#psyker-class
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It can't be helped, it's incredibly fun to play right side psyker
the recoil is out of this world
like
legit this level of recoil doesnt belong in this game
especially in the hands of the ogryn
blaze away
oh
though I personally think that blessing has no business being available on a staff
I was thinking more about penetarting flame
you don't want to tart flames
and what about Warp fury?
none of the other blessings ramp up the soulblaze dot damage like blaze away does
so you go warp nexus to assist with crits (which apply two stacks of soulblaze instead of one), and blaze away to ramp up the damage
Penetrating flames only allows you to kill crushers. Otherwise, it's useless to you, because the adm on soulblaze is good against every other armor type.
Blaze away is a 1:1 strength to damage conversion.
The longer you hold blaze away stacks, the more damage your soulblaze will do.
FartShack should rename the blessing
You can even just m1 puff to get stacks.
damage stagger and cleave
and make it just scale strength based on peril
its not as good as you might think
try it out in meatgrinder
That's just unstable power.
bingo
and what bless for Deimos? I'm using Uncanny and unstapable force
gimme unstable power on every staff
We do not need unstable power on staves.
Psyker is already stupid broken.
No need to make the issue worse
it was initially meant to be rending which was so gamebreaking like 90% of the discord shat on fatshark until they made it brittleness
lmao
psyker isn't inherently broken
Uncanny and slaughterer or uncanny deflector.
Most choose slaughterer as their 2nd blessing.
Deflector is ok if you have a hard time positioning yourself against shooters.
i like deflector,my fat ass can't move smoothly
any melee weapon with access to slaughterer takes slaughterer
precog is also good for deimos
and i get busted by gunners
We gave up, server was either ded or crashed. 2 lives lost thanks to trash servers.
I'm giving him options to choose from.
illisi really likes slaughter and deimos really likes uncanny
secondary could be something like deflector or unstable or precog
Illisi also really likes uncanny because the damn thing barely hurts carapace without it due to no strikedown attacks.
i wouldnt even look at a rusher with an illisi tbh
thanks siblings for all this info ❤️
the illisi is essentially a crowd chainsaw
It does, but alternatively you could just give up on dealing with cara on illisi entirely
How about no.
It’s not terrible
the illisi even bounces off of carapace in-game
Max uncanny melee psyker can burn through them
you'd have more luck grabbing the sword by the blade and banging on the crusher with the pommel
Are the pinned psyker builds still relevant?
Please give us the flaming flail
to some degree
Depends on what you’re looking for
Oh, hey ainz, its you. I got my zealot to 30 today and wanted to try out psyker.
a force flail would kick ass
I honestly dont really know. I juust started playing recently and ran zealot for my first 30.
have the special attack be spinning it like a fan
If you like zealot melee psyker would be fun
That’s be too goofy
I'd like to focus more on the staff/abilities aspect of it. The carpal tunnel doesnt feel great and a ranged option would be nice :^)
Maybe a strikedown that sends out a shockwave
Inferno or void blast would be good then
and whipping around a force flail fits that bill
Sweet, Ill try both out while Im leveling then. VB pinned build still fiine to use?
flails, morningstars, etc - they were all designed with the intent to defeat armor
force blaze axes when..........
it'd fit right in
The top pin is still relevant for meta non-havoc staff builds.
For some reason inferno is not there. Inferno here. #psyker-class message
Thanks pimp, appreciate it.
pimp?
You heard me.
pimp potato.
Red name
that's what you're going with.
To me kinda, everyone has there own versions of them
But that’s soulblaze trauma
It’s good
I wouldn’t run wildfire and kf
To be fair, FyreStone builds tend to be at odds with the rest of us.
Actually depending on how much sb there is it might not be terrible
there's no reason to not take wildfire with a soulblaze build
you want everything on warpfire as much as possible
I just want to set fire to the rain.
I don’t 
If I had more points i would too ngl
Fire trauma/VB benefits a significant amount from wildfire. Think of it as pre-cooking.
Or I’d path and get soul drinker
I use assail with blaze trauma, so I never get the chance to go for wildfire...
What the slop
Bro might be fleekazoid
Ok true

assail is in that build purely to kill shooter groups...
Primary fire son
I like assail fire trauma. It's not meta but it's fun.
but you have trauma
Tbh my vb is off meta
What the hell is a fleekazoid?
When it works
YouTuber that really likes the word Pimp
For me, my greatest vulnerability on trauma is shooters. Especially little ones scattered about.
