#psyker-class

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strong gulch
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illisi is poop against crushers but great on hordes.

deft stump
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Illisi is horde clear.

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You use the Strike to blast the cans instead.

strong gulch
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There 3 mks of force sword

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Voidstrike is for elites first and foremost.

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also specials

restive depot
strong gulch
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cans = crushers

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voidstrike is good at killing them

verbal thistle
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if their hp goes down to 0 they die

strong gulch
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true fact

restive depot
verbal thistle
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I saw it happen

deft stump
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Bowling ball shooters is still funni though.

verbal thistle
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its real

plucky flax
raven mountain
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Inferno+duelist is actually wildly versatile. Duelist (ds) is all about mobility, but it's also pretty good at dealing with crushers and maulers.

Inferno staff goes through bulwark shields and has infinite cleave, so you're always good at hordes. It's also solid into monsters.

Your primary weakness with that loadout is gunners, reapers, and snipers. If for some reason no one else is dealing with one, you can always brain burst it.

It's honestly a super versatile loadout.

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Oh, and ragers are staggered by your inferno staff primary fire.

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Just have to learn the slide dodges (and rely on empathetic evasion) to handle the odd shooters until you close with them or someone deals with it.

restive depot
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Ik there isn’t any ‘best build’ and it’s about your own ability to play, but is this an easier build for high level? I am STRUGGLING with being swarmed in maelstrom

raven mountain
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I do like the Greatsword for electro staff, voidstrike (bowling balls), reconlas, and bolt pistol so you don't get horded.

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Inferno and Voidblast with bubble are the primary Meta builds.

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Both staves destroy hordes.

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Voidblast also staggers armor and ragers to boot. Just charge it up all the way.

restive depot
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Gotcha

raven mountain
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If you're still having issues being killed by hordes with either of those, you're missing core gameplay mechanics.

restive depot
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I think I’m gonna run inferno, mainly because it carries in vision reduction missions 💔

raven mountain
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Learning to block, dodge, and slide dodge.

restive depot
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On that note, what perks should I run on the duelist?

raven mountain
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That's a mostly unimportant reason to pick it, fwiw.

deft stump
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Honestly, Skill>>>Loadout. Ainz runs TacAaxe and Shredder Autopistol and can solo carry most aurics anyway.

raven mountain
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Idr what people say to run. The dodge crit and the dodge finesse?

I like agile and uncanny, but if I'm running duelist, it's mostly for the mobility.

deft stump
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I mean, he solos hard mode twins for people.

restive depot
raven mountain
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Yeah, but you're basically telling him to be as good as Ainz and it won't matter, lol

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Having a solid loadout that has answers to any enemy is a good place to start figuring out the skill.

deft stump
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But is more, you don't really need to follow builds if you find something you are comfortable with.

raven mountain
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Like, bringing an autopistol and a heavy sword will leave you crying as soon as you find a single crusher or armored rager.

deft stump
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It's really all about the feel.

restive depot
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I hate using the guns (totally not because I suck at aiming)

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I like the versatility of the inferno anyway

deft stump
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I mean, with a hint of common sense with what you run with.

raven mountain
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But yeah. Once you find something you like, you'll get more comfy. And if it has answers to most enemy types, then you won't be left hoping someone else solves it.

plucky flax
deft stump
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You'll never do as well if you play something you feel off or uncomfortable with.

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It just doesn't work right.

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Click right?

restive depot
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Sure

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Thanks guys 🔥🔥

deft stump
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Oh and btw, you can post images now.

strong gulch
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red role

deft stump
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Just not in general.

strong gulch
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pic time

raven mountain
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Yeah. Most games I will always suggest to start with something Meta to figure out what makes it good and to get more mechanically comfy before subverting it.

Like, I wouldn't recommend a bleed+fire shotty build to him, but I might for you or me, yk?

restive depot
deft stump
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And no, I was literally playing melee zealot till it got unlocked.

raven mountain
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But long range bleed AND fire! That pierces through horde!

deft stump
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So yeah, lul.

restive depot
raven mountain
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Make'm burn and bleed. And then yell at them until they're on other fire too!

deft stump
raven mountain
strong gulch
restive depot
deft stump
plucky flax
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Bistol praisesun

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They should make it pierce as much as plasma whatthefuck_heresy

restive depot
raven mountain
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If you're pretty intent on playing that type of build, this is how I'd tweak it.

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Prolly run fgs for melee and bistol for ranged.

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Though I wouldn't invest so much into BB and I'd rather run bubble instead of double wall.

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But I didn't want to change the spirit of what you had.

plucky flax
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Ee without crit weapon pog

strong gulch
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Psychic Leeching is poop compared to other options and if you do EP BB and shield, don't do bubble.

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Do double wall for the the KR stacking.

deft stump
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Excuse me, you have enough luck with BP to boomies heds.

strong gulch
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Otherwise just go shirek.

deft stump
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At least on my Melee 'nadier vet.

raven mountain
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I wouldn't focus on BB with bubble in general. I'd just take kinetic flayer and only use BB incidentally.

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And fgs gets like 17% crit chance without the aura. It's enough to dodge some shots while fighting horde.

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And there's the crit on hit for it, too.

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And if I don't take EE with fgs, I can really feel it, personally.

strong gulch
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Inferno is assumed. Shirek or double wall.

EP BB is a BB build. If you never use it, then EP is silly.

raven mountain
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However, I often take bubble and KF in builds and run all kinds of stuff.

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Not saying to try to run ep bb with bubble

strong gulch
raven mountain
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And the build I linked is 99% what yours was. You grabbed Wildfire and Quietude, while I grabbed Psychic Leeching and +15 toughness.

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My advice to him was solid.

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I just wanted to say I prefer builds that don't focus as hard on BB and make use of bubble instead.

restive depot
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Major beef in the darktide discord 😭😭

raven mountain
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No. Mostly misunderstanding

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on his or mine, not sure.

deft stump
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I mean, if you asked for builds more meta, this happens.

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I just run whatever I enjoy for a reason.

