psyker-class

[hardy delta]

guessed so

[strong gulch]

ability to handle pressure with mixed hordes involving Dreg and Scab ragers in melee

[hardy delta]

still kinda hard to use special attack properly and not get killed

[strong gulch]

I am guessing it's a Path term. I haven't seen any mention of that in game.

[verbal thistle]

Path term

I think its how he grades weapons

[cloud night]

I love how useless the staff special attack is lmao

[verbal thistle]

not useless

[strong gulch]

I'm glad Path defines terms, or at least tries to define them as time and effort allows.

[verbal thistle]

its perfect for a challenge run, only staff bash auric damnation

(it sucked)

we didnt win

[cloud night]

Kek

[strong gulch]

Staff special has a silly amount of cleave and can pop a player out of bonbon

[nocturne dust]

Yes, largely.

Empyric Shock has niche use with an LMB-spam build

[azure parcel]

I did not know this

[dull scroll]

wait what, how many hits

[azure parcel]

do you need to hit the blob on the back for that?

[strong gulch]

It looks silly.

[strong gulch]

yeah

[cloud night]

They needa buff it a bit so I can get my bioshock golf swing practice in

A man chooses, a slave obeys

[nocturne dust]

You gotta boop the snoot

[azure parcel]

lmao

[strong gulch]

Staff special a teammate out of bonbon

[cloud night]

Vore

[nocturne dust]

In practice, it's rarely worth the maneuver due to just how close you have to get, at least for me

[strong gulch]

Better off doing a melee heavy

[nocturne dust]

but I'm sure some maniac can wade through a hail of lasfire and mutants to do it

[plucky flax]

I'm not a brawler if a rager touch me I die.

[azure parcel]

luckily VB means Ragers don't touch you

unless game spawns stealth ragers / maulers that sneak up behind you with no sound

or pillow-foot Crushers

idk why Fatshark doesn't rework the Crusher footsteps to be louder and have more reverb. It's a 2-ton ogre with enough metal to equip a chef's kitchen, make it MAKE SOME NOISE

[strong gulch]

Obligatory pillow feet crusher.
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxs7rXAu3FG94swrWJ_ilRFNnJjnWgzOM4?si=HZ4EHBJmNMkg56Wu

[cloud night]

Just take some of that noise marine and tzeentch collaborated cocaine

I mean scriers gaze
You'll be aight

[plucky flax]

I'm not that gud

Damn the game is kinda dead

[nocturne dust]

I've played games with far lower player counts for far longer

[plucky flax]

They are kinda spreading too thin

Between 5 difficulties, 2 mission boards, havoc mode, new stefoni mode

(Meme special assignment occasionally)

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[nocturne dust]

It was split between dozens of modes, the game I'm talking about

[dull scroll]

come 25th it's gonna double

[nocturne dust]

It was called Blood of Steel

[dull scroll]

I believe

[nocturne dust]

Never broke half what we currently have

[dull scroll]

no but seriously though NA West is kinda dead at least in havoc lobby

East and Euro avgs 4 lobby prime time

[native kite]

lol still doing better than Dragon age 😛

[dull scroll]

West, 1 if lucky

[native kite]

and new Assassin Creed

[nocturne dust]

I always wanted a way to queue multiple modes at once while picking and choosing which modes I wanted

[plucky flax]

US E has advantage of EU players can play there.

West is too far.

[nocturne dust]

I play NA West and am closer to it, but I have less lag on East

[dull scroll]

good thing this game somehow magically don't feel any different even at 200 ping for me, I queue EU and East a lot

[plucky flax]

Helldiver 2 has really good latency management system.

I can play any server there.

Maybe sony pay more for their servers.

[nocturne dust]

also, that's not ping lag, I have a lower ping on West but for some reason there's way more disconnects

[nocturne dust]

I still refuse to play HD2 due to their shifty anticheat

[plucky flax]

I'd pick up shadows dirt cheap on sale next year.

[nocturne dust]

Heck yeah, especially after they drop denuvo

[plucky flax]

The gameplay and such are so unimpressive.

Same with the voice acting.

And the facial expressions lol it's so wooden.

[nocturne dust]

I miss Brotherhood

[plucky flax]

If KCD2 can afford mo cap for cutscenes on a $40m budget I dunno how shadows with like $100m+ budget can do this crap

💀

Half that probably for ads but still

[nocturne dust]

Oof, I can see why Ubisoft is having shareholder drama, lol

[deft stump]

I guess you aren't sensitive to lag.

[nocturne dust]

The game is really, really good at handling latency so long as it's consistent

[dull scroll]

It's just magic Karien, I'm sorry

[nocturne dust]

The moment it jumps around, the game explodes

[plucky flax]

I don't think they can recover this year.

Star wars outlaw was a fail commercially too even with the star wars ip.

[dull scroll]

Ubi got Japan PM and the diet to go after them, quite an accomplishment

[deft stump]

That's just connecting to EU or USE. USE is generally worse unless EU potatoes.

[azure parcel]

imagine putting in that much money to deliver mediocre slop

beats me why people reward mediocrity with money

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I'm expecting trouble. At $70 a pop, that's, what, 5 million sales just to break even?

[plucky flax]

I actually really enjoyed odyssey but it's the same game since.

But with worse decision making.

[dull scroll]

they don't hence why the gravy train is drying up

[azure parcel]

the only thing I enjoyed about Odyssey was the Greek history tour

[nocturne dust]

Because people genuinely enjoy it? I read Isekai trash so I have no room to impeach such people

[azure parcel]

also crazy to me tbh

[plucky flax]

Idc if it's seen as racism I don't want to play as a black dude in feudal japan

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you like a thing, you like a thing

[plucky flax]

Like I'd hate it if I'm playing kindom come and the protagonist is an asian.

[azure parcel]

I have gone past the point of enjoying slop media, whether it be movies / games / shows / books, so I just don't get it

[nocturne dust]

I love it when I'm the target of racism by literally everyone in a story /s

[azure parcel]

I feel sad that it's so hard to find genuinely brilliant, creatively inspired content these days

I am being forced to re-read some old books because most of the new fantasy fiction coming out is hot garbage

[plucky flax]

If it makes sense yeah like you're the only asian in 15th century europe then people should react weirdly to ya. But from what i've seen the npcs don't make any comments at all seeing a black guy running around japan.

[nocturne dust]

Games are hard to make. Good games are even harder. Good games that are financially successful are the hardest.

[azure parcel]

very true

[plucky flax]

Play ghost of tsushima it's the better AC shadows.

[azure parcel]

my tinfoil hat theory is that the cause of slop media across platforms is bad writing, and the root cause of bad writing is poorer attention spans and messed up social dynamics

[cloud night]

I was just playing battlefield hardline a few months ago

Yall wanna see a dead game?
That shit averages, still averages less than 60ish people lmfao

[azure parcel]

Ghost of Tsushima is fucking GOATED

I played it years ago, gonna replay it soon

[nocturne dust]

Dang, really? My issue with outsider characters is generally everyone (other than so-nice-they're-naive types) has an excuse to be a dick to you. Lol, if they just ignore that entirely that actually improves it for me

[plucky flax]

Yeah man ghost 2 is going to kick shadow's ass so much

[azure parcel]

amazing game

[strong gulch]

If it's a historical fantasy, then I don't care if x race or ethnic group wasn't or largely wasn't at there at whatever time.

