psyker-class

[blissful solar]

gimme a link to ur motherboard or tell me the model

[deft stump]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z390-A-PRO/Specification

[blissful solar]

4 x DDR4 memory slots, support up to 128GB1

Supports DDR4 4400(OC)/ 4300(OC)/ 4266(OC)/ 4200(OC)/ 4133(OC)/ 4000(OC)/ 3866(OC)/ 3733(OC)/ 3600(OC)/ 3466(OC)/ 3400(OC)/ 3333(OC)/ 3300(OC)/ 3200(OC)/ 3000(OC) / 2800(OC)/ 2666/ 2400/ 2133 MHz1

[deft stump]

OC.

[blissful solar]

that's just what they say

[nocturne dust]

probs overclock

[deft stump]

Yeah, I never did fiddle with that thing.

I tried it once and my PC refused to boot.

Shrugs.

I can get to bios, but no further.

Dook do I know basically.

[vernal frost]

doesnt oc here just reference xmp profiles?

[blissful solar]

your mobo doesnt list the 3600 ram you have as supported so idk.

[clear heath]

technically stuff like xmp is an overclock

[vernal frost]

^

[blissful solar]

probably, when duders deal with ram they love to refer to XMP as overclocking, seemingly to avoid warranty claims or stuff like that

[deft stump]

Yeah, There's a button for it.

I clicked it once and PC refused to boot further.

So... Shrugs.

[vernal frost]

and that's totally fair

[deft stump]

Turned it off again and PC boots as usual.

So IDK that thing.

[blissful solar]

maybe. it's at the point now that it's probably more of a deliberate obfuscation than an actual need. we've been using xmp ram like it's normal for years now

[clear heath]

I've had an xmp profile not be stable after switching from an Intel to an AMD setup
which tbf xmp is technically an intel standard

[vernal frost]

tho on second thought i'm inclined to agree

[clear heath]

the fix for me was to just increase the voltage

xmp is just a overclock profile that's been pre tested

[vernal frost]

mine is running fine on 3600 with a base clock of 2666

ye

[blissful solar]

yeah if you can get into bios somehow (questionable as to how) you can probably increase the ram's voltage or decrease its clock and it'll be far more likely to work

[deft stump]

I mean, isn't this why my faster ram is underclocked to heck?

[blissful solar]

the two ram sets you have need to be equalized or else the computer wont work. the slower ram module cannot ever attain the faster speed, but the faster module can obviously attain the slower speed

so it's kinda related

[blissful solar]

your motherboard's page doesnt list the ram you have as compatible. this is either very bad or doesnt mean much.

if you cant boot but can get into bios then you can just reduce the ram to 3533 and it'll probably work

[vernal frost]

mixing ram kits is asking for issues to happen

[blissful solar]

it doesnt matter much since they'll just meet the weakest standard that they can both reach

but it matters for surely if their speeds are significantly different

[deft stump]

Thing is, that was when the slower RAM wasn't in.

I just threw them in after giving up and the PC boots fine still, so that's how i ended with 48GB of RAM.

Maybe if I can be arsed to spend 2-4 hours trying to tweak it, but lazy.

[blissful solar]

well if the mobo is set to have no XMP profile then the faster ram should boot no problem, as it'll be running in a weak state. maybe your mobo didnt boot because it was memory training or something

[clear heath]

The xmp profile shouldn't be stopping the pc from booting anyways if they didn't turn it on

xmp profiles aren't enabled by default

[deft stump]

It's when I turn it on, the PC won't boot.

[blissful solar]

i just wonder if the mobo is already set to use an xmp from a prior configuration what it tries to do

[deft stump]

When I turn it off, it works as much as it does.

[clear heath]

I guess it's not stable for your pc then

[blissful solar]

the mobo page doesnt list that exact model as compatible, though does have a similar model compatible, so maybe it actually isnt compatible

[clear heath]

xmp profiles are overclocks tested for intel, and a lot of old ram doesn't have the amd equivelant

a lot of early ddr4 ram were made back when amd was so shit it basically didn't exist

[deft stump]

I have Intel. i7-9700.

[clear heath]

oh

unlucky i guess

could just try downclocking it bit by bit until it works

[deft stump]

Why if I can be arsed to spend 4 hours tweaking, maybe.

And if it only works when it's down to 2667 again, I'm just gonna reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[clear heath]

unfortunate
i love wasting seveal hours on overclocking for marginal performance gains

[blissful solar]

that's what the first few weeks of a new pc is all about

or a new part

[deft stump]

I mean, I spent an hour getting it to work.

Well, more than that.

[clear heath]

why enjoy using your pc when you can torture yourself with testing overclocks instead?

[deft stump]

I just jump skipped after awhile.

And if it only works at that, i might as well install my old RAM.

Then test to see if they are stable with each other.

That part can be done while asleep so yeah.

And before you ask, why upgrade? Is because I can't find slower anymore offline.

I just wanted more RAM.

16 didn't cut it obviously.

Firefox using up to 24GB now kinda tells you that.

[deft stump]

It's currently 3GB for me.

But that's cos 0 YT tabs.

[marble crater]

That's what mine looks like too

[deft stump]

The moment I start watching YT.

It goes to hell.

[blissful solar]

im watching 4 shorts

[marble crater]

That doesn't sound normal

[deft stump]

To be fair, i also spent an hour closing all useless tabs so... XD

[marble crater]

[blissful solar]

who is to blame for that

[deft stump]

But still, YT just uses 16GB by itself NPNP.

[marble crater]

Firefox apparently

[vernal frost]

does firefox not unload tabs you dont use for a while? my chrome does that

i have like 80 to 100 open in various folders

[marble crater]

You know you can make bookmarks

[blissful solar]

firefox does put tabs to sleep

[vernal frost]

bookmarks suck ass

[deft stump]

Dunno. But I know my YT tabs NEVER sleep from what I can tell.

