psyker-class

[hearty wolf]

ur awesome

[patent mango]

yippie

oh my god i've used bb so little

wonder how much more som1 who uses staves would have

[nocturne dust]

Let's find out

[patent mango]

i dont think this is right LOL

[nocturne dust]

how do you

see t

the number?

[patent mango]

mod

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

1s

mod is called how did i get that

[marble crater]

So pretty

[patent mango]

maybe

ok yea its how did i get that

[upper sun]

its time to STOP

[patent mango]

doofenshmirtz house

oh my god

i havent even done this

[nocturne dust]

imagine not having all the psyker penances

[marble crater]

That map is actually very bright still, even with lights out

[patent mango]

wheres my fgs penances

oh wait

this is actually ridiculously easy to get all the remaining penances for psyker

i got 2 left

imma go do that

[nocturne dust]

hhhmmm mod isn't working for me

[patent mango]

it shows up in uh

inventory

[nocturne dust]

ugh

[patent mango]

imma play an assail ep build

is this even good

idk im doing it for penances

[nocturne dust]

I have 381k kills total according to one of my frames

[stark crown]

EP Assail is pretty solid but you're mainly going to have to playing around Assail if you do that for your Keystone instead of like typical Gunker or Meleeker gameplay

[nocturne dust]

Warp kills literally half of all my kills

[patent mango]

dude

warp kills are 1/7 of mine

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

And that's including other classes too

[patent mango]

oh

[nocturne dust]

lol

[patent mango]

well i did play ogryn a decent bit

but its mostly cause i've always been melee psyker

lmao

[radiant frigate]

yippie

[patent mango]

ever since obscurus

was the only unique melee

for psykuh

[radiant frigate]

i used to run the old surge staff so i can skip the shooter encounters so i can get back to the joys of melee faster

[patent mango]

i ran shredder autopistol

it was meta

hilarious stuff

ohmy god i hate wu its so buggy

[muted grove]

whats the best blessings for a heavy laspistol

wait boltpistol

nope laspistol

[patent mango]

erm

heavy las uhh...

desperado infernus??

i use that i think

[muted grove]

i dont have the materials to upgrade that agripina for the tac ace build so im subbing it with a heavy laspistol since i have one :/

ty

[patent mango]

dude i saw the wu nearly peril me

[strong gulch]

Do you have melk coins?

[patent mango]

but i cancelled the peril

why does it have jumpscares built in??

[nocturne dust]

Nooooooooooooooooooooo 😭

You have to hoard your melk coins like a dragon

[strong gulch]

Burn it if you got em.

[muted grove]

yes!

[strong gulch]

Feck it red bean.

[strong gulch]

You can buy a few random weapons and sell em

Not the limited shop

[muted grove]

selling weapons gives resources?

[strong gulch]

Ye

[patent mango]

ye

[muted grove]

wtf fr im gonna be rich then

[patent mango]

it don show up

tho

[marble crater]

You can spend gold, to buy something and then sell it for a few dollars

[strong gulch]

The higher the consecration more it favors plasteel and diamantine

[thorn cedar]

you got options, all of which are pretty good

[patent mango]

spend melk dollar to sell melk purchases

[strong gulch]

YES THIS

[thorn cedar]

ghost/infernus/desperado/dumdum, mix and match to your preference

[patent mango]

i don thinky psyker needs ghost

[strong gulch]

I run out of ordos and assumed so ordos

my bad

[thorn cedar]

i also dont think psyker does
but sometimes
well just sometimes
that crit doesnt come out on time

and you were mashing that fucking reaper with headshot after headshot

[patent mango]

true

[thorn cedar]

and you die anyway

[strong gulch]

Empathy had me projecting myself onto another like a chump.

[muted grove]

whats the argument for curious being stam/tough/tough vs stam/tough/health? is it just preference or is one better for noobs

[thorn cedar]

and its like fuck my ass ghost would have been so nice

[patent mango]

well

taht was easy

back to stabbing people

[thorn cedar]

people like the extra stam cause psyker has very little by default but has high regeneration

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn should have no stam cap

[thorn cedar]

health is nice, having more than 200 keeps bursters from taking you out in two blasts which is a frequenter occurence the lower the lobby's skill is

toughness is toughness, you use it more than health, but it's less about the amount and more about being able to regenerate it quickly when it's not full, which psyker also does pretty good at

so if you still have trouble bouncing back after toughness hits and you take hp loss, youll want more toughness so that those hp hits will be mitigated slightly and youll have more breathing room

[strong gulch]

There is a general rec to get to 200 hp and x1 sniper resist. That lets you tank a sniper and a couple bursters.

Outside of that is mostly personal pref and playstyle.

KD is made even stronger with a +stam curio, but a stam also lets you chain knife PA on psyker even more than other classes.

[nocturne dust]

201 HP, specifically

[thorn cedar]

oh and yeah, kinetic deflection

which you can view two ways

either you dont need extra stamina because you take it to let you push attack spam with impunity in a fight

or you do take extra because it has funny mathstuff and having one +3 means your blocking potential is absolutely hilarious

[patent mango]

stupid as hell mauler when i hit them with the stupid as hell mauler clear wave

[marble crater]

I like KD for the simple fact that I can block for a bit and then still sprint away because I have my stamina still and didn't use it for blocking

[strong gulch]

It's almost 7pm here and I want to go to bed.

heck

[patent mango]

kd is good for chatblock

[marble crater]

That is why I always eat shit when I play vet

[patent mango]

i can just alt tab at anytime

like literally rn

until an overhead lmaooo

[marble crater]

Good night

[strong gulch]

Fun fact, getting ready for bed wakes me up and then I can't sleep for hours.

Also telling me to go to bed.

[marble crater]

Sounds like a skill issue

[strong gulch]

ye

[marble crater]

For me it's falling asleep while watching a youtube video, put the phone away to sleep and then being awake

[strong gulch]

REAL

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's literally shining a flashlight in your face, is what a phone is

[marble crater]

Not even getting up or anything, just put the phone down with one move of the arm, but that's too much I guess

[strong gulch]

soothing video gone
brain go brrr

[nocturne dust]

I exercise right before bed so I'm not staring into monitors and am tired

But really, you kinda just need to set a specific ritual to do before bed and that will help most of all

(and also, only have it before bed)

[strong gulch]

I have a ritual. but brain things

fecking sleep hygiene

[nocturne dust]

that's fair, I have brain things too 😔

[marble crater]

You guys have brains?

