psyker-class

[buoyant maple]

Before U&L update, not popular

After, got a bit more popular but somehow still not used by vast majority of people

Which is the weird thing to me

[elder pasture]

The shovel is fun and thematic

[nocturne dust]

I'm not wrong, it's just slow

[buoyant maple]

I don’t understand why it’s not absurdly popular

Is it because zealot players start the game with a non-BM Rashad so they write it off as soon as they get smth else

[clear heath]

tbf it actually isn't that popular outside this community

you don't see it that often in pubs

[buoyant maple]

Exactly

I don’t know what Cole is attacking me for

[clear heath]

majority of people don't know how BM works

[nocturne dust]

Rashad is pretty decently popular in pubs, idk what you people are talking about

[autumn smelt]

The vast majority of people in the game care about perfect godroll breakpoints, or even know about them
They know "this weapon kills things gooderer than other stuff so I'll use it"
Which is what Rashad was

[nocturne dust]

*don't care

The vast majority go off vibes

[buoyant maple]

Again, refer to what I said

Before U&L it straight up wasn’t popular (abysmal godroll chance)

After, it somehow didn’t become vast majority which is what surprised me

[elder pasture]

Me!

chainaxe is good vibes

[autumn smelt]

I saw it literally every other game in the hands of a vet prior to UnL with the other ones using knife or PS

[young cliff]

I'm aware, still like the weapon more than others

Also u wrong

[nocturne dust]

I saw pp builds mostly before U&L

power sword and plasma gun

[plucky flax]

There's definitely more ds4 on vet now than peesword vet.

Veri sad.

[buoyant maple]

Before U&L it was more of a “u got an insane roll so ur gonna one trick it”

[nocturne dust]

Veri cool

[elder pasture]

Bring back pee sword era

[plucky flax]

Pee sword pee gun pee shout the ultimate vet build.

[nocturne dust]

Psword icky Annoying charge spam is annoying

[buoyant maple]

I’m waiting for tac axe to be good and power axe to be released so I can have some variety instead of Rashad 24/7 for another 400 hours

[west smelt]

let's go GAMBLING! (seeing if your brainburst will kill the ravager before the ravager kills you)

[clear heath]

Most normal people don't realize that rashad is good
My friend didn't know how BM worked, swung it at a mauler and it didn't die, swung it at a crowd and it didn't cleave, and asked me in confusion why i said it was good

[nocturne dust]

Psykers with 4 staff choices since release:

[plucky flax]

Maybe that's what I need to play to actually win with syllo.

Gotta try pee build.

[patent mango]

gamble whether people focus fire ur bb target or not....

[summer prairie]

I can't win, sorry

[buoyant maple]

Well deserved

[elder pasture]

Sorry I am a noob what is BM and how does it work with this Rashad fella

[plucky flax]

We'll get em next time tiger.

[buoyant maple]

Tbh they should make more variants of staves

[plucky flax]

I play better at home too (weekend)

[elder pasture]

bad manners?

[buoyant maple]

Not necessarily new staves just new variants

Give a slower charging EK that has higher crit chance & damage

Same exact attack modes

[nocturne dust]

Give Coruscation as Inferno/Voidblast variant

[nocturne dust]

Brutal Momentum

Hit weakspots

win

[elder pasture]

Oh I use that

[marble crater]

Such a hater

[west smelt]

you don't know how infuriating it is, i was in a game using my brain burst a lot but my teammates kept shooting those enemies, i stop using it because all it does is needlessly generate peril for me, then one of them gives out to me over vc for not using brain burst on the bulwarks and crushers......BRUH

[elder pasture]

Why is that not seen as good?

Is the head a weak spot?

[clear heath]

People don't know how the ignore hitmass thing works

[nocturne dust]

Use RMB charge instead of LMB

[buoyant maple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925855860557746267/1148583910691836006/JMYS0W5RDOL7U41RPH.gif

[deft stump]

???

[nocturne dust]

Slower, sure, but no wasted bursts is better

[patent mango]

lmao

[west smelt]

i do try to but during those moments it was very hectic

[patent mango]

people like shooting glowy target

[west smelt]

true

[nocturne dust]

BB is the real Focus Target

[buoyant maple]

FYI you had a 0.000625% chance of rolling a Rashad base before U&L where it had enough damage across 4 damage stats to hit breakpoints

This doesn’t include the necessary perks and blessings (which were also super specific)

[deft stump]

WDYM? I play heresy and just derp around,

[nocturne dust]

I didn't say every player in Heresy

[plucky flax]

What's gud for plasma? 71% charge rate and how much thermal resist?

I'll try to buy it.

[buoyant maple]

68-69%

Technical answer is 68.?%

Safe bet is 69%

[plucky flax]

I have 25 mil gold should get it at some point.

[buoyant maple]

Idk where that decimal is

[deft stump]

Also, doing penances for crabwalk in very low havocs is funni.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-so-funny-gif-27253208

[deft stump]

Wait, that one shouldn't have been tagged.

[narrow herald]

[marble crater]

Why is that anyway?

I followed the guide blindly

[west smelt]

marksman's focus?

[deft stump]

Yep.

[west smelt]

that took me around 50 hours to complete btw

[buoyant maple]

Because there’s a chance u roll a 68.1% and it doesn’t have 8 shots

[deft stump]

49 mins.

1 H1 game.

[buoyant maple]

Again idk where that 68.?% decimal point is

Could be .4%

Could be .6%

[deft stump]

We AFKed in the kitchen, lul.

[buoyant maple]

So the safest bet is 69%

[west smelt]

is it the kitchen during the mission you have to explode 2 walls?

[deft stump]

Yeah. mercantile.

[west smelt]

oh i didn't even think of that

sometimes i farmed right at the end of a mission, like the mission you have to get rid of a tree

[marble crater]

Right, sorry. I mean why do I want that much and not 80 or 60 and same with charge

[west smelt]

the Hab Dreyko mission

[upper sun]

do you have all the docket shop yet?

[plucky flax]

Ye ages ago

[upper sun]

damn...

save it maybe they finally give us more stuff or rooms or some shit

[deft stump]

It works for literally anything that lets you just smack hordes, becareful of boomers though.

[plucky flax]

It's not that hard I just have a lot of hours...

[analog agate]

Maels give you bank

[upper sun]

🚬 same

[west smelt]

they appear when you get too relaxed

[deft stump]

And then we just shout and tank it.

[plucky flax]

All gold was farmed in sedition tyvm

[deft stump]

XD

[west smelt]

lmao yeah

[buoyant maple]

Because going above doesn’t change how many shots u can fire before venting

It’s still 8 shots

You would have to use cooling related blessings to see maybe 1 shot worth of difference

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Am I scammed or is this gud enough?

[clear heath]

possibly

see how many shots you can fire from 0 heat to full

[plucky flax]

I'll upgrade it and see if I can fire 8 shots.

[vernal frost]

or use loadout config....................

so you can do that for free.........................................

[deft stump]

We also did infiltrate suppress and currently doing focus target and smokes, lul. Well, tomorrow, Idyll got too tired lul.

[plucky flax]

I can fire 8 shots

[west smelt]

infiltrate suppress ain't that bad

[plucky flax]

No because this is an actual item and I dunno if it'd be good enough to keep.

