psyker-class

[brazen rampart]

Blazing spirit needs to be applied before targets die so wildfire spreads better and blazing spirit swords can do funny things.

[buoyant maple]

Blazing spirit should be nerfed for staff and maybe buffed for sword

But I rly don’t think soulblaze needs any buffs

[proper osprey]

I wish psyker had blazing spirt built in stuff

[brazen rampart]

Soulblaze needs nerfs.

[long wharf]

blazing spirit as a function of scrier's gaze would be interesting

[proper osprey]

Naurrr fatshark please ignore soulblaze trauma

Actually buff it

[fathom adder]

Flashback to Syphon Filter for PS1 and holding the taser on dudes until they caught fire

[buoyant maple]

If the pretense of that is obliterating trauma’s stagger and making blazing spirit & PC to be target capped, sure

[patent mango]

the stagger is a little silly

[long wharf]

reduce the stagger a bit, but make the damage dealt scale all the way to the edge of the actual AoE

[buoyant maple]

Reduce stagger to the point where you need a full charge to break rager combo

And 2 full charges to stagger bulwark

[brazen rampart]

If PC gets target capped then let it prefer elites or specialists pls and ty.

[buoyant maple]

Nah

[brazen rampart]

[patent mango]

can they buff charged strike plssss

[buoyant maple]

I mean

[patent mango]

bigfish... lock in...

[buoyant maple]

Either target cap & RNG

[brazen rampart]

Like I'm in favor of pc getting nerfed to be capped to like 3 enemies but it absolutely should prefer elites and specialists if it has a target cap.

[buoyant maple]

Or much lower stack per kill and innate cap on source

Like 2 stack spread and only being able to go up to maybe 8 stacks

[proper osprey]

Buff tac axe

[long wharf]

I don't think Perilous Combustion needs touching

but I definitely think it shouldn't proc when enemies die to dots

only player attacks

[buoyant maple]

Give it like an innate cap on source

And make the cap low

[brazen rampart]

I think that would be lobotomizing the talent, tbh.

Not just a nerf, you're taking it out back and executing it like it's a soviet pow.

[broken carbon]

PC should be based on the enemy

shotgunner/gunner should be like 1-2 stacks

[brazen rampart]

Ok now that's a valid rework for the talent that I can agree with.

[long wharf]

or make each enemy have an inate maximum soulblaze stack value

[broken carbon]

rager should be 3-4, ogryn should be 4-5

6 for an ogryn would be too much me thinks

ehh

[long wharf]

which fits better with the concept of their soul on fire

[broken carbon]

even 4 would probably be too much

hrm

maybe have it on radius instead?

larger enemies PC radius is larger

[brazen rampart]

Shooter elites = 2
Melee elites = 3
Ogryns = 4
Reduce soulblaze adms.

[long wharf]

make the radius based on the number of soulblaze stacks

[brazen rampart]

Soulblaze inherently does too much damage anyway, that should be addressed before any talents are touched.

[long wharf]

there are two three problems

fundamentally, players are able to get stack counts high enough quickly enough to wipe out whole areas without much trouble

so either stack numbers are too high, the damage per stack is scaling too high, or the application rate is too fast, or any combination of the three

it doesn't help that the two primary weapons used to do the above have infinite cleave in the applicable attacks

[brazen rampart]

Damage scaling is too high. Dots deal exponentially more damage the more stacks there are.

[clear heath]

yeah lower the damage

[long wharf]

I'd rather see soulblaze be turned into a debuff instead of damage

or vastly reduced damage and major warp-damage-taken debuff

[patent mango]

next update they gotta buff charged strike

it'd be so fire...

[upper galleon]

my take on the issue, psyker scales harder into enemy numbers/density than the game can keep up with

infinite cleave, on kill procs, it just compounds on itself

[long wharf]

this can also be addressed by giving each enemy type their own max soulblaze stack cap

[clear heath]

actually, i wouldn't mind if they nerfed the damage and buffed duration
really hone in the identity of being high total damage but delayed effect, as I believe DoTs are supposed to be

[upper galleon]

i think this would be too confusing and innaccessible, perhaps just further tuning the ADMs on the dots and nerfing rending where it's overtuned (ie uncanny strike?)

[buoyant maple]

All
Stack rate too high
DOT scaling too high
Stack availability too abundant

[clear heath]

things die too fast imo
it's like they forgot the "time" part of the damage over time mechanic

[long wharf]

so make soulblaze do a ramping damage dot

[brazen rampart]

It already does.

[upper galleon]

already does, exponentially

[brazen rampart]

Like it is already a ramping damage dot.

[long wharf]

instead of flat damage based on number of stacks, have the dot damage start low and grow over time based on the number of stacks

[brazen rampart]

That's how dots work in this game.

[patent mango]

wait how does soulblaze kill them dont nurgle cultists not have souls

[long wharf]

no, what I'm suggesting is numerically different

[upper galleon]

so like, agony in world of warcraft

[brazen rampart]

No it isn't, because it isn't currently flat damage based on number of stacks.

[upper galleon]

slow beginning tickrate, increasing tick rate as the dot progresses?

[long wharf]

you could have tickrate be a function of number of stacks, too

[brazen rampart]

Can you say "performance issues?"

[long wharf]

no performance issue with that

the engine is already doing dots with individual timers per enemy per dot type

[brazen rampart]

I feel like a ps5 would have it's fans kick into c130 territory if we had so many ticks going at once.

[long wharf]

no.

that's absolutely nothing, computationally, compared to the graphics load or sheer number of objects

[buoyant maple]

Hell yea let’s keep stacks and damage the same just make it tick once every 2.25s

That’s the simplest yet most brutal way of doing it

[patent mango]

give ogryn blazing spirit

[long wharf]

FartShack already nerfed ogryn boss-killing fire gun ult

[patent mango]

lol

[long wharf]

I couldn't remember the name of the talent tree node

[patent mango]

just call it uhh brutal + effect

brutal fire

[buoyant maple]

Light em up

It’s still strong

[long wharf]

yeah, and yeah it's still worth taking

just not nuking bosses like it did before

[patent mango]

i mean

[buoyant maple]

Because it’s the only source of burn that directly stacks to 31

[patent mango]

is it really worth ttaking if its attached to pbb

[clear heath]

is it really worth taking if it's attached to ogryn?

[long wharf]

pbb is quintessential and canonical ogryn gameplay

[patent mango]

ogryn moment

[long wharf]

if you aren't activating pbb as soon as it's available at all times, you really aren't Doing It Right(tm)

especially with an Achlys double stubber

[patent mango]

ogryn doesnt even get enough ammo to do it right

[fathom adder]

And make it so you have to Heavy Attack to apply it

[long wharf]

and spin a 720 while jumping off an exploding barrel

[jovial juniper]

(Gunlugger is an underexecuted concept)

Here's 8% CRIT chance, have fun

Oh also your twin Stubber has -2% CRIT chance

[potent echo]

stubber with cavalcade when

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/bvndit-dead-chat-dead-group-chat-lol-gif-26075659

[prisma igloo]

Noooo never

[pliant sage]

me when I grind up my assail rocks

[jovial juniper]

"Oh lul"

[fiery stratus]

Psykers named Palpatine

[tight scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/ga-run-excited-run-away-gif-17294421

[torn kernel]

is this good enough or should i go for lower

am i missing a bp anywhere? i know 31% is great for fgs

5 jorks to 85 w/ER

[prime elk]

negative warp res isn't super important on deimos tbh

unless you're planning to use it as an illisi, even then not a high priority

[torn kernel]

yeah i'm planning on using it as an illisi

for emergency shrieks

i only need to jork it once from 60 so

[deft stump]

Do you even need it when you blew yourself up like 3 times the last time you were on psyker?

