psyker-class

[summer prairie]

well, only Surety of Arms uses it

[modest patrol]

What about people who frequent both psyker & zealot chat like some kind of strange hybrid being?

[marble crater]

But some people don't like it because it's unreliable with preventing the explosion

[upper galleon]

@fluid forge

[marble crater]

Because he couldn't send it in zealot chat

[brazen burrow]

Sorry guys, here is my build (I have NOT updated the weapons or curios):
Can you please comment on it?

[fluid forge]

blessed tho

[brazen burrow]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e162a04-b844-4703-9141-f22de5471bbb/testbuild

see above please
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e162a04-b844-4703-9141-f22de5471bbb/testbuild

[warped perch]

You are blessed

With my presence

[fluid forge]

this is why I keep my potatoes in a maximum security deposit box

[pure dragon]

Very cool

[thorn cedar]

me stepping onto an international flight for the second time today because i forgot my potatoes at the terminal in geneva

[marble crater]

I will send a picture of what I would change and then people will comment on how I am a noob and give you a better build, one sec

[plucky flax]

^noob

[marble crater]

Now we wait

[patent mango]

remove cruel fortune so you can get mind in motion (mandatory talent)

[marble crater]

[brazen burrow]

When picking Assail, why would you ever NOT pick the Ethereal Shards talent? (the one that pierces an extra target!?)

[lone wing]

mind in motion is not mandatory

[lone wing]

warp splitting does that but better

[patent mango]

mind in motion is really strong when it does the uhhh the thing it does maybe

whatever it is

[haughty star]

This

Only one worth is quick shards

[granite mauve]

psyker remembers he can use his legs

[brazen burrow]

but why not both??

[lone wing]

you go from 2 to 4 with warp splitting
and 4 to 6 with both

[autumn lark]

yknow not a bad build actualy

[haughty star]

More points for useful things

[lone wing]

you do not need both

it already fucks incredibly hard

[autumn lark]

its in the right direction

but its there

[lone wing]

then with that build warp unbound you can spam assail at 100% peril and be fine

[autumn lark]

unless you get the bug

[lone wing]

40 max targets assuming no carapace is already very strong

[brazen burrow]

what are the 3 methods?

[lone wing]

just dont use peril at 99%

[summer prairie]

just various possible combinations

[autumn lark]

vodka does the fit go hard?

[lone wing]

incredibly

[brazen burrow]

why did you take Periouls Combusiton inthe first row? I intentionally skipped Soulblaze because I am not going all-in on Soulblaze?

[pure dragon]

What blessing+perks would you use on bfg for a melee assail psyker? Warp splitting I see above

I think I'm using the mk8?

[haughty star]

Id trade warp expenditure for perilous and the one random extra node for perfect timing

[pure dragon]

I can't remember

[haughty star]

Wrath and unstable

[marble crater]

Because I think it's always good to have, unless you intentionally want to avoid it because you have an inferno staff psyker

[haughty star]

It is really

[autumn lark]

ill show you my build give me a second

[pure dragon]

Thank you! I'm guessing flak+cara?

[summer prairie]

It's mediocre without other SB sources, I guess it can help your teammates

[marble crater]

You can kill two or three elites and everything around them will die to soulblaze

[lone wing]

soulblaze stacks very well

[haughty star]

Whatever you want. I do carayielding

[lone wing]

2-3 stacks will kill trash and weaker elites

[summer prairie]

it's like 45k extra damage when you are doing 1+m

[prime elk]

PC isn't a must have if you're not investing in soul blaze

The damage is pretty pathetic if you just take PC by itself

[haughty star]

5 percent overall damage is still pretty goated

[brazen burrow]

well, others seem to disagree.. I think I might try it.

[prime elk]

And it's usually on shit you're about to imminently kill

[lone wing]

false

siro you're 0-3 today come on

[thorn cedar]

its a force multiplier for when shit gets real

[haughty star]

And it's not what it does its when it does it. It weakens rsger packs, allows you to single out elites and specialist and just blatantly ignore trash lol

[prime elk]

Flip that around and you'd be correct

[lone wing]

nah lol

[prime elk]

If there are others that are running SB maybe

[lone wing]

you've made a fool of yourself by being blatantly incorrect multiple times today

[prime elk]

False

[prime elk]

Next you'll depict me as a wojack

[maiden oracle]

siro do you want to play league with me

[autumn lark]

i just realized i cant get empathic evasion cause of how i built my psyker

[marble crater]

Wojack?

[lone wing]

[brazen burrow]

Can someone explain this chart?
How exactly does this chart show that WS + ES is a "waste"
What is EP?

[summer prairie]

empowered psionics

[pure dragon]

Empowered psyionics

[lone wing]

some ifunny thing dw about it. proving my point

[pure dragon]

Oh I spelled that wrong

[summer prairie]

it doesn't show that it's a waste, but quicker assail charge time is way better

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[autumn lark]

i just realized my staff has brittleness 3 what the fuck lmao @brazen burrow

[marble crater]

Quicker assail charging would also depend on how much you use assail I guess, so you can test it with and without

[autumn lark]

the qurio you copy 3 times

[prime elk]

Anticipate getting 4-5 percent extra damage. Whether or not that's worth it is up to you.

[lone wing]

health over toughness?

[autumn lark]

yeah to soak up damage

otherwise my psyker has really really low health

[warped perch]

[lone wing]

[zinc phoenix]

imo its worth souping up assail purely for the malding

[brazen burrow]

It seems you're skipping multiple talents in the first row? I am a noob player... so I like to get toughness? Is your build a high skill-floor build?

[zinc phoenix]

people get really mad when you pop knives and clear every baddie in the zip code

[autumn lark]

pretty skilled yeah

but also you use precognition to activate mettle for toughness gain quickly

[late sapphire]

to 5 not 6

[zinc phoenix]

anticipation is a weird pick

[lone wing]

upgrade nodes makes it 3
warp splitting doubles it

[autumn lark]

i like it

gives me far dodges and 5 dodges on force greatsword

[late sapphire]

nah

[lone wing]

that's uh, that's how the buffs stack lol

[brazen burrow]

I am sorry, I dont understand this interaction, can you plz explain?

[autumn lark]

ok so

[zinc phoenix]

that is actually a solid point

[late sapphire]

I can boot it up right now and it'll hit 5

[autumn lark]

mettle gives 5% toughness on critical hits

[zinc phoenix]

i dont generally feel the need for extra dodgy on fgs

but it might benice

[autumn lark]

precognition gives you 20% crit chance when you dodge an attack

[prime elk]

Do you really need all that. And for 2 points

[autumn lark]

so you get crits alot more whilst gaining toughness

[broken carbon]

wrong

[lone wing]

they have 2 pierce by default

[broken carbon]

that’s riposte

precog is finesse

[prime elk]

Yeah precog is the 60? percent finesse damage

[autumn lark]

i am dumb

[zinc phoenix]

crack with unstable is questionable

[autumn lark]

@brazen burrow use riposte to get 20% crit chance which procs mettle which gives 5% toughness per critical hit which can be multiple enemies

[late sapphire]

No amount of rationalisation will make it 6 rather than 5 idk what to tell you

[zinc phoenix]

oh this is an auric build

[lone wing]

assuming you're at 100% peril, 2-4-6 taking warp splitting first
2-3-6 if you take ethereal first

[brazen burrow]

but thats not what the talent says? it says something about "counting 1s in gaze and finess damage"

[lone wing]

this is how math works

[broken carbon]

(2 + 1) x 2

[autumn lark]

i mispoke

its riposte

[lone wing]

like bruh

[patent mango]

so hecking conchfusing buh!!!!!

