition of squishiness

[prime elk]

I run one hp curio

[zinc phoenix]

Stam is more useful so I do that and two toughness

[prime elk]

I don't need stam

[zinc phoenix]

But if I miss a dodge I’m probably donezo

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t need hp 💪

[deft stump]

They are tanky in the inf dodge sense if done right.

[nocturne dust]

not really

[patent mango]

how do my buffs not work a t all in vanilla

[nocturne dust]

Any class can have inf dodges

[prime elk]

Or maybe your definition is the issue, seeing how it actively ignores the multiple defensive tools psyker gets outside of raw hp and toughness

[patent mango]

why is there no chatblock

[crude cape]

so, whats the secret to avoiding dmg properly on a fgs build? I think maybe the issue, i cant play as aggressive as I would on a zealot. Like diving headfirsts into waves of dudes. Play cover a little better and chokepoints? stay mobile?

[prime elk]

Yeah I mean whatever works. Stam is good too

[crude cape]

i think im possibly playing too aggro

[nocturne dust]

Except people don't generally include those when using the term

[hearty wolf]

there is

[crude cape]

i had the highest dmg stats BY FAR that AM, but i went down 4 or 5 times, way too high

[zinc phoenix]

Use sidestep and be cognizant that you can’t dive carapace

[nocturne dust]

That's why they call Psyker squishy

[prime elk]

According to who. You?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[patent mango]

in vanilla?

[nocturne dust]

[deft stump]

Not with any weapon. You just gotta crit to be immune to guns.

[crude cape]

like i was 700k dmg to the next guys 300k

[patent steeple]

btw, does Lethal Prox on a Bistol do anything helpful for meleeker, or should I use something else, like Surgical in case I don't have a True Aim shot ready, or maybe Gloryhunter...? (I am actively trying to find a gun that helps with killing crusher/rager packs, as I struggle to not die to them in melee with FGS...)

[hearty wolf]

yeah in vermintide 2

[crude cape]

but downing5 times in an AM is...not acceptable for me, i feel like a noob

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/qoaQxZbRYHk.gif

[hearty wolf]

did you want to type to me

was that it

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️ you have to be more careful with when you engage as meleeker

You have to read fights and pick ones you win and don’t get into fights where you’ll be bogged and unable to flee

[crude cape]

i feel like i fuck up carapace, but is the issue the mobility? You cant dodge or stagger a group of them well enough to duel?

[patent mango]

guh?

[hearty wolf]

you wanted chatblock

[zinc phoenix]

Yes, you run out of dodge and can’t escape because slow

So best to engage from a distance

[patent mango]

yuh im reopening for that mod

[zinc phoenix]

ONE or TWO is fine and easy kill

[deft stump]

Puncture is all that matters. You can cause bleed on the warp slash btw.

[zinc phoenix]

Five or six is eventually death

[patent mango]

idk i just typed in here cause its not in dt yet

lmao

[crude cape]

gotcha, ya getting shot by a gunner/shooter and momentum stopped and targeted by a couple with no cover while meleeing got me a few times.

[zinc phoenix]

Unless you keep them at a distance and gun em down

[zinc phoenix]

Have assail shards up and ping em if they’re shooting or snapshot with gun on approach

[crude cape]

ya, iw as trying to use assail to interrupt but sometimes in a room with too many stalkers and such they just ping you to death lmao

[nocturne dust]

Also, I want to point out that most of psyker's active defenses don't work in a lot of situations and are selective in when they can be used (and have to be used to cover for each other)... unlike shout.

[hearty wolf]

I want to point out we have a spot open

come

[patent steeple]

alright, I guess trying Surgical & Puncture on a Bistol for meleeker wouldn't hurt...

[hearty wolf]

KRUNCH

[patent mango]

am reopening gam

[nocturne dust]

fiiiinnnneeee I'll be a bit

[hearty wolf]

How long is a bit

[nocturne dust]

Idk, 10 mins

[hearty wolf]

kk

[patent mango]

let me in!!!!!!

[deft stump]

Basically, while the slash is in the air, swap to your bistol.

[buoyant maple]

Puncture
Point blank or run&gun

[crude cape]

columnus can deal with rager and maulers right? does ok into flak, but not carapace. will have to dump some ammo tho
its a shame the mobility is what fucks you on crusher packs, bc the VI is like 2-3 shotting them for me its nice

[prime elk]

Why use colum over vraks?

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust if we queued mortis, would we finish before you appear

[patent mango]

why did they change the nameeeeeesss

[prime elk]

Because fuck you that's why

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-pierun102-monk-rain-world-monk-rain-world-explode-gif-7916261639787340447

[prime elk]

Some of the name changes really do feel like that

[patent mango]

new havoc is fun btw

from the bit we just played

really is just the abysmal derank slop that ruins it

strawhat save us!!!!!

[marble crater]

You it's not exactly fun with the fear of the entire team deranking and then having to win again to be where they started

[hearty wolf]

I think derank is okay methink unless you plan to be on a 30 losing streak

idek what happened on that run there

people just began dropping

[patent mango]

idk lo

[patent mango]

it ruins any funny meme runs

that i wanna try

[hearty wolf]

meme but be good

become best memer

[hardy coral]

if only there was a keybinding i could add that makes me not get stuck in a loading screen when loading out of a mission.

[nocturne dust]

no

[hearty wolf]

ok

[nocturne dust]

I'm already here

[hearty wolf]

where

[blissful solar]

there might be. you can use the disconnect mod and type /dis or bind it to something

[marble crater]

[nocturne dust]

Loading screen

[hearty wolf]

what

the

FUCK

[nocturne dust]

I'm in a loading screen 😭

[hearty wolf]

:spb

[nocturne dust]

Don't bug me bro

k I'm out

and I can't see you online

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045849643352862721

@patent mango if you wanna

[marble crater]

Void is getting cyber bullied, damn

[novel swallow]

Just started playing Darktide and my friend is really into Psyker and she doesn't want to play anything else. lol Probably is she dies.....like a lot. Can someone recommend a tanky build she can learn Psyker on without spending so much time on the floor?

[deft stump]

Psykers are not really tanky in the way you think.

Even vets can get away with more bs in melee, not counting gold toughness on VoC.

[novel swallow]

fair, I knew it was kind of the glass cannon class

[marble crater]

There are some builds pinned, Voidblast and Inferno are pretty safe, imo. They can both stagger almost everything in melee range

[deft stump]

But inferno is a later unlock.

I'm assuming her char is probs not 30 yet.

