#psyker-class
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Is why I never combust 
best method to prevent going boom boom is vent
even if you are in the process of blowing up, you vent, you good
Among us?
Shriek will save you from exploding even during the animation
I keep forgetting that when you let go of the trauma blast, you gain a spike in peril
when I die, I die to that last spike
Me unnecessarily risking my life by trying to end the blast at 97% peril
nah you can't actually die from that small spike, just tested it, scared me there
been spamming trauma lately, very goated
You can
Just get to 100% peril first
I have 100% died from it
well if you click at 100% you gone no matter what staff
so hang on, if I let go of the attack at 99%, I'll survive?
Force push is the only thing I know of that will murder you if you aren't at 100% and the peril it generates gets you over 100% (but also it generates very little so that's pretty hard to do)

Yes, but your peril number is actually a false number
The peril gauge mod can fix that
that means it WAS my high ping that caused me to die last night
because I was at 98% or something when I let go of the attack, at least so I thought
but without the mod, the number you're actually at is like a bit ahead of what is shown or something iirc
or just the peril number not showing you your true peril 
hmmm
well I downloaded the mod
hopefully that will help me reduce the frequency of self booms
the greediest thing to do is greeding peril with purge, if you charge it up and hit 99% and release it, you'll still be safe during the flamming phase despite all the perils generated there
but if you start to flame at 100%, you goofed
so I was looking at the pins, and one of the builds uses Smite with Warp Charges instead of EP
in that case, Smite just becomes the occasional button press to control hordes?
or blow up bursters?
The pins are weird
but yes, smite would be a panic/control tool for big mixed groups. You would pull it out very temporarily just to knock things over
am i cooked
i really like brain burst with ep
The occasional oh shit button for 1 point in smite. More DSP is BB with KF.
heh, that only works in lower diff where most specials/elites still die to 1 bb
i know
if you playing in lower diff it's pretty nice
i know....
I mean, I do too, it's just... that should be the way BB is without EP 
the only time I find use for manual BB is to kill off snipers in extremely shit nooks and crannies where my team is having a hard time aiming
IDK why that post was pinned tho? Like, there's no infero there.
or if we're running between packs
BB is like Devil's Claw to me. Really really neat, and makes my brain go
but really really not worth running if you want to be as effective as you can
naked BB's charge time is horrible, but if it's buffed, especially by its upper upgrade, it's very good
For the level of investment required, it's not good
bb buff when
never ๐
BB critical peril threshold 97% is bizarrely modified by your peril resistance
Blazeaway on inferno carrying EP BB hard. lmao
A decent team leaves little room for BB, so just spray fire
A revolver leaves little room for BB 
even at 40, BB remains psyker's best long range option, especially when it's buffed up
with ER it's 98.2% or something
wack
No?
consider the meta is trauma and purge, that's pretty much what people almost always runs
I literally prefer any other tool for all but the most extreme of long range engagements
I will lmb with trauma over using BB
lmb trauma is slow and you miss at long range
lmb trauma is faster than BB even if you miss half your shots 
I would know since I miss half my shots
that is absolutely not true lol
Absolutely is
nuh uh
Your only threat at long range is like a sniper
exactly, you peak a sniper, lock on bb, and run back to cover, it's already dead
It's not like you're trying to murder a crusher with lmb spam, lol
you try to lmb you gotta stand there in the open taking sniper shots
Maybe if you run EP or KR
but also
that's a waste of points
the only waste of points is if you route through smite ๐คฎ
Dodge? Lol
Unlucky for Some

and you miss even more shots when you dodge ๐
bb is life, embrace it ๐
I would if it was remotely good
it is, SUUUPER good
k, I expect to see your BB-only 4-psyker run of H40 tomorrow
Oh fer the... I came here to avoid the nightmare in general and gets dropped into WW something.
I'll run 40 with you right now let's go
the amount of 40s I've cleared with bb, pretty much every single one
except it is
It's there because something has to cover long range in the kit and it happens to be above psykinetics, not because it's good at it
LOL, that's like saying it's good just because it is good
Again, I literally never pull BB out if I'm not messing around or using Inferno
I would rather staff lmb, I would rather assail, I would rather revolver, I would rather so many other things
I've spammed lmb, WITH QUELLING CANCELLING MACRO, and I've used bb, and I'm telling you, bb is still better
bolt pistol, recon, laspistol
in 40

You're telling me BB needing to trigger a couple times on a single sniper is somehow better than lmb spam? Cuz that's a joke of a statement
it's not for the green ones
naked sniper I'm almost sure it's 1 bb
the biggest down side of lmb is the travel time, if shit are moving, even in slow strife, which a lot of times they are, you miss like crazy
and of course you gotta stand in the open to spam, which is just suicidal in 40
what difficulty is when the weaker stuff starts lagging behind?
sure, but a naked sniper also dies to lmb spam very quickly still so I don't see your point about spamming 
Depends on your skill level
You can use the weakest stuff at the highest difficulties.