[thorn cedar]

yea thats really it, having a separate resource pool for block is an absolute dream for mobility

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/you-guys-are-getting-paid-gif-20686662

[nocturne dust]

I have to know how to make rice somehow

[strong gulch]

In theory I do, but I haven't had it confirmed.

[thorn cedar]

that said i dont recommend staminamaxxing just for kd shenanigans

[nocturne dust]

Mom says it's my turn on the brain

[thorn cedar]

take stam cus you want stam

[strong gulch]

I just stared at my rice cooker and decided no

[marble crater]

I take stam to not fall behind the rest of the team

Because I know they will laugh and judge me while waiting in the elevator

[thorn cedar]

join me in the cult of sprint efficiency

[strong gulch]

when the randomizer button gives you all stam curios and 2 are fake "+3"s that you refuse to toss for unknown reasons.

[nocturne dust]

ew

Fake psyker

[marble crater]

I might, my curio perks are health, toughness and then I can't decide for the third really

[thorn cedar]

you'll be amazed what 3x sprint eff feels like

[nocturne dust]

health, tou

ghness, and a

why is my keyboard doing this

[lyric burrow]

i just run another toughness really cause stam regen on psyker is absurd

[nocturne dust]

[marble crater]

CDR feels like it doesn't really do much when you have psy aura

[nocturne dust]

Health, toughness, and ability cooldown is wat I was going to say

That's fair

but like

it's how you maxx damage

[thorn cedar]

yea sorta hard to care about 12% when you can already clear 12.5% off every elite kill lmao

[nocturne dust]

regardless of how much it does

[strong gulch]

Hello Yoshi. Long time no see.

[lyric burrow]

oh for 3rd perk CDR or something

w/e really

[nocturne dust]

I would use stam regen before sprint efficiency

[lyric burrow]

other than like hound resist

corruption resist if you get goop modifier on havoc

[marble crater]

I will use flamer resist

[nocturne dust]

Use sniper res

amaze others with your bulletproof head

[strong gulch]

kick resist when

[lyric burrow]

sprint effic is probably fine but ive never used it so i cannot vouch nor advise against

[nocturne dust]

I need me some lag resist

[marble crater]

Is there trapper resist? Does it make the net fly past you?

[lyric burrow]

if only

[nocturne dust]

I can say sprint eff is bad

(on psyker specifically)

[patent mango]

trapper resists slows nets down

[lyric burrow]

i cant really imagine the use case unless you are diving gunners like across the map

with no other support

[fathom adder]

Bomber Resist used to only work on their kicks lol

[strong gulch]

Image all 3 making it so she has to have line of sight. No through walls or bulkwark crusher waves.

[thorn cedar]

it's relevant at any time you press your sprint key

[fathom adder]

Or through burgles

[strong gulch]

And the bomb doming you in the dome.

[marble crater]

or hitting you mid air when you jump down

[thorn cedar]

"nice try, bomber, but thanks to my build, your grenade now only dealt 4 damage to my forehead!"

[fathom adder]

and then dragging you back up to the ledge (no tether btw)

[marble crater]

extra points if you jumped down because there was fire at the top

[strong gulch]

New mechanic.

You can inchworm yourself around.

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn shouldn't get trapped, the net should just wrap around their legs and trip them for a bit

and also be able to just shrug off dogs

[marble crater]

yea

[strong gulch]

also be able to do a pullup

[marble crater]

All of them should be able to do one, vets because they are soldiers, zealot will pull themselves up because of their faith and psykers will do some warp fuckery to lower everything else around them so they don't have to pull themselves up

[nocturne dust]

I mean, swole nerds is a thing

FGS literally requires you be swole to wield it, according to description

[strong gulch]

There's a lethal company video in my recs.

If we all ever played, y'all would see how much of a coward I am.

[nocturne dust]

Lol, I don't play horror games because they don't scare me (I'm scared of the dark in real life)

[strong gulch]

Scary games are scary

[marble crater]

Play lights out to prepare yourself

[strong gulch]

I am scared of scary games.

Tell me a game is a scary game but it's really just walk though a flower field simulator and I will be super scared the whole time.

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Also, steam wrapped or whatever labeled darktide as a horror game.

🙃

[nocturne dust]

Just bring a thunderhammer to handle the daemons

[nocturne dust]

Existential horror

[strong gulch]

yes

[nocturne dust]

Time to get shoved into a box to be a slowly-decaying robo-surgeon for ten thousand years :D

[marble crater]

It is, in one of my missions earlier one of the players dropped a medpack infront of the mid event door that closes during the event, instead of dropping the pack in the event area

If that is not horror, I don't know what is

[strong gulch]

[nocturne dust]

It's why Tau is my favorite faction

Least 40k of the 40k factions

[pliant stratus]

My psyker is lvl 20 and I still don’t know how to play him 🙂

[jovial juniper]

Keep your toughness up

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is kinda harsh while levelling.

[pliant stratus]

[jovial juniper]

[nocturne dust]

Basically, don't get hit. Psyker's main method of survival is actively stopping damage via blocking/dodging/damage/stagger

[willow hazel]

Until lv5 when they get Assail, then its really easy

[jovial juniper]

Dodging
Soulstealing
Quietudeing

Mettling

Mettling?

[patent mango]

kill everyone before they kill you!!! 🔥

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[pliant stratus]

Staff go bonk

[patent mango]

just need this one now

[muted grove]

What is a tac axe push attack? I don’t seem to be doing much damage if it just the attack following a push, am I missing something?

[patent mango]

the follow up is probably good somehow

after the pa

[brazen rampart]

Push attacks are when you push and hold your m1. Tac axes have immense stagger on push attacks. You can stagger ragers out of combo with it.

[muted grove]

Holy moly that made a difference

Thank you!!!

[patent mango]

how the frick

how does this even count kills

oh wait

i forgot to read it properly

oh well

no wonder i dont got it complete then

that'll take a bit

this will help with it

[summer prairie]

takes like 4 havocs

[patent mango]

lmao

i dont wanna farm penances in havoc though

[summer prairie]

you'd probably take that aura anyway if there's another psyker

[brazen rampart]

You likely won't.

You can easily path through either prescience or seers presence instead.

Prescience just means you take smite, and there's nothing wrong with that.

