psyker-class

[marble crater]

Aka the better names

[lapis violet]

trauma is the bomb fake projectile

[marble crater]

Voidblast is new name for Trauma

[copper jay]

Sorry I started some weeks ago so I only know the news names for you 😭

@lapis violetI agree with your name

[lapis violet]

purgation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inferno
trauma > voidblast
surge >>>> electrokinetic
voidstrike > whatever it is

[marble crater]

Voidstrike is still voidstrike

[lapis violet]

great, wonderful

[marble crater]

Fatshark moment

[lapis violet]

like when they changed a single veteran talent and 5 of my trees disappeared

[tender yew]

Finally getting around to Psyker, looked through the steam guide and noticed the trauma build. Is that a decent "starter build" to work towards?

[wispy bay]

EK charges the quickest so you can output more damage than others with minimal penalty on mobility.

[vernal temple]

Builds centred around the Trauma/Voidblast staff are great. Specially if you combine it with the bubble shield. great crowd control and survivability

[marble crater]

Trauma is the most tricky staff to aim, just fyi, but sure, there is nothing wrong with the build

[copper jay]

Ludwig Old staff names

purgation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inferno
trauma > voidblast
surge >>>> electrokinetic
voidstrike > Voidstrike

[vernal temple]

just had a scab only, no ammo maelstrom and I'm so glad i went with my trauma build instead of EK lmb spam. got paired with three goons who used up all of their ammo at the start of the mission and kept yelling for more ammo and dying a million times over

[vernal temple]

but hey, when you're revived you start with 50% of your ammo, so I guess that was their strategy? otherwise I can't explain the 13 deaths on a regular heresy maelstrom

one dude was also zoning out and probably AFKing a lot

[marble crater]

I guess that can work, but...

[vernal temple]

I don't mind teammates like this. I just see it as an additional difficulty modifier lol

[lapis violet]

ON HERESY MAELSTROM

[vernal temple]

yup

[wispy bay]

That modifier is the only one that I have fun with shock maul.

Head bonking heavy all day

[lapis violet]

hab dreyko is probably the worst, or at least the 2nd worst, mission to be doing with a team who cannot for the life of them defend a single person

[vernal temple]

there's a mod that highlights the correct circle you need to select in the hab dreyko auspex puzzle

[lapis violet]

so more mods that should be classified as cheating

[marble crater]

Just get a mod that does it for you at that point

[weary idol]

yeah

[lapis violet]

which defeats the whole purpose of the mission being difficult for people who don't play as a team

which is the rewarding feeling of managing to overcome what feels like the impossible

the only few mods which i accept as things the game should already have are: scoreboard, weapon and fashion customization, hud customization, the mod which shrinks talent trees so they're more compact to look at

[vernal temple]

or you can just have the ogryn/zealot do the puzzle since they cannot be interrupted

[lapis violet]

if only we had an ogryn, if only we had a zealot actually following objectives

we had an EK psyker and a gunker

a crusher zealot focused on killing hordes, which was done fine but i still had to help

and me as the voc recon las vet (i get it, i get it... i was using antax and not rashad though)

(antax is actually great)

[vernal temple]

Rashad is better tho

[marble crater]

And mods that provide information that's already in the game, but in a different way. For example tell you when a special spawned, if you have problems hearing. Or show you where a special is when you would otherwise also be able to hear that specials, if you didn't have problems hearing

[lapis violet]

i understand that, but antax still feels great

more dynamic in terms of horde clear

[vernal temple]

it terms of mods I'd say the "full auto" for staves LBM should also just be an in-game feature

[lapis violet]

regular full auto, as if you were just spam clicking and not doing the quell cancel tech, sure

[vernal temple]

yes, that's what I mean

[lapis violet]

but i swear, if i see a person using a macro or a mod for quell canceling staff lmb, i'm gonna go ballistic

[vernal temple]

quell cancel macro bullshit is annoying

I've had one of those as a teammate

[lapis violet]

it's like... it's not even that good?

[formal harness]

There needs to be a full auto staff

[lapis violet]

there is. it's called purgation charge attack

[vernal temple]

yeah, dude was exploding every two minutes and sniffing the floor

[lapis violet]

in my experience of the single psyker i saw doing it, they were doing the least of all of my teammates and i think i had an eviscerator martyrdom zealot

it wasn't doing much and it was annoying to know they were not just making their own life easier but also going beyond what is intended in the game

[weary idol]

it is insanely overpowered when done properly

[lapis violet]

which is?

[vernal temple]

I have a lbm spam scrier's gaze build, but I use regular full auto. you don't need the quell cancel macro bullshit to perform well with a build like that. it deletes stuff perfectly well as is

[weary idol]

just not being a fucking idiot with it

and blowing yourself up

[nocturne dust]

LMB spam is the hardest staff playstyle

[weary idol]

which is admittedly difficult for the cheaters who defend it and use it

[nocturne dust]

you have to aim

It is not the psyker way

[vernal temple]

aiming is easy unless you have ogryn brain

[quartz barn]

Most people did it manually anyway

[weary idol]

yeah sure they did

[quartz barn]

Its really easy to tell what

[weary idol]

I'm certain that of all 5 people I've seen doing it at ridiculous impossible speeds that all 5 of them were just "doing it manually"

[lapis violet]

there's people like me who are darktide purists. even if i could download mods, i wouldn't

[weary idol]

That's why every single person I've seen running a left click staff build has been obviously macroing it

Because most people did it manually

[quartz barn]

If someone was using a macro the projectiles blended together

[plucky flax]

Sorry it was me

[nocturne dust]

I have seen 1 person using the lmb spam and they were manual

[lapis violet]

but i do not believe that people who would go out of their way to not use charge attacks for staves also wouldn't get a macro/mod for it

[vernal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/blind-velma-scooby-doo-looking-for-glasses-glasses-gif-4538967983907189666

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I use full auto for lmb spam without quell cancel

[lapis violet]

it's also quite obvious who does it manually and who doesn't. the tempo is kinda hard to keep up during a fight

[nocturne dust]

but I also played that like twice

and hated it both times

It's so loud and annoying and bright

[lapis violet]

me with helbore

bright..?

[marble crater]

Me with EP smite

[lapis violet]

eepy smite

[plucky flax]

Logitech g hub my beloved

Vroom vroom

[quartz barn]

But i guess it was more common the last few days because of the change?

[nocturne dust]

It's not the brightness, it's the constant flashing

[quartz barn]

Because ive barely seen lmb spam

[lapis violet]

what change if i may ask?

[quartz barn]

Quell lockout

[vernal temple]

yeah for some reason, the longer you spam lmb while overcharging under warp unbound, the lounder that attacks become

[nocturne dust]

They're cancelling quell canceling 😔

[lapis violet]

huh

HUGE

MASSIVE

best change ever

[quartz barn]

I guess?

[nocturne dust]

It's actually potentially problematic

[vernal temple]

hugh mungus

[nocturne dust]

But we'll see if it actually is

or I'm just a worrywart

[lapis violet]

potentially problematic?

