psyker-class

[wind spruce]

It has a nice feel to it

[drifting steeple]

i've been thinking about it, my dad has an e reader

[wind spruce]

Particularly worth it if you're travelling

But you don't get to own the book for your bookshelf which is a big downside

[tribal echo]

does it matter which archetype you pick for certain upgrades

in horde mode

[drifting steeple]

i dont even have a bookshelf

these books are tomorrow me's problem

[tribal echo]

i have piles of books next to my book case because its full :/

[upper sun]

btw

the talent for quell on crit hit

it counts teammates

[jovial juniper]

Death dealer doesn't really work with staff

[drifting steeple]

i've just been using this dinky ass cabinent that barely fits them all, i have to place some facing forward to fit them all

starting to move some to my bf's house

he has more space xe

xd

[tribal echo]

i got one with 10 enemy brain burst i and i forgot how

[drifting steeple]

i got that one from the electro fire archetype

[jovial juniper]

I think that one is just about having BB

Since I was a pyro BB

[tribal echo]

ah makes sense

[marble crater]

Can we get that upgrade for regular BB?

[analog agate]

The 10 BB is great

[wind spruce]

As in shooting teammates?

[upper sun]

yee

[wind spruce]

Lmao

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-adorable-duckling-haha-classic-gif-17283485

[elfin mango]

which melee weapon do you prefer for psyker?

[marble crater]

Depends on the rest of my build, Dueling Sword, Illisi, Deimos and FGS are all great depending on what staff you use

[jovial juniper]

Illisi my goat

[drifting steeple]

where the taxe fiends coming out the woodwork

[cosmic sigil]

Taxe

[copper jay]

@strong gulch Meta changed for builds ?

[drifting steeple]

called it

[marsh wharf]

Hi using psyker again after an eon can someone recommend me some build setups pls

[marble crater]

There are some builds pinned

[shut marsh]

Deimos + Scrier's Gaze when pulled of right is so satisfying

[analog agate]

No

[drifting steeple]

theres something about taxe that drives a certain subgroup of individuals cray cray

i get it

i totally get it

[cosmic sigil]

we're a cult

[marsh wharf]

Is scriers worth it on staves?

[copper jay]

Bean is my lighthouse in hte dark.

[copper jay]

Thanks !

[cosmic sigil]

SHADOW TAXE GANG

[copper jay]

Ok

Try to convert me to Taxe

[drifting steeple]

nah im more of a caxe girly

[drifting steeple]

thunk

[analog agate]

Become a zealot player. They are the ones who are obsessing over it atm haha

[copper jay]

Eeriette you changed your bug for Sefoni ?

[drifting steeple]

we can all collectively share the love

[drifting steeple]

i paid for this

[analog agate]

I suck too much to play taxe

[copper jay]

But I hate everything about Zealot : People playing Zealot, their lines are uninspired, their weapons,

[shut marsh]

I don't think so but then again I always use a gun
I just remember trying to use a staff with Scrier's and not getting good results

[copper jay]

... How much ?

[drifting steeple]

$15 usd

[copper jay]

...

Why ?

[drifting steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[copper jay]

So

[ornate hamlet]

Full great force sword build ?

[copper jay]

I can only love : Psyker (90% of my heart), Medic Build Veteran (5%) and Ogryn (5%)

But Medic Build, Veterans are cooking, maybe we will see something soon

[shut marsh]

Ogryn mentioned, I can die happy

[drifting steeple]

i can only love

erm

yeah same ratio but vet and zealot at %5

[jovial juniper]

On EK

For more crits

[drifting steeple]

really

[jovial juniper]

Or just attacking past 100

[clear heath]

man i slept for 12 hours
Is mettle fixed yet?

[drifting steeple]

downloading the more loadout mod rn

[copper jay]

There is only Zealot I HATE

But every others classes, I like

[drifting steeple]

yes

[clear heath]

wow

[copper jay]

I have the feeling Veteran are ... Veteran of Darktide. They are always pro players moves

[marble crater]

Fixed and nerfed

[drifting steeple]

i only like vet a smidge more than zealot bc helbore lasgun

[cosmic sigil]

#zealot-class message

[copper jay]

If i'm ban, that'll be your fault

[copper jay]

What Mark ?

[drifting steeple]

the green one

[copper jay]

I tried the long rifle/sniper one but this is not precise and I hated that

[drifting steeple]

lemme check hang on

[deft stump]

Pray for heal nades, and pray it don't spawn with triple shout.

[marsh wharf]

Question I know psyker is a bit more staff focused but which of the pinned buidls work well with the blace greatsword?

[copper jay]

Thanks !

[marsh wharf]

I wanna try levelling that first

[copper jay]

Do you have the medic build ?

[ornate hamlet]

Can someone comment on this one I want to go full melee ty🫡

[copper jay]

Assail

[marble crater]

Greatsword is an allrounder weapon, it's good against hordes and armor, so it would work with all of them, if you don't care about the lack of mobility

[drifting steeple]

and if you say "convince me to like helbore lasgun" idk what to tell you i go by vibes

[copper jay]

I dont use the same technique twice

[drifting steeple]

@copper jay lucius mark IIIa

[copper jay]

I think this is not the one I used

[drifting steeple]

i cannot tell you why its good it just makes my monkey brain happy

i do prefer its special compared to the slash one tho

[copper jay]

Yeah I was using the MKIV

So how do you counter Carapace ?

[deft stump]

'Nadier.

[marsh wharf]

Also what do I want my curio setup to be

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/10-gif-10454989151391905331

[glacial vapor]

Chaxe

[fiery stratus]

Yeh just an antiarmor melee

[drifting steeple]

ask someone else to do it

[patent mango]

live sefoni reaction

[glacial vapor]

Could just use kraks

[marble crater]

Health and toughness, don't take wounds, later you can add a stamina curio for mobility and more block shenaningans

[drifting steeple]

this is true

[fiery stratus]

Just run a folding shovel and don't get hit, ez

[marsh wharf]

Whats the dump stat on the greatsword?

[marble crater]

Warp res

[copper jay]

Warp res is the answer to everything except voidstrike

[elfin mango]

Scrier's Gaze is amazing! Just didnt find the right melee, i love the Covenant but it feels sometimes not right

[patent steeple]

the greatsword? which mk did you try?

you also might wanna consider using Wrath (cleave on hit) and Momentum (toughness gain on cleave) blessings on the mk6 greatsword (the best mk imo).

[patent steeple]

btw, does fire staff's right click count as a primary attack for triggering Empyric Shock (primary staff attack increases damage taken by the target from warp attacks)?

[fringe robin]

Anyone know why I got revived here @ 00:24?

Havoc, last player alive

[wispy bay]

Do you have Crystalized Will?

[fringe robin]

No

[upper sun]

the will of the emperor

[fringe robin]

Ah, this is it lol

[patent steeple]

btw, after some testing in the meat grinder, I can confirm that soulblaze DoT can activate Kinetic Flayer.

kind of sucks that we can't choose which eligible target gets hit by KF if using a fire staff, though...