[autumn lark]

if i want max unstable instantly ill just pop scrier

[brazen burrow]

So would you still take precog?

[autumn lark]

nah

[late sapphire]

I know how math works

[autumn lark]

just follow the sword unstable riposte

[late sapphire]

I am telling you

I am in the psykhanium RIGHT NOW

[brazen burrow]

Also, where is riposte talent? I dont see it

[autumn lark]

i thought precognition was 20% crit chance instead of riposte

[late sapphire]

Throwing the shard

And it is hitting FIVE enemies

FIVE not SIX

[zinc phoenix]

me too! do math == be nerd

thats math for ya

[marble crater]

It's a blessing

[late sapphire]

I do not CARE how stupid it is that (2+1)x2 = 5

But it is!

[broken carbon]

hrmmm

odd

[zinc phoenix]

it'd be funny if it was actually 5.9

[summer prairie]

"attack_modifier = max_hit_mass_attack_modifier + psyker_smite_max_hit_mass_attack_modifier" (the first is warp splitting, the second is ethereal shards). So additive

[autumn lark]

dont try to figure out how my build works

[zinc phoenix]

because it'd be 2 * 0.99 for peril or something

[autumn lark]

it works for me

and thas the good thing

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/works-on-my-machine-ryan-gosling-works-on-my-gif-24523830

[brazen burrow]

why did you take Perfectionism? It implies that you are using Assail for horde clear?

[broken carbon]

this is why ur hard stuck havoc 25 lil bro….

[late sapphire]

2x2+1 = 5

there we have it fellas

[autumn lark]

nah the disrupt destiny stacks degrade and i juice it up by prioritizing glowing enemies

[lone wing]

that just means it stacks even worse and taking warpsplitting is still better than etheral

[late sapphire]

You are moving the goalposts

[autumn lark]

i barely use assail and its a pretty bad habit of mine

[lone wing]

fatshark what the fuck is this

[lone wing]

no im conceding

[late sapphire]

Das rite

[lone wing]

fucking hell

[late sapphire]

hahaha

[lone wing]

fatshark you have some explaining to do why the FUCK does it not stack as advertised

[late sapphire]

Actually it's exactly as advertised

+1 hit, always and forever

[lone wing]

mf

[late sapphire]

It doesn't say +1 cleave

[brazen burrow]

So if you take Disrupt Destiny, you are basically always trying to keep the max stacks up?

[late sapphire]

yes

[lone wing]

more or less

higher diffs is easier to keep stacks up

[autumn lark]

the stacks are passive for me so i dont go out of my way to keep it topped up

[brazen burrow]

Does the Lingering Influence talent extends the DD blue glow on the enemies? so you have longer to kill them?

[buoyant maple]

first time?

[lone wing]

what is this

why are they hidden in first person

GAME

WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS

[pure dragon]

Maybe they unplugged them?

[autumn lark]

no it just makes it so the a stack lasts 10 seconds as opposed to 4

[narrow herald]

Deez nutts 🔩

[lone wing]

i've been recently finessed into using perfectionism so im one of those now

played long enough i dont need lingering

[jovial juniper]

Another Perfectionism enjoyer

We are taking over

(we aren't)

[brazen burrow]

Guys, what are your thoughts on "By Crack of Bone talent" Melee Weakspot Kills Quell 5% Peril and Reduce further Peril Generation by 20% for 4s."

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/bVZSx.gif

[autumn lark]

cant wait to drip out my psyker tomorrow

[autumn lark]

extremely good with force greatsword

[zinc phoenix]

depends

[jovial juniper]

The coat looks decent
The armor is funny

[zinc phoenix]

if you are running a perma 0 peril crack of bone is very good

if you are running a bunch of talents that expect 100 peril to maximally perform crack is very bad

so for instance if you want to run warp rider, warp splitting, unstable? crack is going to not help you

[lone wing]

i love doing dumbshit in here

[autumn lark]

i actualy know why i use crack of bone

to delay scrier from reaching 30 in a horde

[lone wing]

crack of bone is good for those builds
i would know i uh, use exclusively high peril builds

[pure dragon]

It's also got a pretty metal name for a talent

Same with tranquility through slaughter

Both sound like metal bands

[sturdy reef]

I only run it on my melee psyker build since I want to make more use of warp splitting

on other builds

[jovial juniper]

Slaughter to prevail

[sturdy reef]

and warp rider

[brazen burrow]

What is the range on Assail?

[autumn lark]

100 metres+

[tepid python]

me on my 4th assail heavy against one (1) sniper perched up where we entered a room (he kills everyone)

[summer prairie]

BB is 100m

[hollow current]

I'd take it if I had 31 points. But it's good if you want to melee a horde to get the max Scriers buff and then assail all over everything else that's soft when you get 100% with warp unbound.

[zinc phoenix]

if you are trying to keep max peril it is not helpful given how much it can quell in a very short amount of time

if you like it anyway thats fine

but you are working against yourself

i prefer to not take the high peril traits when going with a crack/sg melee and build around it

[hollow current]

40m on left clicks and 60m on right clicks iirc.

[lone wing]

and this is why i take assail and weave

[hollow current]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-president-trump-white-house-press-conference-dance-dancing-gif-7808989

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️ that doesnt generate much peril when compared to how much crack quells with wrath/warp splitting

[lone wing]

it does enough that i regularly outdamage ds4 zealots

[zinc phoenix]

like, crack can enable you to maintain perma zero peril with sg for literal minutes

[zinc phoenix]

this isnt a relevant metric

[lone wing]

it is lol

for me anyway

[zinc phoenix]

i can outdamage entire teams by just holding right click with purgatus

wowee

[lone wing]

purge is also boring

[zinc phoenix]

the relevant comparison is the build to itself

[verbal thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1312197970263015446/1332187911097155674/Clip_-_1232025_71712_PM.mp4?ex=679b986c&is=679a46ec&hm=1c2f2c318f45dbb4627291d3efbe226ef2656bbc7c79f8ddfe0eea35a7c62ba0& @hollow current

[blissful solar]

friendly skaven

[hollow current]

have you heard about our lord and savior THE GREAT HORNED RAT?

https://tenor.com/view/great-horned-rat-gif-25718172

[verbal thistle]

I mean, they are plague zealots

[autumn lark]

hows it going playing vt2 with cole

[verbal thistle]

we've only played twice

but fine

he's learning alot

but he gets annoyed easily

[lone wing]

Despereaux lookin ass

[tepid python]

need

fat shark take my money

[hollow current]

I'm going to summon a daemonhost on board if there's no GFS skin.