[azure parcel]

I hope so but I'm cautious about all new releases

[strong gulch]

If it's supposed to be a on actual events tho, then no

[plucky flax]

True cautious optimistic. I think sony would capitalise on ubisoft's failure though

[nocturne dust]

I want more high fantasy games

[plucky flax]

And make sure the game comes out blazing

[nocturne dust]

Screw historical fantasy, history is full of stupid. I would know, I'm part of the stupid.

[azure parcel]

Sony has the ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

[plucky flax]

I can't wait for 100000 videos on youtube comparing ghost 2 to shadows later.

[dull scroll]

except Ubi went hard on the game been historically accurate, hence why they even got the Japan gov to go after them 😂

[nocturne dust]

Historically accurate breaking of temple furniture

[dull scroll]

no the black protag, there's a huge drama regarding that character

historic accuracy

[strong gulch]

I wasn't talking about a specific game. I also don't know enough of the specific history.

But yeah

[mental grail]

me seeing people (freaks) actually using devils claw parry in havoc

[strong gulch]

When history and fantasy overlap tho and people get weird

[dull scroll]

the company could have just said it's all a fantasy game and that would be that, but their marketing went full r'tarded in the early days

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-link-parries-hyrule-warriors-age-of-calamity-zelda-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-gif-26473859

[mental grail]

legit had wondering if I'm just that cooked

[nocturne dust]

I'd use Devil's Claw in Havoc but I just can't give up the ability to insta-gib mutants even at h40 with sharp pointy stick

[mental grail]

these people fucking around and parrying shit while I'm struggling to survive

[nocturne dust]

I mean you literally just have to press the parry button as long as it's not an overhead

If it is an overhead, you get to pray nothing steals the parry first

[mental grail]

you've lost me

[nocturne dust]

Press parry button -> get hit -> parry

https://youtu.be/0jd_cVHxR3E

Literally just spam button

nothing else required (as long as no overhead)

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-me-drink-bleach-gif-22890796

[nocturne dust]

If there's an overhead, you have to parry it and it specifically. The parry process blocks all other attacks while parrying, but not overheads.

and of course, you can't parry bullets

...unless Fatshark releases Force Claw

[cloud night]

Same but moreso questioning how the fuck its possible to parry a big ass "fuck off" stick of rebar and concrete the crusher has

[strong gulch]

Saving up the strength to parry instead of using for pullups when ledged.

[weary crane]

Parrying demonhosts on havoc 40 is fun

[deft stump]

You got kidnapped by a Burgle?

[drifting steeple]

perilous focus penance isnt difficult is it

[deft stump]

Which one is that?

The bb kills at max warp charges?

[jovial juniper]

Keeping your toughness maxed out every time

So dodging

Soulstealer value

Quietude value

[marble crater]

Dodge, stay behind your frontline, dodge, pay extra attention to your positioning

[jovial juniper]

Get good at melee

[marble crater]

Yes, that's a tip for every class

[deft stump]

But the avg psyker and vet can't melee.

[native kite]

Greatsword is life.

[marble crater]

So the tip to get good at melee is a good tip then

[upper sun]

player outlines might come back eventually

[marble crater]

Player outlines?

[nocturne dust]

They never left

[upper sun]

they still dont work

[upper sun]

🚬 this dude

[nocturne dust]

I have mods, so they do

[marble crater]

How can I see them then?

[nocturne dust]

[upper sun]

someone never played l4d2

[marble crater]

I didn't

[upper sun]

they dont work when allies are far enough

the exact opposite of what theyre supposed to do

[drifting steeple]

scrriers gaze

[marble crater]

If they are far enough away that they don't work you have bigger problems

[upper sun]

nah id win

[marble crater]

I have played with you enough times to know that's not true

[upper sun]

hey i win plenty without u

[marble crater]

Our win rate together is awful

[marble crater]

Me too if I play without you

We are each other's problem and a bad influence

[upper sun]

🚬

[nocturne dust]

The simple solution is one of you barrel the other and then solo the mission

[upper sun]

🙄

u cant solo

i wont let you

[nocturne dust]

Why would I when I have sacrificial peons like you?

[upper sun]

🙄

you're getting barreled

(again)

[nocturne dust]

Again?

[radiant frigate]

what happened to I-LET-YOU-SOLO

[plucky flax]

I-LET-YOU-GOON

[deft stump]

Oh, play train. Just learn to quell blast VS at the first door.

[upper sun]

he sent dead to the void, leaving him ... dead

[copper jay]

This is so fun !

[uneven mantle]

Any good soul willing to help with cliffhanger penance? My sanity drops cuz of it 😄

[upper sun]

i can try in a bit

gimmie like 5-10 minutes

@uneven mantleready?

[uneven mantle]

Strike 3, but started with some randoms 10 mins ago, do not want to sabotage

[upper sun]

ah good luck then

ill do a game too lets see after

[uneven mantle]

no worries

thx

[upper sun]

no good maps up for it right now anyways

[uneven mantle]

okay, I did manage to get it with some decent friendly randoms :3, but if Ya still want to help with something, I could get this mind blast monster private mission done and be free with specific penances.

[upper sun]

sure

i just finished the game

[uneven mantle]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1162146264721404004

Whenever You are free then

[jovial juniper]

Same

(My cw party got wiped)

500 plague monks

[upper sun]

it shouldnt take too long were just doing a penance

[dense wolf]

hiya

who do i use smite mainly on

brain forgot

[jovial juniper]

Anything not boss

Or green

[dense wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-mochimon-cute-kawaii-gif-17170643924282547874

[jovial juniper]

And hopefully when there's a ton of enemies

[deft stump]

Beeg mixed groups.

[dense wolf]

🫡

areigato

[marble crater]

A lot of things that can kill the team? Smite

Ragers, Crushers, Hound wave, Mutie wave, Burster wave, smite

Pox walkers, don't smite

[deft stump]

Crusher gang about to make someone cry? Smite.

[drifting steeple]

i am having a little too much fun with the surge staff

[deft stump]

Is mini smite.

[near gale]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-locket-heart-yoshi-big-beeg-gif-20028801

[uncut sinew]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e7e5920-f418-4b4e-8e67-736d5d54c054/melee-psyker-18?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

been loving this obscurus build

H-L-L one shot combo is funny

need both uncanny and slaughterer be up though

[copper jay]

Thanks for this guide

[marble crater]

I have a similar guide for brain burst

[copper jay]

I want to hear that !

[marble crater]

Sniper, Bomber, Trapper/Hound that's running away, Gunners and you have nothing better to do, use BB

Pox walkers, don't BB

[ebon smelt]

But they explode cool

[marble crater]

If you play EK or VB Staff with KF, never switch to your Blitz at all

[copper jay]

@marble craterWhat is your favorite Smite build for Auric Maelstrom ?