For most of us mortals tho, I would say auric/havoc 30 is where you really start to feel the differences
If you don't have bubble you're going to have a terrible time trying to slowly BB every little thing out of range, lmao
Damn/Mael usually. Heresy is still okay.
Auric heresy is about normal dam difficulty, I would say
even with bubble a lot of times it's not going to be up, or goes down very fast, just give it bb with that cd buff a try, you won't regret it I promise
or I can just not waste time on BB and still have the CD buff anyway 
ig i have to aim to graduate to dueling sword
Like, I have given it a try, I think it's incredibly foolish to think I haven't
I mean the cd buff for BB when you use shield/vent
Ah. Done that too.
There's a reason I don't use it. 
I think the only node I literally have never tried is Unlucky for Some because... c'mon, it's Unlucky for Some.
would the psyker tanner lindberg video be a good idea for me to learn whats meta?
Ryken
based
Nu. Hell, I probably have saner builds in the morning.
As far as Darktide youtubers go, I don't really know them so I can't say much. I do know Tanner is a bad source tho 
its more me just curious, ill probably never get to havoc 40 but i dont really know whats meta and whats not
Fair
Havoc meta is different tho
to Auric/lower meta
because Havoc has special modifiers that really devastate the balance of the game
I mean, the meta Havoc builds aren't bad in Auric, certainly, but they're not as ridiculously OP as they are in Havoc.
yeah i know, im just using havoc as a stand in for the tippy top meta
Eh, can be overkill for aurics though.
its basically me curious to know what people bring into these high level missions
For Psyker, the meta for auric is a soulblaze EK build and the meta for havoc is Blast staff/Inferno
yes
Naw, force sword in Havoc.
Well, for blast/inferno
do you think they should nerf dueling sword or buff everything else
EK wants a horde clearer, so FGS/Illisi force sword is the normal pick
best psyker i know runs gs/recon
That's a typical gunker build
buff everything else obvi
mostly for FGS tho, recon is whatever and I would actually recommend switching it out for EK since ammo
Nerf dueling sword
i hope they buff it
The problem with buffing everything else is then you have to buff everything else
which is a ton of work that Fatshark is clearly not capable of given their update release schedule 
nerfing it doesnt solve the problem that some weapons are just straight up unusable
i was watching mister e's video on it and someone did a cost-benefit analysis for dueling sword loool
Sure, but you don't push everything up just because there are outliers
You bring the outliers towards the center
well can we start with the buffs then ?
some ppl like jt
I did a couple taxe psyker runs today actually
felt harder than my usual illisi gunker runs
epic cole i think
How to find that out, mention Agile. The fans will rag on you.
there ls a couple zealot chat regulars pimpin the thing
Like what happened with Agile DS4, but then that became somewhat meta for havoc.
I'm not super well-versed in anything but Psyker staves, lol
agile somehow both the worst and most broken blessing
wonder if theyll ever give you sparkies a new staff
I hope so
are the taxe fans bringing it into auric mael or havoc 40?
BEAM STAFF
what staff would you want ?
GIVE ME BEAM STAFF NOW!
i mean we have that
Yes, I mean, the fanboys bring their objects of affection wherever
Both. Like CAxe fans.
surge macro lol but theyre nuking it
and is that a bad thing?
yea
not really
hm
ppl seethed about it so hard theyre adding some lame internal cd
LMB spam is decent without the macro anyway
It gets rid of an unfun annoyance, but we hate the nerf to quel cancel to more fair uses.
yea but its a pain to quell cancel if you only have 5 fingers
๐ฐ They have been summoned
Nobody who uses it regularly does so without a macro
i basically love all the weapons in this game
all it took to quell cancel lmb is binding lmb to both quell and shoot and spam clicking
you literally just click
And it ruins the game for 3 others.
Well, I guess you don't mind AFKing in aurics or normal damns.
how does the macro work anyway
lmb -> R -> lmb -> R
repeat ad infinitum
it has a timing thing to it, which is why the macro, but it really is just 2 button spam
the new patch is gonna break the macro isn't it
balls are not little elongated lines
I was rather fond of the purge primary spam
don't ew me, WOOOSHWOOSHWOOH
best spam for power supply off
ew
you can walk through horde like you had a can of bug spray
and they part their way like magic
haha rager staggered haha
0 damage for flashlight.
woshwoshwosh
nooo the macro spam does a shit ton of dmg actually
devs obviously didn't account for this atrocity
I heard purga.
i want to be able to flash my flashlight to stagger enemies
better yet, unlock their latent epilepsy
but it'll be gone, like tears in the rain, in 2 days ๐ญ
Prenerf DBD flashlight.
