psyker-class

[night garnet]

what mark force greatsword would you guys recommend?

[copper jay]

6

[night garnet]

you mean 4?

oh nvm

wrong sword

do you dump warp res?

[copper jay]

Yes

You use the special to keep a high peril

[night garnet]

.

perks and blessing? i know it's subjective, just looking for somewhere to start, never used it before

[prime elk]

8

[prime elk]

Perks are cara and unyielding

Blessings are basic anything besides blazing spirit and warp slice (?)

[night garnet]

what's the argument for cara over flak?

[north tartan]

More damage to crushers and dreg ragers right?

[prime elk]

You'll kill mostflak stuff in one hit anyways

[night garnet]

icic

[prime elk]

So might as well focus perks on taking down the big boys

[night garnet]

that's what i figured, ty

[upbeat kestrel]

Scab ragers get flak modifiers on everuthing but torso

Dregs ragers are maniac

[north tartan]

Oh, right

[night garnet]

i really need to learn armor stats

[north tartan]

Hit the psykhanium

[night garnet]

i have, but the individual body part armors aren't listed to my knowledge

[prime elk]

It's fairly self explanatory after you shoot each guy a few times

[night garnet]

oh tru

[patent mango]

news might be today som1 saw strawhat posted smth but its hidden lmao

[weary crane]

So for skullcrusher, do you just have to hit them twice to give them 80% debuff?

And on monstrosities, when does this trigger? I assume book and shout, what about scab captain shield breaking?

[young cliff]

If I understand it correctly, Skullcrusher is applies from first hit, but the extra damage applies when the enemy is staggered only

[weary crane]

So it applies from first hit regardless of if your weapon staggers?

[buoyant maple]

as long as it applies any stagger

but the action has to be done by melee weapon

[weary crane]

So if a dh is being pushed by book, and i hit it with dclaw, does it do anything?

[buoyant maple]

TLDR hit things twice and everybody gets +80% dmg when that thing is successfully staggered

[buoyant maple]

should

but then again skullcrusher for DC sword is kind of

[weary crane]

Well it's for the 40% debuff

[buoyant maple]

it's not high enough stagger to make use of it most of the time

[jovial juniper]

Impact dclaw

[buoyant maple]

u'd be better off with like, crusher

[mental rock]

Oh no another SC dclaw user

[buoyant maple]

unless ur plan is skullcrusher on psyker

which is really not worth it

[night garnet]

would you guys recommend cara over flak with dueling sword?

[weary crane]

I'm using it with psyker for literally just defence against monstrosities

[buoyant maple]

oh then it's just not worth it period

[plucky flax]

Sure.

[marble crater]

Cara and Maniac, my beloved

[night garnet]

how do you guys feel about perilous combustion if it's the only soulblaze talent you're taking

i see it recommened, but is it really worth alone?

[upper sun]

its perfectly fine on its own

[night garnet]

.

[upper sun]

kill 3 elites and the last is free

[night garnet]

oh that's a good way of thinking about it

[prime elk]

Expect 4-7 percent damage from SB

It's ok

[weary crane]

Well no, no other blessing apart from shred does anything

[wispy bay]

The higher the difficulty, the better it gets.

[buoyant maple]

I meant more as in
You’d just be better off with a dps melee

You’d need someone else to stagger boss (doesn’t last very long) while u go into melee with boss and then someone else can take major advantage of the debuff u apply

[wispy bay]

This was meant to reply to the combustion.

[night garnet]

yeah that makes sense

[prime elk]

This is assuming AM and auric

Idk about havoc

[night garnet]

i'm on havoc 31, it seems useful

[marble crater]

Perilous Combustion is nice to have

[night garnet]

i've just been taking it if i have a spare point

[prime elk]

Yeah that's what it's good for, if you have a spare point

I usually end up preferring to take a 15 toughness node though

[marble crater]

Stinky toughness

[patent mango]

LOLL

open the launcher

it was today lmao

[plucky flax]

Update in my darktide? Must be fake news.

[blissful solar]

pog

[buoyant maple]

Psykhanium update?

[marble crater]

Or new map

[summer prairie]

sounds like the stuff I saw strings about

[patent mango]

map in psykhanium!!! 🔥

explore sefonis mind

[buoyant maple]

New psykhanium map

[clear heath]

what

[blissful solar]

astral projecting map

[patent mango]

lmao

[marble crater]

Looks like I don't have to block clad

[clear heath]

unfortunate

[jovial juniper]

[patent mango]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/nightmares-visions-update

[marble crater]

It really sounds like a psyker exclusive update though

[patent mango]

its 404 for now

[summer prairie]

it's Mortils Trials in Psykhanium or something like that

[marble crater]

Why bait me

[patent mango]

its temporarily bait

its just the launcher link

[marble crater]

Temporarily blocked

[patent mango]

temporarily nooooooo

[plucky flax]

But when new class tho

[patent mango]

march 25

[buoyant maple]

Darktide 4

In 2054

[plucky flax]

New psyker class confirmed.

[buoyant maple]

New astropath branch for psyker

[patent mango]

new psyker is a normal psyker that explodes summoning a daemon and is gone forever

man we killed too many heretics next update we gonna play in psykhanium so they dont go extinct

[dull scroll]

image if they add summoning to this game

[summer prairie]

If it's Mortis trials, it's some kind of horde mode where you seemingly play specific builds

[jovial juniper]

New gun class branch for Zealot

[patent mango]

simulation type game mode with random perks and maps

[summer prairie]

"Unlock all crew Memory Echoes" so probably the visions/nightmares

[clear heath]

i bet they'll nerf ogryn

for no particular reason

[patent mango]

ogryn will have visions and start using warp

[plucky flax]

Grey ogryn leggo

Alpha + level psyker big guy.

Fart and destroy the planet.

[patent mango]

@upper sun

news real

[marble crater]

Would be funny honestly, that's reason enough

[upper sun]

real

🚬

never doubt my visions

[marble crater]

the update is called visions too

[jovial juniper]

What about your nightmares

[upper sun]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/nightmares-visions-update

strawhat is litearlly editing it

someone found the url but its still private

[summer prairie]

"found"

[upper sun]

doubt those very much 😅

[upbeat kestrel]

it launches you there when you click learn more

[upper sun]

someone was stalking her on the forum

last post
last actual post on the feed

[patent mango]

the community is ravenous

[upper sun]

4 hours ago

ok jokes aside

i should use my mana for lotto tickets instead of darktide updates

[jovial juniper]

FS on their next game being community proof in all ways

[summer prairie]

"New game activity - Mortis Trials: mash through waves of enemies in visions induced by the ship’s Psyker" yep

[upper sun]

ships psyker

[patent mango]

where is ths

launcher too?

[upper sun]

navigators confirmed

[autumn smelt]

Where are you finding this

[summer prairie]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/nightmares-visions-update

[upper sun]

I CALLED IT

[autumn smelt]

Localization?