So when I want to sweat less, I just give em the ole warp bees.
Oh, yeah I dont know who that is. Ive just always used it since my pre militarry days
it's confirmed - assail is the bees knees
Creature form the warp
yep
Shoutout to the siblings lost in the warp due to mettle they went too fast
shoot, this server needs chaos god reaction icons
"slop out"?
Slop out.
do you say these words out loud?
that is, as the kids say, "cringe"

OH right. I forgot to say, that you don't have to play meta.
You can build for you. Take a meta a build and make it your own.
If you are having a bunch of issues, build is the easiest to amend. That way you can focus on fundamentals.
But this is a game at the end of the day.
couldn't even spell "insatiable" right
weak.
that rabbit is living the good life
Sut typing
Couldn't even spell "week" right, smh
smgdh indeed
I just had a shield ogryn game, so naturally I will now play gunker to balance it out
1 vet and 3 ogryns, vet was on special duty, with a bolter, poor guy
that is the wrong weapon for that role
I don't think he was aware he had to kill most specials alone when we started 
man, rocks are easily the most fun special in the game
Ever since rocks were introduced, I have laughed everytime I seen a rock ragdoll a mutie. lmao
yeah, but the mutie flying forwards makes zero sense
it's part of the funny
It's called momentum, smh
Maybe like running into something a skidding off it?? idk
nah, it's almost like the impact force is being applied in the opposite direction from what it should be
Rock small
actually, the rock is about the same size as the mutant head
point is, the ragdoll behavior doesn't match the physics of the mutant being killed with a heavy projectile
it is funny, but as someone that enjoys writing physics simulation/code, it irks me
Honestly, regular meta may also be meta for havoc. Bubble can still be good for bon and captain/shots
yeah ofc not its just coded to lose all mass/momentum the second it dies
the mutant should immediately go into ragdoll mode, keeping the velocity it had when hit
Inch res ting. I have not done any havocs post update
instead, you can see the mutant body go flying faster than it was running
I should probably do some
I have done one of each of the new modifiers. Did old havoc build for 1. The others did regular blaze VB
valid
I want to try EK
that said, I enjoy hitting specialists with the rock more, anyways
watching a trapper just crumple and fold in half as they fly backwards is hilarious
EK with aoe psykers probably slaps since it enables shriek and PC so much.
Rock and GG make you a specialist killing machine
GG?
Grenadier gauntlet
I am gonna have to learn oggy abbreviations and lingo. Vernacular expansion
finally cleared 40, holy shit
18 bosses on gloriana, things were crawling out from every hole
that's how slaanesh likes it

congrats
I can't even clear 30, old 40 was a breeze in comparison
And I have to learn to accept that I can't save my team from a lot of things as gunker
someone got dogged, I turned around and used gaze instead of shriek, smh
build?
Hahaha yeah. I've done that. FGS special tho
I did that with wall earlier. I turned around to shriek and felt the cringe.
WHAT
Ya. But when they changed the descriptions to reflect the code it revealed the code always was 5? Apparently
i swear there are hidden changes in the patch
Yeah it’s 2
it wasnt always 5s
I know
What's the best melee weapon to use with the buffed heavy attack smite?
The description was 2
like pure heavy spam
illisi prolly
One that doesn’t kill in a heavy swing
its the only thing with fast enough heavies to make it work
back to patches
they DID stuff to the game
movement feels different better for all classes
and kickback feels worse
yes
Ya, I noticed something with movement. But I can’t tell what it is
oh yea activated H1, has a ton of cleave
idk what it is its better
i can dodgeslide better
I had precog buff icon pinned and it did not last 5 sec
There are multiple stealth changes.
does enfeeble work with charged strike 🤔
Right? It's like someone moved our stuff over a little. At first glance it looks the same... but it's different.
sneaky change is more like it
So is it 5 seconds?
fatshark can only count to 1 5 15 30 and 60
Seems so.
@wind spruce
But hven't there been instances of people reading the code and something should act like x and somehow doesn't?
Ya, that is why I am skeptical

right side
If you take KD (kinetic deflection) you can make any psyker build like that.
WHAT THE FUCK
ty bro
This is cooked, does it actually last 5s now?
Bc idc what they say it didn't last 5s before. Definitely a stealth change as @strong gulch said
are we entering the precog timeline
Nooooooooooooo
enemies to lovers?