2042 is good but the original is superior
^man of taste right there
RMB staring from a distance
I have no idea what you're talking about
hello guys. i wanna ask how u feel about psyker. i think its weak in general. only 2 good things is Telekine Shield bubble and Smite. if im making build outside of this 2 things it sucks. i feel like compared to zealot psyker is outclassed in every aspect
Psyker outclasses everyone in damage
but if you're levelling, psyker sucks (aside from assail)
Really good movie that inspired the cyberpunk genre
Psyker scales pretty hard with levels, their build comes together only once you're high up if not maxed out
what difficulty you planning to play the psyker on
Bladerunner by ridley scott
What is dmg build for psyker
Any of the typical ones. Gunker, Fire Trauma, Inferno, Soulblaze EK, Scrier's Voidstrike, etc. etc.
What talants for dmg psyker
Psyker only has dmg builds, really
I play bubble smiter thanks
if you are playing on malice, just get assail,fgs,and vrak, you can solo the map
Perilous Combustion, Creeping Flames, Psykinetics Aura
shriek at... 85%? peril, apply soulblaze to everything in front of you, watch it all burn
typical psyker stuff
Im note sure what its called
how many bars
Havoc?
Yes
oh havoc, 20
Typical Psyker Havoc is bubble with Inferno/Voidblast staff
In order of diff, Sedition, Uprising, Malice, Heresy or Damnation.
Oh, havoc. Diff builds and playstyle mostly.
I will share my build in moment
at 20 mob density is should already such that purge/VB comes into play
isn't 20 still heresy?
you will have to use those 2, things like EK is not going to cut it anymore
uh, no
can't remember
at 20 you definitely can still use EK
I'd say 30 is where you start to feel the real difference
Unless pus hardened.
Even with.
Pus Hardened isn't that bad at lower levels
also has a lower chance of spawning too
but honestly just start using those 2 meta weapons for practice
You never saw hav 1 where half the mobs are green.
Random chance is random 
Was doing penances so stare.
Hmm its long time
Becoming orange is actually fairly quick
Can i share link to picture
I believe so
I will be banned for link?
no
Yeah, I kinda feel the need to bring the fgs with EK because if I don't, I have no way to solve being stuck in a horde myself.
Yeah that's a very... strange build
link him a meta, fix it quickly, I feel sick
So my idea was to use Smite till full overload, and when use sworg till passive for +20%dmg is active while peril overload
Holy wow. That's. Such a mix of things I always do, things I see randoms do, and things you probably shouldn't do.
Idn i make it miself but im stuck in havoc 20
I feel like i need better build
So if you're doing bubble, you really want warp charges for faster cooldowns. It feels terrible without (or completely reliant on psykinetic aura)
Combine it with Voidblast (dump warp res)
I've seen a few people recently go that center cluster at the top, and I just don't get it.
Although, really, that build essentially fits every staff with just a few minor adjustments per staff
except Voidstrike
Missing out on speed and toughness on crit and warp damage on crit. And that's just the right side.
Why +10% ult cd insted of +7.5% dmg for elites?
Warp Expenditure is truly awful
Because it's better
+elite damage is... not really useful?
I mean it helps technically, but rarely does it do anything for your breakpoints
If you have scoreboard, you'll see that you already dumpster elites.
True
and if you have to use the same number of attacks to kill a thing, nothing has changed
Like, often double the amount of anyone else, unless there's a plasma vet.
The name is red now 
it would be cooler if it also affected specials and monsters, but even then it's still not that good
of the 3 auras, +elite is the worst by quite a bit
10% cd is a couple seconds off everyone's ability. More bubble, more chorus, more voc, moreโฆ whatever Ogryn does.
So why u have brain rupture insted og Smite. Smite is so good for team imho
Not to mention any time you shave off with psykinetic.
Smite bad 
Trauma staff is smite
VB is better than smite ๐
Trauma staff/Voidblast staff can stagger everything
If you smite, you aren't killing. And you really need to be killing
What is vb
You never pull out your blitz anyway
Voidblast
voidblast
AKA trauma
Kinetic flayer is free damage. And if you kill an elite, you set enemies on more fire.
And like they're saying vb is better than smite. But even inferno staff does alright cc to enemies that aren't ogryn.
Yeah, smite's issue is it stops you from doing literally anything else
don't use the flayer thing on purge though, you gonna troll yourself on burster one of those days
Totally worth. Every time.
Smite isn't bad, but it's not meta (and is boring)
Coward, use it on purge
Do use it on purge

a lot of adrenline addicts in chat smh
LMBing bursters away is dumb anyway, spam push like the rest of rejects
Just try not to puff at busters and push them instead.
Charge away from you or taunt.
(I also have the cooldown next to my cursor, so I know when it's up.)
Unless you get a gunlugger in H40, then uhhh... GL.
I do love how fast a gunlugger messes up monsters though.