[summer prairie]

it's often better than precience

and the other psyker has seer's

[strange jewel]

Hey question, why some people say that ilisis force sword have infinite dodges? how does taht work?

[summer prairie]

it used to long time ago

[strong gulch]

Days of old

[brazen rampart]

This is just straight up a lie.

[summer prairie]

no

[brazen rampart]

Kinetic presence doesn't get you any breakpoints lmao.

[prime elk]

what's the horde clear combo for mk6 fgs again?

[summer prairie]

i'm sure you know all about havoc breakpoints

[prime elk]

light spam and bc before the 4th light?

[strong gulch]

All force swords used to have infinite dodges. Not anymore. No more crab forever.

[patent mango]

@wet charm

[brazen rampart]

It's pretty easy to figure them out numerically. :)

[strong gulch]

Ye.

[nocturne dust]

who needs BPs when you have DoTs?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[patent mango]

me bps tasty

[brazen rampart]

Base damage of your weapon × adm of relevant armor type to figure damage per swing, divide (elite hp × 1.5) by that number.

[proper osprey]

Realist thing @nocturne dust has said

[brazen rampart]

If you wanna find base elite hps for damnation scaling, theyre in Path's guide.

[strong gulch]

You'll organically trend towards doing a couple lights then block or push anyways.

[strange jewel]

Aig, also which weapon is better great force sword or ilisi? for no particular reason, just want to know why would u pick one over the other

[brazen rampart]

Force greatswords are much better because they actually have single target attacks to deal with armor.

[strange jewel]

For your average venting shrik build btw

[patent mango]

depends on what u want am elee for

melee

[brazen rampart]

Illisi has no strikedown heavies so, despite it being a horde muncher, it falls flat vs armor.

[patent mango]

venting u don need illisi

[brazen rampart]

If you want my personal opinion, fgs is the best melee across the board, and it does illisi's job better.

Unfortunately, it has made illisi fall off.

Deimos and obscurus are still good choices if you'd like to be a little more mobile than fgs allows, though.

[patent mango]

illisi moveset just sucks

[strange jewel]

I see, yeah I have been trying out both but I still dont get used to the great one speed and dodges

[brazen rampart]

If they gave it a strikedown attack it would be infinitely better.

[strong gulch]

Illisi is better in terms of upfront horde clear and mobility. It's mostly just used with EK or voidstrike.

FGS is really solid at everything tho. It's biggest downside is mobility but it also has reach.

[patent mango]

yeee

i feel like all illisi attacks are the same

[prime elk]

ngl with mk8 i just hold down lmb

[patent mango]

not very fun

[brazen rampart]

I would honestly leave h1 and h2 as it is, but then give it a looping h3 and h4 like mk2 relic blade has.

[strange jewel]

Ye ye its for a elektro staff build too

[patent mango]

that'd work

[brazen rampart]

What even is the push attack followup on illisi? I don't think I've ever done it on purpose.

It's just h1 isn't it?

[patent mango]

idk lol

[brazen rampart]

Scuse me, h2.

[strong gulch]

If you have no idea what melee to pick, FGS is the answer unless you are doing something specific.

[brazen rampart]

I think it's just push attack directly into h2.

[strange jewel]

I think ill just keep using the great sword until I get used to the movement

Been using knifes for too long

Thanks fellas

So its a git good deal

[brazen rampart]

Yup. Mk8 offers more safety than mk6, btw.

[strange jewel]

Noted noted

[brazen rampart]

PA chains into a stab so you can effectively deal with an infinite number of melee elites.

And with a proper scriers setup you can oneshot crushers with said stab.

[strong gulch]

Pick the FGS that feels good to you.

[nocturne dust]

mk6 has a ranged slice that chains into a stab, the slice is be

better for staggering groups

[strong gulch]

People get into fights over their 6s and 8s

[patent mango]

mk6 is super fun

[strange jewel]

Already got overheaded

[patent mango]

peak

[brazen rampart]

6 is fun but 8 is safer, I'll die on this hill.

[nocturne dust]

I wouldn't consider 8 safer

[brazen rampart]

Mk8 warpshock slash chains into your overhead loop.

[nocturne dust]

6 you naturally put pushes into your combo

[brazen rampart]

Only because you don't have an easily accessible sweep heavy.

[nocturne dust]

warpshock?

[nocturne dust]

Sure.

And?

If you want safety for either mk, spamming lights (and pushes) in a horde is the way to go.

[brazen rampart]

Yeah there's nothing stopping you from doing that with mk8, is what I meant.

You kinda have to do that for mk6, not super necessary for mk8.

I was referring to PA into elite oneshots by saying mk8 is safer.

[nocturne dust]

I don't consider that combo safer at all

[brazen rampart]

You can fight several ragers at once and not take any damage by just doing PA pokes until they all die.

[nocturne dust]

The PA is single target

[wet charm]

=-=

[marble crater]

You can fight ragers by killing them with KF from the push attack

[nocturne dust]

and besides, nothing is stopping you from doing the same with the mk6, you can spam push attacks with it as well.

[marble crater]

Slapped them so hard they explode

[strong gulch]

I personally find a pack of ragers easier to kill with FGS 6.

[marble crater]

I find them easier to kill with my staff

[nocturne dust]

Having the heavy combo be immediately accessible is a big boon

but yeah, why bother stabbing ragers when they're so easy to shoot

[marble crater]

Or run away to the zealot, they are his problem now

[strong gulch]

because stab fun

oh

[patent mango]

so called ragers when i 1 shot like 10 of them in a row

[strong gulch]

I forgor. No fun.

[brazen rampart]

Every day I am grateful that fatshark did not give psykers stealth.

Aggro dumping would be so much more prevalent if that was the case.

[strong gulch]

Give orgyn stealth.

[patent mango]

give ogryn dual knives

[patent mango]

yea good amount

hi shock brute is fun

i only got overheaded once 🔥

[brazen rampart]

:(

[patent mango]

oh i saved him

he said thanks fo it

[brazen rampart]

It just made me sad to think about an ogryn comprehending that he wouldn't survive and wanting his friends to live instead.

[patent mango]

oof...

[brazen rampart]

Ogryns just make me sad, man.

[patent mango]

i dont think rejects would leave them tho

[brazen rampart]

I think the only one that might even consider leaving an ogryn would be loose cannon.