[nocturne dust]

or you can have 100s of tabs open

[vernal frost]

my youtube tabs sleep just fine

but again, im using chrome

[nocturne dust]

my youtube tabs sleep just fine

I use Firefox

[west smelt]

adblockers on it still work for youtube too

[blissful solar]

watching like 4 videos and 1 of them is 8k60fps

it aint going too well for my cpu i guess

[upper sun]

went back to xcom after years of not playing got my ass beat so badly its not even funny

[nocturne dust]

Runs faster too

[marble crater]

That's Xcom baby

[vernal frost]

had to switch off ublock to ublock lite today..................

they';re killing me

[west smelt]

yurp

[marble crater]

The adblocker doesn't work on the browser from the company that sells ads? Ain't no way

[nocturne dust]

Imagine continuing to use Chrome as they use their monopolistic dominance of the market to enshittify your experience

[vernal frost]

i dont care man

[clear heath]

disabling ublock was the last straw that made me switch

[upper sun]

i lost the person that rescued me

[vernal frost]

not a single ounce of caring about nayuthing in me

[nocturne dust]

You just complained about the enshittification

so you do seem to care

[vernal frost]

if i cared i would've switched to firefox

and instead i installed another version of ublock

[nocturne dust]

You can care not enough

[vernal frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1002609226205630575/1341549557791854632/cannyArrive-4x.gif

[nocturne dust]

But also shame on you for not caring

[upper sun]

i switched to brave it works well enough for the most part

[marble crater]

It be like that sometimes. In my current run I ended up too strong and now I don't want to finish it because of it

[clear heath]

I switched to brave too

[vernal frost]

if ublock lite stops working and there's no ublock lite lite by then i'll switch to firefox

[nocturne dust]

Brave is actually just as scummy as Chrome if not worse

[clear heath]

probably but i just don't care

I just want my adblocker

[nocturne dust]

That's fair so use Firefox

[vernal frost]

just get ublock lite and go back to chrome

[nocturne dust]

[vernal frost]

:cool emoji:

life is good

[nocturne dust]

and people wonder why society continues to decay
[insert old man rant here]

[vernal frost]

apparently they made it to comply with the new doohickey

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Chrome update specifically to interfere with adblocking

[vernal frost]

ye sucks to be google

but oh well

what can you do

[nocturne dust]

And every Chrome-based browser has to either get in line or start independently developing

[marble crater]

Switch to Firefox

[nocturne dust]

sucks to be a chrome-user*

[vernal frost]

says who

[nocturne dust]

Google loves it, that's why they did it

[nocturne dust]

says me

[vernal frost]

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-cat-sister-mei-stroking-my-chicken-cat-meme-gif-7389712976986151019

[deft stump]

Youtube tab after 15 mins.

Dunno how many ads did they try to shove into my face.

[nocturne dust]

I've started using adnauseum to mess with some websites

[deft stump]

That multiplied by number of YT tab can stack up, lmao.

[nocturne dust]

Youtube being one since they can't leave adblockers well enough alone

[deft stump]

Oh and it went up to 75 now.

In like, how long?

[nocturne dust]

To be fair, some of those might just be repeated load requests because the tab thinks it failed to load the ad (and it did, technically)

[deft stump]

Probs, also running Privacy Badger on the side.

[torpid comet]

i hate this ledge kill penance fr

why is there no 1 person private games fatshark 💔

[torpid comet]

6/7 😭

[vernal frost]

the humble many more try mod:

[torpid comet]

huh

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message have you read this for the penance?

[vernal frost]

get the mod, find an almost expired mission on https://maelstroom.net/ (one that isnt on mission board but still accessible)
load in

you dont get teammates

or if you're a console player just go on oce servers

those are dead anywayu

LOL

[deft stump]

PC is fine as well. It's dead hours.

The best you get is me, if i can be bothered to get on.

Assuming you look for heresy games.

Don't ask.

And yes, you might find people in aurics, but only MAYBE and MIGHT.

[torpid comet]

where is that in the mission?

[torpid comet]

ah ok

thanks

[marble crater]

Towards the end before you drop down after the long corridor

[torpid comet]

which is oce

[marble crater]

Or platform rather

[torpid comet]

ok thanks

[deft stump]

OCE is Asia and Pacific.

[torpid comet]

ah

[deft stump]

Central is dead at this hour.

[torpid comet]

i picked south asia pacific

[deft stump]

Just don't join auric and you'll probs be sitting with 3 bots the entire run.

[blissful solar]

https://otwako.github.io/darktide-mission/

[vernal frost]

o

cool

[torpid comet]

best pushing weapon?

[upper sun]

if you like push spam any weapon is good for that on psyker

[glacial vapor]

As in melee or are you trying to do something specific?

Force Blaze sword and Force Great sword have special push attacks that throw enemies back

[upper sun]

but all weapon pushes are the same the only diff is the stamina regen which is great on psyker

[torpid comet]

ledge kill penance

its pissing me off now

6/7

ability is buns pushing is buns

they barely move

[glacial vapor]

I can't remember how that works. Do they need to die or be pushed off for the penance?

[torpid comet]

die to fall damage

7 enemies in 2s

[glacial vapor]

Maybe voidblast staff?

[torpid comet]

maybe

[marble crater]

There is no way I just played with a speed running smite psyker, just no way

Rushing ahead, drop shield and smite while waiting for the rest of the team

[sharp shoal]

Just swapped ds for the greatsword on psyker and my dmg went up a lpt

I got 2 of em one dumped defense one dumped warp res

[proper osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C7tyLc this is what I’m upgrading

[wispy bay]

That's a 6.5k USD build.

Even if money is not an issue, I highly recommend to go against the liquid cooling.

[long wharf]

conversely, I highly recommend going with an AiO liquid cooling solution

[weary crane]

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[proper osprey]

7,100+ usd

If that liquid cooled 5090 was in stock

I’m probably not gonna get a 5090 anytime soon

Waaaayyyyy to scalped

[proper osprey]

I’m overlocking so I’ll need liquid

If I was rich and could throw money away I’d do a fully submerged build

I’ve been saving for for this for about 6 months

[copper jay]

They are good stats for others classes but not for Psyker because of Warp Resistance ?

[nocturne dust]

wat

[nocturne dust]

The line you're replying to is not about any specific stats in particular, but about RNG screwing you over

[copper jay]

RNG ? But most of 500 stats of the weekly shop weapons are full stats

I think ?

[nocturne dust]

Nope

They're fully leveled, sure, but the distribution is wrong

[marble crater]

4 month old message

[nocturne dust]

(normally)

[nocturne dust]

true

[analog agate]

How ya feeling?

[nocturne dust]

still ill, I think I'm getting worse

[strong gulch]

Nooo. Sorry fren. I hope body can get it together.

[nocturne dust]

Eh, this seems to happen once a year for me. Should last a week or so at most. I'm not that concerned yet.

[strong gulch]

kk

[copper jay]

Wait really ? Damn they must fix this ! 😭

[wispy bay]

It is intended to be like that.

[radiant frigate]

it is what it is

making perfect weapons is pretty simple now

melkbucks still good for curios

[prime elk]

me spending 20 minutes and 1m dockets rolling for an IAG because RNG keeps cucking me

[radiant frigate]

skull issue

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-mad-door-slam-quit-gif-22084787

[haughty star]

that's what i did with my 7800x3d 7900xtx 64gb and 2x2tb m.2 combo i'm rocking right now and now i'm bored because there's nothing i should logically upgrade lol

[fierce surge]

For the female which personality is better? Loner or Savant?

