psyker-class

[patent mango]

did they finally fix warp unbound

[young cliff]

I'll believe it once I see it

[lone wing]

neither

[raven mountain]

Yeah. Bistol is such a nice snap shooting weapon. And it's great for adding to boss damage with the bleed.

And you can do funny fgs things in a pinch.

[lone wing]

I use the old columnus

infantry autogun

[patent steeple]

you mean Vraks, now?

[raven mountain]

I use reconlas when I'm playing gunker.

[lone wing]

new vraks, old columnus

gun is secondary for me

always will be

[young cliff]

Apply bleed on assail and fgs slash, move around map and away of hordes, sniper-away
The gun does so much for the meleeker

[patent steeple]

right, I misunderstood what you meant with old... (I thought you meant ol' reliable)

[young cliff]

Other weapons work, but it certainly gives a lot

[raven mountain]

Though my current favorite meleeker rn is knife+voidblast.

[lone wing]

all good

[young cliff]

With gaze that thing punch like a mule

[marble crater]

I played with a knife + voidblast psyker yesterday

[raven mountain]

Fgs+Bistol is sick for doing work. But knife+voidblast is basically just crackhead speed and durability into ranged fire. With assured soulblaze and cc because of forced crits.

Wall of ragers or bulwarks? Nah. Get on the floor so I can stab you. Oh and you're on fire.

77% crit chance keeps EE up like a boss. (82 if you take the memey crit on soulblaze kill)

But you definitely are either completely fine and murder hoboing your way through a map, or something went wrong for a second, and you're on the floor rethinking life decisions.

[young cliff]

I don't think I have a Void staff build so far, care to share some of your findings on how to build it?

[raven mountain]

That's basically the tree. Kinda normal SG stuff.

[proper osprey]

What the slop

Is this for melee psyker?

[raven mountain]

The funny thing for voidblast in the build is that True Aim gives an assured crit.

So you get a big aoe soulblaze whenever you feel like it.

And whenever there's a bulwark to slow you down, you just use it to put him on his ass and stab him.

[raven mountain]

Yes

[proper osprey]

Melee psyker works best with assail

And mm

[raven mountain]

And bb+kf is nice because you are never using anything but knife for long.

Cool story. I have that build. This isn't that.

If you're throwing assail, you aren't stabbing.

[proper osprey]

Me when I don’t know

[raven mountain]

Kf happens while stabbing. Which is more stabs per minute.

[summer prairie]

This is without warp unbound, seems like you get 1.5s of overload prevention after you hit 100% peril https://streamable.com/umn56m (e: actually you already did before this patch, but should get it also during the transition)

[proper osprey]

It looks like a trauma staff scries

[raven mountain]

You run fast and stab more. And if something is shooting you, no it isn't because EE is up all the time.

And if there's something that isn't safe to stab, fire trauma. Now it's safe to stab.

[proper osprey]

And you’re missing mettle and quietude

[raven mountain]

Not missing mettle.

[proper osprey]

What the scallop

Oh looked at it wrong

[raven mountain]

Don't have quietude, but I'm fine with that.

[proper osprey]

The meme build

[raven mountain]

If you want to play like a bitch, you can take out the 5% crit on soulblaze kill and take it.

But 5% more crit is 5% more EE and more crit stabs.

[proper osprey]

[raven mountain]

If you feel unsafe, the only choice is to slide into the nearest pack and stab more.

[marble crater]

Not the soulstealer

No, that one is drinker, I get them mixed up

[raven mountain]

In all seriousness, it's just 5% crit. It's memey. Quietude or cleave are better nodes to take.

[marble crater]

I will remember now by drinking (alcohol) is bad and so is souldrinker

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/melee-psyker-27

[raven mountain]

Cleave is more bleeds

[marble crater]

And stealing is good

[raven mountain]

Quietude is a bit more safety

It's a flexible point.

[raven mountain]

Minus a couple of specific nodes, that's pretty much what I run. I still like PC, and I prefer speed over toughness in scrier's, and I don't often feel the need for that last point in DD, but that's good stuff.

Fire is a little better than bleed, and it's faster to apply. But I still lowkey like the flexibility of Bistol sniping with the option for bleed waves.

[lone wing]

bleed is better because it directly benefits from the blessing "uncanny strike"

burn does not to my knowledge

[patent steeple]

after some testing, I don't know if bistol is something I will use on FGS meleeker... assail eats up True Aim when I'm trying to get MM stacks, leading to the bistol shot being less powerful...

[lone wing]

try vraks infantry autogun

or recon lasgun

[patent steeple]

those are reserved for my gun-focused build...

[deft stump]

Stop stealing my bleeds reeeeeeeeeeee Vet main.

[lone wing]

is good for meleeker as well

[proper osprey]

I run Laspistol or revolver

[marble crater]

Gunker is Meleeker is Gunker is Meleeker

[deft stump]

Also Assailer.

[proper osprey]

And that other silly build with bb is just silly Kf doesn’t help that much with melee psyker

[patent steeple]

I don't want to feel like I would be much better off just deleting either my meleeker or gunker loadout just because the ranged weapon choices are identical...

I will try agri revolver though, because I want a ranged weapon with carapace damage for armoured rager groups...

[patent mango]

hooly frick

[raven mountain]

Don't have uncanny with fgs melee build.

But just from a dot stand point, fire lasts longer, so less reapplication, so more melee scrier's damage.

[analog agate]

Will this be the same supposed post about their thoughts on the ds? Though, I have a feeling people’s tunes kinda changed with new havoc

[lone wing]

not needed

[raven mountain]

Another reason my knifer took bb+kf. True aim gets saved for when you want it.

[patent mango]

to balance duelling sword they just need to remove all other weapons from the game

[upper sun]

WERE DOING IT

BITCHING WORKS

[radiant frigate]

hell yeah

[patent mango]

ungodly amount of yapping

🔥

[radiant frigate]

no more warp unbound betrayals?

is that a real patch note

no more explodination when you should be immune?

that's epic

[cosmic sigil]

🐟

[muted haven]

hi i dont know how to play psyker how is this build

deimos + trauma staff

[marble crater]

Not awful, but can be better with a few changes

[muted haven]

pls suggest changes, thank you

[marble crater]

That's how I would change it, last point can either be wildfire or for the two more warp charges

[muted haven]

ok great thank you ill try

[raven mountain]

That's how I'd run it. Pretty similar to his!

[marble crater]

Or drop 6 charges and get EE and KD

[muted haven]

ill try both and see which i prefer

[analog agate]

Mine is good positioning or dead

[raven mountain]

I'm always torn on kd.

Like when it is needed, it's amazing. But I don't often need it.

[raven mountain]

Wildfire for EE, and that's how I run it for myself.

[marble crater]

Yeah, KD is wasted most of the time, but the times you need it, it will literally save your life

[raven mountain]

It's always hard for me to justify wildfire. Like, shriek hits 6 stacks, but that kinda already kills wave.

It kinda helps blazing trauma, but that is something you'll usually throw out more than once or twice, so it's going to cap at 6 anyhow.

It's a little helpful with pc to hit a threshold for killing waves, but that's also more helpful for non-blaze and for inferno.

And the obvious soul drinker, but that's a meme.

I want it to be really good so badly, but most of the time, it really isn't doing much.

[muted haven]

oh forgot to ask

curios set up?