Had a ton of fun in that one, oops all monsters, event
I use to laugh at gunluggers too but that boss dmg does clutch a lot
It's like a stealth THammer build that can actual deal with horde sometimes.
in 40 you only ever pull your gun out for bosses, or emergency
Or less.
Need a weapon spec vet with survivalist and who doesn't crutch their gun to feed the glugger
Me dealing with the horde by spamming heavies on Crucis:

But everyone else also needs ammo. Well, not me, I forget my flamer exists half the time.
well in 2 days ogryns will be kings and we can't laugh at the fatties anymore ๐
Why dont u pick this talent. It have +10% attac speed
You are staffker
use staff
Staff is meta
Attack speed is whatever
cuz it's melee
If you have scoreboard, look at how much melee you actually do.
So staff > sword ?
Unless you run meleeker.
Melee has uses tho
In the difficulties you're pushing, yes.
Hm i will think about it
like you use Voidblast with dueling sword, and dueling sword is for bosses/mutants
it's a wizard, what is it do you think this class specializes normally smh
Like, my inferno staff build will do like 500k range, 500k fire, and like 30-50k melee.
BATTLE WIZARD WITH CRAZY AC.
Meleeker is real and like the 3rd best build for psyker in Havoc solely because FGS has infinite cleave
I do take that attack speed on other builds that are super fun. But you were saying that your builds felt lacking and wanted a Meta one.
That's Meta.
U guys really know class psyker
Well yeah
(though I tweak a few things myself. I like having the whole warp charge tree)
I have thousands of hours in the game and all of them on psyker
Don't ask me about Vet ๐ฐ
Them, yes. Me? I know meta but I rather just durp around.
It was mt least favorid class. I tryid it last and its my favorit one
Hello guys, i didnt play like 6month whats now " meta " with psyker? Like also the trauma staff and bubble its still good playable?
Is havoc meta.
Yeah. That's the starter Meta build.
Trauma/bubble is meta, lol
I still prefer fire because fire.
nothing ever changes /j
But fire bubble works too
Fire Trauma: exists
Good to know ^^, idk maybe it changes in 6 month ๐
unlikely to change, infinite cleave vs higher density is just a math thing
Yeah! I use it on my scrier's knife build with true aim. Will always set fire when crits are forced. And then I get to take that stupid melee talent for more melee crits!
Fire Trauma
Scrier's

It's a knife build with a built in response to bulwarks.
If it is a bulwark. Vb. If I have true aim, vb. Everything else, knife.
82% crit chance EE with all the movement speed on a knife.
Very literally on a knife's edge. You're either fully murdering everything or you fucked up and are dead. Not really any in between.
I have taken it into mid havocs, but wouldn't into high. Not enough cleave.
I run a very cursed Psyker build consisting of Inferno staff, Blaze GS, Smite and Scrier's
I basically play the game as Sol Badguy
No, you degenerates are just failing at being a space wizard, smh my head
But, but, what do you do into horde? Inferno, fgs, or smite?
They all do the same job.
yes but some do the job better
I honestly prefer when my tools all do different jobs so that it's always clear what to be using.
Excuse me, I use EK/VS and a force sword of some kind.
Inferno is usually for mixed hordes/if I have the time to set up, FGS otherwise, especially if I have beeg cleave
and Smite I only save for aggressive plays to, for ex., stun shooters as I approach them
basically to buy me a bit more time to get into a more favorable position
You are on the Psyker council but we do not grant you the rank of Staffker
So why didnt u pick this talent so u can have 6 stacks instead of 4. And having 2 more +4% dmg stacks
I usually just puff them if I need to stagger. Or sword throw.
You still have to get those stacks
I do take it.
I get those stacks all the time.
Spam your ability harder
how far into havoc did you take this thing or is it just for auric fun
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I refuse to play Havoc lol
ooookay that makes sense all of a sudden now
I will not have time between ults to have 6 stacks?
On cd. Inferno gets 10% per kill and any elites.
I played it a bit to help my girlfriend grind and never again
Warp Battery isn't useless, you do get 6 stacks occasionally, but statistically it's about the same for your damage output on Creeping Flames Shriek as Wildfire
meaning it's one of the first nodes to cut
Sounds fair
I like it because I do get it and because it's damage between bubbles and because it's more bubbles.
I'm the funni vet on it, you mean.
Maybe vb doesn't as much though.
(it's a little less than Wildfire which is why I prefer Wildfire, plus Wildfire is more consistent)
ngl maybe its smth to do with me but I never liked the feel of bubble
nobody LIKES the feel of the bubble
Feel of bubble?
I was a bubble lover before Havoc
I'd run vent everyday if I could
I love it, shush
but like in comparison
Bubble 4 lyfe โค๏ธ
I love the feeling of popping a last second wall into a Mutie's face
Fair. It's my least favorite because the others give me more main character feel. But it feels good to put it up and put my back to a wall.