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They can just blanche at my awful builds I have fun with.

raven mountain
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Either I said something wonky, or he understood what I said wonky. We're mostly agreeing on the builds we're posting.

potent echo
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Is this the grey name guy asking for a build

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I immediately left when I saw that KEKW_ogryn

raven mountain
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Not a grey name anymore

wispy bay
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Anyone down for some funsy game?

potent echo
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Amazing

strong gulch
deft stump
raven mountain
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Yeah, I wouldn't recommend EP BB bubble. The bubble cd is way too long. I almost exclusively take bubble with warp charges.

strong gulch
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Ye

wispy bay
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Hunting ground

strong gulch
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very much that

potent echo
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He wrote BB dps build, I'm not unpacking that

raven mountain
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Honestly, BB might be why he's having trouble with hordes.

strong gulch
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Don't BB hordes

potent echo
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It's impossible to give any sort of gameplay advice via text alone

raven mountain
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Not knowing when to staff/melee horde vs when to BB and pick off targets. That and not knowing all the defensive stuff for BBing inside of danger.

strong gulch
restive depot
plucky flax
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Ep bb is peak don't listen to the haters

restive depot
potent echo
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It's peak I agree

plucky flax
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I burst me own brain

strong gulch
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I have seen newer psykers try to BB hordes

raven mountain
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Like, you can BB inside of a horde against specials

plucky flax
deft stump
strong gulch
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It was a sight to behold

raven mountain
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but you have to be all kinds of dodgey

restive depot
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Usually I just focus on wiping them out with the swords special

wispy bay
restive depot
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The only reason I was getting swarmed was misjudgment on my ability to efficiently dodge out

raven mountain
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Push more.

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That's almost always sound advice, lol

wispy bay
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BB EP kill special so fast that you can get high sb stacks, if you have wild fire, then you don't even need melee.

deft stump
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I went to the bathroom while loading in, lul.

strong gulch
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RIP

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I'm in game

wispy bay
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3/4, anyone else?

raven mountain
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sure

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I can fuck around

strong gulch
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I feel dizzy and dehydrated. I should have taken more water.

deft stump
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So, do you want horrible penance build or normal 'nades?

strong gulch
wispy bay
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Im zealoting, I don't care.

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My FACE IS MY SHIELD

sturdy reef
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We'll all be ogrynning after the patch

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Zealot rework when lmao. Stiff tree and a lot of questionable talents

plucky flax
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After vet

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Left vet keystone lmao

sturdy reef
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Its so bad

radiant frigate
potent echo
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Honestly this is the only game I played to date that changed so much since day1

radiant frigate
deft stump
radiant frigate
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there is no left vet keystone

sturdy reef
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Played beta and everything. Totally different

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I think vet was the strongest on release? My memory is murky

radiant frigate
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having acces to toughness if your own making? game changer

sturdy reef
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BB stopped scaling after diff 3

plucky flax
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Vet autopistol / instant reload bolter pog

sturdy reef
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Literally couldnt 1 tap a gunner with BB above malice

radiant frigate
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grey power sword with multiple swings outperforming other classes' upgraded weapons

sturdy reef
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All I remember was spamming electro staff rmb

radiant frigate
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vets also having 200 base toughness

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insane class

sturdy reef
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Oh yeah, that

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I forgot

radiant frigate
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and fucking

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camouflage

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stand still become immune to boolet

sturdy reef
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Psyker was considered the weakest at release I think because you only had BB and vent had no SB talent

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And BB was even worse

radiant frigate
plucky flax
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It was just harder to play

potent echo
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Nah the one that gave you 90% TDR while in yellow vision

radiant frigate
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something like "1 stack per warp charge" which you only got from BB kills

plucky flax
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It was never bad

potent echo
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There's was a certain point where quelling was absolutely ass

plucky flax
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Easiest psyker playstyle back then was surge right click spam minimal charge stun bot

sturdy reef
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Yes

plucky flax
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But now you can do it with a blitz

sturdy reef
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I played that

radiant frigate
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also! let's not forget melee enemies at release

plucky flax
sturdy reef
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BB couldnt one tap shit

potent echo
radiant frigate
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you eat an overhead and just go "ok and?" because toughness absorbed it

potent echo
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The more things change

radiant frigate
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havoc brought the release experience back

sturdy reef
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U know what, it kinda did

radiant frigate
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you can once again get turned into swiss cheese by trash shooters

sturdy reef
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Oh god

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Now Im getting flashbacks

potent echo
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I wished they leaned a little more into aggroing shooters into melee on high difficulty

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Now it's just bring assail or cry

radiant frigate
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release, when the scariest thing you could run into whem clutching was check notes a bunch of trash shooters taking cover?

potent echo
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No

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A shotgunner from 1 room away when he didn't have range dropoff

plucky flax
potent echo
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Tru

radiant frigate
potent echo
plucky flax
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Current

radiant frigate
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havoc

plucky flax
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But if you get looked at by reaper and your toes are outside the bubble you die

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50 yellow toughness didn't mean much to big machine gun guy

radiant frigate
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i generally try to avoid being looked at

potent echo
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I see HP still 200 so not even high havoc, reapers whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
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It's h40. I'm running 3 hp curios

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Although above 31 it won't matter with emperors light 2

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I blame karien late in the book to cc the reaper

hot hamlet
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Can someone explain me the momentum for charged attacks with duelling sword or any other for when you do with sprinting?

plucky flax
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What do you mean? Faster move tech?

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@marble crater nice German gnome

radiant frigate
plucky flax
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Bro is pooping out money maybe I should try that

strong gulch
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Behold

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@raven mountain Hogged all of the SB. Dang shriek doing shriek things.

raven mountain
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If I'd known you were doing a blazing spirit, I could have done no shriek!

plucky flax
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That sword is too based

wispy bay
plucky flax
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Maybe 1 day trauma blazing spirits can also be that strong

strong gulch
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Meme build

raven mountain
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Yeah, I was doing kinda memey builds too--but I was keeping them to stuff I've played that is still good.

wispy bay
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Real meme is to use Obscurus and not Illisi.

radiant frigate
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obscurus is no longer meme

strong gulch
wispy bay
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I know, but it has the stab crit and burns.

plucky flax
strong gulch
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I wish bloodthirsty was crits for 5s on weapon special kill again.

radiant frigate
plucky flax
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The heavy 2 on deimos is too powerful

wispy bay
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I play orgryn so much with without using blitz that I forget to use my friendly rock.

radiant frigate
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illisi was never heard from again after The Incident (warp splitting)

strong gulch
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In my hands, deimos is way stronger... but I am noob with obscurus.

plucky flax
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I use illisi on my surge creeping flames spam still

wispy bay
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Deimos H2 is probably the strongest single attack hit in the game.

strong gulch
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IDK how I used to fight hordes with it.

plucky flax
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Deimos heavy 2 against scab captain putting him on his ass xd

radiant frigate
plucky flax
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Powerful move

strong gulch
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Funny move

wispy bay
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Thunder hammer needs special assist.