[patent mango]

thats 404

oh

[summer prairie]

refresh

[autumn smelt]

Oh the source of the page

[patent mango]

oh its not 404 anymore

[summer prairie]

no

[patent mango]

LOL

[upper sun]

OGRYN NERFS CONFIRMED LETS GOOO

[patent mango]

LETS GOOOOOOO

OGRYN NERFS

[night garnet]

.

buff ogryn

[patent mango]

this dev blog announces yet another dev blog

[marble crater]

Is this chaos wastes?

I never played Vermintide

[patent mango]

sounds like it

[summer prairie]

I don't think it will be chaos wastes

[patent mango]

fr?

it does sound a little odd with waves of enemies

could just be survival

[marble crater]

Halo firefight

[summer prairie]

there were various titles for it that were initially called horde_win

[night garnet]

i hope it's not just survival

[upper sun]

never played halo whats firefight

[summer prairie]

e.g. "Win Horde with an elementalist build"

[patent mango]

you know firefighters

[marble crater]

Surviving wave after wave of harder enemies

While upgrading your weapons and getting power weapons

[patent mango]

thank god with this new mortis trials i can get off havoc

[buoyant maple]

Ok so new update has

Mortis Trials (new game mode)
New event (Mortis Trials)
Havoc refresh
Ogryn talent rework
Ogryn weapon buffs
Additional balance changes

[crude cape]

Mortis Trials sounds dope

[patent mango]

vet players starving after this one

[buoyant maple]

No, seems like an arena style mode?

[crude cape]

we needed an endless wave mode kind of thing

[buoyant maple]

Power axe will save us

At least this means I won’t need to overhaul my guide following this

[patent mango]

lol

[summer prairie]

harder havoc sounds good at least

[patent mango]

i just hope its not abysmal

[jovial juniper]

CW you started with basically nothing
Then went on playing through the mission collecting coins and buying upgrades

Mortis Trial will just give you everything from the start it seems

Hope we have some movement speed thing going for maximum zooming

[plucky flax]

More likely they'd nerf havoc.

[wispy bay]

I don't enjoy VT2 much, mostly because I want more guns and ranged attack.

[summer prairie]

it literally says it's harder

also Cole says it's harder

[patent mango]

could this be something in bg or nawww

[upper sun]

no poweraxe?

[buoyant maple]

No new weapons in this update

[wispy bay]

Nerf orgryn again?

[upper sun]

power axe is fake..........

[buoyant maple]

So the new weapons are prob June / September

[hearty wolf]

New game activity - Mortis Trials: mash through waves of enemies in visions induced by the ship’s Psyker. Each time you venture into the Sefoni’s visions, you will be able to build new and exciting playstyles by selecting between abilities and buffs for the duration of the trial. By overcoming the Mortis Trials, players will unlock secret information on some characters present on the Mourningstar.

o

I might come back

this sound good

[upper sun]

#🐦tweets-sermons message

time to start practing purge again...

[marble crater]

Level 1 is a poxwalker wave

[crude cape]

Cole is a tester right? Is he saying the rebalancing of havoc will make it much harder?

[summer prairie]

I don't know what they did besides adding 4 new mutators but yes

[patent mango]

crushers will have guns

[loud girder]

he basically said its much much harder now and completion rates will plummet

[tired estuary]

Bulwarks will do shield h1 now

[jovial juniper]

Full carapace Reapers

Let's goooooo

[patent mango]

how the frick is it 37 pages

[marble crater]

What is 37 pages

Ah, nevermind

[patent mango]

collect my pages

[analog agate]

So horde mode and harder havocs. Well, I hope they make then harder in a different way that just making them tankier and shooters stronger

[upbeat kestrel]

big letters

[marble crater]

37 pages... How many talent nodes does ogryn have?

[patent mango]

lmao

[west smelt]

37 pages damn

[patent mango]

6

[marble crater]

Sounds like a rework of the entire tree

[loud girder]

where is everyone pulling the 37 number from fellas

[analog agate]

Clerks

37 dicks in a row

[marble crater]

The announcement, at the end

[vernal frost]

they gonna swap ogryn and psyker trees around

[loud girder]

i should watch the vid silly me

[upbeat kestrel]

from fatshark forums

[lethal plover]

ayo new update

[upbeat kestrel]

no new update in 20 days

[jovial juniper]

Slendershark

[analog agate]

Not a fan of horde modes. Sad say for me

[patent mango]

im happy as long as i can stab people

[eager token]

h40 changes

3 bosses at once

[upper sun]

i need a streamer to read the 37 pages for me

[jovial juniper]

Don't worry 37 pages are not out yet

Or are they?

[analog agate]

Next 1-2 days

[upper sun]

soon tm

[mental grail]

obese fish is going to give me a meltagun one of these days

the omnissiah wills it

[wispy bay]

Give psyker a wave attack like Kamehameha.

[weary crane]

Just got here

Have they nerfed ogryn yet?

[analog agate]

Ogryn can’t even move anymore

His mobility is 0. We have to push him

[marble crater]

Maybe later this week, there is a 37 page dev blog coming

[upper sun]

""I’ll say now it is not Chaos Wastes! Though that blurb might feel that way. Please wait for the dev blog before forming any decisions. 🤲 Excited to share more with y’all!

p.s. If I am slow replying right this moment it’s because I am making some dinner and I timed this poorly hahah""

😭 we got strawhat working 24/7

[marble crater]

We don't deserve her

[stark crown]

COD Zombies in Darktide 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[weary crane]

Tbh i dont think the ogryn talent tree is the problem, apart from the fact it has barely any toughness giving talents (and the ones it does have require melee combat)

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/stuck-in-time-virus-boy-got-that-virus-that-boy-got-that-virus-stuck-stuck-gif-27603933

[weary crane]

One thing that makes sense it to give them huge ammo reserves

Or make trappers/mutants unable to take them

[marble crater]

Watch ogryn become the most fun to play class after the update

[upper sun]

hopium ^

personally im hoping for OGRYN NERFS

[weary crane]

Nerf rumbler

[jovial juniper]

It's bugged of sorts

Don't worry about it

[weary crane]

I have a build that revolves around it

[weary crane]

In theory it should be amazing but the rumbler does so little dmg

[fiery stratus]

Rumbler was better before the skilltree changes

[weary crane]

The skill tree actually helped my build lol

Gave me 1 extra point

[patent mango]

ogryn getting across the board nerfs

[upper sun]

HELL YEAH

ogryn will need a wheelchair to move around

[marble crater]

Vet and Zealot should be the ones to push the wheelchair (one on each side) while psyker gets buffed to make up for the loss in DPS

[dense bluff]

Is that the average psycher?

[marble crater]

No, he is a pro

[blissful solar]

did he join late? dang...

[dense bluff]

no from the start I tried to kick him

[summer prairie]

rude

[blissful solar]

maybe he felt bullied and so fought back by being incompetent

[summer prairie]

why does everyone have enemies staggered 0

[dense bluff]

I tried to kick him when he went afk next to medstation while we were doing objective

Can't stagger them if there dead?