1 Stam 2 toughness?

[analog agate]

I’ve never liked flaming hot

[strong gulch]

Make sure you're doing fire trauma if you're doing In Fire Reborn.

If you're doing rending flurry, take the other node.

[zinc phoenix]

It’s always worth having for utility when dueling bosses alone

You can take a stam curio as an alternative but KD is just so good

[strong gulch]

Curios are largely personal preference and play style.

The main recommendation is to get to 201 HP and x1 sniper resist. This lets you eat surprise sniper and bursters.

The rest is up to you. If you don't ever get sniped, drop sniper resist.

[zinc phoenix]

Cheerios

[muted haven]

thanks for the cheerios info

[strong gulch]

Yes. Lmao

STT gifts

[raven mountain]

That's what I do for dueling and knife. It's usually plenty. Like the other guy said, it's often wasted, but when it's not, it's super clutch.

[hardy coral]

i swear, the worst thing about this game is the heartbeat sound on death that happens sometimes and the silent enemies you cant hear.

[lethal plover]

I can't say if I have ever noticed silent enemies or that it's just my lack of attention

[raven mountain]

Crushers. All I gotta say, lol.

[hardy coral]

i literally was smacking away with my Psyker in melee and a trapper that i didnt even hear was right behind me, like what... it would have had to spawn out of view and right next to me for me not to hear it.

[deft stump]

I forgot KD one day on a build with +9 stam... I still blocked for ages, lmao.

Was a deflector force sword though.

[marble crater]

Assail feels so much better again now, thank the Emperor

[deft stump]

At least the aimed thing wors again.

Some people found out too late and was confused.

I mostly just spam lights anyway.

[lethal plover]

apparently there is a mod called spidey sense that gives you a visual warning for specialists

good when audio doesn't work

[dense wolf]

what are the main stats on curios for psyker

[strong gulch]

Was it fixed?

[marble crater]

Yes in today's hot fix

[strong gulch]

Hotfix day

[warm spindle]

wait was the tracking off for assail I felt like nothing was hitting yesterday

[marble crater]

EK points also fixed, by making the UI ignore the issue

[strong gulch]

Waaaaa?

Didn't expect that

[lethal plover]

assail is truly the definition of spray and pray

[marble crater]

Trials also more difficult

[frail oar]

Has anyone tested warp unbound to see if it's really fixed with assail?

[strong gulch]

Inch res ting

[marble crater]

And none of this is an April Fool's Joke either

[strong gulch]

Idk if there was anything in the patch notes and I haven't played since the hotfix, but since trials update, I haven't exploded to WU bug.

[frail oar]

They said they fixed a warp unbound bug causing it not to work but we know how bug fixes go sometimes.

[strong gulch]

So true 😭

[hardy coral]

the tracking when ADS wasnt working, they fixed it.

[late yew]

What important talents are for melee psyker?

[cloud night]

Right side tree
Crack of bone
Warp splitting, etc

[frail oar]

Kinetic Deflection

[late yew]

With great force sword light spam is anti horde, right?

m1 cancel

[weak galleon]

is Penetrating Flame worth it on Purgatus?

Inferno I mean

i.e. does it apply per each tick ("direct hit")of charged attack?

[fathom adder]

It's not typically recommended as Blaze Away and Warp Nexus are just too good

[analog agate]

Ya. If you want to optimize it on mk8 is is L1L2 and then either weapon swap or block cancel

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust wake up

@strong gulch hi

[strong gulch]

Hi. Am awake. Almost functioning

[weak galleon]

it should be free +40% dmg on targets, including dmg from teammates, tho?
Like, I used Warp Nexus/Blaze Away combo before, still have Blaze Away, but PFlame seems like a very solid team support vs crushers/bosses, even.

tho probably questionable to keep firing staff at crushers.

[analog agate]

Consensus is. No partner psyker with rending VB? Use blaze away/nexus.

Partner psyker with rending? Pen flames can work as they stack with each other

[fathom adder]

If this guide is accurate: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3293278399
It's "only" 20% brittleness but stacks with other sources of brittleness & rending

Now that Penetration of the Soul allegedly works that could be a decent boost to its ADMs as well

[weak galleon]

oh, another case of wrong description in-game, right.

[frail oar]

After the third light attack throw in a heavy and it resets the attack chain and that is best for horde. If you are sprinting it'll be a heavy after the first attack following the bespoke sprint swing.

[fathom adder]

Not at my PC but the in-game description seems accurate for once, at least in English (I've heard some horror stories about other localizations)

[hearty wolf]

Today we mark in Google Calender the start of the win spree

[fathom adder]

Other than the part about stacking with other Brittleness sources because it counts as a different debuff

[fathom adder]

Huh, I wonder if that shows like that when applied on the weapon itself

[weak galleon]

from weapon

[strong gulch]

Getting coffee and drinking it from my "Powered by Chemicals" mug. Serious gaming.

[analog agate]

Could be right. Could be wrong like the new precog description on duelling sword

[fathom adder]

Never mind I guess, typical Fatshark

[weak galleon]

ye

[fathom adder]

Also I missed this in the patch notes until now, is Inferno now LMB gaming?

[strong gulch]

It was before QC was patched out.

I honestly don't know now.

Probably not tbh

[late yew]

What is the consensus on best blessings for great forcesword?

[earnest sand]

All 😈

[summer prairie]

even with that talent rmb is generally better

and due to the point tax it's too expensive to get, maybe if there's another psyker who can take advantage of it

if you run a 4 psyker meme team with shriek, someone should have it

[late yew]

Mortis objectives are such "if you are considered furniture or sentient being" kind of check

[frail oar]

Depends on build ofc but I generally like riposte and cleave on hit. The deflector one can be fun and memey.

[late yew]

and disburing amount of people seems to have been borned in Ikea

[fathom adder]

Depends on build and personal preference. In no particular order:

• Shred or Riposte (if enemies are typically swinging at you a lot, get Riposte, if you are just mowing through them before they can attack you, get Shred)
• Wrath (especially if you don't have Warp Splitting)
• Unstable Power (if you spend a lot of time edging at high Peril)
• Precog (especially with Scrier's and Disrupt Destiny, which practically all melee psykers take anyways)

[frail oar]

I just found out this week precog has lasted 5 seconds for a long time. I really wish they would update description more accurately I would have been using that so much more .

[strong gulch]

The description is wrong. It's still 2s. Also for some reason force melees still say 2s. #psyker-class message

[summer prairie]

Iirc it's because the description is pulling the duration from the base template which is 5s but the weapon modifies it to 2s

[strong gulch]

Is there a weapon that has precog actually at 5s?

[summer prairie]

No

[strong gulch]

lmao

[idle valve]

what's some weapons/abilities that gives good boss damage?

[strong gulch]

If you want to boss damage on psyker, gunker is the way.

Laspistol with unyielding + crit chance and dumdum + infernus.

Varks 5 is also good for that.

Staff doesn't do the best.

Inferno + EP BB is your option for warpy things.

IDK with the new DD upgrade tho.

With DD stacks refreshing on monsters.

[weak galleon]

How do you usually build LMB spam Surge staff?
Surge and Warp nexus? Or Surge/Transfer Peril, since base crit is already high?

[plucky flax]

Big sword gazer

[prime elk]

Auto pistol with gaze

[frail oar]

I could've sworn I saw it last 5 in game. Musta confused it for riposte. Sadness.