And staffs kinda suck before they are maxed.

[marble crater]

Best thing is to get good at melee, that reduces the number of deaths by a lot

[novel swallow]

Oh, no she's 30

[prime elk]

Laughs in deflector, kinetic deflection, bubble, EE, mettle, DD, anticipation, etc etc

[twilit orchid]

Is it best to go full psyker gear? Or should you have weapons that are on and off the power grid

[deft stump]

Oh, that makes things easier... kinda.

[long wharf]

a great psyker can be nearly impossible to kill

[deft stump]

You don't know how mechanically good someone is.

[marble crater]

There are builds that use a gun instead of staves, depends on what you want to play really

[long wharf]

but they are absolutely glass cannons

[jovial juniper]

Best I can do is Soulstealer and One With The Warp

[marble crater]

Watch me

[prime elk]

I'm just dropping some hints on where psyker surv comes from.

[long wharf]

I did clarify via "great"

[prime elk]

Not so subtle hints

[marble crater]

[long wharf]

I'm having more fun with ogryn right now anyways

[formal stump]

What blessings/perks/stats we want for bolt and las pistols? Atheneum says it's outdated and I haven't found anything new in the pins

[long wharf]

started my OnlySlaps account and everything

[deft stump]

Ain't everyone? I just play ammo dispenser nowadays.

[long wharf]

having an ammo dispenser is handy

for when I go gunlugger and wanna shoot all the bullets

[prime elk]

Laspistol is dumdum and ghost/desperado

[earnest sand]

Not Frontlining while learning psyker is also helpful. Gotta get used to being able to dip out before you get dipped on

[formal stump]

And dump is what? I assume mobility?

[prime elk]

Me always charging ahead as gunker

[verbal thistle]

Mob or stability if you don't use ads

[prime elk]

Err. Stability should work too, idr

[marble crater]

When in doubt run to the ogryn

[deft stump]

Is nice not having to do stuff between tryharding because ppl more incompetent than me happen.

[verbal thistle]

Stability only effects ads

So if you don't use it you can dump it

[novel swallow]

@deft stumpWould you say Inferno staff if is the best choice if they want to use a staff and need help with staying safe?

[formal stump]

I barely have masteries on it so I'm either buying this prebuilt or starting from 0 xd

[prime elk]

Honestly I doubt it's even noticeable there unless you're countersniping

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

[formal stump]

Seems good enough

[verbal thistle]

Barely chances from60 to 80

[prime elk]

Yeah this is fine. You don't NEED a perfect roll

[formal stump]

What about Bolt pistol? Just so happens there's a similar one but with collateral as dump

[deft stump]

Trauma better if she can get used to it. Burga easier. Have her use a force sword as well with deflector.

[long wharf]

the absolute best way to get better survivability as a psyker is to learn how to play melee better

[novel swallow]

Thanks 🙂

[long wharf]

situational awareness is absolutely mandatory

[deft stump]

Panic pull out melee to block shots.

[prime elk]

Hmm I forget bistol dump

[verbal thistle]

Collateral or mob

[formal stump]

Melee is mandatory for having fun, because fun is cleaving a horde with 2h force sword special

[marble crater]

Another good way to get better is not to panic

[earnest sand]

I dumped stability on my bistol but I don't notice stability much on controller

[deft stump]

Do not let her try FGS until she gets better in melee. That thing had no real dodges.

[prime elk]

The greatest contribution FGS has made to the game: making psykers use their melee

[deft stump]

Shush you, I played old H40 full panic all the time.

[nocturne dust]

Fun is burning them all

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[formal stump]

TBH Psyker always had extremely satisfying melee at least for me, I loved popping people with force sword specials and stabby stabby dueling sword when the game came out

[earnest sand]

Maybe one day warp slash can apply blaze 😦

[formal stump]

Gonna have to check out if the animation lock special is still in the game cuz I've been grinding the 2h masteries

[deft stump]

Oh yeah, the other reason is blocking is slower on the FGS. So normal warp resist dump force sword.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/martinlutherking-ihaveadream-gif-4834306

[novel swallow]

@deft stumplmao, funny, when you said force sword, I was like oh Fgs, that thing is amazing.....glad you clearified lmao

[prime elk]

[zinc phoenix]

You can’t get interrupted when doing bigslash from fgs so it’s worth using to interrupt in those situations. Idk, meleeker is a build with a gazillion tools and lots of subtle additional usages for all of em

Very fun class

[deft stump]

It is, but it's not good if she can't really melee well? Best go with the faster one with better dodges for now.

Take it slow and easy first.

[zinc phoenix]

Had a mael just now with three oggy, think it was sycorax where you have to go scan a billion things in a big room. two dipped at the end event when they went down so it was just me and another dude and two bots and the director wildin

Good times

I like bistol’s heavy impact but man does it suck when you whiff a shot 😂

[novel swallow]

Makes sense

[zinc phoenix]

Laspistol is ready immediately

Run n gun feelin pretty good with how I play

[deft stump]

Because if she runs a staff, the FGS means little to no mobility.

Some players can do it, but I won't suggest it to everyone tbh.

[zinc phoenix]

Zap stick works pretty good with fgs

Helps you deal with the big dogs

[zinc phoenix]

I mean carapace stuff

[formal stump]

Zap stick, smite, vent shriek and fgs

[zinc phoenix]

And ofc zaps specials

[deft stump]

It's less safe than Trauma or Burga though.

[formal stump]

I've tried brain burst and I honestly barely find a use for it, at least on the level I'm playing at

[earnest sand]

Being able to stop a crusher by giving them electro therapy is pretty safe though

[formal stump]

Never a good time to cast and opportunity cost of not taking smite/assail hurts me

[novel swallow]

Burga?

[deft stump]

You could also bully with Trauma.

[prime elk]

It's... not good. Despite what fatshart thinks, assail wasn't the weakest psyker blitz

[deft stump]

Purga/Inferno.

[novel swallow]

Ahh thanks 😄

[deft stump]

Trauma is VoidBlast.

[deft stump]

It's the one needing the buff tbh.

[zinc phoenix]

It’s quite good, I’ve seen some very good psykers do extremely impressive stuff with it

[novel swallow]

What's EE and DD here? I looked up the other things.