You can, just run 3 psykers and the other 2 run bubble 
Or even 1 and 1.
I never seen psyker using wall btw
Just don't bring an ogryn too, lol
I used to use it
I had this really stupid 'shield marine' psyker build
it was fun but yeah no I'm never gonna do it again lol
I one go with wall and i get shittalk from friends
Wall is trash. Well, not trash trash, just overshadowed by bubble.
Ones*
Wall needs to be taller too
so much better lmao
Plus wall has a lot of inconveniences
like not being tall enough to protect Ogryns 
Bubble fo team is dope
Like if they have ANY height advantage, it's useless. And if there's an ogryn, it's useless.
the wall had only 1 niche, and that's vs hound/mutie train back in mael
but my shield marine build was very uhh selfish
that was it
where I'd play my Gunker more like a Veteran
taking up advantegous spots and putting down a wall in front of myself
and just sniping everything
But were you really a gunker if you weren't taking scrier?
that was the experiment, a gunker with no Scrier
True philosophy question there.
I also went BB with Enhanced Psykinetics
Prolly alright. Lasgun still builds fire stacks well enough at 22% crit.
maybe thats why it didn't feel right lol
Bubble gunker is real
Though I'd really crutch on assail to conserve ammo.
in the end what changed me is I just started to like the feel of staffs
especially the
And to make actual use of peril. And DD makes sense then.
Honestly, FGS doesn't need scrier's really, so gunker functions perfectly fine without scrier's (because FGS' infinite cleave in Havoc just worksโข๏ธ)
Doubly so if you bring a Bistol lol
the day I discovered that staff can stagger ogryns
and line them up for a force sword special stab
Bleed assail is funny. (not useful)
was a good day
Me when I can't have fire sword but bleed sword works for some reason

Yeah. Having used it, I 100% believe fire wave would be fine.
Even if they left it at crits only.
Just make it work with true aim.
It would actually be weak because of the on-crit condition
Blazing Spirit will never be good for melee ๐ญ
With true aim, at least you'd get consistent crits almost every swing.
When there's a horde.
And it'd cap at 6 which isn't even that insane.
"Big shoe staff?"
Btw why u recharge peril with holding R u can hear like psyker fighting demons in head
Like u cant control me
whenever I show that gif everyone immediately understands which one I'm talking about lmao
They very much do when you reach over 100% peril
Its because in lore u use warp
And like warp its like hell energy
same energy
But spase hell energy
why do they call it warp when you of in the cold daemon of out hot become the daemon
nooooo not viscous
So im letting demons in head while using warp
to my understanding
whenever a psyker does anything warp related there's a chance a daemon steps in through them
this
Emperor should ban (kill) all demon hazards
That's just wat the daemons want you to think so big Empire can keep sending innocent little mind readers to the golden toilet
For what it's worth, the emperor himself is technically a demon hazard.
Psyker life.
Living Saints are basically Daemon Princes.
not exactly
or perhaps exactly
i thought they were more like greater daemons (of the emprah)
Except they keep a little more than being a husk, so to speak.
Naw, they are the greatest servants of the emperor given life anew to save others and carry out his will.
Martyrs.
They are daemon princes.
The difference between a daemon prince and a greater daemon is quite simple.
Daemon princes were formerly mortal.
Living saints, being that they were normal humans before their ascension, are daemon princes, by definition.
this chat is getting heretical fast
Since when are there space horses?!
living saints are demon princes of emps

Yo honey, new class just dropped. Horse cavalry darktide.
Go look up IG rough riders.
WDYM? I've been here for some time now. Flees.
They ride these weird test tube baby horses and literally cavalry charge things with spears.
As far as I know, yeah.
When will they be added to my darktide tho
If there was any sort of companion oriented class added, it'd be a houndmaster type class
Doubt that'd ever happen though
About as unlikely as us getting a beastman class
With AI so bad, you question how even...
New class is Tau drone guy
The most likely 5th class we'd get, if we even get one, would be tech adepts.
Source:

Give us a hound master but make it use the same dog sounds.
Traumatize everyone every map.
It saddens me, i want a beastman class so bad
That would be so triggering
You know it to be true. I'm just badgood at blending in.
New ogryn ability. Ogryn dog keeper. Passively mauls/CCs elites and suppresses gunners. Activate for fur missile.
Look, Papa uses chainaxe to spoop me so often now.
Ogryn sized dog.
Fastball special.
Remnant fta did dog right.
Revving when around.
Named ability good boy. Dog solos anything that isn't a monster/boss
Look, with how the skelebros in VT2 are like, I don't think they'll manage it.
Assault marines would be a fun archetype. Blast the starting point and ending point in fire and stagger everything like voc. A mix of grenade+voc.
Yo, those things are amazing. Wdym?