[upper sun]

kino

[weary crane]

Ugh why is everyone so trash

[upper sun]

now this is gameplay

[patent mango]

ogryn new tree vs old

lmao

[weary crane]

I saw one dude use up a med stim, and grab another, when there was a full medicare right next to him

[upper sun]

what

where did you get this

[patent mango]

a tester posted a 15x28 tree

[upper sun]

LMAO

[patent mango]

in ogryn chat

lmao

[upper sun]

its the same one

[dense bluff]

This is the true Ogryn skill tree look like a brick

[upper sun]

he posted the same one twice

hes lying

[patent mango]

i mean the pixels look a bit different

so i think its a good rework

[upper sun]

different screenshots

[patent mango]

yea

the one on right is current

[upper sun]

one is parts

i think different resolutions or different monitors but my intuision tells me its both the old tree

[marble crater]

All I see is 5 pixels

[patent mango]

is that good or bad

[patent mango]

i genuinely cant tell

[upper sun]

i cant either but THE VOICES TELL ME he poster is lying

[patent mango]

i mean

it looks different

[upper sun]

THE VOICES

[patent mango]

those 3 pixels

[dense bluff]

It is the true mind of a Ogryn kinda the same colors and super pixelized

[upper sun]

it is a lie and they are both the same old tree

[patent mango]

both are the new tree

[marble crater]

Surely you are just messing with people right and these are not pixel versions of the talent tree

[patent mango]

they

the left is pixel version of the new tree

[dusky crag]

We're seeing the height of Ogryn player analysis here okay

[patent mango]

if ur wondering where source is

this is it

thats teh entire ogryn tree apparently

[marble crater]

Nah, I will not participate in this trolling

[patent mango]

lmao

[upper sun]

i straight up dont believe it

the play testers are too loyal to do jack

[patent mango]

another one already told us we'll have 20 new talents

[upper sun]

dont believe a word

[patent mango]

ogryn will have 0 talents

[marble crater]

Now that sounds legit

[plucky flax]

Maybe ogryn will soon attain 70% power of zealot.

[loud girder]

kid named pickaxe ogryn:

[patent mango]

ogryn will have more builds than zealot

[loud girder]

zealot has 3 builds and 2 of them use the same pathing

u could realistically make more but you'll go off meta and get shat on

also you'll gimp yourself

[plucky flax]

Dw I use stealth loner martyrdom zealot.

Super low key off meta pick

[loud girder]

next thing you're gonna tell me you use it with a knife

teach me your ways pilgrim

[sturdy reef]

martyrdom is more fun imo

than any zealot capstone

[plucky flax]

Rashad

[loud girder]

i play piety cause im a basic bitch

[plucky flax]

Typical stealth zealot use knife with momentum/piety for cdr refresh.

[loud girder]

funny number go up

brain happy

[upper sun]

the new ogryn melee meta build leaked...

[plucky flax]

Or maybe rare stealth hammer.

[fiery stratus]

I just use whatever build is best based on the melee

[loud girder]

chad relic blade works with all 3 keystones

[plucky flax]

Stealth loner matyrdom relic sword.

[sturdy reef]

fotf martyrdom relic blade

fav build for me on zealot

[plucky flax]

@buoyant maple what's a decent skill tree for grenades spam meme for havoc?

[buoyant maple]

Do u need survivalist

[plucky flax]

I am using this

Yeah without survivalist it's rough mane

Especially when all the guys eat all the ammo and I take the least as vet

[stark crown]

Make sure you’re running Lethal Prox on Bistol if you’re absolutely banking on nade spam

[plucky flax]

I dunno if the ovenproof scoreboard count grenade damage as 'ranged' damage or not. Probably does.

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah of course.

[deft stump]

Darktide survivors?

[stark crown]

Pretty sure it’s a mix of bleed and ranged

[deft stump]

I can't help you, my build literally has no breakpoints and gave Path cancer.

[plucky flax]

No bleed is counted separately.

[stark crown]

If it gave him cancer it probably would give me cancer also

[autumn lark]

show the monstrosity

[deft stump]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e21fbd7-c703-4fcf-845c-26b1540095b9/boomies-shredder-frags-edition

[plucky flax]

But I think grenade explosive damage might be counted into the ranged damage category.

[stark crown]

The initial detonation is what I’m referring too

[deft stump]

No breakpoints.

[stark crown]

Less the bleed

[stark crown]

Build made in a rundown methlab holy

[deft stump]

BOOM? BOOM!

[plucky flax]

The other vet took a lot of ammo but his ranged damage is barely more than me using plasma. So I think grenades factor into the 'ranged' damge otherwise... I dunno it's impossible for plasma to be that inefficient.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1345995210391420970/image.png?ex=67c9def9&is=67c88d79&hm=5968db1aebf03b49e05ef4060a5c6b35355e13472a04726380deaf7ebff4be8b&

[deft stump]

Cancer?

[plucky flax]

I spammed a lot more nades so my bleed is 400k vs 180k Xd

[stark crown]

Yeah you have quite of bit of points you can shift elsewhere

To make more effective

[deft stump]

Nu. Field Improv my beloved.

[stark crown]

It’s not needed unless the zealot actively refuses to run Purity

Which you know damn well they won’t run it

[deft stump]

Ehm.

[plucky flax]

No elite damage and ogryn damage

[stark crown]

Selfish KARKERS

[plucky flax]

I dunno I can't play without those 2 nodes.

[stark crown]

BiD is one of those

Build dependent nodes

[deft stump]

I will run it though. Then again...

[stark crown]

Same with superiority actually

But I run Rending Strikes and Superiority seeing the Vigilant Autos love them

[deft stump]

I'm pretty sure what you want me to do is shift Field Improv and twinned to Precision strikes.

[stark crown]

Just move field to precision

Juices your knife up even more

[buoyant maple]

what melee are u using

[deft stump]

You need 2 points for that.

[plucky flax]

DS4 what else I am veri noob

[stark crown]

Toss the extra nade then

[plucky flax]

Taking the easy way out in havoc Xd

[buoyant maple]

best melee for grenade build is shovel

uncanny + AoN

[stark crown]

That’s two points back immediately actually

That and demo team with stockpile

[plucky flax]

Okay I am not pro enough to play shovel in havoc.

[deft stump]

I like the 5% extra crits though.

[stark crown]

You’re guaranteed a frag

Desperado and let’s see

[buoyant maple]

u can also drop the stamina regen delay node tbh u only need it for knife

[stark crown]

Recip and Desperado make up for FT procs massively

[plucky flax]

Ye maybe I drop that for 10% extra melee damage.

[buoyant maple]

for knife? yea

field improv not worth

[stark crown]

See I’m a gambler and don’t take the extra nade

All in on twinned 🚬

[plucky flax]

Vet tree needs to be trimmed down a bit.

[stark crown]

Ehh…

I’m coping with it

I’m fine with Ogryn and Zealot getting their shit first

Our tree is fine for now

But it could use small mock ups

Marksman Focus though does DESPERATELY need a rework

[deft stump]

I lose so hard... 50+ 'nades tossed, no twinned.

[stark crown]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-hikari-gif-1408129775731152385

Path watching me Proc it 4 times in a row

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hakari-kinji-hakari-kingji-goatkari-gambling-jackpot-gif-5065864224805726506

[stark crown]

ALWAYS BET ON HAKARI

(Twinned Blast)

[autumn lark]

when twinned blast actualy works

[plucky flax]

I'll try this for more melee damage trading for less ammo.