[formal stump]

Vet magdumping 3 bulwarks with his bolter while I charge up my ultimate move to wound one like damn dragon ball character

[zinc phoenix]

Like when I see a psyker who is hard carrying 9/10 times they’re a bb enjoyer

[marble crater]

Empathic Evasion and Disrupt Destiny

[zinc phoenix]

Empathic evasion and disrupt destiny. But like he’s over egging it massively. Psyker is by far the most movement and placement dependent for survivability. The lethality is off the charts but if you’re in the wrong spot for a second too long you are dead

[formal stump]

If you have any videos of BB being utilized well in any high difficulty I'd love to see it

because I have no idea how and when to use it correctly

[earnest sand]

Bb is nice on inferno also

[zinc phoenix]

I’m not a video person but I’ve seen it used well in auric mael and high havoc

[novel swallow]

@marble crater@zinc phoenix Thanks

[prime elk]

Empathetic evasion (broken op) and disrupt destiny (mostly offensive but provides substantial speed boosts during combat)

[marble crater]

Use it for snipers and specials, that's it

[earnest sand]

Or the sneaky gunners trying to hide

[prime elk]

Uhh it's ok with kinetic flayer purg

[marble crater]

or those

[prime elk]

But that's not really using BB so to speak

[earnest sand]

I enjoy BB personally

[zinc phoenix]

Mix it with shriek and use warp charges + the trait that speeds up applying it, bb the priority targets. Mix it all up with wildfire and it becomes very efficient

You again have to be good at the fundamentals of psyker survival tho

with a shriek build you generally want to be running ds of some kind to have good mobility

Or knife

More than any class psyker relies on “simply don’t be hit” and all our survivability tools are built to make doing that easier

[prime elk]

Don't get hit, but if you do, make sure you have bubble/KD/deflector

So there's layers of defense

You can pick and choose what defenses you want

[zinc phoenix]

I’m leaning more and more towards not taking KD

The only use I have for it is boss dueling

[prime elk]

I don't take it yeah

Hence no stamina

[zinc phoenix]

I run stam which makes me infinite block with it

[prime elk]

Best not to get hit to begin with

[zinc phoenix]

I may just pick up deflector again

[prime elk]

Something something survivability onion

[deft stump]

Is why I suggested FS over FGS. Better mobility with a staff.

[zinc phoenix]

I mean but then why not go all the way to ds or knife

If you’re staff primary

[deft stump]

Deflector.

[marble crater]

Because they are so strong they don't teach good habits

[deft stump]

I have no idea how bad or good mechanically wise.

[deft stump]

Fine. Just run knoife on everything and never take KD.

[zinc phoenix]

Mehflector

[formal stump]

Oh lawd I tried las pistol

[raven mountain]

This is the way. Stab it all. Ride the edge until you fuck up and get killed. Don't need wounds because you're just gonna outright die.

[formal stump]

Not the weapon for me to be diplomatic

[deft stump]

That's just what I do on Vet anyway.

[zinc phoenix]

Wounds are pointless when you could stack EHP

[raven mountain]

It's a worse reconlas but it is more mobile and faster swap.

[zinc phoenix]

Ok ima try recon las tranq thru slaughter boss deletion 😂

[deft stump]

You need fullauto or turbo controller.

[raven mountain]

Ehp is pointless when you stab everything and dive too far because you can, and then you mess up.

You're either basically totally healthy, or you fucked up and get downed, and are invariably too deep to save.

Only way to knoife.

Stab more.

If you can't stab, voidblast it to the floor so you can stab more.

[deft stump]

Vet just has more get out of jail things. Like dropping 3 frags to kill anything that isn't an oggy.

[raven mountain]

Yeah. Voidblast functions like a mini frag with no ammunition.

Gives you that same functionality.

[deft stump]

And shout.

[raven mountain]

Don't have that.

[deft stump]

Or infil.

[raven mountain]

Just have stab and stab with more crits.

But more crits is more toughness and more EE

So more stabs and more crits IS your defense!

[zinc phoenix]

I mean “don’t dive bad situations like a mong” is generally the way to go I think

[raven mountain]

But then you aren't stabbing and you may as well play normal psyker.

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️

[raven mountain]

Gets old after a couple hundred, thousand, whatever hours.

Gotta do fun or funni. Is only way.

[deft stump]

Funni best though.

[young oracle]

Is aquiring the voidblast staff a good choice?

[marble crater]

Yes, it's fun, strong and very much one of the meta and best weapons

Though since you are asking I assume you are still at a low level, in which case the answer is no, because the staff needs high level stats to be all those things

[young oracle]

oh

yeah

im level 4 currently

so youre saying i should put it off for the time being?

[marble crater]

Yeah, you can ignore the staves for another 10 to 15 levels, sadly.

[young oracle]

Ahh, thats a shame

[marble crater]

Your best friend during leveling will be the Assail shards on the right, they are fun and strong too

[zinc phoenix]

Pick up any gun, assail and an axe

Use the axe on carapace stuff

Use the gun on whatever

Use assail on everything else

[earnest sand]

Force combat knife please make it do a lil force stab , 😈

[young oracle]

Rn im using a blaze force sword cause i feel cool every time i charge it with warp energy🙏

Thanks for the advice tho ill be sure to make use of it

[marble crater]

That's a very good reason and force swords are also great and meta in late game

[young oracle]

Meta?

[marble crater]

Short for most effective tactics available, aka what's being used most often because it's one of the best things to use

[young oracle]

ahhh

i get it, so its like a wave right? changes per update?

[marble crater]

Rarely, sometimes yeah

[young oracle]

Cool

[upper sun]

"most effective tactics available,"

WHAT

SINCE WHEN

META IS SHORT FOR SOMETHING

[marble crater]

This guy...

[young oracle]

Ive always though people were refering to facebook, lol

[marble crater]

Go back to playing marty

[upper sun]

i just woke up

[marble crater]

[formal stump]

Now you can join the people in the know

[marble crater]

It's 8pm

[formal stump]

and laugh at others who say "meta doesn't exist"

[upper sun]

and i slept 6 hours yesterday

[marble crater]

what are you doing

[elder glade]

did you honestly not know that that was what meta was short for

[upper sun]

yes

[elder glade]

Thats understandable

[radiant frigate]

what the fuck

[marble crater]

how many people didn't know

[radiant frigate]

first time hearing this

[elder glade]

[summer prairie]

it's not

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not, it’s a backronym

[upper sun]

🚬 we got trolled

[young oracle]

it does make sense tho

[crude cape]

idk, it might be vraks, they changed the names and i dont know anymore, i just remember it was the columnus i think

[upper sun]

i believe thats called a confirmation bias

[radiant frigate]

was it later declared to be short for something

ergo, backronym

[upper sun]

i hate vraks so much

that forgeworld makes nothing but slop

how dare they take ciag........

