psyker-class

[young falcon]

Cadians when you mention Cadia

https://tenor.com/view/mass-effect-repete-commander-shepard-shepard-you-what-gif-13879410

[cosmic sigil]

Maybe it has changed but I was so glad to change that voice...

[buoyant maple]

nah u just gotta tag enemies often

it breaks up the conversation flow

[cosmic sigil]

Like playing focus target

[buoyant maple]

nah just normal tag also works

[native cedar]

Alright, got a clean melee inventory now

lvl 32 do be like that

[hexed geyser]

Its not even a bad idea

[buoyant maple]

pro: he won't scream cadia all the time
con: he will barely have bonding conversations

[copper jay]

Why they didnt lke ?

[autumn lark]

loner is so grating to listen to

[icy flower]

Actually can you check yor set voice without losing money?

50k ain't much, but I am a poor noob, so..

[crystal cobalt]

nope, only through the personality scourge

[hexed geyser]

Probably some youtube videos with some descriptions

[worthy wasp]

Theres one thing that really bugs me about zealot.

Like, I feel Vet and Psyker are by far and away the best designed classes.

[jovial juniper]

Did I stutter 🗣️

[icy flower]

I am not entirely sure

But vet does look very well designed, aside from active abilities

[hexed geyser]

Vet is 100% vanilla, psyker is paper thin, zealot is op and ogryn needs more weapons

[icy flower]

But he seems to be very versatile

[jovial juniper]

Speaking of voices I should rewatch that video with DT voice actors compilation

[icy flower]

Psyker I think passives and blitz is where devs have dropped the ball, especially blitz

Those feel bad to use most of the time

[prime elk]

Nah psyker is the op one lol

[worthy wasp]

Vet and Psyker can seemlessly utilize all parts of their kits... Psyker is only limited by Peril and Vet has methods of sustaining their grenade usage while switching between melee and range based on the situation.

I'm not even talking about how strong the classes are

[icy flower]

I just feel like middle psyker tree is not very cohesive. Blitz focused, but has also some stuff absolutely out of left field

And right tree feels way more gun skewed over melee

[hexed geyser]

Zealot is by far the strongest class, just watch good players, everyone who's running solo does it with zealot for a reason

[worthy wasp]

The only special Zealot can sustain is tknives. If you go with nades you're very limited in usage

[prime elk]

Lol nah

Good players solo with any class

But psyker is the strongest overall atm

Esp in havox

[hexed geyser]

Its way harder to solo as ogryn or psyker than vet and zealot

[prime elk]

Ogryn I'd agree. Not psyker though

[worthy wasp]

P much all zealots use variations of the same exact tree due to flaws in design.

Zealot is incredibly powerful, but the class design/balance is very off

[worthy wasp]

You just sound like a bad psyker

[prime elk]

Oof

[hexed geyser]

No need to be rude lmao

But surviving on zealot is easier than psyker

[prime elk]

Ok yeah that sounds like bad psyker issues

[worthy wasp]

Whether or not thats true is irrelevant, I'm ignoring class strength

[analog agate]

What do you mean by “strongest”?

[worthy wasp]

In terms of design, the only special Zealot can self-sustain is tknives

[buoyant maple]

Psyker is harder to solo than veteran & zealot
But psyker is way stronger in team context

[analog agate]

⬆️

[worthy wasp]

Whereas Vet and Psyker have significantly more freedom in their kits

[hexed geyser]

And psyker is more fun. And it probably as more aoe damage but when the game goes wrong its rarely a psyker clutching alone. Either everyone survives or dies

[prime elk]

I think solo capabilities is a dumb measurement of class strength to begin with

[hexed geyser]

4 smites psykers are indeed strong and safe

[buoyant maple]

Well, that’s what he brought up and he’s not wrong in saying that zealot is easier to play solo

[analog agate]

Clutching definitely is a factor. But no “soloing”

[hexed geyser]

Doesnt mean i would want to play that

[worthy wasp]

Theres significantly more freedom and cohesiveness in the builds Vets and Psykers can throw together than there is for Zealots

Is my issue

[prime elk]

And I think the fundamental premise of his argument is flawed lol

[worthy wasp]

This is what I'm discussing

[prime elk]

So I'm not even going to talk about it

[analog agate]

In regular gameplay Psyker will best out zealot 🤷‍♂️

[autumn lark]

solo with movement speed psyker😌

[icy flower]

Yeah, power and design aren't the same. It is more about how well abilities interact.

[hexed geyser]

I started that as a quick joke, obviously my argument was flawed

[worthy wasp]

I'd like to see Zealot have methods of sustaining nade usage

[icy flower]

Even if i look at zealot, i think melee and knives work well

But feels like tgere is no support for nades and flamer

No gameplay loop

[worthy wasp]

No support at all for nades

[icy flower]

You just spend them and that's it

[worthy wasp]

And thats my core issue

[icy flower]

Like if flame damage would refund nades, while nade damage would buff flamer and maybe refund ability cd, then we'd talk

[worthy wasp]

Tknives are self sustaining and hit key BPs on their own so long you can headshot so they don't need support

The other options are in dire need of support

[analog agate]

I don’t think zealot needs any kind of nade regen. Vet gets it. Psyker doesn’t need it. That just leaves zealot and ogryn who use pick ups. And ogryn usually has nuke in case of oh shit moments

[buoyant maple]

That would be insanely strong

[worthy wasp]

Hence in large part why all zealots at the top end run variations of the same exact build

[icy flower]

It is just an example. All I am saying there is no interactions for some of his toolkit

[worthy wasp]

Flamer has synergy with tknives

[icy flower]

If you mean animation cancel

It is not even intended mechanic

Just tech

I wouldn't count bugs as part of intentional design

[worthy wasp]

Tknives gives you the ability to snipe from range while using flamer for clear.

Its similar to how flamer psykers run bb to snipe specials

[icy flower]

It's more like just a setup variation tbh

[buoyant maple]

second wind is too strong
throwing knives are too strong
scourge is too strong
enduring faith is too strong
the other 2 branches don't have talents nearly as good to worth going down to blitz

[analog agate]

Is animation canceling knives to pull out weapons faster a bug? I am pretty sure it is intended

[icy flower]

It is tech, aka bugs that engance gameplay

[clear heath]

i think they need to not have a 4 point tax for choosing a grenade before we even talk about grenade balance

[icy flower]

I mean game already has animation cancel

[icy yarrow]

Question: Does soulblaze from killing enemies stack with purg staff?

[analog agate]

Would love to see a quote from FS on that

[prime elk]

Ii don't think they're bugs

[worthy wasp]

Yeah, Zealot is very strong but poorly designed compared to Vet and Psyker

[prime elk]

At worst, happy little accidents

[autumn lark]

you can animation cancel bolter reload by bashing

[icy flower]

That is what tech means

[prime elk]

It's probably intentional that you can animation cancel with knife

Happy little accident that it synergizes with slow draw weapons

[icy flower]

A lot of tech is not some insane gamechanger in games, but just things that let you make combat better

[clear heath]

I dont even think fatshark knows if it was intentional at this point
I've seen inconsistency with what they consider bugs and actual game mechanics

[worthy wasp]

Its to the point where all zealots run the same build and the key difference from player to player is how effective they are at headshotting with tknives

[icy yarrow]

😄

Knife do high damage 😄

[analog agate]

The only one I know for sure they don’t like is lmb on staves. I haven’t seen quotes on anything else

[worthy wasp]

And have built in sustain

[cosmic sigil]

Like foft applying to range?

