psyker-class

[deft stump]

Is 7 rn, btw.

[long wharf]

Psyker already feels squishy with two toughness curios, having less would be like having no toughness at all

[zinc phoenix]

Simply don’t be hit

[deft stump]

Do I look like I need 7 +3 stam?

[zinc phoenix]

Fivehead

[long wharf]

just get good

[cloud night]

Yea just dont get hit
Duh

[worthy wasp]

Permablock... with a dclaw?

[near gale]

Remember guys: watch out for this guy lol

[long wharf]

report it to the mods

[deft stump]

I get so many of those, it's not even funny.

[formal harness]

that has the same energy as the steam dm you get saying:
hey bro you available?
can you vote for my team?

[near gale]

I ignored it, can I still report it? :\

[long wharf]

no clue

[formal harness]

dw I gotchu

[marble crater]

What's the scam here? I don't get scam DMs often

[near gale]

idk either, but, it looked sus to me lol

[formal harness]

all of these scams end with a sketchy link

remember

don't click any links sent to you by rando people

[long wharf]

you should try getting more popular, then

[marble crater]

All the scam DMs I get start with a steam gift card link right away, never works though sadly

[formal harness]

alr that guy's gone

[near gale]

Yep, I had someone try to convince me my steam account was in trouble or something and that a "steam" moderator needed my password and stuff

[marble crater]

With scammers? I pass

[long wharf]

just remember folks - the scams may seem incredibly stupid, but if they didn't work at all on anybody, the scammers wouldn't be trying them

[deft stump]

I was a trader... So got used to them anyway.

[formal harness]

it's all about success rate

[near gale]

0.0001% is not 0%

[cloud night]

No matter what any body says, feeding Ogryns warpfire cooked heretic meat is perfectly safe.

All the voices in my head that sound like magnus the red assure me so

[long wharf]

it's not about "success rate", but about "return on time spent"

[formal harness]

it might be only 1 person out of 10000 that actually clicks on the link

but you send it to 1 mil people

[long wharf]

it only takes one good hit to justify hours of trying

[near gale]

isn't that 100 people then?

[long wharf]

and because the scam is automated, the effort to try 100 people vs 100000 people is essentially nothing

[formal harness]

pretty sure the click rate is higher than 1 in 10000 lol

[near gale]

I mean based on the 1 in 10000 statistics

[formal harness]

and 100 people scammed is a damn bad statistic regardless

[long wharf]

well, that depends on both timeframe and victims found

[upper sun]

hi

what are we talking about

[long wharf]

how Darktide is really a big fishing scam

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/dogfish-fish-dog-ocean-coral-reef-gif-11537277813045151760

[deft stump]

Go back to helping ppl with MM. Stares.

[upper sun]

no im sick and busy

[deft stump]

I mean, i fish for carries to carry me back to H40.

[upper sun]

🚬

[deft stump]

See what I mean?

[upper sun]

its ok

havoc will just get nerfed again

[deft stump]

WDYM nerf? Bloody rituals going to be a pain.

[upper sun]

they nerfed it from testing till release

im sure itll be easier than the playtesters thought like last time

[deft stump]

Maybe,

[near gale]

havoc gets buffed and forces you to play it

[upper sun]

i will not play havoc until they remove partyfinder and add qickplay

[near gale]

it pulls you into a game with 3 level 1 players

[upper sun]

good

ill speed run it

[near gale]

on damnation

[upper sun]

🤔

what do i have

[near gale]

taxe

4

[upper sun]

damn its over

[near gale]

and autopistol

on Vet

[upper sun]

i already tapped out smh

[near gale]

and the 3 level 1's hard carry you

[upper sun]

if it works it works

[near gale]

but you get no rewards cuz you dc at the end

[upper sun]

eh idc im rich

[near gale]

40 minutes in

causing you to lose 99% of your plasteel and diamantine

[cloud night]

Fuck that

[upper sun]

i have everything maxed

[near gale]

and you lose all thammer mastery

[cloud night]

Like clad said
Party finder has made people insufferable

[upper sun]

i will walk to sweden and fix it myself

[marble crater]

If you can walk to Sweden, you can also help people with their penance

[deft stump]

@marble crater

[long wharf]

ogryn should be allowed to pair the shield with any one-handed melee weapon

[upper sun]

priorities

[marble crater]

Good, 9 more levels

[deft stump]

Nu. Boring. Carry me.

[marble crater]

I can later for a few missions

[dense wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/peach-goma-carry-basket-gif-7907136615076885881

[plucky flax]

@deft stump no u

[marble crater]

We should all play in SEA and Karien carries us

[sacred crane]

Siblings...give me cool loadout to use

Im bored of snore mimimi ds4 and inferno and trauma staff

[small whale]

electric spam 😼

[sacred crane]

no die

[nocturne dust]

devil's claw + autoshredder

[marble crater]

I also vote for EK

[deft stump]

Nu.

[deft stump]

Nu, YOU.

Halp, GF wants to play boomer psyker build.

HALP.

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

My sanity...

Wait, wat sanity?

[marble crater]

That is how we feel

[deft stump]

You play boomer psyker as well?

[marble crater]

I don't even know what you mean by that

[deft stump]

Martyrdom psyker.

[marble crater]

I see

Did you maybe mean ex GF?

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/haruhi-suzumiya-plotting-gif-22344914

[deft stump]

Halp. She now wants to run into every DH...

[cloud night]

You'll be aight

[upper sun]

get a hammer and defend her....

[upbeat kestrel]

who wants to run into demonhosts

[marble crater]

Zealots

[formal harness]

man, those demonhosts tho

||don't let my fiancee see this||

[deft stump]

Nu.

[deft stump]

My GF on lvl 3 psyker.

[upbeat kestrel]

WHYYYY

[deft stump]

Well, lvl 5 now but...

e_e

[formal harness]

we need someone to write a fanfic for the demonhosts

so I can reference it

just like vermintide

[deft stump]

You maybe.

[formal harness]

and elven kloakas

[deft stump]

I only crackship the loner and the judge

[formal harness]

if you know, I salute you good sir/ma'am.

[deft stump]

I just need to run into them first. She can bb them to death in 5 hours, right?

Halp, she wants to explode on psyker again...

And she went to bed... my sanity...

[upbeat kestrel]

can you explain to her that exploding as psyker is not the goal

[deft stump]

She knows. She's a gremlin.

[marble crater]

You are both gremlins

[deft stump]

She's more of one.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[cloud night]

Time to get on n kill shit

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/my-main-goal-is-to-blow-up-and-act-like-i-don't-know-nobody-my-main-goal-is-to-blow-up-hahaha-gif-2863015232596367169

[marble crater]

The hell

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/kazuichi-soda-kazuichi-danganronpa-2-picmix-necknation-gif-13316240903967138103

[cloud night]

Shit looks like those 2012 blingee pics

Cursed

[deft stump]

Sure, she can go to malice on lvl 3 but...