[strong gulch]

sadge

@fiery stratus yay

Now give me back my 36% WR illisi. 😭

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-chocolate-finally-laughs-maniacally-gif-14228908

[hasty valve]

Haven't been able to try Havoc yet. How's my old havoc build holding up nowadays? And are toughness, combat ability, corruption res still the must-have curio perks?

[loud girder]

i just installed a mod for this lol

guess ill delete it

[marble crater]

Should be fine, corruption resistance is less important now that the corruption on the floor modifier is gone

I still like BM as well, because of the quell speed penalty

[hasty valve]

Thanks. Good, I put stamina regen and some health in corruption's place instead and was hoping to keep it

[hasty valve]

True, just not sure what to sacrifice in its stead

[idle valve]

darn

i don't like gunker and don't wanna mess with gaze
guess i'll just lmb then spam charge electro staff or ep brain burst and pretend i'm alright 😂

[weak galleon]

how do you even proc "Unleash Hel" in new game mode?
The one where you're supposed to create multiple brain bursts or smth

never saw it proccing, when using against enemies under soulblaze

[hardy coral]

I swear Ive gotten downed by a Crusher literally walking sideways and doing a ballerina twirl more then anything else in this game besides trappers.

[marble crater]

Aura radius, imo

[summer prairie]

Ilya,the multiple BB one only works if your BB/KF kills the target, but Unleash Hel is different

Unleash Hel adds 10 sb, 10 burn to all targets within 5m

it seems buggy in many ways though

[wooden sand]

Smite is the best blitz

[strong gulch]

RMB spam is better for bosses than LMB for EK.

[idle valve]

yea, tho i got that talent that debuffs on lmb

[summer prairie]

On BB kill it adds 10 sb, 10 burn. On BB hit if the target is burning , it adds SB or Burn depending on which stack it had. Duplicates (or adds the amount) the stack count actually. Super OP since the cap is 31.

[idle valve]

wordin' was tricky in that sentence, but was gonna dab boss up and then heavy spam till i feel like lmb again

[deft stump]

Nu. The Warpslash crit is worthless, burn on crit is also kinda useless.

[deft stump]

That's normal. It's how to solo the tutorial for some.

[weak galleon]

OH.
wait, it adds SB and Burn ?

i should've spammed it more then

misunderstood it's effect

[crimson shell]

I have a question... What is the reasoning for not running blaze away and brittleness on a flame staff? I've been seeing alot of warp nexus and blaze away even before the changes to havoc

[pastel turtle]

So is Scrier's Gaze just superior to venting shriek now? I know Shriek gets pretty amazing soulblaze projection but it seems like any Warp Charge/Soulblaze stacking build would be pretty well served with Scrier's now too

[pastel turtle]

Crits stack sb faster and also synergize with your talents. You could maybe swap Blaze away for brittleness tho? Might be worth trying

[crimson shell]

ive seen that a couple times

I have the most success with brittleness and blaze away

maybe my build is just not built for it

[strong gulch]

There's a scrion on blessings for inferno. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3381184577

[pastel turtle]

You're getting +40% strength from Blaze away basically instantly though so that's hard to give up. But yeah the critmaxxing is for mettle, perfect timing, empathic evasion etc

[summer prairie]

You can play a lot more aggressively with warp nexus due to mettle and EE procs

if you play bubble penetrating flames is worth considering in havoc

[leaden geode]

Me too. I think the warp crit stuff is overall more damage for you, but the brittleness is better for your team, so if your team is doing dots and such into a mixed horde, your brittle will amp dmg much more than 20% crit chance

[crimson shell]

yea definitly forgot to mention havoc

I'm talking about havoc 100%

[strong gulch]

nexus and blaze away are meta blessing on inferno

but if you don't edge or are playing with a teammate who you can stack brittleness with, pen flames become more worth considering.

Blaze away is the anchor blessing either way.

[wispy bay]

Yes and no. Venting can still stagger a group of specialists, which are very helpful.

[leaden geode]

I have two flame staves, one brittle/blaze for havoc and another warp/blaze for auric and vent shriek super stacking

[crimson shell]

does it still overcap soulblaze stacks?

or has that been fixed?

[leaden geode]

Yes

[wispy bay]

I don't know.

[leaden geode]

Vent shriek + warp blaze flame staff is a helluva horde cooker

[outer vessel]

Fixed a bug where Warp Unbound would not prevent players from overloading at the end of Scrier’s Gaze.

Beautiful, brings a tear to my eye

[crimson shell]

im so hyped to try this

[leaden geode]

I didn't really hit that bug, how common was it?

[wispy bay]

You can use vent to stop dogs, trappers and bombers, which sometimes is not the case with gaze.

[crimson shell]

uhhhhh

[outer vessel]

Enough to be a game ending bug

[crimson shell]

very common

to the point I stopped using scriers

[outer vessel]

It would be why you straight up lose

Because you go down at no fault of your own in the worst situation

[marble crater]

Never had that bug, so I call skill issue on everyone who exploded

[leaden geode]

Admittedly i don't run gaze all that much, but somehow never tripped it the few times i did

Good fix though, surprise head pop sucks

[strong gulch]

Shriek (creeping flames) doesn't have a cap outside of the 31 global cap.

[hasty valve]

What's this?

[leaden geode]

An image of a thing

[marble crater]

Big if true

[leaden geode]

Any other questions?

[crimson shell]

I was doin a primary fire build so had more opportunities to blow up.....

[pastel turtle]

Mortis Trials insignia?

[strong gulch]

Insignia from the event

[marble crater]

That event has confusing milestones for some reason

[analog agate]

Has anyone tried trials. How significant is the decrease time between waves

[marble crater]

It was still 15 seconds

[summer prairie]

for early waves it was something like 30s -> 20s

later waves some timers were 60->20s iirc

and buffed

I think that's for the spawns, not time between the main waves

[analog agate]

👍

[pastel turtle]

Is this a good gunpsyker build? Thinking revolver and either force sword or DS

Brain Burst feels a little redundant with revolver so that's why I took kinetic flayer so it auto procs. I don't have much use for smite but can see the value in Assail maybe

[raven mountain]

Usually looking at right side for DD. Some say they can maintain without the extra duration though

[formal stump]

Out of curiosity, what would need to be done to flat damage shriek node to be worth picking? Any ideas?

[raven mountain]

And right side for SG too

[raven mountain]

Take stagger off shriek. Put it on the damage node. It's sad, but it would make it a decision.

Could realistically remove it or make it a morph—no more cone but a burst in all directions.

Or like the VT thing where it's a dot around your body over time.

[patent steeple]

btw, I don't think Riposte/Precog is good for my usage of FGS on meleeker... the dodges are too hard for me to time for the buffs when I already stagger everything consistently in melee...

[raven mountain]

EE procs them.

[sturdy reef]

^

[raven mountain]

Crit. Get shot at. Get stats.

Doesn't require active dodging, but that helps too

[analog agate]

My one thought was that shriek could delete any environmental hazard in front of you. No more fire/tox gas.

Could also just make it a short range shout that does uber dmg

[sturdy reef]

any1 up for an H34

[raven mountain]

I prefer riposte because longer duration (and feedbacks into EE), but precog is bonkers damage.

[sturdy reef]

[marble crater]

Precog bad

[strong gulch]

This is general gunker tree with no particular focus on one particular weapon. If FGS is your main thing, I'd take warp speed.

Tailor it for your needs but note that mainly faster guns are used with it. Guns like recon, laspistol, varks 5, etc.