[patent mango]

idk

[brazen rampart]

The other vet personalities are soft for ogryns, and both zealouts and psykers like ogryns. (even if zealouts insult them sometimes, calling them abhuman and whatnot)

[patent mango]

this is pretty slow lmao

idk if loose cannon would leave ogryn

[brazen rampart]

I said he would consider it.

Not that he would actually leave an ogryn behind.

[patent mango]

seer defo wouldnt leave ogryns they sound so sad whenever ogryn dies

"beloooved bring him baaack :("

[brazen rampart]

Cutthroat is too angry to allow an ogryn to die like that, professional would absolutely break rules to make sure ogryns wouldn't die unnecessarily.

[nocturne dust]

Fem seer*

[patent mango]

idk how male seer reacts

[nocturne dust]

Male seer goes "Oh, ogryn's dead" shrug

[brazen rampart]

Male seer is still very sweet on ogryns.

[strong gulch]

Calls em beautiful

[patent mango]

"after all you're very beautiful!"

idk if they say very actually

[nocturne dust]

Male seer is sweet with ogryns, but male seer definitely feels more unhinged and liable to just do whatever imo

[brazen rampart]

I mean, I believe male seer is hyper sane, while fem seer is kinda just riding the lightning.

Their personalities are a little different despite sharing the same lines, mostly.

[patent mango]

isnt this loose cannon

[nocturne dust]

yeh, they're definitely different despite ostensibly being the same personality

[brazen rampart]

Yes.

[patent mango]

its odd how much the same personality can be diff sometimes

[strong gulch]

Fem seer does have a line about the rest of the team not deserving heals tho.

"Medicae is for real people and not dreams."

[nocturne dust]

all in the tone, beloved

[upper sun]

@patent mango i cant sleep

[patent mango]

lmao

[upper sun]

quick game?

[patent mango]

ok

[brazen rampart]

Loose cannon says karker a lot, that's how you know them. Professional calls enemies by codes and whatnot. Cutthroat can't shut up about Cadia.

I WATCHED MY WORLD BURN

[nocturne dust]

same as male seer

[brazen rampart]

Ok bro, I don't care.

[nocturne dust]

everyone has lines for when people steal medicae when high on

health

GOSH DANG KEYBOARD

[patent mango]

me wasting medicae (everyone else is full hp im not leaving it there)

[strong gulch]

I can do one

[weary idol]

it's not just high on health

it's if you're high health, and someone else isn't

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[strange jewel]

I really want to like this greatsword man

I just find the movement so asss

2 dodges and bro is already gasping for air

[nocturne dust]

Git gud 🤷‍♂️

Basically all you can do other than grabbing anticipation

[worn beacon]

How do you know if a guardsman is a cadian?
He won't shut up about it

[brazen rampart]

Then you need to get better at managing your dodges.

Fgs is the biggest skill curve weapon for most psykers for a reason.

[patent mango]

fgs always felt safer to me somehow

than 1 handed

only explanation is its an emotional support gs

or that its good

but the first is funnier

[brazen rampart]

Fgs feels safer to me because I can oneshot something with it much more easily than I can with a 1h force sword.

[worn beacon]

FGS feels safer because it finally makes melee psyker not insufferable to play without ds4

[patent mango]

ds4 meleeker is like

ok

feel like i can just play zealot then sadly

lmao

[worn beacon]

DS4 on psyker is either gunker carry or a self-defense weapon imho

[patent mango]

wha

i just saw a door kill 4 bulwarks

[strange jewel]

Whats fgs

Ah nvm thought it was a shortened version of a slur

[worn beacon]

flaming greatsword

[patent mango]

i think the mods would kill us

lmao

souls are essence...
atoma is full.....

[broken carbon]

at first glance i keep thinking it’s a slur too

[upper sun]

that was such a shitstomp

[patent mango]

dude i was just fricking around

[strong gulch]

We hardly took damage

[upper sun]

ggs i go try to sleep

ye

i had no keystone most of the game

[patent mango]

gg

lmao

there werenet even that many elites

[strong gulch]

I was just watching warudo push goobers into a corner

[upper sun]

ai director was eepy too

[patent mango]

i wanted to clip the funny but it broky

[upper sun]

idk how we managed the double poxbursters without dying

[patent mango]

i even did a peril explosion to kill that guy

i was spam pushing

[patent mango]

whar

[strong gulch]

best kill

[upper sun]

before the drop to the final event

[patent mango]

oh that guy

[upper sun]

you were bullying a pox burster then another one spawned

[patent mango]

that was hilarious

other dude "saved" the first

[upper sun]

they both blew up and no one got any damage somehow

[patent mango]

lmao

idk how they just decide to not explode

ig they were targeting som1 else

how is this only 10

[strong gulch]

I only thought to hit record after the silly pushing. 😭

@upper sun @patent mango

[patent mango]

funny

[strong gulch]

Mutie could have tossed me through the door so I could run to the ship early, but no.

[upper sun]

damn i missed both by like 1 frame

[upper sun]

some forbidden tech thats hard to pull off

if you know you're gonna get grabbed by a mutie jump so he grabs you mid air

[strong gulch]

Ye. So close to double boom.

[upper sun]

if he grabs you mid hair youll stay in the same spot

[strong gulch]

Whaaaaaa really?

How have I not know this?

[upper sun]

its really hard to get the timing right

maybe you can try it meatgrinder

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you know you're going to get grabbed by a mutie, dodge so you don't get grabbed

[strong gulch]

I thought he just weirdly put me down sometimes.

[nocturne dust]

[upper sun]

they have like some elevation calculation

[strong gulch]

Like he didn't want to really try.

[upper sun]

so they dont throw you into different levels

[strong gulch]

Inch res ting

What's needed on heavy sword??

[upper sun]

a zealot

[strong gulch]

psyker tho

[upper sun]

brutal headtaker flak maniac

[strong gulch]

kk

[upper sun]

idk about maniac tho psykers dont deal with ragers in melee

[strong gulch]

cara?

[upper sun]

nah its so ass it doesnt matter

prolly still maniac for muties

[strong gulch]

What if I have purg?

oh yeah muties

[upper sun]

id just go EP bb then for crushers

[strong gulch]

can't

must be purg, heavy sword, BB, CDR, SG, warp charges, UFS (unlucky for some)

no ep

slow BB it is

Hmm. pen flame maybe

This dangle is taking up a lot of the screen. lmao

[broken carbon]

this angle reminds me of

something.