[radiant frigate]

we live in a society 🚬

[crude cape]

ya, been having fun. it is a bit tough to play in clutch and carry situations, but the dmg output is nutty. Not the most impressive clip and ignore me getting smacked by bruisers in the beginning, was tunnel visioning on big sword dmg lol but had some good moments with it so far chekc out the clip had some nasty special slashes (this is auric maelstrom)

[young oracle]

Full of treacherous heretics

[marble crater]

[formal stump]

I don't think Vraks is a forgeworld

[young oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer40k-vraks-siege-of-vraks-death-korps-gif-20931228

[young oracle]

it was an armoury storage for the Imperium, no?

[upper sun]

fall of vraks best day of my life

[analog agate]

Meta definitely means two different things

[upper sun]

not even a good forgeworld just a storage house for SLOP

[analog agate]

It was a struggle explaining it to my parents

[prime elk]

Yeah they renamed yet to vraks now because reasons

[formal stump]

SO EVEN WORSE

[marble crater]

I didn't know it was a backronym, but I stand by what I wrote because it's still 99% correct

[upper sun]

you just need to post a bit more to get embed rights

[analog agate]

It is actually annoying someone started using meta for the most effective things and then fit it to an acronym

[crude cape]

ya makes no sense, but w/e.
posted a clip of an ok run i had after the build advice, i still take too much dmg with it and need to learn my defensive tools better but man, those fgs slashes are dopamine lol
#psyker-class message

[strong gulch]

hi

[marble crater]

hi

[strong gulch]

hi

[marble crater]

hi

[elder glade]

hi

[clear heath]

I believe it's a backryonym that was made after it was already frequently used in gaming communities as "meta-gaming". Meta is an actual real word/prefix that tends to either mean something self referential or something derived from outside of whatever you're talking about.
In meta-gaming's case, it's the later, where it's just gaming using strats based on things outside the game like irl information, knowledge of popular strategies, etc

[upper sun]

hi

[clear heath]

My guess is "knowledge of popular strategies" being referred to as meta-gaming just turned into "top tier strategies = meta" over time and people eventually made the acronym

[strong gulch]

hi

[strong gulch]

hi

[clear heath]

hi

[strong gulch]

hi

it's a command now lmao

[elder glade]

hi

[upper sun]

@plucky flax btw crunch description is wrong its not 15% damage its 30%

u should give it a try

[plucky flax]

Hmm I don't like to full charge heavy. 😦

[jovial juniper]

Just don't

Crunch is thrust lite now

[plucky flax]

Crunch needs to be fully charge?

[jovial juniper]

Not anymore it seems

[upper sun]

it has stacks now

[long wharf]

so Crunch is now Thrust?

[clear heath]

how many times does it stack?

[upper sun]

even if you cast the heavy asap you still get 1-2 stacks now

[plucky flax]

[long wharf]

slap it on shield

[plucky flax]

I will have to try that actually.

[clear heath]

is it 3 stacks like thrust is now?

[upper sun]

yes

[plucky flax]

Sounds good for my mk1 club bonking

[upper sun]

but crunch is 4 stacks

[long wharf]

oh lord

[plucky flax]

I'll try it when I'm home on friday.

Thanks for tip good sir.

I dunno what to remove though.

[long wharf]

now my Slapaholic can thrust the bully club?

[plucky flax]

Probably some damage reduction node.

[upper sun]

peak

[formal stump]

I'm a bolter enjoyer

[copper jay]

What happened ?

[formal stump]

Dare I even say Bolter Enthusiast

Bolter aficionado

[upper sun]

after game i can post my build

[marble crater]

I think it's bigger now

[plucky flax]

Okay thanks tag me again so I can find it easily.

[copper jay]

This is ... a good thing no ?

[hearty wolf]

Gloriana easiest map

[marble crater]

Not if you barrel your team by accident

[patent mango]

whar mod is this

ovenproof?

ovenproof still works?

imma get itt back then

fr? ok

[nocturne dust]

totally-accurate dmg numbers, trust

[marble crater]

How did my entire team barrel itself then? Two left and then I had to clutch with bots until 2 new people joined and replaced them

[hearty wolf]

.

[patent mango]

virus link i shall get it

[hot hamlet]

that's because game is warning you to join me

[hearty wolf]

idk but failed the other maps constantly

second we change to gloriana

clean sweep

[copper jay]

People can join in Havoc ?

[nocturne dust]

that's cuz the spawning was weird

[marble crater]

Was earlier today, so you are not at fault

[hot hamlet]

but still you should join lmao

[marble crater]

I'm still in procrastination mode

[proper osprey]

Aw sweet ip grabber

[analog agate]

An invisible force wayyyy past the blast radius sets off barrels. Meaning. You are going to pop every, EVERY barrel in the map. Whether you want to or not

[copper jay]

I wanted to be a hidden boost to VB ...

[upper sun]

i only take block taunt on shield hard knocks for steady grip if you have a braced weapon (its very op)

[mental grail]

Someone needs to talk to sefoni

If she keeps moaning in my ear like that heretical things will happen ong

[mental grail]

brainworms

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[plucky flax]

Damn this build kinda sus

[upper sun]

its very based

[granite mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-invincible-conquest-heart-love-you-invincible-gif-16830902008122765368

[plucky flax]

I'll modify mine to have crunch tho

If it gives stacks even with fast heavy attack it'd be nice

[granite mauve]

crunch so good

i love having thrust without having it

[patent mango]

peak tide gaming

[nocturne dust]

well now my recording has no audio after I tried to fix the audio

[hearty wolf]

I keep watching it and it keeps making me laugh

[nocturne dust]

oh wait

when I export it from Steam it has audio

wtf Steam

anyway, here's my pov

is very quiet tho

which I knew would happen

[jovial juniper]

Still hilarious though

[patent mango]

oh my g od

the aoe thing would make it so easy to see them

lmao

[nocturne dust]

why can't Steam recording just be normal 😭

[proper osprey]

Please go back to the broken audio

It’s so funny

[nocturne dust]

yeh, is why I got it

doesn't always work tho

[patent mango]

oof

[nocturne dust]

no u

[proper osprey]

[analog agate]

How were bosses for you guys yesterday? They are the downfall of the groups I play with @nocturne dust @strong gulch @hearty wolf

[nocturne dust]

still the downfall today

Every single one of our wipes was to 3 bosses spawning at once

[hearty wolf]

It's specifically twins + other boss that's eh

[strong gulch]

Yesterday wasn't bad, but we had multiple people who could do something about em.