[proper osprey]

Yeah I just decided to future proof plus I get to brag about my motherboard lol

[proper osprey]

Loner

Female loner loves the male judge zealot btw

[fierce surge]

Oh? Lol okay what else? Are they more fun dialogue wise or smt?

[proper osprey]

I’d say a mix of both the female loner is really funny the female savant is just bland for me

[strong gulch]

Better is up to you. You can change your voice for free.

[proper osprey]

Yeah you can always change it

[fierce surge]

True true

[proper osprey]

Seer female be geekin

[patent mango]

seer getting the freshest memes from the emperor

[proper osprey]

Seer is so funny

[nocturne dust]

Seer

[proper osprey]

Seer, loose cannon, and loner are my favorites

In that order

[strong gulch]

Seer getting excited about stairs, scared of doors, and calling Ogryn beautiful.

[nocturne dust]

Note that this is specifically female seer

Male seer is psychotic

[proper osprey]

Male seer is peak

“You keep killing them before I can do unspeakable things to them!”

[nocturne dust]

Male seer is a real sigma. Allies die? Doesn't care. Enemies ahead? Doesn't care. Bro only cares about his Beloved and murder.

[proper osprey]

Or the one where he says he’ll “persuade” masozi

[prime elk]

i keep forgetting which one my psyker is

is seer the only one that talks about beloved?

[proper osprey]

He cares about his siblings and orgyns

A little

[prime elk]

ok yeah i think i'm running male seer

[nocturne dust]

He doesn't, actually.

[prime elk]

he's great

[nocturne dust]

He literally goes 'Oh, Ogryn's dead" apathetically when Ogryn dies

[proper osprey]

Oh yeah he literally said not to over invest in individuals

[prime elk]

specifically when in reference to ogryns isn't it lol

[proper osprey]

He’s just happy to be here he’s so funny

I like how he thinks the female loose cannon and male fanatic are his friend

[nocturne dust]

As I would expect a person who believes reality to be a dream to take an eternally-dark and horrifically-brutal war

[patent mango]

female seer after ogryn dead "beelooveed bring him baaack :("

[nocturne dust]

He does show some concern when other psykers die, probably because they're the only ones he considers actual people

[proper osprey]

I love the navigator helmet on him

Loner is cool he cares some about his siblings

[proper osprey]

“Seems to if I didn’t run empiric resolve i would have had toughness and not died and it would’ve been a non-issue” live @nocturne dust reaction

[fiery plume]

what primary weapon do you fellars like to use?

[patent mango]

greatswor

[verbal thistle]

tactical axe

[fiery plume]

thanks ill try em out

[nocturne dust]

Actual Live DeadVoid Reaction:

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[cloud sequoia]

wait i just realised psyker have combat shotgun, i can do funny scier gaze manstopper

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-red-red-cat-evil-cat-normal-cat-gif-7123425318368299957

[restive slate]

I now understand the recon meta for gunpsyker

It's just so many crits...

...and so much ammo lost hahaha

[verbal thistle]

btw if you shoot your gun less you use less ammo

[nocturne dust]

Vraks:

[restive slate]

Problem is I blank out everytime the recon crits start going

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

[restive slate]

Also my pants mysteriously gets moist after for some reason

[fierce surge]

Thinking about a voidblast staff build any advice? Talent tree is available except for melee cuz I have a preference

[restive slate]

My current one applies soulblaze, though I heard in havoc the Rending Shovkwave has some use

[nocturne dust]

I would say rending is definitely more useful for the team if you have an Inferno staff psyker alongside

[spiral storm]

is voidblast the trauma staff?

I don't like the renames

[nocturne dust]

yes

[patent mango]

no1 likes the renames so far

[spiral storm]

Surge staff: Is actually single target smite
Smite ability: Is actually crowd wide surging electricity

[fierce surge]

Rending shockwave you say? I already have a soul fire build so, I’m curious

[analog agate]

I’m starting to feel at my point in darktide. EK is better than VB

[spiral storm]

One of the blessings gives rending on trauma

it's cool but unecessary

[drifting steeple]

i trusted my bf to tell me which void staff was what and he told me the wrong staff

[spiral storm]

EK? VB?

[drifting steeple]

even as someone who had no frame of reference to the previous names im still confused!

[nocturne dust]

In aurics?

It better be in aurics

[drifting steeple]

i feel like you can look at what the staves do and "strike" and "blast" could be used for both and it would make sense

[nocturne dust]

Eh, strike makes more sense for voidstrike imo

You literally dump blast radius with it

[drifting steeple]

but its still an explosion

[nocturne dust]

that you ignore

in favor of ball cleave

[analog agate]

In regular yeah. I haven’t used EK in any meaningful time in high havocs

[drifting steeple]

also like

[nocturne dust]

EK is king in Aurics, yeah, that hasn't changed

[spiral storm]

wtf is EK

[drifting steeple]

playing w vb feels like an entirely different game

[analog agate]

Electrokinetic staff

[drifting steeple]

electrokinetic

[nocturne dust]

Electrokinetic (Surge)

[spiral storm]

oh, surge

[drifting steeple]

yeah idk why they changed the names the previous ones were more catchy

[restive slate]

Like SPAAAAAAA said, in normal games Rending Shockwave is unnecessary. It may have some use in late Havoc due to the pox skin enemies

[fresh reef]

Fuck it, raw damage time

[nocturne dust]

EK does fall behind very, very hard in Havocs due to its... minimal cleave and overreliance on shriek to clear groups (which you don't want to take because bubble)

[cloud sequoia]

Bruh

Where soulblaze

[spiral storm]

I would say trauma is """strongest"""

[nocturne dust]

Still better than Voidstrike tho

[spiral storm]

if you just spam trauma even with half charge

[drifting steeple]

like electroknitic and fire whatever is distinct enough but voidblast and voidstrike is criminal, i will die on this hill

[spiral storm]

you can stun the entire horde over and over

[analog agate]

You would play EK in havocs like a vet who is anti-shooter/specialist

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but why do that with Psyker?

Just play Vet and do it better

[analog agate]

Infinite ammo

[nocturne dust]

Shout > ammo

Yellow toughness 🤤

[analog agate]

Shout is good.

One of these days I will play with a group to try EK out

I have done it with pubs and the group is horrendous

[nocturne dust]

Json does it and it works fine, but he uses FGS and abuses the infinite cleave on that

[nocturne dust]

and largely plays as a meleeker

but yeah, it's no Trauma/Inferno.

[spiral storm]

Shout is OP

but not even shout can stand up to shooter spam

[nocturne dust]

At least it's not Voidstrike tho

[spiral storm]

basically the biggest upside of psyker is bubble buddy

[drifting steeple]

sobs i love voidstrike...