[west smelt]

you just use it as often as possible

just walk into the middle of a horde and that's it

[vernal frost]

you can use loadout config to mimic the same stat spread and see if it reaches the bp

w/o having to waste your time upgrading it

[plucky flax]

It's okay I'm really rich.

[vernal frost]

but can you buy time...............

[plucky flax]

I give you 100k plasteels

[vernal frost]

time spent holding the button.........

[elder pasture]

Whoa gimme some

[vernal frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/227912785290330113/1325291734103490601/bruh_im_dead_.gif

[summer prairie]

Loadout config doesn't do decimals, does it

[plucky flax]

Sure it's free real estate.

[deft stump]

It's eh. I can just shout anyway.

[plucky flax]

I dunno that's the thing. Since an actual weapon has weird hidden decimal.

[clear heath]

Does the stat spread have any rounding though? like is there any chance agent has like an 68.4 or something?

[vernal frost]

it doesnt on surface level, honestly good feature request

i'll ask the maintainer

[summer prairie]

And you can't see them anyway

[clear heath]

actually wait

[west smelt]

"RAAAAAAAAAHHHHH" and they just fall over

if only it was like that irl

[plucky flax]

This is it. This is the plasma gun that will win us some duo.

[summer prairie]

Sedition silo

[clear heath]

i remember asking someone about rounded stats and someone on modding server said our client only recieves them after rounding
but what if they're not rounded on the server?
What if it ends up being different in the actual matches compared to psykanium

we already know the game can round psyk and actual missions differently because stam curios...

[vernal frost]

maybe it does

[plucky flax]

Okay tru lemme go test in live server.

[vernal frost]

honestly lotta things act differently on local vs fatshark

this game is so bad........

[deft stump]

More be gremlin, everyone falls over.

[dusky crag]

I didn't know that

[clear heath]

stam curios can scam you yeah

[deft stump]

Sedation? Are you two going to do that? Gonna be hard (to stay awake).

[vernal frost]

lowk wanted to ask why would they do decimals but quickly reminded myself who we're talking about

[dusky crag]

I knew about the scam didn't know about the psyk thing

[clear heath]

yeah the fake +3 stamina curios work properly in psykanium

bad game

[plucky flax]

I can shoot 8 times in live game.

[clear heath]

okay nice

[plucky flax]

My gun is op now

[vernal frost]

this will have drastic effects on the economy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1133548538647805964/1285621141905346560/attachment.gif?=

[autumn smelt]

I feel quite hungry

[upper sun]

u should eat noob...

bros.... i can feel it dev blog tomorrow

[deft stump]

Basically, 410 or bust.

[dusky crag]

I think I'm team thursday now

[upper sun]

🚬 well see....

my minds eye never lies

[analog agate]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-of-skalitz-kcd-kingdom-come-deliverance-gif-14042213953607243455

[patent mango]

how hungry

[icy flower]

hey at least fire staff is fun

[analog agate]

Very

[patent mango]

3 psyker h40 is funny

[brazen rampart]

Have a hashbrown.

[vernal blaze]

get this freaky ass cat off my screen brug

[buoyant maple]

Unarmored
Flak
Rising heat
Gets hot

[vernal blaze]

[plucky flax]

Unarmored?

[vernal blaze]

I think unarmored is if you like really fucking hate tox bombers

[lean pivot]

Are there any ice abilities in 40k? Or necromancer psyker abilities

[vernal blaze]

1body them with buffs up I think?

[plucky flax]

I'll give them 2 plasma shots.

[icy flower]

I wish I knew. I literally don't know anything about WH40K

[lean pivot]

Lol fair enough. I'm still very new t o the lore myself. You should check out the krieg books! Pretty cool stuff.

[icy flower]

Maybe some day. For now I am just for the gameplay here.

I would vibe with ice staff though

like fire, but you hose enemies with cryo beam

[patent mango]

is ice staff canon?

[icy flower]

I really have no idea how magic works in WH and what is canon and what isn't. Just saying ice staff would be cool.

[patent mango]

i know psykers can have like cold psychic phenomena

but havent seen ice magic

[copper jay]

Any ideas how to push 7 enemies off the cliff in 2 secondes penance ?

[plucky flax]

Hmm warp magic is like innate 'cold'.

In books when a psyker start to ramp up their power there tends to be frost flowers in the air.

Then they cast a fire stream instead.

[icy flower]

I did this. Just typed in chat while playing with randoms "can I hold a bridge for cliffhanger penance? https://youtu.be/U1ecemABEzI?si=NEM-YHVavrRB868N

and they said "go ahead"

[copper jay]

OH BIG THANKS !

[icy flower]

I did ask by the time we reached that section, not at the start of the level

[icy flower]

sounds pretty cool ngl

[plucky flax]

Magic in warhammer fantasy is cooler.

There are more types.

Taste gold magic.

[west smelt]

a gold wizard always knows how to place a bribe

[young cliff]

and all this time doing it with ogryn's "no pushover", that looks more hilarious

[patent mango]

i wish ogryn was real

[icy flower]

ogryn psyker

you rush through enemies while setting them on warp fire

[patent mango]

ogryn soulblaze build

[marble crater]

Ogryn pox gas build, it's really just farts

[narrow herald]

Ogryn bleed soulblaze dot build

[patent mango]

ogryn staff build (he tosses sticks through people)

[young cliff]

It tosses sicks set on fire, they serve as torches for darkness levels

Doesn't set them on fire, it just makes them bleed

[west smelt]

kind of impossible since nobody communicates for some reason

[strong gulch]

If that doesn't work out, the beginning of Habzone HL-70-04 "The Carnival" is a good place to farm for cliffhanger. Use smite to grab the horde and toss em. #psyker-class message

This is also an option. The map in the video is chasm station.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiZp4X8YQww

End of hab dreyko (3 bridges at end but 2 explode) might also be and area worth trying. That's also a place to farm the kill 40 during SG (scrier's gaze) penance.

[west smelt]

this is cruelty

[strong gulch]

It used to be more. 😵‍💫

[marble crater]

Look at all these people struggling with cliffhanger

[strong gulch]

Glad I got it on accident and didn't have to farm for it.

[west smelt]

it's having to deal with the time of getting to a good spot and praying your team doesn't just keep killing the group you're trying to build up

[narrow herald]

Just keep playing Gloriana

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message that's why I love the method in this video

[strong gulch]

Too bad it specifies "enemies", you could easily toss teammates too.

[west smelt]

damn i didn't know you could do it like that

[marble crater]

We don't need a reason to barrel our team

[strong gulch]

Especially on gloriana

[marble crater]

If they didn't want to get barreled, they wouldn't stand next to them

[copper jay]

BIG THANKS I DID IT

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Yay!!!!

[copper jay]

Now doing Defy Fate

[marble crater]

Now do warp battery

[copper jay]

I already did 👀

[marble crater]

Do it again

[copper jay]

Once I did Defy Fate I'm full penance PSYKER

I misread this penance and changed a talent

I didnt understand that was 15 charges or more, I thought that was only fate active but not atleast 15 charges

[marble crater]

[copper jay]

I asked my team to wait for nothing 😭

[patent mango]

mayb news tomorro...