[plucky flax]

I can play couple rounds in maelstrom.

Power level some noob SEA grills.

[deft stump]

She went to bed.

[plucky flax]

Okay I go and deliverence some kingdom.

[graceful grotto]

Where do I look here for meta builds? General chat told me to go here

[deft stump]

I'm half ded and regretting trying to do stealth loner penances.

[plucky flax]

Jesus Christ be praised.

[narrow herald]

Pysker meta is:

press 2 buttons

everything dies

[deft stump]

Like how she rails the stars?

[plucky flax]

You can check the pinned message by beans.

[narrow herald]

isnt that guide outdated tho? 🤔

[plucky flax]

No this is current #psyker-class message

[upper sun]

@deft stump join me

+1

[deft stump]

I just got off.

[upper sun]

near end event

rip

[narrow herald]

dam no BB inferno hype 😔

[upper sun]

just ended

[deft stump]

I was on my zealot anyway.

[plucky flax]

You can run anything with burga it's too op

[deft stump]

Switching classes takes forever.

[plucky flax]

No build required for it.

Put on blaze away nexus and meme.

[narrow herald]

||https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da78396-6930-41db-849a-2ed1688d22ab/ogryn-havoc-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button||

||https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da78034-dbda-4eff-aebc-f5660464fab7/vet-havoc-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button||

||https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da78109-a3e5-43fc-8015-cb87ce5612a2/zealot-havoc-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button||

||https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da782a8-435c-461a-9de7-e972aa78d0da/psyker-havoc-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button||

These are what I use for havoc, but idk if they are "meta" in other maelstroms

bruh

😔

[radiant frigate]

since when does she play this

[narrow herald]

how do I get rid of the previews

[deft stump]

Since I started. Two friends offered me copies during humble monthly.

[graceful grotto]

Wow thank you!

[deft stump]

I just play it way more than her.

[graceful grotto]

What's the best horde clear psyker?

[radiant frigate]

flamer/shriek

[graceful grotto]

Is there an EK build that does that?

[plucky flax]

Ye you equip creeping flames and spam f.

[radiant frigate]

EK itself no but because it has shriek, yes

[narrow herald]

scream into the void and the wave goes away

[deft stump]

But she did zealot, oggy, vet and now psyker.

[marble crater]

Why did you mark them all as spoiler?

[north tartan]

We don’t want people to have their build creation spoiled

[strong gulch]

Maybe it's one of my builds. What it if it's single wall??

[narrow herald]

i was trying to remove the previews so it doesn't take up a whole screen

[marble crater]

[narrow herald]

[marble crater]

Can we not delete the embeds?

[strong gulch]

test for PC
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9df217de-945b-45d8-977d-86e8c4109d4e/purple-sg-fire-trauma-voidblast-lol

[queen fog]

should be given the option with a cool X symbol

[strong gulch]

Test for mobile
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9df217de-945b-45d8-977d-86e8c4109d4e/purple-sg-fire-trauma-voidblast-lol

[north tartan]

It works

[strong gulch]

Works on both. Less obvious what to do on mobile.

[marble crater]

[twilit pebble]

has anyone managed to make a Blazing Spirit build work?

[verbal thistle]

on what weapon?

[twilit pebble]

closest i've come was Scrier's Gaze + Illisi BFS, which blends everything at H20 and AM, but can't deal with range

[verbal thistle]

Blazing spirit is a weapon blessing

[twilit pebble]

blaze force sword

is what i'm currently using

but im not opposed to others, just don't know what else it's on

[verbal thistle]

Are you trying to force blazing to help you with FGS or do you just like it?

because its not good on FGS

[twilit pebble]

i just want to make it in particular work

is there another weapon it's better on?

something faster ig?

[verbal thistle]

mainly just the staffs

Voidblast uses Blazing spirit the best

[twilit pebble]

oh yeah i think i heard that

sorry i should clarify i wanted to use it in melee

[verbal thistle]

Most of psyker weapons have so much dps you dont benefit from applying soulblaze from Blazing because you can 1 or 2 shot every enemy

before the burn damage does anything

[twilit pebble]

yeahhhh

is there no chance that having it on something you're critting elites hard with allows you to clear out chaff around automatically?

this is more of a theory exercise than anything, i really like the idea of setting them all on fire and killing them with that rather than the sword's actual damage

[verbal thistle]

I understand what you are saying

using blazing, but soulblaze on big target

[twilit pebble]

yeah

[verbal thistle]

and with the talent tree spread the fire

The damage that would do is very minimal

Wildfire is what you are saying

but read this real quick

and see that it doesnt do that much

"up to 4 stacks"

[twilit pebble]

Wait, it splits it between them?

That's ridiculous lmao

Yeah i guess you're right

yes i am running perilous and wildfire

thanks for response btw

back to the drawing board

[marble crater]

It's always sad to see when dreams about melee blazing spirit get shattered, we all want it to be viable

[proper plover]

jeeeeez electrokinetic staff is strong

finally learnt it a lot more for the past...6? hours

yeah 6.

dont feel the need for ER, but wow its got power

[prime elk]

it really likes ER

[proper plover]

okay but i also like my toughness

and playing with my blaze force sword as a half-zealot

[marble crater]

I also really like ER. Am I an EK staff?

[proper plover]

real!

[proper plover]

i dont like ER back

[prime elk]

smh

[proper plover]

he's weird and makes my knees a bit weak..

[twilit pebble]

i verified my phone number to ask too

[cloud night]

So lmao
Do these have any use at all?

[proper plover]

look i mean, they HAVE a use..

[prime elk]

lmb spam

[proper plover]

i just dont use them

[cloud night]

Ah lmb spam

[raven mountain]

Yeah. That first node is ass too.

[upper sun]

no

dont look at them

[raven mountain]

Your swap speed is already negligible.

[cloud night]

Uncanny and precog on DS?
Or should I put thrust back on?

[raven mountain]

Thrust is niche at best, from what I understand. Lower dps than normal if you're using it consistently.

Only really useful for those running and sliding pokes. And even then, I'm not sure it's an important breakpoint by itself.

[wide lodge]

thrust sucks balls lmao

[cloud night]

Noted

[raven mountain]

Precog is the biggest payoff.

If you're mostly in it for a stat stick, I do run one of mine with agile. It's not my primary solution for armor, but my, "oh shit, gotta move" button that also kills armor.

Riposte is less payoff but longer uptime if the 2s bothers you.

And ngl, but I barely get to make use of uncanny because I'm rarely swinging long enough to stack it to help my residual soulblaze.

[dull scroll]

thurst is actually good for ds4 with psyker, you mostly pulling out melee for muties and thurst allows you to one shot them

[strong gulch]

It's poopie on everything except voidblast/ trauma.