They follow targets, attack things in front of them, stand in formation, and set things on fire for your passives.
They're fantastic as long as you don't sic them on a monster.
And stagger on summon.
Plus, remnant dog didn't need good ai because it had damage. Like one shot gunners damage. Kind of like a Kinetic flayer that self targets and triggers every 5 seconds or less.
Sure. Doesn't change that dog has damage. One skelebro that kills a rat every attack, even specials, and can handily solo a storm vermin is still good with shit ai.
Having silly damage shelves a lot of "it's fecking dumb" problems.
Not when they get shot to death with the AI being just leeroy straight into things.
Way more guns here.
That's why dog is bulky.
Even in remnant it's not as good as personally using abilities most of the time. But it's a pretty great example of how just stat padding an ai companion can do work.
Unless it gets monstrosity tier hp...
Look at our ai bots. Those dudes are tanky as fuck.
They can't handle specials, sure.
They just have inf stam and fake but not inf ammo.
But random horde and shooters, they live infinitely longer than their stats say they should.
Imagine if their lasguns actually did damage.
Bulk and damage solves a lot of "bad ai" problems across gaming.
But can ruin the game for others if the summons are too strong.
It's balance, like anything.
Why even bother if some guy hiding behind a wall with their 4 god summons mauling everything?
Welcome to summoner builds in many games.
Same. And with generic action games. And with SRPGs.
I just summon stuff and AFK.
Looking at path of exile, those builds are anyways relevant, but they're not top tier.
Cos I basically could summon too much.
Summons still push you into relying on ai. So you have less control than you might otherwise have to react to situations. And it's infinitely slower than zoomy mapper who does the work themselves.
And the best ones can mimic a decent player in terms of power and clear.
Yeah. That's why they're viable, but not top. They can mimic a decent player.
Usually a decent player can outspeed minion builds in content that doesn't involve standing still.
WDYM, just focus on dodging while they freely maul the boss.
There's moments where minions are overtuned but that's not too often across the arpg space compared to self-focused builds.
Yeah. Mages also get to run around. Archers get to run around. It's only melee bros that get cucked that way.
Thing is, you can dodge while doing damage.
Yeah. Literally what I just said.
Mages and archers usually can't.
Orb walking is a mechanic. Stutter stepping. Whatever you want to call it. They're able to be mobile and hit from anywhere they please.
We don't talk melee. They eat hits for us or leeroy with some invul to not go boom.
And in path, many archers and mages have triggered spells too.
Not even getting into totems/ballista and brands which are minion-adjacent
Is not as good. And in some games, not viable.
The delay from it just means you are better off either running a distance and peppering or just bulk up and bunker down.
You really can't say that definitively.
There's rarely a boss that demands you run at top speed at all times and you have no other form of maneuverability or speed boost.
Is like comparing LoL and DOTA2. Orb walking is good, but due to turn rates, you will get dooked sooner or later.
Lol doesn't have turn rates.
And you'll get dooked because of enemy mobility and higher speed.
But you have the same.
Ranged adcs are typically slower.
Just flash away yourself.
Not played league much, have you?
Is same in DOTA2, ranged is generally slower on avg.
No. Only DOTA2.
I stopped with PvP side for ages though, only play co-op customs now.
Adcs are hyper vulnerable. Shit has a ton of mobility that can often just jump on them. They live and die by positioning or simply being able to kill something outright.
Unless you count mobile LoL clones.
It's not just some guy running at you with like 20 more ms and only flash.
In which I bring hard supports to offlane and solo.
This is DOTA2 as well. Unless you are hyperfed.
It might feel like shit in dota with turn rates, but arpgs don't often include that.
So you just one shot anything that isn't a tank so only long range chainstuns will dook you over.
It's literally just your cast or attack speed.
Hoodchimps
You lose some damage if you're repositioning, but archers and mages tend to have very high cast/attack speed and can reliably move while attacking.
Why depends. Pretty sure I played a few with turnrates. Made stutterstep a pain.
Since I roll glass cannon.
Not to mention most of these games include dodges or teleports.
3 hits and I'm dead. 1 hit by any boss/mini-boss.
Yes, that's a short distance roll. That grants you evade.
So explosions still gib you.
You only evade arrows.
Yeah. I like bruisers. My last archer had physical to elemental damage conversion, 90% elemental res, 70% of damage converted to dot, and roughly 1/2 their hp regenerated a second.
All while hitting dot cap
And that is pinpoint timing like playing Bayonetta but with Dragalia Lost controls but worse.
If it wasn't like 6x my health in a single hit, I could probably run away from it.
And I wasn't even the tanky one in my group.
Game is also brutal, only lifesteal is on kill, and summons can ks so you don't heal. And it heals like 3hp per kill.
Dissidia was also an unfortunate eos.
I kinda understand record keeper and brave exvius. Those were really long in the tooth.
But still sad.