Zarona is too slow for SG imo, but the fan one is good with SG.

Generally assail is gunker's best friend. It's helps with ammo economy, hordes, offers CC, etc. I only recommend KF, outside of preference, if you want to have as little CC as possible to get better at fundamentals.

If you can keep up DD stacks 25 is fine, but you have to have the enemy density and aggressive playstyle to keep them up. Most, even most sweats, take the longer duration node. Purloin is poopie evan after the buff.

If you want zarona revolver or bistol, I recommend assail + shirek + DD with FGS.

[marble crater]

[safe cloud]

Please may someone quickly explain to be what the blaze force sword fist charge animation does, It feels like a force push, but cant really tell...

[strong gulch]

Fist charge?

The special or the push attack (not the same as a push)?

or maybe the push?

[safe cloud]

Not the special that electrifies the sword - the force push

Yes and not the basic block/push

[analog agate]

Like, the super push?

[clear heath]

idk what you're talking about but it probably just pushes

[marble crater]

It's basically a strong single target stagger with quite a bit of range

[summer prairie]

It applies strong stagger, the range is 8.5m or so. Use it to stagger specialists/elites when you need to play defensively

[safe cloud]

When the left hand and the sword are raised and it is charging with electricity.

[strong gulch]

There is a regular push and then the push attack after the push.

It is single target, can push an enemy over up to 9m away, and only build peril if it connects with an enemy.

Bulwark shields can be knocked open and even crushers can staggered with force sword push attack. Reapers... just don't.

[pastel turtle]

Noted and appreciated, thank you!

[safe cloud]

Thats banging.... Ill have to learn to use this.

[marble crater]

Why does this sound like the quelling animation now

[safe cloud]

Its definately not that one

[marble crater]

What are you pressing to get the animation

[safe cloud]

holding right c;ick then release wqith left click

blaze force sword equipped

[jovial juniper]

But which force sword?

Greatsword?

[strong gulch]

Just to make sure. I do Illisi (mk of force sword) special, push, then PA (push attack).

Special on deimos and obcurus is different, but the push and PA are the same.

[safe cloud]

force sword (small)

[jovial juniper]

Illisi?
Deimos?
Obscurus?

[clear heath]

their pushes are the same anyways

[safe cloud]

Just tested and yes it is a force push

[strong gulch]

push or push attack?

[rigid sky]

Brain Burst question in Mortis Trials: do all of the brain burst bonuses from Sefoni trigger from Kinetic Flayer too?

[summer prairie]

yes

[safe cloud]

Honestly i do not know, but the target get thrown to the floor from a few meters awa.

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

If it's a push (it's a regular push), it pushes multiple enemies. No peril is generated.

If it's a PA, it is only single target but it only after a push. Push into PA. Builds peril if it connects.

[rigid sky]

Honestly, that push is the whole reason to take Deimos over Dueling Sword

[marble crater]

Give us Force Dueling Swords, you cowards

[rigid sky]

Or if you're a deflector stan like me

[deft stump]

FORCE KNOIFE.

I want to go fast and I wanna block gun.

Deflector Uncanny lets go!

[marble crater]

Deflector on DS, but instead of a force field blocking the bullets we actually deflect them with a crazy animation, like a Jedi

[rigid sky]

Now hear me out

[warm spindle]

what do yall think of empyric resolve specifically with scriers gaze

[rigid sky]

How about... force duelling greatsword?

[warm spindle]

force club

[rigid sky]

Unironically, force shovel

[warm spindle]

force palms

me want monk psyker

[rigid sky]

The special can be it flying off on its own and "digging" the heretic crowd

Because obviously trench-digging is beneath a psyker

[marble crater]

I think you can already stay at 0 peril during gaze, so you don't need that

By Crack of Bone and Tranquility Through Slaughter keep you at 0 while you melee or use your gun

[safe cloud]

That is clear. it means i ahve never manged a push attack yet, ill have to learn it. thanks for taking the time to explain.

[formal stump]

Any reason to use fgs special with no bars?

[marble crater]

Save teammate from dog

Also it looks cool

[strong gulch]

NP. This game can be obtuse.

[marble crater]

It's not hard to learn, just hold block and then attack and hold the key down a bit longer

(Don't do this against burster if you are using Kinetic Flayer)

[deft stump]

Stagger a ton of ragers with block cancel.

[zinc phoenix]

Need peril

[strong gulch]

Yeah save a teammate from a dog through a wall or up a level.

You can use it to CC enemies.

If you have a shriek build, you can build peril quickly to yell.

[wispy bay]

Fus ro dah

[prime elk]

Totally overkill

And very expensive on points

[deft stump]

Also sus going for warp charges... Sound like the penance build I made.

[cinder moon]

wonder how easy the 25 minute penance will be now

[deft stump]

Depends on how fast the timer is.

[prime elk]

I did it before for shits and giggles but absolutely not worth lol

[deft stump]

It used to be you NEED to finish every wave within 2 mins.

[weak galleon]

damn, going back to Psyker after playing current Ogryn feels like you have no survivability and no damage output.

[cinder moon]

i kept trying to pull randoms below 25 minutes by using really strong builds but it's crazy how much dead time there was

[analog agate]

Ogryn is definitely good now. I’ll give you that

[deft stump]

I mean, I did it for penances. I had to keep relying on slowing peril gen to be able to hold my quell at max stacks.

[prime elk]

Nah psykers busted rn

[weak galleon]

in a some specific build maybe?

[prime elk]

So is ogryn fwiw

[strong gulch]

If I was doing VS or VB SG, I'd try to get ER. Otherwise meh.

[weak galleon]

with Ogryn rn, almost everything works, as long as you pick 1-2 key talents.

[prime elk]

Gunker or staffkers, which together is 100 percent of psyker builds

[warm spindle]

tru I didnt realize how much ER really screws your other talens

[prime elk]

Gunker also got buffed massively last patch

[marble crater]

We are far away from having no damage output

[deft stump]

Assailers.

Flees again.

[elder glade]

Ctrl+ALT+del

[cinder moon]

smytker on top

zzzzzap

[rigid sky]

You aren't my dad

[marble crater]

[rigid sky]

I think if you do it at long range you can be safe from it anyway

It's more something to be very aware and conscious of, rather than a hard Don't

[zinc phoenix]

I might drop something to double up on assail perks, it’s pretty good rn

[marble crater]

And it feels good again now, this past week was pain

[young cliff]

Man, even with the new hotfix and the safety of arms perk still gives 25%peril, I cry

[marble crater]

I also cry

Also isn't more peril from the perk what you would want?

[nocturne dust]

[hearty wolf]

Motherfucker

I had

a

3h nap?

I kept waking up waiting

and then my cousin asked to play Siege

so I loaded it up xd

I will come in lil bit, will grind out a couple games first

[upper sun]

banned

[marble crater]

No u

I had the most dysfunctional team

[pastel turtle]

Which FGS do you guys like? I have mastery almost maxed and never used them 🤣 just fed emperor's gifts to Hadron

[marble crater]

Literally depends on which you personally like more

Mk6 is a bit better at single target, mk8 at hordes, both are awesome

[pastel turtle]

What pairs better with a SG Laspistol

[nocturne dust]

They aren't that different, it's mainly about what you prefer in combos and having easier access to.

So try both and see.

[deft stump]

Just try it. I like MK6 cos simple. Light spam for hordes, heavy for bigger stuff.