[nocturne dust]

I do too

Voidstrike is my fav staff

[fresh reef]

This plus giving everyone a damage buff

[analog agate]

Biggest upside of psyker in havocs is being a psyker who is OP

[nocturne dust]

But I will acknowledge it is also the weakest staff, not that it needs a buff... unless you're looking to balance Havoc, but Havoc has so many issues with balance anyway

[spiral storm]

yeah, psykers who are willing to can just turn off a horde

either with trauma spam

or uuuum...

smite

[nocturne dust]

or inferno

[fresh reef]

infinite ammo grenade that reduces enemy armor

lol

[analog agate]

Void is fine. I personally wish it had faster charging

[nocturne dust]

or creeping flames

[nocturne dust]

In Havoc, it never cleaves due to all the carapace

[analog agate]

Oh yeah. In havoc it is horrible. I meant regular

[nocturne dust]

It becomes effectively a single-target weapon for the situations where you really need it to not, and becomes worse EK

Outside Havoc tho, yeah, is fine

[analog agate]

But not everything has to be viable in high havoc

[spiral storm]

I wish it was changed to be like

[fresh reef]

EK but it burns stuff

[spiral storm]

psyker plasma gun

[fresh reef]

Like, fireball staff

But bad

[analog agate]

I guess we will see come 3 weeks. For the increased havoc difficulty

[nocturne dust]

imagine using blazing spirit with VS

[nocturne dust]

"We heard the shooter complaints so we made it worse"

[fresh reef]

It's fun

[nocturne dust]

Ballspam is fun

Blazing spirit VS is just flame sword, fun in theory but literally nothing in practice

[patent mango]

helppp help meeeeee

[analog agate]

God I hope not. Change it somehow. Either nerf or separate into modifiers that don’t happen all the time

I know there will be changes. I think with the current mods?

They mentioned it in the blog

[drifting steeple]

oh man i cant wait for all the mods to break sadge

[nocturne dust]

The update is now nothing has invulnerability periods, including bubble, and nothing protects against overheads, including yellow toughness/parry/Ogryn's upcoming node/shield special

You will play max damage meta and like it

[analog agate]

Playtesters were saying they started forming meta as 2 ogryns/2 others for havocs

Playtester.* As in Hank

[nocturne dust]

That sounds sus unless they drastically change fading light

which could be a thing

[dull scroll]

wtf is this

[nocturne dust]

XP exploits

[analog agate]

Played with them before. At least they don’t suck

That person and a level 5k person I have seen

[loud slate]

trying revolver right now

[nocturne dust]

They used to be a thing and Fatshark never removed the excess

[loud slate]

its less ammo efficient than I would thought

[analog agate]

Apparently there is some actual person who has put 1000s of hours into the game though. Unhealthy, or at least extremely addictive, imo

[nocturne dust]

Well, of course

but there is a very literal limit to the max amount of XP you can earn given the time since Darktide's release is finite

not sure what that limit is tho, don't think people bother to max XP farming normally, lol

[analog agate]

Ya. It one of those 4-5k players is legit

[dull scroll]

😔

[analog agate]

Yeah, I mean 3-4k hours. Many here have 1-2k

[patent mango]

darktide is the only game though

[analog agate]

I also assume Ainz did some of that xp stuff. I don’t see how his total level is so high with around 2.5k hours

[fathom adder]

I can't go by my own time since I have left the game running in the background while working from home, or doing other stuff. Or going to work a 12 hour shift plus 1 hour drive each way. Or that time I left the PC running with Darktide open and left for 2 weeks

[patent mango]

meta strat to avoid loadtimes

[drifting steeple]

my playtime is inflated by THE LOADING SCREENS

[sharp shoal]

which version of the blaze greatsword is better

i orginally started playing on pc

moved to xbox

[nocturne dust]

They're equal. Pick which moveset you prefer.

[sharp shoal]

i got 2 in my inventory

[drifting steeple]

thats certainly a diagram

[sharp shoal]

one dumped defense the other dumped warp res

[nocturne dust]

Dump warp res

[sharp shoal]

one dumped that and the other dumped defense

[nocturne dust]

FGS you really don't want to dump anything else because defense affects mobility and FGS' mobility is already low

[sharp shoal]

i got both already

thats weird

considering how fast my psyker moves with the defense dumped

but fair

[nocturne dust]

It's one of the slowest meta weapons Psyker has, only beaten by Psyker's staves which have a negative speed bonus

[sharp shoal]

i move faster with the fgs then with dueling sword with defense dumped

[nocturne dust]

Well, you're literally wrong there

[sharp shoal]

it seems that way for me

[prime elk]

fgs is slow as fuck

[sharp shoal]

the staves are weird

and i was saying movement speed

[prime elk]

esp compared to DS with move techs

[nocturne dust]

You may have some movement speed buffs

[sharp shoal]

i run faster with the great sword

then with dueling sword

[buoyant maple]

You should record and check time

Same distance

[sharp shoal]

i'll work on that

[nocturne dust]

Maybe they're just proccing mettle on FGS more easily

[sharp shoal]

i was using dueling sword on psyker

then swapped to fgs

to deal with hordes better for a soul blaze set up

[nocturne dust]

I mean, soulblaze generally deals with hordes but that's beside the point

[sharp shoal]

yes but i also need it for crushers

[nocturne dust]

Dueling Sword does crushers better

DS is the single-target killer

[sharp shoal]

it takes me 3 hits with ds

i can overhead then poke with fgs

and they die

[nocturne dust]

Right, now stack uncanny

[sharp shoal]

the fgs stab does a lot of dmg

[nocturne dust]

now without buffs you can't

[sharp shoal]

thats with the build i go

[nocturne dust]

mk6 takes 4 hits unbuffed, mk8 3 hits unbuffed

[sharp shoal]

got

i changed my build to use fgs

cause was killing crushers to slow with ds

[nocturne dust]

assuming no crits

[nocturne dust]

[sharp shoal]

my soul blaze build

uses crits

[nocturne dust]

A lot of what you're saying is backwards

[sharp shoal]

so that explains why

[nocturne dust]

Not really

unless you're assuming FGS crits and DS doesn't, but that's pretty unfair

as far as comparisons go

[sharp shoal]

i use mark 5 ds

not 4

[nocturne dust]

Well, use mk4 🤷‍♂️

[sharp shoal]

i prefer 5

[nocturne dust]

also that's weird

[sharp shoal]

thats the thing

[nocturne dust]

mk5 is the most mobile one iirc

it's even faster than mk4

[sharp shoal]

i prefer the mark 5 to 4 because its funny

[proper osprey]

Spit that shit

Mk5 is soooo good

[sharp shoal]

its really fun to use

[proper osprey]

I love it

[sharp shoal]

i use it a lot on vet to

[proper osprey]

Better hoard clear than 4

[sharp shoal]

i got a krieger set up on my vet

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you do you, but both mk4 and mk2 should be faster than FGS iirc.