[raven mountain]

I believe it does now.

I mean, you kinda weren't before either. Spraying the horde with the actual staff spray was already proccing it kinda randomly.

[quartz barn]

Ye any direct dmg source can proc it

And they changed it a while ago to only hit elites and specials

[patent steeple]

cool! I guess I can try it out to make inferno staff better at single target (for some reason...)

[raven mountain]

What's cute now is that shriek will proc it.

[patent steeple]

I have 2 excess points regardless on my inferno build, so I guess I should put them into MOAR DAMAGE!!

[raven mountain]

And if it kills the target, that's 9 stacks on horde, which is a death sentence.

[civic vector]

Why i don't c much psykers in the new mode ?

[raven mountain]

Because ogryn got huge changes.

Common enough to do 4 ogryn groups. Have yet to do a match with less than 2.

[radiant frigate]

for some reason i thought the new mode was a solo thing

immediately less interested

[ornate hamlet]

psykers secretly got the buff

[topaz cloud]

Noobish psyker here. What's the secret to doing damage with Assail? I feel like I throw them out and they aren't do much damage except to maybe shotgunners. I'm trying to finisht the assail penance and it is slow going.

[radiant frigate]

what are you throwing it at

if it's anything bigger than a mauler, just don't

[glacial vapor]

You could use the EP keystone if you want to kill more specials with it

Remember to use the alt throw when appropriate

[topaz cloud]

Is alt throw the right click targeting or is there a mouse 4 or whatever throw, too?

[radiant frigate]

that's the one

mostly for distant targets

[ornate hamlet]

Great for dealing w snipers

[radiant frigate]

like snoipers

[ornate hamlet]

Especially w the crit rate that thing has

[topaz cloud]

Right, gotcha ok. I'll try out EP with it. I had been doing the DD keystone for the other penance and haven't switched off it.

[ornate hamlet]

Assails also great for weaving the horde down

It's a good skill

[radiant frigate]

also worth using with scrier's + warp unbound

go to 100% peril -> unleash the superpowered assail barrage

[topaz cloud]

Yeah, already on those. It's been great for horde clear just felt like I was tickling elites and specials.

[ornate hamlet]

It's great against flesh

Pretty useless on flak

[topaz cloud]

Thanks all for the suggestions.

[ornate hamlet]

Watxh everything around you burn

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

Inferno staff is great for this too

[marble crater]

Secret to do damage with assail is that you throw it at the enemy

[wispy bay]

Turn on SG then spam VStrike with Blazing and Surge, it is hilariously beautiful.

[copper jay]

I want to become the best voidblast enjoyer.

[copper jay]

A lot of ammos perks

And staves ...

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-dr-evil-mike-myers-come-join-us-come-here-gif-4627161

[copper jay]

Thanks ! I'll never use Purg/Inferno. I want to improve my gameplay

[zinc phoenix]

Alright guys there’s a patch on, how is meleeker? Havoc viable or is it still bubble bitch central?

[marble crater]

You might want to sit down

[zinc phoenix]

Uh oh

[analog agate]

They nerfed fading light somewhat. So bubble isn’t as mandatory. But then again, no one had gotten to 40 yet

[marble crater]

They also buffed entire right side of psyker

[zinc phoenix]

🚿 🍆

[marble crater]

Imagine if Gaze and Shriek had a baby, that's new Gaze

[zinc phoenix]

I can dig it

[analog agate]

Still funny they buffed assail

[marble crater]

Doubled Crack of Bone

[marble crater]

DD refreshes on boss hits

[zinc phoenix]

Time for my poor mouse to fuckin die of clicks

Any changes to what’s good on bigsword?

Or did that basically all stay the same

[analog agate]

Fgs is same

[marble crater]

Stayed the same, our weapons weren't touched

Except for the activation changes

[zinc phoenix]

Que?

Is it easier to moonbeam now?

I’m just gonna go wrath deflector and be a total monkey

[marble crater]

Don't lose the special anymore when you get hit, things like that

You also missed the mettle bug

[alpine delta]

I've always avoided Charged Strike because 1) the damage was pitiful and 2) I'd heard it doesn't interact with Enfeeble. Is there a case to be made for it now at 64 dmg instead of 16? Does it actually not trigger the Enfeeble state on heavy strike?

[marble crater]

Watch this #psyker-class message

[clear heath]

so powerful

[zinc phoenix]

what the actual f????

what is happening here

[zinc phoenix]

esplain it to me like one of your french boys

[clear heath]

charged strike is now 4x stronger

ranged weapon bashes count as heavies

staff h2 has like stupid cleave

[zinc phoenix]

does it also work on bigsword?

[clear heath]

i doubt it works on the projectile of the big slice.
Should work on the sword itself as you'd expect as long as you heavy

[zinc phoenix]

i think ima do standard assail line first and then try heavy smite action

[clear heath]

I think it'd probably be a bit redundant on fgs cause you'll just kill the things you heavy attack anyways

[analog agate]

I imagine Illisi would be fun with charged strike

[cloud night]

It.procs with the staff melee?
Cool

[zinc phoenix]

did they gut unstable?

[clear heath]

Isn't it still the same?

[zinc phoenix]

5% str on peril

i feel like i remember it being 20?

[clear heath]

Maybe that's just a description change?

[analog agate]

It is. Up to 20%

[upper sun]

now we just need a passive indicator

[marble crater]

No

[proper osprey]

ITS GOOD NOW?

Mmmmm

Maybe melee psyker should give it a try

[jovial juniper]

It useable that's for sure

[open creek]

WTF, now you're stirring the leeks with the stick like a whisk is stirring cake batter? Before, the secondary attack was a joke.

[proper osprey]

I’d wanna try with the dc or tac axe

[open creek]

The secondary attack from Antax MkV also better? 🤔

[upper sun]

🤔

should i do a smite melee build now 🤔

[marble crater]

Yes

[proper osprey]

Idk what melee to pair with it

[upper sun]

illisi

lets do zero carapace damage

[proper osprey]

Uncanny strike

[upper sun]

🚬 even with it

[open creek]

U can still use brainburst. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[proper osprey]

What da hell

[upper sun]

were smiting now

[proper osprey]

How are you building your melee psyker

[upper sun]

idk

[summer prairie]

52 minute havoc 40, way too long compared to the other maps we did

[upper sun]

im just gonna go gunker with more melee slop

[jovial juniper]

Shock Maul

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e4423cc-e20d-4015-a037-f57a167b4bce/my-melee-psyker?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[jovial juniper]

Something something scaling with impact

[proper osprey]

I’m actually considering it

[zinc phoenix]

ok so the grinder mode is hard because the teammates are utter garbo

[proper osprey]

Dose enfeeble work on it?