Alberius, Gala Zelthia, Gala Chelle and Summer Verica.
WDYM boss isn't weak to Dark? Leeroy.
I mean, I only have a decent water team otherwise.
Also, 5x maxed Gala Bahamuts by the time endgame so lul.
Regina, Gala Mascula, Gala Elisanne and Saldalphon.
If it's 16 man solo raid, I bring Alberius since I know how to dragon dodge.
And he gets 3 different dragon dodge lul.
Claw gaming pog
claw mid
Is there a patch notes I missed somewhere?
Please no trolling
Give autopistol bleed or fire on hit and push instead of flashlight, and it'll actually be an interesting choice instead of just a worse autogun.
And gimme a 1 stack soulblaze on melee hit node!
Mostly bait, but I want it for memes.
Fuck that lemme dual wield autopistol
Like come on itโs a clear reference to the klobb from goldeneye and everyone knows you dual wield klobb
True psyker would be oscurus + autopistol
Ew. What is that? Iโm too young to know ig
Goldeneye from the N64, ask your parents
You could use old games to learn geometry shapes
Look. A model for a char can be bigger than an entire game back then.
About what?
Yeah well lame-o new games lack big head mode so like whatโs the point in living even
There's 3 patch note
There have been some previews about the changes in Tuesdays update
Oh. It's the stuff we saw a few weeks ago. Thought something new had dropped.
real
i hope the changes to devil claw and autopistol can lay the groundwork for further changes regarding the dueling sword conundrum
Prolly same as any other psyker.
oke
Toughness focused. Maybe a stamina if you are on dueling sword and aren't taking block on peril.
should i go lower 
There may be an hp breakpoint that is important to you. I think I've heard people say that 210 is a magic anti-sniper number, but I could be wrong.
Is that meant for quick shrieks so you can swap to melee or something?
I use 1 stam and 2 toughness with 3 health, 3 toughness and 3 combat cooldown.
Can also do 1 stam, 1 health, 1 toughness, or more health/toughness instead of stam
Yeah, that's what I do. 1 of each, with three of each. But I sub out one health for one stamina regen.
keep poking enemies with high soulblaze stack
Prolly unnecessary, but I wanted it.
i wanna try if i can get 20
not now ig
mm
I use a 31WR fgs to quick shriek and maintain high peril.
im thinking using fs too lol
but i dnt like if i need to uh
keep doing special atk
Even if I'm not doing bleed, the special attack is great.
It's like an illisi attack but with ranged stagger. Huge cleave.
wait so uhhh
what does Strength do on psyker, specifically
what does blaze away do >_<
same as any other class: +dam, +cleave, +stagger
though obv +cleave not gonna do shit on purg staff
201 technically
i think taking one hp curio makes a LOT of sense with pubs
if you just play with friends, you can prob skip the hp curio (assuming you trust said friends)
Lol is that cliffhanger penance video here?
Basically
More damage ( cleave and stagger, not that it matters now) on everything that can be affected by Strength (dots included)
Thank ye
And then my Zealot goes all the other way. And I only play Zealot with ppl I know mostly.
๐ฉ man
i take all toughness on zealot, because i only play marty zealot 
I'm not selfish, just telling the team I need to do this penance and poof killed by the exploding poxburster
perhaps another day ๐ฎโ๐จ

Never tell. Ppl more likely to screw you over then if not actually helping.
Someone had to do the shoot bottle penance the other day, I stayed and protected him 
Yeah probably best with pubs..
good lord, ok
after being freed from getting all penances on all classes
trying to re-learn psyker has been an..experience
especially electrokinetic hoooooly that peril generation
i require kamehameha mechanics
what a wild staff
I just do it in a private game with them then. Easier. Also prevents trolls from shooting the other bottles.
It was a pub and he just asked for help at the start
I have very awful builds for it. 7% per quick cast avg.
Other two just ran off?
ER is your friend
Ran straight into the pox gas, yes
whats er
Too many people who just run around in pox gas I have learned
Empyric Resolve the talent that gives less peril and less toughness
cool
Seems about right.
54/60 penances

You just don't want my build. Heh.
Empyric Resolve my beloved
Soothe the headaches
You can use this or change smite to BB with KF
At least that's what I use and I heard no complaints yet 
That peril generation but the damage at the same time
Thank u warp nexus
Have it gen low enough to just spam at every lvl. Heh.
do i gamble for dump stat inferno staff
gamble on the most boring staff? why bother
isnt it like good
If you are rich enough and have all other weapons done, you can. Imo it's not worth it though
Yes
yeah it's overpowered rn, also boring as fuck
i like it
Wait, do you mean just 60 warp resistance or as low as possible?
60 warp res
Then yeah
you can go lower than that?
If you saw my build, you'll be all, just WHY?