[autumn lark]

i hope so its tomorrow

[tepid python]

when the hoarfrost hits my screen but i got the winter drip on

[tepid python]

shits gonna be insta styled w every mf wearing it pmo fr

[marble crater]

There is one, as far as I saw

Looks pretty nice too

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, is neat

[buoyant maple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1185515538475134998/1333463534721437829/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_Screenshot_2025.01.27_-_10.38.40.99.png?ex=679b9f31&is=679a4db1&hm=6e501f2099556ac1a486dbf85fff3aaffd1fc6dababa28c7849ae50f55536dd7&

[autumn lark]

No relic blade tho

[upper sun]

@brazen rampart imagine the gas this build would be

just 4 more points to kino.....

[nocturne dust]

Get point taxed, idiot

[prime elk]

Just drop twbs. And why take the martyrdom cd node

[nocturne dust]

Stun immunity is such QoL tho

wish it was Zealot's passive

[prime elk]

True some weapons really want it

Tbf with martyr attack speed its prob ok to run without twbs on most weapons

[radiant frigate]

is this real

[buoyant maple]

Yea it should be coming out tmr

[radiant frigate]

huge if true

[upper sun]

its gonna be buffed

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[upper sun]

same

[prime elk]

Zealot tree rework when

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[patent mango]

full game rework

[upper sun]

tfw no excise vault

the game mode is up

anyone up for a 123evegege maelstrom?

[lone wing]

i would but im getting on vrchat for a bit. got a couple of friends i haven't seen in a while

[jovial juniper]

Working overtime today, sorree

[vernal temple]

I am so close

[deft stump]

Friend challenged my high score in 20 mins till dawn. So AFKing in it with trigger held for longer cos I have an AFK BatGun build.

[deft stump]

I forgot how much lag that build has lmao.

10 IRL secs for 1 in round sec lmao.

[marble crater]

I was in a mission

Will do Gloriana maelstrom now though, it's an easy one

[upper sun]

still wanna do one?

[plucky flax]

Nein.

[eager jackal]

Should I use 13% warp resist Inferno staff if I take bubble into Havoc 40? Or that's good only for venting shriek?

[idle aurora]

I mean, if you don't forget to tap the r button, ur damage & toughness gain will be great during horde spray with all the crits and peril gen

[autumn lark]

just consecrate it to 60

[idle aurora]

Btw, is it still possible to roll 0 warp res with 80 in everything else from brunt?

[earnest sand]

I had a fgs do that but had to upgrade still but did have 0 warp res and 80 most. I would assume so if super lucky

[upper sun]

yeah its possible

is it gonna happen? no

[idle aurora]

Well, i sit at 21 mil dockets, time to hit the auto buy mod

[pure dragon]

Do psykers not upgrade their staffs to 500?

[prime elk]

Usually. FGS is different

[earnest sand]

We like to edge 😉 low warp resists on weps

[pure dragon]

I have a 230 fgs with 60 max warp res (not sure where the min is at). Does upgrading rating not increase damage output?

[prime elk]

If your damage stat isn't capped out it'll go up

The weapon should display a current value for each stat and a max potential value

[idle aurora]

Purgatus with really low warp resistance is legit great, but gotta learn that r tapping at high peril, otherwise caboom

[pure dragon]

I don't think my brain will allow me to not upgrade a weapon to 500

[marble crater]

[idle aurora]

Same i had one purg with 40 res and 80 on everything, but monke want bigger number, so i upgraded and regretted. Now i want to go the opposite, get 0 warp res with 80 everywhere

[dark swift]

Anyone else stuck with this?

[marble crater]

Yes, everyone

[pure dragon]

They forgot a perk

[hollow current]

[upper sun]

easiest way to fix this is to add a blessing

[prime elk]

Just you

[pure dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

[marble crater]

@upper sun you are the forum pro, is there a thread for hot fix feedback about the crashes?

[idle aurora]

I legit would like a blessing on surge that goes something like: targets 1 enemy instead of 2, but does increased damage

[dark swift]

1. Apply for Job at Fatshark
2. Pass Interview and get accepted
3. Fix Electrokinetic Force staff Mastery bug by adding blessing to the list
4. Submit resignation
5. Go home and enjoy the game

[upper sun]

idk

make it

[marble crater]

No, guess I will write Strawhat a DM

Not a single crash since the hot fix, it's so nice

[paper dust]

YESSS YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

https://tenor.com/view/yes-street-fighter-gif-14106450

[patent mango]

anyone on tide game hammer war tide hammer tide dark war hammer 40k 40k war war hamemr tide gmammmmm mgfkvcxfk vfmkcxvm?

[near gale]

Meet the new deputy

[paper dust]

||i wont make a psycher christmas tree version||

[analog agate]

Difference between a WR 60 fgs and 32 is 7.8% peril fyi. Definitely not worth trying for a low one

[near gale]

||I don't blame you in the least bit||

[paper dust]

||i am in enough trouble as it is sadly||

[warped perch]

Ferrets can’t be deputies

[warped perch]

Hello wolfy

[near gale]

And stans can't eat tacos right. Your point?

[paper dust]

oh ok taco stan migrated here

[warped perch]

[paper dust]

time to quarantine

[pure dragon]

What about for the inferno staff? I have a max 60 warp res that's 400 rating. I don't remember the current. I think it's like 30 something

[warped perch]

Wolfy no

[warped perch]

You spelled brain wrong in your bio

[paper dust]

why did you even check my bio

[warped perch]

Because

I wanted to protect you from malware

[minor wedge]

God i love zealots

Heresy, High int brutes auric

guy SPRINTS ahead

collects a grim

dies

blames the team

leaves

[patent mango]

drew all my talent trees from memory

[upper sun]

mid

[patent mango]

lmao

[marble crater]

Zealot, ogryn, psyker, vet?

[patent mango]

ye

[marble crater]

[patent mango]

you can see i have 0 idea what happens in the vet tree

[marble crater]

Mine look the same, I don't judge vet trees

[patent mango]

lmao

my zealot doesnt even lookk like marty but its meant to be marty

[marble crater]

Zealot that decided on marty keystone at the last second

[gloomy gazelle]

Brothers, why is pskyer leveling so bad what do I not understand about the ways of space wizardry.

[jovial juniper]

You need at least 21 levels

[gloomy gazelle]

Understood.

[jovial juniper]

21 is enough to beeline towards a keystone iirc

[gloomy gazelle]

I want to be able to switch between psyker and zealot and early pskyer is much more.. grindy.