[zinc phoenix]

i had to clutch like 6 times on wave 6 and after the 8th pogryn + bulwark horde i finally got got 😂

[paper harbor]

got got?

[zinc phoenix]

it is an old people slang for died

[open creek]

Maybe MkII Staff for burning/high crit build with Obscurus MkII for carapace + Brainburst for nasty elites.

Thats my build. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[zinc phoenix]

havoc is deader than the corpse emperor

[open creek]

And now the candy with the secondary attack Smite from Staff, nice.👍🏻

[paper harbor]

havoc too hard?

[zinc phoenix]

no idea

[paper harbor]

i guess that's why majority can't go play

[zinc phoenix]

no one is playing it

[paper harbor]

probably reserve for hardcore one

the rest play damnation

or heresy

as normal gamemode

[patent mango]

the derank change is just abysmal so i dont wanna play havoc either lmao

[zinc phoenix]

the low levels of havoc are dead easy

[analog agate]

People doing mortis. Havoc was already dead before. Now the people who were playing were trying out trials

[zinc phoenix]

oh yeah that sucks

[analog agate]

And derank means for most do premade. Not pubs

[paper harbor]

trials sound fun because rougelike concept

[zinc phoenix]

"join a mong party with no control over other peoples builds and risk your rank"

[paper harbor]

20s grenade regen

that shit is very good

[zinc phoenix]

i guess i already got true soul so i no longer care about havoc

[patent mango]

just let me choose the rank i wanna play.......

[analog agate]

It is nice having all the penances done for it so I don’t care about ranking

[zinc phoenix]

the only one i didnt finish was the "100 mission" one

[clear heath]

Choice? In my Darktide? Never!

[summer prairie]

at the very least you shouldn't lose attempts for doing havocs under your assignment level

[zinc phoenix]

idk why havoc isnt in the standard party finder

idk why there is even a derank thing

[paper harbor]

darktide number of player are niche anyway

i think why space marine 2 are popular with lot number i assume

[zinc phoenix]

just put the player at the highest level they can complete and let people pick the rank they want to play

[deft stump]

4 'nades a min.

[zinc phoenix]

nty on playing space mong 2

[paper harbor]

darktide marketing suck

[zinc phoenix]

lmao space mong 2 has less players

[deft stump]

But then you have rare bad apples trolling lower games.

[zinc phoenix]

https://steamdb.info/app/2183900/charts/ https://steamdb.info/app/1361210/charts/

[paper harbor]

oh after they played campagin?

[zinc phoenix]

i guess the apes are sick of such a dumb game

[summer prairie]

@deft stump true I guess

[paper harbor]

the game sm2 is alright for my view, other see as glorious

[summer prairie]

but that was the case before already

[zinc phoenix]

if it were good it wouldnt be on the highway to dead game and underperforming a game that came out years before

[paper harbor]

i just finish the campagin felt short

total gameplay would be 8 hour

is alright not very long

like finish an appitizer

[zinc phoenix]

who the f plays shooter campaigns

[paper harbor]

me and my friend

[zinc phoenix]

yikes

[paper harbor]

they lock ops mission

because you need play full campagin

to play co-op gamemodes

[zinc phoenix]

😂

that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard

[paper harbor]

thats space marine for you

[zinc phoenix]

"play this godawful trash campaign or you cant play mp"

[paper harbor]

well actaully you need play certain chapters mission it wll unlock slow and steady

they not lock full mp gamemode behind

[marble crater]

Halo campaign up to 4 was peak though

[paper harbor]

they just lock the mission co-op mode

missions

not co-op mode

so i can't play first mission in co-op mode if i haven't finish first mission campagin

if i finished half campagin ill get half mission co-op mode unlocked

due to lore reason fore told

[proper osprey]

The sleepiest 1 million damage ever

Melee psyker my beloved

[upper sun]

illisi is fucking shit

smite?

still shit

this was actually the first time i went down in a trials game

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/not-you-seamus-gif-24731889

[plucky flax]

Trying to play new havoc and these guys suck man

[sinful peak]

havoc is way harder right I'm not crazy?

[upper sun]

what the fuck... they finally have a good title

[analog agate]

Yeah but 50 trials to get it 😬

[zinc phoenix]

l m a o

[upper sun]

no

is it?

[buoyant maple]

Poxbreaker is still the best

[zinc phoenix]

ive gone down twice from crashing

[analog agate]

I think its 50

Im not in game to confirm

[zinc phoenix]

rewards for trials are a bunch of worthless mats

[upper sun]

its more like 20

[analog agate]

Penance is where the title comes from

[upper sun]

yeah

its the warband penance

[zinc phoenix]

you have to get 16 memory lines

[lone wing]

illisi is good. smite is OP and boring

[sinful peak]

havoc 30 is way harder than old 40, mini bosses and captains on top of everything else is messed up

[open creek]

I think it is a thing of taste and style and preferences.

[upper sun]

they both SUCK

[lone wing]

illisi yes

smite is quite literally game breaking

which is why smykers are shunned

[marble crater]

I think smykers are shunned because it's very obvious when the player is bad and uses it in a bad way, with other abilities it's not that obvious.

[clear heath]

smykers are shunned because it's annoying

[marble crater]

Smyker stunning 5 poxwalkers is a lot more obvious than someone using BB on bad targets

[lone wing]

bb doesn't stun the entire fucking horde

[marble crater]

Yes, kinda my point

[clear heath]

smykers turn me into a bad zealot

i don't like fighting shit that doesn't fight back so i just run off and leave the stunned enemies to the psyker

surely they can handle it

[cloud night]

psyker goes down 2 seconds later

[marble crater]

Does that also apply to smiting a wave of muties or the crusher and bulwark gang that is descending on us? Because those are about the only situations when I use it

[clear heath]

depends on how long. probably not

[analog agate]

“WTF are you guys DOING‽ I was holding them down for YOU! GOD you guys SUCk”

[clear heath]

I'll usually help with killing stunned muties and bulwarks. fuck those things

As soon as it feels like my job has been to clean up unmoving enemies for too long, i get kinda sick of it and find something else to fight. Really just depends on duration

[marble crater]

As soon as the number goes down enough I switch to EK staff anyway, I only use smite in hound/mutie/burster maelstrom to begin with I hate smite, but I hate those things more

[clear heath]

I don't even really pick missions with the gimmicky waves like dog waves

they just feel like a gimmick that you just waste time trivializing every once in a while

I just specifically choose HiShock or 3Veg most of the time

[marble crater]

There is not much choice for doing maelstrom
But I do specifically pick lights out /vent purge /pox gas to finish the penances

[upper sun]

why does illisi do ZERO maniac damage?