[torn kernel]

I FORGOT I DIDN'T HAVE SHRIEK LAST TIME

i kept hitting 100 and dropped shitass shields instead of venting 😔

[deft stump]

You mean walls.

I told you that you can run literally anything.

[torn kernel]

yeah

[deft stump]

Just have BB.

[torn kernel]

look you know i'm stupid okay

[deft stump]

[prime elk]

oof, hitting him where it hurts

[torn kernel]

[clever blade]

Anyone know what does enhanced blitz condition in maelstromdo for psyker?

I know it increases grenade count for the other classes

[torn kernel]

Less peril gen iirc

Not really that significant

[plucky flax]

2 extra assails

Should play assails with that condition.

[strong gulch]

Very little. #psyker-class message

[fading patrol]

50% peril cost
+2 assail cap

[potent echo]

does it make assail stronker or nah

in terms of damage

[torn kernel]

nah

which kinda sucks bc assail's damage is uh

mediocre without SG/DD/malefic momentum (EP too i guess)

[feral carbon]

uuuuh

huh

[marble crater]

Welcome to the bug

[plucky flax]

It uses less peril only. Still +2 is really nice

More assails spam more win

[upper sun]

everytime this gets posted it eats at suts sanity 😭

[plucky flax]

If you have 1000 tru level on psyker you unlock secret blessing

[blissful solar]

can confirm

[marble crater]

Can't confirm

[upper sun]

can confirm but wont

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

You wanna play havoc 40 with karien today?

[marble crater]

sure, what time were you thinking?

[plucky flax]

I'm free today apart from when I'm eating so whenever for myself.

[marble crater]

How about evening, I can be sure I won't get interrupted then

[plucky flax]

Afternoon better for me tbh but I'm not arsed I did it this week

[marble crater]

I will see what I can do then

[deft stump]

Did you two mean event runs?

[cedar drum]

Is the knife throwing ability viable in high havox?

[deft stump]

Zealot?

[cedar drum]

No, the magic knifes

The homing missle knifes

[deft stump]

Assail. Not really. You want psykinetics aura tbh.

[cedar drum]

And if we were 2 psychers? Like, is the damage good enough?

[marble crater]

Assail damage is not good enough and doesn't hit enough targets to be viable for high havoc

[cedar drum]

Yeah, thought so too

[deft stump]

You rather 2 psykers with psykinetics then.

Inf books ftw.

[patent mango]

holy frick someone remembered it exists

[upper sun]

no it doesnt

stop posting meme weapons

[patent mango]

its edited

[upper sun]

i wouldnt have noticed tbh

[patent mango]

shock maul is a mod

[upper sun]

ah i understand

man... shockmauls and release bolt pistol are so funny to me people were so thirsty for content they jorked them non stop

now no one uses mauls and boltpistol got buffed hard

[patent mango]

bistol locked in shock maul fell into a bottomless pit never to be seen again

[upper sun]

GOOD

[patent mango]

1. new melee
2. try out new melee on psyker
3. it feels terrible
4. go back to the 3-4 good psyker melees
5. repeat

[velvet sierra]

Hi, someone up for "Cliffhanger" and "Melleus Monstronum"?

[upper sun]

i can help with MM

[hearty wolf]

I think assail is fine for havoc if you're using it to build MM stacks

[velvet sierra]

@upper sun That would be grat, Ill add you.

[icy flower]

I love blunt weapons, but shock maul feels so bad to use

1/10th of dueling sword if I am generous

Rashad and ds are the only two I can respect

[patent mango]

the random scrap weps the poxwalkers got would do more dmg than shock maul

[weary idol]

just give shock maul uncanny strike and brutal momentum

bam weapon fixed

[icy flower]

tbh my issue isn't even damage

it's the feel

psyker great sword is cool with its special

but attacking carapace feels like I am hitting enemies with inflatable weapon

it bounces off so goofy

just feels janky

hell even tactical axe feels much better, even though I just have to kill 1 enemy at a time with it

and shock maul has the same impact as if I am asking enemy if he is consenting to being hit

and he says "nah man"

[weary idol]

well yeah it's a less than lethal weapon

it's meant to subdue criminals

[icy flower]

and shock maul is a maul, anti-heavy armor thing. It should hit carapace and feel like you are pancake'ing enemies.

not bounce off like a balloon

[weary idol]

yeah you'd think the lightning+blunt weapon would be very good against armor

like a small thunder hammer for everyone that doesn't get 2 handed weapon privileges

[patent mango]

shock maul is the only wolfer approved weapon

[deft stump]

Clad is back at it, good. I can go slack off again.

[deft stump]

That's called Dueling Sword Knoife.

[copper jay]

Why play a gunker psyker instead using staff ?

Veteran is not doing better than Psyker gunker ?

[upper sun]

I think i found a new strat for cliffhanger

[prime elk]

As it should... FGS is already very strong against literally everything...

[icy flower]

again, this is about feel, not power

no weapon should feel clunky/janky imo

at least I sure don't want to play weapons that feel bad to use

[weary idol]

Highest global damage amp of any class in the game

only class in the game with a talent that increases cleave

Actually martyrdom zealot might be slightly higher

[copper jay]

Do you have some tips/build for a Gun Psyker ?

[analog agate]

The one weakness for staff psyker is fast boss dmg. Which gun psyker excels at

[copper jay]

Even with inferno staff ?

[analog agate]

Gun psyker is still much better for boss dmg than inferno. Technically gun psyker can do everything well. It just can’t do it all well at the same time like staff psyker can

[weary idol]

I mean it can because of the force greatsword

It's just harder and riskier

[deft stump]

Hrm?

[upper sun]

mercantile one person blows up the wall then triggers the hoard while the psyker stayed behind

[broken carbon]

well yah ur hitting metal armor with a sword

[icy flower]

it is also a warp powered sword

[broken carbon]

not really

it’s only warp powered when u use the special

[upper sun]

mhmm this is why you need impact so you can deal more blunt damage

[broken carbon]

true

[broken carbon]

impact dclaw

[broken carbon]

it has nothing in it implying it’s warp powered without the special

same with the other force swords

[patent mango]

i mean technically its made faster with warp stuff

not that you'd know that without outside info

[weary idol]

yeah force weapons canonically are usually pretty shit weapons

it's expected for them to be amplified by the psykers innate warpiness

[broken carbon]

fair

idk i think the bouncing off is fine

[prime elk]

yeah and carapace is the strongest armor in the game after all...

[patent mango]

when do they add adamantium armor

[weary idol]

the humble maniac healthpool

(for some weapons anyways)

[thorn cedar]

lul

i have 212 vacation hours to cash out

feels good

[upper sun]

i hate 2k so much bros

civ5 runs like shit on on my laptop

a long time ago i played it on a computer with 12gb less of ram and half the graphics card and it ran better

they updated it to 64 bit but only for mac

[upper galleon]

smaul should be anti rager but they nerfed the blessing to do that

so like, it's just mid at everything

[weary idol]

its horde clear attacks should have the same stagger as combat axe push attack

same for its single target

it's so dumb that it has less stagger than the axe

[patent mango]

wheres the carapace armored boss

[inland ice]

big fish when there is a very obvious and logical way to make a weapon more balance

i will always love smaul

[patent mango]

to make smaul good shrimply allow us to dual wield them

[inland ice]

skyrim moment

avowed moment?