[patent mango]

just assail everything during leveling lmaooooooo

[gloomy gazelle]

assail is very boring x.x

[jovial juniper]

And it'll carry your early levels

Unless a boss or carapace shows up

[marble crater]

Early psyker is a pain, use a gun, use assail. If you already have mastery for weapons from playing zealot use those until you are higher level and your staves become usable

After assail go left to unlock venting shriek

[paper dust]

mastery gun on zealot
melee on vet

etc

[gloomy gazelle]

Venting shriek is when I yell at my co-workers

[marble crater]

Co-workers, heretics, same thing

[gloomy gazelle]

Emperor be praised

[still valve]

What’s going on my psyker sigmas

[jovial juniper]

Waiting for FS to fix Penetration Of The Soul

[still valve]

Where would one find this ‘penetration of the soul’ for research purposes of course

[jovial juniper]

Bottom left side, above Warp Syphon

[marble crater]

They need to fix voidblast first, radius is too small

[feral carbon]

rate personal psyker build (heavily inspired by other inferno staff builds and tanner lindbergs inferno staff build on YT)
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e168839-b389-4fb3-a751-470db567bcf7/heavily-inspired-mk6-greatsword-inferno-staff-shield-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[prime elk]

Tanner 💀

You should take PC

Instead of BM

Prob don't need six charges either

[feral carbon]

my brain is too thin to understand acronyms, pls explain

and your probably right about the six charges thing now that i think about it

[prime elk]

Perilous Combustion is an important talent

For soulblaze

So take that instead of battle meditation

The fact is that purg peril gen is very low so BM doesn’t do much

Also not having attack speed on FGS kinda sucks ngl

Strongly recommend taking attack speed if you can

[feral carbon]

yeah, but having trouble getting the extra 2 points for it, iv got one after getting rid of the six charges and swapping meditation for combustion

[fringe garden]

Man, decided to warm up with an Auric Heresy today and ended up 2 manning Clandestium Gloriana with my Psyker and an Ogryn. That was great fun

[prime elk]

Drop essence harvest

It's not very good anyway

You already have very good toughness regen

[feral carbon]

cant figure out what to give up to get the 1 extra point needed for attack speed, gonna keep 6 charges for extra damage on full charges
essence harvest is personally very good because its just constant 30% toughmess regen if im not able to do anything

bit more cushioning in case of a bad situation

[prime elk]

It's only for 5s after you gain a warp charge

Soulstealer quietude and shield already got you

[feral carbon]

oh, its not for the entirety of the warp charges duration?

[narrow herald]

Tanner

[prime elk]

No that'd be crazy lol

[prime elk]

He's infecting the psykers too

[feral carbon]

but fire reborn would almost constantly reset that 5s timer, especially when dealing with hordes

[narrow herald]

First Vet, now Psyker 😔

[wind spruce]

@strong gulch spin the wheel for me?

[near gale]

Is that better or worse than the twins hard mode we did the other day? lol

[narrow herald]

There also isn't anything unique about his build, it's just the default warp flamer build

[prime elk]

Take it if you want but it's really overkill on your build

[wind spruce]

It wouldn't really, it pretty much has permanent uptime in combat anyway and is still incredibly mediocre

[narrow herald]

Nah I was chilling on the twins

[prime elk]

With a few bad picks but yes

[feral carbon]

does he have contentious opinions within the community, i could tell that he was a bit rough/callous with how he explained some of the blitzes and talents he didn't like or think was good

[wind spruce]

Essence harvest is just pure dogshit because 6% regen per second is nothing

[prime elk]

He's a racist and he's wrong half the time. In addition to what you said so yeah

[narrow herald]

He got banned from this server for racism, and he tried to poison a mod's reputation

[prime elk]

True. Not particularly great even when up

[near gale]

He is so hard headed he blatantly ignored information, even when it was proven and shown to him. Not to mention other stuff...

[feral carbon]

oh

[narrow herald]

Also his takes are pretty ass at times, like he doesn't understand how finesse works

[buoyant maple]

I do

[feral carbon]

i know that finesse is pretty important

and thats about it

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/elijah-wood-hobbit-its-some-sort-gif-12360932

[narrow herald]

If you want my flamer build in Havocs, then: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da782a8-435c-461a-9de7-e972aa78d0da/psyker-havoc-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[near gale]

I... 1/2 of brain slumps

My brain hurts after seeing that

[buoyant maple]

nah it's not remotely complicated

[near gale]

It's the way it is worded, I understand what it is saying... but the way the letters are there... hurts my brain

[feral carbon]

dropped warp battery and essense harvest to get attack speed
hows anticipation though? had it for a bit and dodging felt great, sorta want it to make easy distance from flak armoured hordes while flame staffing them

[analog agate]

Is this for havoc or regular?

[sudden willow]

You called?

[feral carbon]

i haven't even TOUCHED havoc yet, and my zealot is over level 100

[narrow herald]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[sick granite]

Get a load of Tanner over here.

[near gale]

cause the wdmg one is % weakspot damage, the cdmg one is % critical damage, and the cwdmg one I think is critical weakspot damage (added to the previous 2 in that line)

[buoyant maple]

yes

the only complicated part is "d?"

[near gale]

but the letters makes it hurt to look at x.x

[feral carbon]

idek HOW to get into havoc, considering its strike team only

[narrow herald]

Go to party finder

[analog agate]

Discord lfg here or party finder

[near gale]

I haven't the slightest clue was bdmg or d is... oh and %fns is % finesse

[near gale]

so bdmg is base damage?

[buoyant maple]

I used 0.002% of my Chinese heritage to create new math terms for these formulas

[buoyant maple]

well, default damage

but I didn't want to call it Ddmg

[near gale]

Wait... so you multiply 100%(which is 1) x the % bonus you get from the formulas to the right of it?

[buoyant maple]

what?

where?

[buoyant maple]

where is the "100% x %bonus" u speak of

[near gale]

How does DW work?

[buoyant maple]

it's literally explained in the image

[feral carbon]

how important is perfect timing? i could drop it to get the six charges in warp battery

[near gale]

What does it mean... like the different adm of a weakspot or crit?

[buoyant maple]

what?

[wind spruce]

What are dW, dC and dCW

[near gale]

I don't understand what these mean, and the wording makes it even more confusing

[cold ivy]

I think people may be getting confused by the term "total damage"

[near gale]

^

[sudden willow]

dW i take to mean weakspot damage - base damage = dW

[near gale]

Oh

[cold ivy]

Because generally that means "the amount of damage that is dealt in the end", which you use "end result of damage" for instead

[near gale]

So those multipliers are multiplied by the difference amount, rather than the total amount

[upper galleon]

this is me if you even care

[buoyant maple]

base damage = 100

damage on weakspot hit = 150

dW = 150 - 100 = 50

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/kurona-math-gif-18320549

[upper galleon]

(i'm not in this video it's not my video)

[near gale]

I didn't understand what total damage meant

[sudden willow]

fuck knows. the whole thing gives me a headache to look at.

[near gale]

and I am fucked up from work

[cold ivy]

Whereas I think when you say "total damage" you mean "the number in the table that fatshark displays in the weapon inspect screen, where it shows normal/crit/weakspot/crit weakspot"

[near gale]

so my brain couldn't comprehend it

[buoyant maple]

total damage u see displayed when u hit smth in weakspot

[near gale]

Yes so the crit, weakspot, crit weakspot, and finesse multipliers are multiplied by the difference between the damage the attack does and the amount it does on a crit/weakspot/crit weakspot and finesse bonus

[buoyant maple]

yes

[near gale]

The total damage thing sounds confusing

[buoyant maple]

well, it really isn't

there's a far more confusing concept I use

[near gale]

It isn't confusing, but, the wording makes it difficult for us lower brained specimen to understand

[buoyant maple]

I specify total damage

because "weakspot damage" scales from dW

so it's better to say "weakspot hit's total dmg"

[near gale]

I get what it means now, it's just the wording was baffling me

[sudden willow]

I also believe it's mean't to be (base damage + difference) x (100% etc)

[buoyant maple]

the much more confusing contept I introduce very early on is this

[sudden willow]

if you're creating a guide, and people are confused by it... telling them it isn't confusing is... pretty unhelpful lol

[cold ivy]

It might be useful to include an example like:
"A hypothetical weapon does 200 on normal hit, and 300 on weakspot hit.