[clear heath]

?

it one shots mutants

Pretty okay against ragers too. Not too unrealistic to get enough buffs to one shot one

[clear heath]

skill issue

[upper sun]

🙄

it has negative cleave

[clear heath]

simply stack more buffs

[upper sun]

simply ur noob

[clear heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1311384845204848853/illisi_propaganda.gif?ex=67e6ddcf&is=67e58c4f&hm=4544993263a370d0e46630901e08753ab308fcd3379c1ca54f71775845a87ccd&

[upper sun]

tanner take

erm lemme stack 999 buffs to showcase average usage of a weapon

[clear heath]

perfectly normal amount of buffs to stack before fighting 1 crusher

[upper sun]

🙄

[noble panther]

hi. can anybody help me with cliffhanger and malleus monstronum penances?

please please please

[clear heath]

I should actually try using the 25 stack dd node now that base duration is buffed

[upper sun]

i just closed the game 😭

gimmie like 10-15 minutes

[noble panther]

these are the only two I have to get

@upper sun alright ping me up when you're good to go

[plucky flax]

Why slander?

You're just bad at illisi bruh

[clear heath]

I honestly don't know how he's doing so little with the illisi

Maybe i actually just have DD up every time I hit a mutant

I do have maniac perk tho

[jovial juniper]

[copper jay]

But we are VB users. We will never discard our staff.

[analog agate]

I mean. That was zealot chat showing the superiority of mk8

[cloud night]

Hab dreyko, that last little ledge on the way to where you're fucking off back to the thunderhawk

[upper sun]

its MID

[upper sun]

okie

for clifhanger you need smite

[clear heath]

clad is jealous he can't play illisi well

[noble panther]

5788078564 - my FATSHARK FRIEND CODE

whatever it is

[plucky flax]

Tru

[elfin mango]

both, i like MK VI more but they both doesnt feel great with Scriers

[patent steeple]

did you try it with Momentum (toughness gain from cleaving 3 enemies blessing)? I use that with Wrath on the mk6, and its very good at mitigating the worse dodges

[elfin mango]

i didnt, will try it

[broken carbon]

they do very well with scriers

i run precog riposte mk6

[thorn cedar]

Why did they fuck with the mk8 move set ;_;

[broken carbon]

how’d they change it ?

[thorn cedar]

sweep heavy after swap/sprint now goes into overhead instead of another sweep heavy

Then again all of the Psyker changes do have me going bwwuuuuhhh

[noble panther]

@upper sun thanks anyway :))

[upper sun]

no problem

[buoyant maple]

@patent mango I'm pleased to inform u that branx pickaxe is absurdly cracked at boss dmg

even without heavy atks

[strong gulch]

I heard mettle fix but also mettle nerf

tell pls

[analog agate]

Mettle was nerfed?

[strong gulch]

@marble crater Do you know?

[clear heath]

you mean how it doesn't activate on misses now?

[strong gulch]

Sadge

back to that again

[clear heath]

that's how it worked prepatch anyways

[marble crater]

Yes "nerf" because it's fixed now

[strong gulch]

Ye. I was hoping that would stay

feck

[marble crater]

Nope

[clear heath]

just hit enemies

[strong gulch]

well at least it's not "only activates on every third hit" or something like that

I was genuinely scared

[marble crater]

True Mettle

[latent hill]

Right… someone said a smite nerf or something for havoc

[jovial juniper]

Something something

Enemies receive CC immunity at some point

[latent hill]

Yeah that.

Respectfully, it only makes the team have to reconsider their target priorities, nothing more.

At least that’s what I feel.

[zinc phoenix]

this new mode is boring af

[latent hill]

Mortis?

[analog agate]

You have come upon our conclusion

[zinc phoenix]

i dont care enough to finish penances for it lol

[patent mango]

lmao yeah

branx is crazy fun

[near gale]

#darktide-pics-vids message this is the new thing

Look at that skill

It's already opened

[rich spindle]

Mortis needs to be way harder

[patent mango]

new bulwark counter dropped

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1354901937123754054/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.03.27_-_15.35.42.01.mp4?ex=67e6fa42&is=67e5a8c2&hm=a47856fcac75107494cf26c7efa29737a9259fbd3e6c8760e84ac23993809fb5&

[near gale]

Clad, using 200% brain efficiency

[plucky flax]

The ogryn talent for no movement speed penalty is op

[near gale]

Did u see the new bulwark meta?

[buoyant maple]

with full tree support for melee dps talents, max possible dmg juice (in normal conditions) look like this:
Karsolas: x456.75% dmg
Cleaver IV: x424.125% dmg
Branx: x417.774% dmg

[rich spindle]

It feels so good

[plucky flax]

Finally ogryn can feel fast

[rich spindle]

It should be default kit honestly

[buoyant maple]

wat

[near gale]

#darktide-pics-vids message

[patent mango]

do you know how long bash dmg increase lasts for?

[buoyant maple]

3.5s, same as headtaker

but

special hit applies dmg taken debuff

and heavy overhead is quite slow in terms of recovery

so I think torment is more practical than thrust

u can get 2 light atks out very fast & very safely

[patent mango]

hmm

[rich spindle]

New havoc is super hard with randos

[patent mango]

am gonna go try torment later

[small whale]

even with premade its pretty hard

[rich spindle]

You can’t really dps your way out of everything as psyker anymore

[patent mango]

i also need to get a status effect mod to test stuff better

[near gale]

didn't u kno, tho? The shield of an open bulwark is obviously its weak spot (this is a joke)

[rich spindle]

The bosses and captains are kind of a hard psyker counter

[patent mango]

i died in rain world while i was typing here

lmao oops

[buoyant maple]

this is without carapace perk

[rich spindle]

2 psykers feels like too much now tbh

[analog agate]

This with the normal slaughterer and thrust or you taking headtaker instead of thrust?

[near gale]

get rekt bish

[buoyant maple]

I have unyielding + elite on my branx

[patent mango]

those are some crazy lights

[buoyant maple]

this is headtaker + torment which I think is the best

[patent mango]

i could just buy another branx too to have it be torment

[buoyant maple]

full tree

[analog agate]

Ah torment is tenderiser

[buoyant maple]

haven't yet tested cleave vs stagger for branx

maybe go cleave over stagger

for karsolas, stagger is better

[patent mango]

cleave felt great for me

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354601641663402246/1354619261993091294/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.03.26_-_17.05.19.03.mp4?ex=67e69bbf&is=67e54a3f&hm=39f1cae22e9c693f00a520fd2a149e87651e32aa9f4f9f1c8da2b753084bb44b&

karsolas with stagger can put rager into heavy stagger state with heavy sweep

which is massive in practice

[buoyant maple]

yea they're super similar

[near gale]

Only 1 heavy instead of 2?

oh wait that's heavy stagger

[buoyant maple]

first heavy sweep can put rager into heavy stagger state

there're 3 stagger states

heavy stagger state is longest

[near gale]

what about death?

[buoyant maple]

much higher threshold but also much longer duration

[near gale]

that's a pretty long stagger state :3

If they're dead they're staggered forever

[buoyant maple]

pretty sure u can't build karsolas heavy sweep to 1 shot damnation ragers in normal circumstances

new ogryn tree is ludicrous in terms of dmg juicing

u can pretty easily get to ~4x base dmg with talents + blessings

[proper osprey]

@plucky flax how do you feel about scries burga with dd?