[nocturne dust]

note that light spam on mk6 is not the optimal combo

[jovial juniper]

I like mk8 because I played it the most

[patent steeple]

I mean, light spam into the unique sweeping heavy is the optimal horde combo on mk6, right?

[nocturne dust]

you would also be using the push horizontal but yes

[patent steeple]

*the sweeping heavy can of course be accessed from the push attack as well, I know

[nocturne dust]

Well, I'm saying optimal is through the push

It's also safer

cuz push

[patent steeple]

fair enough. I just like to do the sweeping heavy via light spam, because its easier for my muscle memory to process for some reason in a panic...

[deft stump]

But it shouldn't be a big deal in most diffs anyway. And it's better on my head, lul.

[earnest sand]

Mk8 push attack is always fun. Chunks erthang

[nocturne dust]

It's not a big deal, yeah

but what is?

[marble crater]

Apparently auric if you have two dysfunctional games as gunker, I had to switch to EK to not get titled

[nocturne dust]

titled?

[strong gulch]

angy

[nocturne dust]

tilted*

[strong gulch]

[marble crater]

I take no responsibility for my autocorrect

[nocturne dust]

I turn autocorrect off

[strong gulch]

I used STT earlier and curios was changed to cheerios.

[deft stump]

All your autocorrect seems weird.

[strong gulch]

Me or Sut?

[deft stump]

ALL, so both.

[strong gulch]

lmao

[rich spindle]

I dropped toughness dam reduction on scriers to get the assail recharge

Seems worth it

[strong gulch]

Mine is just I struggle with typing and spelling. Mostly all me and almost no auto correct.

[zinc phoenix]

I have never seen the point of that, especially when speed boost exists

[nocturne dust]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1jothsu/nightmares_nightmares_patch_notes_out_this/

[long wharf]

Good changes, provided they're actually working

[strong gulch]

🔴

[upper sun]

kino

[strong gulch]

😭

[nocturne dust]

Psyker-only meta since they're the only ones with non-weapon horde clear

[upper sun]

remember the 40 ragers week?

lets bring that back

[upper sun]

even arrowhead had an april fools why cant we 😭

[nocturne dust]

If Fatshark had an April Fools event, they'd release it the year after they said they would

[clear heath]

the real fools are the ones playing darktide...

[marble crater]

[fathom adder]

What else am I gonna play? Spess Mareen Part Deux?

[upper sun]

https://www.instagram.com/arrowheadgamestudios/reel/DH5mnzBKh7u/

"you’ve known us as Arrowhead. It’s finally time to drop the “Arrow” because, let’s be honest, we were always aiming straight for the top.

While our name has changed, our commitment to creating unforgettable games remains the same. Head to the future of gaming!"

[strong gulch]

valheim got a pet rock

[earnest sand]

Would be funny if they just threw in a random vt2 model in darktide for April fools.

[upper sun]

yee rats

[neon mist]

Is assail good now or is havoc mainly purge staff still?

[marble crater]

Assail is good, not sure it's high havoc level good

[deft stump]

Looks at my 'nades.

[runic juniper]

purga and bb still, half the reason you take brainburst is for the ability cdr talent you can only grab with bb or smite

[analog agate]

VB still better than inferno if you are good at VB

[runic juniper]

otherwise everything you would be assailing would be better suppressed or killed with inferno

[analog agate]

Assail doesn’t have the infinite cleave of inferno and VB

Why you really won’t see it in high havoc

[strong gulch]

also psyk aura location

[runic juniper]

it can probably work if the director decides that all the static elite spawns will be shotgunners honestly, but they get torn up by everything

and you have to hope it's shotgunners instead of reapers

[nocturne dust]

then you run out of nades

[analog agate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/CueQNfR8Us

[deft stump]

I do what I do with dueling sword then.

I spam lights like crazy.

[nocturne dust]

PotS good for armor
no crap, it's literally rending

[hearty wolf]

Imagine if your melee weapon had durability

[nocturne dust]

If all you're fighting is crushers, yes, PotS good

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627

[runic juniper]

they actually fixed the 10% rending talent?

[summer prairie]

now it only takes 1000 hits instead of 1500

[nocturne dust]

yes

[summer prairie]

if you are at 75+% peril

[nocturne dust]

I confirmed that like the day of the update that PotS works

[deft stump]

Why are you asking for the impossible? Has way too much peril gain reduction.

[deft stump]

I mean, I even told you.

[nocturne dust]

Yes

and then I tested it

and then it worked

[analog agate]

That post was a direct response to me saying ER is better for the majority of builds.

[nocturne dust]

lol

[runic juniper]

like last hotfix?, because I tried before the hotfix this morning and it did nothing in psykanium

[analog agate]

People just hate ER

[nocturne dust]

I wonder if the guy even knows what ADMs are

[prime elk]

Seems petty

[analog agate]

🤷‍♂️ People can use what they want. And hey, pots isn’t a detriment anymore. It does something

[deft stump]

He petty as heck.

[west pebble]

Is smite… lethal? Like is it really possible to make it a good dps?

[patent mango]

oh god oh god

[analog agate]

Yesish. Smite does meh dmg with EP. But with shriek it can be a good combo

[patent mango]

did pots buff smite

[analog agate]

Idk

[patent mango]

loll

i kinda forgor smite might be goofy with that

[nocturne dust]

it would be a bug if it didn't

[prime elk]

Rending is a global player buff

[patent mango]

i'll try later am playing new rain world watcher dlc.......

[prime elk]

So would think so

[runic juniper]

Gotta try with scriers warpunbound smite

[patent mango]

true true

[prime elk]

I tried. I think shriek smite better

Unless you don't care about damage

[deft stump]

Some want INF Smite.

[prime elk]

The uptime can be very good with gaze yeah

[weak galleon]

are there any meta builds with venting shriek left?

by meta I mean "very viable at max difficulty"

[prime elk]

Uhh all the staffker builds that don't use bubble

[weak galleon]

Scrier Gaze does the same when it comes to venting, tho, now.

[analog agate]

VB, EK, and inferno all use shriek

[weak galleon]

Voidstrike?

dome, I suppose?

[analog agate]

That can go either way. SG or shriek

[nocturne dust]

Shriek is taken for Creeping Flames

Soulblaze good

Perilous Combustion good

Every staff's meta build includes Shriek and PC

[prime elk]

Sorry where does it apply soulblaze to an entire horde? I must've missed that.

[nocturne dust]

Of course, that's only if you only want damage

Bubble is meta for safety, but you don't need it if other things (such as a crazed man with a book) is keeping you alive

[deft stump]

Me when I barely have peril by the end of the horde.

[prime elk]

I should try SG staffker again though

Seems really dumb

[marble crater]

Is the darktide April Fool's to give me bad teammates?

[weak galleon]

was Transfer Peril on Voidstrike nerfed at some point? I recall it being more noticeable in the past.

[hot hamlet]

🔱 \\ Call to Arms // 🔱

I need all the finest servants of the God Emperor to overcome this penance so that we all can repent. There are heretics that needs to be purged! In the name of Emperor!

Penance: God Emperor demands no one in the crew to not go down during the period of Auric Maelstorm mission.