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And many zealot perks.

strong gulch
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force hammer

wispy bay
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Deimos H2 special is something, but you don't use it.

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It might break the game.

deft stump
plucky flax
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Recon las?

deft stump
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Yes.

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I mean, what other gun do I have that isn't a bolt pistol?

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Oh, Zarona Revolver.

raven mountain
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That's how I'd set it up. If I could squeeze out one more point, I'd grab the monster/ogryn damage

wispy bay
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You don't need to use outlaugh for recon las to be honest.

plucky flax
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Ye im over with onslaught

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Just melee crushers

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(Don't get slammed)

wispy bay
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All of the time I run recon las vet in H40 with you guys, I don't use onslaught.

wispy bay
plucky flax
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Ds and plasma gun no nerf btw PeepoHappy

azure parcel
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js

raven mountain
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It's a specific consideration. I like right side for myself

deft stump
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So uhh, anyone for help with getting that 5x 20 sec exe stance thing?

wispy bay
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The only ways to do that it to get good, really.

plucky flax
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Wow pls no flame

wispy bay
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Well, just need to get good to do that penance. After that, return to monkey.

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It happened to me.

plucky flax
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You don't diss havoc 40 ready player pepeGun

hot hamlet
plucky flax
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Yeah you heavy attack then slide

hot hamlet
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so first heavy then slide

plucky flax
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Sprint charge heavy release heavy press crouch

hot hamlet
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now thats complicated

plucky flax
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Try around in the meatgrinder. It's pretty easy. Easier with toggle sprint than hold to sprint imo

hot hamlet
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but I dont really get it

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how exactly do you do that could you elaborate please?

plucky flax
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Practice with a light attack sprint slide first then

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So sprint around, then press left click. Just after left click you press the crouch button to initiate a slide

hot hamlet
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so the idea here to add the momentum from attacking to the sliding?

plucky flax
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Yeah and save your stamina in the process since sliding doesn't consume stamina like sprinting

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Some attacks lunge the character forward

hot hamlet
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so the idea here is to save more stamina or actually faster movements?

plucky flax
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As you save stamina you move faster since you can sprint more

potent echo
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You can basically sprint for free (stamina neutral)

hot hamlet
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does the lunge makes you move faster or it's just for conserving stamina

plucky flax
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It depends on weapon. Heavy sword is probably just slightly slower or equal to sprint. On knife it makes you go faster than regular sprint

hot hamlet
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my question was regarding to duelling sword

plucky flax
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Its on par

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But think of it like free stam

hot hamlet
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okay so Im in meatgrinder and repeating this process

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but do I need stamina regen to pull this move?

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because my stamina doesnt start to replenish

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when Im sliding

plucky flax
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No you can still sprint with 0 stam

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It's just slower sprint

hot hamlet
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hmm

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so then the point is to move more distance with less stamina consumed?

plucky flax
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Cut the story short it does make you get from a to b faster if you do it

hot hamlet
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yeah sounds useful

plucky flax
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Also dodging bullet when sliding so it's also useful for running away

hot hamlet
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yeah so does it matter which button to press sooner?

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like releasing the attack then sliding

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it needs to be perfectly timed?

plucky flax
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Nah its very forgiving. Just slide after you release your left mouse button

hot hamlet
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alright I guess Im doing it

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dunno if I do it successfully tho

potent echo
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Just zoom around the training area you'll get the hang of it

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You basically won't lose stamina over time

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It's alot easier if you have hold instead of toggle to crouch

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I just tap the crouch button after attacking

hot hamlet
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I just realized that I start sprinting as soon as I start sliding is that a bad thing?

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should I wait for sliding animation

potent echo
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No it's fine

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I just hold sprint the whole time

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I have like a really old clip of it uhhh

plucky flax
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I use cheat mod to make me forward slide easier SadgeCry

hot hamlet
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shift + control is very hard to manage in situations

potent echo
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It got deleted KEKW_ogryn

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I bind crouch to mouse 4

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You would normally press that button way too much

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Probably more than block tbh

hot hamlet
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also I have my nades on mouse 4

potent echo
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I changed blitz to 3

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I prefer 1/2/3 I'm just old fashioned 👴

hot hamlet
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its hard to use knife throw for zealot

potent echo
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True

hot hamlet
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with those keybinds so mouse 4 fits perfectly

wind spruce
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Trauma will be fine, it doesn't need quell cancelling

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(That's what you meant right?)

wind spruce
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Dodge to shift chadgryn

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Sprint to ctrl

strong gulch
wind spruce
plucky flax
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I use knife throw with g i think that's default blitz?

wind spruce
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I never take my fingers off WAD

strong gulch
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I don't recommend knife throw on mouse scroll.

Especially if it throws 2 knives even if you make sure it's only one click. 😭

marble crater
uncut sinew
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goated.

marble crater
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Zealot looks nice, rest is slop Sitgryn

strong gulch
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New slop?

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Or still orc something or other?

marble crater
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New (old) slop

wispy bay
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I play with ESDF
ability on A
Blitz on H
weapon special G
Reload T
Quick switch W

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It transfers some of the work from the index finger to the ring finger. Also easier to reach the right side of the board on other games.

upper sun
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RAAAA NEW SLOP

deft stump
upper sun
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excuse me ill be the judge of that

strong gulch
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I own these already. Guarded

upper sun
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wow they fucking suck

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the peesword skin is ok and cheap

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but i dont play peesword

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@buoyant maple peesword skin

uncut sinew
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tiger pants back on shop when

strong gulch
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I should clarify that I mean the psyker clothes is what I own. No way I'm buying a whole rotation.

upper sun
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i want the chaplain masks from sm2

strong gulch
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After ogryn update with everyone playing, if DT does NOT put the leopard print pants up then they made a HUGE mistake.

uncut sinew
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agreed.