[marble crater]

Imagine blazing spirit Inferno staff

[raven mountain]

Yeah. I do have a meme scrier's vb with blazing spirit illisi. It's pretty Meh but funny.

I even have a double meme version with a 320 power sword with like 10% damage. More fire!

[twilit pebble]

im gonna perils of the warp irl

[raven mountain]

It's basically that nothing really lives long enough for it to matter.

Like, you do a heavy attack and crit. You're killing the walkers you hit.

You're maybe killing the flak elites you hit.

[raven mountain]

So you now are looking at a mauler. You might kill it before it gets to 12.

It's only a little damage on monsters really.

[strong gulch]

I want to gamble for a lower first target

[marble crater]

Blazing Spirit is as useless on melee as it would be on Voidblast if it only applied on the epicenter

[raven mountain]

Because you aren't truly killing a crusher with illisi unless you're trolling or don't have a good staff for backup.

[dull scroll]

honestly it's even mid on VB, compared to the rend and faster charge up version imo

[raven mountain]

I mean, isn't the scary damage vb the faster charge+warp crits?

[strong gulch]

I take my arrow back, because blazing spirit on sword is SLIGHTLY more useful.

[marble crater]

[raven mountain]

I only like fire vb when I'm using true aim for forced crits.

[dull scroll]

it's the charge up and armor rend version, the warpfire version will still churn out high numbers on the board

[marble crater]

Blazing Nexus or Rending Flurry

[raven mountain]

Whip it out, light up a room, back to knifing.

[dull scroll]

but in practice the non warp fire version is superior

[weary crane]

Uhhhh

[strong gulch]

There a an unrealistic illisi build that can oneshot nonhavoc crusher. It's funny.

[weary crane]

If +60% strength is sucks then idek

[strong gulch]

I take thrust for mutie spam.

[weary crane]

Regardless it more than doubles the damage and doesnt take double the time

[dull scroll]

it's very good for muties, that blessing is only bad if you use ds4 all the time as a melee build

[weary crane]

I mean halfs

[wide lodge]

it has nothing to do with the damage, it has to do with how long it takes to get any damage out on the table

it's impractical

[clear heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1311384845204848853/illisi_propaganda.gif

[strong gulch]

That's the one.

[marble crater]

"Get out of my dream!"

[marble crater]

No sleeves is already great

[ornate hamlet]

going to make nice video out of this tun

[marble crater]

Please don't eat people

[feral verge]

@spice veldt eats people

[cloud night]

Dont listen to the other guy
Eat some more people

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/chomp-claymation-chewing-gif-20168001

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-eating-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-13425073513713719938

[jovial juniper]

She's not eating that

🗣️

[upper sun]

nuh uhhh

she ATE

[plucky flax]

What anime is this?

Is it a cooking anime?

[strong gulch]

No

It's newer on netflix

[upper sun]

frieren

[strong gulch]

ye

that

[upper sun]

its about

uhhhh

[plucky flax]

Okay it's not cooking I am not interested.

[upper sun]

walking around like an old person and remembering shit you regret

[plucky flax]

I want some fat burgers anime.

[upper sun]

the english voice acting is peak

[strong gulch]

more delicious in dungeon pls

[plucky flax]

English dub > Japanese voice always.

[jovial juniper]

Think S2 got announced or at least the production

[plucky flax]

Squid game in english is top tier.

[jovial juniper]

Also kinda wild that Frieren got some good cloth animation

[dull scroll]

that series is a tear jerker

[strong gulch]

English dub + CC

[plucky flax]

I always watch stuff with subtitles.

[strong gulch]

ye

[plucky flax]

Because some actor mumbles hard.

In anime it's good but like in movies some people just speak without opening their mouths.

Try to understand Matthew Mcconaughey be like

[cloud night]

Nothing beats how uncannily in detail the bread scene from yakuza is

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-bread-yakuza7-yakuza-like-a-dragon-yakuza-dragon-bread-dragon-gif-23766918

[strong gulch]

TRULY. The background sounds drowning out the voices.

[dull scroll]

it's even worse in theaters

and there's no cc

[strong gulch]

YES

I hate it.

[prime elk]

actually heretical

[plucky flax]

It's not and I say this as an Asian.

Been consuming manga/anime all my life.

[marble crater]

Blocked

[dull scroll]

I thought he was been ironic with that cat nodding smh

[marble crater]

Not ironic, just a heretic

[marble crater]

That on the other hand was nice

[plucky flax]

Actually not

[dull scroll]

I'll admit, there are a few instance where dub is superior, like ffx or dbz

but in general..

there is just no comparison

[strong gulch]

What about people who can't read fast enough to keep up with the subtitles and can't pay attention to the story because they are reading those subtitles?

Feck them I guess.

[cloud night]

Manga superiority

[dull scroll]

unfortunate collateral

[strong gulch]

gross

[marble crater]

Dubs in different languages should exist, personally I watch sub though

[ornate hamlet]

Vet was quick enough to cover his face from the blood

[marble crater]

Manga doesn't have soundtrack though

[strong gulch]

dub + sub

[marble crater]

Should have worn a helmet, smh

[plucky flax]

You watch german dub

[cloud night]

Not my problem

[marble crater]

I don't think there even is German dub for most anime

[plucky flax]

Anime but the angry guy sounds like a certain Austrian painter.

Seen a few clips of space marine 2 in german actually.

It goes kinda hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPsbPSFG1yQ

[ornate hamlet]

I also saw that one👆

[plucky flax]

Is that good accent?

[dull scroll]

remembering streamers freaking out seeing that scene in german, hilarious 😂

[plucky flax]

@marble crater

[marble crater]

I have past trauma from dub where it just sounds like the people are reading the text and forgot all about the acting part of voice acting

[plucky flax]

It sounds good to non german speaker (me)

Like if I was there I'd be hyped to kill xenos.

[marble crater]

It's proper German, yes

[cloud night]

Ghost Stories english dub

[jovial juniper]

Xenos 🗣️

[cloud night]

If yall dunno bout this lmao

[ornate hamlet]

It sounds like machines, mechanism like gears rotatning and clutching together in dead march

[cloud night]

Prob fkr the best

Idk

[marble crater]

Is that the one where they just made stuff up?

[cloud night]

Yea
A real blast when your drunk or high

To watch

[marble crater]

That's one of those cases it's so bad, it's good

But I wouldn't want to watch something great with bad dub

[dull scroll]

that reminds me, there was a huge scandal of english dubbers a while back

people were just straight up making shit up ignoring original material

[marble crater]

[dull scroll]

same with manga translators

JP was pissed, they now firing them and using AI

[strong gulch]

That's even worse.

[autumn lark]

wildfang

[marble crater]

Most complaints about manga translations I heard is mostly not translating 100% correctly but the meaning is still the same overall

[strong gulch]

Like slightly different voice lines because the actor is bringing something special, the overall meaning is the same, or there isn't a direct translation I get having differences.