[proper osprey]

Same

[sharp shoal]

the og black krieger outfit

helbore

[nocturne dust]

By quite a bit, too

[sharp shoal]

and either shovel or ds

with the skins

trench tool and the cavarly saber

[nocturne dust]

in terms of killing crushers and movement speed

mk5 should at least be faster speed-wise, dunno how you think it's slower

[sharp shoal]

just seems like it

might be a me thing

i'll try the dumped warp res fgs tomorrow

[nocturne dust]

Well, you're free to record evidence. Maybe you've encountered a bug or maybe we're all wrong and stupid.

[proper osprey]

Yeah always dump warp res on everything

[nocturne dust]

except voidstrike

[proper osprey]

Kinda?

[sharp shoal]

void strike is really good for big targets

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike dumps blast radius

[proper osprey]

I use scries with voidstrike

[sharp shoal]

scrier is very solid dr when managed right

[nocturne dust]

Yes, and?

[proper osprey]

What the slop

[sharp shoal]

but its dififcult to maximize

[nocturne dust]

Do you think warp res is less valuable with Scrier's?

[proper osprey]

I love it with trauma

[nocturne dust]

The end explosion is meaningless and that's all blast radius effects

[sharp shoal]

i use it with illsi and las pistol

[proper osprey]

15 seconds of explosions

[proper osprey]

Oh I see

[nocturne dust]

Blast Radius might've been useful if it touched the ball size

but no

😔

[sharp shoal]

also

the only gun i dump collarteral on

is the bolt gun

because its unnecesarry

it would be cool for vet to get a infernus pistol

its a melta weapon variant

[nocturne dust]

Collateral is dumpable on a lot of guns depending on if you like stagger or not.

There's good logic against it since stagger moves the weakspot away from your reticle

[sharp shoal]

bolt gun has a lot of stagger at base already

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e649e67-2be4-46c0-8293-31b1fa98a69f/terrible-trauma-build

[sharp shoal]

and i typically dump it on twin stubber to

[proper osprey]

You can really run whatever for melee with this

[sharp shoal]

for quite a while

[proper osprey]

I like knife for creating distance

[sharp shoal]

i was using only trauma staff

[nocturne dust]

the title is extremely correct

[proper osprey]

Same

[sharp shoal]

trauma and deimos

deimos for deleting muties

[proper osprey]

Ur so mean…

You need to be nice to me

[sharp shoal]

also

certain walls in game

muties can still push you through

[proper osprey]

Yarp

[sharp shoal]

i got pushed through a wall of boxes on the phage tree map

and got stuck

[nocturne dust]

I will when you figure out ER is good

[proper osprey]

@nocturne dust try the build

[nocturne dust]

no

[sharp shoal]

its still better then being clipped under the map and dieing

[nocturne dust]

I don't even need to

There are so many bad parts to it, why would I?

[proper osprey]

Mmmm yes I love absolutely destroying my toughness regen

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[proper osprey]

Me likes it

[sharp shoal]

what does the er stand for

[nocturne dust]

You can like bad things

[nocturne dust]

Empyric Resolve

[proper osprey]

This is like saying just don’t get hit

[sharp shoal]

oh that

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[proper osprey]

But it’s real just don’t get hit

[sharp shoal]

actually

thats a fair trade off

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you can get hit with ER and be perfectly fine

[sharp shoal]

on a high burst dmg build for something like voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

if ER is affecting your ability to survive at high levels, the actual problem is you suck at avoiding damage

which is going to get you killed anyway

because psyker is always squishy

[sharp shoal]

its like i see people running extra wounds on heresy and damn

wounds only create bad habits

[proper osprey]

Yeah a lot of people love them

For some reason

[sharp shoal]

if you need them then you are not at the level you need to be for heresy and damn

[proper osprey]

Even on zealot I hate Marty

[sharp shoal]

cause on high end if you go down most of the time you will die

the wound is not important

it gets you killed

[proper osprey]

Rework Marty to based on health

[sharp shoal]

its like my favorite auric set up zealot

is

crusher and double barrel

[proper osprey]

That’s not bad

[sharp shoal]

its satisfying to pop a sniper with the double barrel and crusher has infinite cleave

[proper osprey]

You use the same setup as the thammer as you do crusher

[sharp shoal]

for hordes

[nocturne dust]

[buoyant maple]

Open Darktide, click on your psyker in character select, press X and confirm

[nocturne dust]

Excuse me?

[sharp shoal]

lol

[sharp shoal]

[proper osprey]

He hates scries trauma

[sharp shoal]

this is more fitting

[nocturne dust]

Completely fair

[sharp shoal]

and yes before you ask that is the entire movie

[buoyant maple]

Tbh, it’s not that bad

But choosing a crit build VB without blazing spirit is just kinda weird

[drifting steeple]

is this a sure fire way to get the penance for scriers

[sharp shoal]

its the spongebob movie as a gif emote

[buoyant maple]

No, that penance is super easy, u just kill horde

[nocturne dust]

don't worry, I'm sure the DD precision bonus will fix that

[drifting steeple]

i honestly havent touch scriers for a while

[deft stump]

Surefire is getting on train mission and blasting the door with Strike.

[proper osprey]

Yeah you can do it with blazing spirt or that it’s kinda just what you prefer

[drifting steeple]

played more bubble and venting

[deft stump]

Quell inbetween blasts when it gets too high.

[proper osprey]

I hate bubble

[sharp shoal]

i like the lil shield

it stuns specialist

[proper osprey]

Me can’t stand bubble

[sharp shoal]

good for cutting off dogs muties and bursters

[nocturne dust]

I can't think of a worse build for Trauma from a player that is semi-competent that isn't intentional

[proper osprey]

Ok true

[sharp shoal]

not the bubble

the other shield

[nocturne dust]

Bubble > Wall

[proper osprey]

Just don’t blow up and you turn off the game

[sharp shoal]

it has 100% chance to stun specailist

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[proper osprey]

Shrimpel as

[sharp shoal]

theres literally a penance where you have to blow up tho

[nocturne dust]

So, every trauma build, you say?

[sharp shoal]

easiest penance in the game to

[proper osprey]

Can we get a true?