[marble crater]

My smite build is the same as my normal EK shriek build, just with smite instead of BB with KF, I only use it for hound/mutie/burster waves

[upper sun]

2 soulblaze
1 inferno recon
1 rending trauma

this shit is gonna be a cakewalk

[marble crater]

Sentences said right before disaster

[upper sun]

🚬

i fucked up

i braught no stamina and could push spam

why the hell does obscurus have 3 base stamina

[fast prawn]

I want this so bad

do NOT know what to do lol

[north tartan]

Isn’t this just an unlock from leveling up psyker

[wooden sand]

No, its from the quest level penance thingy

[marble crater]

called it

[marble crater]

And yeah cosmetic should just be from getting enough penance progress in general, you can check the rewards at the bottom

[upper sun]

🚬 ok i just remembered why i stopped playing psyker

melee is not fun without twbs

[marble crater]

Just dodge

[upper sun]

no i wanna land that hit and deal with the consequences

[marble crater]

Zealots

[copper jay]

What is Soublaze ?

[prime elk]

funny, i don't run twbs on any of my zealot builds

[upper sun]

warp fire stacks

i dont run it on light attack heavy builds

[smoky stag]

today i got told that a Psyker isn't a melee class by a Zealot. Dude prob thought he was smart by stating the obvious

[prime elk]

psyker can be a melee class if you want it to be

[deft stump]

What even is that? Something loner or so?

[upper sun]

no

it removes player stagger

its so kino

[deft stump]

Is more, it leads to loner.

[upper sun]

loner sucks

its the only good thing in that side

[smoky stag]

yeah true, but a Smite and range based build is not

[marble crater]

Does it still remove ranged stagger, even with the stagger nerfed now?

[smoky stag]

like that's the main thing of a Psyker in most builds. be a support class

[patent mango]

save the point spent on twbs and get martyrs purpose instead

[marble crater]

No

[patent mango]

no they're usually dps

[near gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/629170941032792084.webp?animated=true

Your money is flying away

[patent mango]

what the scallop how it do that

[marble crater]

Killing things is the best support

[smoky stag]

shield, smite is support. and that's my build

[near gale]

You suggested martyr's purpose, it grew wings to leave you

[prime elk]

psyker's a do-everything class, let's be real

[patent mango]

martyrs purpose is peak though it does something probably maybe

[smoky stag]

depends on build tho

[smoky stag]

but generally speaking ur right

[marble crater]

Blocked

[near gale]

[patent mango]

whats up with zealot and having abysmal slop in the tree

[near gale]

because they didn't add cheese

[jovial juniper]

Too uneducated/indocrinated to request good talent tree

[patent mango]

lol

[fervent fossil]

Yeah I can't seem to play gun/Melee psyker for the life of me

[prime elk]

press F every once a in while, and spam melee

[stone totem]

LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER

50 jabillion damage buffs and things that reward you for critting

[fervent fossil]

Still getting blitzed down in heresy with my build and I feel like a sneeze kills me

[stone totem]

I'm not cracked at making psyker builds but post tree and weapons and maybe I can help

Psyker has a lot of potential but yeah they're very glass cannon-y

If you're not constantly doing things to proc toughness at least

[prime elk]

try running fgs and something like tihs: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da95bc2-c968-4cd9-9b57-b0d4ef08d341/fgs

[fervent fossil]

Of course my screenshot isn't working so I have to take the pictures because I feel dumb lol

I do indeed love the force great sword so I'm still chugging away with that. It's more of an integrating when to use my IAG

[prime elk]

usually shit at ranged that are a threat but can't immediately deal with

and/or if you want to shred stuff like bosses and reapers

otherwise you mostly use fgs

[strong gulch]

After you get red role, you can post pics. Keep chatting to get out of THE GREY™️.

[fervent fossil]

I must yap to escape the clutch of the grey

[plucky flax]

Just spam here.

We chilling

[strong gulch]

Fair. Psyker doesn't have as much things to mitigate damage taken. CC and staff help a lot; to the point of opting out of some of the game's mechanics.

Working on positioning, map knowledge, enemy behavior, KD (kinetic deflection; talent on tree), pushing with melee, and dodging all help a ton.

Melee and gunker (gun psyker) have the same builds. Those take assail; and assail has a good bit of CC in it.

[cloud night]

Mfw warp reload speed talent doesnt make you explode so Im putting that work in with a maxed warp rider buffed DB shotgun

Only downside to it carapace

But it knocks crushers on their ass so its aight

[strong gulch]

FS, please fix surety of arms to work with Warp Expenditure.

I still probably wouldn't take WE, but come on.

[raven mountain]

But, but, what if you just want funny head pops and to never stop knifing?

[strong gulch]

Non melee so not considered when build crafting for someone newer.

BUT do it if you like and have fun with it.

If someone really wants to get better at melee, I do rec the BB path over assail to reduce to access to assail CC.

Get gud nerd.
It's me. I'm nerd.

[raven mountain]

Yeah. That's where I've been heading with my scrier's builds.

Landed on knife+vb with bb+kf.

See bulwark? Vb. Anything else gets the knife.

[strong gulch]

Ye ye

[raven mountain]

80% crit chance EE makes running into gunners and reapers hilarious.

[strong gulch]

It really does. lmao

10 snipers?? no care

[raven mountain]

Even had teammates be like, oh no, don't go in there! Oh wait, never mind, you're Him.

Was peak moment for weird "thought I was a Zealot" build.

My only annoyance with the build is that popping scrier's kills your momentum.

Kicks you out of sprint and locks you out of it. Maybe can sort of fix with a light attack and resprint. Not sure.

It's extra funny because you very keenly feel the line when you cross it. "Oh. Mb." is very common with it.

[strong gulch]

fecking true

[raven mountain]

I'm still only 50/50 with ragers though. Legitimate coin flip between them all getting murdered in seconds and me just falling over instantly.

When I'm more worried about the group being able to function, I don't even take the coin flip and whip out vb instead.

[weary idol]

assail staggers ragers of both types

[cloud night]

My only gripe with knife psyker isnt psyker dont have a bleed talent like Vet and Zeal

But its fine other than that

[weary idol]

okay but bleed knife builds are really bad

so honestly it's a positive

[cloud night]

Really?
Bleed damage is that shit?

[weary idol]

not encouraged to sabotage your own build because of bleed talents

It's like fine

but knife is a super high finesse weapon

so you'd be insane to not take Precognition

[cloud night]

Sooo what?
Uncanny and riposte?

Oh precog

[small whale]

bleed is a noob trap except for ogryn

[weary idol]

though both vet/zealot can justify using Mercy Killer instead if they are running the bleed talents they have

[cloud night]

Ill have to try precog more
Been running this

[plucky flax]

Wut I play lacerate uncanny on zealot and flesh tearer uncanny on psyker

[small whale]

a bleed synergy team would be interesting though 😂

[plucky flax]

Me noob

[rich spindle]

I like ft uncanny too if I have a staff

[prime elk]

bleed knife isn't bad

[small whale]

i mean good staff players rarely use their melee

[rich spindle]

Chaos spawn defense weapon

[prime elk]

staffkers 🤮

[small whale]

basically they only need it for muties or dogs maybe even everything else is staff kill or BB

[plucky flax]

I play tru duo with bleed knife it's gud noob weapon

[small whale]

havoc 40s?