[young falcon]

I still think tknives are thematically odd for zealots

[worthy wasp]

If knives were limited in usage and had no method of generation then they wouldn't be nearly as good

[icy flower]

Maybe, i don't know this

[icy yarrow]

You have to kill things to get them back tho :3

Doesnt Vet have a Grenade regen talent or 3 of them @_@

[worthy wasp]

Yeah

[icy yarrow]

So idk why its a complaint that zealots have knives :3

If vets get a grenade every minute or so :3

[jovial juniper]

It used to downgrade armor types for melee and ranged
FS went and removed the armor downgrade, removed ranged interaction and gave 100% melee rending

[worthy wasp]

The issue isnt that knives are good, its that their other options are trash for a wide variety of reasons

[icy yarrow]

Flame grenades are good and stun grenades are great for revives :3

[icy flower]

That's why he has good design. Use guns, shoot heads to save ammo, switch to melee to buff ranged, switch to ranged to buff melee, regenerate grenades, etc. A lot of intentional design for his tools.

[loud girder]

knives are good and the skill tree branch before knives is literally much better than other 2 for all builds

[icy flower]

Kek

[young falcon]

Pathing to knives is too good to choose anything else

[worthy wasp]

No generation.

[icy yarrow]

They are utility options not pure damage :3

[autumn lark]

path through stuns and still path for second wind

[icy yarrow]

Pick up grenades around the map!?! there are plenty of them :3

Its not like they give you 1 grenade per item pick up :3

[loud girder]

also knives do fit "thematically" for the same class that can cloak and has multiple backstab based skills

[icy flower]

And also zealots look like they are century or two behind the rest

[worthy wasp]

If you divide a class into 3 parts... melee/gun/special...

Psykers and Vets can seemlessly utilize all 3 parts.

Zealot can only do so if they have tknives, otherwise they have a limited stock and are at the mercy of nade spawns

[young falcon]

Shroud

[worthy wasp]

That core issue needs solved

[prime elk]

Honestly I think the tknife economy is fine

I never run out

[worthy wasp]

Tknive isnt the issue

[prime elk]

And you get them back from ammo tins

[worthy wasp]

Its the other 2 that are the issue

[icy yarrow]

Zealots have sustainability through toughness regen talents :3 I quite litterally had someone the other day applaud me for how much sustainability I had while clearing hordes with my melee only build xD

[loud girder]

they have even better drip in concept arts and stuff where they straight up wear proper preacher ropes

[worthy wasp]

Thats not what I meant by sustain

[icy flower]

That would be dope, but judging by ingame cosmetics, engine doesn't handle long wear very well

[icy yarrow]

zealot nades are only utility based stun and horde clear

[icy flower]

Coats bloat into something strange

[prime elk]

Yeah not great. It's mainly the pathing that kills the other two for me

[icy flower]

Like you eat enemies instead

[worthy wasp]

There are far more hordes than there are nades.

Vets can use their tools freely. Psykers can use their tools freely. Its seemless.

[loud girder]

yeah the engine probably cant handle the big ropes
zealot has some good drip like the medieval armor and the one that makes u look like robocop lmao, i just dont vibe with like 50% of the way they design the rest

[icy flower]

Tbh I don't like any cosmetics, but I find space marine 2 designs stupid looking too, so maybe it's just not my aesthetic. I picked Darktide because I saw screens of architecture and loved it.

[icy yarrow]

Zealot is a melee class more than anything else! I can see why Vet has grenade regen as Its a gun or ranged based class that people insist on trying to play as a zealot tho...

[autumn lark]

right tree for zealot is based on a death cult operative so it fits

[icy flower]

And then turns out Darktide levels are just insanely well designed

[icy yarrow]

Its a completely different playstyle and it should stay that way :3

[loud girder]

40k enivorments are absolute peak true

[autumn lark]

the numerous melee talents on vet's right tree

[loud girder]

yeah the entire tree literally screams ASSASSIN

[young falcon]

Which personality is right side? I just associate Zealot with being loud as shit

[fiery stratus]

fanatic?

[clear heath]

probably none of them. The personalities were made before the entire tree existed

we didn't have shroudfield for year 1

[marble crater]

Whichever is the most cowardly, because right side has stealth

[young falcon]

So throwing tiny knives just doesn't feel extra enough for their personality I'd expect them to throw entire books

[jovial juniper]

Basically all zealots would stab you in a dark alley because they didn't vibe with your face
I'd say judge though

Because well
It's the judge

[icy flower]

Judge va is peak

[young falcon]

Guess that's on me for only playing fem fanatic

[jovial juniper]

Agitator is probably the loudest as the name suggests

Still kinda waiting for when FS locks in and give us a Propagandist/Agitator Necromunda skin

[young falcon]

Necromunda has some wild designs

[loud girder]

death cult designs are so freaky imagine if they add them for zealot 💀

[crystal cobalt]

Kibellah, my beloved 🙏

[loud girder]

i should play rogue trader

[crystal cobalt]

you will play Rogue Trader

this is not a request

[loud girder]

[crystal cobalt]

minor spoilers: || you can fix her, or you can make her worse ||

[icy flower]

Ok that's more up my style. Why Darktide doesn't have that

[crystal cobalt]

🤷

fifty more recolours

[icy flower]

Instead we got rags and tubes and rags and tubes and rags...

[loud girder]

darktide designs in general are kinda a bit too grounded for how comical the 40k art designs i see in concept arts

[young falcon]

No one wants to supply the prisoner murder hobos with drip

[loud girder]

both sound enticing

[young falcon]

Maybe we'd have better options if Brahms actually liked having the warband around or if Fatshark felt like it

[icy flower]

Yeah, well, I mean even store outfits look pretty terrible to me, so Fatshark is missing on some vbucks. Although default skins could use variety too.

[worthy wasp]

I am loving this setup

I run it with dclaw + surge staff

[marble crater]

warp expenditure spotted

[brazen rampart]

It's not like she has a choice. The warband is the only thing stopping Atoma from instantly falling to corruption overnight.

[patent mango]

who pringle

my epic yapping part 2

[deft stump]

Why worst tasting chip?

[marble crater]

In Germany Pringles can't call themselves chips, because they aren't chips

But I do love them anyway

[deft stump]

I mean, they are just faek, potato powder and stuff made into that.

[marble crater]

Still tasty

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/bOgPs.gif

[deft stump]

Even $1 actual potato chips is better.

[wooden sand]

Whats the point pf a Master Chief Pringles?

Do they put some salt from his feet or something?

[brazen rampart]

Master Beef flavored pringles.

[deft stump]

Adverts to gamers, what else.

[wooden sand]

Gamers can't even get up from their chair to go buy food

[thorn cedar]

my work from home roommate who only leaves her room to pick up an ubereats delivery twice or thrice a day still bought an automatic cat feeder ... for the cat she kept permanently locked up in her room

literally couldnt be fucked to get out of her chair to feed her own cat mere feet away

[deft stump]

That's just you. I clearly go out to get food, addiction and bring the doggo for a walk.

[wooden sand]

I was JOKING

Damn

[deft stump]

Ubereats? What. is she rich or something? I would save $8-$10 per meal just going down.

[thorn cedar]

idk i cant reply without stepping grossly into defamation

i'd like to say "well, she suffers from agoraphobia" or something that would make sense, but she does not

she has ordered food on uber from restaurants that are ... this is not an exagerration ... four houses down the street

[deft stump]

That's what I mean.

[thorn cedar]

but on the rare occasion friends of hers invite her to go out to the bar, she will be there noooooo problem

so it's really just being fucking stupid

[deft stump]

You pay $8-10 for delivery from a place that takes me 5 mins to walk to.

[thorn cedar]

and no she has been late on rent multiple times

thankfully our leases are not combined so that shit isnt my problem

[deft stump]

So, drinking is fine.

[thorn cedar]

oh, any social event with friends is fine. she totally has the capacity to leave the house/her room

honestly forget i said anything

thinking about her just makes me depressed

[late sphinx]

Depressed that you cant live like that, or depressed that she lives like that?

