psyker-class

[cloud night]

Idk, mettle aint making me crash

[patent mango]

they gotta triple enemies in mortis trials guh

[cloud night]

Ive definitely stacked a fuckton of it

[clear heath]

doesn't crash in psykanium

[cloud night]

Not in mortis trials?

[clear heath]

idk i haven't tried mortis

[deft stump]

I saw many Psykers crashing.

[cloud night]

It didnt crash for me, was running a melee crit build and i was fine

[jovial juniper]

~~technically speaking, it does ~~

💀

[deft stump]

You need 30 consecutive stacks.

[clear heath]

maybe you're not critting fast enough

[jovial juniper]

Which begs the question

Does that boon affects left click

?

[cloud night]

Maybe, idk

Ill try high intens or sumn later and tell ye

The infinite assail perk in mortis is goofy as fuck though lmfao

[rain barn]

Hmm 4000 diamonite things from doing trials ... nice

[marble crater]

Mortis with multiple ogryn means you have like no fps

[deft stump]

I got 3 in one. Good thing 2 went for rocks meme.

And the last tried for inf frag booms.

[marble crater]

Speaking of memes... Tomorrow I will do BB with resonance and double walls, if we get 4 or more walls in Mortis and they all stack the resonance buffs for BB

Machine gun horde clear BB

[strong gulch]

box gaming

I might try mortis out tomorrow.

[marble crater]

One of the ogryn called it big box of fps drop

[analog agate]

I lose frames on mortis without big box haha.

[strong gulch]

I lose all frames with crashes

[marble crater]

Nice

[strong gulch]

🫡

[clear heath]

almost home from work
Did they fix mettle yet?

[long wharf]

oof, just failed a malice horde mode on wave 6

[deft stump]

3 bleed shouts+Shredders?

[marble crater]

No?

[long wharf]

no

[marble crater]

This guy, smh

[clear heath]

bad game

[patent mango]

lowered 30 mettle procs to 20

[long wharf]

poxbursters killed everyone or launched people off the map

[marble crater]

Barrels launched me off the map twice on the Carnival Mortis map

[strong gulch]

Did mettle get fecked?

[long wharf]

yep, it's crashing servers

[marble crater]

If you crit too often you crash

[strong gulch]

😭

[buoyant maple]

Lore accurate psyker death scene

Crit 31 times with mettle to become alpha plus psyker (u immediately peril)

[long wharf]

FartShack did say the hotfix will drop this week

[strong gulch]

well then

[buoyant maple]

This week means Thursday or Friday

[long wharf]

or Saturday

[clear heath]

this week means 2 months

[clear heath]

it's over

[strong gulch]

[long wharf]

either way, psyker is back in the stable until then

[clear heath]

that means it's ogryn week

[long wharf]

🕐

Ogryn O'clock

[patent mango]

fatshark trolling everyone to play ogryn

[deft stump]

Naw, 'nade vet still works.

[marble crater]

And then those ogryn delete everyone's frames

[patent mango]

vet mains are going extinct

[clear heath]

it's okay, my pc can handle it

[buoyant maple]

FS doesn’t work on weekends

[clear heath]

i will crash everyone else's pc

darktide pvp

[long wharf]

also true

the real friendly fire

[buoyant maple]

It’s a psyker/ogryn world

[patent mango]

lol

how convenient i main both

[clear heath]

i was really looking forward to trying the new autopis on psyker

fatshark won't let me

[deft stump]

WDYM?

[marble crater]

Smite in Mortis is pretty meh by the way, don't bother

[patent mango]

no vet wep

[strong gulch]

No crits tho

[marble crater]

Assail on the other hand

[deft stump]

I have 'nades on 'nades. WDYM?

[patent mango]

where powerfist...

[buoyant maple]

It’d be rly funny if they make power axe veteran exclusive

But I doubt it

[patent mango]

would b

[deft stump]

Power claw.

[patent mango]

ogryn fist wep where

the rework is a start tho

[onyx sentinel]

I’d really like to try out illisi or dclaw but I’m so used to trivializing crushers and ragers with finesse melees

what’s a good secondary for them?

[patent mango]

dclaw trivializes ragers anyways

[marble crater]

EK and Voidstrike

[patent mango]

but uhhh probably a staff like electro for crushers?

[marble crater]

Crushers can't kill you if they are perma stunned

[onyx sentinel]

yah true I forgot surge staff exists

[marble crater]

Then you are a fake psyker

[patent mango]

dclaw charged strike 🔥

[onyx sentinel]

I used to spam surge staff before left click build became a thing, then someone at havoc 20 complained I used “the wrong build” because I still right click with it lmfao

[deft stump]

They dumb. They going to suffer now.

[open creek]

So often this problem, every time need to repair the game. -.-

[marble crater]

Tja

[deft stump]

AMD GPU. Try turning off the anti-lag thing.

[clear heath]

I actually really like Illisi on gunpsyker but that does mean you'll struggle more on crushers when you don't have buffs stacked up

[marble crater]

Let your team handle the crushers, that's what they are there for

[clear heath]

I had to clutch against a crusher pack with an illisi autopistol build the other day and i really had to sweat to get my buffs up

[deft stump]

Sword stroking?

[marble crater]

That kind of sounds like it was your fault though

[open creek]

Thank you, I try that. 🙂

[clear heath]

Can you believe i ran this dogshit gun before the buff?
#darktide-pics-vids message

[clear heath]

More like stacking uncanny

like the illisi is pretty dogshit at crushers unbuffed but this is pretty usable once it gets going

Just gotta get uncanny, slaughterer, malefic momentum, DD, scriers, and perfect timing stacked...

[wind spruce]

Don't forget warp rider SMDH head

[weary idol]

assail being able to apply normal burn in the mortis trials is kinda cursed

[marble crater]

Also fun though and you can have an infinite amount

[weary idol]

oh I just noticed double shield got buffed

has a chance to shock any enemy passing through it

[nocturne dust]

I haven't played yet

What's this about 31 stacks of mettle?

[buoyant maple]

U get to experience a lore accurate psyker death scene

[dusk void]

Does everyone's Havoc Levels get reset to 30?

[wind spruce]

They had to do something to keep gunker from reaching escape velocity

[tepid python]

i have this issue and use this mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/371?tab=images
its not a fix but it solves the acid trip hindering me

[jovial juniper]

CRIT too much = Hard Crash

[long wharf]

demons come out of your monitor

[weary idol]

If you crit 30 times without losing your Mettle stacks your game crashes

This is extremely unlikely to happen, but it can

Has to be seperate crits too because Mettle only gains stacks once per attack

Will probably kill you for using recon las or vraks iag though

[fringe tangle]

How are the assail buffs? Notable? I have been playing Ogryn all day.

[nocturne dust]

is that with the refreshing?

[drifting steeple]

@iron moth

[nocturne dust]

wait

they buffed Assail and not BB?