[long wharf]

taking a knife on a psyker is basically a noob trap

[weary idol]

no it isn't lmao

[plucky flax]

Nah only auric

[rich spindle]

Playing psyker is a noob trap

[plucky flax]

I'm not that good to duo h40

[weary idol]

psyker gets the most benefit out of weapons as mobility stat sticks to switch from their staff to

[long wharf]

you're a noob trap

[small whale]

coming from h40s malestroms feel like a breeze

[rich spindle]

For yo momma

[weary idol]

and they have by far the highest finesse damage in the game when built for it

[cloud night]

Should I drop uncanny for precog or riposte for precog?

[weary idol]

riposte

[small whale]

uncanny is needed

[plucky flax]

Do you duo h40?

[weary idol]

uncanny is overpowered and basically mandatory on any weapon that has it

[small whale]

nope im too bad for that too

[plucky flax]

Omg same

[small whale]

my build wouldnt let me no mobility

[long wharf]

I miss mobility when I use the FSG, but I prefer the FSG to any other melee weapon for the psyker

[small whale]

i feel like those solos/duos are just cheesing chokepoints with mobility

[long wharf]

"cheesing chokepoints" is called tactics

[rich spindle]

Is anyone really duoing h40 and not just losing 90% of the time until they get a lucky run

[plucky flax]

It's still incredibly much harder to play as 2 vs even 3.

[long wharf]

I can imagine playing paintball and hearing someone yell out "stop cheesing chokepoints"

[small whale]

its more like they run in circles until all the enemies are spawned then use their infinite cleave weapons

flamer/purg or whatever

[long wharf]

it's a valid tactic

[small whale]

its only valid cause there is a spawn limit

if there wasnt theyd get overwhelmed

[long wharf]

and it's not something a noob could do

[small whale]

its just abusing the spawn limit system pretty much

[long wharf]

sure

[small whale]

a little under what speedrun stealth zealots do

[long wharf]

that's fine if you're playing by yourself or with a team that's fine with it

I personally don't like playing with speedrunners

[weary idol]

I don't know if somebody should tell those stealth zealots that vet stealth both lasts longer and gives a speed boost or not

Or if they don't play veteran because they're insanely incompetent and need Zealots numerous get out of jail free cards to function

[long wharf]

vet stealth builds can also be basically invulnerable

it's a bit broken

[small whale]

number two, also the uptime is better with crit

or atleast more consistent

[prime elk]

and yet voc is stronger

wouldn't say vet invis is broken in any sense of the word

[long wharf]

stealth vet can get up to 95% toughness dr

[weary idol]

doesn't work like that

[small whale]

it basically makes you untargetable until the rest pf your team dies 😂

[weary idol]

toughness damage reduction stacks multiplicatively

[small whale]

then you die

[prime elk]

stealth vet tdr is just golden toughness at home lol

[long wharf]

I play with someone who enjoys knife stealth vet

and I've watched her screen as she gets hit for, like, 1 point of damage

it's stupid

[prime elk]

i main invis on vet

it's good

but not voc good

[small whale]

vets dr works differently from zealots and ogryns

[long wharf]

I'm not arguing VoC isn't good

[weary idol]

(it doesn't)

[small whale]

basically once their toughness is below 50% (after one hit) they just get one suotted

cause iron will

zealots dr is consistent

same with ogryn

[long wharf]

well, zealot also gets a "get out of death free" activation

as well as "book of push everything"

[prime elk]

zealot can stack some pretty insane tdr + literal invincibility every 2 minutes

[small whale]

imo zealot is the most forgiving class

[long wharf]

also, I refuse to play zealot without the relic blade

the relic blade is too much fun to use anything else

[prime elk]

relic blade is a beast yeah

[eager token]

tac axe is too juicy

[long wharf]

relic blade's biggest weakness is carapace

I chew through crushers far more easily as a psyker with fsg

[small whale]

apparently theres a move that does good damage on big targets the uppercut on it

[prime elk]

wdym you 2 shot crushers usually with relic blade

[weary idol]

I don't like the relic blade so I have no such allure to the zealot class

[patent steeple]

its actually 75%, but that detail doesn't matter in melee.

against ranged, I think it being 75% is somewhat worse than 50% in a few more ways than just the required toughness amount being obviously higher. gunners, for example, usually get past that 75% toughness DR rather quick, and past that you basically melt...

[prime elk]

relic blade's only weakness is mobility related

[long wharf]

yeah, you get to watch everyone else run off ahead

[weary idol]

yeah, but also you're playing Veteran so shoot them?

[long wharf]

as you yell "I'm on my way!"

same with fsg use

[small whale]

yeah thats the feeling on veteran you can take one hit then you get melted

[weary idol]

imagine being a psyker though you don't even get that one hit

[long wharf]

I basically don't play psyker in mid-to-high havocs

I'm not good enough to never get hit

and just don't like the purge and trauma staves

[small whale]

psyker idk how they survive in havoc against shooters except by staying in bubbles the whole time

[patent steeple]

there's never more than one gunner (at least, that's usually the case), so shooting them all before you melt even faster (assuming the gunners are in large enough groups) is not exactly easy...

[upper sun]

the onlything bad with relic blade is the doge

[patent steeple]

HEY!

[weary idol]

empathic evasion, high crit chance, and bullshit toughness regen from Soulstealer

[upper sun]

oh

[sacred crane]

yummy soulblaze and bb and teammates

[upper sun]

yeah

you cant use relic anymore

[weary idol]

also bullshit suppression from inferno staff

[upper sun]

im calling john fatshark to disable it on your account

[sacred crane]

too bad it cant suppress crushers

[small whale]

I don't think my staff friend can get empathatic or its pretty far from the left side if i remember correcntly

[long wharf]

my uncle is CEO of Darktide, he's going to ban your psyker

[prime elk]

you can easily get EE on literally any psyker build lol

[small whale]

but she uses trauma not inferno

[prime elk]

it's a very easy and high-value pickup on most builds

[long wharf]

EE is one point away from the cooldown aura

which you should always be taking

[small whale]

Might help her rework the build then

[prime elk]

well you'll prob be grabbing psykinetic on the way down anyway

it's easy to get both

[weary idol]

threw this together in 5 seconds

[prime elk]

yeah this is pretty standard

[long wharf]

why smite instead of BB?

[weary idol]

BB is completely worthless in havoc

it doesn't kill anything

and it costs a shit ton of peril

[long wharf]

oh, for havoc, alright makes sense

[weary idol]

smite can at least stun things in emergencies

[small whale]

Isn't it your best boss killing tool

[patent steeple]

why use In Fire Reborn instead of Vampire, other than the lower proc chance on Vampire?