[patent mango]

if avowed is so good wheres avowed 2

[inland ice]

i made avowed to see this through

[inland ice]

I think you mean Avowed: new vegas

[plucky flax]

Avowed looks so bad.

[inland ice]

its really not

its just getting hate trained by dumb reviewers who didnt know what they wanted

[plucky flax]

It looks like a true sequal to outer worlds and that game was super meh.

I played outer world and man... it was rough.

[fathom adder]

Armored Sentinel could work like Deathrattler

[plucky flax]

After watching avowed gameplay and such it's an easy skip for me.

[inland ice]

😢

[plucky flax]

This obsidian is not my fnv obsidian.

[patent mango]

avowed costs like 1-2 kidneys

[inland ice]

it costs what the average really bad darktide player spends on skins in 1 month

[patent mango]

only aquilas that are worth it are from 60% off imperial pack

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-cooking-hunter-palico-gif-13001496437032412730

[patent mango]

cause that has regional pricing lol

[autumn lark]

If only there was a massive game releasing the next week

[patent mango]

silksong...

[autumn lark]

Monster hunter dummy

[patent mango]

where silksong...

[inland ice]

obsidian when the game doesnt live up to 15 years of nostalgia and hundreds of mods that make new vegas good

[plucky flax]

It's true.

Like bioware and dragon age origins.

[daring wedge]

Greetings, Psykers! 👋

I recently started playing Darktide and am about 40 hours into it, but am struggling a bit with building my character. I've already referred to the Steam Community :: Guide :: The Psyker Atheneum, but a lot of the information is seemingly going over my head right now. Is anyone able to recommend a guide that's a bit more user friendly for players new to Warhammer and Darktide? Or perhaps a good video guide? I'm hoping something a bit more visual or "dumbed down" might help the information click.

I don't care about following the meta, per say, and am just looking to better understand how the talents and abilities function individually and in cohesion.

Thanks in advance. 🤗

[inland ice]

im convinced theres no way for them to make a game people like

[inland ice]

I think Ryken XIV on youtube is pretty good

[plucky flax]

Dray something is a good psyker.

[patent mango]

avowed just looks kinda generic from what i see

[fathom adder]

Company of Theseus, many such cases

[inland ice]

ngl it feels a lot like ESO

but better

i hate ESO but i like avowed when it doesnt crash

its practically in early release

[daring wedge]

Appreciate it! 🙏 I'm going to check out some of these videos now.

[inland ice]

ryken has to be the biggest autist

bros fgs video'

"the special attack cleave seems to be functionally infinite, but in my testing it runs out somewhere around 70 maulers"

[summer prairie]

does he mean the physical part of the attack

[inland ice]

as opposed to the imaginary part?

[summer prairie]

instead of the wave

[inland ice]

no he means the wave

[summer prairie]

it would be strange if it had some cleave limit, it uses math.huge for cleave which is a Big Number

yeah there's no limit

[weary idol]

truly a practical in game scenario

[summer prairie]

unless he means 70 maulers in a row and taking into account the space they normally occupy

but that wouldn't have anything to do with cleave

[thorn cedar]

idk i took it to mean that there was a 'cleave number' but as he said its never going to cap out in an actual live environment so it doesnt matter

so whether its actually infinite or not, who cares

either way the bulk of the damage happens in the first like, 12m or so

damage fall off will be negating output way sooner than a cleave number would

[jovial juniper]

[thorn cedar]

man i love the bigslice

still wish the one unique blessing on it wasnt totally shite

[upper sun]

start game
infinite load screen

🚬

[fathom adder]

Communicating with Fatshark Rearend

[long wharf]

what's meta for fgs setup?

[analog agate]

Carapace + unyielding. I don’t think there is a definitive meta for blessings. Riposte/unstable/wrath/precog can all fit in the playstyle

[long wharf]

ok, thanks

[prime elk]

wrath + shred is comfy as hell

[analog agate]

Wrath is used more for left side tree or havocs. I personally don’t use it on right side when running warp splitter

[long wharf]

I'm currently using the mk8 with wrath and unstable power

[analog agate]

Oh yeah. Shred too

Haha. Honestly, fgs has a lot of good blessing

[long wharf]

so, is the "empowered" effect just for the special attack?

maybe that's what I've been doing wrong

[prime elk]

i find that my peril keeps dropping off too quickly

so i've just gone back to using wrath

[analog agate]

Yeah, empowering just is for the slash ranged special

It can stagger even if doing no dmg though

[long wharf]

and mk6 is more for single target while mk8 is better for general/crowds, right?

[prime elk]

kinda

[analog agate]

Generally

[prime elk]

mk8 has better horde clear

but also better anti-ogryn

[long wharf]

mk6 has better heavy damage

[analog agate]

But they can both do it all. There really isn’t a difference between what you vibe with

[long wharf]

so why not unstable power?

[prime elk]

unstable power is totally fine

[plucky flax]

I played maelstrom earlier with mk6 shred riposte and horde clear was fine.

Just spam assails more Xd

[prime elk]

i like taking a crit blessing for EE synergy though

[long wharf]

that's fair

[prime elk]

too much work, esp if i'm getting gangbanged by the entire moebian 21st

[plucky flax]

Huh how? It's fast swap

[long wharf]

so, blazing spirit+shred, got it

[plucky flax]

And with assails you can keep your peril high for warp splitting easily.

[prime elk]

huh? that's still opening up time for you to get hit lol

[plucky flax]

Guess I am built different.

[analog agate]

Not if you swap fast enough 🙃

[long wharf]

is grim corrupt resist still broken?

I'm going to farm grim collection for the stupid penance and event

[thorn cedar]

it works but it's shit

[long wharf]

does the normal corrupt res work?

[thorn cedar]

yea

and works on all corruption so its just plain better

[long wharf]

gotcha, thanks

[long wharf]

okay, I was definitely using the FGS wrong

fully charged at high peril special projectile slaps

I wish it had more base cleave

[strange nova]

they patch the puncture force gs exploit yet?

[analog agate]

No

[strange nova]

pog

just need to have the pistol out when the slash is going whoosh, right?

[deft stump]

Yes, why it's harder on controller, lul.

[strange nova]

nah man i keep switch too soon lol

mid anim, so theres no projectile

gotta wait for the projectile

[deft stump]

Is basically the same with assail.

[copper jay]

What are you feelings about this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO4cmdPM6rY

[jovial juniper]

I don't watch Mr E

But smite is indeed a powerful tool

[long wharf]

the quick answer to that question is : No, no it's not.

[icy flower]

I find smite mind-nimbingly boring to use, but if any of my team mates wants to - they are welcome to. I won't argue.

[rugged cairn]

Is this the right place to get build help too?