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-5852846

[deft stump]

To be fair, I already knew how unlucky I am.

[buoyant maple]

I think O4B is better than CK in havoc

[deft stump]

Did play PA and 60+ mins game, 0 crits.

[plucky flax]

Aye I think so too actually.

[stark crown]

You get more value with O4B tbh cause I mean you need to be killing shooters

Or else you’re being turned into Swiss cheese

[deft stump]

Also, things randomly dying to bleed restoring toughness.

[stark crown]

Toughness going from 1% to max instantly

[west pebble]

I have probably a terrible Psyker build but it doesn’t matter because assail and a bolt pistol pretty much deals with most my problems

[prisma igloo]

I do aswell only because the only one not "casting" is using the warp and buffing dmg resulting in me using a ton of guns

But uh otherwise yeah no I'm a terrible psyker. Id trust me on a vet or zealot but not psyker.

[vernal temple]

it's been probably over 1000 hours of gametime since I've last used assail

can't write assail without ass

[prisma igloo]

I just enjoy killing the enemy via melee resulting in me using the channel or whatever. Only time I use staffs is when I gotta same with the blitz's.

[icy flower]

I never used assail after finishing all penances related to it. Couldn't be happier to ditch it.

[west pebble]

I use assail to carve up unarmored hoards and bolt pistol the heavy armored guys, does just fine so far.

[prisma igloo]

Thats why I can't play psyker. I just can't play ranged because I don't enjoy it as much often has me enjoying vermintide more than Darktide due to focusing ranged more on Darktide. But I still enjoy Darktide due to yk abilities to deal with it.

[radiant frigate]

woe, melee psyker be upon ye

[marble crater]

Voidblast is a melee staff

[west pebble]

Force sword is my current favorite but dueling swords are also fun

[prisma igloo]

Oh yeah I forgot about that

There's like a select few staffs you can still use. Forgot

[west pebble]

Don’t get me wrong, Vet is probably my best guy but watching a hoard of Mobians get held at bay by assail is a delight

[prisma igloo]

Hmm think I have a few ideas for multiple melee builds actually

I rarely use assail even when equiped because it feels .. too good. Great for dealing with those pesky shooters at every corner tho.

[west pebble]

My build, focuses on making it almost impossible to 100% my peril, even if it gets close to I just pop one button and everyone catches on fire

[prisma igloo]

Yeah which actually goes well with melee

I use it with a quick building peril way and boom fire well soul fire but still fire.

[west pebble]

Yea! It’s really fun! I still haven’t mastered a lot of the combat but it definitely feels fun to play sword wizard

[copper jay]

These helmets description are "voice modifier" but I dont hear anything different when I put them ?

[zenith sentinel]

whats the best weapon to help complete perlious focus?

[still valve]

force greatsword 🗿

[bright zephyr]

I had the weirdest bug happen to me as a psyker during a game:

I went down during a match but immediately after I had been helped back up, I went straight into overload peril animation and died. Has anyone else encountered this bug?

[prisma igloo]

Is alright at best, I have other preferences but I do use it with a build or two.

[marble crater]

Can't say that I have had that

[marble crater]

It's slightly muffled

This guy expects actual different voices from free cosmetics

[upper sun]

check settings maybe you have it disabled

[prisma igloo]

The bought ones do have a drastic difference.

[marble crater]

Yeah those do

[buoyant maple]

very mild muffling

[prisma igloo]

I actually like the voice box although terrifying to see

[copper jay]

😭

[stark crown]

Literally just gas mask filter

[buoyant maple]

want cool voice changer, better pay up

[copper jay]

But they are terrible

[buoyant maple]

the snowhound helmet for psyker is pretty peak

scion helmet for veteran is also peak

[strong gulch]

Moth head helmet.

IDK what it's called

[stark crown]

Snowhound helmet is arguably the best cosmetic Psykers gotten in a very very long time

[strong gulch]

yellow eyes

[stark crown]

An actual fucking helmet

[buoyant maple]

it's just nice

[copper jay]

This one ?

[stark crown]

Yes

[buoyant maple]

yea

[prisma igloo]

Looks cool af

[stark crown]

Reminder the Scion armor is still in the files

Just not out yet

[buoyant maple]

no glove no buy

I have this for psyker atm

[stark crown]

You stole

[prisma igloo]

Looks cool very.. halghasty

[stark crown]

My drip…

[buoyant maple]

I did it first

then I saw u had it too

I never commented

[stark crown]

I literally threw it together

Without thinking and went

Holy shit this goes hard

[prisma igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/killzone-helghast-gif-11645523914663673667

[stark crown]

Except mine has white pants

Lmao

[prisma igloo]

For those that dunno

[strong gulch]

all I read is "I literally threw"

[buoyant maple]

I don't have white pants for psyker

but I do use it for zealot

[analog agate]

Best helmets: Trader’s Hat, Snowhound Helmet, Golden Bifocals. Scion helmet is awesome on vet

[prisma igloo]

All im saying is. Where's more zealot rags? Like basically trashy clothes. I wanna be the hobo zealot

[stark crown]

Literally anything steel legion 🚬

[prisma igloo]

Understandable

[buoyant maple]

steel legion zealot unironically has better drip than steel legion veteran

[strong gulch]

I use trader's hat a lot.

[north tartan]

Coming from the number one steel legion fan

[marble crater]

Darktide moment

[fiery stratus]

Drippy?

[strong gulch]

Not always tho

[stark crown]

It makes me so fucking upset

[north tartan]

Speaking of which, I’m gonna get my own steel legion helmet, there’s one in the store for 1400

[stark crown]

We didn’t get the Grenadier mask

You don’t understand

[buoyant maple]

u will buy the krieg grenadier mask on veteran and be happy

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cola-cat-cola-explosion-luma-ai-gif-12441479630905084027

[fiery stratus]

My trauma outfit

[north tartan]

That’s pretty drippy

[stark crown]

I will not

I will not

That helmet will drive me fucking insane

[strong gulch]

lol

[north tartan]

I assume the grenadier helmet is the one on your banner

[buoyant maple]

zealot has 2 btw

krieg version (from the Vraks rotation)

and steel legion version

[stark crown]

Grenadiers

Average Steel Legion etc

[north tartan]

Ah

[marble crater]

And if you are wondering how it happened

[stark crown]

Basically the Grenadiers are like the Cadians Kasrkin

[north tartan]

I can see the appeal but personally not a fan

[stark crown]

The elite Shocktroopers

[north tartan]

I do like the steel legion normal helmets

[strong gulch]

It's always a mutie

burster clutch into the backrooms

[buoyant maple]

kasrkin is classified as grenadier-adjacent

[north tartan]

I’m gonna score the one in the store rn, I got an idea for some drip

[stark crown]

They have to edit the mask to have a skull pattern and change the helmet completely to cover the head nearly entirely

That skull pattern is there deliberately to scare Orks btw cause that’s one of their expertises

Killing orks

[buoyant maple]

grenadier is basically "regimental flavour of scion but actually not scion"

[stark crown]