[patent mango]

last day for havoc

[weary idol]

your best boss killing tool is your sword

[glacial vapor]

The blitzes really need better scaling

[long wharf]

I wish assail had scaling, so it wasn't all-powerful until damnation

[weary idol]

it's pretty damn strong even in damnation given which side of the tree usually uses it

[long wharf]

sure, I love the utility assail gives

but it stops single-handedly wiping out whole groups of enemies by itself with no windup/prep

[weary idol]

I mean it can do that with EP

It's a pretty funny build

[long wharf]

I only use DD with assail now

[weary idol]

EP+Warp Splitting has Assail killing like 7 enemies per dart on a crit

[raven mountain]

Which is fine. So does vb which I bring for bulwarks. I was mostly lamenting my inability to just murder them like I do crushers and maulers. Half the time I can just sidestep their entire combo while attacking, the other other I just don't dodge anything and die. More a me problem, like dying always is on psyker.

[sacred crane]

siblings im having such a struggle with two feckin achieveements guuuhhh

[cloud night]

The only reason I like smite is so.I can hear the loner voice's smug or cocky ass voice lines

That accent is fuckin great

[long wharf]

I've found that assail doesn't stagger a rager out of its attack

it also doesn't make them stop running

[raven mountain]

Lol, I've been playing flesh tearer+riposte for the silly 80% crits. It's funny because my bleed is worth about 1/10 of my melee damage, but it accounts for about half as many kills.

[long wharf]

the french female accent is 🤌

I hate the voice lines about the thriving liturgical scene on Atoma, though

[cloud night]

The german fem accent got me.feeling things

[long wharf]

foreign accents do that

for me, Irish accents get me

a little wimbely in the jimbelies

ifyanowaimean

[weary idol]

VERY thrilling

[long wharf]

god, on release, it seemed like 75% of her voice lines were that

[cloud night]

Male seer voice is my second fav

Just love his... wholesome psychopathy

[plucky flax]

Bleed is also just really good for fighting monsters.

[long wharf]

I've said for a long time that I wish soulblaze was more of a debuff than a dot

and that we had talent tree ways of applying it that's weapon/ability agnostic

[raven mountain]

I would love if we had a 1 stack per melee soulblaze. Gimme that bleed soulblaze knife!

[upper sun]

im pretty sure it cycled out

[upper sun]

shes romanian

[long wharf]

I've dreamed since release of applying soulblaze effectively via melee

I also dreamed of applying soulblaze via the OG surge staff

[marble crater]

Just play flame sword, smh

Roll one with 0 damage, first target and finesse

[long wharf]

god that sounds like such a bad time

[upper sun]

blazing spirit should work like lacerate

[long wharf]

if soulblaze were a stacking debuff, then there'd be no problem with it applying on-hit

keep in mind that FartShack has nerfed all dots since release

[marble crater]

And what would the debuff do and how would you rework inferno and venting shriek?

[long wharf]

make it a damage taken debuff

make the inferno staff an actual flamethrower

[marble crater]

That doesn't sound very fun

[long wharf]

the purge staff isn't very fun to use, sorry

it sounds like wet farts

[near gale]

Whether or not it is fun to use, it is extremely op >.>

[long wharf]

and as a non-damage effect, you could make soulblaze self-propagating when enemies collide

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-guy-disney-cringe-bruhtiktok-ayeyuhaye-fed2fire-gif-20701848

[prime elk]

nah he's right

its boring as fuck

[long wharf]

the biggest evidence against the purge staff being not fun is that outside of havoc, people use basically everything else

the purge staff lacks.. presence

there's no real feedback when you use it

you're just spraying and hoping things running at you die before they get to you, because you can't see them either way

the audio lacks bass/"oomph" entirely

spamming left click to keep things away from you is boring as shit

[marble crater]

That's true, it really is not very fun to use

[long wharf]

nothing about the purge staff feels good to use

[marble crater]

And also pretty slow paced, imo. So kinda eh in auric unless you are holding an area for a bit once or twice a mission

[long wharf]

and anyone claiming otherwise probably enjoys eating plain white bread.

[cloud night]

Womp womp tbh

[marble crater]

Plain white bread is not bread

[long wharf]

it is

[marble crater]

Nah, it's slop

[cloud night]

Ur right, its sandpaper

[long wharf]

but I wouldn't pick it as a go-to

[cloud night]

Thst too

[long wharf]

I basically treat it as a pb&j platform only

or if I'm going to make some grilled cheese

[cloud night]

What kind of jelly?

[long wharf]

but even then, sourdough makes for a vastly superior grilled cheese

depends on whether I can get strawberry jelly from the local farmer's market (without preservatives)

[radiant frigate]

strawberry is a classic

[cloud night]

strawberry

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[long wharf]

I get kidney stones, so I don't trust anything with strawberry in it unless I can be sure it was made with absolutely no preservatives

strawberries and raspberries both are very commonly dipped in calcium chlorate to preserve them

[wide lodge]

[lilac summit]

that sucks bro im so sorry

[long wharf]

calcium chlorate is super common as a kidney stone composite

yeah, I don't recommend kidney stones to anyone

[lilac summit]

a friend of mine had some recently

he didnt sleep for almost a week

[long wharf]

shitty part is I absolutely love strawberries and raspberries

when I get the bigger ones that put up a fight getting to the bladder, I usually pass out from the pain

I once had a 13mm and 11mm stone in the same kidney trying to leave at the same time

had to have surgery to break them up and extract them

for the average human, your ureters (the tubes from your kidneys to your bladder) are about 4~5mm inner diameter

[lilac summit]

i swear some of those things happen because of our modern diet

[long wharf]

sometimes

humanity has dealt with kidney stones for a very long time

they're not a modern thing

[lilac summit]

ah mb

[long wharf]

google says earliest recording of symptoms and treatment of kidney stones was in Mesopotamia between 3200 and 1200 BC

[lilac summit]

to be fair

that IS decently modern

[long wharf]

so yeah, nothing directly created by more modern chemicals

[lilac summit]

in the grand scheme of things

but i get ya

[long wharf]

when it comes to medical stuff, "modern" only goes back a couple hundred years

industrial revolution, latest

but there are different kinds of kidney stones

[lilac summit]

eating refined grains is about that time right?

[long wharf]

and it all comes down to what your body is failing to clean out of you

[lilac summit]

im not too sure how that would correlate tho

[long wharf]

no, refined grains would be more towards starting of agriculture

humans have been modifying crops for millenia

[lilac summit]

i really did think kidney stones were more of a modern thing

[long wharf]

turns out not

biology is wack

life is essentially complex, unpredictable chemical factories

stuff usually works a certain way

[upper galleon]

i don't think it's really good at it

i've ran flesh tearer+ uncanny into monstro maelstroms

and bleed is just, 10%-15% of my damage

and the rest of it is just normal knife behavior of repetitive face stabs for a gazilion damage

it's not nothing

[plucky flax]

It's free damage on monsters.

It won't add up to much on small mobs.

[upper galleon]

but imo you can juice the knife itself

and get more or about the same compared to having bleed

[strong gulch]

I think bleed is most useful if you need to be more defensive. Hit some and back away or block. You can afford to be sloppier too.

That for psyker tho. IDk about other classes and their actual synergy with bleed.