[clear heath]

oh i've tried a build like that once

it felt kinda clunky using scriers with inferno but i imagine it's better now

[patent mango]

burga doesnt get weakspot benefits so idk

[clear heath]

The DD was picked less because of the staff and more for the knife I was abusing for uncanny

[jovial juniper]

The good news is that dot will keep refreshing DD as it ticks

[clear heath]

it's still giving +15% damage for the fire

[solemn atlas]

What's death dealer? I've been seeing people talk about it

[plucky flax]

It's meme. The buff to PC is too insane for burga to use meme dd gazer with

Just creeping flames spam and win

[buoyant maple]

mortis indulgence type

[solemn atlas]

Ah, thank you

[jovial juniper]

Mortis Trial thingy
It's about weapon juggling or something

Too bad doesn't really synergize with staff

[proper osprey]

I thought so I was just messing around with it and it was funny

[jovial juniper]

[proper osprey]

However I do love trauma scries

It’s evil

[buoyant maple]

@patent mango
this can also kill in 2 light overhead atks

[plucky flax]

This mortis trial thing is too easy?

Like I played as melee ogryn and did 400k burn damage Xd

[merry fern]

Hey, would anyone be able to help me with getting mods sorted out. I'm finally taking the plunge.

[patent mango]

branx moment

[buoyant maple]

u can actually open bulwark from front

[mental grail]

Did they actually fix mettle?

[patent mango]

yea

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/wooo-yeah-baby-gif-18955985

[jovial juniper]

Hey @upper sun

🗣️

[jovial juniper]

Yeah peeps want more as well

[buoyant maple]

branx is still not as good as karsolas at horde & mixed horde

[mental grail]

it legit feels like release havoc w/ these teams man idk

[buoyant maple]

but it's a lot better in unyielding

[analog agate]

Which, in my experience at least, is more and more where people fail runs. Monsters

[plucky flax]

They didn't fix assails quell cancel btw

Only staff Xd

[analog agate]

That one dude who macros here will be overjoyed

[jovial juniper]

But they also made assail throwing faster or something

[rich spindle]

And damage too 😩

[plucky flax]

I think faster swap speed to assail

It was already fast but sure.

Free buff.

[summer prairie]

Faster attack speed

[rich spindle]

Assail with dd was stealing every kill on auric damnation

[summer prairie]

For both attacks, but they broke aimed

[plucky flax]

Aye right click is not accurate anymore

This is sus

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e649e67-2be4-46c0-8293-31b1fa98a69f/terrible-trauma-build @plucky flax was gonna show you this and I also wanted to see what you could do with it

[analog agate]

They have a fix for it. Will be in next hotfix

[plucky flax]

Immediate question is why no pc?

Unless you just memeing

Then sure

[strong gulch]

We will keep on with out danger circle staff.

As far as I know, the meta has not changed for staff builds. No clue for havoc. I have not paid attention. I'm assuming it's still the same there.

[proper osprey]

Wasn’t doing soulblaze but you can take it

[plucky flax]

You always take pc man

[analog agate]

Why unyielding on VB?

[proper osprey]

My fault og

[plucky flax]

I think this build is too 'high concept' for me.

[copper jay]

As long we can 1 vs X crushers

[proper osprey]

[proper osprey]

I thought because I was doing rending I didn’t need it

[copper jay]

What about carapace ?

[rich spindle]

I skip pc if I have no flame shriek

[copper jay]

@plucky flax what is your favorite staff ?

Bean and diabolic already chose their side.

[proper osprey]

True if I’m not running soulblaze I don’t usually take it

[rich spindle]

Interested why you like otherwise

[plucky flax]

I've played rending trauma in havoc (old havoc) and did 100k soulblaze with only pc

Worth it for 1 point investment

[rich spindle]

Hmm…

I’ll try

[proper osprey]

Hmmm

[rich spindle]

I guess for havoc

[plucky flax]

Ye for normal game probably not

[plucky flax]

Me? Surge

[rich spindle]

In normal mode everything just dies before pc stacks up

[strong gulch]

My fave staff for havoc is trauma/ VB. For non-havoc, EK has my heart.

[copper jay]

Surge is ... EK ? Or Voidstrike ?

[plucky flax]

Forbidden staff

[strong gulch]

EK

[plucky flax]

[proper osprey]

I’ve always loved the purg staff

[rich spindle]

Getting rending and dot stacks in havoc was going pretty well for me last night

[copper jay]

Why this staff is forbidden ?

[rich spindle]

Crushers seem to melt from dot around 60% brittle

[strong gulch]

Thanks FS for the name change

[plucky flax]

At least blitz cancel surge still works even if I don't use it that much.

RIP quell cancel

[analog agate]

I mean you don’t have to blitz cancel. You can swap to melee.

[plucky flax]

It's op if you know how to play it well in maelstrom

[marble crater]

You can also just play like a normal person and don't do any of that

[plucky flax]

Blitz is more consistent than melee swap

[analog agate]

🤷‍♂️

[copper jay]

Interesting. What is your build for this ? Rend and Charge fast ? Or you use warp Crit blessing ?

[analog agate]

My blitz is on click and melee is on scroll up. Therefore, I melee cancel haha

[rich spindle]

For trauma, rending and charge fast , I run that if there’s another psyker doing flame trauma or purg staff

If they go pen flame on the purg you get 60% brittleness

[copper jay]

Yeah sure but as a only psyker How do you combine rending and soulblaze ?

[plucky flax]

I just have default keybind.

[analog agate]

Soulblaze talents via perilous combustion

[plucky flax]

So press G is easier than press 1.

[analog agate]

Like how Rat has it. I can’t do numbers or qq stuff

Ah

[plucky flax]

I don't use q for swap.

Q = tag from battlefield days

[marble crater]

How will you soulblaze anything without crit blessing?

[rich spindle]

Usually I just go purg with pen flame, but pc and flame shriek should be good enough dot if you also have bleed ogryn or zealot

[copper jay]

I dont know this is why I'm asking to Chaos and Salmon

[rich spindle]

Who also have flamer etc

[strong gulch]

To be clear, rending shockwave + blazing spirit is an off meta build.

There are SB talents in the tree.

[marble crater]

Heretical questions, those

[analog agate]

When I played bf3-4 I had the g502 so used my third thumb button as spot

[copper jay]

About this

[rich spindle]

Just pc and flame shriek basically. I never tried pc alone

[strong gulch]

This build uses melee a lot more and stacks true aim for crits.

[zinc phoenix]

Idk why they made such a boring mode. Why would you take a game where level design and the ambiance of wandering is the best part and then add a mode about standing still doing nothing

[plucky flax]

I always have pc no matter what.