But dang

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-13486077408184960752

The corniness makes it good

[marble crater]

I want realism in my anime

[cloud night]

Realism
Anime

Pick one

[ornate hamlet]

We had dbz that was dubbed from french dub think about that

[plucky flax]

Jojo has really good english dub.

[strong gulch]

@marble crater I can't dodge, but I can duck apparently.

[marble crater]

Used up another 10 successful dodges with that one

[strong gulch]

Yip

[marble crater]

Meanwhile I was rescued just now and then immediately got trapped and flamered again, team couldn't get me because of boss. Now I am waiting to get rescued again while there is yet another boss

[strong gulch]

Trap then flame is such a classic. 😭

[cloud night]

I love my warp lined double barrel

[remote nacelle]

any good builds for the psyker?

[cloud night]

Just a nice "fuck off" to ragers

[strong gulch]

gun or staff?

[remote nacelle]

im out of magic but not out of bullets

[remote nacelle]

whichever is strong

[strong gulch]

Both are.

[remote nacelle]

i just finish building zealot

[strong gulch]

Gun and melee builds are about the same talent wise and closest to zealot

[remote nacelle]

idk if staff is good for high levels

[strong gulch]

Staff is good

[cloud night]

Smite build is the universal best build for high levels

It even one shots monstrosities

[remote nacelle]

[clear heath]

autopistol psyker is the strongest build in the game

[remote nacelle]

staff looks more fun if i dont have to worry about ammo

[cloud night]

You got the trauma staff which is decent

Here

[strong gulch]

Inferno as well.
#psyker-class message

[remote nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[plucky flax]

I can't believe they're buffing that op gun

smh it'll 100 to 0 a chaos spawn in 2 secs now

[clear heath]

the world isn't ready for post-buff autopistol gunker

[upper sun]

damn

team got 805 plasteel

i havent seen this number in a year

@marble crater i need one more lights out for a penance

[marble crater]

The reason I went down the first time? Funny soulblaze + bot + DH shenanigans

[upper sun]

lmao its not even up

[marble crater]

Let's go

[upper sun]

the one time i actually want to play it

[marble crater]

Nevermind

[upper sun]

[marble crater]

I'm only at 47/50

[ornate hamlet]

god damn psyker is a blast now

[upper sun]

how do i have more than you

[marble crater]

I can show you why

[ornate hamlet]

Now I feel that psyker is the most op char in darktide

[ornate hamlet]

you can really feel the power of warp

[steel flame]

Maybe ages ago. It's certainly no where close to its glory days of blazeaway/pinning fire anymore

Excited for it to have a place in my line up again though

More than anything the double nerf it got absolutely slaughtered its ammo economy more than anything else and it was already pretty bad with ammo

[merry fern]

Hey, so this may be a dumb question, but I'm brand new to end game stuff, like havoc. Does anyone have a dummy proof build guide that would be good to follow for getting into havoc?

[steel flame]

Hate to be that guy but you might be better off waiting for the update on the 28th.

[vernal frost]

if you want easy mode then just get bubble + flame staff and pratice not blowing up

everything else is extra

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

[merry fern]

I take it there are going to be a lot of balance changes or something?

[steel flame]

I despise anything below havoc 40. 40 is actually fun but you always have demotion hanging over your head so you don't get to slam you face into 40

Getting to 40 is just painful mix of luck and grind

Hope you like using bubble with the same build for 15 hours

[strong gulch]

Could swap BM for soulstealer but bubble, mettle, and quietude should be enough; shit can get messy tho.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dbe5e55-6d6f-4455-87ca-0ae9de736cd3/havoc-40-purg-infero-bubble-with-bm-and-warp-battery

[merry fern]

Eh so far I have run both a bubble flame staff build I found online, and a voidblast build i found online. They aren't too bad, but I'm not entierly sure if they are the right builds to follow.

[strong gulch]

Inferno and voidblast with bubble are meta.

That's what you'll get recomended.

I personally prefer voidblast in havocs.

Unrelated, just updating for a searchable post. ⬇️

Inferno/ purg (non-havoc)
For havocs #psyker-class message

flak + unyielding / crit chance
blaze away + nexus
dump warp resist

Inferno should have flak + personal choice (unyielding / crit chance; each have their merits) for perks and warp nexus + blaze away for blessings. Unyielding helps with monsters, bulwarks, and reapers. Crit chance is universal, helps farm EE, and crits apply 2 SB stacks instead of 1.

*Note: Mettle currently doesn't provide enough toughness regen to reliably fill the bar on its own, so take soulstealer or quietude (especially if bubble toughness gen isn't taken). Soulstealer offers more toughness gen and quietude offers out of combat generation.

The WC build is meta and the general recommendation. WC = warp charges; those are from warp siphon. It focuses on the staff and stacking SB (soulblaze) from multiple sources. Shriek often. 85% peril consistently gets you to a max of 6 SB (soulblaze) stacks from creeping flames that stack onto other SB. If your ability is consistently available before 5 Warp Charges, feel free to drop Warp Battery.

There is an EP BB (empowered psionics; brain burst / brain rupture) build with inferno. That is an EP BB build tho. Inferno just slots in the easiest out of the other staves. In a competent team, you may never really use BB despite being fully invested in it. Inferno is strong enough to carry the build. This is not a meta choice, but it can be nice for far away walls of gunners, specials, and helping with monsters. Note that EP BB does not have great sustain for monsters. Toughness node can be swapped out for Solidity. There is also double wall to stack more KR instead of shriek.

Take a single target melee (monsters and crushers) with unyielding and uncanny on it for you want to melee a boss to max SB DoT damage.

Edge your perils, quell or charge while sliding, and you don't need full RMB charges (half charges are fine).

[merry fern]

Is there a reason to take Inferno vs VB staff? Or is it just prefrence?

[sturdy reef]

CC

VB has much better CC

and can also one tap pox bursters from far away

[strong gulch]

Crushers and CC.

VB can handle them and inferno is vulnerable to them. VB also has bolt primary. Hordes in havocs can more easily run up on you with inferno.

[dull scroll]

VB is better, I have been converted

also the fact elites gonna rage on you when critted in the coming patch

purge looking at a bad time

[strong gulch]

If you get stuck in a small room with a bunch of crushers, VB can handle that while inferno is toast.

That being said, melee exists and inferno is easier to play.

[marble crater]

Critical damage refers to them reaching 30% hp

[dull scroll]

really? that's good to know 😌

[merry fern]

So are the talent builds the same between the two staffs, or do you need to build differently?

[sturdy reef]

I still like inferno because fire

[upper sun]

you can use the same builds on all staves but they are gonna be less effective

voidblast and firestaff are similar for example

[strong gulch]

@analog agate What's your havoc fire trauma build? I know you build slightly different than I do.