I really don’t know. I don’t think a single person has noticed lmao. I just saw a reddit post on it
Told you
ahem
TOLD YOU
ahem
TOLD YOU
ahem
Idk how to make those big words
Anyways y'all got the message
Hate f
one morbillion crit/headshot damage
Wait what did you tell us
what the yip
Unironically Shock Maul

smaul gets its first use
Iirc Pygex said that the ticks scale with impact or something
isnt it mass
You type it with a hashtag then a space
Like this # Hi
or also impact
Precog propaganda
It could be both now
wait. Precog on my FGS still says 2s.
whar...........
It WAS propaganda at 2s... idk anymore, my life has lost all meaning 😭
Yes. Tick count scales with impact. And is deleted by another dmg type (like soulblaze)
Not quite yet
Precog enjoyers and haters in shambles right now 
We'll have to scour all precog blessing first
Says 5s on DS
I hope I didn’t just get bamboozled by a photoshop on reddit
Seems like we have some discrepancies at hand
I am not online atm
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
its another hecking ds buff
Ahahahaha
DS buff
Wtf
Hahahahahahaha

they buffed ds!!!!!!!
I just can’t

help!!!!!!!!! help me!!!!!!!!
Truly a darktide moment
Well that explains why it hasn’t been noticed till now
What the fuck is happening
yeah lets buff precog
FS is still 2s
Question, the patch notes said that there were some changes to the DD keystone, how does those feel in practice?
Someone just goddamn test it?!?
Awesome 
Lmfao
I’ll check later
That has to be a typo... RIGHT?!!
within 0-5 business days
5s is a really solid uptime
i swear to god if they buffed ds again
For a constantly available buff
🎶 We don't know
We don't know
Yet 🎶
Psyker chat right now
Is the 5 seconds window now opened the gates for the 25 stack path? Or is still the safe one?
2s on ds4
Irosk is relieved to hear this
Me who 2shot crushers thanks to it: wait it does?!
i tried it but you cna't heavy spam
oh pygex said somethin
No idea, I played a bit of gunker but as I can't see my DD stacks I have no way of testing which DD node is actually better 
needing precog to do it? skill issue smh
It's close to BiS at 5s
impact maxing smaul time /hj
looks like 2s to me
The thing is. Is the buff bar right. Or the description now 
HAHAHA YES
i will be trying it without using loadout config too to make sure though
To kill? No, to kill in 2 hits alone? Yeah
just need to get past...... 2 more.... loading screens................
Looks like your identity stays intact, for now
My condolences
Thank the emperor
yeah its 2 seconds
Thing is. Can we rely on the buff bar for it? If it has been “bugged” this whole time?
we got dangerously close to a duelling sword buff
Bullet: dodged
oh god
Then again, that 2 seconds fgs more imply weird typo for 5 sec
i can test that too iguess
FS making us see the horrors of the warp irl
Now everyone will test it
You need to test the damage just after it expires
i can post vid in a seec
they're changing descriptions which can tamper with it
Wait
Sorry unrelated to the whole blessing stuff
Pygex said that the ticks on charged strike scales with impact or something
But wouldn't he just be hard staggering stuff so they get sent to the ground and lose mass
So that's why the amount of ticks go up
Does it make a difference in practice?
i think this shows it
Tbh my buff bar bugs out a lot
mines modded so it mostly works other than newly added ogryn buffs
buff bar isnt accurate most of the time it isnt reliable
able to test damage?
Damage comparision at end.
So precog buff icon lasts 2 seconds. YOu can see how riposte lasts longer.
First part of the clip has DS2, but that got annoying so I switch to 4 with precog and rampage for easier testing.
Precog buff didn't last 5 secs in the second part of the clip with DS4.
thats damage test
vidoe lagges so it was only 4 sec for me
Thanks for testing
dumb visual bug FS introduced
precog now 5sec
@wind spruce @analog agate @marble crater #psyker-class message
does no ammo consumption on crit work with assail?
i have it right now but cna't really tell
no clue
NICE
it's 2s
Ye.
Also why does precog say 5s on some melee and 2s on others??
FS arcane code
What even happened? I was streamsniping someone doing a challenge run, lul.
You right
ds almost got buffed
Precog almost happened.
like how did they mess that up
also does the uhh
what code were they touching
Good question
Well, crutchpick is good for newbies and not so good players.