[sharp shoal]

[drifting steeple]

i tried doing perils of the warp with smite and i was very confused why it wasnt working

[buoyant maple]

But it is a lot better with the other 2 keystones lol

[proper osprey]

I absolutely agree

but it’s a lot of tax

And the slight damage boots and crit boost is good

[nocturne dust]

You take Warp Expenditure, dawg

You can definitely afford a tax

[proper osprey]

Me when I like toughness

[nocturne dust]

Me when the guy that likes toughness doesn't even grab essence harvest

smh my head

0/10

[sharp shoal]

[nocturne dust]

Warp Expenditure is literally the worst 'regular' defensive node. The only nodes that are worse are Unlucky for Some, Psychic Leeching, and... I guess Souldrinker counts?

[proper osprey]

I do grab it on my purg staff :3

[nocturne dust]

Well, actually, psychic leeching with assail is not too bad sometimes for toughness

soooo remove that one

[proper osprey]

My build used to be bb with ep

And purg

I loved it

[buoyant maple]

In that case,

Open Darktide, click on your psyker in character select, press X and confirm

[nocturne dust]

complains about 'just dodge' advice
looks inside
only defensive nodes

[proper osprey]

Then I realized the worth of warp charges

They jumpin me

[nocturne dust]

wroth or worth?

[proper osprey]

Freaking haters

[sharp shoal]

lol

[proper osprey]

I can’t spell

[sharp shoal]

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/870802009945702521/1314087528139329626/rapidsave.com_ab6gxtphzu4e1.gif

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/bluey-bandit-dad-heeler-we-can-edit-that-right-we-can-edit-that-gif-15324339197646037370

[still valve]

Warp charges my beloved

[nocturne dust]

The Edit was made for spelling mistakes 🙏

I hate all keystones

[proper osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367834588753690655/1211694416818086018/vegeta_smart.gif

[nocturne dust]

Except Focus Target

[sharp shoal]

[nocturne dust]

Focus Target is cool

[sharp shoal]

[still valve]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-adam-warlock-dont-be-rash-will-poulter-marvel-gif-7269497775167346680

[sharp shoal]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[sharp shoal]

entire movie emotes

[proper osprey]

You smell so bad

[sharp shoal]

so far i got spongebob shrek and bee movie

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/580240175632744450/1311833000874348594/caption-6.gif

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/pacino-al-al-pacino-always-devils-advocate-gif-22765866

[proper osprey]

Real that’s our aura

[sharp shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/plague-ogryn-ogryn-reaction-live-reaction-plague-ogryn-live-reaction-gif-1395788199602766548

[nocturne dust]

We do spend a lot of time wading through waist-high nurgle filth

[proper osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[nocturne dust]

I feel like that would make anyone smell

[still valve]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-reaction-reaction-elite-dangerous-borann-boys-gif-25049405

[sharp shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-the-horse-is-here-peter-griffin-horse-honse-family-guy-gif-27283357

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/live-smaug-reaction-lotr-hobbit-gif-14577150845272387065

[sharp shoal]

lol

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/man-face-roblox-man-face-roblox-man-face-gif-47048955968819085

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-milk-cat-anime-milk-gif-23177860

[still valve]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748003037318086761/1147981887713845329/whakama-gif.gif

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1287161017205526608/s3OnVwp.gif

New zealot chat enabled

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-get-real-spongebob-get-real-spongebob-face-spongebob-ugly-gif-13309562138513808785

[drifting steeple]

whats the best class and why is it psyker

[nocturne dust]

It's not.

Best class is mathematics.

[proper osprey]

Zealot is pretty good

I always end up going back to psyker

[drifting steeple]

real

[proper osprey]

And can someone show me how to use custom hud?

[drifting steeple]

why play zealot when you can play melee psyker? why play vet when you can play gunker?

[nocturne dust]

press the hotkey in the settings of the mod

[proper osprey]

Melee psyker is so fun

[nocturne dust]

move square boxes as needed

[proper osprey]

I do

[nocturne dust]

K, now you should see boxes

[proper osprey]

They won’t friggn move

[nocturne dust]

they represent your UI elements

move with arrow keys iirc? Or movement keys, I can't remember

[proper osprey]

I’ll try

Narp

[nocturne dust]

Because Zealot and Vet are better at those niches

[drifting steeple]

at this point i only play either class bc they have weapons i like psyker doesnt have

[nocturne dust]

Funny, I play psyker because staves

[sharp shoal]

we had fun in a run the other day

[nocturne dust]

ew, illegal

[sharp shoal]

plague ogryn busted out a wall and ran into our zealot and knocked him right into a dh

it didn't end well for the zealot

it was really funny though

[nocturne dust]

[insert megamind with "No Kinetic Deflection?"]

[sharp shoal]

i felt bad though

cause we were to busy fighting the ogryn to try and save the zealot

also ds with kd and a 3 stam is good for dh fights

i also had some stamina regen on my curious

only dmg i took was the corruption aura no actual damage from the dh

[fallow token]

nvm

[junior linden]

I think I like knife on psyker after trying it out (I hate dueling sword I'm tired of it)

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-knife-running-with-knives-gif-13862209

[fresh reef]

Warp rupture is really fun to play with

With perfectionism it's basically equivalent to a kickback that you have on cooldown

~500 damage

Plus it procs flayer

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[fresh reef]

It's absolutely not good, mind

But it is fun to instantly get like 60% of my toughness when I pop my ability

[nocturne dust]

Defensive utility? In my psyker? Impossible

[fresh reef]

Also

The rag dolls are really, really funny

[nocturne dust]

I do wish I had a version of trauma that was just the stagger

[fresh reef]

They don't have any kind of death animation, they just get void farted on and collapse onto the floor

[fresh reef]

I think a blessing that reduces your damage and gives you way more stagger would be cool

[nocturne dust]

Only if it gives me enough stagger to launch green muties out of a charge and into the stratosphere

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-kitty-yeet-funny-gif-21938191

that's nurgle-blessed green, not range resist. Why are they both green anyway

[fresh reef]

They are different greens

[nocturne dust]

I'm a gamer, green is green until it is red or blue

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-crunchycat-plink-gif-1911426650134889656

[ornate hamlet]

I'm trying to make a build where I use nothing but smite anyone have any ideas

[marble crater]

Pick venting shriek and the middle keystone, but please don't only use smite

[ornate hamlet]

I'm not going to only use Smite

I'm a supporter for my team I only use it when there is huge hordes

@marble crater

[weary idol]

assuming you are going to be a support is the first step to disaster

you build for smite you better be building warp damage to kill things

[left crypt]

hans look at your dms

[tiny river]

Palpatine gameplay

[marble crater]

You can do this with EK staff and illisi, that will be enough to use smite in big emergencies with a lot of melee elites

[ornate hamlet]

Unlimited power indeed

[weary idol]

why would you use warp charges if you want to use smite

[marble crater]

Because they are for venting shriek and actually doing something like damage, the smite is just for emergencies

[deft stump]

He wants support so I assume bubble.