[strong gulch]

PC buffed too

[blissful solar]

I LOVE MORTIS TRIALS WOOOOO BEST MODE EVER I KNOW EXACTLY WHY THEY MADE IT AND THEY SHOULD MAKE IT MORE

[clear heath]

what changed with pc?

[copper jay]

To appeal to "no sense of direction" crowd

[strong gulch]

SB DoT can proc it now.

[copper jay]

Thanks !

[clear heath]

oh

that's nice

[rich spindle]

Does anyone have a Soulblaze rending vs carapace damage chart

[strong gulch]

Unless that was changed in the hotfix

[rich spindle]

40% feels good and at 60% im pretty sure I see crushers ticking down significantly fast but that’s just me eyeballing the health bar mod

[zinc phoenix]

I have no sense of direction and I still hate this mode 😂

[rich spindle]

Nothing happens the first like 9 waves

Zzzzzz

[zinc phoenix]

Then in the last three nothing continues to happen

But on the plus side I can fart fire which 🤷‍♀️

[upper sun]

🚬 i told u about branx

[jovial juniper]

Maybe you'll play a real class now instead of struggling with bulwarks

[upper sun]

😠

zealot is the only class that has bulwark problems

[jovial juniper]

Not with the Evis15

[upper sun]

how do you open a bulwark with evi15

[jovial juniper]

Rev heavy the shield

[zinc phoenix]

Oh baby 😂

That’s good shit right there

[jovial juniper]

Then dodge cancel out of it

[upper sun]

you mean wait for it to open

[jovial juniper]

No

[upper sun]

oh

[jovial juniper]

Rev heavy the shield

[upper sun]

🙄

[jovial juniper]

No one got time to wait

[copper jay]

Do you look down Psyker ???

[upper sun]

that sounds awful

[jovial juniper]

Rev heavy the shield

[copper jay]

After ignoring me on vet channel ???

[jovial juniper]

Dodge cancel

[clear heath]

nah he'll struggle with bulwarks anyways

[copper jay]

How sinful of you

[jovial juniper]

Rev heavy the squishy bits

Simple as

[upper sun]

Its not just me

theyre annoying and unfun to play against

[jovial juniper]

I look down on any psyker not using Force Sword

[zinc phoenix]

Force BEEEG sword

[jovial juniper]

Imagine not push attacking the bulwark open

[clear heath]

clad will pick force sword and not push attack open them bulwarks anyways

[jovial juniper]

💀

[zinc phoenix]

It’s literally the turtle crackin sword

[clear heath]

instead opting to spray a gun into their shields while they open up for an attack

[copper jay]

Oh go on then. I hate these guys

I'm Force Sword supremacist too

[summer prairie]

What if they are stagger immune and there's 15 of them

[patent mango]

why saint campaign so cold who left the air conditioner on

[copper jay]

VB Trauma

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-12950352696137374051

Then you wait

Ugh

[copper jay]

Parry KD

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-slothmore-zootopia-smiling-gif-12390417

[copper jay]

And dodge behind

[summer prairie]

We got a bulwark wave during the last part of Vigil, the small room in the center

[clear heath]

get the high ground
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1315842472437481582/tall_melee_propaganda.mp4?ex=67e69a8c&is=67e5490c&hm=a756ffbad907990da0c141d3fe68ba471f029668353e69eadfb3ab78bb962a35&

[jovial juniper]

The bulwark spam on mortis made remember that I don't miss 6 bulwarks at once

[marble crater]

Rate my Gunker build

[clear heath]

i think they patched this one this patch

[strong gulch]

normal

[clear heath]

there was a section about weapons hitting through bulwark shields

[strong gulch]

really??

[marble crater]

I can live with normal

[nocturne dust]

One of the builds of all time

[clear heath]

sounds like they patched exactly what you showed, yeah

[strong gulch]

They sure did.

Well feck

not that it was used a lot

[jovial juniper]

Lol get target banned

[nocturne dust]

Staffker ignoring Bulwark stonks rising

[jovial juniper]

Lol

Me with EK trying to kill 2 bulwarks with 9k health

[nocturne dust]

Hey guys, did you know infinite cleave is good?

[clear heath]

sorry but cleave is for noobs

simply hit every enemy one by one

[nocturne dust]

Ah, a tacaxe enthusiast

[jovial juniper]

Achlys axe no brutal

https://tenor.com/view/yankee-no-brim-yankee-hat-baseball-cap-barnacle-boy-gif-16906322

[shrewd comet]

is there a heavy attack combo on a blaze force greatsword that is for mixed horde clear?

or is it just light attack spam basically

[nocturne dust]

FGS does lights for horde and heavies for elites

Mixing not recommended

In the event of a mixed horde, you generally want to use your slice to stagger/kill the weaker ones and heavy the big bois

rather than try to deal with them together

[shrewd comet]

ah. was trying to find a reason to use Charged Strike

[nocturne dust]

Don't.

[shrewd comet]

oh well i guess

[nocturne dust]

Still crap on everything but Illisi and Devil's Claw (and anything else that has anti-horde heavies that don't kill for no reason)

The FGS' mk6 has an anti-horde heavy as part of its best anti-horde combo

but that generally kills the horde

[shrewd comet]

right

[nocturne dust]

So, yeah, you're mainly going to get usage out of charged strike if you're looking to give a little boost to weapons that suck (though whether it's worth it over the other blitzes...)

Like, even on Illisi you actively want to not buff yourself to make use of charged strike. That's the problem.

[clear heath]

I am actually tempted to try charged strike with dclaw

do any of the dclaws marks stand out?

[shrewd comet]

i was interested in mucking around with a melee psyker, even though it probably sucks

just want to try something different i guess

[nocturne dust]

I like 4

Has an anti-horde heavy so it would work with charged strike

[clear heath]

nice

[nocturne dust]

Melee psyker is cool

Charged strike not so much

[clear heath]

charged strike seems like it would be good for bad weapons

[shrewd comet]

how does one even build a melee psyker? i feel like there just isnt enough points -_- and i dont like duelist sword

[clear heath]

which is why i'm interested in dclaw now

[nocturne dust]

Pretty much.

Blazing Spirit situation. Pray for that 0% damage roll.

[plucky flax]

Pick dd and assails then call it a day

[nocturne dust]

Go right side

Assail, Scrier's, Disrupt Destiny

Take By Crack of Bone, stay in Scrier's forever, assail to regen toughness with soulstealer

Meleeker is Assailker is Gunker

[shrewd comet]

which top-most nodes do you take?

[nocturne dust]

It varies. I normally take Soulstealer/Quietude/Mettle/Perfect Timing

Some people take Perilous Combustion and skip Quietude or skip a node further down

[clear heath]

i run this for illisi

[nocturne dust]

imo soulblaze isn't really that useful without a soulblaze build

[nocturne dust]

That's what I run, swapping Scrier's speed node for Assail regen

[clear heath]

might experiment with dropping duration node on the keystone for the 25 stack, since it got a bit of a duration buff recently

[patent mango]

charged strike would been nice if it procced malefic

it dont tho........

maybe bugged?