Basically

DKOK also have Grenadiers

[buoyant maple]

the only grenadier that's "different" from the rest is DKOK

[north tartan]

I really should look through the minis

[buoyant maple]

where u auto promote into a grenadier by being too good at staying alive

[stark crown]

They need to revamp Steel Legion with minis

They haven’t been touched since early 2000’s

[buoyant maple]

DKOK kitbash, take it or leave it

[stark crown]

Literally

[north tartan]

I’d have so many minis if they weren’t so damn pricey

[stark crown]

About to say that

[buoyant maple]

you're krieg adjacent now

it's ur fate

[stark crown]

If you want a modern Steel Legion

[buoyant maple]

[stark crown]

You have to kitbash DKOK

That and dump unhealthy amounts into Chimeras

Leman Russ’

Baneblades if you’re feeling silly

Seeing they’re a mechanized infantry regiment

[jovial juniper]

The blonion

[feral carbon]

can anyone recommend some fun psyker builds? having trouble really getting into the class, and haven't really tried any of the staffs other then purge

[patent mango]

scriers gaze disrupt destiny greatsword gl

[strong gulch]

Try a bunch of weapons out to see if any seems interesting. Tell what weapon you want to try; then we can either toss meta builds at you or collectively craft something.

[marble crater]

EK staff

[strong gulch]

I like EK. It's my fav.

[feral carbon]

i just want to know some builds that dont use purge staff, since its all iv used with psyker so far other then a greatsword revolver scriers destiny build, but that one doesn't really end up to well when i get anihilated by 1 reaper

[marble crater]

This with EK staff and either Illisi or Greatsword

[strong gulch]

Cliffhanger tips #psyker-class message

Dump Stats #psyker-class message

Smite "bad"? #psyker-class message

Using Smite as a primer from @thorn cedar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1xC1bzDJs

updated Oct 2025
Build Guide
This build guide is up to date for the Bound by Duty patch. It has been generously provided by @ripe obsidian. Please note that it will be updated as time allows. This lets info be shareable more quickly. https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Av6T7DJRkm78M3csiZec6p7-cHXOWiKyjpOJ-FWV3g/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.b9htpefcz1vj
This is replacing my simplified build guides. So if you see this pin recommended for builds and are looking for an update, go to Six's build guide. There are more nuanced decisions to be made, and the previous pins were already at their character limits. Having the build guide outside of discord means more information can be gathered, and it can be better organized.

Here's staff options.

[feral carbon]

[strong gulch]

Here is standard gunker build that may need some tweaking depending on what you take.

If you have issues with reapers, I recommend recon lasgun, Vraks 5, or laspistol and have EE.

[feral carbon]

and what is EE?

[buoyant maple]

empathic evasion (talent)

[strong gulch]

Empathic Evasion talent.

Crits count as dodging ranged.

You can also slide up to them and stagger em for melee.

[feral carbon]

oh yeah, that one

i imagine that would go crazy with recon

[strong gulch]

Oh right. All of the staves can supress the feck out of reapers and other shooters.

[marble crater]

If you remember that you have primary fire

[strong gulch]

I yell "lightening bolt" or "pew pew" when I primary fire at em. Makes be giggle and remember.

https://youtu.be/j_ekugPKqFw?si=sTeUxnPvwBq1qsIx

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Also them just cowering is funny.

"Nooooo. Stwaaaap it."

[marble crater]

Or this guy https://youtube.com/shorts/4FgmCTii214

[strong gulch]

NOO unavailable. Feck you reagion blocked.

Let us share.

Stop getting in the way of friendship.

[marble crater]

is it region blocked or just can't play embedded

[strong gulch]

Oh it loaded text now.

Yeah it's just blocked because of some content thing.

I'm watching on the tube. This is more the energy I have lmao

[marble crater]

Usually we are the ones suffering from region blocking

[strong gulch]

What's it's like not being "main character" country. 😭

[marble crater]

[potent echo]

Update

[long wharf]

update on the update

[young falcon]

Do the other IAGs get used other than Vraks?

[analog agate]

Had a pub where someone was using the n word. Long time since I ran into a racist

[patent mango]

vote kick or barrel them into a pit

[stark crown]

Had 2 of them in my server and I actively avoided reviving them LMAO

they got very upset and said some very interesting things to put it lightly

[prime elk]

agri sometimes, but otherwise not really

[young falcon]

Might try it. Getting bored of recon

[prime elk]

agri's not bad

just beware the hefty recoil, and lower dps than vraks

[young falcon]

It's meant to be burst fired right?

[prime elk]

if you can deal with the visual reocil, full auto's no problem

[stark crown]

Graia is fun if you want like something between Vraks and Agri

Agri I encourage burst firing with and running Salvo on with Dum Dum

[young falcon]

Why not both of the salvo perks? Although dum dum prob helps when going full auto on bosses

[stark crown]

DumDum is constantly up and its value is fucking huge

Salvo so you can take pot (burst) shots at ranged enemies at a distance

[upper galleon]

salvo's reset time and 0 benefit if you are firing too quickly kills it for me

i'd rather just pick always active buffs

[young falcon]

Luckily it's slower than vraks so bursting shouldn't be too hard.

[stark crown]

Oh its incredibly easy to burst with Agri

[brazen rampart]

Lucky, I run into one at least every 3 days.

Always some bottom of the scoreboard, playing like shit with a jank build, complaining about people doing well person.

Never specific to any one class but lately it's been vet players, though I did get called the f slur like 2 weeks ago by a psyker for using a ds4 in a civi.

[raven mountain]

Man, where the fuck are you finding these people? 95% of the time, people just don't talk in my games at all. And usually, when they do, it's light bitching about fatshark servers or buggy bs in game.

[brazen rampart]

Queue enough auric damnation in hishock (because these players don't play shit conditions like pox gas or vent purge) and you will find them.

Or civi.

LOTS of folks like that queue for civi, at least in my region.

[raven mountain]

I've been roster progging havocs because they feel better to play.

Once you actually get to play that is.

[brazen rampart]

I, frankly, find it hilarious.

They get to watch me clutch and they get to sit on the floor while I res the teammates that don't shit talk me.

[restive slate]

I only ever "Cheaper Town Hall" when randos speak

[brazen rampart]

Oh, and for the record, most of these creatures are ps5 players in voice chat.

Like I didn't used to see this many people like this before U&L.

[drowsy chasm]

Where is the best place to do the cliffhanger penance? I can never get it done

[vapid dirge]

the small bridge at the beginning of Chasm Logistratum

[brazen rampart]

Vigil station oblivium at end event where you've got the extended bridges on the single cogitator, otherwise the end of the bridge on chasm station is a good spot.

Run smite, rmb, release to throw enemies off the ledge.

(enemies stunned by smite will be thrown towards your cursor when you let them go)

[drowsy chasm]

I’ll have to try those. I can never get that one done. I also never thought to use smite for it

[feral carbon]

is fire trauma the one where you use the primary attack instead of the secondary?

is there a build for the secondary? i enjoy the satisfying goop explosions from pulping a horde

knocking over crushers is fun to

[strong gulch]

Note that Cliffhanger is harder to do on lower difficulties due to lower density. If you can't access harder difficulties, then wait until your level is higher or as someone if they can help in a private game.