[tepid python]

real

lemme one tap muties

[prime elk]

it's the same team responsible for DS balance

[nocturne dust]

They must've seen KF usage stats and gone "Oh, BB is really good then"

[marble crater]

Same with the entire right side

[nocturne dust]

Charged Strike buff tho

[jovial juniper]

Hold on lemme find the tex

t

[nocturne dust]

I was looking through the patch notes, yeah...

What is this, malice?

[long wharf]

but using it can crash your game via Mettle

[nocturne dust]

actually that doesn't work

Assail is stronger at lower difficulties due to not scaling

[wind spruce]

I assumed they meant in selection choice

[marble crater]

Damn you psy aura

[patent mango]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

I'm in the psykhanium, and it's good to see Charged Strike is still worthless

[patent mango]

charged strike is very close to being good

just needs to proc malefic lmaooooo

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, it would be good if it did anything useful, I agree

[dusk void]

Fatshark kicked me out after completing my 12th wave 😥😥

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/qoaQxZbRYHk.gif

[nocturne dust]

oh hey

charged strike works even if you hit Bulwark shields

[jovial juniper]

Good enough
Welcome back maelstrom bug

[nocturne dust]

[wind spruce]

Busted

[deft stump]

Oh?

[wind spruce]

I still can't believe they buffed scriers again 💀

[long wharf]

yuuuuup

[indigo basalt]

having trouble understanding how to get better weapons. Is it just through drops when you level, or do I need to upgrade to the weapon I want? I'm level 24 right now.

[deft stump]

Nobody uses it, so it must be bad.

Clearly.

[long wharf]

someone on the dev team has a read hardon for gun psykers

[nocturne dust]

To be fair, Shriek is meta, and Havoc boosted bubble so hard

[wind spruce]

Real

[wind spruce]

Make scriers apply soulblaze in an AoE that'll bring its usage up

[nocturne dust]

Bulwark Shields can't resist the charge

[deft stump]

To be fair, the gunner/shooter bs means bubble was kinda needed unless you want a spicy time.

[jovial juniper]

buffs CRIT psyker to hell and back
Bugs CRIT psyker so it hard crashes the game

Peak Fatshark right there

[marble crater]

You level up your weapon mastery and then you can increase the stats more at Hadron, level up either through exp from missions or by sacrificing other weapons into them (same weapon gives more exp)

[raven mountain]

Mod issue? I know some of the mods were doing that. Scoreboard maybe?

[indigo basalt]

thank you.

[deft stump]

Though, DD is the bad part, lul. It loves telling me to go shoot snipers.

[nocturne dust]

Oh no

[wind spruce]

DD can't target snipers

[nocturne dust]

all my mods have updates

😰

[raven mountain]

Give me soulblaze on hit node

[dusk void]

I'm checking through my countless mods that I've downloaded to see if they need updatess

[deft stump]

I mean random hyper accurate shooters across the map.

[indigo basalt]

as I say that their is a better duelling sword for purchase. ideally you want thrust and relentless right?

[deft stump]

Literally just snipers to me.

[raven mountain]

2025-03-25: Nightmares & Visions

Known issues:

• Contracts Overlay
• Crosshair HUD
• Custom Flames
• DarkCache
• Inventory Inspect
• Ovenproof_scoreboard_plugin
• Power DI
• Recolor Boss Healthbars
• Scoreboard (#1079067869326876822 message⁠)
• TrueSoloQoL
• VolleyFireTimer
• WillOfTheEmperor

Updated:

• Numeric UI
• MissionBrief
• SoloPlay
• Commodores Vestures Improved
• Crosshair Remap
• DifficultyColor
• Markers Improved AOI
• PsykaniumDefaultDifficulty
• Ration Pack
• RememberServerLocation
• Weapon customization

Start there

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flying-flying-cat-jumpscare-jump-gif-20372835

[deft stump]

Uncanny whatever.

[marble crater]

Uncanny Strike and second blessing can be riposte or thrust or agile or precog

[indigo basalt]

thanks everyone

[wind spruce]

Absolutely not. You want uncanny and riposte/shred/thrust. Relentless is bad

[wind spruce]

Not precog you little shit

[raven mountain]

Agile is my pick, but I often take the dueling sword so I can panic dodge away.

[indigo basalt]

and blaze force ive heard is good also

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark understands the attractiveness of their characters

[jovial juniper]

[marble crater]

Yes precog

[nocturne dust]

perish

[jovial juniper]

Buffing the punches

Was genial

[marble crater]

Well I would never use precog of course, I use thrust

[raven mountain]

Buff knife punches.

[jovial juniper]

Also holy that cleaver is faster

Cleavers are finally good

[nocturne dust]

cleaver is knife

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meatballs-enough-to-make-a-grown-man-cry-police-officer-make-a-man-cry-gif-15227532

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-not-a-knife-that's-a-knife-crocodile-dundee-gif-17875218452824390581

[fiery stratus]

used the mk4 cleaver for a handful of games, lotta fun. The mobility with the charge and everything feels great

[dusk void]

I got my Mortis Trial reward 😊😊

[nocturne dust]

I guess they had the A team working on Ogryn and the F team working on Psyker

[analog agate]

F team worked on vet

[tepid python]

i welcome assail damage boost because i enjoy assail

[analog agate]

Apparently all the buffs they did are broken lol

[nocturne dust]

wat'd they do to vet?

[fiery stratus]

what did the z team work on

[marble crater]

[fiery stratus]

itemization

[deft stump]

Beeg knoife.

[nocturne dust]

Nurgle, as always

[analog agate]

Zealot, naturally. They are up “next”

[nocturne dust]

next for wat

[analog agate]

Update

[marble crater]

Remove duelist

[nocturne dust]

[buoyant maple]

They missed the mark on all 7/7 veteran changes

[deft stump]

You mean janitor.

[nocturne dust]

'duelist was very weak and underutilized, so we decided to buff it'

[fiery stratus]

tbh i think adding a bunch of talents around the keystones is a good idea overall

[deft stump]

Well, they did make them slightly more usable.

At least I see Catch a Breath doing something now...

[buoyant maple]

Yea if u dodge absolutely everything

Deactivation on blocking hit is so stupid

[deft stump]

True, but it works more than before at least.

[nocturne dust]

You gotta be kidding

Won't tell me the hour I downloaded the old version but I bet it was close

[dull scroll]

holy shit managed to complete a 30

[nocturne dust]

I don't understand, I don't see any major issues with the changes at first glance

[onyx sentinel]

So do we just not use mettle right now

[nocturne dust]

Crit less

[wind spruce]

Lmao

[nocturne dust]

Dump crit

[wind spruce]

Skill issue

[buoyant maple]

[buoyant maple]

CaB deactivates on block
KZ deactivates on block
covering fire still doesn't apply to self
serrated blade still abysmal
skirmisher still has no staying power in combat
deadshot still takes far too much investment
power sword fix didn't even entirely work

[dull scroll]

also just found out scoreboard crashes game now

[nocturne dust]

[deft stump]

If you play Mortis.