[jovial juniper]

It is boring

[crystal cobalt]

technically there's a thread for builds but asking here will get results quicker

[jovial juniper]

But you either turn the game off or turn the game off

[thorn cedar]

how is that video an hour long

[jovial juniper]

Idk gotta get them revenue or something

[crystal cobalt]

my vague understanding of youtube says hour long videos are bad for revenue

10-15 minutes is the sweet spot iirc

[thorn cedar]

it depends on your retention

if youre putting out 1hr videos but almost all your viewers click off at three minutes then it'll hurt you long term

but if they are watching the entire thing then it's a benefit

you can get those stats pretty easily which leads me to the disgusting conclusion that people really do watch an hour of this nonsensical rambling

[rugged cairn]

Is there a psyker build for mainly staff use with the electric one or the flame one and the new greatsword?

[buoyant maple]

U should stop watching YouTube for Darktide informational content

[sturdy reef]

that Mister E is a schmuck

its all clickbait shite

the most informational smite video isn't even made by any of the tide tubers

its a user in this discord lol

[thorn cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1xC1bzDJs
this disgusting human being

[analog agate]

My build for EK staff with fgs

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message this message has a few builds for different staves too

[late sapphire]

hate this guy

[late sapphire]

he makes slop tier bait

or maybe bait tier slop

[copper jay]

Ok sorry !

[marble crater]

[copper jay]

I only wanted your inputs, maybe there was an update ? I didnt want to upset you 😭

[weary idol]

smite is kinda fun

[sturdy reef]

nah not upset

just dont fall for the trap

[patent mango]

slop!! slop!!!!!

[sturdy reef]

all smite h40 my beloved

[raven mountain]

I've been running a funny build where all I do is spam it, charge or no charge. The empowered attack is kinda like the Illisi when you hit with the sword. Not that damage is everything, but it consistently does the most in groups (as expected of a psyker, lol)

Just max warp res, warp charges+shriek, and Empyric Resolve.

[weary idol]

it triggers the bleed on hit from the bolt pistol blessing

[raven mountain]

I'll have to check and see how much bleed I did in matches.

[analog agate]

What enemy does quick swap smite stun that quick swap assail doesn’t?

[weary idol]

maulers

[thorn cedar]

takes a couple extra hundred milliseconds for maulers to stun, same with ragers.

[raven mountain]

Yeah, I'm definitely not abusing the puncture warpslash combo. I don't have a match with over 20k bleed that I can see.

[thorn cedar]

assail is theoretically just as fast, but it's also less reliable because sometimes your assail shard decides to take a detour through a school zone to see a flock of ducks at the pond before coming back around and hitting the trapper you needed to stun two seconds ago who has now netted you

[sturdy reef]

quick swap smite is more consistent in my experience

I run it on my meleeker build for that reason

[raven mountain]

Yeah, most of the time when I throw an assail, I have time to swap to gun, aim, and fire before the assail shard hits for the kill.

[weary idol]

at least assail does kill things which smite is not going to without EP

malefic momentum VALUE

[analog agate]

I remember testing it a few months ago and I ended up preferring quick swap assail to smite. Even for stunning. Obviously the good thing about smite is pathing psyk aura

[fathom adder]

"Assail follows your crosshair!"
Me, pointing my crosshair directly at the thing I want assail to hit:

[raven mountain]

I almost never bring smite because I value assail for horde and special duty, and bb kf for lazy free damage.

Most builds where I'd want MM appreciate having assail backup.

[fathom adder]

Also this, Smite is the only way to get Malefic Momentum and Psykinetic Aura in the same build

[young cliff]

How is one supposed to do the private mission for the "Malleus Monstronum" penance?

[late sapphire]

Go into a private match

Either bring some friends, invite randos in the morningstar and beg or just ask here or in the appropriate lfg channel

[patent mango]

get an ogryn to shield for you lol

[late sapphire]

tauntgryn makes it trivial even if you suck yeah

[pliant sage]

I'mma be so mad.

I have been like constantly trying to get powered up and thought itwas bigged

I was using empowered

not warp charges

[weary idol]

private match, brain burst spam build

double shield and blue stim since they all stack to make brain burst faster

you can easily chunk a boss for 50% of its health even in normal gameplay

[icy flower]

hardest part in this is bringing in friends for a private match...

I finished all psyker penances like 3 months ago, this one is the only left lol

[crystal cobalt]

happens

pretty sure I did the exact same thing because I was trying to get the Telekine penance at the same time

so my large wrinkly brain said "swap to warp siphon for more shields"

completely forgetting I was also doing the empowered penance

[young cliff]

TRULY an ogryn logic moment

[copper jay]

Why using voidblast (or other staff) instead of Inferno ?

[weary idol]

fun, and range

inferno also sucks into armor and bulwarks

[patent jacinth]

Because they deal actual armor damage

[analog agate]

Voidblast is hands down better. Can output the same dmg (blaze build) and be more safe than inferno as well.

The positive for inferno is: Better boss dmg than VB. Much easier to use than VB so it takes experience to get the most out of VB.

[long wharf]

I wish the names of the staves hadn't been changed

[deft stump]

Ping @upper sun for help. Ezy.

[crystal cobalt]

summon the Blahaj

[raven mountain]

I'm going to have to tweak my peril reduction due to the slower cast speed with the qq swap, but that's stupid.

Felt like playing vermintide again with all the qq swapping. xD

[pliant sage]

Man some of these psyker penaces

I gotta use the bad aura??? and get like a bajillion kills with it??

[raven mountain]

What, BB?

[pliant sage]

the like bonus dmg against elites

[deft stump]

Naw, the 7% elite damage.

Or something.

[raven mountain]

Oooo. I mean, you just use it instead for awhile

[pliant sage]

doing that yeah

[raven mountain]

Like, 10% cdr is nice, but you won't always feel it

[pliant sage]

• increased aura size

[deft stump]

It can't be done in like 1 run, so expect to spend a few days grinding it.

[pliant sage]

so its easier to get it

[raven mountain]

And it doesn't even require you to change your playstyle, weapons, or blitzes.

[deft stump]

And this assumes your team even sticks close to add to the counter.

[raven mountain]

Well, for what it's worth, most psyker builds absolutely shit on elites.

[deft stump]

Or you kill everything yourself.

[raven mountain]

So you're likely to provide for yourself as much as the team will.

[deft stump]

It's just a really high number of kills Expect at least 22-25 runs~

[young cliff]

isnt that considered heretical powers?

[deft stump]

Probs less if Aurics, maybe.

[deft stump]

Eh?

[young cliff]

just a joke, using summoning dark arts

[weary idol]

auric hi shock gauntlet spawns a LOT of elites

you can probably get it done in 8 games if your teammates aren't all neurotics that hate coherency

[pliant sage]

I specifically use the larger aunrea perk so I am more likely to snag kills for the penance

cause it counts me and allies

okay for warp charges

what are the better perk addons

Inner tranq vs harvest

and

In fire reborn vs vampire

[marble crater]

Neither for the first and in fire reborn for inferno and blaze voidblast and vampire for the others

[deft stump]

I'm assuming you get the worst possible team.

[raven mountain]

I almost always go right-left because I run soulblaze all the time.

But right-right is a pretty generically good.

[deft stump]

But summoning isn't dark?

[raven mountain]

and if you're short on points, you skip the top one and the +2 charges sometimes.

[pliant sage]

got it

[young cliff]

depend of the magic system you cosnider, but in warhammer it might be true

[raven mountain]

I've run left-right for funsies with empyric resolve, and it's fun to just not have peril gain, but I like the toughness gain on charges because you simply make them so fast and often.