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riots will start if no tiger pants

cosmic sigil
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new drip?

uncut sinew
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poopoo drip

cosmic sigil
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noo

uncut sinew
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yes

strong gulch
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New rotation of repeats.

uncut sinew
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love it.

strong gulch
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Not even recolors.

buoyant maple
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I prefer cerulus

strong gulch
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Unless you count the psyker helm colors getting edited after buying it as a recolor.

I think it had something to do with lighting and shadow changes, but FS never bothered adjusting the colors back.

upper sun
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🚬 they should have like a bargain bin

uncut sinew
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all i want is my tiger pants and a black & purple FGS skin

uncut sinew
upper sun
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id love a place where they bring back like 10 random cosmetics

strong gulch
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They had green and purple revolver skins. So they CAN do those for FGS.

upper sun
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not even full sets just random stuff from before 😭

uncut sinew
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in about 1-2 years, yes

strong gulch
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No clue

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Probably before they fix the fake +3 stam curios. Also probably before they fix cleave damage stat not working on flak.

paper pawn
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All I ever want from the rotation is the Moebian Blaze Force Sword skin and I don't think it's ever gonna happen

upper sun
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i got on my zealot yesterday and i found one of my curios randomly removed

jovial juniper
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reveals buffs for Shredder Auto Pistol
Sells SAP skin

upper sun
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idk how else to explain it

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i havent played that zealot in a long time since yesterday and one curio was randomly missing

marble crater
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Still going with that excuse I see

upper sun
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yes

upper sun
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i dont 🐝 🍃 u

deft stump
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I lost a curio on my Zealot before.

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Build complained about something went wrong with one of them.

upper sun
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theres a curio thief....

strong gulch
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Maybe inventory order reset and you deleted something you didn't mean too?

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*to

deft stump
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I don't delete curios back then lul.

upper sun
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🤔

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idk

marble crater
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That character felt neglected and deleted it, if you are not careful the weapons are next

deft stump
marble crater
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And now you mostly spam nades with your vet staregryn

upper sun
marble crater
deft stump
upper sun
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😭

plucky flax
upper sun
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level 8 is NOT enough

deft stump
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Cos I hate playing Oggy rn.

upper sun
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no

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you carry

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we play a normal private game then you and potato swap at the end

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you dont have to play ogryn to level ogryn

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just leave and rejoin with a new char at the end

deft stump
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Nu. Potato, wanna just commit sudoku to twins for next 2 hours?

upper sun
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😭 shameful

jovial juniper
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Well if y'all need a fourth Oggy

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Hmu in 8 hours

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I will be on red ammo 75% of the match

deft stump
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I don't even have the ability to chug coffee like normies.

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Unless I wanna nap for an extra 5 hours.

marble crater
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5 hours is not a nap

uncut sinew
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boy was i wrong

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i regret my decision to not buy them to this day

marble crater
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Sure would be nice if they didn't have a rotation and you could give fatshark your money whenever you felt like it, huh?

uncut sinew
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yes.

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petition to make this happen

jovial juniper
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Yes indeed

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I do feel like buying something for my ogryn

deft stump
jovial juniper
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But at the same time I don't want to justify this store format

deft stump
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They will get an arcana worth of money I'll scrounge up for.

jovial juniper
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So I'm freemaxxing despite not wanting to

deft stump
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I just spent the Imperium edition stuff atm lul.

marble crater
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Whenever Darktide is not on Gamepass anymore I will also buy that staregryn

deft stump
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Heh.

copper jay
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FGS vs Force Sword Deimos Vs Force Sword Obscurus, what are your arguments for each ?

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For a Blaze Voidblast/sometimes Rending Voidblast, build

marble crater
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Deimos because it has more mobility than FGS and has great single target damage, which is what you generally want if you use voidblast staff

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FGS is good, but Voidblast is already a less mobile staff, so I wouldn't also pick a less mobile melee weapon

copper jay
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Thanks !

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Yes FGS seems way better for gunker than staff Psyker

marble crater
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I use it with EK sometimes, because EK is more mobile gameplay wise

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And I think I will start using Deimos more instead of Dueling Sword, to prepare for the inevitable nerfs KEKW_ogryn

jovial juniper
#

Knowing FS they'll nerf single target damage slightly
Then add better horde clear

echo root
#

Nerf Dueling Sword cleave smug

deft stump
jovial juniper
#

4.5 cleave lights

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When knife and taxes have 3 or less

#

Kinda weird

echo root
#

Yeah DS just has it all.

#

Should have stayed a Psyker exclusive weapon #changemymind

#

Very stupid giving it to Zealot and Vet.

young summit
#

Agree

deft stump
#

@paper dust Got home, silly girl ran up to me.

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Took awhile before I remembered to post the lil gremlin so... lul.

analog agate
#

I have started running obscurus on my VB build and deimos on EK build in preparation for the ds nerf haha.

deft stump
#

I'm still Illisi or FGS depending for psyker anyway.

fiery stratus
deft stump
vapid monolith
marble crater
patent mango
marble crater
analog agate
#

Best psyker staff makes it so it isn’t slop

marble crater
#

Do I want a staff skin loregryn

ebon sonnet
#

I thought the staff skin doesn't grow back?

patent mango
#

i mean im not buying any comestic stuff cause no regional pricing anyways lol

uncut sinew
#

bought this the moment i saw it, no regrets, best staff skin imo

analog agate
#

I didn’t bother with weapon skins cause of weapon custom mod. But it was/is too unstable for me to use it

uncut sinew
#

same, i used to have it, not anymore though

#

crashes the game too often

paper dust
young cliff
#

What recon Mk and other guns are solid for a gunker?

barren arch
#

I really liked weapon customization but I got really frustrated with how often my game would crash with it