Bad habits but hey, I can do Damnation on my 24 oggy panicking around.
blessing description code
what's going on?
ds almost got buffed
[misclick, ignore]
what
Yes, i streamsniped with my oggy.
does manstopper ammo work with assaiL?
also haven't seen any assail exclusive blessings yet, are they path locked?
wtf
wait but
fatshark said they now use the actual numbers in the blessing code for descriptions
How are the numbers somehow more wrong?
Blessing verbiage apparently was changed to reflect the code. Precog now says 5s instead of 2s; despite it still saying 2s on force sword and FGS.
We all wondered if DS accidentally got a buff. So we tested and everyone is still getting 2s.
how do they keep doing this
Fs things
Maybe a live mission is different.
fatshark fixes things
somehow more broken
oh no
But meatgrinder is still showing 2s on precog
Shouldn't
fartshark code
Blessing as in what you put on weapons?? No you won't see that.
Talent on the tree, yes. They are mods to assail. Also the middle keystone, EP (empowered psionics), buff blitzes (assail is a blitz).
no lol
in mortis
Precog bad 
indulgences
then no idea.
pregood
I haven't seen any
right those
There are some for assail, yes
no clue
noted
Burning and get assail when you get kills with assail
burning. still don't know that that actually means
You have a homing infernus lasgun.
Is it DoT from regular fire, SB, both??
Fire.
Who knows, FS does seem to.
i got fire ones
Fire, works with pryo tree well.
In terms of the trials buffs, people were seeing inconsistencies.
i will say, i'm also curious about the deathdealer indulgences
I took volt, so everything is randomly shocked as well.
One overriding another.
or 100% ranged cleave
Deathdealer + gunker = profit
My pref is colossus.
I have seen some silly things from that. lmao
You can shoot down a hallway for a minute or mor without reloading or getting any peril
Gold toughness?
Well, it barely breaks unless you are literally in a corner and being gunned down and whacked.
me
There is also one that gives your ranged attacks a little bit of stagger, guess what happens when you apply a little bit of stagger at the rate of a reconlas to a boss?
Permastun.
Unless it's a BoN.
BoN just gives no dooks.
Pogryn is guaranteed permastunned to death.
Tomorrow morning I begin the flight
Ok so there's this BB indulgence that's literally this and the brain fart meme
Hi.
Flight?? Trip?
The 10 targets one is huuuge
Or just pulling out Illisi to just stroke slash.
Or any of the "back off" indulgence
That's luck based.
I had a run where I only got bad ones.
Like, cannot be staggered.
is there anything i couldve done better in current havoc? the enemies always ended up in all orange, im using inferno and am i making it worse with fire spreads?
I was waiting for the ability cast number one for BB maxxing and it didn't show up.
sadge
I accidentally brought Dclaw 4 to trials
And parrysyker might be the strongest melee build atm
I'm extremely unlucky.
Do not use DoTs if they have the attack faster and do more blessing.
Unless you are sure your team can clean up fast.
Parrysyker or Psyker for short
apparently they couldnt and we failed like 6 times in a row
should i be using other staff and build instead?
Mentions a flight
Doesn't elaborate
Leaves
Also, congrats to @upper sun for hitting 1 million kills in your under 25 minute trial
He did it 
🎉
Now he can do the pox/vent/lights out penances
is it me or does it seem like electrokinesis staff generates a lot of warp for the damage it does
@analog agate Do you have advice for this? #psyker-class message
I haven't played the new havocs, so I can't speak to it.
probably would pack a voidstrike in that and just bowl 'em over
Maybe? I mean, built right, it pops non-ogryn pretty easily. And I've seen builds with a ton of peril reduction able to spam it like 10+ times in a bar.
Probably not fully charged, but like instant-charge
EK and trauma generate peril faster than inferno or VS.
The amount of peril generated by EK is directly proportional to the amount of fun it generates while playing
Aggressively stun and dodge around, then shriek and do it all over again, inject it right into my veins
Coughs.
what is
A vape lol
At good will???

surprised a vape even survived long enough to be sold at goodwill. usually those things stop charging after 2 years or some shit
I think fire. That's what cole or ainz said
10 eggs cracking is satisfying tho lmao
Yeah but that doesn't really matter because you just want something to proc lodestone
So either of those will work
It's a funny build
Orange enemies are the rampaging one that spread via death around them. There isn't a solution besides kill them
Orange = kill
Red = only make one red at a time or be sad
Purple = kill first
To keep it simple, kill everything on screen.
the assail buff is nice
agree though it didnt work out, not sure if team wasnt good or scoreboard was bugged, teammates always did 1/3-1/2 dmg of how much i did, thought i did something wrong
it was just lvl 33 havoc
people really declining requests in Havoc party finder more then anything now. 
fortshark's fault with the team derank lmao
the havoc eugenics are at their peak
terrible change
So looking at cosmetics through my inventory is letting me see the last three sets of items from Commodore's
Available for purchase as well
Is this ug
should just remove havoc down leveling
Intended?
didnt see it in patch notes but it has to be
True or false: Did Emperor's Fading Light (II) get nerfed in Havoc?