[marble crater]

I will die before I recommend bubble smite

The one from yesterday gave me trauma, he sat in a corner for 5 minutes smiting in a bubble while we did the event

[deft stump]

Lul. But is just what comes to mind.

[marble crater]

And then he rushed ahead of the team only to smite the enemies while waiting for us

[deft stump]

I dunno man. I have seen both types.

Yesterday was 1 vet 3 psykers every game.

I'm the vet btw.

[marble crater]

What else would you be, do you even have a psyker

[deft stump]

You know my Zealot. And you know my Psyker.

[marble crater]

When is the last time you played the psyker?

[deft stump]

I dunno. For MM.

[nocturne dust]

Karien isn't even a normal dam player so I'm not sure they should be recommending things

at least when it comes to effectiveness, no offense intended

While a full support isn't really a thing, you can definitely play a more-cooperative role as a psyker. It would probably not be with smite since that, y'know, disables all of Zealot's on-dodge stuff if you hold it for any duration.

The best 'support' would probably be Rending Trauma with Bubble, but at the same time that also happens to be one of the strongest builds on psyker period, and one of the most damaging (though certainly there are a good number more damaging).

[deft stump]

Oh, I play auric damns actually. Mostly cos nobody plays any other diff at the time I do play. I just like joking about only playing heresy.

[nocturne dust]

But they also asked for a smite build, so that's just the standard Empowered Psionics + Creeping Flames (or Warp Unbound) for unlimited lightning.

[nocturne dust]

Noted

[quartz barn]

Rending trauma with bubble isnt even support

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes

but it is supportive, moreso than other builds

[quartz barn]

Debuffs enemies and protects the team sure

But you also have one of the highest dmg outputs in the game lmao

[deft stump]

So ppl have 0 to negative 99 expectations of/from me. Since my play is very spotty and can range day to day.

[nocturne dust]

like, Inferno is often selfish in a way since you need enemies to come to you and also apply the first stack of soulblaze for Blaze Away and you interfere with other blazers (like Fire Trauma, who also interfere with you) without any real positives

[azure parcel]

is fire trauma worse than rending trauma?

[nocturne dust]

and Fire Trauma has the same issue of interfering with Inferno

[azure parcel]

or vice versa?

[quartz barn]

Dw void is just super elite so you cant compare properly

[nocturne dust]

They're dependent on comp

[nocturne dust]

I mean, all I have of Karien is their own word that they only play Heresy and are scared of higher diffs sooooooooooooooo

[deft stump]

I know he's an elitist in mindset. And I just casually slack around.

[nocturne dust]

I take people at their word 😭

[deft stump]

I still am scared. I just do it anyway.

I don't wanna fail the team.

I fear I might be the weak link.

[quartz barn]

Fire trauma is better by default, but rending does more the higher the diff imo

[deft stump]

And then I see half the pool in Aurics and is like...

[nocturne dust]

Fire Trauma is generally better, but Rending Trauma is sometimes better in high havoc due to carapace densities and the fact it doesn't interfere with other psykers

[deft stump]

This feels like heresy but far worse again.

[nocturne dust]

Rending Trauma is never far behind Fire Trauma, though. It's still Trauma.

[deft stump]

Why am I last one standing? This is all wrong.

[quartz barn]

Mostly the interference bit

Reason i have a rending trauma setup is purely for duo psyker setups

But imo purg is better when youre the only psyker due to EE

So you can frontline

But i highly pref trauma

[nocturne dust]

I kinda disagree. Rending Trauma raises the whole team's damage, so even without other psykers you are doing more in high Havoc than one might see from the scoreboard

40% brittleness in a wide AoE is no joke

[quartz barn]

No i meant for fire trauma

My rending trauma actively avoids any soulblaze + has a diff passive

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes

[oak gale]

do RT stacks from different psykers stack

[nocturne dust]

That's what I'm saying

Even as a solo psyker, Rending Trauma can be better than Fire Trauma in high Havoc imo

[nocturne dust]

RT? What is RT?

[oak gale]

rending trauma

[summer prairie]

no flurry feels bad

[nocturne dust]

No

[quartz barn]

I assume rending stacks

[nocturne dust]

Brittleness never stacks EXCEPT for Penetrating Flame

[summer prairie]

well it stacks but only up to 40%

[nocturne dust]

Brittleness always caps at 40%, except Penetrating Flame which can stack on top to a total of 60% (but 20% by itself)

[weary idol]

do yourself a favor and switch to brain burst

[nocturne dust]

yeh that

[weary idol]

smite without EP is genuinely completely worthless

[quartz barn]

Phrase youre looking for is limited returns

[nocturne dust]

PF is neat

[quartz barn]

Stacks yes, worth it nah

[nocturne dust]

It's not meta but it's neat

[deft stump]

To be fair, how else am I doing H40 with less than 10 deaths?

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn meta soon

maybe that way

[quartz barn]

Proper dodges i guess, or have ee dodge for you

[deft stump]

No. As in, I'm doing it with less than that.

Even playing with Vet mains.

[quartz barn]

Youll have to dodge 2 sec in advance however with your ping xd

[deft stump]

So no bubble.

Their psyker is vent builds, all I'm saying.

[nocturne dust]

Void gaming

[deft stump]

Train muties is impossible. No space.

Need to press dodge half the map away.

[nocturne dust]

You don't need space

You just need an itty bitty smidgen of elbow room

[radiant frigate]

i do need space (i press it to dodge)

[nocturne dust]

I think I mapped my dodge to B

[deft stump]

Yes, but the joke is more, I usually use it to tell when I need to press it.

Can't near melee dodge as I normally can.

Diff between 9 ping and 270 ping.

[nocturne dust]

just listen for the sound and know you were supposed to dodge 20 seconds earlier

and then use your at-home time travel device to go back 20 seconds to dodge

[deft stump]

415 is flat impossible.

[quartz barn]

You can always run ds and onetap them one after the other

[radiant frigate]

415 as in 415ms ping?

Death

[patent jacinth]

Or FGS

Or heavy sword

Or force sword

Or knife

[quartz barn]

Can fgs and heavy sword even do that while standing still

[deft stump]

Yes. I found out the hard way that day. Was wondering why am I in South Africa.

Then asked, they said EU. Checked.

Yep.

[quartz barn]

I know fgs cant if you dont have maniac

[patent jacinth]

Stab

Heavy sword does it easy

[deft stump]

Nu. Knoife is life. DS4 only for H40 tryhard.