[verbal thistle]

lol

[strong gulch]

can't unsee

[hardy delta]

at the first glance i thought its legs...

[strong gulch]

tickled to death

[strange jewel]

Best mark for great force sword?

[strong gulch]

Both are good.

pick the one you like

they are close enough damage wise that you pick the moveset that you like the most

[proper osprey]

Zealot chat leak

[autumn smelt]

do you have that one trinket where its just a singular finger

i think that would be a great idea

[strong gulch]

I don't

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/its-all-there-black-and-white-clear-as-crystal-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-its-written-there-black-and-white-you-should-be-read-it-before-gif-21443354

[proper osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859788468178386944/1066523867159466026/caption.gif

[brazen rampart]

Something jar related...

[broken carbon]

yeah

[strong gulch]

Fizzy lifting drinks at home.

[lone wing]

level 906 smyker in auric

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/good-day-sir-wonka-angry-gif-4938393

[azure parcel]

can any kind soul explain quell cancel tech to me, and how to do it on controller?

[jovial juniper]

Shoot>quell>shoot>quell

Just a little quick tap

Well that's for m1

[azure parcel]

what about holding down quell, wasn't there some input priority something

[azure parcel]

talking about voidblast staff, I heard quell cancel needs to be used to use it properly

[jovial juniper]

I didn't really got the Voidblast staff cancel yet

[azure parcel]

oh ok

I'm trying to qc voidblast secondary attack in psykhanium but I guess I'm doing it wrong, because I can't tell the difference

[nocturne dust]

Swap cancelling is faster but yes, you should be able to quell cancel VB.

[jovial juniper]

I was trying to find the VB quell cancel video but I guess the medal link has a deadline or something

Idk

Rat and someone else were talking about it or something

I don't remember much of the past

[azure parcel]

ok first of all, I have a hard time attack cancelling weapon chains, let's keep our expectations reasonable here

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I do h40 and auric just fine without any cancelling so

🤷‍♂️ Not like you need it

[azure parcel]

I see

Well that's a weight off my chest, guess I can technically outskill the need for it

[strong gulch]

It is not needed to quell cancel VB's RMB/ secondary, but it is a DPS boost. If you end up just canceling your blast tho, you're in for some hurt. It's also easier to explode.

But here's a video with it. 2:35 showcases trauma's charged/ RMB quell cancel.
https://youtu.be/zcINF72qAdY?si=Bz5i0Mj_TsiYQcmk&t=155

@azure parcel @jovial juniper ☝️

[torn kernel]

hi y'all i just wanna let you know that i've just blown myself up using a push attack because of warp unbound's shenanigans

AGAIN

[deft stump]

"Professional Gaymer moment."

[sturdy reef]

you can quell cancel VB faster if you hold RMB and double tap r

I think it might work on voidstrike too? doesnt really work for inferno and I havent tried EK

[late sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-jumping-gif-11470412868005123889

[fallen pier]

elo

in regards to Inferno staff, do I need to further upgrade this? We want little to no Warp Res yes?

does the same logic apply to Electro staff too?

[nocturne dust]

well, eh

Warp res is a problem for force swords

Not so for staves

While warp res is still the dump (outside of voidstrike), staves generate plenty of peril

Generally you only dump warp res because it doesn't do anything, and not because you want to generate more peril, on staves

[fallen pier]

so I'm fine with taking both Staves up to 500?

[nocturne dust]

Every staff (except Inferno with shriek) gets stronger with Empyric Resolve for a reason, time spent quelling is time not attacking

[nocturne dust]

You are, yes

[fallen pier]

Force Swords,,, also applies the Greatsword?

[late sapphire]

I'd take the inferno to 40 warp res, 80 all others

[nocturne dust]

Although you can try doing some extreme warp res dumping shenanigans with your staves, particularly Inferno which generates the least peril, but I wouldn't know the point

[late sapphire]

Easy to grab another and bring it to 500

[nocturne dust]

Any weapon with warp res dumps warp res (except Voidstrike)

Force swords you generally do want to dump warp res as much as possible because they don't really generate peril easily

but that's for a specific use case, it's not entirely useful or necessary

especially if you're on Scrier's.

[fallen pier]

damn I just took my greatsword to 500 prior to reading 😦

I thought it was a staves thing only

[prime elk]

it's not abig deal

it's nice, but nbd

[fallen pier]

aright gotcha

[nocturne dust]

Eh, I wouldn't bother keeping low warp res if your other stats are low

so it's very RNG dependent as well

[fallen pier]

mhhm yeah

[nocturne dust]

and, yeah, as Sirosky said, it's not really necessary. I don't have a single weapon below 500 that I regularly use.

[fallen pier]

aight ima take electro to 500

[nocturne dust]

and I got a really nice FGS with low warp res and high everything else on accident, so it's not like I don't have the thing

[fallen pier]

I'll look out for those in the future if ever

2nd FGS

[prime elk]

maybe if you really like the fgs and have a bunch of spare dockets, roll for one with ~30 warp res

[fallen pier]

oh yeah does melee psyker work? I kinda just want to play with the FGS a lot

[prime elk]

yes

melee psyker is very strong

[fallen pier]

oh really?

is there any build I can look for

ah wait lemme check the pins

[nocturne dust]

Melee psyker is alright

I wouldn't call them strong. They have damage, but survivability is more important when you're diving into melee and Psyker never has that

It's basically a "don't get hit" deal

[prime elk]

melee psyker is basically invincible so long as it's killing things

and the thing is, psyker is very good at killing things

[nocturne dust]

Guy named Overhead:

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-really-huh-gif-15522979

[deft stump]

Gets traumatised somehow.

[nocturne dust]

Even ignoring overheads, the moment you get smacked by a couple poxwalkers at the same time you implode into a pile of guts

If Melee Psyker is invincible, every other class must be Wukong

[deft stump]

5-6 hits without hp/toughness curios.

[prime elk]

imagine getting overheaded lmao

[nocturne dust]

assuming you're full

[prime elk]

even with the fgs's bad dodges, it's easy to avoid overheads in the vast majority of situations

not like other classes tank overheads that much better either

[deft stump]

Yes, was the point. How fast to down from full.