[weary idol]

Even if it ends up being problematic it's a nerf to staves and that's warranted too

[quartz barn]

Most people quell cancel unintentially

[lapis violet]

i don't see there being a problem with a "nerf" which is actually just fixing something which has been unintended for a while now

[nocturne dust]

Imagine you press to quell and then realize a hound is coming and need to swap to melee... only the game doesn't let you because you have to quell

The change requires you to quell

[summer prairie]

that's not how it's going to work

no

it just means if you press quell for less than 0.26s or whatever, nothing happens

[lapis violet]

doesn't switching weapons override literally everything?

[quartz barn]

Ye thats what i said before

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmm, didn't the devblog say there would be a minimum time for quelling?

[lapis violet]

i've cancelled a lot of grenades by trying to shave off seconds from the grenade throw animation

[plucky flax]

It's just vocal minority. I've seen left click balls spam less than 10 times in over 2k hours

[quartz barn]

This

[summer prairie]

you also have to hold block for certain duration before it does anything

[lapis violet]

left balls

[plucky flax]

I've personally used it less than 3 times. It's boring build and annoying af

[quartz barn]

Push cancel

[nocturne dust]

[lapis violet]

not when the game is dead-set on stunning you

the second i want to push attack and click block, i get hit by a poxwalker behind me and get staggered

[nocturne dust]

Are you still in the animation tho?

[summer prairie]

which animation, quell?

[plucky flax]

They should dedicate resources to real psyker matter like burga blaze away and buff blazing spirits t4 to 8 stacks cap

[nocturne dust]

We added a short minimum hold time period for the Quell action, meaning that the action will be performed for the specified amount of time even if the input is released earlier. This change will also guarantee that the first “tick” of Peril quelling will be reached by the Quell action, even when the action is interrupted at the earliest possible timing.

Direct quote

and I'm not reading what you're reading

[summer prairie]

I could be wrong

[marble crater]

Force Dueling Sword with deflector

[summer prairie]

but it would be very odd that if you tap quell, it always quells for one tick

[nocturne dust]

It sounds to me like you press the button and it demands you quell until the first tick

[summer prairie]

instead of just ignoring the input unless you hold it long enough

[lapis violet]

yeah so you tap R to quell, it ticks once UNLESS you swap to melee

or blitz

[plucky flax]

Sure

[nocturne dust]

We can't expect Fatshark to get it right the first time

[summer prairie]

but it would also be pretty cool if you can tap r to always quell exactly one tick

[lapis violet]

to edge even better

[nocturne dust]

I'm joking but Fatshark really does love to take every option before the right one, so I don't have much faith

[lapis violet]

hey, so long they get it right

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nocturne dust]

I didn't play for like a year because they didn't get it right

[lapis violet]

skill issue

honestly

[nocturne dust]

I'm sure there are many still not playing at all due to launch conditions

[summer prairie]

actually I'm probably wrong and it quells for a tick

[lapis violet]

their loss, and i'm serious about this

[summer prairie]

since that's actually how block works, if you tap block it still blocks for a minimum duration

[lapis violet]

if a person is willing to hold a grudge this long, even though things have changed a significant bit, there's no helping them

[nocturne dust]

Well, actually Fatshark's, really

Less people to buy skins

[lapis violet]

the people bought the game

[nocturne dust]

Skins

[summer prairie]

but you can still cancel out of the block animation with other cancels

[lapis violet]

it's a fully priced game with optional cosmetic purchases

most purchases are done by whales, not small time players

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but one whale is worth a whole lot

even if they're 1% of the pop, das a lotta money lost

[lapis violet]

i guarantee there isn't enough whales in that bit of playerbase to make a change

[nocturne dust]

Quell cancelling with cancelling?

[lapis violet]

because if it was, fatshark would have gone a LOT harder on advertising changes

[summer prairie]

well you can probably only cancel by weapon swapping

[nocturne dust]

I would actually propose there are a lot more players that stopped playing due to launch conditions and other issues than are currently playing

And it's hard to know, really, but you can estimate from steam charts a bit

Though, there's always a drop from the beginning

[marble crater]

What would you even do without the influx of us console players?

[quartz barn]

Most dropped the game due to yhe launch conditions

[summer prairie]

not sure if 0.26s is enough time to quell for a tick, awkward

0.3s with purg might be

[quartz barn]

And why care about stuff like the locked and loaded patch at that point

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I don't even have console numbers so I have no idea how you people have affected things

but just comparing VT2 to Darktide, VT2 did better (proportionally, it kept more players with lower starting numbers, though it also did better in actual numbers and had a higher player count directly after its launch than Darktide after its launch despite lower initial player count )

[marble crater]

I don't have the numbers either, but surely for the better

[nocturne dust]

Console cratering to 0 and nuking PC numbers in the process would be crazy

[summer prairie]

so right it's just this thing

[nocturne dust]

we hope

[summer prairie]

the first tick of quelling takes around 18 frames or 0.3s

but the minimum hold time for other staves will be 0.26s

[copper jay]

Zealot is that impactful ? Except for book

I have the feeling delete fast elite/specialist is more important than horde clear

But maybe I have a psyker bias because of our insane staff for horde clear

Ogryn has a niche delete fast bosses

[marble crater]

A well played zealot is just as OP as a well played psyker

They are immortal, best to clutch with, can one or two shot bosses

[jovial juniper]

Rule of thumb is that a zealot is the first or the last to die

Throwing themselves at 15 Ragers and leaving unscathed or shot down immediately by 500 gunners

[wanton fossil]

one or two shot bosses

Can you elaborate futher ?

[nocturne dust]

The thing about the game is nothing is really a threat on their own. While, yes, specials are often what do people in, normally that's after they're distracted by a horde or panicking from an encroaching Bonbon.

[marble crater]

Thunderhammer, stealth, martydom. Done the right way it's enough damage to delete bosses from the map

[nocturne dust]

Thammer

[copper jay]

Maybe this is the KD privilege : This is really hard to stress about horde with this insane trait

[marble crater]

A week or two ago I was playing a lights out mission with a thammer zealot and he would trigger every DH only to then one shot it. I think there were 3 or 4 during the mission

[copper jay]

Just parry and dodge/move till at your teamates

[marble crater]

One time he failed and I laughed at him

[copper jay]

With Stamina +3 you "earn" 3% peril for normal horde attacks ...

[nocturne dust]

Not really, you can get "enough" blocking (read: a lot) by building for block substats in curios.

Psykers are moreso horde mulchers by virtue of all of their tools

so that's generally why hordes aren't much of a threat to them

[jovial juniper]

Hammer propaganda

(I didn't hit the head)

[nocturne dust]

Hard to not have one of assail and creeping flames shriek and force great sword and illisi and inferno and trauma and perilous combustion and voidstrike

[marble crater]

And no marty stacks

[jovial juniper]

Love my meme builds

[nocturne dust]

and those are things that will delete hordes, Psyker has plenty of weaponry that fairs decently against hordes like slaughterer deimos, obscurus, recon if you're desperate, smite, the axes (not chain axe), and probably a few others I'm missing

[plucky flax]

Vertical mount gpu?