[analog agate]

Would be Thursday

[upper sun]

the voices said tomorrow

[patent mango]

h40 experience

[analog agate]

Beware the warp

[upper sun]

smh this is why i run bomber resist(it wouldnt have helped)

i swear bomber resist doesnt do anything

[copper jay]

Defy Fate over

That was fucking easy with Assail

[strong gulch]

I'm pretty good at getting pelted by the bombs. Like domed in the head and stunned for a moment.

[copper jay]

I finished the tutorial part I

[patent mango]

lets goo

[copper jay]

I was worried for Malleus Monstronum but I found a party in 3 minutes and everyone helped me

This community is so helpful 😭

[marble crater]

Do ogryn penances now

[copper jay]

W-Why ? 😰

[patent mango]

for the ogryn rework

[copper jay]

Kill 5000 enemies with Heavy attack .........

[patent mango]

lmao

i grinded that in a hack event

[copper jay]

wtf is this

This is the first one i'm reading

WTF ARE ORGRYN PENANCE 😭

This is farming MMO version ????

[marble crater]

see you next year

[copper jay]

The devs hate Orgryn or Ogryn didnt have Penance rework ?

[patent mango]

idk

[marble crater]

Many of those penances are very new, just like other classes

[analog agate]

I haven’t completed both the ogryn penances for shooting things. Ogryn ones are such a slog

[upper sun]

its not so bad

fuck the box one tho

[copper jay]

THEY ARE

[upper sun]

u can cheese them

mercantile start has a big hoard

you can nuke it and leave the game after

toxic behavior will continue until solo mode is added 🫡

[marble crater]

[patent mango]

why doe sogryn get 61 anyways

[marble crater]

They're bigger, so they have more. Simple as.

[patent mango]

its true

[upper sun]

fatshark trying to force people into playing more ogryn

[patent mango]

force people to play ogryn with fist wep

[autumn smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-американскийпсихопат-кристианбейл-american-psychopath-christian-bale-gif-17867735

Now let's see the full bar of penances

[buoyant maple]

Pretty chill
Except “gone bowling”

Psyker has the easiest penances overall

Ogryn is most chill

[autumn smelt]

Gone bowling has only gotten easier over time with more an more opportunities to have a million ogryns in 1 spot

[buoyant maple]

Gone bowling is 60 enemies in 1 rush

Ur talking about the other one

[autumn smelt]

Oh that one
Also just as easy for similar reasons
Like just bullrush a havoc horde

[strong gulch]

Was it @clear heath and @nocturne dust talking about chorus pulses while back? That sometimes there's more than 5 but some boost didn't or something didn't account for those extra pulses??

I was toying around with the HUD Buff Stacks mod last night, and it only ever counted up to 5 even when there were more.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/470

[autumn smelt]

The cap is 5
So even with multiple choruses you'll only have 5 stacks/+100 gold

[nocturne dust]

iirc it was about chorus pulses and toughness generation from those pulses, so kinda related

[strong gulch]

oh gotcha

[strong gulch]

Thanks!

[clear heath]

The 5 stacks is just for the gold toughness. Completely separate from whether the sub node buff works or not.
My observation was that the way the sub node counts to 5 is just completely random. Sometimes it's 6 or 7 pulses to get the buff
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1329926908103884872/chorus_buff_pulses.mp4?ex=67c8c373&is=67c771f3&hm=258813618a7822ad5e9b9916547d32923aeda860ec3508a3aa155d37ca755712&

this buff

buggy as hell

[strong gulch]

THAT'S what it was. Right.

That was such a hazy memory.

[clear heath]

5 = 5 or 6 or 7 according to fatshark math

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

[young cliff]

Yo be fair, I doubt MorbidlyobeseShrimp knows how to count to 5, just like ogreen

[copper jay]

Zealot seems pretty chill too

[buoyant maple]

2 backstab penances not fun

[wispy bay]

Crusher maul is surprisingly good for that since it has good stagger.

[patent mango]

crusher is pretty noice

[autumn smelt]

The task is not yet finished

You must press on

[upper sun]

nah its finished

[marble crater]

Yeah, I probably will never finish the train mission penances, because fuck that

[upper sun]

im not playing havoc until they fix it

[wispy bay]

Which one?

[drifting steeple]

What's wrong with havoc?

[nocturne dust]

Clad is just a hater

[upper sun]

takes too long
fading light too punishing
demotions too punishing esp when servers are unstable
servers are unstable
players cant rejoin very easily
promotions take too long if you arent hosting and even if you are

mass buffs reduce weapon choice

[nocturne dust]

Hard mode when it's hard

[upper sun]

health buffs ruin breakpoints reducing the game to a hug the psyker/zealot simulator

[brazen rampart]

I'm actually with Clad, for once.

Havoc isn't the fun kind of difficult, it's just difficult for the sake of being difficult.

The fact that most weapons are invalidated solely due to hitmass issues is unbelievably annoying.

[nocturne dust]

I don't disagree but I don't know what people expected from clamoring for more difficulty

Your strategies and weapon choice are going to be invariably restricted by harder difficulties

[brazen rampart]

"More difficulty" does not mean I want to be 1tapped on every class for one mistake.

It also does not mean I want to be shoehorned into an annoying ass build.

[upper sun]

its not even that hard if your team can coordinate well and everyone does their job

played a 38 with atlas and potato and tren and it was easier than damnation

[nocturne dust]

Well, I would respond by stating just lower your Havoc level

[upper sun]

the entire game all we did was hug the smyker

it was disgusting

[nocturne dust]

sure would be nice

if Fatshark let us freely change Havoc level

[brazen rampart]

Dropping my clearance is not the answer.

[patent mango]

lmao

[upper sun]

i spammed demotions to speed run level zeros

[brazen rampart]

The answer is to deliver a difficulty that is both the fun kind of difficult and not complete and utter cbt to pull off.

[upper sun]

the 100 havocs insignia looks fire

[nocturne dust]

Again, the answer would be to lower the difficulty

[brazen rampart]

No it's not lmao.

[nocturne dust]

Like, that is literally the answer, if you don't like the increase in difficulty.

[brazen rampart]

Fading light alone covers most havoc clearances.

The gamemode itself is the issue.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but you can take shots to the face at lower levels.

[brazen rampart]

Fading light is far too oppressive with how it currently is.

I'm not saying I should just be able to botwalk like I do in aurics, but I shouldn't be able to be 1tapped by a single stalker that has been hiding for the last 2 minutes.

[patent mango]

ammo reduction is annoying and obliterates gunluggers
mass increases incentivizes inf cleave
the 20 gunner buffs encourage golden tough spam

[upper sun]

one of my worst maelstrom experiences was 4 bubble psyker

i cant believe they made a gamemode out of bubble hopping

[brazen rampart]

Like I don't get the people that say "hurr durr hard gamemode is hard, who would've guessed?" because the difficulty is completely artificial.

[nocturne dust]

I don't see that as a problem, tbh, the problem is that's the only thing incentivized. Different versions of the buffs that enable different types of strategies to counteract them would go a long way.

[nocturne dust]

The game is artificial

wtf u mean

[brazen rampart]

There is no depth to it, it's just shoehorning a build for each class, making ogryn almost unplayable, and generally just being a nuisance just to complete penances.