Pretty please..

we need 2 more >.<

[analog agate]

I can help

[hot hamlet]

that'd be nice

we need one more then

[marble crater]

I guess I can leave my maelstrom I just started

Done

[analog agate]

My fs code is in my description

[hot hamlet]

alright

[marble crater]

Mine too

[mental grail]

++ THE EMPEROR PROTECTS ++

[hot hamlet]

I invited the first guy he invited his 2 friend but I will just invite you guys because I was the one responsible for inviting

[oak plover]

Thoughts on this? Saw it on Reddit. I mean, I agree that this is basically VoC, but it would make it more viable to run. Bubble is for sure gonna remain the meta and that's not just for the gunners.

[mental grail]

Having both of these would be a little overkill I'm mgl

[quartz barn]

not really

[mental grail]

VoC still hasn't been nerfed

[oak plover]

The damage itself feels so negligible. I really just use it for CC and to dump peril.

[quartz barn]

shriek is weak enough as is

[wispy bay]

Not at all overkill.

[oak plover]

I'm finding what works best is pop a bubble and let the Ogryn taunt to remain in the bubble and pull everything in there

[mental grail]

imagine having a vet spam voc and a psyker spamming this at the same time

[quartz barn]

average havoc moment

[prime elk]

Wat. Shriek damage is great

[wispy bay]

It is still half ass defensive and half ass offensive.

[quartz barn]

just replace psyker with zealot in that sentence

[oak plover]

In Havoc anyway, you really don't notice it vs say purg staff

[mental grail]

I mean it's fine in havoc I guess, but havoc is like the top percentile of situations this wouldn't be overkill in

[wispy bay]

Focusing on their defense or offense is better, not half assing neither is to go meta.

[prime elk]

Well all of it gets baked into exponential ramping of your SB

[nocturne dust]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh

[prime elk]

I don't get what the issue is

[nocturne dust]

No

Shriek on Top of Purg is fantastic

[mental grail]

I use it as a soul blaze spreader

[prime elk]

Yeah that's exactly what it is

[wispy bay]

It stacks extra SB.

[mental grail]

There's a huge cone which it sets everything on fire

[nocturne dust]

Shriek goes above Inferno's cap

[mental grail]

It's not meant for damage per se

[oak plover]

Mostly what I'd like for Psyker is the additional toughness boost because we go down quick and it feels like you need that Ogryn with taunt to protect your ass now maybe more than ever

[mental grail]

It spreads damage all around and builds stacks

[nocturne dust]

It also lets you look in a direction and spread soulblaze while Infernoing a second direction

[quartz barn]

thats the only reason to pick shriek with purg

[wispy bay]

9 stacks total is why vent is still so good dps even with Gaze buff.

[mental grail]

It's a pretty big fucking reason

[prime elk]

That's a pretty big fucking reason

[quartz barn]

yes?

i didnt say the 2 dont match

[prime elk]

Lol

[oak plover]

I do think shriek is worth taking if you already have a bubble psy too

[quartz barn]

this depends

if you already have a purg psyker then no

[rigid sky]

It's like burst DoT

[wispy bay]

Either vent or gaze work, depending on build.

[rigid sky]

If that makes sense

[quartz barn]

otherwise you cuck eachother with soulblaze prio

[rigid sky]

Good warp battery synergy

I would never go double soulblaze psyker generally though given a choice, yeah

[mental grail]

I couldn't put my finger on the term, but this

[nocturne dust]

Not below Havoc, Bubble is incredibly unneeded

[rigid sky]

I mean two in a team

[nocturne dust]

No reason to take Bubble outside Havoc since you don't need the defense, and Shriek is offense sooooo

[wispy bay]

If you shield orgryn with blocking taunt, you can kind of skip dome psyker.

[rigid sky]

Bubble is everything tbh

[oak plover]

Yeah the havoc meta is for sure its own thing. I tend to just play havoc exclusively these days since I find it more fun overall.

[rigid sky]

Hybrid ability

[quartz barn]

how is bubble offensive?

[nocturne dust]

It isn't? It's just defense? Lmao

[rigid sky]

Uh

[wispy bay]

In terms of mixed horde damage, they are both good.

[rigid sky]

I meant shriek

Spoonerism lmao

[nocturne dust]

I love bubble, it's my favorite ability, but it ain't everything

[nocturne dust]

lol

[rigid sky]

Yeah I said one thing and meant your mother

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[quartz barn]

shriek is allround ye

defensive because stagger and peril management

[nocturne dust]

I saw someone on reddit complaining that shriek doesn't stagger 😭

[quartz barn]

but big dmg potential

[zinc phoenix]

Simply don’t be hit 🙏

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[wispy bay]

Use gaze to self regen

[oak plover]

Shriek is a little CC, but that's about it. You could maybe compare it to a trauma staff blast or two. Doesn't compare to say veteran's shout though at all which gives the entire team toughness and CCs

[quartz barn]

average dt redditor is a heresy player tho

[zinc phoenix]

Honestly the only missions I genuinely feel vulnerable with my like 150hp are pox gas and dark

[wispy bay]

It is quite defensive if you ask me.

[rigid sky]

Shriek gives toughness too

[quartz barn]

my psyker at 250 hp

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but Shout doesn't apply soulblaze to everything in front

[rigid sky]

With quietitude

[oak plover]

True and you get a little bit

[zinc phoenix]

Sometimes I’ll get stuck on something and die but whatever, shit happens

[nocturne dust]

I feel vulnerable in every mission because I dump defensive nodes

[prime elk]

Shouts the only thing keeping the fourth strongest class in the game in the fight

[wispy bay]

Using vent regen your toughness

[zinc phoenix]

Gotta lock in that +3 stamina 🙏

[wispy bay]

Killing with sb and warp also does

It is not like vent can't give you recovery.

[zinc phoenix]

Idk especially after all the buffs I think HP is meleeker dump stat 😂

[nocturne dust]

fourth strongest but first in most boring

[wispy bay]

WS is the best you can have - FS.

[nocturne dust]

Warp Splitting?
Warp Siphon?

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fool-funny-just-kidding-gif-monkey-gif-18905185

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-search-your-feelings-you-know-it-to-be-true-star-wars-gif-16574787

[prime elk]

I still have the most builds for vet simply because there are so many meme builds

[prime elk]

So it's still the most fun class for me

[nocturne dust]

Btw, in the failed clutch I did with Sin, the psyker on that mission was using mainly BB

like, they had an inferno staff, but used it once

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve seen some people do very nasty stuff with bb recently

[nocturne dust]

This wasn't Mortis

This was Havoc

💀

[prime elk]

The infestation on Atoma is like the Tanner infestation. Persistent, unbeatable, and constantly growing

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wingsofredemption-wings-jordie-jordan-richard-look-here-look-listen-gif-3483833880634645957

[zinc phoenix]

Im not really interested in the tutorial

[nocturne dust]

Mortis isn't the tutorial, it's the sandbox

I love me a sandbox

[zinc phoenix]

I saw one dude going absolutely wild in an auric mael with bb which was neat

[nocturne dust]

Nothing about it has changed last I checked

[proper osprey]

Bb is good

My fav

[nocturne dust]

Says the ER hater

[zinc phoenix]

Every time I go into havoc I get a bozo team on the party finder and they die instantly and half leave

[proper osprey]

Oh my scallop

[nocturne dust]

Your opinion is rejected until you figure out ER is good

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1288701442122846322.gif?quality=lossless&name=Biruta&size=128

[proper osprey]

Whatever enjoy less toughness gain

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Imagine needing Warp Expenditure on top of every other toughness node on the psyker tree just to survive

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-red-red-cat-evil-cat-normal-cat-gif-7123425318368299957

[nocturne dust]

Honestly, playing the glass cannon class as not a glass cannon is weird

[proper osprey]

I LOVE TOUGHNESS

[nocturne dust]

go play Ogryn or something

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332767309353324574/1351670290014408887/IMG_6166.gif

Flip you dude

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/you-just-did-you-did-it-yes-you-did-selma-blair-harper-glass-gif-15997230

[proper osprey]

My dad works for fatshark he’s gonna delete your psyker

[nocturne dust]

And?