[nocturne dust]

Is the deactivating on block new or was it always like that?

[buoyant maple]

Deactivation on hit

[deft stump]

It used to be distance based.

[buoyant maple]

Except they copied payback time’s code

[dull scroll]

if you press f5

[buoyant maple]

So blocking hit also deactivates it

[nocturne dust]

ah

[buoyant maple]

[dull scroll]

wonder if this is the reason why I am crashing after every game end

time to find out

[deft stump]

So it just crashes, lul. But I know it will cause crash at end of Mortis. Too many ppl complained already.

[marble crater]

Deserved for using cheats

[wind spruce]

Does penetration of the soul actually work now

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[deft stump]

It does, but bleah.

[nocturne dust]

[deft stump]

Only warp related stuff.

At least, stroked Illisi.

I did more damage with it than without it, all tested at 91% peril and H1.

Stroked H1.

[nocturne dust]

I feel like people have said that before and it turned out to be false

[deft stump]

Could just be psykhanium vs live games.

You know FS code.

But at least in Psykhanium, I do more on avg with it with said stroked H1.

[nocturne dust]

this is why we remove warp rider for testing

so it should be clear

[deft stump]

91% is for POTS.

90% above peril.

[nocturne dust]

sure, what you do is test the damage number at 0% and above POTS' cutoff with no other relevant talents/blessings interfering

I'll do it myself at some point after I finish updating my mods

[deft stump]

Yeah, probs better.

Probably should use FGS or Deimos as well. Illisi swing is harder to bonk crusher hed accurately.

[wind spruce]

You can just use a staff left click on a crusher

[wind spruce]

Hurry up grandpa

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-my-prime-funny-ironic-age-old-gif-11480659

[cloud night]

The twitch fit is so fucking ugly

[wind spruce]

That's the sad part

[deft stump]

You older than old ppl?

[deft stump]

Free stuff has to be ugly to sell the shinies.

[cloud night]

Yea, yea
Still

[fringe tangle]

Yeah but half the premium stuff is ugly as well

[deft stump]

Slop to make the actually nice stuff more fomo if you miss them.

[nocturne dust]

EK Staff LMB (no warp rider):
49 on crusher head (non-crit) at 0% peril
66 on crusher head (non-crit) at 75%+ peril

PoTs and pans

[deft stump]

I did say it works.

Just more iffy general test.

[nocturne dust]

and you were right.

This Discord has given me... well, not given, but exacerbated my trust issues.

[deft stump]

Ah.

[strong gulch]

What happned now??

[wind spruce]

I'm glad to have contributed to your trauma

[deft stump]

I actually bothered to try it before I said anything lul.

[nocturne dust]

Nothing new, just people repeatedly telling me blatant lies

[wind spruce]

"You're good at Darktide"

[nocturne dust]

Someone said PoTs worked in the past and they were just plain wrong but I had to test it to be sure 😭

[deft stump]

Two mains chat keep saying that. I don't believe the ppl in those two mains.

[cloud night]

Hey
Im your best friend

No im not

I blatantly lied to you

[wind spruce]

Savage

[cloud night]

Add that to the list

[marble crater]

What

[deft stump]

Except you, you just call me a gremlin.

[marble crater]

Because you are one

[nocturne dust]

Can't believe only gunker got buffs 😔

[marble crater]

The buffs were so good and unnecessary, nobody even talks about the psy aura nerf

[wind spruce]

Just blanket acceptance that its an entirely justified nerf

[nocturne dust]

I mean, psykinetics is still psykinetics

[deft stump]

I mean, that is truth, but you know who I mean.

[wind spruce]

Unbelievable they buffed the keystone, combat ability and blitz lmfao

[cloud night]

I say we offer all gremlins as a sacrifice to Khorne

[nocturne dust]

Dang, I can't default to the meat grinder anymore now that they shoved Mortis Trials in

[deft stump]

You get inf+1 kraks to the face.

[marble crater]

Yes, it also didn't do too much I imagine, I haven't played an auric today, just Mortis shenanigans, so I can't compare

[marble crater]

He would send Karien back

[deft stump]

Bleed shout spree!

[deft stump]

I mean, Death rejected me like 5 times now?

[cloud night]

Yea, you're right

[deft stump]

3 times were of my own doing.

Well, more.

[wind spruce]

It's not a huge difference but gunker has been good for ages and they've made incremental buffs like 3 or 4 updates in a row

[deft stump]

I nearly drowned like 3 times in my life.

[wind spruce]

If you look at scriers now compared to scriers a year ago it has like six decent improvements

[deft stump]

But other two were horrific falls when like 4-5 year old.

[wind spruce]

And it was already good

[deft stump]

I still have scars from the fall.

[marble crater]

Surely we will see gunker in h40 now, right? Right?

[marble crater]

Learn to swim, smh

[wind spruce]

If ammo wasn't an issue, sure

[ripe obsidian]

Havoc 30 now feels harder than 40 before. But it also is more dynamic and fun, at least in regards to spawns and weakened bosses

[deft stump]

Nu. Trauma.

[wind spruce]

You should stop doing that

[marble crater]

Move to a landlocked country

[ripe obsidian]

The changes to shooters makes the game much more enjoyable. Now when I die it's less likely to be from three basic shooters walking around a corner

[deft stump]

People knocked me into deep pools.

[wind spruce]

Did they make them less busted

[marble crater]

We call those people "assholes"

[granite gorge]

Uh oh, I have the rainbow shield graphic glitch again nooooooooooo

[marble crater]

Yeah they nerfed (buffed?) fading light

[wind spruce]

Removed the increased shooting time from ranged enemies.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[wind spruce]

Oh fuck yeah

[cloud night]

Time for you to detox off that LSD bucko

[granite gorge]

it didnt happen all night ,and just started D:

happens in grinder too

[deft stump]

Thus. Khorne will throw me out and you get to deal with a gremlin with a puppo and a stolen sword or summthing.

[cloud night]

We'll just give her to slaanesh instead or tzeentch

Im not that cruel.so no.nurgle

[deft stump]

Did your anti-lag turn itself on?

[deft stump]

WDYM Slaanesh? Are you trying to fluff up?

[granite gorge]

wym?

[cloud night]

Lmao

[deft stump]

AMD Anti-lag is a cause of the rainbow bubble.

[wind spruce]

All the havoc changes look really good

[granite gorge]

ooh no its off

[wind spruce]

Roamers
Removed density type “none” from Havoc. This change was made to make the mission feel more oppressive with less chances for breaks.

This was arousing to read ngl

"New Horde Compositions
New coordinated horde strike type: “Blockade sandwich”."