[copper jay]

They have so many tools ! I feel really naked playing an other class

[copper jay]

Not Psyker/10

But this is not DS nor Relic Blade so this is good stuff

[jovial juniper]

We love spreading Thunder hammer propaganda 🗣️

[copper jay]

How do you horde clear with this ? Except for Flamethrower

[marble crater]

Heavy loops

Or ask the psyker

[jovial juniper]

On the Crucis just heavy away
Ironhelm is able to special heavy loop

[cosmic sigil]

Ledges.

[jovial juniper]

The natural predators of speedheads

[quartz barn]

Tbf some ledges literally pull you off

[drifting steeple]

thammer my beloved

[echo root]

Is relic blade op? Haven't played since 2w after it released.

[patent mango]

relic is really good but not op good

[copper jay]

I dont know

I played with Disdain, cleave blessings, and others powers talents

Could cleave anything and when the electricity is off, using chorus, then the electricity is back

[jovial juniper]

Your dps went to 0 during chorus

Smh

[jovial juniper]

Not really
It has some downsides, mainly dodges
But once you master the combos it's a pretty good generalist

You won't one shot Carapace without using chastise

talks about mastering combos
One of the marks is just light spam for hordes

[echo root]

Last time I played it didn't handle Crushers too well.

Felt like a sidegrade / minor upgrade to Heavy Evis

[jovial juniper]

The sprint stab with chastise should one shot Crushers if you aim for weakspots

Not sure if the activated mode cleaves through crushers

But treating as a side grade of eviscerator is kind of accurate

RB is like 8 seconds faster at dealing with hordes
And the ttk on crushers and Ragers are like a few milliseconds apart

[glacial vapor]

Relic blade (X) got boring for me. Simple combos and you can often charge into packs of ragers and just... Kill them? Like it's nothing lol

[jovial juniper]

If you remove the cap on the Evis15 then it becomes a third mark of the RB

💀

A really weird RB

Might be a really really distant cousin or something

[patent mango]

mk2 is cool

specially the uppercut

[jovial juniper]

I got the 10 ingrained on my brain I cannot 2

[patent mango]

lock in

[plucky flax]

It's nice. Really good monster damage on mk2 version if you can hit head with upper cut.

Good chaffs clear even without empowering up.

Draw back is slow dodges and having only 4 of it.

Also you kind of want some good attack speed on it.

Personal favourite build is chastise spam for 20% + the 10% node.

[vernal temple]

Aw man, the game won't allow me to rename my character to Backpfeifengesicht

[drifting steeple]

fuuuuuck

[vernal temple]

found a funny word and it fits exactly into the 18 letter limit, but nope

Can't

[drifting steeple]

the bots killed all the enemies

trying to do cliffhanger

[deft stump]

Kill them off tbh.

[marble crater]

Backpfeifengesicht is a funny word

[deft stump]

Pray tell what might it be.

[marble crater]

A face you want to slap

[deft stump]

Oh.

[fresh reef]

Can bolt pistol explosions trigger flayer?

[proper osprey]

ENOUGH

[prime elk]

martyrdom relic blade is fucking hilarious

would recommend

[fiery stratus]

[young cliff]

Question, what shotgun is good for the psyker?

[prime elk]

same as any other human class

double barrel

[wispy bay]

Yes

[jovial juniper]

Slug for maximum CRIT

[young cliff]

The blue one with it's special shot? Is it that good on gaze?

[plucky flax]

I like the fire shotty on zealot

[young cliff]

Fire one for zealot and blue one for psyker?

[jovial juniper]

Agripina likes finesse
For gaze reasons Agri is the fastest but slug also hits hard

Just remember to aim down sights (loses cleave) for more damage

On normal shots that is

[azure parcel]

what's the 2nd blessing that goes with Rending Shockwave?

Flurry or Nexus?

[plucky flax]

Flurry.

[azure parcel]

okie dokie

and perks? crit chance or no?

[marble crater]

Flak and carapace

Or flakiac

If you do rending, you don't care much about crit chance

[plucky flax]

I personally use flak carapace.

But I also only use rending build in havoc 40.

For maelstrom blaze build is better.

[echo root]

2x Chast is my fav unless playing knife

[azure parcel]

I'm setting up a VB + Bubble + Smite Psyker that I can start using in Havoc

[copper jay]

How do you do havoc40 without Psyker ?

[plucky flax]

If you use flurry rending trauma you should play with bb + flayer node.

[copper jay]

Our class seems so mandatory

[plucky flax]

More zealot or vet to stagger shooters/give yellow toughness.

[copper jay]

And damn, running with unoptimal build for penance, leveled my game

And stopped to use bubble on everygame

(and be happy to do more damage than inferno staff)

[patent mango]

ogryn meta soon

[plucky flax]

Burga against trauma in havoc seems to be a tossed up. I've on both end and had won damage dealt either way so it probably comes down to skill level.

Burga is easier to play though for sure.

[copper jay]

Burga ?

[plucky flax]

🍔 urgatus

It's veri cool

[marble crater]

VB and smite is kind of redundant, VB does a lot of the same things smite does while dealing a lot more damage, and with the amount of enemies you will need the damage and really shouldn't switch to smite, imo.

Use BB with flayer for free damage and the option to use it for snipers or specials, if you have to

[copper jay]

Oh ! Purgatus staff ? Inferno one ?

[plucky flax]

Long and forgotten name I refuse to use bad names like voidblast and inferno.

Or electrokinetic

[plucky flax]

When FS changed the vrak to columbus and the columbus to vraks. 🤡

[patent mango]

skibidishark

[vernal temple]

need better names for staves.
slam stick
ball stick
zap stick
burn stick

[marble crater]

Voidtrauma
Voidstrike
Voidsurge
Voidpurgatus
And then we just ignore the void part

[analog agate]

Staff name changes I can see. The gun changes I really don’t understand

[clear heath]

if the lightning staff is gonna be the electrokinetic staff, why isn't the fire staff a pyrokinetic staff?

[vernal temple]

and forgot to change the weapon descriptions

[copper jay]

What is the absolute WORST BUILD to play on Psyker ?

[marble crater]

This makes so much sense, I'm worried they will change it again

[vernal temple]

any gun

[copper jay]

The shredder one ?

[marble crater]

Anything that has smite

[copper jay]

This is not the worst I think you still can be relevant ...

Even with no damage

[vernal temple]

smyker with a gun and shriek

[marble crater]

Sciers with warp charges?