[proper osprey]

[nocturne dust]

I'll just enjoy the levelling process again

[proper osprey]

You even said er needs a rework

[nocturne dust]

I say a lot of things sarcastically

[proper osprey]

Oh my slop

It’s so poopy

Stinks

Sludge

Less toughness

Overall

[nocturne dust]

Actually I have better toughness than you

since I don't get hit

[deft stump]

WEAPON SPECIALIST FOR PSYKER?

[nocturne dust]

plz no

[proper osprey]

You lie

[nocturne dust]

Weapon Specialist sucks

[marble crater]

[proper osprey]

Me when I’m wrong

[nocturne dust]

I don't lie

[proper osprey]

Ws is the best thing ever on vet

[nocturne dust]

I don't get hit (for a period of time until I do)

[mental grail]

My dps will be LARGE and my survivability LOW

[proper osprey]

You need to stop healing it’s a crutch everyone uses just don’t get hit

[mental grail]

IT HAS BEEN ORDAINED

[mental grail]

this but unironically

[proper osprey]

I’m all for taking no damage I’ve done it plenty of times

But

[zinc phoenix]

Assail is very nice

After changes

[proper osprey]

Every now and then you do take damage

[zinc phoenix]

Gross no take only give

Be like a trash chute

Deposit, do not receive

[proper osprey]

Oh mah gah

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[proper osprey]

Soyker chat is TERRIBLE this evening

[analog agate]

the term "soyker" should have been banned when paradise was

[proper osprey]

I didn’t even know he got banned until recently

[zinc phoenix]

BAN SOYKERERS

[nocturne dust]

they were banned?

[analog agate]

Yeah, for being a douche

[proper osprey]

Fun fact psyker is my highest level

[zinc phoenix]

Paradise status: lost

[analog agate]

really, he was banned for being an asshole

[proper osprey]

[nocturne dust]

I mean that checks out from my experiences with them

[proper osprey]

Lumi got the same treatment

Just be nice to people

Simple as

[deft stump]

Wait, eh?

[proper osprey]

I saw my build in the wild in Tanner cord

[deft stump]

And I though being nice was an obvious thing.

[proper osprey]

Yea death by a thousand meanies

[nocturne dust]

who's Lumi

[proper osprey]

He wasn’t even running it right

[analog agate]

zealot

[proper osprey]

Zealot chat member

[nocturne dust]

Zealot chat is a dangerous place

[proper osprey]

Tomfoolery afoot there

And its so funny

[upper sun]

bros......

how long until poweraxe OR new staves?

[proper osprey]

Because you see stuff like this

[marble crater]

No

[deft stump]

I guess it'll happen. I mean, didn't he reeeeeeeeeeee all over that build I bring to old H40?

[upper sun]

i NEED a new staff, a force dagger, a power axe, and more ogryn ranged weapons

now

not tomorrow NOW

[marble crater]

No

[upper sun]

yes

i dont want anything for vet

its ok

[proper osprey]

Yrap probably

[zinc phoenix]

Ogryn new ranged weapon: bigger rock

[upper sun]

peak

ill take it

[marble crater]

Asteroid?

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/look-pim-lost-cause-smiling-friends-gif-1264940406406447253

[upper sun]

idk what they did to kickback

[proper osprey]

New weapon will be released when you don’t use Marty @upper sun

[hardy flower]

Still waiting on a lance or something for Ogryn

[deft stump]

Ah well. Is what it is.

[upper sun]

but it feels like shit(balanced)

[hardy flower]

Battering ram maybe

[upper sun]

not gonna happen

[proper osprey]

[upper sun]

i WILL play marty

i WILL play more marty when zealot tree gets reworked

[proper osprey]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-so-you-have-chosen-death-chosen-death-lord-of-the-rings-gif-15767548

[jovial juniper]

Based Martyrdom enjoyer

[hot hamlet]

Need one more for Atoma's elite guards penance, anybody down?

[nocturne dust]

zealot tree rework: no more marty

[upper sun]

blocked

[proper osprey]

Clad zealot chat is on its way to ur house

[upper sun]

let them come

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/scar-lion-king-whoa-is-me-for-i-have-told-you-gif-15306616

[upper sun]

ill body all

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/here-i-come-gif-22416350

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/flourhyune-ferret-jokjebi-ferret-peeping-gif-4650358843949474509

[patent jacinth]

Someone is going to hold a piece of a cardboard like a shield and you're just going to have a mental breakdown

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/black-adam-gif-26989330

[upper sun]

NOOO

THATS CHEATING

[proper osprey]

Approaching clads house at mach 2

[patent jacinth]

Womp womp

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-cheat-you-will-win-qotd-qoute-motto-nods-gif-8719402905451664636

[marble crater]

Blocked

[upper sun]

1 blocked message

[marble crater]

2 blocked messages

[upper sun]

🤔

this dude blocked himself

[nocturne dust]

he was predicting

you just did 2 messages

[deft stump]

What even happened after you posted the gif?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-down-capcom-knight-dragon-dnd-gif-27018433

[deft stump]

Ah, blocking flames?

[upper sun]

btw

@nocturne dust i thought youd find this funny

today i spent like 15 minutes trying to diagonalize a matrix

before doing a determinant test

i almost said fuck me in class

[mental grail]

Paradise was bamned??

Makes sense

I was noticing this chat was less psychotic at times

[nocturne dust]

F

[analog agate]

He was banned a month or so ago when many rogue zealots got banned during slow mode time

[strong gulch]

I just did trials and lit a barrel with no one around it, then a teammate runs over to it (didn't even run past it) and got blown off the edge. Then they blamed me lmao.

[patent jacinth]

Para was banned way before that

[oak plover]

The danger zone mod really should just be included in the vanilla game

[nocturne dust]

maybe they were lagging and saw you hit the barrel right as they approached it

[strong gulch]

Also doing heavy spam move tech nearly auto selects indulgences heck

[deft stump]

But then ppl will complain about skill issue and accessiblity and help is cheating.

[strong gulch]

That would be some heckin lag.

[deft stump]

I have 300 ping, unless you shot it twice, they should be able to comprehend and get away.

[oak plover]

I don't think anyone complains about spidey sense or health bars anymore when the audio ques and everything else is so wonky in this game. I think everyone uses this stuff for havoc especially because Fatshark don't wanna refine it.

[nocturne dust]

I've had a full 5-second delay before

Actually I've had worse

[deft stump]

I think some still do. I personally don't care as long as you aren't naked.

[strong gulch]

[strong gulch]

They still complain

[nocturne dust]

definitely people do

[nocturne dust]

Your ping is consistent

That actually works in your favor for Darktide. It has a good system for managing consistent lag.

If your ping is inconsistent, woe be upon ye

[deft stump]

Nope. That's the avg.

That H40 I went into was rubberband the game, lmao.