[deft stump]

I get it. Poor cat.

[thorn cedar]

Sobering that I used to, depressing that she does and she has nobody to hold her accountable.

When I was that pathetic I was living with my (still are) best friends who eventually gave me an intervention. She has nobody.

And yeah, that cat passed away a couple months ago now. Honestly, Charleston deserved better, but he's better dead than living like that.

[late sphinx]

I have former friends still in their 40's that still choose to live with their parents, refuse to get a job, and still badmouth their parents despite them housing them up until their 40's still, still no job yet, spends all days playing games and outwardly no jokingly says "I can just live off of my parents inheratance and live in their house when they pass."

She's far from the bottom to even be living in any sort of independance despite it

[thorn cedar]

Well, in her case, the bottom is fast approaching, presumably.

I'm only worried that I'm going to wake up to her wrists cut in the bathtub or some shit, mostly becaue that's going to be really annoying to deal with.

Her cat died like two or three weeks before Christmas. Her parents called her on Christmas to send her well wishes and ask how she and the cat were doing and she went fucking ballistic that they 'somehow didn't know' that her cat had died. The cat she didn't notify them about.

Then they asked if she still kept him in the room the whole time in a half-hearted attempt to probe what happened and she told them to never call her again lmao

The last couple times she fucked up on rent they were the ones that bailed her out. She just burned that last bridge. So we'll see.

[deft stump]

Just wow. I would kinda call animal abuse on that if the cat is still alive tbh.

[thorn cedar]

I've already voiced my disdain for her existance for more than a couple years now to my landlord.

Nah, Charleston died already. Kitty was 13.

[deft stump]

Mhm, still had a kinda hard life in a way.

[thorn cedar]

Well yeah. I don't disagree that I would call it animal abuse but the law does not.

Charleston used to live at her parent's house with two other cats. She brought her here to my apartment with my one other cat, refused to put any effort in helping me socialize them, and instead opted to just keep him locked in one room for the last three years of his life.

This is a now 30 y/o woman.

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/bu954.gif

[thorn cedar]

And frankly, I would not miss her in any circumstance which one might call a departure.

[late sphinx]

Are you younger or older than her Exploits?

[thorn cedar]

Four years older.

[late sphinx]

Alright

Sometimes when someone is acting so immature and they're above your age it can really drive home how angry you can feel to someones behaviour. When its someone younger you can often tank that feeling a bit more

[thorn cedar]

If I had economic means I'd be living somewhere else, but this is just the cost of affording a two bedroom apartment. You're gonna need a roommate, and sometimes that roommate is ... this!

I'm paying $600/m for a room with rent control in a city that normally charges 2.5x more for the same floor space and utilities and no rent control. Won't catch me leaving.

[deft stump]

We had to let the two gremlins socialize for ages to even come to the point of being able to care for them when lil sis goes on holiday, so I understand that. Good thing her dog doesn't mark.

[thorn cedar]

It would've been quite nice because Charleston was a VERY friendly idiot, but my Faye is a spoiled bitch who is too used to owning the entire space lmao

In hindsight I should've gotten two kittens when I adopted her, but, hindsight

[deft stump]

I get it. Sounds like those two except we made her learn to share, since she'll get more anyway.

[thorn cedar]

And now she remains spoiled and barely socialized with other cats cause that shit just never happened.

[deft stump]

Is also why she has a hard time with most other dogs... She never really got to go to dog parks and such. So us having to crash course that is a nightmare heh.

[thorn cedar]

It was pretty fucking annoying though. Like I really did try, and they were getting along pretty well after two weeks. But I asked her to clean up the messes he makes (he had a dumb habit of jumping into litterboxes and just kicking the FUCK out of the litter for no reason) and her answer to that was ... to just keep him locked up for good.

Genuinely wish her parents just took the cat back home with them on the couple occasions they visited but oh well.

[deft stump]

It might just be a way to destress or play.

[thorn cedar]

Oh yeah he's a dumb cat, he's not doing it to be totally malicious and evil. But it's also her cat and her mess to clean in our cooperative effort. But she put forward no effort at all so.

[deft stump]

No vaccum cleaners or that sort?

[thorn cedar]

????? of course we have cleaning supplies

she just doesnt use them lmao

[long wharf]

if you can afford it, there are automated litter boxes that contain the litter really well

[thorn cedar]

she has no fucking interest in doing anything

[deft stump]

Well, some people are too lazy to use brooms, lul.

[long wharf]

I have one for my cat

[thorn cedar]

her room is literally a computer, a bed, the litterbox and catfood from the cat who has now been dead for over two months, and a gigantic pile of ubereats delivery bags in a corner

[long wharf]

I refuse to have to manually scoop litter

[thorn cedar]

she does not clean

[long wharf]

that sounds incredibly unhealthy

and rather foul

[thorn cedar]

and if i do not keep the kitchen countertops at least slightly occupied with appliances, she will start stacking pizza boxes and shit there, too

and yes, she is

[deft stump]

Jesus, and I thought I was bad.

[thorn cedar]

i used to have a kitchen table but she would not keep fucking garbage off of it so i just threw it out

[deft stump]

I just have loads of random non-food items left around. Like all the charging cables, my old and broken headset and such.

[thorn cedar]

and then she asked me what i was going to do with the garbage that used to be there

and its like ????

its not my garbage

here, let me help solve this conondrum

as i started moving it all into her bedroom directly

(it's all STILL THERE, i know this because i had to help her when the cat died)

[long wharf]

sister or gf?

[thorn cedar]

some nobody roommate

[long wharf]

time to evict then

[thorn cedar]

that's up to the landlord

[long wharf]

then tell the landlord

[thorn cedar]

and you want to be real fucken sure before you pull that trigger

[long wharf]

photo and document it all

[deft stump]

Cos dook can go down bad.

[thorn cedar]

because telling some mentally unwell slothball of a human being that you are evicting them but also it wont actually happen for six months

[long wharf]

what you absolutely don't want to happen is for your landlord to blame you

[thorn cedar]

usually results in the absolute most extreme behaviour

[deft stump]

Some people go crazy when you do it.

[thorn cedar]

oh he doesnt, we are very much documented and involved here

[long wharf]

or you can move out

[deft stump]

He can't. it's like the cheapest place around.

[thorn cedar]

i lived here for three years before she did and there was never an issue. she moves in and suddenly there's a problem every three months or so

[long wharf]

yeah, roommates suck

[thorn cedar]

like my oven just ... stopped working a couple months ago, and i couldnt figure it out

[long wharf]

strangers be that way

[thorn cedar]

and then a couple weeks ago, its 4am and im awake

[deft stump]

Let me guess, unplugged?

[thorn cedar]

the oven is burning because it's on

it's been on since 5pm

the roommate is asleep

she turned on the fucking oven and went to sleep

i was not kind about this

[deft stump]

??? Who even does that? It's a fire hazard and damages the thing.

[thorn cedar]

if this all seems somewhat unbelievable of a human being, then allow me to fill in the missing piece

[long wharf]

she's clearly not mentally well

[thorn cedar]

it's alcoholism

and i know it cause im five years sober and i was not too different myself for a long while

[deft stump]

Oh. Well, that explains.

[long wharf]

explains but doesn't justify

[thorn cedar]

definitely does not justify

[deft stump]

Used the money saved from drinking to enrich the other parts of your life, I assume?

[thorn cedar]

so it's likely her lease will not be renewed come june

what? no, i just bought much better drugs

[long wharf]

at least there's that

[deft stump]

Oh.

[long wharf]

oof, not a good play

[thorn cedar]

AM JOKES

only nicotene dogs me still

[long wharf]

phew 🙂

[deft stump]

Well, that's how cig companies and such get you.