[young cliff]

Giving people less resources to shoot while also making enemies almost impervious to ranged fire seems like an odd choice, specially since weakspot hits doesn't ignore it

[weary crane]

Tbf the hitmass increase and ammo decrease has made psyker the best class on havoc

[brazen rampart]

I'm fine with the ammo decrease, tbh, but the hitmass issues have got to go.

[upper sun]

:himm

should i play kickback in havoc

i wonder whats gonna happen...

[patent mango]

gl

[upper sun]

4 shots to kill one enemy
ammo pick ups give 1 boolet

[weary crane]

Like melee ogryns cant horde clear, and gunluggers cant shoot because there is no ammo

[upper sun]

[brazen rampart]

Melee ogryns can clear.

They just need to use either shield or wrathsolas.

[young cliff]

It's crazy odd how Karl with wrath is the one weapon that seems capable to do it, even other pickaxes can't do the same with wrath for some reason

[upper sun]

DU VILL PLAY SHIELD...

[brazen rampart]

The problem here is, again, shoehorning weapon choice.

[patent mango]

i dont wanna play shieeeld

[brazen rampart]

And also, you're playing a fucking ogryn in a gamemode where you get 1tapped by a single stalker.

[wind falcon]

Does psyker have any good single target staves?

[upper sun]

you will play shield and only shield and you will like it

[patent mango]

nooooooo

[nocturne dust]

EK staff

[brazen rampart]

EK rmb and Voidstrike rmb do great single target damage.

[upper sun]

surge(elektro something)

[weary crane]

Pickaxe with bromentum would actually make ogryn playable in havoc 40

[brazen rampart]

Voidstrike needs to headshot though.

[brazen rampart]

Doesn't need it, it literally has wrath.

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike isn't great single target

[brazen rampart]

Even on h40 you can cleave 3 maulers with bodyshots.

[upper sun]

put brutal momentum on everything

[drifting steeple]

I love shield!

[weary crane]

Infinite cleave is better than 99999999999 cleave

[young cliff]

Bromentum needs to die, make the weapons better to not need it darn it!

[upper sun]

put brutal momentum on plasma gun

[brazen rampart]

There ya go, being wrong again.

[drifting steeple]

Question

[brazen rampart]

Voidstrike wants dd and it does great single target.

You can easily onetap any gunner or shotgunner.

[drifting steeple]

Are the blitz/ability/etc what make a meta build or is it the talents around it

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Inferno can out-dps it on bosses pretty easily, so can EK, even assuming you hit every weakspot with Voidstrike

[brazen rampart]

Strong talents make a meta build.

[nocturne dust]

Like, one-tapping gunners and shotgunners is nice, but every staff effectively does that (Inferno doesn't but it's Inferno )

[weary crane]

I don't think meta builds even exist anymore, everything can work in the right gamemode

[brazen rampart]

Look at zealout, meta builds always take second wind because it's the only toughness gen that's viable.

[upper sun]

generally something anti armor/bosses, something for clear and disabler removal

[marble crater]

Doing it a million times

[upper sun]

as long as you have a tool for everything its meta

like for example

[brazen rampart]

There's also a little flow chart for weapon choices for each of the 3 human classes.

[nocturne dust]

A meta build is comprised of every part, not sure what you mean

[drifting steeple]

So I can play my assail/shield/DD or empowered in havoc?

[drifting steeple]

See above

[upper sun]

fire staff smite with illisi is not meta because you have no tools for armor

[brazen rampart]

Zealout picks a melee, then a gun to complement it. Psyker does the opposite. Vet picks loadouts with both weapons in mind.

[nocturne dust]

You can play gunker in Havoc. You will be off-meta, but you can do it.

[weary crane]

Just make sure you use assail

[brazen rampart]

There are 2 builds for havoc, either staff bubble or true gunker.

[nocturne dust]

So assail/shield/DD is fine

[brazen rampart]

OR

Alternatively...

You do true gunker with smite and warp unbound.

[drifting steeple]

Is that gunker?

[brazen rampart]

10s of free smite is fun.

[young cliff]

Vent isn't considered in havoc?

[nocturne dust]

Pretty much, yes

[drifting steeple]

Huh

Cool

[brazen rampart]

Nope, you lack survivability when you run vent.

[marble crater]

Are you sure? #psyker-class message

[drifting steeple]

I literally didn't realise

[nocturne dust]

True gunker takes scrier's but bubble works plenty

[drifting steeple]

That was my second assail build I liked

[nocturne dust]

Next you will post reddit comments telling me gunker can't h40

[patent mango]

ohhh my god

[drifting steeple]

But I wasnt sure about my abilities for scriers

[brazen rampart]

I have a 1m damage board laying around somewhere where I did h40 as gunker, too.

[clear heath]

wasn't expecting to see you call holding smite "fun"

i've never been more disgusted

[drifting steeple]

I've just been using guns the entire time and kind of forgot I had staves

"damn why is it so hard to quell peril"

[brazen rampart]

I am holding a legion of shit for 10s so my team can breathe. Being their savior is great.

[proper osprey]

When the cranial corruption modifier isn’t active I run it

I love vent

[brazen rampart]

Warp unbound abuse in h40 is the only time I will ever condone holding smite.

[nocturne dust]

Vent is damage, and bubble is defense. You need defense in Havoc 40. If you have other psykers running bubble, you can run vent, but a 3-psyker comp is pretty rare (and 2 bubbles are still very effective due to bubble downtime)

[upper sun]

noobarudo....

[upper sun]

I LOVE VENT

[patent mango]

wanna carry

[upper sun]

wanna stay connected all game

[patent mango]

fatshark is ddosing me

[brazen rampart]

Clad can't even clutch against 3 crushers and a basic horde...

[upper sun]

ur 900 mods are ddosing you

[patent mango]

those 3 crushers were powerful

[upper sun]

🚬

[patent mango]

i dont even have the most mods here

[upper sun]

im getting ptsd to our havoc 40

[brazen rampart]

Brother, he has a hammer and a bolt pistol with 50 rounds in reserve...

[proper osprey]

I can’t play with mods atm

[drifting steeple]

I have found my true calling

[patent mango]

lmao

[proper osprey]

It keeps crashing

[young cliff]

You run 2 bubbles? That much is needed to kill all the enemies before it expires? (I know that due damage it burns fast)

[drifting steeple]

I am a gunker

[upper sun]

rent free

[weary crane]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e5af394-9ae4-4c5a-ad72-8f507266f8ba/test-39

This is super fun but i wouldnt recommend in havoc because its squishy

[patent mango]

my highest dmg as gunker i think

[brazen rampart]

Living in someone's head "rent free" for being an idiot is not a good look.

[patent mango]

idk what happened here tbh

[upper sun]

rent

free

[marble crater]

[proper osprey]

Frog unironically dreams about me lol

[nocturne dust]

Enemies will shoot bubbles down to their minimum uptime pretty often

which is like 6 seconds iirc?

[marble crater]

Yea

[brazen rampart]

Not terrible but no soulstealer and flesh tearer knife icky.

[young cliff]

Yeah, because they are alive, I take we lack tools to eliminate gunners fast BECAUSE those damned modifiers

[proper osprey]

@upper sun

[weary crane]

Flesh tearer knife with gaze is amazing

[nocturne dust]

You don't lack tools, there are just so many enemies

[brazen rampart]

Ok but greatsword is right there.