[nocturne dust]

and that's saying something, cuz I played awfully first match

Yeah, we probs need to adjust comp

Having a thammer is great for single bosses, but really can't do much when multiple are running around

especially since a horde of elites always spawns with them

[hearty wolf]

I'm using revolver and knives as my primaries really so like, thammer is the utility

[nocturne dust]

[hearty wolf]

Like 1 boss should always be deleted instantly, even if there is multiple

[nocturne dust]

How dare u

[nocturne dust]

Yet it never is 😭

[hearty wolf]

especially the captains

35k only

but something people want to attack it so it puts its shield back up

[nocturne dust]

I was thinking of running a stunlock ogryn since I heard they can do that on bosses again

[hearty wolf]

Honestly Twins aren't bad to kill either, just need to focus the gas one first

or move

that one where we were against the wall constantly setting off the mines was very ??

should have just walked out

[nocturne dust]

we were fine for a good bit

we walked out and then died

The only issue there was nobody was taking care of the gunners and all I had for that was BB

and BB is 💀

[analog agate]

The truly successful ones we did was an ogryn would hold off the clubby/toxic twin and we would bubble up and focus on sword twin

[nocturne dust]

yeah, we did that on the one successful run we had

but it's hard for oggie to grab aggro sometimes

[hearty wolf]

I was but I'm spending so much time reloading and I focused a reaper so -3 shots

[nocturne dust]

Zarona moment

[hearty wolf]

But since I was doing the gunners

couldn't kill the bosses

but if I go for the bosses, the gunners would kill me

what do

[nocturne dust]

I had bubble up

[analog agate]

Bubble and positioning. We would retreat quite often

[nocturne dust]

If we stayed there and ogryn just plopped shield and held aggro, would've been fine

[hearty wolf]

ye for some reason we retreated into a dead end xd

void do you have

the clip

[nocturne dust]

Panick retreating can be worse than not moving

[analog agate]

Ya… that sucks

[nocturne dust]

We were against an elevator

[hearty wolf]

Oh 100%

[nocturne dust]

It was forward or death

[analog agate]

That is why I always take VB now. Cause people panick and get cornered with no way out

[nocturne dust]

probs

[nocturne dust]

eh, VB never helps imo

I don't need to stagger anything but bosses and really far enemies

and VB does neither

[hearty wolf]

Either way just disgruntled with how many we lost. I don't even think I played badly. Could have done a bit better I suppose.

[nocturne dust]

the lmb helps but Inferno's dmg more than makes up for it

[hearty wolf]

That last run was pure bs tho

spawn teleporting

[analog agate]

🤷‍♂️ I play VB differently I guess

[hearty wolf]

I hate how you can manipulate spawn locations in general tho

the fact you can just backtrack is so lame

[nocturne dust]

Also, the last match I didn't even take damage except from an insta-pounce insta-corruption hound and the end when I died to cspawn grab + double boss munch 😭

[analog agate]

We wiped mostly from bullshit bugged rituals. THAT is annoying

[strong gulch]

Different skill issues. Why dodge when VB. 😭

[nocturne dust]

like, VB would've not helped at all

in fact it would've made things worse

PC did work that match

and Inferno stacking 15 before it pops off really helps

I also switched from PF to Nexus 😔

which is better not because damage but because EE

[analog agate]

I have not had any problems with gunners in current havoc. Not sure why you guys are

[nocturne dust]

I feel like they're better at lasering me now

They hit in a shorter burst and do less damage, but I as a psyker still drop toughness to a single burst so really it's just I lose toughness quicker 😭

But I adjusted to fix that, I was just dropping defense nodes

I don't do that anymore, but I had to drop BM and KF which does hurt my dmg output

[summer prairie]

if you don't have yellow toughness, EE or bubble, it's a bit rough

[nocturne dust]

yep

I did have bubble, but I just don't have a solution to ranged on Inferno so they pop it and then kill me anyway if I can't find cover in time

[analog agate]

reapers are (or feel like) hitscan. Gunners I haven’t had a problem or noticed

[nocturne dust]

and generally I find cover that barely doesn't protect me and get lasered, lmao

[nocturne dust]

Really? Reapers are way less of a concern for me, lmao

I also haven't been running gunner resist, maybe that would help

[analog agate]

Then again. I am playing VB and everything is on the ground. Mostly

[nocturne dust]

I mean, maybe VB would help create space and keep my team alive

[timid pond]

did i do it? i feel like i did it. X-D

[nocturne dust]

but then I can't proc EE well or just murder things with Inferno

like bosses, which are a major concern

In fact, I think bosses are the only real concern rn, gunners are problematic but not really to me after I changed my loadout into something a tad more defensive

[nocturne dust]

yes?

Staves don't really want to dump warp res harder than 60

but you should keep it I guess

[rich spindle]

unlucky bad boss spawns are what end most of my havocs

[analog agate]

I don’t run EE

[summer prairie]

well it's not very good with trauma

[nocturne dust]

Well yeh, you run VB

[analog agate]

Live on the edge

[rich spindle]

I would take trauma over purg if there was red + purple mod

[strong gulch]

SG trauma with nexus is decent at poccing EE, but uhhhh

[sharp kraken]

What's the general consensus on the 2 handed psychic sword?

[strong gulch]

good

[rich spindle]

good

[timid pond]

it's a thing. you run single digit warp resistance so you can build peril fast enough to dump max stacks on vent cooldown.

[upper sun]

the more i play this game the more i realize BoN needs to be deleted from the game

[sharp kraken]

Okay, good. I really don't like 2 handed weapons, so hopefully I'm not missing out too much by not using it

[strong gulch]

You don't need single digit for that. 🫡

But yee we know

[cinder moon]

trying to kite slug puppy so teammates can shoot it, but the only teammate still up is chasing me trying to stimm me for no fucking reason, so neither of us do any meaningful damage

[strong gulch]

If we were allowed a salt shaker, we could just get rid of the slug.

[nocturne dust]

No staff needs that

[marble crater]

Play THammer and delete it yourself

[upper sun]

no

[cinder moon]

meanwhile pbb rumbler ogryn: "observe"

[spice flame]

Thammer psyker lezgo

[nocturne dust]

I'm aware some people do it, but in the event you trigger Psykinetics enough that somehow dumped warp res actually helps, enemies will already be either dead or walking around with death about to happen due to PC

[rich spindle]

rumbler spam goes insane in havoc

[timid pond]

as low as possible is godrolled from what i understand. 76 min on burn, 80 cloud, 80 dmg.