How to control the push of smite and throw them in the direction that you want. TLDW look in the direction you want to toss enemies a little before or as you let go of smite. #psyker-class message

The beginning of Mercantile Habzone HL-70-04 "The Carnival" is a good place to farm for cliffhanger. Smite in a live game. ⁠#psyker-class message

This is also an option. The map in the video is chasm station. Don't have to fight for the horde on this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiZp4X8YQww

or
https://youtu.be/U1ecemABEzI?si=NEM-YHVavrRB868N

End of hab dreyko (3 bridges at end but 2 explode) might also be and area worth trying. That's also a place to farm the kill 40 during SG (scrier's gaze) penance. Team is running away from the horde.

Dark Communion option #psyker-class message

[strong gulch]

Fire trauma is all about the secondary.

Rending shockwave + flurry also is about the charged danger circle.

[analog agate]

Same for me. But when they do talk, it is either a “lol” from something random that happened. Or a slur

[wispy bay]

I take out my strike staff again and still find it fun even if it is technically weaker than others.

[broken carbon]

thats electrostaff with surge

surge nexus electrostaff

[strong gulch]

2 charge FGS special canceled by some booger

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1347048576747835442/FGS_fun_canceled.gif

[analog agate]

Psyker definitely benefits the most from using quick swap mechanics

[raven mountain]

Yeah, that's exactly why most of the time, I push before activating it.

[strong gulch]

One mysteriously appeared 😭

[feral carbon]

is the lmb or rmb EK?

[strong gulch]

RMB

[feral carbon]

got it, thanks

gonna try it rq in some standard heresy/damnation

[strong gulch]

I ignore the LMB

[feral carbon]

honestly same, i think lmb builds or a bit boring because it ignroes the actual unique use of the staff

[strong gulch]

I used to play LMB before we had the talents for it and the crafting update because it was funny.

It got less funny fast.

[analog agate]

EK psyker is insane. I kill shit faster than a revolver vet/zealot

And I have infinite ammo

[wispy bay]

Revolver vet/zealot don't actually use revolver much at all.

[strong gulch]

and the yelling

[analog agate]

I was just saying I can kill specials before them is all

[strong gulch]

lots of fire yelling

[obtuse walrus]

Do people really think voidstrike is weak

Or just "weakest" of

[analog agate]

It is the weakest staff.

Not weak

[strong gulch]

Compared to other staves right now VS is weakest. Still strong.

[obtuse walrus]

Also these names annoy me, bowling bowl staff yeah?

Or is it the aoe blast one

I can never remember

[strong gulch]

VS / voidstrike is the ball one.

[wispy bay]

I did Strike staff in H40 as 2nd psyker, it works well.

[analog agate]

I hope they don’t nerf psyker if they are buffing havocs

[feral carbon]

worst day of my life

crying and throwing up rn

crashed right after i insta-died to a poxburster

also after i said lmao

[strong gulch]

Incredible timing.

[feral carbon]

so the universe manipulated me into looking like i rage quit
and i was having fun with the EK build

[strong gulch]

At least you had fun until the game said "NO"

[feral carbon]

ITS LETTING ME RECONNECT

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[buoyant maple]

Without substantial nerfs to non-cleave AoE tools (mainly psyker), density will continue to fail to engage players meaningfully

[analog agate]

I just don’t know how they would nerf infinite cleave mechanics without making them feel like shit. Even target caps would be annoying if they don’t implement it right

[obtuse walrus]

But yeah I do the funny greatsword voidstrike with bb and venting shriek

I love killing everything! I love critting and running faster, avoiding range fire and having near constant 200 toughness!!

[patent jacinth]

DoT resistance is what I'm thinking

[analog agate]

Like for trauma. I can see a target caps on dmg. But not stagger. Or something like that

[strong gulch]

#psyker-class message

[feral carbon]

the dreaded brown room

[honest viper]

Chat I need help for building my psyker

[wispy bay]

Sent to the immaterium

[strong gulch]

imperibackrooms

[strong gulch]

We can help

[honest viper]

Thank you

[buoyant maple]

Target cap could be a very generous number like 10-12

[wispy bay]

If wild fire by pass that, as it is a different "source", it might be a worthy pick.

[upper galleon]

Less stacks applied as it cleaves through more mobs? Idk throwing idea into hat

[honest viper]

I wanna give male seer pysker a hug

[buoyant maple]

Wildfire cannot spread stacks to enemies that have 4 or more stacks

[buoyant maple]

Prob too computationally costly

[upper galleon]

Oh true

[buoyant maple]

If target cap for flame weapons is unrealistic to implement

I’d rather their attack rate be lowered

So they straight up would apply stacks slower

As for VB

[upper galleon]

Will it be target caps or cleave, cause then hitmass would be a factor, tho they dont have blessings for it

But hey could rework the other blessings to interact with cleave/target caps

[wispy bay]

It is a mean to bypass the limit of inferno if they put in a target cap.

[buoyant maple]

No what I’m saying is more like
If mass can’t be associated with them at all then just nerf their attack speed

[upper galleon]

I know

Im talking to myself

[buoyant maple]

It’s alright

It’s not enough stacks to really stand on its own

It’s pure propagation, you still need a strong stacking method to make the most out of it

[analog agate]

I personally don’t think VB will ever be nerfed unless it is a byproduct of some other altering of mechanics. It just isn’t used as much. It is still the least popular staff I have seen in regular gameplay. And it is so uncommonly used by psykers in havoc in favor of inferno

[buoyant maple]

Main offender is inferno yea

I think veteran’s shredder is really easy to fix in comparison to flame weapons

Shredder u can just nerf stack per frag from 6 to 5

And it’s basically done

[analog agate]

Inferno is tied to soulblaze. Which is related to so many psyker mechanics

[buoyant maple]

Can also buff twinned blast to 30% to encourage more value out of grenades just at lower consistency

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-i-just-read-reading-samuel-johnson-joshua-reynolds-reaction-gif-14997728

[analog agate]

Would be hard unless they can specifically target cap inferno

[buoyant maple]

What

[buoyant maple]

I think the easiest for them is probably reducing attack rate for flame weapons

[deft stump]

Twinned smoke is memes.

[buoyant maple]

Make them flat out apply stacks slower

I don’t think they should even be heavy DOT weapons tbh

[wispy bay]

People want the flamer though.

[buoyant maple]

Soulblaze itself can already use a nerf

[prime elk]

nothing to fix. shredders are fine as is

[wispy bay]

It is a signature weapon of 40k.

[buoyant maple]

Nah, they can use a small nerf

[prime elk]

especially when vet is about to get power creeped to shit when ogryn rework comes out

no point nerfing

[wispy bay]

SB max stack is double that of burn is aways an odd design.

[buoyant maple]

If not shredder itself

Then the 2 grenade regen talents

Small nerfs

[prime elk]

only if psyker gets walloped first

[wispy bay]

Just fix lethal proximity, it would be a good enough nerf.