That's kind of nice, honestly. Seeing as I actually like the alternate vet helms from the Kasrkin set but missed them.
commodores has 2 past tabs
Yes I've been away silly
ig they just put that in cosmetics too
So bring shield?
I don't see that in the store? Just in my inventory.
Huh. Weird.
If shooters got nerfed, is it viable to bring Venting Shriek instead?
So yes to bringing Venting Shriek instead of half-assing my damage and edging my peril?
bring it why not
lmao i have no idea what frame the event even gave me
oh maybe mind wanderer
Mortis Trials is a lot of fun.
12 Waves, although the enemies are not as tough and harmful as they are in normal missions
scales up to 2.5x hp i think
just y'know you probably do more than 2.5x dmg in mortis
me throwing 500 box of nades............
oh yeah, that will do it. doing 80k single hit damage with the electricity 5% 1 shot
i think im defo gonna wait on havoc
it looks like it could be fun but the derank thing is so demoralizing
even friends don wanna touch it now lmao
Idk why I'm starting off at Havoc Rank 30 tbh. I haven't touched it in a while now
40 got lowered to 30 in new update
my dumb cycle is to do an Auric Mealstrom, then look at Havoc to see if any party wants me, the thing that annoys me though is having 2 Psyker's with Bubble is incredibly powerful but monkey brains want either 2 Zealots or Ogryn i guess. 
whats a decent dump stat for the electro staff
Warp Resistance
warp res
ok
ogryn is super strong now lmao
nice to see people want em
That's if you played and completed a 40, no?
Chat I might have cooked the wildest trial setup
it is but its still annoying waiting for 20 minutes just to find a party.
I think anything above 30
has anyone here made it back to 40
Screw this Pox Gas crap. Ain't doing it
its not very fun
Why FatShark do me like this?
it's not a frame, but one of those frame dongles that sits on the left.
oh lol
I know you have been gone but I didn't know you were on trip. Hope it was good.
Ummm I finished a trial and loaded into sefoni's room downed.
lmao
After playing with EK a bit after patch. The quell change makes it feel so much less responsive and smooth when I want to quell. It feel like I have to wait a second for my guy to even start to quell
They legit made it feel worse because people were whining that, like, 50 people world wide were doing lmb haha.
I know it could be fixed. But now I am annoyed my experience feels worse
i just tried the new gaze, really feels quite interesting in a good way, how you all feel it?
It ruins my gun psyker a little bit.
I can't use tranquillity through slaughter at high peril to rack up gun damage immediately.
Other than that, it is the same.
is focused channeling good?
it almost feel like is made for assail weaving, so you can cancel the peril from tossing some and build up damage with gun while it recharges crystals
Nah, you would want to throw assails when you are at max peril.
you do with warp unbound
yes
but I was talking more:
toss assails, reduce peril with gaze and start shooting, empty mag and gaze
Turn on SG at 90%, empty the gun, then throw assails.
You get less damage over like that.
then toss some more assails before swaping to gun again?
i just had the biggest wtf moment. a Burster literally looked like it was going to run passed me, no squad mates around, it then proceeds to turn around after walking passed me about 3m and jumps on me and kills me.
wtf was that AI trying to do.
Wasnt agro'ed to you
check from loadout config this one told true
it bugged decription
The world makes sense again
I hope they do buff precog to 5s because that validates me saying it's garbage over and over again
(BTW precog is garbage)
Yeah it was pretty nice but I'm back to work basically the night after I get back. It's gonna be so hard to readjust
that's the thing, it wasnt agro'd to anyone, it just happened to walk over to where i was and went passed me, then agro'd. 