[thorn cedar]

ANYWAY

thanks for letting me vent i suppose

[deft stump]

To be fair, getting things out is good for mental health to a degree. (Also, cat tax.)

[long wharf]

oh, we get a cat tax?

[deft stump]

I'm poking for it, yes.

[long wharf]

what a cute chonker

[thorn cedar]

spoilt bitch

[deft stump]

Fat princess, seems like, heh.

[long wharf]

here's my Chloe:

[long wharf]

she has a bed on my desk between keyboard and monitor

[thorn cedar]

she even gets walks

[long wharf]

nice

[deft stump]

Some are just predisposed to getting chonky even with exercise, heh.

[marble crater]

There is no such thing as "too much" when it comes to spoiling pets

[deft stump]

Not afraid of and suddenly "jrguohprsyobhg udfeytvb8edwsfrtv867ewszy" being sent?

[long wharf]

she regularly takes Steam screenshots for me

her previous bed was just a pillow... and she'd constantly stretch and hit keys

[marble crater]

Good cat

[deft stump]

Quality. Perfect gaming partner. Screenies every single death that happens, I guess.

[long wharf]

but I love her being on my desk with me

[thorn cedar]

faye is too mischevious to trust with that

[long wharf]

the really weird thing is that she generates a lot of static charge... when she gets up, the static discharge will turn off my monitors briefly

worst in the winter, not so bad during the summer

[thorn cedar]

that's impressive

[long wharf]

yeah it is

[deft stump]

I assume low humidity and such.

[long wharf]

humidity directly affects static charge buildup, yes

[deft stump]

While that's near impossible here, lul.

[long wharf]

is "here" near the equator?

[deft stump]

Yes.

[long wharf]

gotcha

[deft stump]

It's hot and wet or hot and dry.

But by dry, it still means you suffer death from drowning in sweat.

[long wharf]

I lived in Arizona a while back

I know all about hot and dry

as well as the Dust Bowl in TX

[azure parcel]

This cat talk makes me terrible and miss my kitty

We were returning to our home country for a couple months and had booked tickets for us + cat, got an airline carrier, all the preparations

[long wharf]

one day you'll feel like it's the right time to adopt another

[azure parcel]

She's alive, I was forced to leave her in Toronto for a couple months

[long wharf]

oh ok, that's a much better scenario 🙂

[azure parcel]

Because like a fucking IDIOT I fucking FORGOT about immigration documentation

I thought the same docs that were needed going India to Canada would be sufficient for the other way around

Turns out no

I needed like 3 more docs that take fucking 2 months to obtain via govt channel

And I find this out 2 days before departure

[long wharf]

damn that sucks

[azure parcel]

So now I have my friend (who she is familiar with) visiting the house every 2 days to play, clean and feed her

[deft stump]

What a nightmare.

[azure parcel]

Because that's the least disruptive and least shit option for her

[azure parcel]

Tell me about it. I spent 3 days bawling my eyes out as a 34 yr old grown man

[deft stump]

At least you have someone she's okay with who cares enough to go check in.

[azure parcel]

Yeah I'm just praying she stays healthy and emotionally alright

Boarding her for that long is neither something I can afford and nor is it something she'll like, she's an anxious little muppet

[long wharf]

have you tried scheduling a video call with your cat?

I'm not kidding - it can do wonders for her

[azure parcel]

So far she's alright, eating normally and doing her play and zoomies

[long wharf]

do a Zoom or video Discord call, let your cat hear and see you

[deft stump]

Or just call friend on say, Whatsapp.

[long wharf]

yeah, however you make that call

[deft stump]

I heard, 1 day is like $50 and you don't know how okay the place be like.

I have heard awful stories.

[azure parcel]

Really?

Won't it freak her out?

[long wharf]

it shouldn't

[azure parcel]

Hearing us but not smelling us?

[long wharf]

it'll remind her you still exist

it doesn't sound like much, but trust me

as someone who spent significant time in the Army, and then a traveling consultant afterwards

it can definitely help with their mood, and yours

[azure parcel]

I guess i can try it next time my friend visits

[deft stump]

Pets might be confused, but still feel comforted in a way.

Unless they got used to it after some time.

[azure parcel]

Technically the house camera can enable it at any time but I'd rather do it when he's around so he can comfort her if she needs

[deft stump]

Yes, but isn't that one way?

[azure parcel]

No it's two way

[long wharf]

you want her to be able to see you as well

[azure parcel]

The biggest problem is the duration we're apart. Two months is a LONG TIME for a cat

[long wharf]

that's why you want to keep in regular contact

[azure parcel]

Yeah

[vernal blaze]

what goes on force greatsword

[deft stump]

Is like years.

[deft stump]

Blessings? Anything but Warp Slice and Burning Spirit.

[tiny oracle]

personally ive been running with unstable power/wrath and murderous tranquility

[vernal blaze]

i was gonna say both

[prime elk]

Riposte and Shred

[tiny oracle]

that combo would be nice, if the range attack from it actually applied burning spirit, but it doesnt

[vernal blaze]

flak maniac as always or does it need something else more

[prime elk]

Cara and unyielding is what you want

[vernal blaze]

that important for anything or does it just not really need anything else

[jovial juniper]

Precog Unstable

[tiny oracle]

i like murderous tranquility since it lets me spam power attacks without worrying about quelling as long as i hit 3 enemies per swing

can be dangerous though, if you get into the rythm and suddenly dont hit 3 enemies you blow yourself up

[hollow current]

my sibling

[prime elk]

You don't need flakiac so that's the next best option basically

[vernal blaze]

neat

[clear heath]

yeah it just doesn't really need anything

[nova locust]

I know this is the "spend less on candles" meme, but I'm not taking deflector off my force sword (I'm also using a force sword instead of a dueling sword). I dump Warp Resistance and have an Inferno Staff, what else should I put on my Deimos Sword?

[thorn cedar]

if you are running Mettle in your talent tree, then shred/riposte. otherwise, uncanny strike is universally good

[nocturne dust]

uncanny, flak, maniac

[agile laurel]

Is there a psyker build that could use Vigilant Autogun?

[nocturne dust]

Actually maybe carapace/unyielding if you're running Inferno

or carapace/maniac if you're too lazy for uncanny soulblaze shenanigans

[nocturne dust]

Would be the same as normal gunker, really

Something like this

[tiny oracle]

just out of curiosity, why do you take the last scriers talent on gunker?

[hollow current]

free damage basically

[nocturne dust]

... oh

Brain automatically putting in talents

Force of habit, you don't need warp unbound, lol

Unless you want assail shenanigans

[tiny oracle]

i see, didnt think it made sense since you mostly dont generate peril in scriers outside the passive generation

[nocturne dust]

I would put the extra point into assail regen

You could also do OwtW or the side Scrier nodes

but those side Scrier nodes icky

[ripe obsidian]

Auric is a silly place after so much Havoc

[brazen rampart]

???

Free 20% movement speed or tdr is "icky?"

[nocturne dust]

For a whole node when OwtW is right there?

[brazen rampart]

You know what else you took that you don't need? PC and quietude.

Could easily drop both and grab owtw and scriers tdr.

[nocturne dust]

PC sure, quietude tho is cool

[brazen rampart]

There isn't really a use for it.

[nocturne dust]

combos very well with the quell nodes Gunker takes

iirc

[brazen rampart]

If youre using it with crack of bone, you're getting toughness back from melee anyway. If you're using it with tranq through slaughter, you're getting toughness back from mettle anyway.

There's zero purpose in running quietude on gunker.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, by that logic you don't need soulstealer either

[prime elk]

Eh it's nice to have and easy to get

Don't see the issue

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, like, it's just more toughness 🤷‍♂️

[brazen rampart]

You want soulstealer for the loop of melee and assail.