[vernal temple]

yes

use recon lasgun and vacuum all the ammo so your zealots and veterans can thank you

[clear heath]

autopistol dclaw

[vernal temple]

the ones you get an lvl 1

[copper jay]

Thanks, i'll use this with my Kinetic Deflector to wake up DH and stay close to my alliees

[patent mango]

wonder if shredder buffs will b enoug

[plucky flax]

Yes it's op

[azure parcel]

huh, EP Smite + Bubble + rending trauma is pretty good

lets your team absolutely shit on carapace, keeps them safe vs gunners, shuts down dangerous horde situations

very very versatile

[copper jay]

So Psyker is so good everything is decent ?

[young cliff]

is the concept of Shotgunker same for 2barrel and combat ones? assail and gaze with crit aura?

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/favorite-person-evil-eye-dirty-look-mad-gif-14680527

smite + bubble and added on with VB staff.

[azure parcel]

Yeah was just trying it out

Haven't used Psyker in Havoc yet, wanted to create an extremely safe build because I'm not a good Psyker player

This one felt promising

[dusky crag]

Auto pistol, dclaw, smite, shriek, warp charges

Surely that'd be the worst

[marble crater]

No, buff psyker

[weary crane]

Voidstrike would be cooler if it sucked stuff into the ball

[copper jay]

Dclaw block crusher attack ?

[dusky crag]

Shit that is useful a little can we get hands

Just hands

Is taxe psyker without scriers good

Chainsword? Fuck idk

[marble crater]

You can parry them

Or try, need to decide if the risk is worth the reward

[young cliff]

void blast + FGS feels like it can challenge anything the game can toss but is slow as molases, then again, being untouchable in cqc with a bubble do feel nice

alternative to FGS would be the FS, right?

[cosmic sigil]

it's a last resort move

[copper jay]

What is the worst build for Psyker ?

[buoyant maple]

Not enough crit chance or damage

[cosmic sigil]

hard to tell, but i would say trying to use a staff without warp charges probably

[marble crater]

Inferno with 0 burn stat

[marble crater]

Yes, or dueling sword

[young cliff]

what about Taxe? i know some have speak good of that thing on psyker

but is conditional or something around how you build it

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/adorable-duck-bad-days-cute-disappointed-disappointment-gif-12484154820240276693

[cosmic sigil]

you want to go sg + dd

#psyker-class message

taxe is a very safe weapon, mobile, with incredible stagger and access to brutal momentum

but you need to play like a zealot 😄

[young cliff]

so its good for pairing with shotguns?

[cosmic sigil]

hmmm, your biggest problem will be crushers and reapers

and you'll be critting a lot so you want to capitalize on that with EE

the las pistol will give you very good unyielding dmg, mobility and access to the crits

but you will have to melee the crushers

the agri revolver is a nice alternative and works quite well against them

[flat shadow]

Your sword goes from 100 damage heavies to 1k parry with a strikedown followup

It's about 25% stamina

[red jacinth]

getting back into dt after about a year, all my builds have been reset, what kinda builds/perks/blessings do people use for trauma/surge/purgatus and voidstrike now?

[marble crater]

Sure, but if you fail the parry you turn into a pancake

[marble crater]

There are some pinned

[young cliff]

so taxe and revolver are a good pairing, just the classic gunker build for it?

[cosmic sigil]

yeah taxe revolver is a very good pairing

[flat shadow]

Even if you mistime the parry too early it'll still get parried, you'll just lose all your stamina and be stunned

[red jacinth]

what kinda meele does psyker take now?

[cosmic sigil]

i do prefer uing the las pistol to proce ee while i charge gunners or reapers

fgs, fs, ds, taxe

everything finesse oriented is good

[young cliff]

FGS is amazing horde clear, slow than others but quite powerful all around
FS are the faster and with better kill potential, is not as good vs horde but is solid
DS is DS so clear pick
Taxe i know its good but need experience with it

[cosmic sigil]

i think the illisi is very very good with hordes

[flat shadow]

Tac axe is a funny weapon

[cosmic sigil]

its only problem is armored dudes tbh

[flat shadow]

But I don't know, it really benefits from attack speed and finesse bonuses

[cosmic sigil]

illisi revolver is excellent

[cosmic sigil]

attack speed yeah but it's mostly finesse bonnuses and all the bonus you get from peril, sg...

you reach quickly the one tap bp for a lot of elites

[red jacinth]

howmuch in general has changed for psyker builds over the last year?

[patent mango]

biggest change is greatsword exists now

otherwise it should be similar ish just with like a few new talents

[red jacinth]

so what would be a voidstike build now?

mines gone :(

[prime elk]

Good amount given that the tree was reworked

[prime elk]

Should be something in the pins

[red jacinth]

ah oki, what meele should i use for it?

[dull scroll]

fgs

[prime elk]

FGS Obscurus and Illisi are good picks with VS

You'll want attack speed with FGS tho

[red jacinth]

ah, i assume a dueling sword is a fine pick tho?

also, what blessings and perks for voidstike? :3

[prime elk]

Teaches bad habits because it's a blatantly overpowered weapon

But yes it'll work

[prime elk]

Surge and Nexus prob

Carapace and idr the second perk

[dull scroll]

the old voidstrike charge speed was goat 😩 they nerfed it to the ground

[red jacinth]

this is the voidstike ive had before the crafting changes, what should i do with it?

[red jacinth]

wha, when did that happen?

[dull scroll]

long time ago

used to be like twice the speed now or something

[prime elk]

Sell it and roll for a better one

It's pretty easy to get a perfect roll now

[red jacinth]

i mean for now, what blessings should i swap? :3

[analog agate]

All psyker builds have changed since a year ago. Some more than others

[prime elk]

This

Flurry and Nexus if you're not a gambling man

[red jacinth]

would running kd + deflector be a bad idea

kinda curios

[analog agate]

That combo is really good. Especially if you find yourself put of position a lot or want to tank demon hosts

[upper sun]

theoretical: play darktide until the update drops
practical: dont play darktide until the update drops

[prime elk]

Yeah I've been playing less. Need update. NOW.

[upper sun]

started playing xcom tbh

how the fuck did i play it when i was a kid

i keep getting my ass beat

i reloaded saves like 10 times already

i swear i wasnt this bad

[torn kernel]

you need to gamble more

[strong gulch]

Me playing older games. Makes me wonder how I would take to newer games if I was a kid now.

[upper sun]

🚬 ikr everything is SLOP nowadays

[strong gulch]

I feel like slop tbh.

[upper sun]

theres fun slop and theres zoomer slop ie fortnite overwatch2 etc

i swear the best recent release i played was control and that was released like 3 years ago

[icy flower]

nowadays a lot of games are just anti-fun. May look better, but don't really feel right.

[strong gulch]

Maybe I should fire up donky kong on the super nintendo and cry at how far I've fallen; or I could just play low level fast food sim and vibe.