[clear heath]

kinda weird if it doesn't proc either part of malefic

[patent mango]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/psyker-charged-strike-kill-credit/102614

oh great

unsure if its even worth posting a bug report of "charged strike doesnt proc malefic" then

[clear heath]

yeah this would probably fall under that same report

[patent mango]

i guess i can reply

[jovial juniper]

Mk1 heavies are all sweeps

[pastel turtle]

Which of these toughness talents would you omit for a trauma/soulblaze psyker? I usually take soulstealer, quietude, and mettle, and leave warp expenditure

[jovial juniper]

You just don't have a reliable Strikedown with it

[nocturne dust]

Always leave out warp expenditure

[jovial juniper]

(hence why 4 and 7 are popular)

[nocturne dust]

it is the worst toughness node by far of the top ones

[shrewd comet]

what stats do you run with illisi? and what ranged weapon?

[nocturne dust]

slaughterer/uncanny, flak/maniac iirc?

It depends what I'm looking to use Illisi with, but for a Meleeker build I'd take a gun like Recon or Vraks Infantry Auto (or Braced Agrippina because I love Braced)

[plucky flax]

If you use illisi you are going to be weak against both carapace and unyielding.

[novel swallow]

Would anyone mind suggesting a leveling build for Psyker. I'm level 20 currently. Ive been using EK with Assail and a FGS. I feel like I don't have much single target damage tho. (My weapons are all still bad atm, just started playing for the first time).

[nocturne dust]

Yeh

[clear heath]

i ran autopistol with mine a few times but a normal human being should probably just run vraks iag or a recon

[nocturne dust]

Although uncanny lets you be alright against carapace/unyielding

Vraks lets you dump ammo into unyielding

[clear heath]

simply slap the nearby enemies until you've gathered enough buffs to injure a crusher with the illisi

[plucky flax]

Assails already help so much with horde clear a typical melee build go something that can deal with unyielding and carapace.

Deimos/ds4/fgs are the top choices.

[nocturne dust]

Psyker has trouble with levelling. Your best bet is Assail.

FGS and EK should both have high single target damage tho, you may want to get better weapons if you feel they're lacking.

[clear heath]

can't wait to get home and try out the new autopistol

maybe i'll finally be able to deal damage to a scab gunner

[novel swallow]

Thanks everyone, sounds like I might need to save up for some better weapons so I can up the damage. For the fgs, which version should I use?

[nocturne dust]

they're both very good

They both can handle whatever is thrown at them. mk8 has easier access to horde clear, mk6 has easier access to elite clear. I prefer mk6, I just spam lights for horde anyway and you don't need anything more than that

[strong gulch]

Pick the FGS that you can use better or that feels more natural.

[long wharf]

so Mettle is back on the menu

[nocturne dust]

yeh, their main difference is their feel more than anything else

[analog agate]

Vibes, bro

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-brow-gif-8007662

[pastel turtle]

Blessings and perks for surge staff?

[strong gulch]

FGS 8 is a little fast in getting its attacks out; well the lights or a little faster. Heavy big upper thrust is after the PA (push attack).

FGS 6 has the that heavy upper trust as the H2 and after the special. It can be more mechanically interesting with combos if you want, but is unga bunga friendly too.

Those are the stand outs for me.

[long wharf]

nexus+flurry, flak+unyielding

[pastel turtle]

Surge and Warp Nexus?

[strong gulch]

Nexus and flurry for RMB EK

surge + nexus is LMB build

which was nerfed btw (LMB I mean)

[long wharf]

I don't even consider people only using lmb with staves

[jovial juniper]

Use Nexus solely for the 5 crit

[strong gulch]

I liked it when it was a funny meme before we got tanlents for it; then it got unfunny after talent update.

[jovial juniper]

Yeah lemme just kill everything

For free

[copper jay]

What means lmb ?

[clear heath]

left mouse button

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[vital oyster]

See:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/aimed-assail-throw-is-no-longer-accurate/106229/5
and
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/assail-heavy-attack-targeting-functionality-is-gone-visual-and-sound-bug/106425

[long wharf]

yeah, assail isn't aiming the way it should all the time

[sad assail noises]

[clear heath]

well that's unfortunate

[long wharf]

yep, feelsbad.jpg

[marble crater]

It's my fault, I started playing gunker. I'm not sorry.

[long wharf]

but that's okay, I'm thoroughly enjoying my ogryn, Slapaholic, for the time being

[strong gulch]

mettle back so yay

[nocturne dust]

I've been punch-only on Mortis

[long wharf]

I've gone a whole run only slapping in melee range

[marble crater]

Is heresy trials still bugged with more enemies?

[copper jay]

What is the next Meta ?

[marble crater]

Everything

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-syndrome-ang-when-everyones-super-no-one-will-be-super-heroes-gif-5389961

[long wharf]

you uh dropped a few frames there

[nocturne dust]

look I couldn't find a better gif, alright?

[long wharf]

couldn't afford a whole 15fps, huh?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/syndrome-incredibles-and-when-everyone-is-super-no-one-will-be-gif-3791257052170976251

like this one doesn't have the text

[long wharf]

nope

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/and-when-everyones-super-no-one-will-be-syndrome-incredibles-gif-16929680360868417134

neither does this

https://tenor.com/view/syndrome-incredibles-when-everyones-super-gif-10466529

This is the wrong quote and worse

[long wharf]

and yet you continue to post them

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/can-you-prove-it-that-is-good-syndrome-that-is-good-can-you-prove-it-gif-3968039632851007679

[long wharf]

oh god, wrong dialog entirely, that's painful to see

[nocturne dust]

you see wat I have to deal with

[long wharf]

took me all of 15 seconds to find

[willow hazel]

I want to like 25 stack DD, but I can't get enough stacks because assail is drunk

[nocturne dust]

dots

[long wharf]

dots are better then 5fps or wrong quote

[nocturne dust]

0/10

[long wharf]

I haven't played with DD without the extended stack lifetime yet

I'm not sure 5 seconds is enough to be able to maintain the 25 stacks

[nocturne dust]

It's not

[bold edge]

it seems my psyker has literally made a friend

[strong gulch]

dreamy

[marble crater]

[lone wing]

is mettle already fixed or still fucky?

[strong gulch]

People say it's fixed.

Can't no longer prestack

again

[lone wing]

what about penetration of the soul

does that ACTUALLY work?

[strong gulch]

ye

[lone wing]

neat

[nocturne dust]

Still a bad node

but at least it finally works

[lone wing]

time for a good old fashioned rmb surge build

obscurus melee

[nocturne dust]

I still dislike Obscurus

[lone wing]

i need to learn it so dorn will get off my ass

[nocturne dust]

It's not that good. I think some are just impressed by the 'uwoh, many-smack head in short time' in the same way there are some tacaxe lovers

[marble crater]

Can confirm that mettle is fixed, I shot for a minute straight without reloading in trials and didn't crash

[pale matrix]

is the vraks better than the recon lasgun for gun psyker?