[rich spindle]

probably the best build

[cinder moon]

rumbler spam is amazing. i've gotten it to proc lucky bullet 6 times in a row a few times

you can even still proc lucky bullet with literally no ammo

[rich spindle]

lol

[nocturne dust]

Well, you can use it if you like. Me, I just take off Empyric Resolve on Inferno, that's better for your toughness anyway

[rich spindle]

it was applying bleed + flame too on everything in radius

[strong gulch]

It's a playstyle but not meta.

[sharp kraken]

Is obscurus force sword still the worst one with not being good at either CC or single enemy damage?

[strong gulch]

That being said, some people (like me) de better with consistency and don't always play the same staves with the same builds.

Adjusting WR and ER can help a lot with that.

[nocturne dust]

@hearty wolf 'paid a corruption tax'
speak for yourself

[jovial juniper]

Got buffed
It can deal tons of damage once you get the combos

[nocturne dust]

[sharp kraken]

That's great, it's so nice to see so many weapons being at least okay now

[jovial juniper]

https://youtube.com/shorts/CfQvmicdYoM?si=BJa8NJPcQsds25Yi

[strong gulch]

ALSO, if you in particular consistently don't have peril up for shriek, that's sometimes a timing issue or you can dump WR harder.

Single digit WR is not needed. WR is dumped because it doesn't do as much as the other stats. So sacrificing other stats for super low WR isn't great.

[marble crater]

Not me taking KD in every build

[nocturne dust]

I still prefer deimos to obscurus

[strong gulch]

KD consistency

[nocturne dust]

Also this moment

Mesmerizing jitter

[upper sun]

fatshark is on its way to make their own path of balance

make 3 marks of a weapon
make 2 good and one SHIT
then buff the shit one to where it overshadows the 2 good ones

[nocturne dust]

Obscurus doesn't tho?

I mean it overshadows Illisi but I never liked Illisi and thought it was overshadowed by Deimos anyway

[jovial juniper]

Illisi slander

[nocturne dust]

Illisi is trash

[jovial juniper]

Bold words for someone in better cleave damage distribution distance

[upper sun]

illisi is ass

[nocturne dust]

Sorry, cleave damage distribution? What's that?

[jovial juniper]

[nocturne dust]

I just have this infinite cleave staff

[upper sun]

illisi is kinda shit without DD and attack speed node

[jovial juniper]

I get it, you guys use Deimos and Obscurus
Y'all don't have cdd

Poor souls

[nocturne dust]

combustible devious dirigibles?

[jovial juniper]

Certified Double Dribbling

[nocturne dust]

Also

Lag saved me for once

[jovial juniper]

Dog Jumpscare

[nocturne dust]

And live proof of bot sabotaging me

[cinder moon]

nice h265 embed

[nocturne dust]

Nothing of note happened here.

[strong gulch]

I use illisi with EK and fire meme sword.

[nocturne dust]

If you can't tell, I remembered the hotkey to timestamp Steam Recordings

[strong gulch]

I made the meme just to use it more.

[nocturne dust]

So bad it's good

[upper sun]

FIX BOTS NOW

ngl

id actually leave the game if that happened to me

[nocturne dust]

was Havoc

No leave

[upper sun]

i would legit tag julia directly and report it as a bug

"there is no way the good devs at fatshark would let this happen..... has to be a bug"

[nocturne dust]

I give you permission to do it

[upper sun]

not my problem!!!

[nocturne dust]

It is.

It could happen to you.

https://tenor.com/view/it-could-literally-be-any-one-of-us-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-magnificent-flawless-excellent-gif-15530264189911013047

[upper sun]

i dont play havoc

im safe!!!!

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Havoc has nothing to do with a bot burstering you

[upper sun]

yeah but its less impactful in auric

[nocturne dust]

until you get launched over a ledge

[upper sun]

fine

if it happens to MOI ill report it

[nocturne dust]

Only a matter of time

https://tenor.com/view/hahahaha-gif-27342590

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

@marble crater Oggy juggle is still funny.

[safe cloud]

Can mastery point allocation be reset?

[jovial juniper]

No

But you get all points at 20 mastery

[safe cloud]

Ahh so no big deal then.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, you unlock everything eventually so no need to reset

[jovial juniper]

Yeah ultimately not a big deal

[marble crater]

Still feel bad for him too

[upper sun]

hes literally me

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust

@strong gulch

[nocturne dust]

@hearty wolf

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch

[nocturne dust]

y we pinging

[hearty wolf]

Game

[nocturne dust]

We just had game

[hearty wolf]

we have more now

round 2

last one was bad rng seed

[nocturne dust]

0/10 you didn't get the quote

[hearty wolf]

cos ur audio wasn't fixed

:(

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-second-breakfast-gif-7194616

[hearty wolf]

come

i'm r

[nocturne dust]

fiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnneeeeeeeeee

[hearty wolf]

:)

@strong gulch

[nocturne dust]

it is tho

[hearty wolf]

u said it wasn't

[nocturne dust]

I also said apparently it was and it was just very quiet

which is what I expected

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042858600785260656

[nocturne dust]

Because I use Equalizer APO to drop volume by 30 decibels, and that gets caught in the recording

[strong gulch]

Kk otw

[nocturne dust]

Maybe I go bibble zealot

[proper osprey]

Show the build

[lone ravine]

WAIT

THEY DID IT

EK STAFF NO LONGER HAS EXTRA MASTERY POINTS

🔥

[analog agate]

Yes it does

[analog agate]

Oh, that’s new. They just previously made it so the dot isn’t there but the points still were

[upper sun]

WE DID IT
(we did not do it)
(fatshark told the UI "if all blessings acquired give -4 points")

[lone ravine]

😭

[marble crater]

Why does the most unimpressive thing still feel cool to do on psyker?

[cinder moon]

mad cackling

[cinder moon]

i had the dot on mine until this last hotfix

[pine tundra]

my smite is glitched

cant use it

able to use everything else

[wind spruce]

How is it glitched

[pine tundra]

Like I cant swap to it

can swap weapons and use F

[marble crater]

It's a feature, not a bug

[analog agate]

Rebind it and see if it is your mnk

[wind spruce]

Have you checked your keybinds lol

[pine tundra]

rebind to 3

not working still

[strong gulch]

Restart you game

maybe that will fix it

[midnight cove]

what blessings does one run on fgs?