In this case 50% weakspot damage bonus would multiply only the difference between the two values, i.e. 300-200 = 100, so it would increase weakspot hit damage to 350"

[sudden willow]

now you're just trolling

[buoyant maple]

I'm not

[near gale]

Actually I think it is the base damage + the difference x () because no parenthesis around base damage and the difference means it does the multiplication first, due to the order of operations and the difference is multiplied by the addition of the things in the parethesis because things in parethesis are done before multiplication or addition

[buoyant maple]

it's not

[steep loom]

https://tenor.com/view/groundhog-groundhog-eating-gif-27654631

[near gale]

This is correct, right? @buoyant maple

[steep loom]

is there a mod that gives you more loadouts and helps you manage all of your shit

[blissful solar]

Bdmg + dW = BW (base weakspot) and the same applies for all the rest :3

[sudden willow]

yeah bodmas, but like it's just entirely unclear and confusing. would make more sense to display it as [basedmg + (diff x (100% + boost + finnese))]

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-lizard-running-the-skrunkly-gif-6296845143197051859

[near gale]

No parethesis around the difference and the parethesis equation are needed because the order of operations makes you do the multiplication side first

[buoyant maple]

example:

base dmg = 100
weakspot total dmg = 150
therefore dW = 50
assuming u get +30%Wdmg and +25%FNS

u would get:
100 + (50)x(100%+30%+25%) = 177.5

[buoyant maple]

exactly

[sudden willow]

they're not technically needed if people understand bodma, but it's a well known fact that people don't and it confuses people.
i guess from my job I was taught then when explaining anything, treat the person reading it like they know absolutely nothing about the subject and dumb it right down to basics and avoid any confusion possible.

[near gale]

Which the difference part is(in example): in parethesis the total damage of the weakspot minus the damage the weapon does normally... which is why you need parethesis around the difference thing, right?

[buoyant maple]

if I wanted u to think base dmg is also scaled it would look like this

[sudden willow]

even writing it like this, without a space either side of the 'x' is the same as using brackets

[buoyant maple]

but that is incorrect becasue this is what the game uses

[sudden willow]

dCW also doesn't need to be in brackets

[near gale]

yeah the dc dw and dcw are all equations where you subtract

[buoyant maple]

yea, the brackets are just an indicator that it's a product from smth else

[patent mango]

what the yip

[near gale]

he's maffing, and I am putting my understanding of said maff

[sudden willow]

it's just unclear to me.

[patent mango]

number scary

[buoyant maple]

I can exclude the "x" and the calculation wouldn't change at all, I put it there to look nicer

[sudden willow]

it depends who you want to read and understand it. if you want everybody to, you have to write it for idiots. I'm just pointing that out.

[near gale]

the reason there's a parethesis around dw dc dcw is because it is a subtraction problem and without that you would have: damage + total damage - damage x (equation) which means you would do "damage x (equation)" first if there wasn't a () around "total damage - damage"

[sudden willow]

probs coming off a bit gruff about it. not my intention.

[buoyant maple]

yea but idk what's so difficult to understand

[sudden willow]

just cause you understand it, doesn't mean everyone will. like i said, you gotta put it in laymans terms for everyone to understand. just relaying what i was taught from having to writing engineering processes from my apprenticeship. feel free to pay me no heed.

[buoyant maple]

because if u replace these terms with simpler letters it can be expressed as

A + (B-C)(100%+D%+E%+F%+G%)

which I don't think is hard to understand at all

[near gale]

For people with less understanding in math it is very confusing what is being implied by dc dw and dcw

[sudden willow]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaaa-gif-24210192

[buoyant maple]

I gotta be drastically overestimating the avg person's understanding of maths then

how do I make this look simpler

[patent mango]

i have no idea what the letters mean

[sudden willow]

you REALLY fucking are

[last shore]

If they can’t understand this, they can’t understand math no matter how much you break it down

[sudden willow]

xD

[cold ivy]

i think the biggest ambiguity here is "where do A, B and C come from? where can i see them in game?"

[near gale]

I'm not actually sure, but, I was messed up from work so my brain wasn't mathing as well

[cold ivy]

are they just the numbers listed in the table when you inspect the weapon? or do we have to do even more math?

[patent mango]

someo are obvious but idk fns

oh finesse probably

[cold ivy]

then have some screenshots walking through an actual example

[patent mango]

then dcw ig

[sudden willow]

there's a full table in pictures further back

[patent mango]

oh fr?

[narrow herald]

Path doing God's work here

[buoyant maple]

EXACTLY my guy

[narrow herald]

Can't wait for the Tanner "" "" "" "" dunk""" "" video in response to this

[patent mango]

ok yea i just needed to know the acronyms

[steep loom]

is there a mod that lets you change blessings and perks from the psykhanium

[buoyant maple]

there's a much more complex section about strength

and damage

and the other damage-affecting attributes also with "damage" in name but are actually not "+damage"

[near gale]

The only part I had trouble understanding was what was being implied by dW, dC, and dCW... but yeah trying to explain that to people that don't know how to math is probably impossible

[sudden willow]

I was just pointing out, some people will not apply bodmas and do the multiplication first, hence the brackets around the terms aren't needed, sure, but would make it undeniably clear and idiot proof.

[buoyant maple]

I mean no disrespect to anyone
but this is like elementary school grade 3 maths

[sudden willow]

I'll be disrepectful for you: most people are fucking idiots

[near gale]

Most people are idiots, yeah

[prime elk]

i'm feeling the disrespect from here 😭

[sudden willow]

I encounter it time and time again. First thing they'll do is flame for you how it's written.

[blissful solar]

most people are idiots and they dont even know they're one

[sudden willow]

they don't even have the ability to realise they're an idiot

[prime elk]

well good thing i'm not most people

because i know i'm an idiot

[sudden willow]

based

[gloomy gazelle]

ogyrns be like

[last shore]

Ironic.