[nocturne dust]

But mettle works with assail so therefore you don't need soulstealer /s

[brazen rampart]

Not taking soulstealer is shooting yourself in the foot for no reason.

[brazen rampart]

Assail does not have the fire rate nor the crit potential to abuse mettle properly.

[nocturne dust]

My point is that the purpose of quietude is more toughness, and there's nothing wrong with that

[weary idol]

on gun psyker

[nocturne dust]

The TDR you're advising for is the same thing

[weary idol]

the class whose entire motto is "don't get hit"

like yeah normally I'd say sure toughness regen is good and all

but gun psyker has the HP of a fly at the best of times

if you get hit it's probably going to kill you or take half your health regardless

and you get more than enough regen from Soulstealer and Mettle in practice

[nocturne dust]

you mean regen

[brazen rampart]

It absolutely is not the same thing and I'm not going to bother trying to explain to you why it's not.

[weary idol]

uh

yes

oops

[nocturne dust]

k.

[nocturne dust]

Fair, I don't disagree, but it's between TDR and regen.

[weary idol]

I run my gunker like this personally for reference

[nocturne dust]

TDR matters very little, especially in Havoc where the bar is disappearing either way from a single hit.

[weary idol]

surety of arms because I use shotgun

[thorn cedar]

ew, surety

i just cant accept that it'll jack up your perils and not even fucken give you the reload speed, yuck

[nocturne dust]

You're free to take the Scrier's TDR if you want, but imo it's not that great due to not being active during the lingering effect

[weary idol]

think of it this way, jacked perils=more cleave and damage

free

[thorn cedar]

scriers gaze already doin that tho, i dont need more sources of generation. personally anyway.

even a couple right click assails will do fine

[nocturne dust]

I think it makes more sense on a shotgun build but it's still kinda backwards with Scrier's.

[thorn cedar]

i just reeeeaaaally dislike it making you pay for reload speed that you dont even always get

[nocturne dust]

Yet you pay for a speed boost you don't always get, curious /s

[thorn cedar]

and if it's at the point where surety is cutting my scriers build up early then im pretty sure it's just cheating me out of damage too

[brazen rampart]

Surety is funny with double barrel.

[weary idol]

If I'm "reloading" during scriers with my shotgun it's the special

which doesn't generate peril from surety

[thorn cedar]

but no reload speed either, presumably?

[weary idol]

no it does get reload speed

just doesn't generate peril

[thorn cedar]

fucken what

[weary idol]

it both is, and isn't a reload

fatshark coding very good

[thorn cedar]

lmao

alright i gotta try that with the agrip

[clear heath]

wait what

[nocturne dust]

very cool, thank you fatshark

[clear heath]

wtf

[thorn cedar]

that's hilarious

it's like a patrick meme with the ID

[deft stump]

You mean heresy, right? Going from panic insta potato to wat damage?

[long wharf]

should we dump WR or QS on trauma?

[brazen rampart]

Dump warp resistance on everything except voidstrike, which dumps blast radius.

[long wharf]

cool

[ripe obsidian]

I might be missing the joke, but I mean going from Havoc back down to Auric. I can play goofy builds and feel immortal

[deft stump]

I'm the resident heresy player. Who went from heresy to H40 because people thought it would be funny to see what happens.

I still have 0 confidence for harder diffs alone so...

[ripe obsidian]

H40's not too bad most of the time if the team is coordinated or if you have enough defensive abilities

But play whatever difficulty is fun for you, tbh

[deft stump]

Whatever has players when I play at graveyard hours, lul.

[nocturne dust]

Only way to get that confidence is to throw your head at the brick wall until the wall breaks

[deft stump]

So damnation while panicking.

[nocturne dust]

Yes, suffer the difficulty until it is no longer difficult

[deft stump]

Impossible. Still will panic.

Different panic. The, I don't wanna embarass myself getting hit in uprising panic.

[nocturne dust]

Imagine being embarassed for being your true self

I'm trash and I'm proud

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ugly-gif-3448394

[deft stump]

Hrmph.

[ripe obsidian]

Depending on what graveyard hours means in your timezone, feel free to invite me

[ripe obsidian]

The only times we played together, your internet crapped itself. >:(

[deft stump]

Think 16 hours from now.

[nocturne dust]

My internet is trash and I'm proud

If my internet is good, I can solo the whole map (This happens about one day per month)

(provided I'm actually paying attention)

This is like the real difficulty of the game

having an attention span

[ripe obsidian]

That is 1pm my time. Soon to be noon my time. I am moving to a worse timezone.

[patent mango]

put family guy on the side

[ripe obsidian]

I maybe could? Never tried. Solo isn't very fun for me

[fiery stratus]

Needs subway surfers gameplay at the top of darktide

[patent mango]

play dt on 2x speed

[deft stump]

That's like 4 AM for me, lul.

[fiery stratus]

If anyone doesn't use Super Impact, you should.

[deft stump]

What are you, 10?

[nocturne dust]

Same, it's more stressful than anything

[ripe obsidian]

What is that, Australia?

[deft stump]

No, Singapore.

[patent mango]

lore accurate zealot

[nocturne dust]

Come back when you can solo-carry an auric for ten minutes and then say that again

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. I prefer to have someone else to suffer for my mistakes so I don't have to

[ripe obsidian]

I was close! Geographically. Probably not culturally.

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-darktide-bonk-gif-1640802954755837923

Hammer good

[deft stump]

You said you lack attention span.

[nocturne dust]

Force Hammer when

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/b1ADJ.gif

[fiery stratus]

Finally I can watch family guy

[nocturne dust]

Yes. I dunno anyone capable of staying locked-in for an entire match and not get exhausted

[fiery stratus]

this ones kinda boring after 12 seconds though

[patent mango]

watch family guy beautiful moments on youtube.com

[deft stump]

Is totally diff, I grew up playing with drunk aussies though. Much saner than the avg SEA crowd.

[nocturne dust]

Alcohol does tend to increase sanity

[ripe obsidian]

Not sure about Australian culture enough to say, but I have family in NZ. I would like to move there one day. Or just go back to Norway.

[deft stump]

Don't get to that situation is the best bet.

[nocturne dust]

Si. But my point is that is why it's a test of attention

[deft stump]

More chill, more friendly swears. In actual SEA, you get extreme toxicity from literally any DPS or 'carry' player. They might not even be able to carry.

Why the, it's either insane tryhard or really bad.

[ripe obsidian]

tbh that sounds like NA LoL, back when I played that

[deft stump]

More like they don't care about losses as much. Much of the toxicity comes from losing in SEA.

[nocturne dust]

NA isn't like that at all now 🤷‍♂️

I mean, pubs are stupid, but they tend to be chill

[deft stump]

Also, always leave if you see more than 1 loner stealth zealot. They will speedrun and insult you till you die or catch up with them dealing with the whole map's worth of aggro dump.

[ripe obsidian]

This was maybe 8 years ago. Like season... 5? I quit because of the toxicity

[nocturne dust]

wait

are you not talking about Darktide

[ripe obsidian]

I did say LoL, not DT

[deft stump]

Sounds like LoL or something.

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, I read it as laugh out loud

[deft stump]

Cos DOTA2 never had seasons per se.

League of LesbiansLegends

[ripe obsidian]

I do not regret quitting League.

That place sucked

[deft stump]

I mean, if you throw in "competitive" multiplayer PvP, it becomes 1000x worse.

And as said, asian mindset be, you are either number 1/ the best or you are a failure.

Nobody wants to lose and will flame the weakest link unless that's themselves, then they flame the support if there's one or the second worst.

Though, 5 carry games basically is normal in SEA.

If you have a support, they are position 9.

[fiery stratus]

See that general behavior coupled with the fact that people sweat like crazy, is why I don't really play competitive PVP games anymore

[copper jay]

What is your horde combos ?