[marble crater]

Vet with mercy killer and bleed talent is funny

[strong gulch]

I remember when I first rolled a knife with bleed and mercy killer, before DS and uncanny buffs, and I felt so powerful.

I was also playing very bad builds.

[marble crater]

You are still playing very bad builds when the random wheel commands it

[strong gulch]

Yes, but I know better now.

It's willfull.

[marble crater]

That makes it worse

[strong gulch]

[pure karma]

I know no one care about this but, electric psyker is amazingly fun now that i play at havoc/auric but feels aweful on lower difficulties

[jovial juniper]

Not enough enemies fr fr

[pure karma]

Totally, specially since smite feels amazing when paired with a competent squad, makes me wonder why ppl say smite is mid tier or lower

[prime elk]

smite's hated not because it's bad, but because it's annoying

[patent steeple]

probably because its so easy to use, assuming you use it for horde clear (which some if not most smite users do)

[cloud night]

Because people try to smite monstrosities which does jack shit, for one

[pure karma]

I feel it´s amazing specially for horde clear, paired with electric staff feels 🧑‍🍳

[prime elk]

yeah i have a palp build too

it's fun

[strong gulch]

EP smite scales with density.

[patent steeple]

I myself tend to use assail with electro staff just so I can deal with shooters a bit more easily...

[strong gulch]

EP smite as a catalyst for PC, creeping flames, and psyk aura in a sea of elites is absurd.

[pure karma]

Oh thats quite fun ngl, assail it´s also cool but been struggling to make a decent mix between electric and assail, specially because been trying to pair it with something other than blaze sword or ds

Or even a funtional soul blaze/smite build, sounds kinda fun on paper

[strong gulch]

EK deals with shoots really well on its own. Slide around and lighting spam.

[pure karma]

Ya ya, been practicing the slide lighting spam for some days and totally felt the difference

[cloud night]

Be great if the lightning staff's lightning acted like lightning and chained more than two bodies

[strong gulch]

It used to and there was a lot less damage

[cloud night]

Shame

[strong gulch]

No. What we have is an upgrade.

It just stunned like 6 things and didn't kill things quickly.

People would just stun those 6 enemies in a horde and not actually help

[radiant frigate]

but it did help with the Entrenched Shootymans Dilemma

that was a problem back then

old surge staff did just kind of allow you to skip shooter encounters

[cloud night]

I really am curious sometimes how psyker was before the apparent skill tree rework

Im not a veteran by any means lmao, but I heard it was way diff before all those reworks however many months ago

[prime elk]

it was honestly totally fine

[long wharf]

I really liked the OG surge staff

[lethal plover]

"I used to rule the world"

[rich spindle]

Anyone know if purg m1 spam macro is higher dps than charged attack

[jovial juniper]

And caused friendly fire

Rogue Trader maxxing

[plucky flax]

No right click is more

Crit chain

[wind spruce]

Flayer bad, perilous bad 😭

Pls buff psyker

[strong gulch]

Also bold to assume I haven't already picked the damage and SB nodes

[brazen rampart]

Your first mistake was going onto reddit looking for signs of intelligent life.

[marble crater]

Whenever people say "pick something else" they never say what to pick instead

Most of the time one point doesn't get you far anyway, because you are likely stopping at a big node instead of a small one

[cloud night]

My reaction when the smyker trying to LMB the plogryn and getting in my fucking way constantly gets a lightning bolt up.the ass and instantly dies

Fat fuckn fingered the word "to"

[rich spindle]

I’ve really been liking ep flayer with purg

But you can’t push bursters with m1 anymore :(

[strong gulch]

I mean you can. It's gamble unless the cooldown icon is up

[rich spindle]

So true

critical peril means 97?

[marble crater]

Yes

[copper jay]

What are you feelings about Voidstrike + Smite ?

When I see this ...

[rich spindle]

Smite probably has the best synergy with voidstrike

Assail kinda works too if you’re getting dd

[strong gulch]

You should be getting DD in terms of meta for voidstrike,

There has been changes since the smite + voidstrike rec. It's still good, but we also have different weapons now.

Like FGS. It can handle getting surrounded and armor.

Voidstrike does take out crushers pretty well.

Bulwark packs are annoying.

Assail helps will being surrounded and scattered shooters.

[marble crater]

Three Veterans in their natural habitat

[strong gulch]

Something that smite has over assail is placement on the tree. You can get both psyk aura and MM (malefic momentum).

[upper sun]

how many vets does it take to spin a valve?

[marble crater]

Yes

[strong gulch]

[marble crater]

In total we were standing there for a minute

[upper sun]

i had something similar

[strong gulch]

[upper sun]

one of my few lights out games we just huddled up at the start and refused to move

eventually we convinced someone to start the game for us while we stayed at the start

[marble crater]

All had recon lasguns I think, mission was a light show

[cloud night]

Whoever said purge staff wasnt fun...

Yea ur right, I find more fun with fire trauma, because I can make people explode

And burn alive

[upper sun]

😭

purge is fun

[marble crater]

No

[upper sun]

noob blocked

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-speech-bubble-small-guy-with-a-sword-speech-bubble-gif-2288421216251484021

[analog agate]

Inferno is… sweep left to right. Or if you want to get crazy and switch it up. You can sweep right to left

[strong gulch]

Stare in the same spot sometimes too.

360 no scope

[marble crater]

Sometimes I move it vertically

[strong gulch]

Sometimes I explode with no enemies around.

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/daring-today-are-we-spongebob-squidward-gif-22508233

[marble crater]

On inferno? Actually takes skill

[cloud night]

I only find purge enjoyable when I wanna fulfill my culinary dreams of making heretical bbq for the ogryns with my chainaxe for cutlery

The big bastards are always hungry, the rations never last

[marble crater]

[cloud night]

Pay no attention to the corruption that may occur as a result

Its all part of magnus' plan

[strong gulch]

Brain bad

[marble crater]

Don't poison the ogryns

Psykers should have a stat that shows average perils per mission

[strong gulch]

A counter on our collars. 😭

[cloud night]

They have clockwork digestive tracts; I promise they'll be ok

[marble crater]

I explode very rarely now, but I still do sometimes when there is too much going on or I misjudge the shriek cooldown and lose the gamble

[marble crater]

What does that even mean

[cloud night]

It'll go through em like shit through a goose

[strong gulch]

I still regularly explode. Outside of bugs, I just forget about the mech and am prone to brain fog and mental fatigue.

Half the time is after everything is head. lmao

[nocturne dust]

Why I only turned down the peril sounds slightly is so it still cuts through the madness to tell me I'm about to do something stupid

[upper sun]

anyone up for a night cap?

[strong gulch]

I can explode with nothing around and ruin true survivor again.

[nocturne dust]

a wat

[strong gulch]

night

cap?

[upper sun]

a game before sleep

[strong gulch]

oh ok

[nocturne dust]

sure

[cloud night]

You hate the legion?