#

so I just stopped

paper dust
#

AH A SKAVEN

barren arch
#

besides, main reason I ran it was cus I wanted to give the Helbore a usable scope

north tartan
#

My weapon customization has only crashed my game twice and made my loading times bad

barren arch
paper dust
young cliff
analog agate
#

I see we all have the same experience haha.

barren arch
analog agate
#

No matter which version I have used over the years. Game just crashed more

barren arch
#

but I do wish we get a longlas

marble crater
#

Do staff skins make you play better?

barren arch
#

yes

#

you should spend all your money now

young cliff
#

+20% more warp speed charge

barren arch
#

paint them all red so they charge faster

analog agate
#

That staff skin in the store right now is red which makes me go faster

marble crater
#

If it works for the Orks...

fierce torrent
#

I started recently leveling a psyker and Im going through this guide https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959 nice stuff so far, but Im still a bit unsure what path follow and which skills use. Smite seems nice for CC, Ive tried some staffs like the inferno staff, the void and the electric one. Also,Ive been playing around with venting shriek and the bubble. The second is nice in because I mostly play on pugs and dropping the bubble in some situations is really nice on higher difficulties. Now, other than play what you enjoy, any recommendations?

copper jay
upper sun
brazen rampart
wispy bay
marble crater
brazen rampart
#

Obscurus can kill a crusher almost instantly. H1 and l3 need to land on headshots with some stacks of uncanny and boom, dead crusher.

wispy bay
#

Deimos has the ease of use on single target and the H2 stagger is good, which makes it better than obscurus. Not everything is about damage.

marble crater
#

Deimos also looks better thumbsup_ogryn

brazen rampart
#

Deimos, you kinda gotta chase that ogryn to the floor to kill him after you h2 his noggin.

#

Obscurus just kills him.

young cliff
#

Both weapons are good in my experience, ttk is not so apart but obscurus will Def down things faster in my experience

late sapphire
#

Later on when you push the really high difficulties you can come back for a fully optimized build or whatever (there are quite a few, say, arcane elements like some talents outright not working etc) but until then it doesn't really matter

potent lava
#

smyker is useful boiz

young cliff
#

Question: what guns are good for gunker? Mk2 Las pistol and vrak Autogun seems good but what others are also good?

late sapphire
#

One of the recon lasguns is pretty good

young cliff
late sapphire
#

Revolver and Bolt Pistol are common too, but more as secondaries with the melee being primary

brazen rampart
#

Mk2 laspistol
Blue recon
Vraks inf autogun
Revolvers, both of them
Bistol (maybe)

late sapphire
#

I've also had fun with the shotguns

brazen rampart
#

Oh yeah shotguns are fun asf.

late sapphire
#

Some people (mostly zealot mains) swear by dbarrel + knife psyker

analog agate
brazen rampart
analog agate
prime elk
brazen rampart
prime elk
#

Mk XII slowdown on fire sucks

brazen rampart
#

Went on gameslantern and looked (assuming they updated the names)

prime elk
#

And not to mention Mk VI helps with gunker ammo economy

brazen rampart
young cliff
brazen rampart
#

20% on dd target kill and 20% on warp speed.

young cliff
#

Is the less rapid shooting an issue for infernus stacks?

prime elk
#

You'll stack slower but with SG not a big deal imo

#

And most shit is going to die super quickly anyway

late sapphire
#

Tbh

#

You can swap marks freely

#

Just try em out

#

All of the theorycrafting in the world cant compare to a few games using em

prime elk
#

I still think both are good, but I prefer Mk Vi for psyker whereas on vet it's a tossup

young cliff
#

Still have to make some upgrades to other stuff, but will give each MK a try

late sapphire
#

You should try out a scriers gaze voidstrike build

young cliff
#

I didn't have my hands on a void strike, should I use it like it's a gunker?

late sapphire
#

It's almost a gunker build, just swap out whatever gun specific talents for Warp Unbound and Warp Splitting... voidstrike benefits from all of the bonuses, particularly crits (with the Surge blessing)

copper jay
#

Wait DS was a psyker only weapon before ?

analog agate
#

Correct

upbeat kestrel
copper jay
#

The best melee weapon was a Psyker weapon ???

marble crater
#

That was before we had more melee buffs in the talent tree

#

But yeah, giving it to veteran and especially zealot was a mistake KEKW_ogryn

north tartan
#

I can see vet getting it, but why does zealot?

prime elk
marble crater
#

Is that switching to melee? I don't have that on my controller either

jovial juniper
#

It was pretty good on psyker

prime elk
jovial juniper
marble crater
paper dust
#

get trap

#

everyone dies

#

IMMEDIATLY

#

wtf fart shart

prime elk
analog agate
#

They nerfed it after the big buff. It used to kill muties in one shot without (I believe) any buffs at all

#

Or was it muties along with some others like bulwarks got health increases during an update and ds was unchanged? I can’t remember

marble crater
weary idol
#

because ironically their comically high damage and finesse boosts means the Zarona combat shotty does more or less the same thing

#

but with way more ammo, and better boss damage

analog agate
#

Double barrel was championed by paradise. I don’t know of other zealot players that use it.

prime elk
marble crater
#

Probably got me killed a few times as well, at the very least I lost a lot of health because of it KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
#

Beuh I started building my pc at 1 now it's nearly 7 and still not done. Food break Sitgryn

marble crater
#

Does it usually take that long to build a PC? loregryn

#

I have never built one

analog agate
#

If you have never built one. Yea. It is a work shift affair. It takes 2-3 hours with experience

upper sun
#

agent is just paranoid and checking 4 times before doing anything

marble crater
#

I would probably do that too, he paid good money for it KEKW_ogryn

#

Wouldn't want everything to catch on fire

analog agate
#

You get paranoid. Finish it. Realize you left the IO shield off. F

marble crater
#

Is that like the psyker bubble?