[upper sun]

while electrostaff and voidstrike can use the same build but voidstrike benefits more from another

[merry fern]

I think I'm going to try out a voidblast staff build

[upper sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9df43ae9-87a4-47ad-bc5f-cafa7e2d7e3a/trauma-7

this is what i use for voidblast

[strong gulch]

havoc tho

[upper sun]

oh

i mean you can but i wouldnt, and couldnt

btw isnt havoc disabled until the update?

[strong gulch]

Here is rending flurry.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dc05254-3159-4d82-ab1b-f7405391914e/havoc-40-bubble-rending-flurry-voidblast-trauma
I use this for when there is a purg/ inferno user on the team.

If I was lone psyker, the tree by itself is what I'd take with the curios and melee being the same as the flurry rending one. Staff would be flak + crit chance with blazing spirit + warp nexus. The tree difference is taking wildfire over warp battery.

[marble crater]

Havoc has alway been disabled

[strong gulch]

no clue

[merry fern]

Oh thank you!

[marble crater]

Clad is so lucky there is still no lights out mission

[strong gulch]

now I want to know how many I need.

40 or something

Sitting unchanged for the better part of a year.

17

[marble crater]

Slacking

[strong gulch]

[merry fern]

Havoc is up it would seem. Or at least it's letting me search for a party.

[strong gulch]

I just stopped lmao

[prime elk]

man i'm on like 11 lol

so annoying to grind

[strong gulch]

Sill derank. If we've cleared it, just let us pick.

[wispy bay]

Just do pub h1-20.

Pub 20-35 are horrible

[strong gulch]

I don't want to click though all of the mess then grind back up.

FS wants to be annoying about havocs.

[marble crater]

You will click and you will like it

[sturdy reef]

wonder what the new pennace rewards will be since surely there are new ones associated with the mortis trials

[marble crater]

Push down 10 enemies after being at max warp charges for 2 minutes

[strong gulch]

thanks

[analog agate]

I invest heavily in being able to spam blasts. Hence tranq over wildfire and battle med instead of warp stealer

[dull osprey]

Not taking battle med should be punishable by playing 3 rounds of power maul ogryn

[verbal thistle]

Battle mend isnt really good if you are used to managing high peril

[dull osprey]

It extends your peril bar

[verbal thistle]

you dont want that

you want high peril fast for talents and blessings

[dull osprey]

Its not managing you can straight up do more

[strong gulch]

I only take BM in havocs

[dull osprey]

Comfy jumping betaeen 60 and 100

And makes ape brain go brr when you keep scrier up over 2 minutes

[analog agate]

As with Potato, I only take BM in havoc. I don’t try and maintain high peril as much as I do in regular. I quell when I can to get to a spammy point to knock down stuff and then at that point I should be at higher peril to hit them again. I care more about survival for my pub teams lol

[dull osprey]

Imo its a bit overblown that ypu need peril for talents and shit

Getting 27vs 32% crit on your staff

Big deal

Thats not gonna wipe you

Unless you go the low warp res purga build

[merry fern]

Just tested this build out in a havoc 2, feels good. Just need to pray to the rng gods to replace my current staff.

[strong gulch]

If in later havocs peril is a lot to manage, try this. #psyker-class message

[dull osprey]

Havoc 2 🥹

[merry fern]

Yup, I'm just a wee baby when it comes to end game stuff.

Just started doing the end game content last night.

[dull osprey]

The 4 nation lived in harmony

Then emprah light 2 attacked

[marble crater]

I just had two maelstrom attempts, in one everyone except me had at least one wound curio, in the other they didn't. Guess which I won?

[ornate hamlet]

neither

[marble crater]

I did win one

The only casualty in that one was the psyker getting thrown into several bursters by a mutie

[young cliff]

question: what kind of build would benefit from using illisi over Deimos or obscurus?

[merry fern]

I think I'm probably just going to grind out the auelric and normal quickplays, to stockpile a bunch of mats incase the rng gods actually like me and give me a new staff.

[indigo creek]

gaze

[marble crater]

EK and Voidstrike builds

[indigo creek]

But honestly deimos is better in everyway provided you know the move set

[marble crater]

Horde clear ranged weapon? Deimos
Single target ranged weapon? Illisi

[indigo creek]

You sure you didn't get them flipped?

pretty sure illisi is the horde clear one

[jovial juniper]

Yeah so if your ranged is single target

You complement with illisi

[indigo creek]

ah you mean melee for horde clear plus a ranged weapon

english be like

[young cliff]

So for stuff like EK staff or revolver illisi is better?

[young cliff]

Wait, is the Illisi so outclassed?

[marble crater]

They are both great at what they do

[jovial juniper]

Not quite outclassed

Illisi won't hit hard against single target but the special allows to distribute damage more evenly across the targets

But because of Uncanny and Slaughterer it'll get to a point where it can kill almost everything

[marble crater]

With illisi you can slice muties in half, sometimes

[jovial juniper]

Also illisi is able to spam special easily if you need peril for quelling into toughness

Now Deimos

Imagine a Dueling Sword

[marble crater]

I want to stroke my deimos

[rich spindle]

penis sword

[jovial juniper]

Turn it down a notch on the single target

And give it a little bump on horde clear

That's Deimos

[marble crater]

And turn it down a lot on mobility, but add deflector

[jovial juniper]

Now add Uncanny and Slaughterer to it

[marble crater]

No room for 3 blessings

[young cliff]

I keep deflector + uncanny on Deimos and that other combo on obscurus

[whole mica]

any builds for a fresh 30 psyker to try out? want to run the great sword + staff

[marble crater]

There are some builds pinned

[jovial juniper]

Hey as long as you keep uncanny that second blessing can be whatever

Except Blazing Spirit

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771

And Bloodthirsty I guess

[marble crater]

Uncanny Deflector Deimos
Slaughterer Deflector Illisi

[jovial juniper]

That could work
Just wouldn't hit as hard

But hey

As long as it works

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-12950352696137374051

[marble crater]

You can stand out in the open and block gunners, build peril with KD and then shriek

[merry fern]

RNG gods do love me... somewhat lol

Got an upgrade in the regular shot. 80 80 80 60 charge rate, 80 blast.

[marble crater]

What does your current one have?

[merry fern]

63 78 80 79 80

[marble crater]

63 damage? Yeah the new one will work until you get warp resistance as dump stat

[merry fern]

I did get a grey that is 80 60 80 80 80

[merry fern]

I take it I should just lvl that one up?

[marble crater]

For EK, Inferno and VoidBLAST you want 60 warp resistance rest 80
VoidSTRIKE 60 blast radius rest 80

Melee also 60 warp resistance and rest 80

[dusk void]

Uhh, is this normal?