[brazen rampart]

"Bad node" its free 10% rending for playing normally lol.

[brazen rampart]

Yes and no.

[pale matrix]

what're the trade offs?

[brazen rampart]

Depends on

1. how often you use your gun
2. what you aim your gun at
3. can you actually control vraks recoil

Vraks has the highest dps of any ranged weapon in the game, but recons have significantly better ammo economy because they can utilize infernus.

I, personally, use the hell out of my gun, so I use recon to make up for my ammo sponge-ing habits.

[pale matrix]

thanks, this is a great rundown. Been using the vraks a lot but I've seen others use recon and I didn't know why.

[brazen rampart]

However, I limit myself to engaging shooters with it, only.

[lost minnow]

Psykers, you can only have one blitz and one primary till the end of time for darktide. What you picking?

[brazen rampart]

Standard gunker with mk8 greatsword and blue recon.

[young summit]

Hell yeah

That's the setup

[brazen rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[marble crater]

And now I crashed for seemingly no reason

[nocturne dust]

your alternative is ER

Vet gets 10% rending with 0 conditions

[brazen rampart]

And vet needs a huge skill tree rework, next.

[nocturne dust]

If you never dip below 75% peril you are hugely anal about peril management

[brazen rampart]

Or...

[nocturne dust]

And, in the end, it's only 10% rending

[brazen rampart]

I am using mainly melee and keeping peril up with my staff/blitz.

[brazen rampart]

To everything.

Your entire kit.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, and?

And?

[brazen rampart]

Including dots.

[nocturne dust]

And?

[brazen rampart]

If you think 10% rending is anything to sneeze at then you need to be atomized.

[strong gulch]

DD is melee's friend.

[lost minnow]

isnt the rending on high peril bugged so it doesnt even work?

[nocturne dust]

It's literally nothing, especially because you cannot stack it with anything.

unless uncanny, but you don't need it with uncanny

[brazen rampart]

Oh trust me I know, I'm just saying you can do melee with it while edging peril.

[nocturne dust]

they just fixed it

[strong gulch]

Works now

[nocturne dust]

but as I was saying, still a very meh node

[lost minnow]

they JUST FIXED IT?

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/campbells-soup-tomato-soup-campbells-can-of-soup-gif-21665356

[nocturne dust]

si, finally, yes

[strong gulch]

can

[lost minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-the-one-piece-is-real-one-piece-can-we-get-much-higher-gif-12768691753041466909

oh gifs dont work here either

[nocturne dust]

they do

[brazen rampart]

They do.

[lost minnow]

[queen fog]

they do

[brazen rampart]

You just don't have the role.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[queen fog]

u just gotta type more

[lost minnow]

o

damn

[brazen rampart]

Keep talking and the bot will give it to you.

[strong gulch]

Grey name moment.

[lost minnow]

what if i like the gray name and become a rock

then an ogryn can hurl me at a nearby beast of nurgle

[strong gulch]

pet rock and ogryn rock are good rocks

[nocturne dust]

Granted, PoTs isn't Unlucky for Some

but that's a bar that's not even off the ground

[lost minnow]

hear me out, double the damage every psyker blitz does /s

[brazen rampart]

Alternatively make blitzes naturally increase damage the higher your peril is.

[lost minnow]

you mean make that one node you take one very psyker build, base kit

[brazen rampart]

No, warp rider goes for everything.

I'm saying bake another layer of warp rider into blitzes, specifically.

[nocturne dust]

Warp Rider goes on everything, yeah

[lost minnow]

i know it buffs everything im just saying

[brazen rampart]

(I am coping because bb doesn't oneshot certain elites in havocs)

[lost minnow]

you want warp rider but for blitzes, and make it base kit

[strong gulch]

BB doesn't one shot certain elites in non-havoc

[lost minnow]

who are you saying that to

[strong gulch]

as an add-on to frog

[nocturne dust]

BB moment

[strong gulch]

yip

[lost minnow]

i just cope by using powered psionics

[strong gulch]

Even with EP

I am an EP BB enjoyer, but lol

[brazen rampart]

I want warp rider, as it is in the tree, to stay.

I also want another function to blitzes that linearly increases their damage based on your current peril %, as a function of each blitz.

[nocturne dust]

I am a Mortis Trials EP BB Enjoyer

[strong gulch]

I want to do the BB pop 1 pops 10 with KR and EP.

Have you don't that yet?

[nocturne dust]

I only get the burn spreading 😔

I've wanted that as well

[strong gulch]

😭

Gamble trials

[nocturne dust]

Most roguelikes normally have rerolls

[wispy bay]

Lucky bullet rumbler got 10 shots in a row in Mortis, lol.

Deleting the monstrosity out of real space.

[strong gulch]

[nocturne dust]

Rock-style

[lost minnow]

i said that, i know i was just clarifying

[brazen rampart]

THUMP
THUMP
THUMP
THUMP
THUMP
THUMP
THUMP
THUMP
Honestly lucky bullet is so fucking fun with rumbler now.

[wispy bay]

Well, there are tons of perk that increase crit and crit ignores ammo.

In normal game, I expect around 3 rounds at best.

Anyhow, it was an Automatic grenade launcher for a moment.

[ornate hamlet]

How do I level Psyker? Assail is utter garbage at low-level. Can't really clear hordes and just to take out 6-8 trash mobs I have to expend all my shards. Not sure how to actually play Psker, if I'm honest. The others seem a little bit more straightforward.

[nocturne dust]

Assail is literally your best bet for levelling

[brazen rampart]

Ok, I'm not sure where you're getting assail being "garbage" from.

That sounds a lot like an operator error.

[ornate hamlet]

But like... it can't do anything. It barely takes out trash mobs and doesn't seem to do much against specials either.

[long wharf]

absolutely a skill issue

[nocturne dust]

Not sure how you're expending all your shards to kill trash

[brazen rampart]

How exactly are you using your darts?

[long wharf]

are you just dumping all your shards into whatever is in your face?

[ornate hamlet]

There were 6-8 trash in a hallway, I just left click once and it kills like... one of them. So I left click more and it actually kills them finally 😂

[placid rune]

it does seem to have been broken in the recent update a little

to me at least

[long wharf]

you want to be aiming your cursor slightly above enemy heads

[brazen rampart]

Serious question, where is the center of your screen when throwing darts?

[ornate hamlet]

It seems much better against high value targest rather than trash, tbh.

[wispy bay]

I find assail to be the same.

[ornate hamlet]

But why even use it in that case when Brain Burst exists?

[nocturne dust]

It cleaves well using warp splitting

[long wharf]

the ideal shard path is arcing downwards onto enemy heads for weakspot hits

[prime elk]

average psyker player

[wispy bay]

Nah, Assail are better vs trash mob.