[pliant sage]

oh I shouldn't get the 6 max stacks cause that makes it harder to use Power Up

[raven mountain]

Like in high havocs and aurics, you get to the 6 almost every time before your ability is off cooldown.

Simply because of mob density.

[thorn cedar]

outside of bubble and havocs its also surprisingly rare to hit six stacks before you cycle your ult into another use

[sturdy reef]

https://tenor.com/bGSeB.gif

[pliant sage]

well, I am trying to snag the penance

kill 100 specalists or elites with burst while at max stacks of warp charge

[raven mountain]

Grab Kinetic Flayer, too

Will probably snag a few extra that way

[pliant sage]

does that count towards it??

[sturdy reef]

yes

[pliant sage]

thats funny

[sturdy reef]

EP BB build is best for it tho

[raven mountain]

Not for the penance tho

[sturdy reef]

KF does, I did it like

last major patch

[pliant sage]

EP?

[sturdy reef]

empowered psionics

[raven mountain]

The middle keystone

[deft stump]

Also, if you haven't gotten the BB kills thing, there's a chance if the KF strike kills, that also fulfills a penance slowly.

[pliant sage]

oooo yeah

but yeah, I need warp charges, not empowered RN

[deft stump]

Pifft. What, you want some weird beasties to show up instead?

[raven mountain]

But yeah, you got it right. 4 warp charges, and both BB nodes.

[pliant sage]

shouldn't be too hard to get then 🫡

[raven mountain]

Every elite/special kill also gives a warp charge, so it's not too bad to build up and maintain, as long as you don't use your active ability.

And if there's a penance for using the elite damage aura, that's a good time to use it too

Since you'll be BBing all the elites/specials anyhow

[young cliff]

You say that, but then some mad weezard summon a bunch of small fairies from the feywild with needle spears that can fly at near supersonic speed No one will be safe

[raven mountain]

Harder difficulties spawn more elites and specials, so go as high as you can. It'll make it go faster.

[pliant sage]

yeah doing that

[deft stump]

Perma invis trolls? You mean, how to annoy your DMs?

Or what's that 4 attack a turn summon at super low lvls to troll DM as well.

[young cliff]

now you are cooking

[copper jay]

For Havoc and higher dificulties, master the voidblast is more interesting than inferno ?

[deft stump]

They were also ludicrously tanky. There's also some kinda monkeys to annoy DM as well.

Just grapple to win.

[analog agate]

VB is inherently more interesting than inferno because you have to aim it, haha. Inferno you just sweep.

[late sapphire]

The most interesting thing inferno has going on is blaze away stack upkeep

[copper jay]

And voidblast is more to kill enemis at range but the weapon is good for horde clear ?

[late sapphire]

And also the fact you have to play half blind

Voidblast has a bit more range, significantly more stagger vs heavies and almost similar crowd clear

[deft stump]

Someone will pop in to tell you to mod.

[late sapphire]

Yeah i have the mod that makes it invis

[copper jay]

Interesting, maybe time to learn good habits. Do you have any guides how to use correctly the voidblast ?

[late sapphire]

Put the circle on feet

[copper jay]

Or a build or tips ?

[deft stump]

I'm too lazy to mod, and flamer blinds me anyway.

[copper jay]

If I rely too much with Inferno staff i'll become lazy and I dont think i'll progress

[late sapphire]

Idk progress is one thing

I feel just using the same staff n build all the time is boring

Broaden your horizons, mess around a bit and you will naturally get better

[copper jay]

Especially inferno

[late sapphire]

No specific builds on hand rn, haven't played in some time (been busy with uni)

Surely there's some in the psykhanium or in builds chat or one someone here can furnish

[deft stump]

Look, gambla double boom stick is always exciting. How many times are you going to crit and double boom in a row?

[late sapphire]

really it's just grab fire shriek and warp charges

[analog agate]

This is the blaze VB build some use

[late sapphire]

put the center of the blast on fat fellas and the blaze will take care of trash mobs - the damage falloff is strong, but it staggers well and inflicts flame in a huge radius

blessings are ofc soulblaze on crit & crit scaling with peril, dump warp resistance

[copper jay]

And what melee weapons do you recommand with VB ?

[raven mountain]

I tend to prefer rending+charge speed for better control

[patent mango]

epic 5% crit node

[late sapphire]

looks good. this is 29 points isn't it? kd is totally worth it

ds4 my beloved

[late sapphire]

objectively sub-meta

[strong gulch]

There is a niche voidblast build that is actually a melee build and has voidblast for just in case moments or for stetting up harder targets for stabbing with staff CC.

[raven mountain]

Plus the blaze only stacks to 6, so it feels bad.

[late sapphire]

best crowd control effect is 'death'

[raven mountain]

And honestly, I've been told both are sub meta.

[analog agate]

It is 30/30. you can choose KD over flayer

[strong gulch]

Voidblast isn't the main focus and less relied on.

[raven mountain]

multiple times over multiple months from different people

[strong gulch]

Or drop warp battery.

[analog agate]

There are definitely some options if you find yourself needing KD

[late sapphire]

soulblaze voidblast outperforms rending voidblast easily due to how voidblast adms are

[rugged cairn]

I settled on voidstrike staff and same build as diabolic showed, except of the branch off to right before the purple thingies, I put it in lightning speed and souldrinker

[late sapphire]

you should try out a right hand side voidstrike build

scriers gaze voidstrike absolutely rocks

[sturdy reef]

KD is great for taxe psyker

I dont find much use of it outside that unless I am running deflector and H40

[late sapphire]

its a shame taxe is shitty ds

[sturdy reef]

even in H40 I dont always take it, depends on map

I like Taxe better

[deft stump]

You like gambling? You now gamble with with your life. No protection, just RAW.

[late sapphire]

That's fine

[sturdy reef]

I actually have to use more than 1% brain power

[late sapphire]

When i play dt i play it to relax

[strong gulch]

To be clear on what you're saying, you prefer pen flame and flurry on inferno but know that those are not meta? Or that you've been told that blazeaway is not meta?

[late sapphire]

So no h40, just auric mael

[sturdy reef]

I mostly do aurics

Im just doing havoks for the penances

[raven mountain]

No, rending/charge speed voidblast vs blaze/crit voidblast

[late sapphire]

voidblast i believe

[raven mountain]

Had both sides argued at me ad nauseum.

[late sapphire]

idk both suck voidstrike rulez

[strong gulch]

Oh ok.

[rugged cairn]

I mostly play heretic, since I dont have the best reflexes for clutch and I dont want to enrage myself over dying lots 🙃

[analog agate]

Who is saying blaze VB isn’t meta? Weird thing to say

[raven mountain]

Like, literally doesn't matter which I say I like, people argue the other at me.

It's dumb.

[late sapphire]

it's peak

i love arguing uselessly for no reason

[analog agate]

It has been meta for years at this point

[late sapphire]

Sometimes when i'm on the subway i will just start arguments with random people

Anyways, back to work i go

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1311009529894539324/unnamed.gif

[sturdy reef]

I tell people how underpowered Ogryn is on the bus

No Dodges! No Mobility!

[deft stump]

I mean, I argued with someone earlier on Mobility vs Damage dump on the Knoife.