[marble crater]

Wrath plus anything that's not blazing spirit or warp slice

[raven mountain]

wrath, riposte, precog, unstable power. Could even run Deflector if you felt the need, I guess.

[midnight cove]

was debating riposte or unstable

[dull scroll]

it's not smite, it's all blitz

[raven mountain]

I go back and forth. Some builds sit at high peril a lot, like scrier's. Others are a bit more balanced in their peril use, like a shriek build.

[dull scroll]

something is going on, once bugged you can't switch to blitz

have to restart game

[raven mountain]

High peril often gets UP, other builds get riposte.

[dull scroll]

happened to me quite a few times

[raven mountain]

If you get disabled in game some way, then it's fixed.

Mutie, dog, net, down, I think

[dull scroll]

is that what it is 😒

[raven mountain]

If it's the same issue as yesterday or the day before.

[earnest sand]

I've had that issue also one that shows your character in a "operative selection" causing you not to be able to join games. Other buddy on console had this also only way to fix was restart. It's the late April fools patch from fatshark

[marble crater]

So we all play BB with flayer until it's fixed, yes?

[earnest sand]

Already done BB all day Baby

[raven mountain]

Yeah, I saw a guy that had to do that every match. Close program, and reopen.

[marble crater]

Oh no

[steady yarrow]

Does Penetration of the Soul work now?

[proper osprey]

Yup

[marble crater]

We did it!

[rich spindle]

Does it apply to soulblaze 🤔

[nocturne dust]

@hearty wolf

Bibble bad, clearly

@hearty wolf look at your boss damage and it will explain

[strong gulch]

lmao

wtf is that boss damage

[nocturne dust]

Game spawns so many, thammer just goes bbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrr

[marble crater]

I wish I could play hammer

[nocturne dust]

I love it but it is incredibly annoying when you miss the hit

[radiant frigate]

thomder hamemr

one morbillion boss damage

[hearty wolf]

Why can't you

[marble crater]

What

[marble crater]

Too noob

[hearty wolf]

it's ez weapon

[marble crater]

Maybe because I haven't played more than like 10 games as zealot in the past several months

[hearty wolf]

ah

Well!

Zealot ez!

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf @nocturne dust @livid spear

[marble crater]

I tried hammer the other day, it was embarrassing, Potato was there

[nocturne dust]

We seem to only be able to pass Gloriana 💀

[strong gulch]

I don't remeber

[wheat seal]

we can play normal game to complete this? don't understand anything to play this event

[marble crater]

Good

[blissful solar]

must be mortis, it says so

[nocturne dust]

You need to play Mortis, which you access by talking to Sefoni

[marble crater]

(Sefoni is the moaning lady)

[nocturne dust]

They wouldn't know that if they haven't played Mortis

[jovial juniper]

Voice Director contacting the VA and going "Yeah we need moans"

[marble crater]

"I want Sefoni's bath water in a jar as a weapon charm."

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-dazed-unbearable-weight-massive-talent-pedro-pascal-gif-15280745598034380181

[marble crater]

Not complaining

[long wharf]

is the blitz bug frequent?

[marble crater]

I didn't know there was one until people pointed it out here

[wispy bay]

New account, which bug?

[marble crater]

and I played a few games of Gunker and normal staff

[marble crater]

Apparently there is a bug where you can't change to your Blitz, need to restart the game to fix it

[wispy bay]

So that means a soft ban to smite?

[long wharf]

the opposite

[marble crater]

Yes, we are all playing BB with flayer now

[long wharf]

if you never switch off of it, you won't be able to be locked off of it

[marble crater]

Oh no

[summer prairie]

allegedly pressing tab (tactical overlay) fixes it

[marble crater]

We have the weirdest bug fixes

[summer prairie]

it can affect any blitz anyway

[jovial juniper]

Real

And it's hilarious

[summer prairie]

the overlay probably causes the bug

[marble crater]

Does it affect throwing knives? You don't switch to them to use them

[summer prairie]

ok almost any blitz

[marble crater]

Well wouldn't surprise me if it just didn't throw a knife

[fiery stratus]

Anyone wanna drag me through heresy or something?

[marble crater]

this looks to be a smyker in the making

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/i-m-villain-gif-8105801559398118233

[marble crater]

I can tomorrow, now I am already watching Reacher

[fiery stratus]

i'm sure i wont max tonight, i'll be around earlier in the day tomorrow

i'm gonna make a smite build, but mostly im gonna turn this into a staff only psyker for the hell of it

https://tenor.com/view/excited-fuego-gif-26833875

Also the smite is gonna be purely for trolling high level players

[marble crater]

[long wharf]

the wife and I watched the final episode of Reacher for season 3 tonight

it was good

[cloud night]

Best I can do is find you a nice looking barrel and ledge with a view

unless you're not a smyker

[analog agate]

The amount of people that still leave maels when they go down is pretty staggering

[marble crater]

I watched the first season a few years ago, figured I will start all over again to refresh my memory glad the remaining seasons are good and I can look forward to them

[analog agate]

I can only assume they are going for ass. Cause we are pretty much next to them when they quit

[lone ravine]

didnt the fix that and make it still count as a loss?

[marble crater]

But there was a patch that fixed that, no?

[lone ravine]

yea if youre like downed or disabled they just count it as deathg

[marble crater]

Yeah, so jokes on them

[analog agate]

Was it. A down counts as a loss? I know they made it so you can’t rejoin

[marble crater]

If you leave

[analog agate]

Lol then wtf is going on

These people are weird

[lone ravine]

they probably dont know because the penance doesnt actually track your current progress

just your furthest

[marble crater]

Or they just rage quit

[clear heath]

lot of people just quit when they down regardless

[marble crater]

When I go down I drink some water

[deft stump]

No, press tab or back.

It fixed it for me the time it happened.

[marble crater]

I don't have a tab key

[deft stump]

Back.

The left most center button.

[marble crater]

I don't think it has a name anymore, it's just weird symbols now

[deft stump]

Not on the Kaleid. No symbols.

Just hit the button that brings up the EVENT thing.

Or pinned penances.

[marble crater]

Because it's not an officially licensed Xbox controller?

[deft stump]

Cos they wanted it see through.

[marble crater]

Weirdos

[deft stump]

But it used to be called the back button.

While the right one is the start button.

[marble crater]

Yes, I'm just annoying you on purpose

[strong gulch]

Feck 2 rituals in green fog.

[nocturne dust]

@hearty wolf also I don't know if it reset my tries because I deranked

[marble crater]

Went well then?