[nocturne dust]

True, except the game increasingly makes the vast majority of situations literally everything all at once

[fallen pier]

specific question FGS' wave has its independent dmg value right? and doesn't come from the attack that launches it?

[nocturne dust]

Shout and Book literally letting the whole team take overheads to the brain with 0 HP damage:

[fallen pier]

like there's no diff between a wave from a light attack and a heavy?

[nocturne dust]

The special has a melee and ranged, yes

[prime elk]

psyker's defensive capabilities have always been about utilizing the many defensive tools you have at your disposal to avoid dying

so as usual, up to the player

[nocturne dust]

The ranged is the same on light/heavy

the melee portion is not

[prime elk]

but game gives you a lot of options

[nocturne dust]

Si, senor

Tell me

[prime elk]

can't say i can confirm that

[nocturne dust]

what does melee psyker have

[prime elk]

since i don't play either often

[nocturne dust]

that the other classes do not

[deft stump]

I can. VoC spammer here.

You have gold, you laugh at 1 overhead.

[nocturne dust]

Yellow toughness lets you eat an overhead

Yeah

[prime elk]

force push and kinetic deflection on top of the normal counters to overheads like... dodging and... positioning?

[nocturne dust]

Force push is nothing

[prime elk]

huh?

oh wa it

[nocturne dust]

Like, it's single target

[prime elk]

you'er a mk6 user

that's why

[nocturne dust]

anything single I can destroy

[prime elk]

if you force push a 4 crusher blob, that's 25% of the crushers that are immediately not a threat

what else do you want lol

[nocturne dust]

Imagine being a mk8 user cuz you think force push is good 😭

[prime elk]

imagine not realizing how good force push is

😭

[nocturne dust]

to deal with the threat

[deft stump]

I dunno, they are kissing the floor because 2 ppl I play with use Trauma.

[prime elk]

i'm gonna be real, it takes a real concoction of bullshit for a good melee psyker to get overheaded

[nocturne dust]

So

literally every auric/Havoc

[prime elk]

nah

[nocturne dust]

where the game decides to throw all the things at you

[prime elk]

nah

[nocturne dust]

[prime elk]

play more zealot

you'll get better at melee

[nocturne dust]

I've literally clutched with zealot

on auric mael

Your point is invalid

[prime elk]

once? twice?

[nocturne dust]

Get outta here with your bad faith arguments

[prime elk]

if overheads are an issue, git gud

[nocturne dust]

A couple dozen times at least, m8

On thammer too

[prime elk]

then overheads should not be an issue

[nocturne dust]

I'm not saying they are an issue

[prime elk]

the slowest, most telegraphed attacks in the game

and you're complaining about them

[nocturne dust]

I'm not and I wasn't?

[deft stump]

The gunners though...

[nocturne dust]

wtf u on

[prime elk]

then what are you even bitching about

no class has issues dealing with overheads

melee psyker included

if you don't find them an issue with zealot

[nocturne dust]

You said melee psyker is 'invincible' but it should be blatantly clear they are not, especially by comparison to any other class

[prime elk]

but do with mlee psyker

simply play better

[prime elk]

as i indicated very clearly, terms and conditions apply to the invicibility

[nocturne dust]

Like, Vet literally gets 200 toughness in a lot of builds

[prime elk]

as with any other class

melee psyker is nowhere near as glass cannony as people think

[nocturne dust]

and that's before Iron Will and Shout

[prime elk]

actually, psyker in general

[nocturne dust]

Zealot literally gets to not die with Until Death

Ogryn can just spam heavy until the servers die

[prime elk]

yes... turns out each class has their own tools to stay alive

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but every other class has vastly stronger tools for it as long as you aren't in Havoc

and Havoc has... a balance. One of the balances of all time.

Like, yadda yadda, yes I'm good and can play all the things and blah blah I have experience and can dodge, etc. etc.. It's not about individual skill, it's about which class has better tools for survivability, and psyker is (reasonably) at the bottom

[prime elk]

[nocturne dust]

It's not a problem that psyker is on the bottom, but they are there.

And I feel like it's unfair to say they're not if you don't even play the other classes enough to know gold toughness lets you take an ogryn-sized hammer to the noggin.

[deft stump]

Even a heresy player knows.

[prime elk]

lol you know why i don't know this off the top of my head

because it hasn't come up for me in several hundred hours

so i simply don't remember

but yes typical psyker victim mentality here

perfectly at display

[balmy copper]

Best melee weapons for havoc?

[prime elk]

even if psyker got 300 toughness

you'll still have psyker mains how much of a glass cannon psyker is

last patch, psyker gets a 25% buff to base toughness

and what do we see in glorious #psyker-class? psyker mains complaining about psyker's "poor survivability"

[nocturne dust]

Me: "Psyker has the worst survivability and that's fine"
You: "Wow, typical victim mentality"

[prime elk]

as if you didn't spend the last 30 minutes whining about psyker survivability

[nocturne dust]

I didn't

[prime elk]

actions speak louder than words

[nocturne dust]

None of that was whining

Bruh

[wide maple]

Is there info on optimal set up for the greatsword somepalce?

[prime elk]

well in this case, more words > few words i guess?

[nocturne dust]

I am literally telling you to your face

it was not whining

[prime elk]

oh ok, since you said so, it must be true

[wispy bay]

Arguing over nothing, another night in darktide chat.

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-im-here-obi-wan-obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-gif-18535648

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[wide maple]

I'm just trying to find info on the greatsword

[prime elk]

uncanny + carapace, wrath + shred/riposte/unstable power

[nocturne dust]

Okay, if you're so confident it's whining, point to a single moment where I actually complained and said I wanted it to not be this way

You literally cannot

because I didn't whine.

[maiden oracle]

Greatsword is goated but I always got a different perk and blessing combination from everyone I see

[prime elk]

let's be real dude, the entire discussion has you been whining and moaning

[wispy bay]

Zealot chat is still off topic, vet is still math and orgryn is still coping.

[maiden oracle]

I think you didn’t mean to type uncanny

Flak?

[prime elk]

yes you're right

unyielding

[maiden oracle]

Got it

What

Unyielding carapace?

[prime elk]

fgs doesn't need flak

yeah

[maiden oracle]

Oh is it because of the wave attack

[nocturne dust]

Stop whining.