[nocturne dust]

For mk6, elites are just heavy spam. Horde combo is more complex, lemme see if I can find the graphic

[deft stump]

It happens to anything you can really lose in. Unless you get a nice group of ppl.

[nocturne dust]

You want to use lights to combo into heavy 3

[deft stump]

I'll light spam and get away with it. Heh. Flees.

[nocturne dust]

Push light is especially effective for it

[nocturne dust]

I mean I do that too

[deft stump]

Is why I say the mk 6 is simple.

Light spam for small-med hordes, heavy spam for crushers and such. Ezy.

Just reeeeeeeeeeee at bad dodge compared to the normal force sword.

[copper jay]

Thanks !

[young cliff]

Thanks for answering that much better than what I could've done DeadVoid

[pure dragon]

What is, if there is one, the horde clear combo with deimos? I know i should be using my staff but I'm just thinking in the weird scenario I couldnt and had to use a sword

I'm just spamming lights

[thorn cedar]

yea that's about it

you can mix in the heavy 1 if you like

[pale rock]

Anyone willing to help me with the Malleus Monstronum penance?

[fading patrol]

Sea region doto until a certain point

[deft stump]

I know. The top 1% games are normal. Everything else and unranked be like...

[deft stump]

Ask @upper sun when he gets on. Or find two others and I'll get on my Psyker.

[fading patrol]

Put tank in a mall

[plucky flax]

You don't need any extra player to help with that penance

[paper dust]

@deft stump the keeper of the trickster fluff I ask of thee for fluffer update

[pale rock]

Yes, you do. It can only be done in a Private Game

Which you can't launch solo

[plucky flax]

Only 2 people needed

The message was asking for 2 extra players on top

And if you're pro like me you can do private game solo (with mods)

[pale rock]

Yeah, except that tends to mess with penances, this one in particular

Mods, that is

[deft stump]

You really want him to spend 4 hours on it, is it?

[plucky flax]

You can do a heresy difficulty surely

[deft stump]

Not on my psyker.

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

I'm serious.

[plucky flax]

Havoc 40 ready player

[deft stump]

Look, I never lied about being mechanically unsound.

[empty pivot]

which one of you FREAKS, know how to setup the quell cancel macro. Im getting carple tunnel in my left hand and its not from looking at saint mesothelioma

[hardy coral]

Kinetic Flayer with a a Soulblaze build + inferno staff is kinda hilarious, being able to insta kill a Reaper in Auric Maelstrom that also spreads more soulblaze is so nice, plus being able to kill stuff from far away with BB after shrieking is

[brazen rampart]

Don't quell cancel. It's that easy.

Play the game the way its intended to be played smh.

[brazen rampart]

Shrieking into a crowd and watching some poor shotgunner get instantly headsploded will never get old.

[autumn lark]

You could use a macro to autofire without quell cancel

[hardy coral]

its the Crushers and Bulwarks that need BB

[strong gulch]

SB DoT and shriek (except warp rupture) don't trigger KF. 😭

Regular burn DoT from infernus blessing does tho. lmao

[brazen rampart]

Yeah, I run warp rupture sometimes.

[strong gulch]

Bleed is like SB. It doesn't trigger KF either. Only burn from regular fire for some reason.

[strong gulch]

I see.

Ok. Then that makes sense.

[brazen rampart]

Mainly it's a "I don't want to cuck the random pubber using sb" build.

Cause if I shriek after they do, I hijack all their sb stacks.

[strong gulch]

Whoever shrieks first gets ownership for bigger scoreboard number. So if you shriek second, that other player owns the stacks.

[brazen rampart]

Oh, interesting, I thought whoever touched the enemy last has ownership.

Seems that means I can just run sb shriek without worry then.

[strong gulch]

Nope. The other way. It's how a surge/ EK staff user spamming shriek will do more SB damage than a purg/ inferno user.

Longer range and easier to spam shriek.

[brazen rampart]

Thats... silly.

Why fatshark coded the game this way, I will never understand.

[strong gulch]

Wildfire is the sibling troll talent. It helps steal a suprising amount of SB. lmao

IDK. I don't know or understand code, and even I am like "Why is it like this?"

[brazen rampart]

So, wait, I can't steal soulblaze ownership with shriek, but I can with wildfire?

That's fucking dumb.

[strong gulch]

Oh fork. I just say the time. I need to go to bed and hope sleeping finds me.

Wildfire helps with spread. So even if you get 1 SB stack to spread on enemies from your various sources, you get the big scoreboard number.

You can absolutely steal SB ownership with shriek. No peril shirek to get 1 SB stack on a bunch of enemies can fork over the purg/ inferno user.

The inferno still have their direct damage, but DoT damage takes a huge hit.

Zazzy and I think Pygex were doing testing, and who applies buffs to the DoTs alternates iirc.

Applied buffs vs scorboard damage are very different tho.

Blazeaway can take quite the hit when the inferno user doesn't have ownership, but it seems to not be AS bad as originally thought.

Or maybe it was alternating and it was randomized for buffs. Can't remember now. I'll have to remember to ask Zazzy.

Ok bed.

[summer prairie]

the game doesn't have a scoreboard, it didn't matter much for FS

[plucky flax]

Whoever applies it first is the owner

[marble crater]

Good night

[hardy coral]

there is something cursed but truly beautiful about getting this modifier. especially as a Psyker that isnt up front and just watch the Zealot get demolished by 10 Bursters.

[marble crater]

That's one of the few missions were I would love smite

[jovial juniper]

Diva maelstrom mentioned

What the hell is cool down

[marble crater]

Oh nice, they added Rogue Trader to Gamepass

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-fr-fr-fr-fr-ong-ong-dog-gif-27487203

Oh damn

Fr fr

[marble crater]

I like these events, their missions seem to have a higher chance of being lights out

[vapid trout]

damn what a atrecious skins for psyker where the drip go

[jovial juniper]

What? You don't know?

It's one semi decent set

Then 500 slop

Then one semi decent set

[vapid trout]

the newest one its so meh and that winter one dosen;t look like psyker at all

sad times

and why zealot have so much cool shit cmon where balance

[fathom adder]

The winter one has a cool and psyker looking helmet at least

[jovial juniper]

Zealots have been getting rags and gimp masks for a while

😭

The armor is quite literally the only good body cosmetic

Probably followed by the robes

The many eyes psyker cosmetic is peak though

[weary crane]

https://youtu.be/wGOBJ9oaZug?si=0PT48H7nClSwW9BR

love broken maps

[radiant frigate]

true

[upper sun]

no excise vault BUT we got 21st hell yeah

[vernal temple]

solved instantly

[upper sun]

world war z aftermath free on epic

[last shore]

It was a maelstrom rotation yesterday

[patent mango]

is this peak or slop

[north tartan]

It’s not bad

[upper sun]

its ok

[patent mango]

no way

[blissful solar]

it's plop

[fresh panther]

Wwz is great if you don't care about sound design or melee mechanics lol

fires assault rifle that sounds like a rubber band gun

[hardy delta]

when you use m1 attack of a staff

[patent mango]

help him

[marble crater]

Blue stim and m1 spam

[upper sun]

i heard rogue trader got added to xbox gamepass

[marble crater]

It did indeed

Too bad that it will have to wait a while

[upper sun]

smh bro is gonna walk night city for 300 hours before playing the main quest

[marble crater]

[vernal blaze]

reddit talking about using crystalline will to help with true survivor 😭

[patent mango]

its peak

[prime elk]

Reddit also thinks pox bombers were unironically a good addition to the game

[marble crater]

Just shoot them

[pliant sage]

I have never struggled with pox bombers?