[nocturne dust]

If you have 300 ping and can see a barrel exploding before it damages your health, your ping is consistent.

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust @strong gulch ready?

[strong gulch]

after trial

[hearty wolf]

kk

[deft stump]

Is more, I would panic dodge hearing the sound.

[nocturne dust]

ye-ish

I'm on ze toilet currently

[nocturne dust]

Hearing the sound is also part of it

If the barrel reacts at all before the explosion goes off and hurts you, you have consistent ping on 300

[deft stump]

IDK but I think I mentioned sound plays earlier than visuals.

I can hear a gunner mowing me down before it even shoots at me visually.

[nocturne dust]

Once I go over 200 ping, I cannot react to barrels at all. As in, if you shot one I would literally not have any chance to know until after it already hurt me.

[deft stump]

Also, my HP going down to the sound than visual.

[nocturne dust]

That's weird, I don't get sounds

[deft stump]

But in all honesty, it depends on which server in EU we get.

[nocturne dust]

at least not early

[deft stump]

One is rubberband galore. Mostly related to me as a player getting moved back to where I was a few moments earlier.

[nocturne dust]

the sounds get delayed in addition to sights, as one might expect

[deft stump]

One is... things are just delayed.

One desyncs so things kinda... teleport?

[upper sun]

not all 200 ping is the same

i played on US a couple of time

[nocturne dust]

Yes, I'm aware

[upper sun]

sometimes for 80% of the mission its perfectly playable

[deft stump]

And that's also true.

[upper sun]

but sometimes decides fuck you no hit track no animations no ult no blitz

uncommon problems become common when your ping is higher for some reason

[deft stump]

Is why I say, I think lag compensation only works for like up to 150 ping.

Anything higher is god knows.

[upper sun]

theres something else idk what

[deft stump]

Cos playing in Aussie at 100 ping feels close enough.

[upper sun]

if it was lag compensation then it would always be bad

but sometimes its playable

[mental grail]

what horrific crimes did he commit

[upper sun]

i think fatshark servers are just REALLY bad and sometimes they get tired

[deft stump]

Maybe is just that. SEA feels okay cos ded server.

Maybe. LUL.

[upper sun]

🚬 we just need to get more people into darktide

that would solve all of our problems

[deft stump]

Eh.

[upper sun]

80% of all warhammer memes on instagram have the darktide sound track yet no one plays 😭

[deft stump]

SEA players are either good, OR HORRIBAD ABSOLUTE TRASH MONGERALS.

I'm not even joking when I say that.

[upper sun]

i played on sea once they were great

[deft stump]

Yeah, you got the good players.

[hearty wolf]

I have bought 4 friends Darktide

[deft stump]

It's literally been how it is with any co-op game I have ever played.

[hearty wolf]

they played it like twice

then never again

[upper sun]

😭

ive been screaming at 1 dude to play it

[hearty wolf]

One of them started on psyker and hasnt played a tide game so got REKT

[upper sun]

ill end up buying it for someone during the summer i think

[deft stump]

I just got a free copy, so Shrugs.

[upper sun]

the friend who introduced me to darktide quit to play helldivers 2 and still hasnt came back

[deft stump]

Always force a Zealot first char...

[upper sun]

one other friend has 400 hours on VT2 but refused to play darktide because "fuck fatshark"

[hearty wolf]

I think Darktide is an infinitely better game

Helldivers is so boring on god

To me anyway

If Darktide had the resources of a triple A title and good direction, I could potentially never stop playing it

[lone ravine]

oh boy helldivers 2, the game where your entire team just runs RR and deletse any threat possible the moment it shows up

[upper sun]

22 friends own the game 🚬

[deft stump]

Does it?

[upper sun]

maaan

[hearty wolf]

Insert meme of child drowning and the skeleton at the bottom of the pool

[upper sun]

they could start with adding back missing features from vt2

[deft stump]

XD

[hearty wolf]

Literally how it was for the first like year and then with the new changes, it's cool and all but I have no drive to play it

[deft stump]

So chatblock?

[upper sun]

breakable shields

[hearty wolf]

I think if I had friends to play it with, sure

[upper sun]

customizable bots

mission select

also the keep is 200 times better than the mourning star

[long wharf]

At this point, I'm pretty sure that all of the new and QoL features Darktide has gotten were the result of a VT dev looking at Darktide and asking "Why?"

[hearty wolf]

I'm starting to really dislike hubs in games in general

[upper sun]

yeah

[hearty wolf]

It's hard to do them right

[upper sun]

walking to the mission terminal is a humiliation ritual

even the devs dont use it

[hearty wolf]

xD

[upper sun]

i still remember on a dev stream "ugh im not used to walking here so slowly"

[deft stump]

But you can't have 10 Keri in the keep.

[strong gulch]

wave 10

[deft stump]

Would make no sense.

[upper sun]

keep is nicer collecting the art is something to do instead of book bs

we really need side objectives

[deft stump]

True.

[upper sun]

like if instead of BOOKS the ritual events could be side objectives

[deft stump]

Nobody likes the buggy rituals though.

[upper sun]

ye it needs polish from what i hear

[deft stump]

LOADS of polish. it's like opening a rice cooker 10 mins after you turned it on.

[hearty wolf]

See

I was reading that as Polish

and was quite confused

Karien's comment in particular I was like WHOA

[deft stump]

How do you read it like thaty?

[hearty wolf]

Mystery of the universe

[strong gulch]

out of trials. bathroom then can q up

[hearty wolf]

ok good

also

I updated mods

are we looking good

[prime elk]

I thought ovens scoreboard plugin is broken

[hearty wolf]

what about it is broken

[prime elk]

Idk it was listed as a broken mod

Does it work for you?

[hearty wolf]

Yeah xd

I do see this though

so maybe I swap over

[prime elk]

I don't like power di

[hearty wolf]

fock

I already deleted ovenproof now

[prime elk]

lol maybe you'll like it more tho

[hearty wolf]

Imma go into the settings and take a look I suppose

Curiosu what other mods I have that might be outdated

[strong gulch]

you can ask void what to change in the script

[nocturne dust]

It is but you can fix it

I've fixed Ovenproof several times

[prime elk]

gib copy pls

[hearty wolf]

I think I had it fixed which is why I had no issue

[strong gulch]

ovenproof and power ID are not interchangeable imo

[hearty wolf]

what have I done

[prime elk]

power ID's kinda overkill

[nocturne dust]

PowerDI is too much of a resource hog

[hearty wolf]

for fuck

I'm uninstalling it

[prime elk]

the only time i found it useful is when i wanted to see how many times twinned blasts procc'd (once)

[hearty wolf]

I have just default scoreboard for now

[nocturne dust]

This is updated for Mortis, but there may be a few missing damage types (I have yet to play Zealot or Vet in Mortis). It'll just spam your chat, shouldn't be a major issue.

[prime elk]

thanks

bro wtf

i got a virus

[hearty wolf]

get scammed

[prime elk]

[strong gulch]

I'd keep power ID but not save in the loader. Add when you want to know a lot of detail.

Like, how much of ranged damage comes from my blitz or soemthing

[hearty wolf]

I'll just keep it gone cos I need frames

Like this game runs so poorly xd

[nocturne dust]

It actually runs better if you turn some settings up sometimes

That's how bad the optimization is

[hearty wolf]

Bruh what xd

[faint citrus]

Void strike or void blast?

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045849775804796979