[strong gulch]

IDK, but there was talk on SB doing damage to chaff that you're gonna blast anyways and thus doing inflated damage vs taking down armor faster.

I caught only a little bit of the convo.

[pliant sage]

yeah kinetic player went really easy

lord

yeah penance is going fast

low intes shock on malice, already 40 kills

[rugged cairn]

Yey, found the force GS I wanted, statwise

[analog agate]

Not sure how this pic doesn’t show that overall chip/dot dmg isn’t better than killing a crusher in one extra hit

[rugged cairn]

I cant share pics yet, but the dump stat on the FGS is WR, rest is 80%

[analog agate]

Yep

[strong gulch]

The biggest threat to a trauma user are shooters, especially if they are scattered. SB helps with that.

[strong gulch]

Keep typing and you'll get the red role. After that, you will be able to post pics and links.

[rugged cairn]

Ye, figured.

[raven mountain]

Lowest WR dump I've gotten is 31.

Could have pushed it a bit lower if I hadn't upgraded all the others to 80.

[strong gulch]

I've seen 18% WR with everything else 80. Uneeded but it's funny.

[rugged cairn]

Was this before the mastery thing?

[raven mountain]

Yeah, even 31 is plenty to get over 86 in two slashes

[strong gulch]

After the crafting update.

[raven mountain]

It's just a money sink. Buy them until you find one that has 60% WR max, but like 0 warp res

then you can upgrade it and stop upgrading it when the other stats are where you like.

[strong gulch]

https://youtu.be/af6kZ9b6PTE

[raven mountain]

My 31 hits 90% in two slashes, so it's perfect for quick-charging shriek and keeping peril as high as possible

I also run an 80 for warpslash spam instead, lol.

[fathom adder]

Voidblast (ground blast on secondary) has a limited range but is excellent for horde clear, if you're thinking of Voidstrike (direct projectile on secondary) it can kill hordes that line up for you but otherwise not great

[raven mountain]

Inferno and Voidblast occupy a lot of the same space in being horde clear with elite damage and lacking in long-ranged combat.

[fathom adder]

Inferno + Rending Voidblast is a great duo for truly obscene damage output while also CC'ing basically everything that comes near you, at the expense of needing other people to shoot distant targets

[raven mountain]

Lol, throwing pellets at reapers because no one else is doing the job feels so bad.

[strong gulch]

What do you mean. They put their arms up and go "Hey... STOP!"

is funny

[fathom adder]

Or one of the psykers having to stop pumping out the fire/blast so that he can brain burst that one sniper that no one will shoot

[strong gulch]

true

so true

[raven mountain]

Yeah, they really don't like fire

Can usually suppress them pretty quickly if they're close

[strong gulch]

Ye.

Me yelling at enemies to get closer to me when I can't charge slide them.

[late sapphire]

spitballs

[rugged cairn]

Yey, rolled lucky for a 60% WR inferno

Oh wow, I just had brain rapture proc, with kinetic flayer

That thing slaps

[copper jay]

So this is not really a switch for inferno ?

More like melee build with bolster secondary for zealot ?

[upper sun]

are they all 80 or 79.5? gotta make sure

[sturdy reef]

FS pls new update news

[upper sun]

fatshark pls buff ironhelm thammer carapace adm

[patent mango]

they''re gonna add slop shop to the game

[upper sun]

pls

[patent mango]

buy a bowl of slop

[sturdy reef]

buff taxe

[patent mango]

nerf taxe buff ds

[sturdy reef]

💀

[patent mango]

holy hell is that skeleton

[sturdy reef]

yeah its the zealot slop shop helmet

[patent mango]

slop

wheres the slop shop i wanna buy slop alcohol

and then hecking explode

[raven mountain]

Okay. I love the bleed warpslash build.

I love dots, so recongunker, soulblaze, and now bleed warpslash

[strong gulch]

Different playstyle. It's melee focused vs staff being the main weapon. More right side of the tree.

[copper jay]

And what are you thoughts about EK staff ?

Someone just told me to take this in game

[strong gulch]

It's my favorite one. It's a faster pace weapon that is the best at enabling PC, shirek, psych aura.

[copper jay]

Do you use it in havoc ?

[marble crater]

[analog agate]

On havoc 25 and lower I use it only. Above that I only use it if there is a bubble psyker cause EK works well with shriek

[strong gulch]

Only if I am not the only psyker

and that other psyker has bubble

[analog agate]

I played a 28 without a bubble or yellow toughness as an EK/shriek. never again. Too much stress

[pliant sage]

I assume for the like push people off penance

I should do the start of the void mission?

[raven mountain]

Okay. This bleed warpslash is actually wild.

I think it's my new second-choice build if there's a bubble/fire psyker.

[marble crater]

#psyker-class message all you need to know

[strong gulch]

I have a bistol FGS build but I have never remembered to try the exploit.

[sturdy reef]

doesnt feel natural to me most of the time so I avoid using it

[weary idol]

tbh Chasm Logistratum and Chasm Terminus are the best ones for it

they have multiple areas with tiny bridges that you can easily group up poxwalkers or smth on

[pliant sage]

ty

[weary idol]

and just venting shriek, fgs or voidblast off

[raven mountain]

I've been using bistol fgs for a couple of days, spamming warpslash, but I almost always just lmb then charged another slash.

The swapping is kinda a lot, but wow it does work.

500k bleed damage with almost 500k ranged. But I do run KF, so some of that ranged damage is inflated.

[upper sun]

i found an even easier solution for it

[marble crater]

What's that?

[upper sun]

mercantile start

compressing the vid rn

[weary idol]

it's a very funny meme build

if it was just bad it would not be funny

[copper jay]

I succeed my first havoc (lvl 1)

[marble crater]

[pliant sage]

got the powered up penance noww

sooooo

[copper jay]

So Now I go for lvl 16 Havoc

[pliant sage]

work on

kill elite or specalist in aurea pennance
bubble dmg pen
smite pen

will stick with warp charges for even more bubbles

[marble crater]

Good spot, I like the one in the video because it doesn't need any setting up to do

[upper sun]

i like this one because its at the start of the mission

[strong gulch]

I want to try for cliffhanger again. FS, give me the you did it pop up again.

[pliant sage]

just a little over 1k kills for the aura penance already

shrimple as that

[strong gulch]

shrimple

[pliant sage]

extra large aura helps too

also dump stat for inferno staff?

[strong gulch]

Warp resist

[pliant sage]

got it

[strong gulch]

Warp resist is the dump stat for all force weapons except voidSTRIKE. Voidstrike's dump is blast radius.

[pliant sage]

I see I see

me watching as brunts armory gives me all my voidstrike staffs with 80 blast radius

(I spent 200k to get one)

[strong gulch]

If you don't have a decent voidstrike and you're short on ordos, you can dump WR on it as well.

The better dump for that weapon is blast radius because it impacts heads shots.

[river locust]

What the best force greatsword blessing

[pliant sage]

I mean, I like Deflector

Deflector And Wrath are my go to

[strong gulch]

Wrath, riposte, shred, unstable power, deflector and some use precog.

[pliant sage]

Deflector has saved me and my allies so many times before

[strong gulch]

Take whatever fits your build and playstyle.

[copper jay]

You need to respect me now

[river locust]

So hich one does the most dmg to elites

The bosses

[strong gulch]

If you are still struggling with positioning and shooters, deflector is nice; if that is less of a problem then go for more offensive options.