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-pedro-pascal-smile-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-pedro-pascal-smiling-meme-pedro-pascal-meme-gif-4380343386078750352

[sudden willow]

i dunno, some of them are like "i can't use big words"

[patent mango]

are ogryns really idiots if they're the only ones that are happy

[prime elk]

something something ignorance is bliss

[patent mango]

truly teh emperors best soldiers

[near gale]

I know I'm stupid... why deny it? Embrace it

[gloomy gazelle]

Can't trust them with swords or equipment thats not used for construction

[patent mango]

we gave them guns

and a nuke

[gloomy gazelle]

construction

[sudden willow]

i know you're obsessed with me, but like, please stop trying to constantly get my attention like some teenager crushing on someone. ask me out on a date so i can reject you and you can move on with your life

[patent mango]

true

DARKTIDE REFERENCE

i have mold in my brain

[sudden willow]

is it tasty? :3

give it a lick and see

[last shore]

And you failed the test. I know you had me blocked. Only an idiot with weak willpower will read blocked messages. Thanks for proving my point 🙂

[patent mango]

cant find out yet

[buoyant maple]

I can tell u how the overall dmg calculation looks like

[(Bdmg) + (d?)x(100%+%finesse related stuff)]
x(100%+%Tdmg+%M/Rdmg+%Ndmg+%Fdmg)
x(100%+%Tstr+%M/Rstr)
x(100%+%damage vs armor type)
x(100%+%backstab/flanking damage)
x(ADM + %rending + %brittleness)
x(damage taken multiplier)
x(damage taken multiplier
x(damage taken multiplier)
x(damage taken multiplier)
x......

[patent mango]

scary

[sudden willow]

Oh no. You're so right. I'm so weak minded 😭 gonna go cry now cause some random person on a discord insulted me. time to reconsider my life.

[last shore]

You probably should

[near gale]

If they had you blocked the message where you replied to them would have been deleted automatically

[blissful solar]

i dont think so?

[last shore]

Nah. You can’t react to people who blocked you. I tested earlier.

[sudden willow]

no, it doesn't work like that

[buoyant maple]

u can go into game and check this, the only hard part is figuring out which damage-related buff goes into which bracket

[blissful solar]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-mpreg-monday-mpreg-monday-omori-gif-12545140900938369982

[near gale]

It just buzzes your screen when you do and removes the reaction

[last shore]

On phone. Don’t see a buzz but it removes. So I mean yeah. Pretty much what I said.

[buoyant maple]

also ADM for carapace on a lot of weapons is quite funny, Json was checking it a while back

everything else are ok

[sudden willow]

I find it funny how the Puritan Patrol are so obsessed over if I've blocked them or not. It's cute.

[near gale]

It does remove the reaction comment. Like if you had me blocked this message would automatically get removed

[narrow herald]

Fishpreg Wendsday has started

[buoyant maple]

finesse doesn't scale from the total product of other dmg related stuff, but this doesn't mean it can't be super strong

[sudden willow]

no, it doesn't. it just appears as a blocked message.

[silk minnow]

does this class suck

[near gale]

No if you try to reply to someone who blocked you

[blissful solar]

alrighty, im gonna block you. reply to me.

[silk minnow]

whats the ranking foir zxlasses rn

[near gale]

boo

They changed that

[last shore]

That’s toxic

[blissful solar]

tragedy

[buoyant maple]

for example

if u have a gun that does 300 base dmg and 900 dmg on crit-weakspot hit

with Marksman's Focus (x15)
Deadly Accurate IV
Precision Strikes

u can reach 2355 total dmg on weakspot hit

[near gale]

It used to remove the message as well, so they changed that recently

[buoyant maple]

[marble crater]

No, psyker is very strong

[blissful solar]

oh wait i cant see blocked messages. did he reply? can i unblock him now?

[last shore]

Yes.

[silk minnow]

how is it ranked like 2nd?

[marble crater]

Depends on what we are ranking I guess

[buoyant maple]

1st in overall DPS vs mixed horde
also 1st in "easiest to mess up and die"

[blissful solar]

idk about that

[sudden willow]

very squish

[pastel spear]

Hey yall how do i get inage perms? I wanna send my class for judgment from the pros?

[near gale]

It used to automatically remove the message when you tried to do this

[marble crater]

Talk more

[silk minnow]

I like that

[pastel spear]

Ah i see

Thanks

[silk minnow]

I use Zealot

[near gale]

That was a recent change

[silk minnow]

I feel its the best class in the game all around

never played psyker

[last shore]

They’ve never removed messages

It just shows up as blocked message or something. And you can expand it

[pastel spear]

I'm rockin this transcendent blazeforce greatsword, and its a KILLER

[near gale]

I know I've seen my replying to message get removed by it

[analog agate]

As a psyker I can be a dick and kill everything before zealot can get to it 🤷‍♂️

[last shore]

Defeats the point of blocking if you’re gonna read anyways 💀

[pastel spear]

EXACTLY

[marble crater]

So can the zealot if he runs ahead

[silk minnow]

I wish ogryn was stronger

[sudden willow]

Does it? Well shit. I'm learning some valuable life lessons today. You are so wise.

[silk minnow]

the only build I use is the slab shield bleed

[near gale]

It's when you try to reply to their comment with one of your own that it used to remove. When you typed a message to someone else or just in general it didn't remove it... it just came up as a blocked comment

[last shore]

Never had it work like that. 🤷‍♂️

For me

[sudden willow]

Or throwing knives, or Zarona, or a gun... psykers abilities are generally slow to fire.

[mental grail]

the meanest, most toxic people in this server when you ask them for help

[blissful solar]

dis is why (some people) get a plugin that makes it so blocked messages disappear

[last shore]

I have it

Goated

[blissful solar]

illegal

tos

[last shore]

💀

[mental grail]

based

[near gale]

idk when it got changed, but, I know I had some messages where I was replying to someone auto removed before

[narrow herald]

YOOOOO THAT'S DORN

[sudden willow]

fuck, wish i knew that was a thing before

[narrow herald]

Sorry I had to make that joke 😔

[narrow herald]

I wish I had the plug in, but it doesn't work for mobile discord

[marble crater]

As zealot it's very difficult to die, as psyker it's very easy to die. But psyker dps is something else

[sudden willow]

I'm absolutely reveling in it atm. It's beautiful.

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/shonli-black-man-in-suit-black-gif-3928070010787101589

What do you need

[jovial juniper]

Gunlugger

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-gif-25530022

[silk minnow]

gunluggwer is good but good luck keeping ammo up 24/7

[jovial juniper]

(if you run out of ammo you lose all of your dps)

[marble crater]

No way, he is doing the psyker stance

[jovial juniper]

[near gale]

lol I just noticed this was a thing in the my account tab in the settings

[native juniper]

Stat to drop for inferno staff?

[near gale]

warp resistance

[native juniper]

wb dueling sword

[near gale]

mobility

[silk minnow]

is blaze force GS pretty good?

[near gale]

From what I've heard it is amazing

[raven mountain]

Best melee in the game

[last shore]

Tbh I dropped cleave damage for DS for inferno specifically

[marble crater]

Cleave

[raven mountain]

dueling sword is either mobility or cleave, depending on your use case.

[silk minnow]

bold claim

[raven mountain]

Not. It's factual.

People have run modded games where zealot gets to run it

and it obliterates ds4

it's in the same position that the ds4 used to occupy--relegated to psyker.

There's only really two reasons to not run it on psyker. 1-You want a mobility stick. 2-You don't want to.

[wild night]

Very little comes close to the Deimos, with regards to force swords, imo.

[wind spruce]

FGS is way better than deimos

[fringe garden]

Well, FGS is just plain awesome regardless. Most fun weapon ever.