[jovial juniper]

Yup

It was mentioned that Havoc would be offline for a couple days

[ripe obsidian]

I got my Havoc 40 win for the week 11 minutes past the deadline. >.>

[jovial juniper]

Havoc will be back on the 25th

At least that's their plan

[ripe obsidian]

I know. I am just sad I missed the penance progress for 20 weeks of loot

[patent mango]

havoc moment

[raven mountain]

When it comes back, we all get to bask in the shared pain of losing map ranks for any loss of any level!

I sure hope that people aren't toxic about finding teams—it would be a shame to ruin the streak they created when not bothering with a scoreboard.

[remote nacelle]

what staff do people run on high havok?

[verbal thistle]

Surge

[jovial juniper]

Usually the ones with infinite cleave
So voidBLAST and Inferno

[remote nacelle]

do people run toughness curios?

[upper sun]

ye

[remote nacelle]

for psy

[upper sun]

theyre great

i go stam hp toughness

[dull osprey]

Only tufness and stamina gang

[remote nacelle]

is bubble also optimal for high havok?

[dull osprey]

Why is electro the #1 lmb spam staff? Better dmg and peril cost?

[upper sun]

mostly damage

it has a crit damage stat

that stat improves critical chance and critical damage

[remote nacelle]

i need good wizard names for psy

i named my zealot after a far cry villain

[dull osprey]

Name it birmingham orphan

[remote nacelle]

i should have named my orgyn soild snake

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-mgs-snake-naked-snake-big-boss-gif-18339171891752824186

what melee do people run?

[wooden sand]

Big pysker sword

Pysker sword

And dueling sword

[verbal thistle]

Tactical axe

[patent mango]

everyhwere i look i see tac axe....

[fathom adder]

Knoife is always popular

[jovial juniper]

The players yearn for knife but don't want knife

[patent mango]

yeah i'd rather tac axe lmao

[nocturne dust]

I yearn for force knife

[cloud night]

I need to get a tac axe
Something humorous about embedding a hatchet into a skull

Is tac axe far better than the Combaxe?

[mental grail]

I literally just used the GW naming sheets for mine

unless ur going for meme

[cloud night]

Vaas?

[mental grail]

then pick whatever

[remote nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-5-far-cry-john-seed-gif-3539540562005792049

[cloud night]

Good ol johnny seed

Edens gate did nothing wrong

[mental grail]

I use sisters of silence for the girls and custodes for the boys

[jovial juniper]

Nope

Lol

Combat Axe>>>>>

(mainly because Brutal Momentum is op)

[mental grail]

Blood Angels for fun

[cloud night]

Gotcha
I just want a break from knife and ds

[jovial juniper]

When your one shot single target weapon one shots 4 targets at once

[nocturne dust]

When your ranged weapon has limited range, takes ten banillion hits to kill single targets, and is still meta

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[cloud night]

The tec 9 autopistol?

[nocturne dust]

No, Inferno

[cloud night]

Oh lmao

[brazen rampart]

It takes like 3 seconds for you to stack enough soulblaze to disregard a target.

That rager you just flamed for 3 seconds is dead, no matter if you keep cooking him or not.

[cloud night]

Friendship with inferno ended
New friendship is now with fire trauma

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but it takes 9 fenillion hits to kill single targets (with direct damage)

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1316462732999921735/elmopsyker.gif

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/on-god-dog-gif-23958656

I LOVE it when my max charge warp slice on the fgs disappears because a single poxwalker hit me

https://tenor.com/view/cat-red-red-cat-evil-cat-normal-cat-gif-7123425318368299957

[broken carbon]

combat axes, namely rashad, are just braindead, rashad is just M1 except heavies for carapace and unyielding (and PA for rager stagger)

tac axes are much more mobile, but are extremely crit and weakspot focused, so they function best with a high crit chance

they suffer for damage against carapace and unyielding

due to just low ADMs

but they have a force stagger on special, and their heavies have enough stagger to break a rager combo

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-that-feel-that-thel-thats-true-thats-true-thel-feel-that-thats-true-thel-gif-17672214644802219577

[broken carbon]

they also have a higher innate crit chance

+7.5%

so 12.5% innate crit total

though the mk2 on i think L3 has an extra +5% crit chance

which is odd

but shrug !

[verbal thistle]

the other dog is gonna eat that right up

Taxe is better because the mastery skin looks like a flamingo

[cloud night]

Gotcha

Boutta start pulling for axes now bc fuck it, why not

Nothing better to do

[nocturne dust]

Rashad goes bbbbbbrrrrrrrrr

[cloud night]

Mobility being the end all be all dump stat I take it?

Or is penetration not that important?

[cloud night]

Got one of those, its nice

[verbal thistle]

mob

[nocturne dust]

Warp Res, actually

If your weapon has Warp Res, dump it.

If it doesn't, dump mobility/defense/collateral generally.

The two exceptions are Voidstrike, which dumps blast radius, and Dueling Sword, which dumps cleave

[drifting steeple]

Hey deadvoid

[nocturne dust]

aloha

[drifting steeple]

What kind of build would you make for each staff?

Like blitz combat ability keystone etc etc

[nocturne dust]

Most staves prefer something like this for Havoc

Voidstrike can be the exception

You would make some minor modifications for each staff, especially Inferno with creeping flames Shriek which is the only time a staff does not want Empyric Resolve

[cloud night]

Warp Res is a no brainer tbh

[nocturne dust]

Warp Res is a dump because it scales terribly and does nothing, the only stat being worse is Voidstrike's blast radius which only scales the end explosion (which does nothing, because Voidstrike is all ball cleave damage)

[drifting steeple]

Currently I have inferno staff in my soulblaze build

Not sure where to fit ek thought

[nocturne dust]

EK really wants Creeping Flames Shriek

[drifting steeple]

Soulblaze build 2 electric boogaloo

[nocturne dust]

EK's main thing is abusing psykinetics and perilous combustion, but it's the most finicky of staves. It's the strongest in auric, but it needs a precise build or it's too slow and doesn't hit breakpoints

Specifically, you need perfect timing and the right perks, flak and either unyielding or maniac (I prefer unyielding)

[drifting steeple]

What do you think of that soulblaze node on the right outer side of the tree?

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker is a never-take

[drifting steeple]

Gotcha

Probably better methods to gain toughness

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't refresh when active, is too far from the rest of the soulblaze nodes for soulblaze builds, and doesn't activate properly when enemies die from non-soulblaze sources while affected by soulblaze (the psykhanium has it work differently from in-game, lol)

[drifting steeple]

I'll be sure to fix my build when I get home with this revelation

[nocturne dust]

It's also only 5% crit and toughness, both of which you can get vastly more easily in other spots

[drifting steeple]

Did you say that empyric is good for inferno?