[patent mango]

indies are peak nowadays tho

[icy flower]

real

I had more fun playing Terraria than playing all Ubisfot games I've tried combined

[patent mango]

just triple slop being slop

terraria devs are funny

they keep making final updates

[upper sun]

terraria is old tho

[prime elk]

indie devs

[patent mango]

their latest small patch has been in dev for 2 years LOL

[upper sun]

ubisoft hasnt made a good game since AC3

[icy flower]

last good Ubisoft game I've played was Rayman in 2006

[patent mango]

ubisoft could stop making games and i dont think i would notice

[upper sun]

i blocked them and bethesda from my steam feed

[patent mango]

lmao

[upper sun]

i dont think many people know you can do that

[patent mango]

havent blocked them but they dont show up anyways

[upper sun]

but you can deadass just block devs

[patent mango]

im guessing they still make games?

[upper sun]

i have no idea theyre blocked

[patent mango]

fair

[upper sun]

everything i have learned about ubisoft games has been against my will

i think theres a far cry 4/5 and AC unity,blackflag, vikings

[patent mango]

far cry 4/5? they made more???

[upper sun]

idk i think

[prime elk]

They stopped the business of making games a while back. They make MTX storefronts now

[upper sun]

the chicken guy from breaking bad is in one of them

oh yeah theres also the one in america

[patent mango]

i think that was always their priority tbh

[upper sun]

so yeah 4 and 5

[prime elk]

It just got more blatant over time yeah

[upper sun]

the one in america has a fire sound track thats how i heard about it

[patent mango]

next rain world dlc is in 2 weeks lmaooo

[cloud prawn]

Hello, could I know what build would be correct for a Psyker using stones for high level games?

[dull scroll]

stones, what's that

[prime elk]

Maybe he's playing an ogryn psyker

[hardy delta]

actually asking for ogryn psyker

https://tenor.com/view/take-this-rock-gif-9267856630793442480

here, take notes

[cloud prawn]

lol idk what the name in english sorry

[dull scroll]

it couldn't be assail you were trying to ask could it 😒

[hardy delta]

is that assail, is that some keystone

[marble crater]

Probably assail yes

Or a confused ogryn player

[hardy delta]

what are other stones

[marble crater]

Oh, people already said that

[strong gulch]

Assail, gun (aka gunker), and melee builds are all about the same.

This is pretty standard with no particular weapon as a focus, but works as is.

[prime elk]

No one with the warp and warp speed. HERESY

[marble crater]

It's a damnation build, not heresy

[strong gulch]

If you fully want to lean into assail and don't mind not buffing you other weapons, assail with EP (empowered psionics; middle keystone) is a thing.

[hardy delta]

is there even a non-bubble havoc psyker build

[dull scroll]

if I don't take speed my teammates will get all the kills it's an absolute imperative

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-look-hint-allusion-eyes-gif-15443059

[marble crater]

You can play something else if you already have a psyker with shield

[azure parcel]

god I am legit terrible at Psyker but Smite + Bubble is such a huge crutch in Havoc

[strong gulch]

Many do opt for the speed node and one with the warp, but many more do not.

I take the speed one for sure with FGS (force great sword).

[azure parcel]

maybe I should go overboard and put Deflector on my Illisi

[torn kernel]

and a +2 stam perk for maximum afk gaming

[strong gulch]

+2 stam instead of +3 stam is based.

Imagine if we started getting +3 stam on weapons instead and only +2 stam on curios since the game doesn't want to give us +3 stam curios anyways.

It's so absurd that it just might become real.

[marble crater]

Please no

I have like six +3 stamina curios on each psyker now

We need more curio slots

[strong gulch]

I still don't have a +3 on duck weed.

[marble crater]

I trade for a low warp res illisi

[fierce surge]

For the warp battery penance is asking for 120 games where I hold this charge for 120 seconds? Or is it saying; you played one game and held it for 93 seconds, try again and aim for 120

[dull scroll]

embrace KD and drop all stam curio 😬

[marble crater]

Second one

[fierce surge]

Cheers

[strong gulch]

Don't accidentally empower it later when the inventory order gets fecked and you only realize after the fact.

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

😭

[jovial juniper]

Creeping Flames maxxing

[icy flower]

there is, but you will need to get past "declined" screen in party finder

[dull scroll]

bait and switch 👍

[pliant sage]

think we have enough bubbles?

[patent mango]

need more

[marble crater]

Archivum spotted

[young cliff]

It will evaporate in the first seconds of the encounter, must reset the shields asap

[marble crater]

Archivum end event should have a guaranteed Plogryn spawn

[cloud prawn]

Thx. And for weapons, what the most powerful we can get?

[pliant sage]

I used a conc stim to get 3 bubbles in a row

[strong gulch]

Probably Vraks 5 IAG and FGS. If you struggle to control that gun, recon lasgun.

[marble crater]

Conc stim is nice, my favorite is red stim

[pliant sage]

conc stim is my favorite with what I use for abilities

fast uptime on protector, bubble, voice, infiltrate and bible study

[marble crater]

Red for psyker, yellow for zealot and vets

[strong gulch]

blue for EP BB

[elder glade]

Red apple stims, yummers

[strong gulch]

red is probably better but fast BB

FECKING RED DILICIOUS APPLES

they suck

MAD

[marble crater]

Red for staff spam

[pliant sage]

I like blue for my BB spam build

lemme

I heard the qhispers of zteencth as I made this

behold this monstrosity

[strong gulch]

no KF 😭

[marble crater]

That's the least of my worries

[strong gulch]

It's what I latched onto

[pliant sage]

It's so bad but it's so fucking funny

[patent mango]

ds nerfs mentioned??

[upper sun]

give deimos a looping heavy 2 and delete ds

[pliant sage]

I also kinda made it specifically for that one penance that needs you to be in a private game. never got into a private party for it yet

[broken carbon]

make deimos H1 deal more damage to unarmored, maniac, unyielding, infested

and H2 deal more to carapace and flak

simple as that !

[upper sun]

no

deimos h2 is already borderline broken

[broken carbon]

stabs should have better ADMs into flak and carapace

[upper sun]

it has 239214225234 stagger to everything

[broken carbon]

but overheads should deal more damage to unarmored

[broken carbon]

no i dont mean increase it

i meant like

relatively

so h1 is for non armored

[upper sun]

ah yeah kinda

[broken carbon]

and h2 is for armored

[upper sun]

you're not even supposed to use h1 for anything other than clear

[patent mango]

deimos h2 is funny

crazy how obscurus can compete with that

[broken carbon]

my idea should be applie to all overhead and stab weapons

tbh

[marble crater]

Curios what they will nerf, take it away from zealot and vet?

[broken carbon]

like FGS

[patent mango]

i dont think thats even possible

[marble crater]

Why wouldn't that be possible?