[wild night]

FGS is good, I don't deny that, but Deimos' unnatural heavy 2 stagger lets you perma-stun anything that isn't a boss. And has ridiculous single target.

That damage can be further enhanced through Uncanny.

[thorn cedar]

i find them comparable but they operate in pretty different niches imo

[hollow current]

both force swords can use the full push to stagger carapace out of overheads

[gloomy gazelle]

The power of the force is strong with this one

[pure dragon]

Is there a good smite build in the pins? I was digging around but I'm probably an idiot and missed it?

[hollow current]

[pure dragon]

Thank you!

For weapons i was thinking of pairing it with the electro staff for flavor

[raven mountain]

There's room there for variations, but that's a solid core.

And yeah, EK staff is the synergistic one. If you go warp charges, inferno puffs feed a ton of them. Voidstrike is fine, but not really amazing.

Otherwise, you're mostly sticking to guns.

[pure dragon]

I see there's only the quell toughness talent. Is this because you're not taking advantage of warp kills?

Just stunlocking with smite? I've never played smite before but I've played with it and it's kinda annoying when the psyker just smiles 24/7 and I can't use my zealot talents and stuff

[raven mountain]

There's basically a talent lockout. You can choose a few different things based on how much you want to focus on damage vs toughness vs peril reduction.

Could also choose to go warp charges to fuel more warpfire and lose damage on EP smites. Could choose to opt for more or less peril generation with the warp charges or drop wildfire for Soulstealer.

Psyker is kinda like vet in that there's a ton of minor choices you can make while still running the same build, except even more so.

[raven mountain]

Generally speaking, there's three primary places to use smite.
Any time you see a train (rager/crusher/whatever).
You want to quick-build peril for a shriek at a horde.
You want your mommy and need an adult.

There are other edge cases, wanting to prep for a res, whatever, but those three will get you through most situations.

Also, if you choose to run a hybrid gunker (scrier's/smite), then you get 10s of free smite at the end of every scrier's--and it saves ammo!

[near gale]

Santa came early this year!

[strong gulch]

Hey congrats on not dying tho.

Yeah, I feel useless with some of these builds. lol

[pure dragon]

This is all incredibly helpful. Thank you 🙏

[strong gulch]

chainsword, voidstrike, smite, crit aura, SG, warp siphon

DS2, shredder, BB, elite aura, shriek, EP

combat axe, surge, assail, CDR, SG, warp siphon

[strong gulch]

You can also use smite to put enemies where you want them. #psyker-class message

[strong gulch]

This discord has received a gift.

[wind spruce]

That first build actually fucks

[strong gulch]

Right. Like that's a real one.

The second one...

You know what. I bet the seond one is actually fine. EP BB + shriek.

Also DS2

[near gale]

Bam, fedora

[raven mountain]

I think it's the ds5 that has a heavy strikedown

And I wish it felt even half as good to use as the ds4

[wind spruce]

Just don't pull out shredder the entire game and we'll be fine

[modest patrol]

You know, I might agree on never using shredder but my meme zealot build got me so much mastery that now I can use shredder in an oddly effective way
Managed to play myself

[strong gulch]

Getting gud with the scraps we find on that ground.

[modest patrol]

This is the way

And now being determined to get all the zealots stun grenade, loner, and shroudfield penances when I feel like torturing myself

But the embrace of the immaterium is always home

[upper galleon]

Perfect

[near gale]

I can't put into words just how happy I am that I can add hats to things without a white backround to the sides of it

[muted grove]

I feel like all the builds I find benefit more from using shriek than they do from bubble because it’s great but I also think bubble would be really strong in aurics, is there any build that really revolves around bubble and is good?

[raven mountain]

warp charges + bubble lets you chain bubbles together unless they go down to multiple gunners.

Bubble is supportive. Shriek is offensive. There's always a balance to be had in the team.

And the lower level you are, the less important bubble is.

[prime elk]

you generally don't need bubble outside of havoc

[muted grove]

I haven’t tried havoc yet, is havoc one as hard as or harder than an auric maelstrom?

[strong gulch]

Most people use bubble in high havocs because the shooters are A LOT. Otherwise most, at least here in discord, use shriek in non-havocs.

If you want bubble, just make sure your melee and ranged can deal with everything. Like inferno (purg) or voidblast (trauma) with DS4 or deimos.

There is also a double wall EP BB build that utilizes the x2 cast of wall to stack KR with EP. The easiest ranged slot for that is inferno (purg).

[fathom adder]

Havoc 1 is spicy Malice

[strong gulch]

BUT even EP BB falls short if your team is competent.

[raven mountain]

I think havoc 25 is considered auric maelstrom internally.

that or auric damnation

[muted grove]

Dude this whole time I’ve been spamming auric maelstrom trying to get myself ready for havoc 1

[raven mountain]

havoc 1-15 are pretty free. You might lose because darktide, but they aren't all that bad.

[muted grove]

This so huge thank you

[raven mountain]

bubble+inferno+ds4 is the staple psyker build for havocs. Like anything, you can make tweaks and do well, but that's your starting point.

[fathom adder]

IMO Havoc 25 is generally less intense than Auric Maelstrom Damnation in terms of sheer numbers of enemies, but enemy shooting is much more dangerous, The Blight Spreads add the floor hazard and Pus Hardened elites/specials will start to feel very tanky against ranged weapons

[raven mountain]

Man, when I went back to auric damnation from havoc 25-30, it felt like a much more boring game, lol.

[fathom adder]

The big jumps in Havoc difficulty are when the baseline becomes Damnation equivalent and when Emperor's Fading Light goes to level 2

[raven mountain]

Yeah, I think 25 is when it's considered damnation. According to my scoreboard stuff.

[strong gulch]

I seen mostly 2 types of people getting out of havocs and back to aurics. One group is godly and seems like they can't be touched. The other loses their fecking mind and go buck wild and play worse than pre havocs. lmao

It's me. I'm worse.

I'm washed up.

[fathom adder]

At some point in the 30s, Crusher (and IIRC Mauler) overheads will one-shot you straight to dead, no downed state

[strong gulch]

YIP. It's funny.

Insta banned

[raven mountain]

I still take 200-500 damage a map, but I find that for the large bulk of aurics, I just sit around 20-50 chip damage now. It used to be that I took more damage more consistently.

Now it's just like nothing until I do an oops and eat my entire health bar

[thorn cedar]

crushers will always kill you, maulers you can build against to survive an overhead

[sturdy reef]

I just fuck around on martyrdom zealot rn while I try to get penances

[brazen rampart]

DT party finder is wild.

[warped perch]

Hi ice cream sundae frog

[worn beacon]

Fellas is there any gunker havoc builds?

[brazen rampart]

Yes, gimme a sec.

Weapons.

1 stam, 2 toughness.

Talents.

With this you abuse warp unbound with smite, then when your warp unbound timer is almost out, you use a full charged fgs slash to wipe out a group of elites and instantly get scriers back.

[worn beacon]

How does warp unbound even work?

[brazen rampart]

You can take off soulstealer if you wish for a different talent.