[prime elk]

ah yes, i'm whining abotu you whining now

that's fair

because i am

[wide maple]

[maiden oracle]

What’s wrath again

[nocturne dust]

Can't believe you're whining about things that didn't happen. Sad times we live in.

[maiden oracle]

Damage on multiple enemies hit with one swing?

[wide maple]

cleave on hit

[wispy bay]

Nah, it has high enough damage to kill flak enemies in 1-2 hits.

[maiden oracle]

Ah

[nocturne dust]

FGS has high damage, lower than one would like cleave

[maiden oracle]

How do I choose between shred/riposte/unstable

[prime elk]

personal preference

[maiden oracle]

Why is uncanny not a option

[nocturne dust]

Because Fatshark said so

🤷‍♂️

[prime elk]

personally i think shred or riposte are better options than unstable

[nocturne dust]

It has high enough damage on carapace that Uncanny isn't needed

[maiden oracle]

I’m not good at making choices what does each do compared to the other 2

[nocturne dust]

You can kill crushers in 3 hits with either mk

[wispy bay]

You can get uncanny on the normal force sword.

[prime elk]

because it helps with proccing EE, which is one of the stupid psyker survivability tools

[maiden oracle]

Do we bother doing push attack heavy thrust if it doesn’t kill

[wispy bay]

The Obscurus is somewhat close to the fgs.

[maiden oracle]

What’s ee again

[prime elk]

if you want an easy/brain off experience, just pick riposte

[maiden oracle]

Toughness on crit?

[prime elk]

and take empathic evasion

which makes you immune to ranged damage for 1s on crit

[nocturne dust]

Shred and Riposte are the same but different. The end result is the same, more crit, but Shred needs you to not miss and Riposte needs the enemy to try and attack you

[maiden oracle]

I don’t remember the numbers does riposte or shred give higher crit chance

[nocturne dust]

They're the same chance

[prime elk]

they're the same crit chance technically

[maiden oracle]

Got it

[nocturne dust]

20% at max

[maiden oracle]

Riposte only affects the next attack after a dodge right

[nocturne dust]

if you're mk8

[prime elk]

shred boosts up per hit to 20, riposte gives 6s of 20% crit on dodge

[nocturne dust]

but mk6 is my preference

[maiden oracle]

Oh o

I don’t remember my mark lol

[wide maple]

Is there a build yall recommend for the greatsword? I just kinda slotted it into my voidstrike crit build

[prime elk]

you can switch anyway

[maiden oracle]

All I remember is fgs scriers dbs

[nocturne dust]

I mean, FGS is a general weapon

it excels at most things reasonably well

[prime elk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da95bc2-c968-4cd9-9b57-b0d4ef08d341/fgs

[nocturne dust]

so you can take it with anything

[wispy bay]

Fgs works with everything because it is so good.

[nocturne dust]

but if you want a FGS-centric build, just standard meleeker will do

[wispy bay]

Though, I like normal force swords more.

[nocturne dust]

I can't believe I have to kill you for heresy now 😔

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1321371717599367198/Greatsword_Elmo.gif

Embrace Big Sword

Love Big Sword

Cherish Big Sword

Forfeit all Mortal Possessions to Big Sword

[fathom adder]

But which big sword 🤔

[nocturne dust]

Don't start

[zinc wedge]

How I deadass watch as

The daemonhost wakes up

And targets me even though I was not anywhere near it

[prime elk]

a lot of things trigger DH, you don't need to be near it

if i see a super triggered DH, i fall back and clear out enemies first, and then walk past it without doing anything else

[plucky flax]

Zealot mk2

[nocturne dust]

They made a mk2 Zealot?

Bigger book?

[wispy bay]

Yes, it is a blitz instead of the ability slot.

[fathom adder]

Mk10 actually

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn big sword when

[plucky flax]

Noooooo the upper cut funny

[torn kernel]

does IFR get fucked up by soulblaze ownership

[nocturne dust]

IFR?

oh

In Fire Reborn

No

In Fire Reborn and Souldrinker ignore ownership

meaning any soulblaze counts

[torn kernel]

[zinc wedge]

Me watching as the

20 ragers and 5 maulers come for my ass

(My team is fighting poxies)

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/rico-madagascar-kaboom-gif-19880027

Me with Trauma

[deft stump]

But easier to use reeeeeeeeeeee

[deft stump]

Double book go!

[radiant frigate]

can zealot read from the book to stun nearby enemies while their faith bar slowly goes up

[plucky flax]

I can attempt havoc 40 soon after coffee 2 more people?

[deft stump]

I'm out. On phone rn.

[plucky flax]

Okay rip

It's joeover

[deft stump]

Also eepy. Was pushed out with like 1 hour nap.

At best, I'll be home in an hour.

But not sure if I can really do it. Eepy h40 might be very sus, even on zealot.

[plucky flax]

I go jog then food shopping later

[deft stump]

Run h40 at my night might be safer lul.

[plucky flax]

Will be night time for u yeah when it's afternoon me

[deft stump]

Yep, so usual times.

Is 4:03pm rn.

[paper dust]

@deft stump o great fluffer keeper i request thee a pint of the mischeveous creature update

[zinc wedge]

I thinned it down to

3 ragers and 6 maulers

With my devil's claw

The 6th mauler came late

[nocturne dust]

Your first mistake was using the Claw

[lone wing]

nah claw is goated

[nocturne dust]

The last time someone said that to me in-game they tried to prove how cool the Claw was and died instantly to an overhead.

[wispy bay]

I still go claw in my havoc vet build.

[lone wing]

they were bad at the game

[wispy bay]

Parrying overhead is the last resort.

[nocturne dust]

No, just overconfident in a trash weapon

(I'm exaggerating)

[lone wing]

it can one shot crushers (on zealot)

[nocturne dust]

Tell me when it can do that without a crit and without parry

[lone wing]

parry is it's main mechanic smh

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but it should be more than a dumpsterfire without it.

[plucky flax]

Bro called it quit after 1 bad game

Just like me fr

[radiant frigate]

understandable

[deft stump]

I am out. Lil sis bday lunch something.

[deft stump]

Wot.

[plucky flax]

He didn't play well in the map died a few times then declared quit for the day and it's only morning.

Veri sad time

[deft stump]

Ah. People have bad days/run.

[plucky flax]

Like me yesterday

Got trapped by every net

[nocturne dust]

Morning? It's past midnight

[wispy bay]

Careful, they might get strap-on.