[broken carbon]

removing from classes

could be difficult

[patent mango]

i dont thinky they can just remove items? unsure

[upper sun]

replace it with a brick

🧱

[pliant sage]

give ds to ogryn only

:)

[upper sun]

they can delete weapons i wouldnt worry about it tbh

[marble crater]

We can delete things from our inventory, so why can't Fatshark

[broken carbon]

wrong, give ogryn 4 DS that they hold between their fingers

like wolverine claws

[pliant sage]

SO TRUE

[patent mango]

btw i tried giving ogryn weps to human classes and it doesnt work

but u can give most human weps to ogryn

[broken carbon]

absolute cinema

[broken carbon]

yah its sad

[upper sun]

"why is my game crashing"

[broken carbon]

i wonder how bolter does on glugger ogryn

[patent mango]

its not like i give ds to ogryn every time i play

probably

[patent mango]

i could test that

[upper sun]

horror

[marble crater]

Can ogryns even use a bolter? Are the fingers not too big?

[pliant sage]

ogryn sized bolters please and thank you

[broken carbon]

heavy bolters they probably could

[crisp marsh]

lmao

[broken carbon]

we prolly wont ever get one

sadly

but

itd be cool

[patent mango]

isnt ogryn prolly getting that hammer next anyways

[granite mauve]

fuck heavy bolter

give me multilas

[patent mango]

multiplasma for vet

[granite mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-the-rot-goofy-goober-silly-schizophrenia-gif-12414327510351470727

[crisp marsh]

💀

[patent mango]

legendary relic plasma weapon

explodes in 2 shots

[crisp marsh]

kinda new to the game, how do "relic" or "sanctified" rank work for equipment?

[granite mauve]

there is no such rank

[patent mango]

relic is uh a weapon for zealot

and sainted is a modded funny color that only changes visually

[crisp marsh]

oh, cuz (i think it was on old versions) i saw on some guides people with like orange weapons instead of the yellow

[marble crater]

Cheaters giving themselves better weapons, is what that is

[crisp marsh]

THAT one

[patent mango]

trolled!!!!!!

it makes it easier to sort tbh

[plucky flax]

@deft stump free now if you're awake

[patent mango]

its uh red weapons at home on nexus

[crisp marsh]

oh real?

[patent mango]

now imma try bolter on ogryn

why not

[crisp marsh]

why not indeed

the ogryn be "haha funny grenade pistol"

[marble crater]

Bolter can't be used to melee, ogryn won't like it

[crisp marsh]

btw, thoughts on the "Assail" blitz?

[patent mango]

lmao

(h40)

[crisp marsh]

BRUUH

[marble crater]

Most fun Blitz, unfortunate we can't take it with Psykentic's Aura

[broken carbon]

i thought the boss kill would be better

[broken carbon]

oh

LMFAO

nvm that’s insane

[patent mango]

i wonder how good plasma is on ogryn

[jovial juniper]

What am I seeing

Like genuinely

[patent mango]

bolter ogryn

[jovial juniper]

I know that one is like data tide or something

Does it give weapons to classes that shouldn't have it?

[patent mango]

loadout config gives them to ogryn yea

[crisp marsh]

yeah, i had to use seers presence to replace it

[patent mango]

and it works in solo mode for datatide so lol lamo

[upper sun]

this is what gw took from us

[jovial juniper]

Is the opposite true?
Like a kickback vet?

[patent mango]

naw

that just crashes

[jovial juniper]

Aaaw

Welp can't have it all

Still funny mod

Also really surprising

[fierce surge]

If anyone’s available I need help with a penance? Malleus Monstronum? I need to be on a heresy level+ mission and deal at least 50% damage with my brain burst to any monstrosity. (Mic is also broke atm but my code is : 3449370422

[patent mango]

plasma on ogryn is kinda lame

2 dodges lmao

[crisp marsh]

haha funny greatsword goes schiiiing

[plucky flax]

I can help no mic required just bb away.

[fierce surge]

Sweet! So jump into a strike team and go hunting?

[plucky flax]

Ye ill inv u

[fierce surge]

Alrighty I’ll be waiting cheers friend

[marble crater]

Did you get permission from clad?

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-phillips-tom-hanks-captain-richard-phillips-barkhad-abdi-abduwali-muse-gif-5096442

[upper sun]

he didnt even file the form 😭

[patent mango]

this is the footage they see in the warp

[jovial juniper]

The laugh 💀

[patent mango]

bully ogryn is funny

[marble crater]

Bully is best ogryn personality

[urban sundial]

any tips for getting Cliffhanger, I've been spamming Chasm Logistratium and can't seem to get someone to pull the dudes on the bridge so I can smite them off

[upper sun]

yes

[urban sundial]

or get it at all. If anyone can give tips or help, that'd be nice

[upper sun]

#psyker-class message

this method works if you have a +1

theres another method for normal play

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message

Read this

[upper sun]

yep this as well

[fierce surge]

@plucky flax thanks again!!

[plucky flax]

I'm better

Np mate

[jovial juniper]

Bro thinks he's 'Omelandah

If not bro then sis

Sis thinks she's 'Omelandah

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-a-fucking-disappointment-soldier-boy-jensen-ackles-the-boys-im-so-disappointed-in-you-gif-26161747

[upper sun]

🚬 no

which room did the boss spawn in?

[plucky flax]

I dunno I just pickeda random heresy map and run until we find a monster.

[upper sun]

90% of my MMs are in the first room

sold part of my soul but its worth it to summon them on comand

[plucky flax]

You do it on ogryn?

[upper sun]

ye

rush is great at closing distance and a big stagger in case shit goes wrong

[plucky flax]

That's really noob.

[upper sun]

😭

[plucky flax]

I made bonbon spat out my guy with deimos heavy 2 stab.

[upper sun]

🚬 my ogryn never would have let it happen

[plucky flax]

I dunno he was just bbing and eating the spit I'm just running around.

Xd

[strong gulch]

all of the cliffhanger recs #psyker-class message

[urban sundial]

thanks

[marble crater]

Maybe we should write a penance guide and have it pinned

[upper sun]

then whatelse would we talk about?

were 2 weeks away from the ogrynpocolpyse

i foresee all 3 other class channels dying at least for the weekend

[strong gulch]

At least in part.

I foresee every class channel becoming ogryn channels.

[upper sun]

🤔 yeah also that

[patent steeple]

btw, what melee should I use on a bubble assail blaze trauma build? I have tried DS4 and Deimos, but neither really seem to do both backup horde clear AND carapace dmg well/safely enough...

[jovial juniper]

I should queue with someone that has true level mod to see the level of my Oggy

[strong gulch]

Knife or FGS. Since trauma handles everything, monster and movement speed might be your better friend.

[analog agate]

Mk6 vs mk8 fgs. Empyric resolve being good. Tier list of staves. Smite + bubble being an abomination.

You know. Usual stuff

[strong gulch]

TDR nodes on gunker/ melee

stam regen

precog

wildfire

[marble crater]

I know I will play ogryn

[strong gulch]

sutgryn

[plucky flax]

I am the ogre.

https://tenor.com/view/sonfys-shrek-gif-15350610703372212021

[strong gulch]

RIP to anyone not playing ogryn with guns.

[patent steeple]

mk6 or mk3 knife, exactly? I have tried both a relatively long time ago and mk3 seemed easier for me to use, but it was with meleeker...