[buoyant maple]

Different aspects of changes can exist at the same time

[prime elk]

i just have no faith in fatshart to get anything right for class balance

so i want them to take things one step at a time

[buoyant maple]

I don’t think ogryn will be massively stronger than they’re rn, just more ways to be strong

[restive slate]

I remember seeing someone saying smoke nades should mark enemies like Ogryn Taunt but bluish

I feel like highlighting groups of enemies even after they leave the smoke radius for a brief period may make Smokes more desirable

[prime elk]

that'd be fine of course, hope you're right.

[restive slate]

Is it bad I wish that Ogryns can knock of Hounds or break out of Nets in exchange for corruption damage?

[buoyant maple]

I don’t think having an archetype that flat out bypasses a specific enemy subset is good design, period

[buoyant maple]

Hank already mentioned pickaxe getting heavy sweeping attack possibly nerfed

[restive slate]

It's just funny how the Big Boi is struggling with a doggy

[prime elk]

unfortunate... but makes sense, and hope ogryn's other shit gets appropriately buffed

[jovial juniper]

Literally Pained outburst with dogs

Do people not know about Pained Outburst

[prime elk]

tbf not exactly the best talent

and ogryn talent tree feels pretty choked on points

[clever blade]

Any recommendation for melee weapons that is not dueling sword or force swords?

[upbeat kestrel]

Devilc claw, heavy sword, combat axe

[wispy bay]

Knife

[north tartan]

Yeah Caxe

[raven mountain]

There's even like two Taxe players around here somewhere.

[strong gulch]

There's at least 5 or more Taxe users in here.

[plucky flax]

Not me

[verbal thistle]

me

😔

[strong gulch]

Adding you to the taxe list.

[verbal thistle]

🐟

[cosmic sigil]

Me

[strong gulch]

Ur already on the list. 🫡

[cosmic sigil]

🫡

i have not tried psyker chword, maybe there's something

[upbeat kestrel]

its good

but onw trick

[autumn smelt]

im not even a psyker main and im here too

[strong gulch]

Psyker taxe list so far:

@thorn cedar
@jovial juniper
@willow hazel
@cosmic sigil
@autumn smelt
@verbal thistle

Additions:
@upbeat kestrel
@patent jacinth
@drifting steeple
@steady torrent
@ 50RemAndCounting
@ Thunderous Pickaxe Enjoyer
@ FyreStone 2084719346
@ LiminalLizard
@ Galeophobia

*Note: @ mentions have been maxed.

[autumn smelt]

i do blame objekts for making my taxe addiction spread from just zealot to zealot and psyker

[strong gulch]

@ yourself to be added

[strong gulch]

I believe it.

[upbeat kestrel]

add me please. started using is again a lot.

[raven mountain]

Should be a role for that, lol

[fiery stratus]

Update said some balancing. Some. Inb4 duelling sword and taxes switch places

[autumn smelt]

youd be surprised honestly
i brought taxe zealot into h40 and left with 1.7m damage
which is the highest ive ever gotten in a game

[strong gulch]

It'd be funny if DS is nerfed but not meaningfully.

*DS special can no longer reach bulwark heads though shields.

[raven mountain]

That's around my highest, but it definitely wasn't on taxe

[mental rock]

I got 2m damage back when surge staff bug was still a thing with ep

[raven mountain]

My wish list is pretty simple. Nerf DS4's horde clear even further—and give bleed or fire to the autopistol on hit.

[plucky flax]

That's more about the team than about the weapon tbh. I can get 1.4 mil in 31 mins, or i can get 1.2 mil in 36 mins. Just team and condition (21st being damage inflator)

[autumn smelt]

ds4 doesnt need a horde clear nerf lmao
it needs everything else toned down

[potent echo]

Remove uncunny

[fiery stratus]

Even at knife level it would be more than good enough

[plucky flax]

Knife has better horde clear than ds4.

For me

[strong gulch]

Buff KF again. Let all DoTs have a chance to proc it.

[raven mountain]

Yeah, it's super strong. But I want the weapon to be basically useless into horde. Like if you run it, you are specifically saying that you will find some other way to deal with horde.

[mental rock]

I'd be fine with removing uncanny (I don't use it )

[plucky flax]

But I use knife with lacerate so horde clear is op.

[autumn smelt]

i learned yesterday that EP buffs KF
but doesnt consume a stack

[potent echo]

Pog

[strong gulch]

Ye

[fiery stratus]

Ds4 is slow to clear, but if you do a loop with lights/Push attack ect, you can pretty much stagger indefinitely and clear. Just takes some time.

[raven mountain]

Yep

Make it slower

and less safe

[autumn smelt]

they just need to make BB actually worth using beyond pathing and "fuck that specialst thats getting away" tbh

[raven mountain]

So it can absolutely murder some armor. But what are you going to do when there's more than a few enemies in front of you? Hope you brought another tool.

[plucky flax]

I wish ds4 has lacerate.

[autumn smelt]

i wish it was better than it is

[verbal thistle]

I combo it with trauma to 1 shot elites with EP

[autumn smelt]

i am quite fond of bb

[verbal thistle]

slam to gound and bb

[plucky flax]

Trauma bb top tier pregnant man build.

[autumn smelt]

and you use that to further spread pc
right?
right?

[verbal thistle]

says you

burga

[fiery stratus]

Brainburst needs some damage buff to some enemies. Needs faster charge, it needs to not drop the charge, and have it degrade over time if you're not charging.

[verbal thistle]

I dont use soulblaze

[plucky flax]

No I play blaze trauma as solo psyker too.

[autumn smelt]

right??

[strong gulch]

It'd be funny if DS got SB on hit talent before force sword does.

[verbal thistle]

left

[fiery stratus]

Surely soulblaze is getting nerfed at some point

surely

[mental rock]

BB should just outright kill whatever it hits as long as it's not a boss. Maybe make the channel time scale with HP a bit

[prime elk]

doubt that'd feel good if you want to balance it for one-shotting crushers and shit

[mental rock]

Well it's current form doesn't feel good either now does it

[plucky flax]

They nerfed warren 619 end event right?

Stuff barely spawn on the side platforms now.

[verbal thistle]

[plucky flax]

Ainz trying to knock a reaper to the ground so he can finish with a bb
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1345999934922690580/Desktop_2025.03.03_-_06.01.59.02.mp4?ex=67ca8c1f&is=67c93a9f&hm=4c0b9ba708e5048e1c79f93e40ec0cf89be6637a3e123768c5cd155345a0eb3e&

[prime elk]

true, pretty much anything would be an improvement

surely they couldn't possibly make it worse in a rework... right??

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

trauma bb with ep is probably the funest build for havoc that I used so far

[plucky flax]

Make sure you bb pus hardened enemies for extra damage dealt.

[verbal thistle]

true

I like the hand animations

so the pus hardened enemies make it even funner cause I get to do it 4 times

on each one

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

Partial charging BB to do fingie squishes.

[verbal thistle]

but you cant lie, bb into parasite squish kill sound is the best sound in game

[strong gulch]

Force sword PA into parasite head.

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-watermelon-gif-11587355

SQUISH

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1316913692650115152/Beans_Fly.gif

[raven mountain]

Actually, it'd be cool if there were a melee psyker talent that simply applied soulblaze on melee hit. There's one for bleed on Vet. I'm sure there's a limit on the number of stacks it could apply that would keep it in line.