Crits, increased finesse, and strength/ power will increase your single target damage.

[late sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

no updates

ever

[long wharf]

good enough?

starting at 10 is really low, not sure how much I'd have to spend to get lower

[strong gulch]

This should be fine. The main goal of low WR FGS is to be able to get the the peril needed in 2 specials for max SB stacks from shriek.

[vernal temple]

I have one that had 0 warp res, by the time I got all the other stats to 80, warp resist went up to 36

[strong gulch]

Just inspect the weapon and see how much peril it gens. Is build dependent tho.

[vernal temple]

[long wharf]

peril gen is 48% at warp res 35

[strong gulch]

I swear which stats get x points is weighted really weird.

Like yes I know the starting point varies, but why did damage get 1 point from empowering a single time while WR got 2?

[long wharf]

it's probably % based, with a max gain cap per empower

[vernal temple]

I'm Mr. Krabs of the warhammer universe

[long wharf]

the real issue that showcases is the absolute uselessness of Milkies now

[vernal temple]

yep

[long wharf]

we should be able to trade Milkies for Aquilas

[vernal temple]

melk bucks are obsolete

[sturdy reef]

[strong gulch]

They should put max rating curios in the melk shop.

[long wharf]

I think everything Sour Milk sells should be max stat values

[strong gulch]

but also let us chain buy grey curios

[prime elk]

melk crypto futures down 9000%

[prime elk]

that'd save the melk shop overnight

[vernal temple]

you said that and I just found a 17% toughness curio at Brunt's

[strong gulch]

discord manifests lmao

[abstract arch]

hiiii

[vernal temple]

get on my level of dockets

[strong gulch]

Just gamble harder and have 30 variations of each weapon.

[copper jay]

I hope Potato is proud of me.

[strong gulch]

Hello, I am proud. You can do it.

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-celebrate-cheering-gif-9886725585258222421

[copper jay]

Choose between Deimos FS and FGS is really hard

Both are insane

The poke headshot on the heavy2 Deimos is so fun

[tiny river]

FS is for single targets and FGD is more for crowds with its special, choose to what you prefer

[copper jay]

I think Deimos will be my beloved ...

[vernal temple]

is 25 million the hard cap or something?

[verbal thistle]

for all currency

besides melk bucks

500k melk

[strong gulch]

FGS is pretty good against single tho. It does both really well. That's why it's an allrounder.

[fringe garden]

Force Pushing an ogryn and then poking them in the face with the mk8 is about my favorite thing in the world

[restive slate]

Me returning DT player asking, how is GunPsyker in current meta?

[fringe garden]

Extremely viable

[strong gulch]

Good

[restive slate]

I see people talking about how broken Smite Psyker is now?

[fringe garden]

I mean, it does what smite does

Stuns stuff. Some people overuse it, some people use it just so. It's a little contentious in that if you spam it you can kind of ruin the fun for everyone. Not because you're killing everything, but because everything is just staring at you until they die, lol

[restive slate]

Also Holy crap, since when is Obscurus heavy1 so damaging??!

[fringe garden]

They've buffed obscurus a bit to make it a not-stupid choice

[strong gulch]

Gunker has some pretty good new nodes. Plus FGS (force great sword) can handle hordes and crushers. SG has a node that let's you cast at 100% peril. So you can ammo dump then assail your heart out. That node is called WU (warp unbound); it's a little buggy tho. It can make you explode because it doesn't kick in RIGHT away after SG ends.

[pliant sage]

only about 1,000 more specials/elites to kill, 50,000 damage to block and 300 more smited enemies to kill

😎

[fringe garden]

You'll find a good bit of people in the discord that dislike smite. But so long as you just use it tactically rather than as your primary weapon it's a great addition to any team

[copper jay]

Seems good to you ? Multiple build on gameslantern use these traits

[verbal thistle]

never trust gameslantern, even if the majority agrees on something

[pliant sage]

a lot of people here seem to hate anything that is a 'crutch'

[restive slate]

Ok did not know about that bug. Is the uhhh... Vraks? The fastest inf autogun still good or Recon is better?

[fringe garden]

Deflector is only worth it if you are purposefully making use of it in matches

[verbal thistle]

gameslantern is known to have probably the most outdated and misinformation on darktide

[fringe garden]

If you end up only blocking 12 times then it's a wasted blessing

[pliant sage]

woah buddy, are you using
Smite
Bubble
Chorus
Shroud
Infil
VoC

Erm, thats a crutch actually, you [insert some way of calling you a noob or bad at the game]

[fringe garden]

lol exactly

[strong gulch]

Dump warp resistance instead of mobility. That's mostly fine otherwise.

I personally prefer unyielding and cara and use this deimos with inferno in havocs.

[tiny river]

person calling you bad uses atleast 1 of those things themselves but claims its not a crutch if they do it

[copper jay]

What combo do you use against boss with Deimos ? Special attack ?

[pliant sage]

are you using any talents? and non white guns? and curios?? you gotta get off that crutch

[fringe garden]

Deimos special attack is a trap in pretty much all situations

Unless its versus a single elite enemy and there are no other threats nearby, then you can do it for fun

[restive slate]

Iirc Deimos is POKE HEAVY BLOCK POKE HEAVY POKE BLOCK

[strong gulch]

OMG. So many name changes.

Vraks 5 is old colomnus. Recon 12 is the faster one. Both are good. If you want faster monster damage go Vraks 5; if you want better ammo economy and aiming go Recon. Heavy laspistol is good too.

[tiny river]

Bro I had a guy tell me (he was playing psyker and it was normal damnation) “can you switch off Fire Team and take Survivalist?”

I said no cause it messes with my build structure and I had a penance with this one, I asked him why he thought that and he said “oh [youtuber] said it was bad” I swear to god people needa stop listening to the loudest voices on Darktide 😭

[fringe garden]

Youtuber quality varies from game to game so much, I always felt like the less popular a game is overall, the less you should trust youtube

[strong gulch]

Just heavies. Deimos largely ignores the special.

The H2 on the deimos is where most of it's damage is. If you want more single DPS, do the L1 H2 loop.

For faster stabs, you can do L1 then cancel with a block or quell for super fast L1 stabs.

There is a use case for using the special, if it's safe to do so, on and enemy head to get uncanny stacks really quickly because the special is a bunch of hits, not just one. Most of the damage of the special happens at the end of the animation, so if you dodge out of it you forego the damage.

[copper jay]

Thanks !

I tried the L1 cancel combo

Insane

[strong gulch]

Assume damnation and not high havocs, if you have maniac on your deimos, you can one shot muties with a H2 to the head.

I do me one shot. Not must be max stacks and x buffs up or do 90% of the health.

That may or may not matter to you for regular and auric T5s.

[thorn cedar]

even if it doesnt kill them they'll still be stopped by it

[copper jay]

Yes I like this so much

[restive slate]

Deimos H2 stagger is nuts

[thorn cedar]

i think its the only non-special standard attack that can stop a mutie

[copper jay]

FGS will get a nerf next patch, no ? This weapon seems so busted

[thorn cedar]

oh wait

plasma gun headshots

[patent mango]

no its like A tier

[restive slate]

Also I just found out you can hit Bulwarks on their toes, right hand and tippy top of their heads

[copper jay]

Really ? What weapons are S tier then ?