@autumn smelt description was changed to 5 seconds, but its not actually 5 seconds, i just tested it
and the sky is green
yeah i heard about it already
they messed with how descriptions work this last update
not sure what part of it caused that but im assuming its related
Pretty sure it's blue, bro
Classic precog propagandist
I've seen green sky
Oh noooo rip. Glad trip was nice.
i really want "one with the warp" give number base to see how i can accumilate tdr %
as buff icon
is hard to tell how much tdr from your peril because 33% is maximum
Depends on the weapon. Force melees still have 2s. Things like knife and DS are saying 2s for precog. Be it from hadron or from loadout.
i even so need the warp splitting show % buff indicator
i tested ds is feel 2s
5s in desc
correct
i feel like they meant to buff it but forgot to change the real value of it lmfao
OMG. Why does this feel true?? lol
because theyve done stuff like that before
cannon
they did it twice with recon las guns, when they gave them to psyker and zealot
they added them but didnt put them in brunts store
so u couldnt buy them
and had to wait for one to show up in the rotating shops
(im not on)
can you send a picture of the 5s description
LMAO I forgot about that.
Agent was camping the shop rations.
Anyone got suggestion for blessings and perks for Autopistol Scryier?
they patch quell canceling?
yea think so
Is the Calv effect significant? How's autopistol hold up to Vraks Autogun
i recall reading that, tho i never quell canceled so i can't verify
yes
Quelling feels worse on EK for me. I can’t tell the difference on VB though
I can feel a difference on VB.
sprinting hipfire feels great
vraks outclasses it but not too wildly
Is "Disrupt Destiny" not working for anyone else?
It doesn't highlight any targets while in the Psykhanium and doesn't show up on the tab menu
In the mission, it highlighted targets and showed up on the tab menu, however the two addtional upgrades past the keystone did not show up and did not work
(specifically the duration one and extra stack on weakspot kill)
I've also had issues with it. I'll get the short buff on kill, but the stacking precision buff often won't appear in my buff bar
- doesn't work on psykhanium
- Sometimes the buff icon disappears
buff bar had a hard time appearing on the buff bar
you still have the buffs
but it doesnt say
also tab seemed to show perfectionism even if you had lingering influence
ahhh okay, and yeah i meant the precision stack buffs
it worked after i ticked it on and off and went into the psykhanium before going into a mission
yeah maybe just visual then hopefully
seems something got changed with the tox bomber and shield interaction now, now i get purple damage in shield when i didn't previous when inhaling all the gas
man some of the stuff that can happen on havoc now is nutty
we had a plague ogryn, twins, and a captain spawn and one of them had the healing buff
like lol
you can immediately get twins when the dark communion mid event starts, the door even opens though apparently you can't take the elevator before the event boss is dead
FREEDOM
Oh I’m just not going to bother
It would involve playing smite and doing cliffhanger
Blaze swords have been amazing at repelling poxbursters
Wanna play duo later? Maybe different map the escape of exise vault too hard
I need to do Malleus Monstrorum and get the Scrier's 40 kills penance
sure, maybe in 7+ hours or so
For the scriers kills try just playing the game
Any auric+ should get it pretty reliably
guys how do i hide the default peril gauge ? tried to with Custom HUD mod but theres no option to hide
new havoc is fun as hell
Peril Gauge let's you customize it and even make it invisible.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/243
thank you 😄
37 havoc rank so far this season
Pick pyro tree
look inside
shock
Whoah..
Technical question about power and DOTs, two kinds of interactions are interesting to me. 1) Ogryn with crunch and/or thrust + DOT from bleed (batter talent) Does extra power from those perk and/or blessing works with batter? Or extra power gets removed before bleed is applied? 2) Psyker with purgatus set ups. If my memory serves me right, DOT dmg scales from your power at the time of application, so if I stack some stacks at low power, but gain some more later, do I overwrite old stacks with more powerful ones or they all get empowered is I apply one stack of more powerful one? Does shriek with warp fire talent get any benefit from warp rider? Or peril drops before any fire is applied by ability?
Forgive old talent names memory is not my strongest suite.
Generally speaking, weapon blessings apply to your DoT if the weapon is in your hand
how it going for you guys
im playing wilds now even though i feel worlds is more fun but i spent lke 90 dollars
"at the time of application" isn't true, DoTs do not 'capture' the buffs at application
If your buff expires, your damage lowers. Simple as.