vernal frost
#

make sure to get your hammer for putting in ram sticks

fresh panther
jovial juniper
analog agate
fresh panther
#

Yep a friend of mine building for the first time did it recently ⚰️

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I forgot to plug my CPU pump in when I did my latest personal build, thankfully no real disassembly required for that one but it did scare the shit out of me seeing an i7-13700 running at 500mhz

plucky flax
marble crater
eager horizon
#

Can someone remind me what the old Iconics for Psyker were pre class rework? And if any of them are still active as hidden passives?

dull scroll
#

cable management is the worst

midnight hull
dull scroll
#

doesn't help those things are hard af and hurts your finger tips

midnight hull
upper sun
analog agate
marble crater
plucky flax
analog agate
#

Heyyo. We really do have twinsies build

young cliff
#

what blessings and perks are good on the Mk7 Taxe?

marble crater
#

We need a taxe role for people to ping

young cliff
#

a simple pin could serve...the one in it says is "outdated"

plucky flax
upper sun
#

u can use it till 2027

#

windows 11 bad

plucky flax
#

No im buying windows 11

#

Wtf windows 10 in 2025

upper sun
analog agate
upper sun
plucky flax
#

I use frame gen too

analog agate
#

Then, yea. I go for pretty looking game

clear heath
upper sun
#

switch to windows 10 ltsc iot which has support until 2035

young cliff
#

het folks, have you used Taxes? want suggestions for blessings and perks for it

marble crater
#

What is there to ray trace in Darktide, everything is so dark KEKW_ogryn

analog agate
#

The lighting and mood is actually fantastic in this game haha. Especially with lights out. No joke.

marble crater
jovial juniper
marble crater
#

There is one of them now

jovial juniper
#

But it's usually

#

Shred Brutal Momentum

#

Brutal Momentum Headtaker

#

Headtaker Shred

midnight hull
analog agate
#

You keep saying black on black. I don’t understand

young cliff
marble crater
deft stump
#

I see nothing but the UI.

analog agate
#

Oh. Well, same at points. But since I am a psyker I just spam EK or use VB as flashlight

deft stump
#

Playing it is basically, blind memory of the map.

#

And ping spamming whenever it's safe to figure out what dangers is around since blind.

crisp marsh
#

Smite with venting shriek, is it viable on auric?

jovial juniper
#

Yes pretty much

analog agate
#

Yes. Very

jovial juniper
#

Smite until 86
Shriek

proper osprey
crisp marsh
#

Alr, im tryna adjust a support build, gonna go with a greatsword and either a inferno staff or elecro staff

proper osprey
#

Smiting everything nerfs zealot and vet

deft stump
analog agate
#

If you do smite/shriek I’d recommend electro staff to deal with single targets/bosses

proper osprey
#

This is what I’d run

proper osprey
#

It’s really good if you do that

proper osprey
#

Or smiting disablers

deft stump
#

Like, if I know the risk of being overheaded is too high, I rather have them smited than anything.

proper osprey
#

Kf so mid

#

Er nerfs toughness

marble crater
#

Better than Warp Expenditure Sitgryn

proper osprey
#

I like having all sources of toughness

marble crater
#

I noticed KEKW_ogryn with all those you can safely use ER

proper osprey
#

I love peril gain

#

I love my survivability

marble crater
#

That's fair

proper osprey
#

I always assume I’m gonna have to clutch and that’s what I came up with

analog agate
#

Wasted nodes in that build considering you will be proccing EE a lot

#

Aptly named though

proper osprey
#

I don’t like er because it only only nerfs my toughness but i can’t build it fast enough to make good use of quietude

proper osprey
#

Ok

marble crater
#

I would at least change warp expenditure to KF, because that really doesn't do a lot for toughness and you already have other toughness regen from kills and crits

analog agate
#

Only joking. Besides some nodes I would change it does hit all the good points

marble crater
#

The other two will give you so much that warp expenditure is redundant

proper osprey
#

Yeah you can really put it anywhere I just decided to choose that one

#

It kept me alive in tox gas and rager fun time

marble crater
#

That's good

young cliff
#

So using Assail paired with guns like shotgun or revolver feel like the right call to cover damage to (semi)fodder and use the gun as an elite/specialist killer, but not putting quick shards feels that in Auric difficulty it runs out too quick, and I really can't feel the impact of ethereal shards, what is the consensus on these nodes for assail?

analog agate
#

Taking Warp Splitting will give you the most impact for number or targets assail hits. You can add Ethreal if you have extra nodes. There is a table of the number of assails for everything. Can’t remember which guide/who posted it though

young cliff
#

So ethereal shards isn't that good, what about quick shards? That does feel like it is quite important

analog agate
#

I don’t use quick shards. I use assail as a weave blitz and only mass throw when i am in trouble or a lot of gunners.

deft stump
#

More stuff getting poked in the head per toss gud.

young cliff
#

Was trying to pair it with the "you don't explode for a while" node for gaze, to really save ammo and keep the revolver to one shot the crushers and other nasty jerks that's supposed to take care

#

Maybe with shotgun I can get away with just using assail base since it could have more ammo (combat) or could be used to clear hordes (doubleB)

raven mountain
#

If I'm bothering with assail's opportunity cost, then I'm going to go for the extra pierce and warp splitting.

young cliff
#

Extra pierce+warp splitting is better than quick shards then?

raven mountain
#

I also tend to dump them because in my scrier's builds, I dump with max peril. And in the one build I take assail but not scrier's, I use it as a priority weapon and dump as well. But without scrier's, I also take the extra shard recharge.

#

If you're doing the scrier's thing, then you're not going to be worrying about the recharge because you'll barely use them outside that dump moment.

clear heath
#

I don't bother with extra pierce ever since warp splitting got added
They hit plenty of targets with just splitting. Might not even find enough targets to make use of the pierce node at that point

raven mountain
#

I mean, hordes I play against have more than 5 or 6 guys.

clear heath
#

yeah but if you're dumping assails, a bunch of them will be dying as you throw them out

marble crater
#

Throw more Assail chadgryn

dry ivy
#

question soyker chat

raven mountain
#

Yeah. Throw until the horde is gone. It is literally a damage multiplier for your dps while using assail.

dry ivy
#

venting shriek, does it open up bulwark shields or no

#

i forgor

marble crater
#

whatthefuck_heresy I don't know, and I always play with shriek

raven mountain
#

I mean, it's not a make or break thing to have more piercing. But hordes are thick as you move up in difficulty, and more damage per throw is more horde killed.

marble crater
#

But I am a psyker so I also don't really care about bulwark shields anyway

raven mountain
#

It might at full stacks. I think it is a stronger push at higher peril. But I almost never use it for that purpose.