Sandwich me fatshark daddy

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-disbelief-what-huh-gif-15892515

[nocturne dust]

I crashed 😔

[wind spruce]

Thanks for letting us know

[nocturne dust]

[deft stump]

You don't know yet?

[cloud night]

I tried high intens with mettle
Didnt crash
Same with how I didnt in mortis

[deft stump]

Join the modless.

[cloud night]

Didnt know what?

[deft stump]

Chaos sister. Heh. Also, yuri galore.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[cloud night]

Yuri's great
Also dont say the chaos part too loud, they get sus

At least they are of me

Maim kill.burn

Magnus did nothing wrong

[deft stump]

They already stare in that way. I just am not that dumb. But yes, ||Chaos|| Sister x Farseer gud.

[nocturne dust]

I already hate the box lag

[cloud night]

I agree

[ripe obsidian]

It is fun. It is also hard.

I lost one earlier because 2 daemonhosts and 2 lieutenants popped up within 60 seconds of one another, not counting the crusher/bulwark spawns

[wind spruce]

How do the DHs work? Do they auto-aggro?

[ripe obsidian]

If you don't stop their spawn, yeah

In this case the summoners spawned right next to a normal DH

So, uh, we were fighting at least one either way

[wind spruce]

So good

[ripe obsidian]

The match was fine until then

But we got overwhelmed

Really important to keep pushing forward, since spawns are way more aggressive

Too easy to get bogged down.

The thing that has killed me the most is the CC-immune captains that don't fall over when their shield breaks. I drop block on muscle memory and get wrecked

[dull scroll]

had 1 guy dc and never came back, trio almost got the 31 but then 20 bulwarks 😭

[ripe obsidian]

I think VB is better than purg for these new modifiers. Quell-cancel purg could stagger the world, but it feels somewhat eh now

[dull scroll]

VB is way better than purge under these conditions now

[cloud night]

I miss QC purge ngl

[ripe obsidian]

It was fun

[cloud night]

Had a second purge with RnG on just to meme with the QC

Kinda fuckin useless now

[ripe obsidian]

Not sure if I prefer soulblaze or rending. The 6-capped soulblaze doesn't feel as impactful as giving your team a lot of extra damage

[dull scroll]

VB you can just circle your own foot and be safe in the middle of a horde

[dull scroll]

oh it's rending and faster charge

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, that's what I've been using

[nocturne dust]

Oh hey

I can finally have a blazeburn build

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[long wharf]

well, shit, I'll give SG this

using it to drop peril is super handy

[cloud sequoia]

https://youtu.be/z_OKJUZKHe8?t=48

wtf chain brain burst

[long wharf]

it's awesome

you BB one enemy, and up to 10 enemies around it get BB also

[hardy coral]

found out no ammo consumed on crit makes me crashed.

[long wharf]

well, it helps you get up to 31 Mettle stacks

so yeah

[hardy coral]

but pew pew with Vraks Mk V

[analog agate]

Whelp. Ogryn is awesome and nullifies aurics

[patent mango]

nerf ogryn....

wonder if ogryn will actually get nerfs

[warm spindle]

yall

[wind spruce]

VB supremacy returns, the natural order has been reinstated

[warm spindle]

does enfeeble boost the damage from the shock maul

[ripe obsidian]

Purg isn't very fun for me without quell-cancel. Loses basically all interactivity

[wind spruce]

implying it was ever fun

[ripe obsidian]

QC LMB at least gave me a decision point instead of RMBing everything

I wish VS were good in Havoc. It's my favorite

[wind spruce]

VS most fun by far

https://outplayed.tv/media/LwLe3O

[strong gulch]

That's how my cousin taught me to swim. 😭

Just yeet me into the deep end.

[wind spruce]

Well you're alive so it worked, right?

[strong gulch]

Ye.

Turns out, I'm very good at floating.

[clear heath]

wow mortis needs some more difficulty

so many op buffs, nothing to use them on

[hardy coral]

Assail seems kinda scuffed right now in Trials, when aiming it goes for the closest target or just misses entirely.

[rain barn]

Love when a team mate picks up the healing grenade

[dull scroll]

they need to make it infinite

[rain barn]

Using trials to farm penance

[analog agate]

Ya I usually am a rusher for penances. Mortis is too boring

[wind spruce]

Goddamn, they really flopped it that bad?

[rain barn]

I just like being able to pop my power 3 times at once it's amazing

[analog agate]

10-12 are good. So it is a “waste” of 20 minutes

[wind spruce]

Ah, lame. Such a predictable issue lol

[sturdy reef]

LFG H40 mortis

[raven mountain]

They even said they wanted us to feel powerful in those last 3 rounds.

You'd think they'd follow through on that intention.

[sturdy reef]

idk about you but

grenade ogryn fucking eats

in mortis, just a ton fps drops lmao

[nocturne dust]

It indeed eats my FPS 😭

[raven mountain]

I'm actually enjoying rumbler gunlugger

[nocturne dust]

Wdym? Mortis high difficulty. Impossible to not crash or lag to death. Very hard.

[raven mountain]

knife makes him fast and dodgey

rumbler explodes thick packs

[analog agate]

I found another mouse. Unfortunately, the mouse I had is too expensive for me to buy again. Using razer dav 3 atm but ergo isn’t for me. Got another razer mouse otw. Can’t believe it broke right when we started

Also, I can’t believe how good ogryn is now. Truly, aurics are a joke. I never have to look at my health. I never have to worry about anything. It all dies so fast

[sturdy reef]

yeah I ran middle tree odryn

shit was nuts

tanked twins and captain at the same time

[analog agate]

I ran 3 aurics each with left, middle, right. Cleaned up on every one

[raven mountain]

Haven't done middle yet, but even memey shit like bleed/fire knife/rumbler gunlugger felt amazing.

[analog agate]

I saw hanks ogrynheimer vid. Looks hilarious

[raven mountain]

Also, box is stupid funny

[analog agate]

With how OP we are now I think duos is the way to go

[fluid skiff]

anyone have a psyker tree that plays primarily around the force greatsword?

I cobbled one together that uses the heavy attack smite electrocute and scriers, but idk where to go from there

or even if those are the right call

[analog agate]

I use this

[raven mountain]

Anyone else have issues even equipping their blitz in a match?

^ That's mostly what I use with a few tweaks

[analog agate]

I heavily invest in SG but you can remove some of those nodes and put them elsewhere

Or get rid of bottom on keystone (some melee psykers do that)

[fluid skiff]

what curios are best for it? I'm guessing stamina and toughness

Has Unstable Power 4 always been only +5%?