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-duh-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-gif-21849807

[pliant sage]

Not going to sugar coat it

Surgical Zarona Revolver my beloved

[weary idol]

I would love to but they're for some unknowable reason the quietest specials in the game

[prime elk]

They're just annoying and unfun to play against 🤷‍♂️

[patent mango]

what about stealth crusher specials

[prime elk]

Also annoying in a different way but less of an issue

[earnest sand]

Stealth POx bombers are a feature 🧐

[marble crater]

I don't know, I might not always be able to kill them, but I do know where they are

[earnest sand]

New difficulty modifier "deaf rejects"

[pliant sage]

Never really had an issue with sneaky pox bombers, probably cause I have trained myself to constantly be on alert for any sounds

[prime elk]

No audio cues modifier

[pliant sage]

I can catch the whiff of heretic idols mid horde

[marble crater]

Only times I have sound problems is when there is a huge mixed horde with elites, gunners and then also a pox hound wave spawns while everyone is using abilities

[earnest sand]

I have a decent chunk of no sound cues maybe it's a PS5 issue. Mainly in hordes of any kind

[clear heath]

i think tox bombers are horrible but the suffering adds to the experience

[patent mango]

tox bomber gas radius is a little much but idk it is kinda funny

[prime elk]

Definitely not just a PS5 issue. It's a game issue

[patent mango]

team stops paying attention for 1s and entire map is pure tox gas

[pliant sage]

maybe its just cause I play shroudfield zealot and as soon as I catch a WHIFF of that pox bombers dirty little hands, I hunt them down

[clear heath]

the game wouldn't be the same without all the jank

maybe this is stockholm syndrome but it wouldn't feel like darktide without a single gas bomb filling an entire room, silent crushers, nets phasing through corners...

[prime elk]

Yeah and then trying to locate the bomber becomes fucking aids lol

[jovial juniper]

NGL
First week was a nightmare
But I do think they are an interesting addition
Tox gas hurts but they also conceal you so

[patent mango]

lmao true

[prime elk]

Usually not a problem but it's just annoying

[pliant sage]

Just be the guardian of the team, even vigilant like mister benny emps wants you to be

[prime elk]

Does it act like smoke against ranged enemies?

[jovial juniper]

Yup, same effect

Still hurts like hell though

[prime elk]

Lol yeah

They're definitely a very high priority specialist for me

Need to kill them in the womb

[vernal blaze]

I feel like even the radius might be fine if they just had a distinct perimeter indicator on the UI or just on the ground if you're not practically standing at the center of the cloud

[jovial juniper]

I have a video somewhere where I get trapped (the trapper hugged me) but a flamer just runs in circles since we were inside gas

[prime elk]

I think the gas sticks around for too long, which adds to how annoying the enemy is

[vernal blaze]

I've had maybe 4 pox gas auric maels in one sitting where 2 of my randoms were under level 50

[lean pivot]

the vault is bacccccckkk

[vernal blaze]

that was a fun experience I think

[charred crest]

hey i just finished leveling my electro staff but I still have 4 blessing points leftover, is this a bug? the notif doesn't go away 😡

[marble crater]

Yes it's a bug, welcome to the club

[charred crest]

ugh

[marble crater]

I think it was supposed to be in this last hot fix, so it will probably included in the next one

[charred crest]

ok that's nice at least

thx anyways

[prime elk]

When did the rework happen? Feels like that bug has been there for five months lmao

[marble crater]

Sounds about right

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/fushigi-magic-ball-balls-tricky-gif-16182753

The golden orb aeaeaea

[marble crater]

Personally I don't even find it annoying, because all my weapons are maxed out anyway

[prime elk]

I'd rather them fix the fucking inventory bug ASAP

But it's prob not going to be fixed until 2026

[marble crater]

What inventory bug?

[buoyant maple]

inventory automatically goes to the top weapon after exiting a specific weapon's menu

it's really really annoying when crafting stuff

[marble crater]

Yeah that is annoying. I hadn't crafted anything in forever and I genuinely couldn't remember if it was always like that or not

[prime elk]

I'm constantly changing marks and reblessing shit and this drives me up the wall

[marble crater]

Sounds cheaper to make a separate weapon

And less annoying

[round blaze]

What is the obscuris horde-clear combo?

[prime elk]

Lights heavies or the other way around iirc

[earnest sand]

That inventory bug felt recent also which sucks cause I horde stuff

[strong gulch]

Yeah, I empowered my 36 WR illisi because of the bug.

[prime elk]

Noooo

[vernal blaze]

light heavy block repeat is the usual combo I think

[spiral storm]

FLakniac on obscuris?

[buoyant maple]

Carapace + flak

[spiral storm]

Can unyielding slot in for monster damage or nah?

[buoyant maple]

Swap flak for unyielding then

[spiral storm]

kk

What's the "best" dueling sword mark?

[jovial juniper]

4 for brain off

2 for 4 but a better horde clear (you can disregard horde clear)

5 for really funny dodges

So mk4

[marble crater]

4

[vernal temple]

4 is clearly the best DS mark. No braincells needed to utilize

just press LMB to win

[vernal blaze]

every melee weapon presses lmb to win

[torpid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/stuck-hazen-audel-how-to-survive-quicksand-primal-survivor-trapped-gif-19208698 fgs when you only use lmb

[wise ruin]

does anyone have a good assail build?

[tight scroll]

i think scrier's is very fun with assail

[tight scroll]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e36d8ea-9179-4a30-b88f-4564d538fc72/frieren-smokes-a-fat-doobie

ppl here told me to swap unyielding on the recon to unarmoured and cara + unyielding on sword

but use whatever weapons you want

[verbal thistle]

middle aura?

[marble crater]

CDR good

[jovial juniper]

5% crit ain't helping

Alternatively

[jovial juniper]

That being said you still have to pick the 5% crit chance sub node right above KD

So 10%

[verbal thistle]

lol

[jovial juniper]

Yeah I just have beef with that Aura

You could probably still pick it and have your ranged with another 5 or something

[wise ruin]

what weapons do u run with this?

[jovial juniper]

Mostly single target weapons since that's basically a horde killing assail build

And because of Mettle something more crit oriented

Like a knife or dueling sword

[nocturne dust]

bro acting like the CDR is 💀

Someday auras will be cool

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[jovial juniper]

I look point and laugh at 5 crit

When zealots are able to give 10 to their team

[nocturne dust]

por que no los dos

[jovial juniper]

Not that they'll ever path there

[jovial juniper]

Oh I'd love to feed crits so a Recon vet just brrrrr everywhere

Ain't happening though

[nocturne dust]

Recon vet splooging all over the place with hot liquid

[jovial juniper]

With the lights out

🗣️

[patent mango]

https://youtu.be/rFwloFsEVA8

4 greatswords run

lmao

[jovial juniper]

Ok with Reciprocity, innate crit chance, 5 crit, 10 from zealots and 5 from psyker

That's about 50% crit chance

If they use deadshit that's another 25

With OpSal another 10

5 from weapon perk and 2 stacks of headhunter and that's 100

Now they just need to have stamina up, be dodging like crazy

The alternative is a laspistol with the new crit blessings

[strong gulch]

lmao someone got cliffhanger here by spamming min FGS specials.

[marble crater]

[lone wing]

hey i've played with these people before
cept jsat

[strong gulch]

I don't think I've played with any of them. I know of or talked to a few of them.

[fervent willow]

What would win 4 asaill psykers or one big boi

[patent mango]

lmao how

[nocturne dust]

that spot has enemies spawn right in front of a ledge

It happens often where I'll tag the spot, see a special and throw various stagger at it and see the special get knocked off the map

[upper sun]

🚬 had to play malice to finally play exise vault

[hasty silo]

just mmt dude

[upper sun]

dont have it

[nocturne dust]

mmt doesn't work if you don't have the match saved

[patent mango]

its so jolly

[hasty silo]

https://maelstroom.net/

enjoy

[nocturne dust]

[fresh panther]

This is cool, I didn't know about it

[blissful solar]

ironically maelstroom doesn't have maelstroms on it

[clear heath]

I think they show up if you check "Flash Missions"

[fathom adder]

AAAH I'M GONNA MAELSTROOM

[nocturne dust]

Stop maelstrooming all over the place, please. Think of the noobs.