[nocturne dust]

It's why infinite cleave is king, and Psyker's three best options are Inferno, Trauma, and FGS, in that order

[patent jacinth]

So is tac axe

Both would be so much better

[drifting steeple]

Is the trauma staff the one that shoots out from the floor

[patent jacinth]

Yes

Voidblast is its current name

[weary crane]

They renamed it

[drifting steeple]

Yes I know they renamed it

I'm still navigating voidblast/strike as is

[nocturne dust]

Voidblaze when

Voidshock when

Voidbeam when

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-over-now-all-thats-left-you-and-the-infinite-void-infinite-void-lumalee-gif-17884628256086901988

[drifting steeple]

A beam would be sick as fuck

[patent mango]

voidpunch staff

[weary crane]

A weapon that opens a portal to the warp and sucks enemies inside

[drifting steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-beam-hatsune-miku-blue-gif-4896781555411033723

[deft stump]

You can run it, but you better be some god gamer squad or you will suffer.

[weary crane]

Nu uh

[nocturne dust]

Voidport

[weary crane]

EE

[young cliff]

What it sounds is that the game has a difficulty by inflating values, in this case enemy density, while the players doesn't really have clear tools to face it, shooters being too many and not a good way to kill all of them (more with ammo being limited), hordes being so dense that weapons in melee can properly control them... Can it be done by 2 people?

[nocturne dust]

People have soloed h40

[clear heath]

people have done it

[deft stump]

Someone solo'd with oggy and there's many zealot solos.

[drifting steeple]

Insane

[marble crater]

Oh yeah, earlier I played with 3 people who all had dodge and jump on the same button, twice I saw them jump up into the crusher overhead and die, it was glorious

[weary crane]

Yeah by avoiding everything

[patent mango]

emperors chosen rejects

[patent jacinth]

Nah theres actual solos

[deft stump]

Even Fury solos, so no coward invis run.

[young cliff]

So they don't engage in the game

[patent jacinth]

I think Ratgirl or something has one where she actually kills things before moving on

[nocturne dust]

not all of them

[patent jacinth]

Still sycorax knife flamer but its a start

[weary crane]

So they take on 2 bosses, countless specialists, crushers, bulwarks and hordes at once?

[deft stump]

Yeah, but you have to deal with funky colors for that run.

[patent jacinth]

Pretty much

[drifting steeple]

Combat knife was my first mastery weapon
Hehe knife go slash slash

[deft stump]

It's Slaaneshi gaming lmao.

[weary crane]

Without exploiting map design

[drifting steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-knife-running-with-knives-gif-13862209

[patent jacinth]

You can literally look it up its posted on youtube

[young cliff]

Can you share some examples?

[nocturne dust]

not really, I don't bother with Darktide tubers

[deft stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyD0OEUiYJA

[patent jacinth]

There it is

You can tell they play the level because its a fucking hour long

[weary crane]

Top comment

[nocturne dust]

Everyone complaining about psyker being OP yet it is Zealot that solos 😭 (/s)

[patent mango]

nerf zealot buff psyker

[weary crane]

He's using a scab melee mostly map right?

[nocturne dust]

You mean nerf Ogryn

[patent jacinth]

Those don't exist in h40

[weary crane]

There is hardly any gunners

[patent jacinth]

Thats just the beginning of Sycorax

[deft stump]

This is H40, WDYM?

[young cliff]

Man, looking at that I'm reminded that ogryn can't dodge long enough to dodge 2 crusher's overhead swings

[nocturne dust]

There's a normal amount of gunners from what I saw of the video

[patent mango]

ogryn can dodge to the defeat screen

[weary crane]

Has anyone done true solo h40 psyker?

[autumn lark]

It would be the same video

[young cliff]

From what I'm seeing is that speed is the only way to solo that, so weapons like relic blade aren't good for this, right? You can't really try engaging fights and holding your ground on that difficulty

[autumn lark]

Might even be faster than that due to scrier movement speed and disrupt destiny

[copper jay]

Yes ... My Favorite one on Vermintide..
Beam + shotgun...

[young cliff]

Tried to do that on a controlled test, I'm pissed how right you are

[weary crane]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-fly-darktide-explode-goodbye-gif-16510274390543607132

[patent mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/794801623036854302/1165501685792251924/crumple.gif

[young cliff]

No stinking wonder everyone is speed freaks in the game, all I learn from this is that people hate fighting directly because it can't be done, only speed is the one language that can be used, this is why knife is so well regarded by zealots, the game is so fast that other options than a quick knife to kill that enemy that was in your way to keep moving is how it's done

Is...this what we want? Is it the one way to do it?

[patent jacinth]

No

It’s the one way to do it if you play the game wrong

Killing things works

[young cliff]

Yet I'm sure no one sell the supposed stress test in that way

[deft stump]

Ppl play how they want to tbh. I would totally want to go greedy recon pewpewpew only, but limited ammo and randoms means I can't do it.

[nocturne dust]

Let me put it this way: Psykers are complained about despite their most meta weapons being some of the slowest weapons in the game

Psykers themselves have very low movement speed, especially on staff builds

[deft stump]

Unless I'm duoing low havocs with Idyll for penances.

[patent jacinth]

Psykers are also the fastest class

It’s funky

[nocturne dust]

Potentially

[young cliff]

A simple swap to melee and boom

[nocturne dust]

But good luck reaching that potential at the moment you need it

[nocturne dust]

FGS being super slow:

[patent jacinth]

FGS has 4 dodges it isn’t that slow

[deft stump]

I thought you have SG and stroke?

[nocturne dust]

It is only slightly faster than staff

[dull scroll]

FGS's only weakness is the fact it's slow

[nocturne dust]

by virtue of it having a neutral speed bonus while staff has a negative speed bonus iirc

[dull scroll]

relatively speaking

[patent jacinth]

It’s faster than a lot of other human melees

[analog agate]

A psyker h40 would be very impressive

[nocturne dust]

I wouldn't recommend SG on Havoc even on meleeker

[analog agate]

No room for error

[deft stump]

Oh, havoc.

[nocturne dust]

Lot easier than Ogryn h40

[deft stump]

I saw like 4 oggies in H40 already.

[nocturne dust]

like?

[patent jacinth]

Crusher, thammer, Chaxe

[nocturne dust]

The bonus speed isn't the same as dodge count btw

[analog agate]

I guess the same problem for ogryn on h40 is the same as regular. Shitty mobility and specials.

Nm, shooters. It is shooters

[deft stump]

So I assume it would be fine if you know what you are doing.

[patent jacinth]

I know

[brazen rampart]

Idk where this "greatsword is slow" mindset comes from but it's straight up wrong.

[nocturne dust]

Well, Chaxe sucks so...

[brazen rampart]

Yall are just conditioned to how fast 1h fs and ds are.

[nocturne dust]

and Crusher + Thammer are both Zealot weapons, and Zealot has FotF...

[deft stump]

I know someone who carries my ass who uses that.

[dull scroll]

it's not atk speed, it's the move speed

[deft stump]

And basically solos sections.

[nocturne dust]

Slower than every other meta psyker melee

[brazen rampart]

It's still not slow.

Again, yall are just conditioned to the speed of 1h fs and ds.

Knife is its own move speed class so I'm not counting it.