I thought it was higher

[proud mantle]

did bb get nerfed? i see its not killing gunners in one hit, even with the empowered keystone buff

[patent jacinth]

In what mode/difficulty

[shadow wigeon]

4x 5%

[proud mantle]

mortis trials, which should just be normal damnation

[patent jacinth]

Mortis has up to 2.5x hp scaling dependent on wave

[proud mantle]

ahhhh

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/fgs-melee-psyker

The ranged can be anything

Trauma is always good

Surge

Revolver

[nocturne dust]

I would recommend not following FyreStone's recommendation

Diabolic's is more sane

[sturdy reef]

why do healing enemies stack on each other

bro

[nocturne dust]

banner ptsd triggering

[raven mountain]

At minimum, games mostly have learned that enemy heal bots don't auto heal one another.

Like they're immune to the effect

[sturdy reef]

I thought we'd have learned by now

[nocturne dust]

well-designed games*

This is a problem in many games, like Warframe as well

[sturdy reef]

bro

[raven mountain]

I mean, yeah, it's a well-designed thing, but most games don't have it.

I thought they'd fixed it in Warframe.

[sturdy reef]

the ancient protector eximi

thats exactly what I was thinking

they at least fixed it this patch

[nocturne dust]

They've fixed and reintroduced it multiple times

I'm sure it will not be the last

[raven mountain]

And even then, I haven't thought about them in years because they all blow the fuck up so fast.

Really takes into the 300s for things to stop disintegrating on sight.

[sturdy reef]

endurance void cascade is fun

I wish it ramped up quicker

[raven mountain]

That was my issue with steel path early on.

It gave a nice starting point, but it needed to move up quicker.

[nocturne dust]

They overhauled the numbers of the game kinda recently

again

and then immediately introduced stacking infested healers (sound familiar?)

[raven mountain]

Yeah, I'm some months out from having played it last.

[sturdy reef]

shield gating my beloved

[nocturne dust]

ugh, I played Revenant just to avoid the shield gating

[proper osprey]

ur so mean to me

[sturdy reef]

just play dante and get overguard gating

and buff your status' to the 12 digits

[nocturne dust]

when I was doing Rev there wasn't a Dante, overguard, or any real alternatives cuz HP would just explode instantly

other than maybe really annoying Rhino style

[sturdy reef]

rhino still has great overguard

[nocturne dust]

yeh, but that's also new

[sturdy reef]

yeah I remember when it was ferrite armor

[ripe obsidian]

Mortis Trials are... not particularly interesting

[restive slate]

They are for casual malice players I think

[ripe obsidian]

The boons aren't even fun. At least, not the ones I've gotten

[restive slate]

Craziest one I saw was the unlimited ammo during ability

[ripe obsidian]

I learned that Trauma RMB doesn't count as a ranged attack

So none of my boons did anything

[nocturne dust]

Lawd, I decided to play Dclaw in Mortis Trials and hitting a random mook twelve times in the head and having them survive is feels bad time 😔

[nocturne dust]

There's also the blazeburn

AKA burn on ranged hit + purgatus = double dot shenanigans

goes up to 31 burn too

[restive slate]

Uoooogh

[stark crown]

I don’t think you’ve seen biggest box + duping frags

Literally 6 Ogryn frags going off

[ripe obsidian]

I did have one trial where the director went crazy. Something like 20 bosses in a single round

[nocturne dust]

It feels like the faster you kill bosses, the more it spawns

[ripe obsidian]

I can't figure out which Psyker staff is actually any good in there. They all feel meh

[nocturne dust]

True

[potent echo]

How's weaves 2.0

Or chaos waste 1.5

[restive slate]

More Fortunes of War and Chaos Wastes had a baby

[summer prairie]

fortunes of war was much harder though

[ripe obsidian]

Fortunes of War was harder, Chaos Wastes was more fun

[potent echo]

Understandable that's a pretty good analogy

[ripe obsidian]

Mortis Trials are a solid 4/10.

[restive slate]

Mortis Trials need more crazy stuff

[potent echo]

Tbh fortunes of war would be so much easier with sprint and mantling

[nocturne dust]

Mortis Trials is harder when you join mid-match

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Inferno is still Inferno

but I think they gave the other classes better buffs in Trials

[torn kernel]

Sg vb actually good now ✊ 😔

[nocturne dust]

Is it?

[torn kernel]

Who needs vent when you can just do an rmb

Blaze build tho idk if brittle flurry got fucked by the qc changes

[nocturne dust]

Rending trauma never needed QC

[ripe obsidian]

Well, yes. But Purg isn't very much fun for me without quell cancel

[nocturne dust]

I mean, none of the staves ever needed QC

[ripe obsidian]

Just turn off brain and LMB

[torn kernel]

Tru

[nocturne dust]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh

[ripe obsidian]

Doesn't need it. But it was fun.

[nocturne dust]

RMB is the better DPS output by far

[ripe obsidian]

I know.

But LMB was fun to staggerlock everything

[nocturne dust]

eh, agree to disagree

[torn kernel]

At that point just go with a vb lmao

[nocturne dust]

gotta have some danger for it to be fun

[ripe obsidian]

I disagree to agree to disagree

[nocturne dust]

So you agree?

[ripe obsidian]

I use both

[nocturne dust]

[ripe obsidian]

You've caught me. My ruse was not clever enough

Anyway, I think I will use rending trauma a lot in new havoc

[near wyvern]

Guess I will go back to testing today and start rolling updates on Atheneum

[nocturne dust]

so same old, same old?

[ripe obsidian]

Hey, I'm gonna be using rending trauma as my main weapon instead of purgatus. It is very slightly different

[potent echo]

Did they give us havoc training grounds yet

Or do we at least have a mod equivalent

[raven mountain]

So tell me, why does the first 6 rounds of the new trials feel like something between sedition and malice?

[nocturne dust]

Can't believe I have to take warp expenditure to avoid crashing 😔

[near wyvern]

Trauma RMB QC makes you immune to melee

Hope that is not gone

[nocturne dust]

Uh, you were already immune to melee with Trauma RMB

just don't full charge

[raven mountain]

I didn't mind getting in a few extra puffs of inferno or a quick burst of shots to kill a gunner. But QC needed fixing.

I will miss the mechanic, but as it was, it was beyond stupid.

[nocturne dust]

I haven't even messed with QC after the change

Didn't touch it before

[potent echo]

Trauma rmb QC was totally fine

[ripe obsidian]

I never quell canceled trauma RMB

[strong gulch]

There's a few mods.

True solo can set up havocs with different modifiers. IDK if it's working right now post update.

There's some others that set up scenarios and pre-stack buffs.

[potent echo]

They just needed to touch lmb

[raven mountain]

I'm happy that it forces 1 quell because I accidentally cancelled my quelling a few times and it always felt bad.

[near wyvern]

The things that benefitted the most from QC:

• Electro LMB
• Purga LMB
• Trauma RMB
• Assail LMB

[summer prairie]

assail qc is still there

[potent echo]

Assail qc real

[near wyvern]

Sweet

[restive slate]

What is qc?

[potent echo]

Quell cancel

[strong gulch]

L1 spam on deimos QC, but that's less common and can still be done with BC.