Ave, true to caesar

[nocturne dust]

Although I just woke up

[upper sun]

i hate the book legion

[jovial juniper]

Really, just as I boot up Rogue Trader

[strong gulch]

I hope we get scabs

[jovial juniper]

Smh

[upper sun]

same

[strong gulch]

I need 59 of em

[upper sun]

i need 500 😭

[strong gulch]

[upper sun]

oh no wait nvm 700

[jovial juniper]

If still need a 4th I can join up

[upper sun]

yeah its not happening

ye

[jovial juniper]

No biggie

[upper sun]

we were just in queue

join

[strong gulch]

join ye join

[jovial juniper]

On it

[wind spruce]

Ikr like bruh we're already taking every decent offensive option

[loud berry]

just started leveling a psyker anyone got a good build I could use?

[wind spruce]

Just get assail as soon as you can. Your other choices don't really matter that much. Grab quietude and soustealer for some defense too

[loud berry]

ya def having some issues staying alive at this early state. Sure im just doing bad but cant figure it out lol

[celest valve]

half a second away from your 'save me' button

[strong gulch]

yes

[marble crater]

Work towards something like that

[marble crater]

Changing your dodge settings could also help, default settings are bad

[jovial juniper]

Tried to ping the Ragers and I couldn't

Too bad I got revive speed on my curios

[upper sun]

ye i tried before and it didnt work in 2 games

i think pinging while reviving is bugged

[strong gulch]

I was too busy going down to try to ping revive

[nocturne dust]

I was wondering where all my rust was the prior game, seems like I found it

[strong gulch]

rusty team

brain fog team

[nocturne dust]

My favorite bit that kept happening was me accidentally saving myself from dogs using assail spam

[strong gulch]

I kept starting SG then realizing I need to reload

[jovial juniper]

I took the liberty of holding the trigger a little more

Took like 3 bursters to the face

Nothing that my 452 HP can't take

[strong gulch]

Some of those were not pushable

I was trying to hop down of a ledge then a burster boomed me back up.

lmao

[drifting ferry]

I feel like it's annoying to ask the question most ask but can I have any help for a psyker build

[nocturne dust]

Definitely on purpose

[strong gulch]

staff or gun?

[upper sun]

hey its okay we reported a bug thats better than anything else we could have done that game

[drifting ferry]

I think I'd love a staff but I don't have one yet

[upper sun]

what do you like we can build around it

[strong gulch]

Are you leveling or 30?

[drifting ferry]

So far from starting I have 4 talent points and that's about it LMAOO

I might not be high enough even for a build

[upper sun]

i wouldnt bother with builds until you're level 30 tbh

[strong gulch]

Gotcha. Then assail will be your friend while leveling.

[nocturne dust]

I would recommend experimenting while you level. Just try stuff.

Assail is strong for levelling if you need it, yeah.

[upper sun]

just keep switching out weapons and try all the weapons you get from emperors gifts

[drifting ferry]

I love the uh blast sword or something so far

Emperors gift you say

[strong gulch]

Staves have really wide scaling and are pretty poopie. Low state staves don't really represent high investment staves.

[nocturne dust]

the force sword or the force greatsword?

[worthy wasp]

Dclaw is goated on psyker

[upper sun]

yeah you get a random weapon or curio after finishing a mission

[nocturne dust]

Parry propaganda

[drifting ferry]

Force sword i think is what it's called

[cloud night]

I agree

[nocturne dust]

If Devil's Claw is so great, why is there no Force Devil's Claw?

[drifting ferry]

Also I do like dclaw parry ngl

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark should let me parry bullets

[worthy wasp]

Legit throw up bubbles, staff everything, and if stuff gets in your face dclaw is the answer

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

tru

[cloud night]

Ok obi wan

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/deflect-mob-psycho100-power-gif-15431115

[worthy wasp]

10 crushers and 1000 ragers got you backed into a corner? Eventually youll be able to dclaw your way out of it

[nocturne dust]

I mean, technically true with any loadout if you're skilled enough

[worthy wasp]

Just keep up bubble and clap all the cheeks

[nocturne dust]

Although, parry and overheads can be cheeky

The crusher about to overhead you and your parry gets consumed by random poxwalker #198354 0.0001 seconds before the overhead lands

[worthy wasp]

P sure this is being fixed in the upcoming patch

[strong gulch]

That'd be cool.

Dclaw enjoyers rejoice

[nocturne dust]

no?

[worthy wasp]

Patch notes for dclaw

[nocturne dust]

The parry block does not block overheads

same as any block

(other than Shieldgryn)

[worthy wasp]

Nah, parry is the answer

[cloud night]

Could've sworn I parried an overhead the other day on zeal (cost all the stamina for it)

[worthy wasp]

Riposte will have .5secs instead of .2

[jovial juniper]

The De 🗣️

[worthy wasp]

It parries the overhead

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[worthy wasp]

And stam isnt an issue

Use peril to block

And quell peril on weakspot

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[nocturne dust]

You can parry an overhead, but you can't block the overhead when in the parry animation

[cloud night]

Best writing

[nocturne dust]

meaning the passive blocking you get while in the parry animation does not block overheads

so if your parry happens to get consumed by anything else before the crusher's smackdown, u ded

[worthy wasp]

Ahh I understand

[nocturne dust]

The only reason parry is usable is that passive blocking tho, used to not have it and you'd basically just be opening yourself up to damage any time you weren't dueling a lone enemy

Overheads being difficult to properly handle with parry isn't a bad thing either imo

[worthy wasp]

Yeah, now you just gotta be careful with ragers. But after buff the block frames will keep you safe vs anything not an overhead

[nocturne dust]

careful with ragers
Me literally spamming parry and doing nothing else:
https://youtu.be/0jd_cVHxR3E

I can't use Devil's Claw in high difficulties tho, same issue with FGS, I have too much fun with the melee and forget I'm supposed to be using a ranged weapon

[fiery stratus]

Anyone wanna do auric?

[drifting ferry]

Am I allowed to use sabers

A saber on a psyker sounds kinda cool

[fiery stratus]

Duelling swords? Sure, people might have some comments but thats just because the duelling swords are the most broken weapons in the game rn

[verbal thistle]

The dueling sword is the best weapon in the game rn

every weapon is viable in this game

no need to worry what you bring

just dont bring smite

[untold oasis]

smite is god tier tho

[verbal thistle]

thats the problem

I dont want to fight enemies that are standing still

I like to engage my enemies

I just kill my smite spamming teammates

[untold oasis]

oh so its what you prefer

i see

[fiery stratus]

The problem with smite is how it puts your teammates to sleep every game

[cloud night]

Somewhere out there some reddit nerd is screaming that ur a griefer!!!11@111

[drifting ferry]

I have heard alot of bad about smite lmao

[verbal thistle]

Smite can easily shut down a game

stun every enemy and make the mission brain dead

[fiery stratus]

Smites very good but its brainless and does insane damage over time

[verbal thistle]

I dont play darktide to play a walking game

[drifting ferry]

I did just unlock a void blast stave and the saber but thier so expensive smh

[verbal thistle]

Its easily S++ teir for ability

its broken strong

[fiery stratus]

the problem is it takes absolutely no effort at all and people want to hit every single group of enemies, and have the team follow them like lost puppies for the work

boring as fuck

[drifting ferry]

I think i might go full right side for psyker

[fiery stratus]

Right side with scriers gaze and disrupt destiny is moreso for voidstrike and melee/gun builds

[drifting ferry]

Does it make sense to have. Saber and stave

Well the idea of void crystals i think is what it said sounds cool to me

[fiery stratus]

Duelling sword with staves is good, but if youre gonna do a staff, the voidstrike is the only one that benefits from the left side of the tree

right*

Left side is for the other staves

[drifting ferry]

Honestly I've no clue what build I'm doing smh thus game so far is quite confusing

[cloud night]

i had 2 smykers on my team on the catwalk map, the one with the swagger guy, best use of that corner barrel i had in weeks

[fiery stratus]

psyker is the worst character pick for being newer, hardest to play and yeah less straight forward skill tree

[brazen rampart]

I'd argue vet is harder.