[dull scroll]

compared to the nearest competitations like ds4 and knife? it's very slow

[young cliff]

You know, I have learned a lot of things from like 2 months on the game, and gotta be honest, Im not a fan of how the balance goes off a cliff when a stress test is put on it, might see something on some classes but in general really not a fan how things go specifically on the mentality of players (and maybe Devs too?)

[deft stump]

Rashad though.

[brazen rampart]

Do you understand what being "conditioned" means?

[nocturne dust]

Bounded accuracy

[dull scroll]

meaningless, if it's slower it's slower

[nocturne dust]

It's very hard to balance for infinite range, you have to put limits on the numbers somewhere

[brazen rampart]

How about you compare it to weapons that aren't hyper mobile?

Like, idk, dclaw?

[patent mango]

poor dclaw

[nocturne dust]

Again, slower than every other meta psyker weapon

[young cliff]

Ok mate I will toss a swear off it, just let you know I
H A T E
That concept from DnD

[nocturne dust]

Lmao

[brazen rampart]

It just needs a base damage tuneup and flak adm buff and it'll be great.

[young cliff]

I'm not kidding, I despise it

[patent mango]

it do so little damig.....

[nocturne dust]

You can break any system if you push numbers hard enough

[analog agate]

I have a problem where i get stunned/no dodges on fgs. Even if I haven’t dodged in a bit. It seems to be some bug with swinging a lot of something

[nocturne dust]

So, bounded accuracy is an inevitable necessity, especially because there's really no point to balancing numbers that will never be achievable by players

[dull scroll]

the point of why you make said comparison is because it's competiting to be a top tier weapon
and that's FGS's only downside compared to other top tier weapons
dclaw is like what, bottome of the barrel? who cares

[young cliff]

Sure, but some are far more sturdy than the slopfiesta that is that system

[brazen rampart]

Dclaw is definitely not bottom of the barrel, unless you're looking at mk1 specifically

Mk1 dclaw is objectively the worst melee in the game.

[nocturne dust]

wat is worse than the other mks?

and don't you dare say mk1

[brazen rampart]

Non rashad combat axes.

[nocturne dust]

Excuse me?

[brazen rampart]

Antax and achlys, I think their names are.

Icky weapons.

[nocturne dust]

I know one of them is very fine

I don't remember which one

[brazen rampart]

Still worse than mk4 or mk7 dclaw.

[nocturne dust]

The other I haven't touched

[nocturne dust]

[brazen rampart]

Especially for safety reasons.

[nocturne dust]

Not a chance

[brazen rampart]

Dclaw being capable of oneshotting ragers with a parry is a huge tool.

Especially when you consider that you can parry boss attacks you otherwise can't block.

[nocturne dust]

Except ragers get handled by almost any range

[brazen rampart]

For example, plogryn overhead or psword captain sweep.

You can parry both of them.

[nocturne dust]

Kinda the whole rager thing, really, you shoot them

[brazen rampart]

And the timing isn't even tight.

[nocturne dust]

If you get your parry consumed early, you die

[brazen rampart]

Then don't.

[nocturne dust]

that's still true after the Dclaw block buff

[nocturne dust]

lmao

[brazen rampart]

If youre in a position to get your parry eaten then you don't know how to use dclaw correctly.

You can parry while blocking.

Block, push once to stun chaff, then parry the elite you're fishing for.

[nocturne dust]

If I need to manage enemies until my parry can't be eaten, it's pretty useless for overheads

[brazen rampart]

And you can dodge while parrying.

[nocturne dust]

sure

[strong gulch]

There is a parry bug tho.

[brazen rampart]

Regardless, I'm not keen on being in this measuring contest, it's factual that mk4 and mk7 dclaw are better than most weapons that aren't meta.

If you wanna argue, your "points" will fall on deaf ears.

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, you don't win the argument just by stating it's fact and saying you're deaf

[brazen rampart]

🤷

Weep, then.

Idc.

[young cliff]

If someone makes a claim he is bound to bring evidence

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I'm crying right now 😭

[brazen rampart]

What bug?

[nocturne dust]

Real torn up

[strong gulch]

IDK the specifics because I didn't pay attention, all I remember is there is a bug with the parry.

I think maybe something to do with ping??? Or... I can't remember. Zealot or vet chat might know.

@autumn smelt @buoyant maple Do either of you know the specifics of the parry bug on Dclaw??

Maybe I am just having a false memory or something.

[patent mango]

if they buff dclaw parry kd psyker would be funny

ah warp unbound doesnt work for kd i forgo

[drifting steeple]

Kd?

[patent mango]

kinetic deflec

[drifting steeple]

Ah

[patent jacinth]

Kinetic Deflection, block with peril

[brazen rampart]

Kinetic deflection, you generate peril up to critical threshold when you block.

[drifting steeple]

Cool

[brazen rampart]

Can't make yourself pop with it.

[patent jacinth]

It makes revives basically free

[drifting steeple]

I remember now

[patent mango]

until a gunner obliterates you

[weary crane]

I love casually parrying a crusher overhead

[patent mango]

man dclaw ahs so many imapct blessings

what is this

[drifting steeple]

I should play more dclaw

[weary crane]

And killing demon hosts on havoc 40 bc why not

[weary crane]

Yeah the only semi good one for single target is shred

[patent jacinth]

Lumii tested skullcrusher hammerblow and it was actually decent

[weary crane]

Not on monstrosities (which is the whole purpose of dclaw in my build)

[patent jacinth]

Its actually better if you have force staggers

[strong gulch]

The one time I took dclaw, a smyker didn't let me parry anything.

[patent jacinth]

80% damage doesn't fuck around

[weary crane]

Wdum? Even with book you have to hit it like 8 times and it doesn't last that long

[patent jacinth]

its 4 stacks a hit

[weary crane]

Ig thats better than nothing

[patent mango]

update soon dclaw will be buffed 🙏

[long wharf]

wow, I've never seen nobody in chat before

game's officially dead folks, time to move on

[patent mango]

guh?

[long wharf]

the activity level of people in chats here in the striketeams is a generally good indicator of relative player activity in-game

not since the open beta have I ever seen nobody in any of the voice chats here

[patent mango]

games over everyone went to play concord

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[young cliff]

Oh sheep, better go learn how to play some hobo space cat girl

[buoyant maple]

U gotta be specific
Which bug

[patent mango]

that was one of the least bad i think

[young cliff]

Why do you think I want to play her from all the options? (Totally not because felinids)

[patent mango]

that game managed to have every character look like a mess of random colors somehwo

[young cliff]

Char designer was not fed enough rashuns, so he didn't do his job correctly, being because was under fed or ate too many corpse starch I don't know

[analog agate]

Very much in the vain of the late summer before the skill tree updates. Game had no one playing

[deft stump]

Pretty sure it's like, it's now time zone of deader areas.

[long wharf]

doubtful, it's prime game time on the US east coast

in an hour-ish starts prime gaming time on the US west coast

for it to be dead (minus the part I'm in) is notable

[young cliff]

Almost bed time is prime time for you folks?

[analog agate]

P

It isn't almost bed time

[restive slate]

What kind of build should I go for if trying to build for Assail?