[plucky flax]

Eu server superiority

[deft stump]

Got Cladded, I see.

[nocturne dust]

[fallen pier]

I read Psyker originally had exclusive access to DS

[nocturne dust]

yes

[fallen pier]

does this mean you get a pass for using DS on Psyker

[nocturne dust]

I mean, people will call you out for literally anything

Do what you want, not what they want

🤷‍♂️

[fallen pier]

I haven't touched it

I saw the light on using Combat Knife/Blade

and I needed to use something else to not get used to its zoomy movement

ive been using FGS, I like the sword wave but damn do I wanna zoomy

[nocturne dust]

Knife is the fastest weapon

Nothing will compare

At best, you can try stacking Psyker speed buffs to occasionally get that high speed rush, but Psyker has a lot of trouble keeping it up consistently with a lot of weapons

[fallen pier]

[nocturne dust]

Zealot is more easily able to be consistently fast

[fallen pier]

it was my first class to 30, longest ive been to as well

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's the Zealot playstyle

Psyker just mimics it better than Vet and Ogryn

Dueling sword is close in speed tho, but like... I wouldn't recommend dueling sword for a melee/speed build because it's much more suited to being a staff sidearm. It works in a melee build, of course, but it's a very boring weapon imo.

[fallen pier]

it doesnt have style for me, so don't think I will anyway

https://tenor.com/view/poke-boop-gif-23650611

this is what I see basically

[nocturne dust]

Funny, I think the stabby stick has some of the most style

100% the Commissar fantasy of running at enemies and hitting them with your sword

[deft stump]

Poke poke poke poke poke.

[fallen pier]

https://tenor.com/view/butterfly-knife-gradient-animation-gif-21937827

dis what Knife feels to me

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hood-men-in-tights-be-prepared-prepare-fight-gif-6913535062416405131

[plucky flax]

If you're good with a knife you're unkillable. Extremely ratty behaviour

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-knife-running-with-knives-gif-13862209

[fallen pier]

stabby stick def has that "poise" and elegance.

[fallen pier]

me when I run into a crowd then get hit by an overhead

cuz I tunnel vision'd

[deft stump]

Shank stuff, stab stab stab slash slash slash.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sienna-kerillian-vermintide-rat-gif-23310770

Imagine stabbing with knife

I just use knife to reposition for more staff

[plucky flax]

Rat zealot most op build for clutching

[fallen pier]

the knife stabs are definitely making me feel good, compared to stabby stick

https://tenor.com/view/happy-halloween-halloween-knife-stab-slashing-gif-15612596

[nocturne dust]

I find the most satisfying melee to be thammer

FGS is close but... the noise of the sword hitting things feels wrong

[fallen pier]

I've been trying to make it happen on Zealot for so long

I like Bonk weapons

but I like zoomy movement more apparently

also the activate > cleave feels jank to me

[nocturne dust]

activate cleave?

[fallen pier]

but yeah, trying to learn more Pysker atm.

Thunderdome melee

[fallen pier]

when you activate the THammer then light attack, for horde clearing

[nocturne dust]

[fallen pier]

like Evis on zealot

[nocturne dust]

I don't do that

Wat

[deft stump]

Both gud.

[nocturne dust]

Which mk is this?

[fallen pier]

something about Evis only cleaving 4 enemies on lights but activate increases it? 🤔

[nocturne dust]

Evis activates for horde, yes

but thammer

[fallen pier]

not sure if Ironhelm or Crucis(?)

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmmm, I use the Crucis and that doesn't

If you try to activate you can only hit 2 guys at most, it cleaves only 1

It's specifically single target

[fallen pier]

for sure

I do love chunking monstrosities

[paper dust]

tell her some rando saif happery bird day

[wispy bay]

If you want something with decent clearing and still have activation for single target, use the crusher power club.

One of the stronger zealot melee.

[fallen pier]

doesn't look tight though

[nocturne dust]

Thammer has decent clearing

Just heavy until they're dead, the stagger does the rest

[torn kernel]

should i drop bb +kf for smite

[nocturne dust]

The old Kruber warhammer way

[torn kernel]

on an ek shriek build

i need the extra point

[fallen pier]

its kinda weird we dont have shield weapons in the game

aside from slab

from ogryns

[nocturne dust]

no

[torn kernel]

deflector on force swords

[nocturne dust]

I mean on EK shriek I run warp battery and not KF

[torn kernel]

yea lol i want warp battery

ig i can keep bb for annoying snipers or somethin and just drop kf

[nocturne dust]

but like

I wouldn't drop BB and KF for smite

[marble crater]

Smite bad

[nocturne dust]

I'd do it for battery and take smite because BB is useless

[torn kernel]

that's my plan lol

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-starwars-star-wars-emperor-gif-7513769

[torn kernel]

i'm like

not gonna use smite like ever anyway

[nocturne dust]

Pretty much

Smite is there to look pretty and thematically fit with the lightning build

I use smite as much as I use BB on EK (never)

[torn kernel]

oh actually how's EE for EK

[nocturne dust]

Eh

I mean you can go for it

I wouldn't, it's not like Inferno or Vraks/Recon good, and there's a lot of other nodes to go for

[torn kernel]

takes less than a second to charge anyway with flurry

fair

[nocturne dust]

True, but then it also has to crit

which is easier on EK, but still not worth it imo since you can always just slide

[torn kernel]

fair

i'll give 6wc a shot

could swap if if find myself shrieking faster than i get the extra charges i suppose

[nocturne dust]

I don't think it's better than KF necessarily

It's just different (and comes with the added bonus of no KF procs on bursters by accident)

[torn kernel]

lmao yeah that happened way too many times

do you usually use flak crit or flak maniac on EK?

[nocturne dust]

....I think flak and unyielding?

I actually switched to carapace and unyielding tho

but that's personal preference

[marble crater]

I use flak and maniac, because those specials need to die

[torn kernel]

oh does unyielding hit bulwark bps or is it just for monstrosities?

[nocturne dust]

I use carapace and unyielding cuz I want the big things to die faster, the small things take only a couple hits anyway 🤷‍♂️

[plucky flax]

Same I copy some unsanctioned guy's surge build.

[nocturne dust]

yep, 3 hits on Ogryns with perfect timing

Reapers too

[torn kernel]

fair

[marble crater]

Flak and Elite is also nice for funny one shots