Haven't tested tho

[restive slate]

Oh I heard they patched out quell cancel on staffs

[potent echo]

Yes

[strong gulch]

@potent echo
IDK if Datatide Test Spawner has havoc settings. I THINK it does.

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/176
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/478
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/479

[summer prairie]

It's so goofy you can just swing your knife now to trigger EE

or mettle

[strong gulch]

Some mods are causing crashes and what not tho

[strong gulch]

Is that back now??

[summer prairie]

yes

[strong gulch]

[potent echo]

You don't even need to hit anything?

[summer prairie]

nope

[potent echo]

I assume mettle is still in its post nerf state

Where it only procs once per swing

[strong gulch]

I miss pre stacking crit procs. So silly.

[potent echo]

[summer prairie]

I haven't tested it but since it only checks for your weapon critting rather than hitting, probably

[nocturne dust]

Finally

Consistent speed buff

Fatshark be praised 🙏

[potent echo]

Actually a reason to use knife over DS (not really)

[nocturne dust]

Well currenty, mettle is in its extremely bugged state

as always

[strong gulch]

bugs piling on bugs with mettle.

[nocturne dust]

I haven't bothered checking since it's bugged enough to crash the game, but I'm wondering if the staves still act incredibly wonky with it

[summer prairie]

they shouldn't, though not sure how purg behaves

[strong gulch]

I hope after the hotfix it works properly. I want old mettle back tho.

Let VB fill its toughness up with a blast again.

[summer prairie]

but mettle doesn't crash in psykhanium, so you can mess around with it

[nocturne dust]

True but my assumption is how mettle works will change once the crash is fixed

so any results prior to the hotfix are null and void

'change' programmatically, not in a gameplay sense

[summer prairie]

I doubt it will change, but it will have to change at some point

It's functioning the way the "intended", except for the bug

[strong gulch]

Before this crashing bug, wasn't mettle not working correctly with purg/ inferno?

[summer prairie]

it was working in very unintuitive ways

[nocturne dust]

I don't remember them fixing how it worked with any of the staves

That is, Voidstrike ignoring the changes to one-per-projectile, Trauma just not working, and Purgatus working on the first hit of each target or something like that

[summer prairie]

you might get a double proc now with the surge blessing, but probably not

[strong gulch]

Right. Those are what I'm wondering about.

[summer prairie]

even without testing it should just give you a single proc when the weapon crits, whether you hit anything or not

forgot to check whether they changed Souldrinker to refresh

[fathom dust]

Wasn't just up to 4x. That was at max peril. It was 5% to 20%. So at no peril you had +5% power, and at half peril you had 12.5% more power.

[alpine delta]

I'm really missing the speedboost from mettle tbh

[strong gulch]

WE is almost like missing a node.

[plucky flax]

I'm going on strike

No gaming until fixed

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[raven mountain]

So I assume there's no "look out for" date for the hotfix for mettle?

All but one of my builds took it.

[summer prairie]

most likely today or tomorrow

you are unlikely to crash with some builds, it's mostly purg and high fire rate guns that crash you

and surge

[dull scroll]

cleared to 33, this new havoc is goated

[proper osprey]

gaze can prevent overload damm

thats just silly

[fringe robin]

Any insights as to which Psyker builds.loadouts have helped you? My team is stuck around Havoc 30 and I'm wondering what I could do to / what other people are doing

[dull scroll]

VB and bubble

hands down

[nocturne dust]

"I am not changing the meta. Pray I do not leave it unchanged further."

[potent echo]

I'm tired boss

[dull scroll]

this new havoc just kicked purge off the meta pedestal

[raven mountain]

I don't want to havoc until I have mettle back

[dull scroll]

like 20 bulwark spawn, the hell you doing to do without VB

[nocturne dust]

Purge was only ever the max meta if all you wanted was damage

but it's still that

[potent echo]

Nerf unlimited cleave please

[nocturne dust]

so nothing has changed

[nocturne dust]

Purge goes through shields

[summer prairie]

purg is still very good, if not better than before due to there being even more hordes

[nocturne dust]

[dull scroll]

20 bulwark spawn in the middle of 2 bosses, forgot that last part

cause boss now is just avg spawn

[nocturne dust]

Purge is higher DPS on bosses than trauma

[potent echo]

What if I wanna use VS or EK

[nocturne dust]

in fact, purge is the best staff for bosses

soooooo

purge meta

[potent echo]

I think with 2 bosses your priority isn't dps

But like trying to live

[dull scroll]

the best thing for boss for psyker is that dagger

staff blows

[potent echo]

Yea you want to melee bosses

[nocturne dust]

Fair, but again purge vs trauma has always been damage vs safety

[potent echo]

You can control them pretty well if you can dodge dance

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus is many times safer than any melee

[potent echo]

Against a spawn tho

[nocturne dust]

and, on top, you can combine Purgatus with melee for even more damage

[dull scroll]

lol, it is absolutely not

[nocturne dust]

use knife -> run away -> purge

[potent echo]

Yea you can I was the uncanny SB man

[dull scroll]

at least in the current havoc

[nocturne dust]

[dull scroll]

used to be you still get breathing room to channel flames

[proper osprey]

tbh a meta setup wound be purg, trauma 2 books

[dull scroll]

now it's ballz to the wallz every second

[nocturne dust]

No, you never needed breathing room for purge?

[summer prairie]

you don't have to channel, you just lmb occasionally

[nocturne dust]

Point-blank purging is time-honored tradition

[dull scroll]

yeah while the boss or other mob wack you 😒

[nocturne dust]

git gud

[dull scroll]

no, the best thing now is that dagger with the stabby push atk

[proper osprey]

depends on the situation

[placid rune]

any good? lol

[nocturne dust]

I accept 0 opinions from a Warp Expenditure lover

[proper osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367834588753690655/1211694416818086018/vegeta_smart.gif

love you too

[nocturne dust]

Ok. So ignore you, because you teach people nothing

[proper osprey]

you need to be nice to me

[nocturne dust]

You need to be nice to ER

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-red-red-cat-evil-cat-normal-cat-gif-7123425318368299957

[fringe robin]

I can see purg/trauma working as I've used both to get to Havoc 40 before the patch, but in this new Havoc I'm having trouble contributing meaningfully when there's 3-4 bosses.

Not sure if this is a me issue or if we need to adjust compositions

[raven mountain]

I've always considered purge to be amazing into bosses. Single, multiple, and the horde with them. Can weave in a puff here or there to maintain stacks and just go about surviving while they dot down.

Maybe the regen thing kills that, idk. Will find out when mettle gets fixed.

[dull scroll]

if there's boss your job is to bubble up and clear horde

or specials

[fringe robin]

What do you run with this setup? BB, Smite, Assail?

[dull scroll]

BB

[fringe robin]

Same here, I'll give it another go

Thanks everyone for the input

[fringe robin]

Sorry to bother you again, are you a fan of Rending/Flurry or Nexus/Blazing?