I know it's not meta but just for fun

[nocturne dust]

Assailker is Gunker is Meleeker

[dull scroll]

it's pretty meta in auric

[nocturne dust]

Right side, right side, right side

[long wharf]

I used to run assail+void

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike Assail works

[long wharf]

now I go assail+fsg+surge

[strong gulch]

I only vaguely know about one. 😭

It makes the first parry not work sometimes that isn't the wrong enemy eating the parry.

Now I'm interested in all of them tho.

[patent mango]

therse more than 1? lmao

[young cliff]

Somehow I'm not surprised

[wispy bay]

It is already March and Vaultspire 13 is still not back...

[patent mango]

which one is vaultspire 13

[patent jacinth]

Excise vault got fixed on the 18th of feb

Its been 2 weeks today

[wispy bay]

Well, it got back when I was away then. Nevertheless, I haven't see it yet.

[deft stump]

Check normal Heresy and damnation rn.

[dark yarrow]

Is the person(s) that were helping me create a disrupt destiny assail build around?

[deft stump]

Auric Damnation has it rn.

[analog agate]

I am enjoying the obscurus

[patent mango]

obscurus is good its so peak

[wispy bay]

Thanks for correcting me. I was away for 3 weeks.

[jaunty current]

this doesnt look right

was a blessing removed from the staff?

[brazen rampart]

It's a bug.

Obese fish is aware of it, too.

[jaunty current]

ok

[strong gulch]

Yay! I hope to remember to try it.

[analog agate]

I like it more than fgs on EK build

[wispy bay]

Obscurus is versatile
Deimos is powerful
Illisi is crowd control

[patent jacinth]

Obscurus does better singletarget then deimos

[analog agate]

I hate the stagger on deimos. And doing the l1 swap annoys me haha

[buoyant maple]

obscurus is nice

[sturdy reef]

I still like deimos but

obscurus very nice

[wind spruce]

Lmao, really? That's nutty

So deimos has no purpose

[patent jacinth]

Deimos has amazing stagger

And it’s singletarget combo is simpler

[wind spruce]

Fair

But tbh I hate the deimos stagger

[prime elk]

deimos stagger is a blessing and a curse

[patent jacinth]

I think it’s really funny that you can sit a crusher down with a single handed poke

[wispy bay]

Have you seen the tip of deimos sword?

Maximum penetration.

[sturdy reef]

I think deimos poke outranges it

its the CC sword for elites

but obscurus single target combo is obscenely fast for how much damage it does

simple af too

obscurus H1 can stagger ragers as well

[restive slate]

Did Obscurus sword get buffed? I don't remember it having an easier horde clear combo

[deft stump]

New moveset.

Illisi and it now have Deimos dodge.

[sturdy reef]

its buffed

horde clear is l1 -> h2 repeat

[plucky flax]

The horde clear is still ass on it.

Heavy 2 is not horizontal enough.

[upbeat kestrel]

optimal obscurus for gunker would be? perks plus blessing please

[plucky flax]

Go slaughterer uncanny and call it a day.

[upbeat kestrel]

ok

and for perks?

carapace flak maniac?

[plucky flax]

I'd go carapace then either flak or maniac.

What gun u using?

If it clears specials well then go flak.

[upbeat kestrel]

columnus 8 or green recon lasgun

[plucky flax]

Slap maniac on your gun then.

[upbeat kestrel]

not needed

kill the fast enough

[plucky flax]

Recon lasgun is weak against maniac btw.

[upbeat kestrel]

DD does its job

i have deadly laser pointer on popped SG

my recon lasgun i typicall crit maxing

[plucky flax]

I run my recon las with maniac and unyielding for ref.

But you do you of course.

[upbeat kestrel]

yet to fail me

[wispy bay]

Compare to Illisi and other option, the Obscurus clear combo is still above average.

[upbeat kestrel]

gotta finish my oggy contracts after school

[plucky flax]

Seems you don't need any advice

[upbeat kestrel]

illisi has good horde clear

heck i ran my psyker wtih chainsword of all things

[elder pasture]

is this a real 3 stam curio?

[prime elk]

yeh you're good

its 400 ones that are fake

[upbeat kestrel]

i have 2 on oggy

[elder pasture]

so thats why people say 410+ or bust?

[upbeat kestrel]

and almost 3 plus 21% heatlh ones

[upbeat kestrel]

yup

[elder pasture]

do i need to also look out for that in terms of toughness 17 and health 21?

though it seems like all the recs are toughness toughness stam for the curios

[upbeat kestrel]

yeah

if you have 420 or 430 power curio youre good

[sturdy reef]

I wouldnt call the horde clear on obscurus ass

[upbeat kestrel]

410 are icky

[sturdy reef]

better than ds horde clear imo

[upbeat kestrel]

becuase some say 16 and some say 17

[upbeat kestrel]

thats certain

[elder pasture]

okay i see, thanks!

[plucky flax]

Deimos light spam with slaughterer still has better horde clear than obscurus l1h2 repeat.

And easier single target combo.

[upbeat kestrel]

deimos does not work with my brain

[sturdy reef]

deimos hrode cleaer is as good as ds

[plucky flax]

Maybe so but it has slaughterer.

With 5 stacks it becomes very decent.

[sturdy reef]

the problem is that the lights dont have much sweep

[plucky flax]

The light chain has 2 with better angles than l1h2 on obscurus though.

Then 1 very acute one and 1 stab.

@summer prairie play again tonight think positive. I bring rashad zealot build again but with shotgun instead of bistol should clear the eyes at end event really fast.

Maybe no trauma we need better shooters clear.

[hardy coral]

ive been messing with a rather offensive build using the Inferno staff & Mk V Blaze sword, its actually quite amusing with full stacks i 1 shot Ragers and 2 shot Crushers, also the Inferno staff with max stacks literally deletes hordes since the tick damage is more then the HP of poxwalkers.

[copper jay]

How ?

[upbeat kestrel]

Devil claw swords

[hardy coral]

Devil claw is amazing, ive used it pretty much on all my builds.

[upbeat kestrel]

I use dc on vet

[hardy coral]

Ragers should fear the Devil Claw.

[upbeat kestrel]

Sometimes is miss the head with the parry

[brazen rampart]

Just be aware that if you parry an overhead the timing is very tight and it's based on when their weapon hits the floor, not you.

[upbeat kestrel]

So used to it enough

Parrying maulers is fun too

[brazen rampart]

If you have bad internet or you are having lag issues, do not attempt to parry an overhead.

[hardy coral]

playerbase is lacking on my home server so i need to swap to American servers a lot, so im forced to deal with 175-250 ping. so i parry Crushers roughly in the middle of their swing.

[plucky flax]

Sea?

[hardy coral]

Australia.

[plucky flax]

Hmm can't you play like eastern Asian server?

When I was in vietnam it defaulted me to that. Lots of Chinese players

[hardy coral]

yeah but they dont speak english a lot of the time.

[plucky flax]

Tru

I changed my character name to Chinese letters and blended in

[hardy coral]

[prime elk]

stealth 100

[plucky flax]

They never knew when meatbun420 hit them

[broken carbon]

wha

[broken carbon]

i mean it’s just heavy light light

and really only the second light needs to hit

[plucky flax]

The upper cut is worse than mk2 relic upper cut

It comes out too fast to aim

[broken carbon]

i meant second light out of the 2 lights

3rd attack overall

h1 and l3 need to hit

l2 isn’t really needed for BPs

[plucky flax]

It's weird man stop normalising weird things

Like ds2. Some small tweaks to the angles are needed to feel good

[empty pivot]

take block efficiency on devil claw and it makes it use less stam when you dont perfect parry a crusher

[upbeat kestrel]

Mk2 relic blade is golden

[lethal plover]

Ping affects pre-programmed bot actions?