DoT reflect whatever buff you have atm
not just from weapon blessings
like on zealot if you take AIB, your flame grenade does more damage when you swap to ranged
certain power blessings (headtaker) only buff the weapon itself
others (slaughterer) are a global buff and can buff dots too
its more nuanced cuz of what buffs each blessing actually uses
they should just let zealot carry 2 melee
and doesnt affect dots

wish the enhanced descriptions mod distinguished between them
or, y'know, Fatshark

but like it was said
dots arent snapshotted, every tick is based on the current applicable buffs the moment the tick happens
its why youd see someone with an uncanny lacerate knife bleeding crushers for 212ish dmg per tick with max bleed stacks, but when uncanny on their knife runs out it jumps down to like 20 without anything else changing
Huh
Apparently the melee portion of the FGS special staggers crushers and ragers in combo
myes very true
like for example, sword and dagger
i had more than you last i checked
big sword enjoyers just can't stop winning
Hello ?, can someone help me how to build me ? :c
Only lights out you had more
thats enough suffering imo

i need to finish trials now
Lights out trials when?
I didn't know about crushers. I knew the others because it's like big illisi.
You probably have to hit the head. I didn't test it for non-weakspot hits.
im level 30
Neither did I. I'll test next time I'm in game... if I remember.
Normally i play with the greatsword and the fire staff ( i dont remember the name) im trying havoc but man, that shit is hard af
Inferno
Purgatus 
Deadnaming 😭
😭
Can someone here help me with which weapons you recommend for Havoc? And what skill tree should I use, please?
:ccc
You can use this with your fire staff and then I would recommend deimos force sword or mk4 dueling sword for single target damage
For non havoc this inferno build is good. #psyker-class message
I haven't played havoc with the new changes, but I've heard bubble is less needed and meta auric builds might be very similar to havoc builds now.
is this work for havoc ?
That's specifically my havoc build for those weapons, yes
At least old havoc, should still work though. If you don't need the bubble anymore it's still more safety which is good to have for newer players
Plus bubble on bonbon is funny
We need to play new havoc
4 EK staves, let's go
Pit the cup on a bug.
👀
If everything is stunned, it can't attack us
If SB dips below 31 we failed. Lmao
Less needed but still super nice to have.
EK bubble, the forbidden build
im still at 8/9 morrow trials after 3 games
Sucks
Booo
Why you suck so much?
(like me)
All these h40 clearance guys failing h30
FeelsGood
Sorry. It was me.
nooo you still need bubble, bonbon and specials will ruin your day
I want to see these news meta build.
Shriek becoming meta because of less ranged ennemies... ?
havoc 3 is gonna be easy mode
no way fatshark would allow something actually hard
Can still run buble it's fine. Shriek would do more damage for sure
I'm gonna run bubble because I'm scared. Unless there are 2 other bubble psykers, the shriek time for sure.
But yeah bubble just for bonbon is nice
Bubble still fine
I mean
maybe my opinion doesn't count since I was a bubbler in auric
When it's 2 or 3 monsters running around having bubble so team don't get puked on is clutch
but as always the bubble does bubble things 
Less needed vs not needed
but bonbon is just giving the ogryn a short break, is fine, much needed rest
But also ye I've never been mad to see a bubble user on the team.
Cup on a bug funny
the psyker with KD:
Bubble the whole place
you aren't holding aggro if you just block
I have, because they also used smite 
You presume any of my team is alive to take aggro
I blocked that combo out of my mind
don't have to sit in it, it's like wall so long as ranged is on the other side 😌
Still waiting for them to buff Dclaw so I can take it into auric and have it not be trash the moment I need anything other than parry
Just don't stick your head out of the bubble and get sniped ... Repeatedly
I tried dclaw charged strike autopistol. It wasn't good 
which part, all of it?
Me having no carapace damage
https://youtu.be/A8TqySFR_Y8 Still have this
I wish charged strike was all melee attacks and not just heavy
Same, I prefer lights for horde
Illisi H1L2 loop 
Screw Illisi, all my homies hate Illisi
I never did learn my lesson.
Ultimate synergy, bubble team, use smite on horde, so the horde can't reach team and people will leave bubble to kill. Team gets shot, bubble is empty. POTG. 
That's just me using bubble smite every day.

I was stanning purg bubble psyker with left talents and keystone, and they called me a noob, no synergy build. 🤦♂
Havok gets added, it becomes a meta crutch 
I mean, whoever told you purg/bubble has no synergy even before Havoc is not the brightest bulb in the shed
They are like: shriek = more DMG... Infinite shields are useless. You. Need. Those. Extra. Stacks. To. Do. More. DMG. Like purg dosnt melt hordes. Smh
It's not like there is insane single target weapon options on psyker for bosses.
Did the fix extra points on surge staff mastery btw? Or it's the new (old) norm?