[dull scroll]

Rending/Flurry

[plucky flax]

Both gud for havoc. If there's a burga psyker already go rending

Or you can also use it as lone psyker but I tend to prefer blaze trauma as solo psyker

[summer prairie]

in the new havoc trauma is good for the 20 rampaging bulwark waves

[plucky flax]

New havoc too hard

[proper osprey]

anyone else getting overloaded when using warp unbound with assail?

[dull scroll]

you mean like blowing up at 100% peril despite having WU?

[proper osprey]

yup

[dull scroll]

yes it's a well known bug

[proper osprey]

happen 3 times in a row

[dull scroll]

caused by the talents that reduce peril

[proper osprey]

got so mad i left and hopped on vet

[upbeat kestrel]

Scriers now reducec peril no?

[dull scroll]

it's because of this thing and possibly the other 2 talents like it as well

[proper osprey]

yeah but when it ends and if you have warp unbound you can use 10 secs of 100 peril

[proper osprey]

LIVE melee psyker reaction

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-gif-3856828056806738138

me watching the timer appear as im blowing up

smile

[dull scroll]

you just gotta stop casting at like 95% and wait until the WU timer starts 😒

very boner kill

[proper osprey]

yarp

its always when i try to weave

[radiant frigate]

never

[radiant frigate]

oh so it's back again?

[marble crater]

It was gone?

[radiant frigate]

idk

i haven't had scrier's explode me for a while

so i thought it was gone

but i also haven't been running crack of bone

[dull scroll]

I personally haven't played gunker in forever so I don't know, but if he says he's exploding right now 🤔

[cosmic sigil]

i have never exploded with sg + cob + wu

[near wyvern]

Oki Melee psyker can actually become real with this patch

[marble crater]

Also didn't explode a single time in Mortis yesterday

[near wyvern]

Charged strike deals significant damage and lowers hit to kill values

[radiant frigate]

charged strike is real?

[marble crater]

4 times more real

[radiant frigate]

it's so fucking peak

is it still only on heavies

[nocturne dust]

never left

[nocturne dust]

still no

maybe if they give it another 4x

[radiant frigate]

what if it was +x% of strike damage as a zappy DoT

[ornate hamlet]

Is mettle still causing us to crash or has it been patched yet?

[near wyvern]

This is complete bogus, it's around 14 damage per tick for carapace, 20-30 for unarmoured flak infested and 27-33 for maniacs. 8 ticks total within 2s.

It's an RNG dot

So total damage is around 80 to 240 depending on what you are hitting

Mid you Warp Rupture is still 100-200 damage with distance falloff

Also stun wall shield significantly buffed

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

[near wyvern]

No. With the current thing you max cleave and get the full dot damage if you touch someone with 1 damage cleave

[jovial juniper]

Rare Pygex apparition

[jovial juniper]

Still bugged

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmmm that number doesn't match mine for carapace, I was lower. You have buff?

[near wyvern]

14 per tick ish

The UI doesn't always stack the damage to a single value

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Is it affected by weapon perks or something?

[near wyvern]

I gotta double check

It is at least affected by enfeeble

But in the end the carapace damage doesn't really matter

It's the fact that you can reduce hits to kill values against maniacs and flaks

And horde damage on cleave is great

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmm, most of the meta weapons kill those things in very few hits, often even a single hit.

I could see it being used on less meta weapons, but I rarely see those weapons at all.

[jovial juniper]

Claw 1 Rampage Skullcrusher Charged Strike

[nocturne dust]

Too bad it's only heavies. I prefer lights for horde.

[marble crater]

[torn kernel]

taxe PA heavy loop

[nocturne dust]

FGS, dueling sword, knife, combat axe

[torn kernel]

is it bad that i just spam fgs lights for horde

[dull scroll]

is that havoc? 😭

[marble crater]

Fortunately only Mortis, still

[nocturne dust]

Mettle not working is the real gunker nerf

[drifting steeple]

i got the mettle crash :(

[near wyvern]

@nocturne dust by hitting a dereg rager once with a grey knife melee and finishing it with BB casts, did the same with first charges strike, waiting for the dot to finish, switch talents to BB and calculate how much damage was exactly dealt to the dreg rager

Around 250-325 damage to dreg rager for one application of dot

[nocturne dust]

[near wyvern]

That's without buffs

[nocturne dust]

Neat.

[near wyvern]

The "60" damage is complete bogus

[marsh badger]

What's up with stun wall shield being buffed?

[jovial juniper]

Chance of dealing electrocution damage

[near wyvern]

@nocturne dust tested some more, there is more to the dot. You get 4 to 8 ticks and it seems to depend on how much the enemy gets staggered by the hit. So knife heavy vs crusher heads & bulwark shields result in 4 ticks where as hitting a maniac/unarmoured target yields 8 ticks. Flak gives 8 with knife.

Gotta test a couple more weapons to make sure it's stagger and not by armour type

[clear rivet]

OMG I THOUGHT THATS HOW THE SKILL IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE SMH

[jovial juniper]

In theory up put two walls down, have groaners run through it and if you're lucky they take 300 damage

Wall horde clear 💀

[near wyvern]

@nocturne dust got 11 stacks vs flak with shock maul so confirmed, tick count scales with impact

[marble crater]

This is too funny

[jovial juniper]

[torn kernel]

what the fuck

[near wyvern]

[jovial juniper]

So not mass like smite

Welp there goes my Shock and Awe on Shock Maul

[near wyvern]

And there seems to be some randomness to the tick count amount as well

Usually you get 7-8 ticks though

And found a bug. Applying the dot on a target that already is affected by it removes the dot damage.

Sigh

Just as things were looking lit

Doesn't always cut it completely but seems to reduce tick counts

[drifting steeple]

kinda miffed this collar doesnt match

[marble crater]

Very sad

Maybe the new EU guidelines lead to a big change in the FOMO shop and we can finally buy everything, all the time

[haughty star]

I still think it'll make a nice supplement to perilous for a quick trash clear on more single target heavy weapons

[fossil snow]

im not sure yet

[haughty star]

@near wyvern does it proc warp damage/death/etc talents?

[fossil snow]

but autopistol sprint efficiently kinetic flayer disrupt destiny speedball psyker might be my new religion

[jovial juniper]

Watch out mettle is bugged

[fossil snow]

incidentally has anyone who runs flayer crashing A BUNCH when it goes?

[haughty star]

It sounds like mettle is making people crash if you have that

[wind spruce]

It's in the patch notes

[hollow jolt]

Apparently you have to let your stacks reset occasionally lol

[wind spruce]

You can easily proc it in one clip with recon

[torn kernel]

or in one shot with a double barrel

😔

[hollow jolt]

Inferno staff + Scier's Gaze for crash speedrun

[fossil snow]

mettle mettle

whats mettle again?