[hardy coral]

ping means there's a delay between the animation playing and the actual hit.

[lethal plover]

Something has gone wrong
Usually the difficulty in syncing for multiplayer games is because of unpredictable input between 2 players

Bot input and getting hit should always feel like local since the game could correct and rollback

Or maybe the ping is like 500ms in which case no bot rollback can salvage

[hardy coral]

i dunno what to tell you, its a lot like playing an FPS game like CoD and vsing other players, if it was like Helldivers where the enemies aren't effected by ping and only the players then that would be amazing but im not familiar with that kind of stuff.

[drifting steeple]

aus moment

[deft stump]

WDYM?

[marble crater]

I think they mean that Chinese players don't speak English a lof of the time

Who knows though, could mean anything really

[deft stump]

They mostly just don't speak though.

[fading patrol]

If its gibberish then its useless

[marble crater]

If they don't speak, they also don't speak English, don't they

[deft stump]

Naw, you just don't understand.

[upbeat kestrel]

Heh a question to more seasoned psykers. How would you change/rework deimos and obscurus special

[fading patrol]

They live or die, god emperor provides

[deft stump]

I don't speak when pubbing though.

[jovial juniper]

I wouldn't

Idk
Add an aoe stagger around your target

Like zealots shredding into chastise

[west smelt]

finally..................................................

[marble crater]

congratz

[west smelt]

i tried doing it on the assassination mission

but that area didn't work for me

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[copper jay]

WELL PLAYED

I GOT IT YESTERDAY TOO

[uncut sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-hak-jabb-gif-892289627481122892

[marble crater]

[drifting steeple]

what map is this

[marble crater]

Vigil Station

[west smelt]

yah it’s vigil station

[west smelt]

yippeeee!

[copper jay]

This is good ?

[upbeat kestrel]

Both good

Take one with more damage

[copper jay]

Thanks !

[marble crater]

Good until you have more money to roll for a perfect one, yeah

[twin dawn]

What the best way? Smite and push them off a bridge I’m assuming?

[quartz barn]

You can ep smite a horde thats dropping down from a spawn for cliff

[west smelt]

don’t get talents that make smite do more damage, and just stand to the side, zap em for like 3 seconds then let go

[twin dawn]

Thx!

[quartz barn]

Otherwise find a ledge + big horde, block with kd and push them off once theres enough enemies using both push plus shriek

Main issue is teammates killing enemies so you want to either stay behind or far in front

[twin dawn]

Gotcha, I gotta buddie who will duo with me, so I’ll just run a map with a bridge or ledge early,

[copper jay]

Yeah 😭 But I rolled a perfect FGS with a very low warp resistance, you cannot be always lucky

[glacial vapor]

Can be useful for Scriers builds

[young cliff]

Nothing that every ordo you own can't fix in the name of gambling

[patent mango]

news today maybe 🙏 ogryn gonna get plasteel knuckles

[young cliff]

MorbidlyobeseShrimp is running out of days to announce their Devs blog that shows their intricate methodology to Nerf ogryn

[marble crater]

Clad said he can smell the dev blog today, if there isn't one I might have to block him because of misinformation

[patent mango]

fresh cooked slop

[summer prairie]

@plucky flax only around for 4 hours or so, so would have to be earlier

[plucky flax]

I'm free now early finish with work today

[summer prairie]

doing one round of havoc

[copper jay]

I got rolled a really good voidblast, inferno and FGS

I'm poor now

And for EK this is the same thing ? Dump WR ?

[plucky flax]

Yes

Unless you want to do balls spam meme then charge rate

[copper jay]

I think i'll be good for lvl up masteries haha

But maybe once I have enough money and/or the meta change ...

But I want all staff to be ready

[upper sun]

no update 😭

[copper jay]

Play at DRG while waiting

[upper sun]

nah ill just stare at the wall

[deft stump]

Sadly, that's unplayable even with a twitch of lag. Not fun dying due to dropping down a short 10 cm drop.

[copper jay]

Last time I played was 8 monthss ago, what happened ?

[deft stump]

It's just the physics engine.

Anything higher than 100 ping means you die dropping or falling.

Scout is a guaranteed way to sudoku.

[marble crater]

Blocked

[copper jay]

Voidstrike Build Ludwig

[patent mango]

its not that bad

[deft stump]

It is. I tried playing at 300~ ping.

[patent mango]

300 ping probably tho lmao

[deft stump]

I died on engie falling a short distance that wouldn't hurt me when i'm host.

[patent mango]

what

do u even have ping as host

[deft stump]

No. the thing is.

If I play with others.

If I'm hosting, the same fall will do no damage.

When I'm not host, I'm now downed by the same fall.

[patent mango]

when i play deep ro i just gotta be careful about digging holes into walls

cause that might fling me to orbit

[deft stump]

Yes, but this is just dropping down onto yellow platforms.

And yes, i obviously have the fall damage reduction thing.

[patent mango]

fall dmg increase upgrade

deep ro physics are scary sometimes

[copper jay]

The main cause of death in DRG is gravity

[patent mango]

ye

[jovial juniper]

Yeah I remember the statistics

[deft stump]

Blame lag.

[patent mango]

the physics engine helping with that

[deft stump]

I am fine when hosting.

lag and insta down.

[copper jay]

How do you play Voidstrike ? Full charge ? Midcharge ? Spam ?

[deft stump]

Depends on target.

[clear heath]

yeah...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922136978865156168/1112301064461484053/wtf.mp4?ex=67c96117&is=67c80f97&hm=596cfd649d88ddeddc51eb8cf25cfe6ebc0c395369c3c2e976958234c4b1e8fe&

[patent mango]

lmao

games haunted

[north tartan]

The game said YOU ARE GOING TO DO THE MATRIX AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

[patent mango]

dog

[thorn cedar]

wowee the feature espresso this week at my local cafe is sweet like a brandy

delicious

[summer prairie]

done with the havoc

[plucky flax]

I'll go eat first

[marble crater]

You are always eating

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/sabrina-carpenter-sabrina-carpenter-cute-sabrina-carpenter-heart-gif-16675421282804871093

[plucky flax]

You can eat deez

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-homer-dance-gif-23875943

[marble crater]

Sabrina Espresso

[plucky flax]

Back

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

Hmm no mobien21st silo or monsters silo.

There's extra doggos and muties only.

Or just regular hishock.

[marble crater]

Does it have to be silo?

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's hard map.

Too hard.

[marble crater]

You can make it easier by inviting 2 more players

[plucky flax]

Guess we'll do doggos and cdr reduction

Actually regular hishock probably harder.

[summer prairie]

not much difference probably

[plucky flax]

I think that's regular mael not auric mael
Silo Cluster 18-66/a · Strike · Damnation · Nurgle-Blessed Hunting Grounds (Cooldowns Reduced)

[copper jay]

Voidstrike is ... pretty fun in reality