[restive slate]

DS4

[patent mango]

ds and knoif

[copper jay]

I mean the FGS seems so fast compared to others 2h weapons

[patent mango]

cause mobility is busted lmao

[lethal plover]

(I have not played in a year) is soulblaze still bad or has it been buffed? .... how does an old player review the meta changes?

[copper jay]

Oh yes DS

[patent mango]

buff fgs fatshark make charged strike good 🙏

[strong gulch]

SB has been good forever.

[restive slate]

Only buff for FGS I want is not consume its special charge if interrupted

[inland ice]

ts pmo

[strong gulch]

better dodges pls. 😭

[strong gulch]

If you got specific question people will answer.

[lethal plover]

psyker skill tree seems to have been changed and my builds are invalid
what exactly changed?

[strong gulch]

Blazeaway is on inferno (purg) for some reason. It's so much extra damage for doing nothing differently.

[patent mango]

like 10 new talents lol

half are slop

[copper jay]

SB ?

[patent mango]

super bario world

[strong gulch]

SB = soulblaze

[patent mango]

found a dripped out ogryn

[pliant sage]

UH OH

[patent mango]

slop blast

[strong gulch]

vomit simulator

[pliant sage]

The sludge factory

[proper osprey]

@deft stump am I beside you in the morning star?

Or is this another person?

[deft stump]

Another. I'm not playing RN.

To be fair, this is an actual name so I expect someone to basically use it anyway.

[upper galleon]

no nerfs only buffs now

community has decided

[patent mango]

lmao

[patent mango]

idek if fgs is in the top 5 strongest weps though

[strong gulch]

I swear that spot always has a sneeky stealth crusher there.

[patent mango]

teh distraction poxburster is fricked up

[prime elk]

oof. i started turning on crushers in spidey senses because of this shit

[patent mango]

lmao

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-laugh-lol-funny-as-gif-24228323

i cannot speak

[strong gulch]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxs7rXAu3FG94swrWJ_ilRFNnJjnWgzOM4?si=rCBpSG4YxMSdgL1P

[prime elk]

wat.

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-fortnite-mymomiskindahomeless-cringe-gif-7944978134360840147

[prime elk]

if you got something to say, use english. i don't speak zoomer

[strong gulch]

No

send ferrets

[upper galleon]

but i can't say it

[prime elk]

coward

[upper galleon]

Witch

[prime elk]

says the freak

[upper galleon]

what do you mean by that

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-22733242

[patent mango]

dude i think an ogryn nuke just dced me

LOL

[upper galleon]

nuke too big

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[patent mango]

dude

[young falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-crashing-computer-baseball-gif-25838534

[charred cipher]

is the heavy force sword better than the normal one? ive always loved the normal one not a fan of slow melee but seen ssome havoc stuff with it

[patent mango]

once you use gs you cna never go back...

[upper galleon]

not 1 to 1 comparable

[deft stump]

Pifft. I went back to my Illisi for normal games.

[upper galleon]

regular forceswords have better dodges, access to the uncanny strike blessing. and will be attacking faster. Illisi can also be spamming it's special at full effectiveness 24/7

FGS is going to be more range, more per hit damage, and the ability is a room clearer when fully charged. FGS is probably better but not in a way that makes regular forceswords irrelevant imo

[patent mango]

which one is illisi again....

i want a smol ilisi rework

just like an overhead at least

[strong gulch]

Ye. Kinda like instant pot being able to do everything really well but not better than dedicated appliances for 1 particular thing.

[deft stump]

Horde clear.

[strong gulch]

obscurus

[patent mango]

obscurus moveset is so silly

decent amount of attacks its just

like the emperors silliest silly

mayb they were figuring out movesets back then

[prime elk]

old design definitely plagues some weapons in the game

[jovial juniper]

A stab after push attack

[patent mango]

help!!!!!! help!!!!!!!!!

[copper jay]

So buff the enemies too ?

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-u-screaming-in-the-hotel-room-tpab-tpab-poem-to-pimp-a-butterfly-gif-4005569222539385807

Must power creep game

Must review bomb any nerfs

[copper jay]

Wtf happened

[upper galleon]

Havoc crusher

All melee enemies deal additional corruption damage and crushers, go from insta downing to insta killing

[strong gulch]

Yip

And it's a know issue with crushers being silent af.

So sneeky crusher overhead bans you to timeout.

[patent mango]

died of uhh uhh

[strong gulch]

H40 (havoc 40)

[patent mango]

at least it wasnt silent

[prime elk]

another good reason to put crusher in spidey sense

[strong gulch]

double dead tho lol

[patent mango]

tbh im moving nuke to F tier it can dc me

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-dance-gif-20625579

[prime elk]

i'm going to start taking nothing but nuke to dc people

[strong gulch]

[patent mango]

lmaoo

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/fifth-element-milla-jovovich-leeloo-bada-boom-boom-gif-9053853716468720447

[patent mango]

new meta

[prime elk]

annoying smyker in your game? just drop a nuke and dc him

[strong gulch]

@nocturne dust It's still funny. #psyker-class message

[copper jay]

What is your melee weapon ?

[patent mango]

thats illisi

[deft stump]

So, bring 3x corruption resist.

[copper jay]

Illisi is used in Havoc 40 ?

[patent mango]

idk

[strong gulch]

That was illisi with EK/ Surge staff and shriek. Surge is old name of the EK staff. I don't mean the blessing.

[strong gulch]

In general no.

I was 3rd Psyker.

[upper galleon]

I simply look around like it’s a 4 way intersection and I’m a small child in a world of silent EVs

[prime elk]

dat's deep

[deft stump]

That's overcompensating for 300 ping.

[river locust]

Drip check

[strong gulch]

Grey name. Probably trying to post a pic and can't yet.

[wooden sand]

Yeah I noticed that

If you will post drip post on #darktide-driptide

Or, at least want

[strong gulch]

Didn't even notice that was a board.

[wooden sand]

Its very far from the common lands we talk

Thats why

[deft stump]

Wat far?

[wooden sand]

Far

From this

Chat

Theses chats

Do I need to explain everything for you simpleton?

[deft stump]

Oh right, you are a rat, something that's a step away is like a ocean away or summthing.

[wooden sand]

This, is the class room

Close to the hub

And the drip store is on manufsctiring-thing

Its very far

[deft stump]

I have everything open and it's still visible on mobile Discord lmao.

[wooden sand]

Whats a mobile?

And "Discord"?

[deft stump]

.-.

[wooden sand]

I am using a magic ball to talk on this magic place

I stole it from a guy that kept talking about Sigmar

[lethal plover]

deflector prevents enemy from shooting you in the back right?

[thorn cedar]

only in a cone in front of you

[pliant sage]

Another 110k trying to get a voidstrike force staff with 60 BR please!

(every single one had max blast radius)

[pliant sage]

feels weird that psyker is the one one with a penance only completable in a private party

[verbal thistle]

zealot has flesh wound

[pliant sage]

huh, didn't even know that was a private match one only too???

there are just some penances no matter how hard I try, I can just never get

Shocking Stuff on Zealot
Long Bomb and Overwatch on Vet

[ornate hamlet]

hi. im new

[prime elk]

hi new, nice to meet you

[ornate hamlet]

nice to meet you llol

i just started today

[pliant sage]

Is the laspistol good for gun psyker?

high crit chance based with assail?

[prime elk]

it's good