[prime elk]

Mk6 is straight up better

Especially on psyker

[strong gulch]

Whichever you like more. Mk 6 is better imo on psyker because we can really make use of it's PA to drill into enemies. I am not a knife pro tho.

[patent steeple]

oh yeah, I think a part of my problem back then was using the heavies for horde clear, but I ended getting stunlocked easily because I was using knife on meleeker (so I was using gun instead of staff)...

[strong gulch]

Between psyker stam regen speed, KD, and a +stam crio (410 or higher), psyker can PA more aggressively.

[prime elk]

You can use L H combo, all heavies isn't safe for horde clear (as you know)

[patent steeple]

still a bit risky from my experience...

[prime elk]

L H should be safe

[plucky flax]

Horde clear with knife on psyker?

[strong gulch]

Pygex has some older vids of mk 6 knife.

[crisp marsh]

bruh, i got mowed by 4 gunners on open space

[strong gulch]

Something that some amount of horde clear but can do cara and monsters to go with trauma that isn't DS or deimos.

So I said knife or FGS

[plucky flax]

Aye but they are talking about horde clear.

Knife with trauma is just movement speed and monsters fighting.

[strong gulch]

Did you learn to not do that?

I haven't. I refuse to learn.

[marble crater]

My shield ogryn has all the guns he needs right here 💪

[young cliff]

Ogryn spirit

[strong gulch]

Ye.

[marble crater]

Did you try dodging or not being in open spaces?

[strong gulch]

But can do some hordes

[young cliff]

But the quickest path to bad guys is forward!

[plucky flax]

You should hide behind teammates.

[marble crater]

Where is Pygex?

[radiant frigate]

is pygex?

[strong gulch]

idk

[crisp marsh]

yes :(

[marble crater]

I haven't seen him in weeks or months even

[crisp marsh]

even sliding spamming

[strong gulch]

Hope he's just busy.

[crisp marsh]

agreed

[young cliff]

He is [REDACTED BY DECREE OF THE INQUISITION]

[marble crater]

Hide inside the ogryn

[prime elk]

Idk I was just answering a question lol

[marble crater]

Don't answer questions, smh

[prime elk]

I need to balance out complaining about bad teammates by being helpful every once in a while

[analog agate]

Pygex could have just grown bored with the game 🤷‍♂️

[strong gulch]

Ye.

[prime elk]

Haven't seen him in a while 🤔

[analog agate]

He posted a month ago. Not too long

[glacial vapor]

I can't believe I ignored Voidblast staff for this long

I am a fool

[fierce surge]

Any tips on pushing people off ledges? I need 7 to fall within 2seconds and I have been on every map, every bridge, funny enough didn’t realize the train had a lot of safety railings, and I just can’t seem to get it

Closest I got was 5

[verbal thistle]

venting shriek plus force sword push

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[junior linden]

is this stance bugged for anyone else, its showing one of the vet ones lollll

[fierce surge]

I’m running that but still just can’t get it, I blame the randoms then

[fierce surge]

Cheers!

[urban sundial]

It worked!!! Thank you

[strong gulch]

NOICE

[plucky flax]

Real OGs did it when it was like 13 or something ridiculous.

[strong gulch]

I can't remember how many it used to be.

[urban sundial]

used to be 20

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

[strong gulch]

Where I did mine doesn't even exist now. Spawn places changed.

[crisp marsh]

stacked +30% xp on my curios lmfao

[prime elk]

Make sure to swap those out once you hit 30

[crisp marsh]

yep

[urban sundial]

I did torrent and there's a better bridge that an ogyrn held dudes there with a shield and I push a ton off

[strong gulch]

I was alone and a horde was dropping. I had a "What if I push every one of you off this ledge?"

And then I found out that was a penance lmao.

[marble crater]

When you unlock 100% of your brain

[marble crater]

No, grind higher true level

[deft stump]

I ended up asleep, just woke lul.

Too late now?

But it's really bad this week, blight+pus refinery.

[lyric niche]

whats a good psyker build

[junior linden]

I got it release week on accident with brain burst

[stable widget]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9db644f3-8fd7-4786-9af0-cc63ebf840b2/tanners-purge-staff-meta-build

and you can search through build and click psyker left middle area to go through psyker builds

[weary idol]

rending of the soul is bugged and doesn't work

empyric resolve's "downside" is barely noticable in practice

[prime elk]

Tbf

It's pretty bad for purg

[stable widget]

Gonna disagree there personally

[vernal blaze]

wait rending of the soul still isn't fixed yet?

[prime elk]

I like ER on pretty much every staff besides purg

[vernal blaze]

it's been like 4 months or sumn

[prime elk]

Purg peril gen is too slow

[lyric niche]

im a zealot main, im looking for something easy to put together for the psyker since ive leveled my psyker up but i dont know whats a good tree

[prime elk]

You're talking about a company that manages to break the inventory UI in a hotfix intended for Xbox players

[prime elk]

Pins have some starter stave builds

[lyric niche]

interesting, ill check that out thanks

[north tartan]

Gun psyker all the way

[verbal thistle]

assail is the best blitz for leveling

[north tartan]

And also my favorite

[blazing osprey]

Hey for "In Fire Reborn" does the enemy have to die to the soulflame DoT in order for it to work? Or can they just die while burning?

[verbal thistle]

die while burning

[marble crater]

Accurate talent descriptions when?

[north tartan]

When fatshark fixes the UI bug

[prime elk]

And basic gunker FGS build

[blazing osprey]

Maybe I'm just not doing it correctly, I don't feel like I'm getting that many warp charges from it while using the inferno staff :\

[long wharf]

not taking Perilous Combustion is a choice.

[lyric niche]

interesting

[prime elk]

Yes. And a good one.

Talking about auric and AM

[verbal thistle]

lower difficulties dont have alot of elites and specials

[prime elk]

Idk and idc about havoc

[vernal blaze]

quietude my goat smh

[carmine agate]

how do i use purg staff? i usually use others gotta try it out

[prime elk]

Hold down rmb, then lmb

Do that all game

Press F sometimes

End up with top damage

[lyric niche]

you forgot WASD and space

[north tartan]

Optional

[vernal blaze]

top 10 contributions to the conversation 2025

[carmine agate]

aight thanks

[lyric niche]

top 5 best human interactions caught on camera

[marble crater]

Just map every button to F

[carmine agate]

i was wondering if i needed to do short puffs or long spouts

b4

[vernal blaze]

doesn't matter which

[lyric niche]

map everything to lmb

[prime elk]

Just remember to use lmb to get staggers on ragers

[vernal blaze]

lmb stagger is wack on purge

[carmine agate]

got it

[fresh reef]

Your pfp is a reddit award

why are you

[vernal blaze]

why am I?

[marble crater]

Finish the sentence

[fresh reef]

That was the end of the sentence

[vernal blaze]

because I

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-go-on-please-go-on-on-a-date-will-ferrell-gif-16513199

[vernal temple]

new slop this week, right?