[fiery stratus]

No

[drifting ferry]

This one new guy i was with did middle tree and lightning which looked cool

[brazen rampart]

Psyker gets assail at level 4 for leveling.

[fiery stratus]

Voice of command by default makes it harder

Psyker is still a lot squishier than under leveled vet though, which is a big thing learning dodging

[brazen rampart]

You mean easier?

[fiery stratus]

makes psyker harder because vet has voc

[brazen rampart]

Right.

Well, see, psyker has assail at level 4.

Way faster than vet gets anything good.

All vets good talents sit at the bottom of the tree.

Or at the very least underneath an aura.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but defense is king for noobs

[fiery stratus]

i mean vet gets shredders at the same time, and they're not exactly balanced. They're not always on demand like assail, but they're still brainless

[brazen rampart]

The best defense is good offense.

[nocturne dust]

noobs

do not

care

[brazen rampart]

Valid.

[fiery stratus]

id say psyker probably still has to work harder to stay alive/keep toughness up pre abilities. Vet has a few passive ones through combat and whatnot at least

[strong gulch]

@fiery stratus Did y'all start yet? I ate a snack and am feeling a little less mentally fatigued. So I can try a least a game.

[fiery stratus]

@strong gulch got pulle dinto one late, gonna help pull rescue quick themm ima leave

[strong gulch]

u can finish

https://discord.gg/rPPatmPt

[strong gulch]

Here's some stuff for staff builds
#psyker-class message

[pure karma]

Random question, for the psyker penance that consist in throwing 7 lucky fellow to meet grandpa, what mission would you recomend?

[verbal thistle]

Chasm log. 1st main bridge as a 1 person wide side bridge

[pure karma]

Sweet, i got 7 tickets all included that i need to serve.

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[cloud night]

Ye hab dreyko is where I did mine

On that railing, pipe, bridge thing

[pure karma]

Lol why is so dam hard to do that cliff penance. I swear

[wooden sand]

Find mission bridge open

Make heretics fall

With especial shout pysker boom

Is that clear?

[restive slate]

Psyker peril boom? OK!!!

[pure karma]

Cystal clear, still wondering why i´m dumb enough to make it difficult to myself lmao

[brazen rampart]

You can use smite to get it done the easiest.

Rmb smite will throw enemies towards the center of your screen when you let it go.

[strong gulch]

You can control the direction of the smite throw. Can even throw them sideways.

A lot of people have difficulty with cliffhanger.

At least it's 7 enemies and not 20.

[restive slate]

I got it by accident with Trauma staff blasting enemies at a spawn door once haha

Voidblast*

[pure karma]

Dam, lucky haha

[drifting steeple]

me, playing psyker as my first class

[cloud night]

Literally my first pick and it fit as snug as a glove

I had a harder time adapting to Vet tbh

Cant really explain why

[plucky flax]

Only really pro players can play psykers (not me)

[cloud night]

Rather juggle peril management than race for ammo
I say as I hypocritically have 2 gunker loadouts

[mental rock]

I wouldnt say it's the hardest to play, but it does have the highest skill floor imo

[nocturne dust]

is it high skill floor that is easy to play or low skill floor

[azure parcel]

low

[cloud night]

The only pep talk anybody needs to do good in game

[nocturne dust]

Hm, I've heard it the other way, where high skill floor = easy to play

[clear heath]

then you've heard wrong

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, a google shows mixed results

10/10 Englishing internet, literally all over again

[dull scroll]

It's the easy to start hard to master thing

which could very well be true, consider people lvl with assail 😂

[nocturne dust]

I mean, assail makes aiming easy

but that's like the easiest thing

🤷‍♂️

[azure parcel]

think of it logically -- if something has a low floor, high ceiling, it is easy to play, hard to master. But if it has a high floor, it needs more effort to play.

[nocturne dust]

If something has a high floor, low ceiling, there is little room for improvement (easy to play)

Either way can be thought of logically

[azure parcel]

no, it means that the baseline skill requirement is high, but once you have it, there is limited scope for skill expression beyond that

I can't actually think of anything off hand that is high floor low ceiling

most things that are high floor are ALSO high ceiling

[clear heath]

charge blade in monster hunter comes to mind

[dull scroll]

the only toxic player I've ever met in this game, was when I first brought it and lvl'ing the psyker with assail
dude flipped out over that skill like some people would over smite, and refuse to advance until group vote kicked
there was a vote, and then he got kicked

[clear heath]

because 90% of the difficulty is just learning the controls but then it's like a basic flowchart after

[azure parcel]

I never could get much into MH so I will take your word for it

[nocturne dust]

I've never touched Monster Hunter

[clear heath]

anyways, check out how broken autopistol illisi psyker is!
#darktide-pics-vids message

(god this gun sucks)

[nocturne dust]

Average Gunker telling you how great guns are on Psyker

[azure parcel]

impressive af play but lmao at the gun's damage

[clear heath]

yeah it's moreso proving that I dont need a good gun instead of proving the gun is good

It's nice as a fast drawing and quick reloading trapper killer

well, only because i'm too lazy to click for laspistol instead

[dense wolf]

How fix Spark head from not going boom?

[strong gulch]

Laspistol should just keep shooting if you hold down the button.

[strong gulch]

Don't do a peril attack at 100% and quell.

[clear heath]

can't wait for those autopistol buffs

[nocturne dust]

Never use anything that generates peril

[dense wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

[clear heath]

probably still won't be good, but at least it wont feel like actual torture when shooting anything other than a squishy specialist

[dense wolf]

So how prevent

Oh

Nvm

[nocturne dust]

It prevents

[dense wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1353255250823221359/tenor_27.gif

[dense wolf]

Warp: 1, pysker: 0

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[dense wolf]

I must get my psyker maxed

Without going boom..

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the secret sauce is downloading peril gauge and also Empyric Resolve

[dense wolf]

So

https://tenor.com/view/realkimroro-kitten-mimi-find-cat-gif-15834336384927769162

[azure parcel]

the what

[nocturne dust]

Peril gauge mod

Very gud, very helpful

[azure parcel]

will get that

I've been trying to edge peril and occasionally I boom

[nocturne dust]

The gauge makes it many times easier to tell how much peril you have without your brain having to compute numba