You can if you roll low enough warp resistance and high on the other stats so that it doesn't increase to a lot while upgrading
But... hardly worth it, especially if you still need to get other weapons
Share it lmao
Please don't share them again
It's been shared here before in a link. Some people got mad about tanking DH with it cos I should just die then... I use it to tank for ppl for MM, lmao.
also was it voidblast or voidstrike that was the outlier for dump stat
Voidstrike dumps blast radius
Because you asked so nicely, I'll link it again.
i am surprised ek went from one of my least favourite weapons to my favourite
ALL the peril reduction. ALL.
Well, i could take more.
The small nodes.
HRM.
Maybe drop Wildfire for -5% peril gen.
HRM.
Maybe just make an ogryn
I have one. They just suck arse to play.
Deflector enthusiast, nice
Interesting
My 2nd gunker build is similar
Just with shield innstead of scriers
gunker with shield is cursed ngl
EK's a blast, the most fun stuff to play imo
Maybe, but DD pulls the weight fine enough
Works for me
Survived plenty with it
This is vent build, WDYM? Even if you can barely vent lmao.
But yes, you can replace FGS with FS and it'll work.
You just can't tank as long.
It's spreading 
๐ฌ i think it happened on friday and got worse till now
my professor sat next to me while explaining shit about graph theory
imagine not damage and speedmaxxing. you are no true gunker. 
Honestly, I only really use Scrier's on gunker when I'm ammodumping a boss 
Speedmax deez
Everything else dies too quickly to assail and FGS
Lol, maybe that's why I'm a voidstrike munchkin, I actually hold my scrier's for groups
Anyone have a chasm log mission we can duo? Itยดs just for the penance
Gunker is the most boring way to play psyker
It's literally Zealot
zealot... but more gun
If I wanted to play Zealot, I would play Zealot
zealot doesn't get fgs tho
also gunker throwing knife is ~homing~
they also get thammer
which is pretty neat
they also get crusher
which is pretty neat
they also get eviscerator
which is pretty neat
whats the most fun way to play psyker then
gunker
It's actually really good in Havoc 
Whatever is most fun for you 
same as it always was
im asking deadvoid
Depends on how I'm feeling, but it's always with a staff.
EK and trauma are ok
Otherwise, why else even bother?
Want assail? Voidstrike. Want to gamble? Voidstrike. Want to purge enemies by fire? Inferno. Want to teach Crushers a lesson? Blast. Want to delete specials? EK.
Want to delete bosses? Wait-
๐
Inferno is actually really good boss damage, comparatively. Beats out Recon.
Of course, that's before Scrier's, but you could always do... ugh, Scrier's Inferno
I mean the Evis3 is bad
Deadvoid likes big warp balls
recon's boss damage is kinda sad before you factor in infernus
I do
The 15 is just RB distant cousin
Back in my day there was no Evis 3, there was Evis 2 and 15
I'm factoring in Infernus
distant cousin that doesn't work out
Ok person of great age, let's get you to your resting chambers
Reject thammer, embrace bigsword
The only thing that clearly beats Inferno for boss damage is Vraks, which is Vraks

i remember FGS having pretty decent boss damage ๐ค
I mean, it does
But it's no uncanny soulblaze. Even ignoring uncanny, Inferno is still very high on the list with Blaze Away maxxing.
Reject overly-popularized sword, embrace bonk
It burn gud
And also zoomin
The only weapon that makes me actually feel zoomin is knife
Increase your FOV
This made me sick. it went back to 100 after 1 run.
IDK how did I even play that auric run with that.
My FOV is 110 iirc
Bonus, Zoomy Zealot with heavy regret penances.
I guess you don't need toughness if you can just block forever (using only stamina curios on psyker)
Toughness-dumping Psyker the moment any ranged exists and bubble is on cooldown:
basically yeah
was just looking at the build Karien posted
I suppose it'll work as a dedicated boss block/kite build
I can't imagine it feels very good to play aside from that
That's far above ๐ฐ
I'm not brave enough to scroll up
I don't control where Discord decides to stop scrolling
me magdumping my reconlas to keep EE up and regen toughness frantically
It's made purely for doing a slab oggy's job because said slab oggy is on a break. *Stares at @upper sun *
And I refuse to play oggy.
the 25th is coming...
Two days until peak and every mission having 4 ogryns
I don't need them. You will never hit 1 wound without. At a point, you stop taking corruption damage.,
You would have known if you can AFK block tank for like 2 mins.
what do you mean you'll never hit 1 wound?
You take a fixed amount of corruption from the DH.
At max.
It will never go to 1.
If you kill fast enough, you take little.
Otherwise, it'll cap out at around 45% of my Psyker HP bar of corruption.
ok
I've been running 1 tough 2 stam but honestly ill try 3 stam for the fucking shits and gigs
Honestly, don't. I really only do it because all I got on my Psyker is inf+1 +3 stam curios.