#

So I'm not sure enough to say without checking.

marble crater
#

I want to say it doesn't

clear heath
#

I mainly use assails for rager packs or spread out shooters, not for trash hordes.
I'm not even convinced the assails will last long enough to hit 7 or so shooters if they're too far apart

raven mountain
#

Yeah. Your use case makes sense.

clear heath
#

If you specifically want horde dps, i get it

young cliff
#

I'm not sure if it's the push that breaks them or damage from it + allies that do the trick, I don't recall them staggering when the Shrek hits but afterwards

raven mountain
#

In my non-scrier's it's my primary horde counter. Bistol and DS4 don't cut it.

#

See horde, spam assail, shriek at 86. Horde solved, and likely flak in the horde too.

#

Bistol for snap sniping. Bistol+assail weave for harder targets to save ammo.

#

Ds4 on armor and ragers. Bistol weave with melee for bleed on monsters.

#

Maybe I pull that build out again. It always felt good to run. I'm just stuck on fgs variants rn.

marble crater
#

Damn FGS, why did it have to be so fun

young cliff
#

I have 3 versions of FGS for different purposes builds, that satisfying is to build and use that weapon

raven mountain
#

Yeah. Love it with EK, with Bistol, with reconlas, with any of the abilities and blitzes.

#

I even have 3 variants for how much peril I want to spend. 31WR, 60WR, and 80WR

young cliff
#

I always have WR as dump, just swapped blessings for more horde clear, crit specialization or raw weak spot damage.

raven mountain
#

Well, I have some shriek builds where the 31WR allows for 90% peril in two throws. (gives some leeway for cooldown before falling under 86%)

And I use the 80% on memey warpshock slash spam builds or the odd scrier's so I can keep my peril lower, longer.

#

In case I need to throw it out during scrier's or to keep my peril lower before going into scrier's.

deft stump
marble crater
#

I force push you into the next barrel

deft stump
#

Though I just EK with unyielding them to death instead.

deft stump
marble crater
#

I need to do it for my penance "Kill 50 teammates with barrels"

raven mountain
#

This game would feel terrible with normal friendly fire.

But I loved the more controlled squad tactics in alien fire team. Setting up defenses and firing lanes.

marble crater
#

Yesterday I barreled myself on Gloriana, because I played zealot for the first time in months and I wasn't used to how long the relic blade is whatthefuck_heresy

raven mountain
#

I have a bad habit of blowing barrels because of warpshock spam.

#

It's so fat that you kinda can't help it. I just try to get ahead and blow barrels before we get there.

marble crater
raven mountain
#

Blasphemy. Fgs is love. Fgs is life.

marble crater
raven mountain
#

Same with voidblast.

deft stump
#

I'm a vet main, if 'nades could set off barrels, it would be chaos.

young cliff
#

Nades don't make barrels explode?!

marble crater
#

Playing with you is already chaos hmmgryn

deft stump
young cliff
#

What the warp?

raven mountain
#

Not smokes!

deft stump
raven mountain
#

Just double smokes and it'll always be fine.

young cliff
raven mountain
#

If there isn't smoke, drop smoke.

deft stump
raven mountain
#

Gotta pretend you're in an obscura den at all times.

deft stump
#

Everyone is now blind.

young cliff
deft stump
marble crater
analog agate
#

Hot take. Native scoreboard is worth the probable increased toxicity

plucky flax
dull scroll
#

pretty 😌

young cliff
marble crater
#

He even has the LGBT lights pogryn

deft stump
analog agate
#

Ohhhh. Much lights. Much bright

marble crater
#

I don't know what it means, but it showed up when I looked for weh

plucky flax
#

Not matching fans cos im broke

#

And im not staring at my pc case

deft stump
deft stump
#

Ezy.

marble crater
plucky flax
deft stump
plucky flax
#

My case is gonna be glass

deft stump
#

Lul.

marble crater
raven mountain
plucky flax
#

My gpu has spinning led lights there

deft stump
#

Only time you see the lights is opening the metal side or peering through the dust cover on top, but BARELY.

upper sun
marble crater
analog agate
plucky flax
#

Ooh flux case right?

raven mountain
#

Though I wish the extended scoreboard were the default. The one with damage types and breakdowns of targets, as well as staggers, ammo, and health/downs.

marble crater
#

CLAD #1RGBHATER

deft stump
#

You ppl have glass sides.

#

Mine is basically METAL.

#

Black metal.

raven mountain
#

I feel like the base scoreboard just doesn't do it, and it has those weird made-up scores that don't mean anything.

deft stump
#

Literally that.

autumn moth
#

detailed stats is just reading tea leaves but with greater confidence chadgryn

plucky flax
#

Need glass case to see rgb

deft stump
plucky flax
#

Okay boomer

marble crater
#

You can only say that if you are younger than her

analog agate
#

Boomer is an attitude. Not an age

deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
#

But probably if younger than 30.

plucky flax
celest valve
#

when everyone else dies and at the scoreboard in the end: zero blocks

crisp marsh
#

Me playing darktide with a gtx 950 💀

marble crater
celest valve
marble crater
#

Impossible, we have shield and EE

#

and smite

celest valve
#

well maybe they would be alive if they right clicked once with a melee weapon

analog agate
#

I actually do rarely block with VB staff.

patent mango
#

no devblog today i think.......

analog agate
#

They still got time. What is it? 1-2 hours before midnight for them KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
#

1 yeah

#

I wouldn't count on it KEKW_ogryn

copper jay
#

Taxe is for Tactical axe ?

strong gulch
marble crater
copper jay
marble crater
burnt breach
#

So what’s the sprint speed when you are on your blitz?

upper sun
#

0%

fiery stratus
upper sun
#

btw

#

im going to see friends dont worry if i dont post for a while

#

someone do MMs in my absence

jovial juniper
marble crater
#

Okay loregryn

deft stump
upper sun
#

hes pretty good

#

he helped me get flesh wound and hard mode twins

jovial juniper
#

I'll be generous and help Ainz with their Hard Mode ranking

#

(Aka ask Ainz to play hard mode with me)

fiery stratus
#

Anyone wanna do mostly melees maelstrom

wispy bay
#

Sure

fiery stratus
wispy bay
#

Time to bonk with shock maul

deft stump
#

Though I'll ruin it with krak spam anyway.

fiery stratus
deft stump
#

Lethal prox krak spam.

fierce surge
#

Trying out blaze force great sword, the blessing wrath, if I use the swords special cut air does the cleave boost it through hordes?

marble crater
#

That's already cleaving everything anyway

#

Should still use wrath though

strong gulch
#

No. The FGS special has infinite cleave. It can even go through walls.