[nocturne dust]

Empyric Resolve is always good except when running Inferno with Creeping Flames Shriek, imo

for staves

ER is not for gunker, lol

Note that there's another Empyric, Empyric Shock, which is for staff lmb builds

[drifting steeple]

Maybe you should make a psyker from a meta perspective video

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I was making an Inferno guide

[cloud night]

Only staff I could see being reasonably done for lmb spam is voidstrike

Who the hell uses the lighning staff or vb staff without rmb? Lmao

[nocturne dust]

Definitely haven't been sitting on it for half a year for no reason

[drifting steeple]

Too short. Needs to be two hours long

[nocturne dust]

EK is actually the lmb spam staff

[verbal thistle]

left click spam EK is the highest dps in the game

[nocturne dust]

Both for a hybrid lmb/rmb and pure lmb

[drifting steeple]

Now I'm wishing I had more load outs

[nocturne dust]

*of the lmb spams

[cloud night]

Is that so? Noted

[verbal thistle]

because of 1 shrimple thing

[nocturne dust]

There's a mod for that

[verbal thistle]

quell cancel

which they are removing

thank god

[nocturne dust]

Even with quell cancel, it's not the highest DPS. Its single target-ness holds it back by a lot.

[drifting steeple]

What do you guys think are the top weapons I should get for max mastery on psyker

[verbal thistle]

What would compete against it?

[nocturne dust]

If you want max meta, trauma and dueling sword

[cloud night]

I could never get the pattern down for QC'ing

I could hit the rhyhm for it for a bit then fuck.it up one click later

[nocturne dust]

Literally any of the staves RMB builds that aren't Voidstrike, because all those builds abuse infinite cleave

[drifting steeple]

It's more me asking what weapons I should do first and what I should do last

[nocturne dust]

FGS is also probably in the running due to its infinite cleave slice

[drifting steeple]

Fgs my beloved

[nocturne dust]

Infinite cleave good in horde game, shocking

[cloud night]

Love my FGS
Handles better than the RB

[verbal thistle]

Have you seen or used quell cancel EK with a proper build?

macro ornot

[nocturne dust]

That's entirely up to you. That's mostly preference and what you want to play.

[nocturne dust]

yes

without macro it's actually pretty eh

Like, it's not bad

but it's worse than even Voidstrike ballspam

[verbal thistle]

the quell cancel is what makes it the best dps

[nocturne dust]

Yeh

It makes it better

It does not make it best. The lack of cleave really does hold it back.

That should become readily apparent if you try to take it into H40 alongside a decent trauma/inferno player.

[verbal thistle]

friend and I did havoc 40 day 2 of release with Ek quell cancel

[brazen rampart]

Ek does not have infinite cleave.

[verbal thistle]

its game breaking

[nocturne dust]

Even in auric, EK not needing aiming and spitting out creeping flames everywhere does work that single target lmb spam cannot best (as long as your spawns aren't freaking out)

[nocturne dust]

shriek/perilous combustion

it's the build that has infinite cleave

not the staff

[brazen rampart]

You said any staff rmb build that aren't voidstrike.

[nocturne dust]

yes

EK RMB builds have infinite cleave due to PC and Shriek

It's the build

Not the staff

[nocturne dust]

I mean, maybe a video would help? Maybe I'm just not aware of the max quell cancel speed? The speed I'm aware of does not cut it.

[verbal thistle]

might have a clip somewhere, but probably not. @weary crane I think has videos abusing macro quell cancel

[nocturne dust]

[Insert EK asking "What is my purpose?" "You feed PC and Psykinetics" "Oh my god"]

[verbal thistle]

I think he did a havoc 40 4 macro ek

copuld be wrong

[nocturne dust]

I've seen a havoc 40 smiteker run

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[verbal thistle]

4 man smite only?

[nocturne dust]

Yep

Terrible times

[verbal thistle]

who was it?

[brazen rampart]

That sounds hilarious.

[clear heath]

I don't wanna imagine the monstrosity fights

[nocturne dust]

It was someone here, I forget who, I might be able to find it

[verbal thistle]

@formal harness Did you do the smite only run?

while I was sleeping

[nocturne dust]

Hm, maybe I'm mistaken and it was auric? I can't find it

[cloud night]

Alr
So, preferred blessings for the taxe?

Saw somebody constantly saying brut momentum earlier

Anything else?

[verbal thistle]

BM HT

[nocturne dust]

Isn't BM replaceable on some mks?

[verbal thistle]

mark 5 (?) the middle number takes something else

but that axe is my least used

I use 7

[verbal thistle]

oooh wait

I think I know them

it was the Nanachi pfp

forgot name

@patent mango ?

I also did a CIVI smite only run awhile ago

[cloud night]

I like the feeling of 2 but 7 feels better

For the taxe

5 feels eh

[verbal thistle]

its preference between 2 and 7, and something made 5 alot worse

I forgot what though

[restive slate]

I had someone suggest to me not to use BM with taxe, though I think for crit zealot build

[verbal thistle]

you can change it for shred, which will help its ADM since crits are bascially its only armor damage

a little horde clear for more armor damage

depends on how you feel

its not useful for high havoc

(BM)

[patent jacinth]

No sweep heavies

So no PA->heavy loop

[verbal thistle]

poop

[patent jacinth]

Can’t meet BM breakpoints

[patent jacinth]

Autowrong conspires against me my every breath

[still valve]

are you sure?

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-gif-2092851540894037985

[patent jacinth]

The rot consumes

[dense wolf]

what living on nox alpha does to you

[nocturne dust]

I AM READYYYYY

[dense wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/regalt-raiden-rayden-mortal-kombat-lightning-gif-21284912

how it feels to be smite psyker

[patent jacinth]

That’s EK

Smite is like static

[dense wolf]

ah

ahh

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-cat-meme-gagged-gag-gif-5110955762935200988

[cloud night]

Reminder that Magnus did nothing wrong

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confusion-derp-adorable-fluffy-gif-22184315

Actual Feeling of Smite Play

[proper osprey]

My cat looked like that one day

Zonked

[cloud night]

Watching 3 morons struggle with a fucking hound

[buoyant maple]

Magnus did a lot of things very wrong

But he prob didn’t deserve what he got

[dense wolf]

kit

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/JHqCC_-rdUM

[cloud night]

Kek

[cloud night]

Nah he did nothing wrong

[ornate hamlet]

I mean he kinda glued big e to the throne for majority of the heresy

[cloud night]

Top 10 pranks gone wrong

Im literally shitposting when I say he did nothing wrong

I know magnus was a dumb fuck

[ornate hamlet]

Big e certainly could have guided him better other than just saying don't do that

[cloud night]

True

[ornate hamlet]

Dysfunctional family things eh

[cloud night]

Yes

[fathom adder]

I think it's easier to just call Black Library a bunch of hacks

[nocturne dust]

It is definitely Imperium-style to not explain things tho

[ornate hamlet]

I'm confused to the black library reference

[fallow token]

sg+bb?

[nocturne dust]

No, wall

Wall's one use, Kinetic Resonance

[fallow token]

wait

warp charges

ok

[nocturne dust]

yes, it's why no EP

[fallow token]

do i need to max 6 charges or base will do?