Haven't even checked 
Don't think they did
Smh.
It's cuz they're going to add another blessing, trust
Just add blaze away to surge staff and we will be friends @random token
New scry -50% peril any good? Or not useful?
Super good
Granted, but it only gives one stack per RMB and you can't RMB quick enough to maintain stacks

Screenshot so old, it still showing cover based shooter game.
Nooooooooo. You have been a chosen one.
One stack per blast would be fine. Ability to maintain it tho....
I wish they added a mk of EK where it just shoots lightning as long as you hold RMB and does damage over time... and is a beam.
Or what other blessing could work well with it? I had 3 ideas:
- Warp fire on crit like trauma, working with secondary fire ofc. on all targets who are hit. 2 ways:
op fun way: every hit applies it, so crit = max stacks.
Balanced variant: last part of hit applies it, so only one application per secondary on each target. - Blaze away.
- Secondary fire focused blessing: hit more targets with better DMG spreading.
Thrust
yes
Haymaker, but make bash work as heavy
I mean, specials do count as heavies for some things
Was a viable way to regen toughness on Ogryn before the rework
Don't think so. Ogryn ones all counted as heavy, but definitely saw ripper gun patch notes and they are supposed to be light ones.
Not sure about stubers or kickback and co
the shotgun special worked with it
(how does the db compare to the normal shotgun)
On psyker specifically I would say yes
Flurry+Blaze away on my nonsense build.
Psyker gets enough damage/finesse to make the regular ass zarona shotgun do most of what you'd want the DB to do
and it has more ammo and better boss damage
Actually viable talents build.
Zealot/Vet would both prefer DB if they don't REALLY hate Reapers
This guns boss damage is way funnier on veteran, but the build you have to use for that doesn't play nice with the shotgun
@plucky flax I'll be around for the next 4-5 hours
nah it's a 400000 aquila skin
you missed the store rotation though so you can't get it anymore
🤨
After food.
https://imgur.com/a/t1hEFSF it's a very funny gun
fun to mess around with every once in awhile but just bad enough to leave a sour taste in your mouth if you keep using it
which shotgun is that? the burn shell one, the slug one, or the one no one uses?
the one no one uses
it has by far the highest finesse modifier and unyielding damage of any shotgun
Zarona?
I use zarona almost exclusively
Agripinaa is fine too but i can't stand kantarel
For staff, you have M1 EK, for gun you have recon las, brauto or the pretty strong but forgotten IAR.
I'm around.
Meleeker feels pretty mindless after the buffs
Ok, I'm ready
both probably fine
aside from the whole HP of a fly thing you relaly do just get to be in scriers gaze forever
I already dropped one with the warp because of low peril in the build, maybe I should also drop warp rider 
Stroke sword.... wait, FGS stroke is too slow to aboose.
Yeah, sad life as a gunker
Stroke QQ Stroke
Simple as
Discount Illisi special spam
And then you kill two enemies and it's all quelled again
Bad on controller. And block cancel is also a tad slow.
You try swapping mid combat.
On controller.
Nu, panic harder.
OH CMON
I GOT THE FUCKING PENANCE
AND THE GAME CRASHED AND IT DIDNT COUNT
WHAT THE FUCK
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
btw, I have found BR to be a decent blitz for a Fire Trauma build, because I can use Flayer to kill ogryn enemy groups faster while stunlocking them with the explosion...
the only problem with that is the fact I can't take the 6 stacks WS augment with it, so I can't get a bigger damage buff...
then again, I am extremely stingy with ulting when running 6 stack WS, because I'm too scared of losing all that damage bonus...
That is the main draw of smite
Drawback is that your team is conspiring about the barrels they can cliff you with
because someone spread smite hate
that rot their brain as bandwagon
no smykers are just boring gameplay wise
should be fine as long as they dont use it all the time though
you get boring gameplay and good teammate or without smite and total death teammate because nobody good control scab crowd + elites swam.
it can be tool to help when no one has nade to stun or they forgot to throw it.
@upper sun I can finally play hammer with the new charged attack change
actually fighting elite hoards is fun though
what change what hammer
I mean you don't lose charge to a poxwalker looking at you funny anymore
It's fixed for all special activation weapon.
it wasnt that bad tbh
It feels a lot nicer now.
the issue is they made it worse for one patch
It was when you charge at ogryn and got hit by something.
so they had to actually fix it 
Now you keep your special attack no matter what
Yeah, hammer felt better after that change