#

It has damage fall off though.

#

If you take FGS into havocs, wrath is very important.

#

Otherwise if you talent tree has warp splitting, wrath isn't needed.

That being said, when in doubt, just put wrath on it.

broken carbon
#

wrath tuah

#

cleave on that thang

marble crater
#

I forgot how much fun it is to knock crushers and maulers on their ass with the deimos h2 KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
#

Chunky thwack sound too.

deft stump
strong gulch
#

I usually run FGS with gun and get warp splitting, so I often have a crit blessing with unstable.

#

That being said, I suck with FGS.

BUT even not being great with it is still effective because FGS strong.

deft stump
#

Deflector Wrath.

strong gulch
#

Havoc coded.

deft stump
#

Nu. Tank DH build.

marble crater
#

If they nerf dueling sword and I use only force swords anymore I could actually use deflector loregryn

dull scroll
#

if they nerf ds I have deimos to fall back on, blessed 😌

raven mountain
#

Even if they nerf it, it'll still do exactly what I want it to do. Provide me with Agile and give me funny dodges.

#

But if they come for my FGS, there'll be blood.

strong gulch
#

nerf DS and boost FGS movement and dodges

raven mountain
#

let fgs wave do up to the 6 stacks of warpfire

#

and make it on crit, then you suddenly have an alternate build. The 15s auto-crit wave and burning spirit rather than the cleave+damage regular swing build.

strong gulch
#

The on crit SB mechanic actually makes sense for FGS.

On crit for regular force swords... 😭

raven mountain
#

at least the regular force swords can stack to like 12 or whatever. 6 feels so bad.

#

Plus, it's not like most things can even survive 4 crits from fgs besides captains and monsters.

strong gulch
#

They can def stack to 12, but rarely does that happen. It's almost like a fable or a myth. Maybe in havocs.

#

Must survive crit. K, let me dump damage and finesse.

raven mountain
#

Nah. Need finesse for attack speed

#

First Target dump

#

I think I have something that'll make you proud.

#

Threw a million at it and got that.

strong gulch
#

It's beautiful. ✨

deft stump
#

It did nothing.

hardy coral
#

Braced autogun on Psyker is kinda cursed, its not that good nor is it bad. MonkaHmm

prime elk
#

Sounds like a terrible idea tbh

strong gulch
#

bad

#

do it if you want but it is poopie

wispy bay
#

If you save assails for long range and use gun for elite horde, it should be fine.

hardy coral
#

thats what im doing, along with Scrier's Gazze

prime elk
hardy coral
#

its not a build im going to use always, im just bored, plus its not bad at clearing hordes or elites either. ha

patent mango
#

braced autogun is one of the guns for sure

prime elk
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exec stance + graia braced is actually pretty fuckin good

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but braced on psyker? 🤮

raven mountain
hardy coral
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  • the 100% cleave scaling with peril. MonkaHmm
deft stump
raven mountain
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Man. Now you got me needing to prove it as good.

potent echo
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Psyker braced whatthefuck_heresy

hardy coral
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thats actually so sad, making it halfway through an Auric Mealstrom as a Psyker and still noone joined. MonaSigh_therues98

vocal sentinel
feral carbon
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btw, does warp splitting still affect assail?

prime elk
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yeh

hardy coral
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i have made it worse.... Double Barrel shotgun Psyker. AHHHH

raven mountain
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Just needed crit build to enable it

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Meme blaze sword+BB(kf)+voidblast. Only whipping out the voidblast when I have guaranteed crit or when there's a crusher/bulwark in front of me. Mostly just churned through things on my own.

dull scroll
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muahahahah

deft stump
cloud night
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All 60 done
Cliffhanger was a nuisance

raven mountain
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Nice!

crisp marsh
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congrats :D

cloud night
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Much obliged

nocturne dust
plucky flax
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I gave up on ogryn penances

potent echo
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Why, do you not have fun shooting 5000 lucky bullets KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
cloud night
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For the otber classes

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Fuck armourbane and the 150 or so backstabs and 500 throwing knife kills tho

deft stump
nocturne dust
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Kinda easy

dull scroll
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other than the 2 private game penances the rest you play enough you just get it

deft stump
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Rest are grindy, but this... this takes the cake trying it solo.

cloud night
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Havent tried that but I assume its a nuisance

patent jacinth
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You just play with them

deft stump
patent jacinth
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And if you’re building zealot right good fucking gods are you playing them

upbeat kestrel
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Same with armour bane

dull scroll
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knives is also the best nade on zealot, very blessed

cloud night
nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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meaning get Many More Try

deft stump
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The only place where there's ppl.

dull scroll
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wait, what you mean solo, can you do penance in that mod?

nocturne dust
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and use expired mission

patent jacinth
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You just get that one by playing

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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You use Many More Try and a mission expired for 8+ hours

deft stump
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And how would a console gamer do it then?

nocturne dust
dull scroll
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ohhh you queue in mission codes not on rotation anymore gotcha

nocturne dust
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Imagine being a console gamer in the year of our PC, 40k

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The God Emperor is a pcmasterrace guy 🙏

weak brook
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I want to react to that with chad ogren, but i'm on xbox

deft stump
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@marble crater Someone is basically mocking console gamers.

nocturne dust
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In seriousness, my advice never applies to consoles