[strong gulch]

I deranked too

[hearty wolf]

That's a reset

:)

[strong gulch]

We did twins with a captain fine.

[nocturne dust]

'fine'

Me who was on 1 HP because the captain's attack magically hits behind him 😭

[hearty wolf]

Tbh it was fairly clean

oh yeah

That one did an ouchie on me too

[nocturne dust]

Very clean

Much not damaged

[blissful solar]

if they gave like 2x rewards for every 12 mortis waves that'd be epic (and made it infinite waves/more waves)

[strong gulch]

Tbf, I was in a hallway chilling with one of them. We babysat one another. YOu got chosen tho.

[nocturne dust]

T'was before that

[deft stump]

That's just lag.

[strong gulch]

I just kept SB stacks up and held block. lmao

[hearty wolf]

It's okay though

[nocturne dust]

Mfer just came at me with a sword

[hearty wolf]

Point is I am at 30

[nocturne dust]

It's not

[hearty wolf]

Meaning we did prog today

Prog is good

[strong gulch]

Sword captains are cheaters

[nocturne dust]

Sword captains literally have broken animations

[strong gulch]

ye

[nocturne dust]

They will stand still and yet combo three heavies into you

[strong gulch]

unblockable attacks while not moving

[deft stump]

Oh, sword guys. They are weird. Sometimes, they can't even hit me, other times... Wot.

[nocturne dust]

Several times I was blocking and enemies just decided to ignore that without an overhead

😭

[strong gulch]

😭

[nocturne dust]

When Sin died in the container, I got smacked by a guy while blocking

[clear heath]

I keep calling them start/select because I was a nintendo kid, but officially they're called "Menu" and "View" buttons

[nocturne dust]

[clear heath]

View on the left, Menu on the right

[nocturne dust]

I love love love how functional and working this game is. Fatshark needs to stop keeping it so functional, I'm worried they don't have enough time for vacations.

[cloud night]

View mortis mortitties

[strong gulch]

I think I fried my brains in havoc because I giggled at the X button being labeled X Button.

but ton

ton of butt

[deft stump]

Depends. They used to be labelled as Start and back for ages.

[clear heath]

well that's what they're called now on microsoft's support page

[marble crater]

I still have to check which is which sometimes. I clearly don't like this change

[deft stump]

I'm an Xbox 360 kid.

THey were Start and Back.

[blissful solar]

i think start and select for me

[deft stump]

They were also called that on the Xbox.

[marble crater]

Yes we know, time for you to go to bed, grandma

[blissful solar]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/PSX-Original-Controller.jpg/330px-PSX-Original-Controller.jpg

[strong gulch]

You can call me grandpa

Granddady Beans 😭

[clear heath]

PS5 now calls them "Create" and "Options"

[strong gulch]

wtf

[clear heath]

yeah...

[marble crater]

Actually unhinged

[clear heath]

take me back to the start/select days

[marble crater]

I'm also not a fan of L3/R3

[deft stump]

I KNEW IT.

[clear heath]

Oh right, nintendo does - and + now

[deft stump]

Xbox was also Start and Back.

[clear heath]

start/select is dead everywhere

[marble crater]

[clear heath]

why do they all change it?

everyone's gonna call em start/select anyways

[deft stump]

Nu.

Start and Back.

[marble crater]

I don't call them anything anymore, last time I had to describe them I said "the one with the 3 lines"

[clear heath]

maybe they thought names like "back" are confusing because it's not really descriptive anymore. It doesn't go back in like any game

but like view isn't great either

[deft stump]

You made me have to explain them.

[marble crater]

In Cyberpunk "view" opens up the menu for saving, loading, settings, etc really not descriptive

[clear heath]

lets be real here
If i asked you to press view button before this conversation, you'd try to guess which button it was randomly

[marble crater]

Yes

[deft stump]

Cos I'm an Xbox kid.

That's Back.

[blissful solar]

my 8bitdo has 3 lines for start and 2 windows overlapping (view?) for select

[deft stump]

If it's the left one.

[marble crater]

Left one is the overlapping squares

Right is 3 lines

[deft stump]

Wait, the Kaleid has text.

It's Start and back.

[marble crater]

Not officially licensed, I knew it

[blissful solar]

left is back, right is start.

makes me realize that it's kinda backwards

[clear heath]

left one is view now and right is menu

[blissful solar]

japanese controller moment

[clear heath]

I think sony changing select to create is also unhinged

in what game does the create button create anything?

[deft stump]

I mean, do you think M$ would allow hairtrigger and turbo?

[blissful solar]

probably games with photo modes

[deft stump]

Also, the ability to swap to switch or PS mode?

Or have GYRO aim if you use either of those two?

[proper osprey]

Yeah they do

[proper osprey]

My ccp controller has mouse triggers

[blissful solar]

CCP controller? LINK??

[deft stump]

No, for Xbox.

I know some, yes.

[proper osprey]

https://shop.bigbigwon.com/products/bigbigwon-blitz-2-gaming-controller

I have tmr

[blissful solar]

oh, just because it's chinese?

[deft stump]

But turbo isn't allowed anyway.

[proper osprey]

Yarp

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf @nocturne dust I was wondering why I was getting shot in places that EE should have been proccing.

Turns out... I didn't pick it. lmao

[blissful solar]

i guess i already got a ccp controller then

pog

[proper osprey]

It has turbo but I don’t use it lol

[clear heath]

still waiting for g7 pro controller to release

[crude cape]

thanks for this, been having a blast, im def going down and squishier than im used to, but getting the hang of it. Went down twice in this AM which i normally go down 0-1. and took too much dmg but man, the build slaps.

it can pump some numbers

[blissful solar]

that's a kinda wild controller, the bigbigwon blitz 2, like the land yacht/maybach of controllers. still a 3rd the price of an elite controller tho apparently

[patent mango]

funny big damig

[clear heath]

I used to have the first gen elite controller

[blissful solar]

it probably broke

[marble crater]

I have hair triggers at least, so yeah

[blissful solar]

within 2 years

[clear heath]

it got worn out over time. got a lot of use out of it

[clear heath]

okay i did have to repair the bumpers twice

you would not believe how thin the plastic is holding it together

[blissful solar]

i would believe anything, even that it doesnt exist

microsoft makes its things to break so that the ignorant people who keep buying them just...keep buying them even more.

probably

[clear heath]

if it snaps, your bumper presses no longer register.
It's like paper thin plastic

i opened mine and replaced it

yeah i can verify the build quality is not great

[deft stump]

On the console?

PC not counted btw.