[quartz barn]

Ye ok but do you have the time for that

[radiant frigate]

shamk

[nocturne dust]

You can onetap muties with thrust and +mutant in Havoc

[patent jacinth]

For what, the stab? It’s part of my heavy loop

[nocturne dust]

[deft stump]

But then you have thrust.

[nocturne dust]

The best blessing, yes

[deft stump]

Nu, agile my beloved.

Uncanny my best friend.

[patent jacinth]

Agile is gross

It’s only on weapons that don’t need it

[deft stump]

I want on knoife.

Uncanny Agile knoife...

Wet dream, yes.

[nocturne dust]

Uncanny is kinda eh for me since I'm staff psyker

Crushers are normally dead before they get to me, and the odd one that gets close isn't enough to really stack it

Even on Inferno, since I run PF and also just avoid crushers

[deft stump]

Panic stroke slash with Illisi at that point.

[nocturne dust]

why would I ever run Illisi with Inferno

[deft stump]

Because.

[nocturne dust]

Souka.

[deft stump]

Is more, I never could use the deimos right.

[nocturne dust]

but... is ez

just heavy

[plucky flax]

Don't flame she carry me to havoc 40 as a sedition player.

[nocturne dust]

Tru

[plucky flax]

Thank you based SG grill.

[nocturne dust]

I did not account for dat

[deft stump]

You two stop being like vet and oggy mains.

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

They already bulli me about it wehhhhhhh

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/monday-mpreg-mpreg-monday-omori-mari-gif-6568340145174634279

[nocturne dust]

Stop putting yourself down then

[deft stump]

Because truth.

[nocturne dust]

The technical optimal combo for Deimos is something like l1->h2->repeating h spam

because getting back to l1 takes just a tad too long or something

[deft stump]

Is more using it on hordes.

[nocturne dust]

but like, it doesn't matter, just H spam

oh hordes

[deft stump]

It feels like DS4.

[nocturne dust]

Take slaughterer and light spam

will definitely clear better than ds4

Like, Deimos' only issue with horde clear is its angle of attack

[plucky flax]

Deimos with slaughterer light spam horde clear is kinda gud

[deft stump]

Cos if things are THAT close, I'm pulling out melee unless doing memes on malice or hav 1-10.

[nocturne dust]

ye

[nocturne dust]

Just staff them

[plucky flax]

With 10% attack speed talent you swing kinda fast things just die.

And the random poke if hit elite just 1 shot them Xd

[deft stump]

You mean recon hordes.

[nocturne dust]

Imagine using a gun on the only class that doesn't need them

smh my head

[marble crater]

I do play with Brain Burst, but they asked for a smite build that doesn't only use smite. So recommended this for emergency smites while still having the regular EK shriek power with warp charges

[deft stump]

I vet, what you mean?

[nocturne dust]

Vet with Deimos

[deft stump]

Runs off.

[deft stump]

Honestly, wouldn't mind that.

[nocturne dust]

Well yeah

Deimos would probably be even stronger on a class that can boost it well

[deft stump]

Is just DS4 but I can block guns.

[nocturne dust]

no KD tho

[deft stump]

And DS4 on vet is well, op.

[nocturne dust]

Vet's stamina go

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-explode-spongebob-explosion-gif-22938834

[deft stump]

WDYM?

[nocturne dust]

Blocking ranged is pretty taxing on stamina

[deft stump]

Has both -0.25 nodes on recon build.

[nocturne dust]

[deft stump]

That's just budget psyker, right?

[nocturne dust]

Well, no, you'd probably be superior Gunker

Access to more ammo, access to passive nodes that constantly buff your damage... I mean I'm not sure how many of the good stuff you can get when splitting for those -delay nodes, but they are by the way to some good stuff anyway

[deft stump]

Is dumb onslaught memes.

I guess Illisi be better then.

Illisi my beloved.

[lapis violet]

😍 MILK 😍

[copper jay]

So I tried the EK Staff yesterday

After I played Voidstrike (cannonball staff), the EK staff seems ... The assisted aim staff

[glacial vapor]

You have to work a lot harder with Voidstrike than the other for sure

[lapis violet]

it's alright but, as with autoaim in any game (terraria being my most recent example with chlorophyte bullets or the homing mage staves), not getting to choose which guy you shoot exactly is a problem more times than i'd like it to be

used to be my favorite staff of them all before i hopped on the purg and trauma train

[tiny river]

Psyker mains when it comes to choosing a havoc build:

[summer prairie]

Surge targets whatever is closest to your cursor, sure there's no cleave

but choosing targets is not a problem

https://streamable.com/77foev

[copper jay]

Yes but you have infinite Ammo so this is not THAT bad to miss your shots

[ornate hamlet]

@blissful solar

[glacial vapor]

It is if the enemies are already on top of you lol

[blissful solar]

oh I see, you're a console gamer so dont have scoreboard. that number is your team's total kills

[lapis violet]

i love having to snipe the 1px that of a critical target which no other staff would ever have to do due to their cleave/pierce

[summer prairie]

not like trauma targetting is going to be free and purg will take forever to kill it

and voidstrike takes a year

all the elites are taller than the horde so it's not very hard

[lapis violet]

i never said it's bad. i still like the feel of zapping people to death, and, if i'm not mistaken also being the best staff for dealing with monstros, but the other staves just hit different

and not being able to clear hordes super well with a staff makes me sad

[ornate hamlet]

I didn't know there was a difference

[marble crater]

Mods for console when?

[copper jay]

What EK enjoyers like about this staff ?

Voidstrike is ranged without ammos
Inferno is horde clear without cleave problems
Voidblast is versatile with horde clear and longer range than inferno

But what EK bring to the table ?

[summer prairie]

kills elites/specialists faster than any other staff

[copper jay]

Voidstrike on a corridor is insanely fun when they are a lot of ranged and elites/specialist are hiding behind everyone

[marble crater]

You can be a lot more aggressive and mobile with EK, imo.

[lapis violet]

boss and spec/elite killing, emperor palpatine rp

[marble crater]

Can just stun crushers, ragers, maulers while dancing around them and if you hear a special you can quickly turn around and kill it and then continue to bully the crushers. Horde spawns? Shriek them and they die together with anything that's not a crusher

[lapis violet]

also, the stun is a stun, a stagger, not a push down

trauma explodes and suddenly things move everywhere

good luck to the veteran or zealot trying to shoot down a corridor or hit melee weakspots

[copper jay]

Yeah the stagger seems really strong but I think the VS has a stagger too if you headshot ? (Tell me if i'm wrong, 3 weeks since I started the game. Always eager to learn about the best class of the game)

[copper jay]

Trauma is ... Voidblast ?
Surge is ... EK ?

[marble crater]

Yes

[lapis violet]

what the fuck is voidblast