[blissful solar]

oh wow, true

[clear heath]

oh there's another site now
https://otwako.github.io/darktide-mission/

[fathom adder]

What blessings do Psykers like for Laspistol? Can't decide which two of Dumdum/Infernus/Desperado

[nocturne dust]

Infernus/Dumdum iirc

Desperado is problematic in that it is drastically worse Riposte with a much shorter duration and lower crit chance

[analog agate]

Infernus/ghost can work in havoc

[fathom adder]

I was thinking it could be helpful while I'm actually shooting since apparently Riposte doesn't help ranged weapons

[nocturne dust]

Well yeah, but my point is that it's a worse version of another blessing. Even if you can't use that other blessing, you have things like Dumdum and Infernus to compete with.

[upper sun]

smh how do u not know about it

[nocturne dust]

I accept the God Emperor's missions when the God Emperor gives them, heretic

[buoyant maple]

dum dum + infernus/desperado

[buoyant maple]

this is false

it is literally riposte but gun

20% for 6s

[nocturne dust]

except lower crit and a much lower duration

[buoyant maple]

tooltip is wrong

[nocturne dust]

[buoyant maple]

no

u got bamboozled by fatshark

[nocturne dust]

You're saying Fatshark would lie to me?

[crystal cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-been-a-lot-of-misinformation-out-there-brad-pitt-saturday-night-live-deceptions-lies-gif-17104186

[buoyant maple]

you're roughly like

5 months late

to finding this out about desperado

[nocturne dust]

I don't use laspistol much 🤷‍♂️

[upper sun]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[crystal cobalt]

a

[upper sun]

game still crashes if you press X too quickly in inventory

[nocturne dust]

b

[fathom adder]

Gonna try Dumperado again

[nocturne dust]

Even if Desperado is just Riposte, it's still not that good imo

[buoyant maple]

it's 20% free crit chance and can be activated by empathic evasion

[nocturne dust]

Dumdum is 30% free damage

Infernus is free burny burn

[buoyant maple]

yea which is why dum dum + infernus/desperado

infernus can be replaced by desperado

[nocturne dust]

yes

[clear heath]

are you sure this works?

[fathom adder]

Ghost Desperado would be lulzy (on classes that don't get Empathic I guess) if the Laspistol had better base damage

[clear heath]

i vaguely remember someone mentioning empathic evasion doesn't trigger but i haven't checked

[buoyant maple]

it quite literally uses riposte's code but gives crit chance while ranged weapon is in hand

ghost can activate desperado

[nocturne dust]

Now hold up

We both know that's not enough

with Fatshark programming

[buoyant maple]

in this case it is

[nocturne dust]

I shall believe you because I am too lazy to verify

[buoyant maple]

u can use show_crit_chance mod to check

it's a good mod anyway

I use that to check reciprocity stack uptime

[nocturne dust]

I use it

[clear heath]

could find out from the buff icon too

[nocturne dust]

I'm too lazy to verify anyway

[patent mango]

2036 dclaw meta 2036 dclaw meta 2036

[prime elk]

Makes me want to try ES laspis again with desperado instead of ghost

[marble crater]

Why are people allergic to hitting corrupters

[fathom adder]

_"The year is 2036. Darktide 3 has been released after much hype, and the Dclaw is meta because it's literally the only melee weapon the game launched with.

Fatshark has since announced its intent to announce its intent to add a second melee weapon following the implementation of the promised "multiplayer" game mode, and Darktide 3's release on the upcoming generation of consoles."_

[upper sun]

darktide 3 is gonna be a basebuilder with zero combat you just sent outstrike teams

[crystal cobalt]

....... i'd be down

give me 40k X-com, you won't

[long wharf]

Darktide 3 is going to be an isometric roguelite city builder tower defense with gacha collectables

[fresh panther]

No dating sim component? Literally unplayable

[long wharf]

the dating isekai harem sim will be dlc

and live service

[feral carbon]

hey fatshark
why aint your event working
i should be at 7/8 rn

[marble crater]

Isn't that Rogue Trader, kind of?

[crystal cobalt]

nah, Rogue Trader is 40k Baldurs Gate

actual 40k X-com is Mechanicus

but I forgot that existed for a minute

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

I just got one of the quick push handheld games, and it's pretty dang fun.

[cosmic sigil]

Darktide 3 will be a dating sim

[strong gulch]

Viscera cleanup and collect the scattered bolts.

[patent jacinth]

Rogue trader is 40k Kingmaker

[marble crater]

This is all getting very complicated

[strong gulch]

Just so many loose bolts.

[restive slate]

Rogue Trader is a Dating Sim

[copper jay]

What is your opinion about Smite ?

[restive slate]

"What do you do when you find out that your childhood crush who loves you was a Genestealer Hybrid all along?"

[analog agate]

It is good or bad depending on how it is used. It is hated for 2 good and different reasons

[young falcon]

Use the push part of smite. Please

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh
I can hold smite for a whole minute

🗣️

[patent mango]

are you really a psyker if you dont have 99% smite uptime

with subway surfers and family guy on the side

[strong gulch]

I think smite should either be reworked or removed because of how it scales and how misuse impacts other players. I'd be fine with smite if it was generally used better. But...

A lot of people just spam it on everything without positioning in mind. So enemies are stopped in a spread out manner in places you generally want to avoid fighting in. Also, people want to fight and play the game. So having the enemy ai turned off for so much of the map can be REALLY not fun.

That being said, it can be game saving and used as positioning utility. When someone knows when hold smite and when to let others play the game, I am never disappointed.

[vernal temple]

lmao my character name has more letters than the names of all three of my teammates combined

[strong gulch]

I know you like more mechanically interesting ways to play, so you might be interested in the way @thorn cedar uses smite. #psyker-class message

[patent mango]

smite just needs a rework lol

[vernal temple]

what Smite needs is a buff! lower peril generation, increase damage

[strong gulch]

Smite now stun locks monsters and Ogryns were nerfed.

Knife is now slower and can't push a poxwalker.

[vernal temple]

duelling sword now crits on every hit

[strong gulch]

wtf

lol

[vernal temple]

buff the DS to oblivion

[patent mango]

yeah ds needs a few buffs

its c tier rn

[jovial juniper]

I need POTS

Aaaaaaa

[fringe garden]

I want a small voidstrike buff of some sort. I don't even know what. Just something.

[vernal temple]

loud sneezes? really ship mistress?

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-spiderverse-spiderman-mets-gif-17808434626287079049

[vernal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/husky-sneeze-cute-gif-15211626

[patent mango]

mayb ogryn sneezes are powerful

i think ds needs parry from dclaw and ds needs a fully horizontal horde clear combo and more mobility

[vernal temple]

now I wonder

how cursed would Smite with EP be if also combined with Scrier's Gaze and Warp Unbound?

[strong gulch]

I read unauthorized lunches. 😭

[vernal temple]

rashuns

[jovial juniper]

Kills bulwarks in 17 seconds

Crushers in 22+

Can be chained infinitely

Specially on DIVA maelstrom

Or the fixivig whatever maelstrom

[vernal temple]

22+ seconds to kill a crusher with smite. I could probably kill one faster just by looking at it funny

[jovial juniper]

Do that to 8

At the same time

Anyways

[patent mango]

give smite a cleave cap

[jovial juniper]

Feeling sassier? Get Warp Syphon instead

Now you have an even infinitier Scriers Smite