[nocturne dust]

I do not know. I would assume 4 charges is fine, and Warp Battery is potentially detrimental

[strong gulch]

I wanted use single point wall to confuse others by making them think the wall would stop specials but it didn't.

Worked like a charm. ask @marble crater

[strong gulch]

I would think the same as this.

[nocturne dust]

Symmetric Perfection moment

[fallow token]

u bring up wall the charges will gone no?

[strong gulch]

They will.

correct

outside of that penance, KR + double wall is a thing

[fallow token]

oh

i thought u are talking about penance

ok i will use that for private penance

[nocturne dust]

yes, but if you have 4 elites you are back to max

Is a tradeoff

[strong gulch]

Ye. Maybe in fire reborn and purg/ inferno to help with WC uptime. BB slots easily into that anyways.

[fallow token]

and i hate this shet

[strong gulch]

precharge

[fallow token]

i think hunting ground modifier would be perfect

[drifting steeple]

4 charges is okay

this is how i did warp battery

just dont select the 6 charge keystone

[strong gulch]

Do you know specifically for Power Up tho?

It makes sense to assume, but this is FS.

Kinda all we have is assuming sometimes. 😭

[drifting steeple]

i did the same thing with power up i think

as long as you dont select the node that makes it so you have 6 max stacks for warp charges i think you should be okay?

[fathom adder]

Black Library, the company that churns out 40k and Horus Heresy novels, employs a lot of hack writers

[cloud night]

Arent those the fuckers who changed wraithbone to some sort of mineral?

[ornate hamlet]

Oh got ya

[fathom adder]

I don't know, I mostly stopped reading it 10+ years ago

[cloud night]

Ah

All I remember is that wraithbone got changed to something diff and it had the aeldari crowd going apeshit

[fathom adder]

It annoyed the shit out of me to be reading series that started before 8th edition and continued afterwards, and having characters switch from using e.g. Imperial Guard and Storm Troopers to suddenly start using the new (copyrightable!) terms like Astra Militarum and Tempestus Scions.

"Then Commissar Gaunt turned to look directly into the camera and said: available at fine hobby stores everywhere!"

[fallow token]

why this doesnt count wtf

[strong gulch]

zealot got the kill

[fallow token]

i killed the dog that flies

maybe i cut the vid and show

the dog that was killed by zealot is another one

[fathom adder]

Fatsharked

[strong gulch]

IDK. It looks like you should have got it, but it also looks like the last kill was zealot's and a falling dog out of the air is pretty dang recent.

I see you did kill a dog before zealot did tho.

You kill is fading tho. If they happened at the same time, both kills should be up.

[fallow token]

oh

too long

but whatever

0:02

[strong gulch]

Maybe the hounds from the packs don't count??

[fallow token]

😭

[strong gulch]

That's the only thing I can think of.

Otherwise you should have gotten it.

[fallow token]

no way i gotta play normally and and bb that dog

[verbal thistle]

They don't

Pox hounds are different from chaos hounds

Pox being less hp horde ones

[strong gulch]

Mystery solved.

[verbal thistle]

They don't count towards penance

Also I think it's the same for the wave of mutants, but I haven't tested that

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

It's too much for FS to list what counts. 😭

[fallow token]

[drifting steeple]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

reading this guide for an idea of dump stats for different weaps

is the crit bonus for dump stat true?

[deft stump]

Warp res for all. Lul.

[plucky flax]

No xd

[drifting steeple]

it says on this too that the dump stat for inferno is quell speed

[plucky flax]

If you don't like having around 4% crit chance then sure

[drifting steeple]

also whats the dump stat for ds?

[verbal thistle]

Mobility is safely dumped, cleave target for mk4

[drifting steeple]

i am reading arguments for both mobility and cleave and its confusing

[plucky flax]

I still dump mobility cos even 4 extra damage help

When all bonus are accounted for it might be 30

[deft stump]

Dump either mobility or cleave damage.

[verbal thistle]

People also dump cleave when they change the weapon mark

Since mk5 has defence is cleave's spot

And def is the better dump

[plucky flax]

Dump damage and finesse cos ds4 already too op

[deft stump]

Diff is like 5 secondary damage or slightly longer/faster sprint.

[drifting steeple]

is mobility the dump stat for most melee weapons, then?

[plucky flax]

Ye

[deft stump]

Or def.

[verbal thistle]

Mobility is easily dumped because on every weapon it won't change dps

The difference between 60-80 mob is so minimal you probably won't be able to tell as well

Some weapons have wacky dumps that only people that main the weapon know

[brazen rampart]

If a melee choice doesnt dump mobility, then it dumps defences or warp resistance, except in the very specific circumstance of lacerate uncanny knives, which dump pen.

[nocturne dust]

Warp Res dumped first, then mob/def/collat

[deft stump]

Or the cleave targets for powersword.

[nocturne dust]

Dueling Sword dumps cleave

[brazen rampart]

Or yeah cleave targets on psword.

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike dumps Blast Radius

[brazen rampart]

No.

[verbal thistle]

Or plasma dump thermal and charge

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[brazen rampart]

Ds only dumps cleave if you swap to ds5.

[nocturne dust]

You do not need 5 damage on poxwalkers

[brazen rampart]

Because then it becomes defences.

[nocturne dust]

Cleave on dueling sword is super tiny amounts of damage, which is why it is dump

[plucky flax]

Me with a perfect plasma

[nocturne dust]

it changes 0 breakpoints

[brazen rampart]

Do you understand how to drag your heavies?

[nocturne dust]

Yes. And?

[brazen rampart]

Ds poke heavies and special have lingering hitboxes.

You can definitely kill multiple things with one poke.

[nocturne dust]

Sure.

Cleave damage, the stat, does nothing for that.

[dense wolf]

[brazen rampart]

It literally does but ok.

[nocturne dust]

Technically, yes, practically, no

[brazen rampart]

Anyway, melee choices dump warp res/def/mob in that order.

Ranged choices dump warp res (except voidstrike)/collateral/mob in that order.

[strong gulch]

That has been contentious forever. Dumping crit bonus on EK is like losing a guaranteed 5% crit bonus. We also have access to ER in the talent tree now. I believe in dumping WR instead of crit bonus.

Dump WR on all force weapons except voidSTRIKE. Voidstrike dumps blast radius. WR dump includes force melee.

[deft stump]

I would argue for bolter for mobility over collateral. But eh, is just saving a shot to open up.

[plucky flax]

If you're not writing steamguide im not listening to your opinion

[nocturne dust]

the guide is... interesting sometimes

It's definitely problematic when it comes to Inferno staff

It's also not really constantly updated. Some of the information in it feels kinda outdated, especially the opinion parts.

[deft stump]

Okay. You don't write guides either so your opinions are invalid as well.

[nocturne dust]

I write guides

[dense wolf]

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