Then I'd get to do funny soulblaze+bleed knife shenanigans.

[strong gulch]

and charched strikes with infernus gun for all DoTs

https://tenor.com/view/more-dots-moar-moredots-gif-5729347

[raven mountain]

Honestly, I love dots. In real-time games, DoTs are my favorite damage paradigm. They're not as fun in turn-based games though. 😦

It's why I like the bleed fgs build. I also fucked around with a bleed+fire shotgun

and the only vet build I actually liked was knife+shredders+bleed double barrel

[prime elk]

i tried a game where i played only bleed fgs and minimized all other sources of damage

sweatiest game i've ever played

just swapping weapons every 2 seconds

[raven mountain]

I usually end up with pretty even melee, ranged, and bleed when I run it

like 250-300k each

[prime elk]

oh i was warp slicing the moment after the last warp slice procced bleeds

[strong gulch]

I have never remembered to try the bleed slice. Not one time.

[raven mountain]

I forgot about bleed+fire shotgun

Do all the damage types!

Bleed+fire shotgun with shriek, enabled by a low warp res FGS. Two charges and I can full-power shriek.

[west smelt]

the bulwark lowering his concrete rebar club into my head mid horde

[raven mountain]

Anyone know offhand what the penetration is like on the fire shotty alt fire? Would it interact with Warp Splitting in any way?

[mental rock]

The fire shot does not do a lot to cara

Or do you mean cleave

I think it has a cap on the amount of enemies it can hit regardless of cleave but I may be wrong

[raven mountain]

Cleave, yeah.

Also, weird note. I thought KF only procced on hits, not dots.

But it's proccing on the fire dot from the accatran

Was happening in games, but I wasn't sure, so I checked in the meat grinder. Shoot Reaper. Wait... and pop.

[strong gulch]

Yeah KF will proc off regular fire DoT. It doesn't proc off SB or bleed DoTs.

[raven mountain]

That's cool. Weird that it's only that dot.

[cosmic sigil]

it's team, modifier, skill

[nocturne dust]

Patented Fatshark Programming™️

[copper jay]

We need to pin this.

[strong gulch]

I feel it necessary to shout out @nocturne dust for the SG voidstrike build.

[copper jay]

SG ?

[marble crater]

Sciers Gaze of course

[plucky flax]

Gazer

[strong gulch]

Agent is here. If you ever need a build and want to see it in action, just steal from Agent's YouTube.

https://youtube.com/@agentchaosmeme?si=BtkGucUU2zW3Nmpi

[marble crater]

Half the builds only work because of the 500 mods he uses

[strong gulch]

😭

Also skill.

[marble crater]

Yes, but mostly the mods

[plucky flax]

Sounds like cheater

[strong gulch]

My zealot only doing 200k damage because I just run around confused.

[brazen rampart]

If: heretics
Then: charge them

Hope this helps.

[wispy bay]

I play with no mod, so I'm always sweaty during auric mael and H35+.

[weary crane]

Ogryn brain insight

[plucky flax]

It's gaming for the blind deaf mute disabled gamer 🫃

[brazen rampart]

What is an ogryn if not a fat zealout?

(with all due respect to the big men, of course)

[plucky flax]

Wish they buff vet melee attack speed talent back to 15%

It's far enough down the tree to be a big investment

[marble crater]

Nerf it to 5%? Done

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

[brazen rampart]

Oops, fatshark put a period in by accident, trench fighter drill is now .15%

[weary crane]

Vet will always be trash at melee with that hella long stamina regen delay

[brazen rampart]

(they copy pasted twbs into a vet talent once, this is not beyond them)

[marble crater]

With the changes being 37 pages long, do we expect a DS nerf?

[brazen rampart]

I fucking pray.

[plucky flax]

Remove it from other 2 classes

[brazen rampart]

No, don't do that, but definitely reign it in.

[marble crater]

Take it away from vet and zealot, yeah

[brazen rampart]

I dont think you understand how horrendously the game would be review bombed if they did that.

[marble crater]

Okay, nerf DS into the ground and then give psyker a Force Dueling Sword with the stats of the current DS marks

[brazen rampart]

Brother, you literally have obscurus and deimos.

Obscurus can instakill a crusher. This isn't a joke.

It can just do that.

[marble crater]

Does my Obscurus have the mobility of a DS?

[brazen rampart]

I dont think you understand the broken part of ds isn't the mobility, it's the fact that it can 2tap or 1tap crushers.

The mobility is just insult to injury.

It would be fine as a hyper mobile weapon, IF it didn't remove the hardest part of the game so easily, being melee elites.

You want an example of a very mobile weapon that is relatively balanced? Tac axe.

Also, 1h force swords are plenty mobile.

Especially since obscurus and illisi got their dodges buffed a few patches ago.

[marble crater]

I will settle for force swords with DS mobility then

[brazen rampart]

How about, no.

[marble crater]

No deal then

[brazen rampart]

Bold of you to assume this was a deal at all.

Psyker doesn't need duelling sword to be good at melee or remove problems like armor on staff builds.

Nerfing it into the ground shouldn't bother you in the slightest.

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie worst come to it we just try with bubble and book havoc build the map is just too hard

[summer prairie]

We could, might defeat the point though. Maybe it's just not a fun challenge

[marble crater]

Are you two using a DS?

[summer prairie]

you are right, we could just do that

[plucky flax]

Problem is just end event has too many shooters whilst specials spawning all over

[summer prairie]

double purg might be good enough

need EE always up

[plucky flax]

I'd rather go 1 surge for specials sniping

[marble crater]

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

I didn't play my new shiny op plasma yet tho

So need to try that first

[summer prairie]

Saw Cole mentioning that toxic gas has the same effect as smoke grenades https://streamable.com/32sxdi

[marble crater]

Nice, so at least now we can decide how we want to die

[summer prairie]

with SG, a high quell weapon and bomber res you can sit in gas without taking corruption damage https://streamable.com/ulmb8s

[marble crater]

Sure, but you will also be useless

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
I know

Why's your Tox gas so green though

Or it's just me?

[summer prairie]

Maybe there's so much or different lighting in psykhanium

[jovial juniper]

Could be it yeah

[marble crater]

The gas is always greener on the other side, or something

[jovial juniper]

🔥

[obtuse walrus]

So, what should I put on a voidblast staff?

[brazen rampart]

Flak, elites/crit chance, warp nexus, blazing spirit.

Alternatively you can do flak, elites, rending shockwave, warp flurry.

[obtuse walrus]

Thanks, I wanted to try out the funny blast staff - since I've been using the strike for some time.

[brazen rampart]

Just depends on whether you want to light everything on fire or make everything brittle.

[obtuse walrus]

i haven't touched fire much, except with venting shriek. And it's already a crit build

so I think this'll work

Dump stat is still warp resistance right?

[brazen rampart]

Mhmm.

The only psyker specific weapon that doesnt dump warp resistance is voidstrike, as that dumps blast radius.

It already has the projectile size of a cannonball, so, not much lost there.