[hollow jolt]

Psyker buddy is just waiting till the hotfix lol

[marble crater]

Toughness on crit, top right in the tree

[fossil snow]

OH

oh yeah

yup

that explains the crashes

[hollow jolt]

Pretty much most psykers use it

[torn kernel]

i swear it crashed when i shot like 10 bullets into a horde with the VIAG

[fossil snow]

it feels good AND is good

[torn kernel]

it really doesn't take much to trigger the crash

[fossil snow]

when random stuff makes you crash on other classes its a bug

when it happens to psyker, you can argue its flavor

[torn kernel]

new peril of the warp dropped

boots you out of the game

[fossil snow]

rolled 1

banished to the warp

[gray zephyr]

too powerful for unchecked mettle

[tacit stump]

you ripped reality appard with void magic

[restive slate]

Is there a crash related to Psykers?

I crashed twice playing Gunpsyker in one mission

[torpid bough]

get 30 crits with mettle and you die

crits count even if you're not shooting at anything

[tiny ridge]

I had two BSoDs these days during two auric damnation runs with psyker. Running assail shield build.

This is class related? 🤣

[marble crater]

What's BSoD?

[tiny ridge]

Bluescreen of death

[marble crater]

If you crash it could be because of Mettle and criting too much, whether it's bad enough to bluescreen people I don't know

[vernal temple]

Now I Am Become Cringe

[marble crater]

Colors are not even bad, why did it have to be such a pattern

[shadow wigeon]

Has there been any chatter from FS about Mortis difficulty?

[near wyvern]

haven't tested that

[jovial juniper]

Yes
Mettle is bugged, it sends the Warp to your computer

[vernal frost]

WELCOME BACK SKITTERGATE PORTAL BUG

FIXED IN VT2
CAME BACK IN DARKTIDE

[marble crater]

[signal atlas]

Hello brothers, trying to figure out where I should allocate skill points, is soul stealer worth it? I was trying to get battle meditation and I notice a lot of people don’t use soul stealer would that be worth the trade? I have mettle and quietitude equipped as well for toughness regen

Also I’m running inferno staff

[analog agate]

Soul stealer is always taken over battle meditation if the choice is between both

[humble skiff]

when is that hotfix coming out so we can play psyker again

[humble skiff]

so we arent allowed to play a quarter of the game for a whole week? thats quite sad

[marble crater]

You can also just play without mettle

[jovial juniper]

💀

[marble crater]

Also won't be a whole week, more like 3 days if the hot fix is on Friday

[analog agate]

You can also play with mettle. I have been doing VB and EK and never crashed

[jovial juniper]

Just don't go gunker

[marble crater]

Or that

[patent mango]

update yesterday!!

[humble skiff]

just dont play any of the staves or half the guns while actually trying

[long wharf]

just don't play a build that does 30 crits a second

[humble skiff]

👍 good advice

[loud girder]

complaining about it wont make them magically fix it

[humble skiff]

if enough people whine about it maybe they hurry up a little

[loud girder]

wish it worked that way

i would be whining nonstop

[long wharf]

yeah no, that has never worked

[loud girder]

yep

[humble skiff]

or learn to not disable most of the effective builds for one of the classes every major update

might just be me being too hopeful

[blissful solar]

they never asked for this

looks at robo-arm

[long wharf]

look, it's a FartShack game

there will always be things like this

[humble skiff]

yea im just trying to cope

[long wharf]

multiple of them, every patch

[analog agate]

Well, we can all just go play ogryn. Who is better than psyker now

[formal harness]

Ogryn still doesnt have free infinite cleave dots weapon that doesnt use ammo tho

purg and trauma will be meta for new havoc 40 still

[jovial juniper]

Well they have something close to it

[formal harness]

shield is kinda close

gg also is

rumbler also

[jovial juniper]

Explosives setting things on fire raaaaah

[formal harness]

but it takes too much investing into the right side to grab those honestly

and still no infinite ammo ofc

imagine if power maul applied burn

[analog agate]

I did bullbutcher yesterday. It was essentially infinite. I was just pressing W all game and never ran into any challenge. Nearly no health lost. I really couldn’t believe it lol

[formal harness]

havoc 40?

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah Butcher w m1

[analog agate]

No one has done a havoc 40 yet.

[jovial juniper]

True ogryn mind gameplay

[long wharf]

I've switched to the bully club on my ogryn

[formal harness]

I was talking about havoc 40 experience, ogryn psyker with one relic zel still feels like the play

[analog agate]

Well, maybe now they have. Maybe.

[long wharf]

the slap is so enjoyable

[signal atlas]

So soul stealer over battle meditation?

[analog agate]

Yes

[formal harness]

relic will be less prominent now we don't need to deal with too much blight spreads

less going down the aura

[analog agate]

Uppercut punch is great on cleaver too

[formal harness]

still pretty op tho

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-gif-18124999

vet be like

[long wharf]

I mean, you won't need two relic zealots, just the one

[jovial juniper]

Well I'm personally a fan Soulstealer

[long wharf]

yellow toughness will still be how the team gets through smoothly

[long wharf]

I'm going to play with that now

did its damage go up?

[formal harness]

vet might have a spot with all the damage amp and boss removal with krak focus targets build

[analog agate]

Slaughterer and tenderizer for blessings

[formal harness]

also frags for mass clear is still a thing

[signal atlas]

Okay gotcha, now how do we feel about essence Harvest

[steel flame]

well......mortis is...something? kinda wish we had gotten something longer like COUGH COUGH CHAOS WASTES COUGH

[prime elk]

vet's main role is being the ammo bitch now

[long wharf]

the slap is just... between the sound and the way everything ragdolls is just 🤌

heavy hitter upgrade giving cleave is great

and the fact that I get HH stacks by slapping is equally great

[analog agate]

HH stacks from all attacks is game changer

[long wharf]

I'm considering renaming my ogryn either SirSlapsalot or Slapaholic

[open creek]

I had this mod and the error occurred frequently.😐

[long wharf]

last night, I would sometimes fight a mixed horde just by slapping

just [sounds of meaty slaps intensifies]

[open creek]

Yeah, that happens to today.... 🥴

[marble crater]

I played gunker earlier and just didn't take mettle, it's easy to avoid the crash

[haughty star]

Yeah but gunker without mettle means you have to grab warp expenditure which is grody

[marble crater]

I felt the missing toughness for sure

But that could also just me really playing gunker for the first time

[shadow wigeon]

They are nothing if not consistent, years running now

The Mortis balance has me confused, I don't understand how this made it out of testing.... surely there's a group of testers that reported it...

[marble crater]

I think it just wasn't intended to be another havoc

Also wished for more enemies though

[shadow wigeon]

I can sort of understand that, but there's always the "you're choosing the difficulty" argument...

but damnation Mortis is eepy time

[restive slate]

Hoping for modifier "Chance for enemies to double on death"