[long wharf]

every week is slop week, when you play a FartShack game

[vernal temple]

I mean new slop is once every other week, so iirc this week should have new slop

[long wharf]

if by "new" you mean recolored cosmetics that are marked as premium despite clipping issues, maybe

[marble crater]

The answer is yes, new slop

Also I can't help but notice that there are fewer lights out missions on the board ever since the event ended, I don't like it

[deft stump]

Event missions are 50% lights out or vent purge. FS hates ppl with sight issues.

[icy flower]

how slow are the devs when it comes to patching talents and such? I bought the game like 5 months ago and even then that talent was broken already

[clear heath]

very

[icy flower]

there is also ectro staff points bug that is a bit annoying

although not as important

[clear heath]

at this point we're all used to shit staying broken

[icy flower]

yeah, got Darktide in november, played for a month, left, came back with havoc update, played for 2 weeks, left

and those two things are still broken

[icy flower]

that doesn't sound very reassuring, ngl

[wispy bay]

That's Fatshark for you.

[marble crater]

Gameplay, music and level design makes up for it

[upper sun]

recon
recon
ds4
ds4

🚬

why do i even play this game

[marble crater]

So called free thinkers

[icy flower]

People like good weapon. People don't like bad weapon. People pick good.

[patent jacinth]

Wrong, I play Tac axe

[icy flower]

I did as well, but then found better weapons.

[patent jacinth]

Those better weapons are usually less fun to play

[prime elk]

Better weapons than taxe?

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[icy flower]

I have fun with dual sword 4 and power greatsword the most out of all weapons.

although if shock mace could two shot in the head bulwarks, I'd play it instead.

[patent jacinth]

Ds4 has 2 attacks and just sweeps games

Relic blade is actually fun but is also very powerful

[prime elk]

Yeah relic blade is fantastic and well designed

[patent jacinth]

Low mobility makes it a bit more ethical but it’s still extremely good

[icy flower]

inferno for dot damage and horde clear, ds for single target removal of carapace specials. That's my logic anyway.

[torpid comet]

what melee should i try on zealot

i use DS for psyker

and uh i think power sword on veteran

need to try relic blade still it looks fun

[marble crater]

Use DS on everyone before it gets nerfed

[torpid comet]

what will replace DS

[torpid comet]

what’s it getting nerfed for

[marble crater]

For being too strong while also having great mobility

[torpid comet]

ah

[verbal thistle]

shrimply being the best weapon in the game

[torpid comet]

idk what i’ll use on psyker if they gut DS

I LOVE power sword on vet maybe that

[verbal thistle]

another one fallen into the DS trap

😔

[marble crater]

Psyker doesn't have power sword

[torpid comet]

i can’t see anything else on psyker being fun to use

[marble crater]

Illisi, Deimos or fgs I guess. Knife if you want mobility

[verbal thistle]

fun is subjective

I use tactial axe

[torpid comet]

i tried to look for it so that’s why lol

[velvet sierra]

Both force swords are really fun and pretty good.

[torpid comet]

i’ll probably try relic sword

if they make ds unusable on psyker

[icy flower]

force greatsword with that teal wave on special attack

[patent jacinth]

Tac axe, FGS, knife

Normal force swords

[torpid comet]

hate knife and taxe looks ugly

will try force swords

[patent jacinth]

Taxe is so much fun

And it’s perfect for psyker’s kit

[icy flower]

I dunno about that, but I'd definitely pick it over knife

[verbal thistle]

taxe wants crits for their armor damage

and guess who gets the most crits

[icy flower]

i mean fun

[patent jacinth]

Massive crit synergy, great finesse, high mobility, safe clear

[velvet sierra]

Reginald did great video on Great force sword.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqI5bd2vVQU&t=672s

[icy flower]

I wouldn't call taxe fun

[verbal thistle]

fun is subjective

[icy flower]

but nor would I call that knife, even less so

that's all I meant

[icy flower]

my point exactly

[torpid comet]

not sure how i feel about the poking it looks weird

[velvet sierra]

Only one mark "pokes" and both are perfectly usable.

[torpid comet]

oh bet

[patent jacinth]

Both do

One has it as part of the heavy loop and the other has to chain in from a push to get it

[velvet sierra]

You are right, sorry.I don't usually use the push chain, so I completely forgot.

[clear heath]

the pokes do big damage

[analog agate]

Deimos and obscurus will be the replacement for ds if big nerf

[prime elk]

You're missing out

Push is really good

[velvet sierra]

I do use push, just not the whole chain.

[prime elk]

Mk 6 user I assume?

[velvet sierra]

Yep :]

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

BROS

I PRESSED RECORD INSTEAD OF CAPTURE CLIP

😭

[nocturne dust]

Taxe propaganda

[strong gulch]

Hello deadvoid

[nocturne dust]

Hello potato

[strong gulch]

You're on the list

[patent jacinth]

Is it propaganda if its right

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[clear heath]

force taxe when?

[patent jacinth]

PLEASE

[clear heath]

fuck it, just give me force everything

force hammer

force knife

[strong gulch]

U a taxe psyker?

[nocturne dust]

Finally, big psyker boss damage

[marble crater]

Skill issue

[clear heath]

no but i see the appeal

[strong gulch]

kk. Ur not on the list then.

[clear heath]

taxe has high base crit and psyker has EE

[marble crater]

You have a list of taxe psykers?

[strong gulch]

Yes #psyker-class message

[marble crater]

Why

This looks like some order 66 type shit

[strong gulch]

People kept asking who are the the psykers to ask about the taxe. So I made a list,

[nocturne dust]

"What do we do, Captain? The prisoner isn't on the list!"

[marble crater]

Sounds sus, I don't trust this list

[strong gulch]

Don't have to. It's sus.

Putting people on lists generally bad.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-the-elder-scrolls-skyrim-the-elder-scrolls-bethesda-skyrim-intro-gif-2913141518548816940

[blazing osprey]

Does the voidstrike staff count as "Ranged Attack" for the various talents?

[strong gulch]

Yes

[blazing osprey]

Thank you

[strong gulch]

Voidblast RMB/ secondary doesn't for the +5% ranged talent tho.

Voidstrike does.

[blazing osprey]

Yea I was going to try a weird build with the True Aim talent + crits with the voidstrike and see how it goes

Probably not well but for fun so

[strong gulch]

Voidstrike with true aim is a meta build

[blazing osprey]

Oh lol, I don't even know where to see meta builds so just messing around

[strong gulch]

well part of it

Messing around is good.

[blazing osprey]

What is the build that you're referring to?

[strong gulch]

This is meta for voidstrike (not havoc)

I personally prefer @nocturne dust's voidstrike build with SG.

[nocturne dust]

Reject meta, embrace balls

[lyric niche]

i tried this build out for a few games today and it is good

is the second one better

for context, im not a psyker main so i don't really know anything

[strong gulch]

It's more fun for me, so it's better for me.

The first one has creeping flames + PC and will do more.