[brazen rampart]

Basically, nothing can make you pop for 10s after scriers ends.

[worn beacon]

Ohhhhh

[brazen rampart]

So its 10 free seconds of smite to give your team some breathing room.

The only thing I might trade soulstealer for is the 15 toughness node below warp rider. Crack of bone is a choice but I feel like it makes managing warp unbound a little harder than it needs to be. Warp splitting is a valid choice as well, but Im running wrath on my sword, so I don't need it.

As for the build as a whole, your only drawback is that you chug ammo like a mf.

As a tradeoff, you do fat damage to shooters, ranged elites, and specialists, and you're basically able to stand in sight lines of whatever you want as long as you have ammo.

[wind spruce]

FGS special will not consistently be up in that scenario

[brazen rampart]

If you know what you're doing it will. :)

Wrath actually allows you to cleave stuff lmao.

[wind spruce]

You can't just choose to have a horde to cleave through everytime you want to smite

[brazen rampart]

Takes 5-6 swings into chaff to fully charge your sword.

It's not hard.

Try it out. Trust.

This build legitimately allows me to bot walk through h40 lmao.

[wind spruce]

I've played plenty of scriers FGS

I'll try that out though

Just seems to be optimistic to describe it like a combat loop

[brazen rampart]

This was a h40 gunker match. I got outdamaged by a purg staff.

[wind spruce]

Are you running unarmoured just for dreg gunners?

[brazen rampart]

Yup.

The other choice is to run uny for reapers.

But I feel like I save a lot more ammo running unarmored and just tapping a gunner/shooter and letting him burn to death.

It's also valid to use your recon to burn maulers a little bit before you engage them.

[raven mountain]

Weird. Twice this week I've had an entire havoc lobby crash out.

I'm used to random individuals crashing, like 2014 or whatever, but not used to the whole lobby just gone.

[sweet veldt]

blaze greatsword godroll?

[raven mountain]

80 everything 30 in warp res

best roll

gets you 90% peril in two warpshocks

[sweet veldt]

blessings & perks?

[raven mountain]

idr, in game atm

[prime elk]

unyielding / cara + shred/riposte/unstable power/wrath

precog is ok if you're a freak

[raven mountain]

mine is peril = strength and cleave

[analog agate]

Low warp res is a meme on fgs. Cool if you want to spend dockets on it. But the difference between 60 and 30 WR is negligible

[sweet veldt]

thanks

[raven mountain]

I mean, godroll is godroll

[analog agate]

Ya if you got it use it

[modest patrol]

It be this kind of night

Quit out the game and my pings are back to normal but I'm giving the game major side eye like

[brazen rampart]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jAJTMhVRG78t7sNYt?invite=cr-MSxldkYsMjY5OTA3MzMzLA

Anybody else had weird stuttering like this lately?

[analog agate]

Yep. I think it is server issues. Had it 40 minutes ago

[brazen rampart]

Oh I didn't realize my mic still works for clipping even if I don't have any parties or whatever running.

That's neat.

You can hear me go "oh my God" right there at the end lmao.

[worn heron]

yah

[modest patrol]

Everyone was stuttering on the Mourningstar when I first logged in earlier

(see my gorgeous pings above)

[split lance]

New dog pfp

Nice

[modest patrol]

love getting a fun chat interaction

[sudden willow]

fun chatters are the best

[modest patrol]

I make fun of myself if I go down, it’s the only way I do things

[upbeat kestrel]

He had a plan

[edgy heart]

I hate the player that has to complain about something every time they die

[edgy heart]

Gunker with venting shriek

[sudden willow]

did it pan out, or did he leave out of embarrassment cause it failed?

[upbeat kestrel]

Idk

My plan is to booze as much as i can

[plucky flax]

It's based with bistol.

[torn kernel]

y'all

mk6 fgs horde combo is L1 L2 L3 Assail right?

or would it be better to just assail after l2

[quartz barn]

Afaik it was l1 l2 block

So i guess assail after l2

[upbeat kestrel]

Mk6 fgs has sideways heavy

Outside of special attack

[torn kernel]

L1 & L3 combos into side heavy iirc

[plucky flax]

Push light heavy or... I just light spam.

[quartz barn]

Ye same

Most of your hordeclear comes from the special anyway

[torn kernel]

but assail weaving makes me feel cool

[quartz barn]

So i usually spam heavy on elites to build the special faster

[torn kernel]

fair, i probably should be using the special a lot more

i've been saving it for when warp unbound kicks in but everything's usually dead by then

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax have you tried doing random builds?

[marble crater]

The next victim

[strong gulch]

Suffer for fun.

[marble crater]

I was suffering in Aegis Station yesterday, there were two people who were a little bit out of their element.
I shouldn't have switched from VB to EK

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1298432898004811786/Rest_in_Peas.gif

[marble crater]

We still made it somehow, but I could have really used the horde clear

[radiant frigate]

el ectro kinético without shriek i imagine?

[marble crater]

Nah I had shriek, but it wasn't enough sometimes

Took like 10 minutes to start the skylink bridge, because people kept going down and dying

[paper dust]

skylink what?

[marble crater]

Bridge

[radiant frigate]

screaming hordes on one side and on the other A BROKEN BRIDGE

that one

[marble crater]

And so many specials

[nocturne dust]

No it doesn't

Mk6 has a horizontal light after push

but its two heavies in its heavy spam combo are overhead and stab

or are you counting the diagonal heavy as a 'sideways'?

[upbeat kestrel]

Its more horizontal than vertical ok

[nocturne dust]

so's your screen

[upbeat kestrel]

No

[nocturne dust]

[upbeat kestrel]

I play in 9x16

[nocturne dust]

ew

Even 1x1 would be better

[upbeat kestrel]

Joking

Im not that stupid

[nocturne dust]

Idk if Darktide could handle it

I bet you'd get all sorts of funky behavior

[upbeat kestrel]

I would force it

Bend it to ny will

[nocturne dust]

inb4 Darktide is still normal ratio and just has massive black bars on top and bottom

[upbeat kestrel]

Yeah

[radiant frigate]

i would count it as sweepy

not perfectly horizontal sweepy like the illisi h1l2 cycle but sweepy nonetheless

[nocturne dust]

Fair

I just spam lights

[plucky flax]

No I don't like to gimp team that much

[nocturne dust]

I'll use the sword properly when they make warp slice charge it passively

[plucky flax]

I feel bad if we lose and its my fault

[marble crater]

Just don't lose, smh

[nocturne dust]

It's always everyone else's fault, they just weren't good enough to carry

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

After a loss team be like 'Mr unsanctioned why u no carry?"

[strong gulch]

Fair lol.

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

That's why you never carry so people don't expect it from you

[strong gulch]

You can die on my watch. It's cool.

I die on my watch too.

[nocturne dust]

No no no, I'll only die the instant you aren't watching

[strong gulch]

Just make u clutch. That way I watch the entire time.

[nocturne dust]

Secret to success

I still can't clutch Havocs tho

Even if my connection is perfect, is just too much

and it'll be unlikely that my connection is perfect Seriously, the tiniest problem will just instantly murder you.

[autumn lark]

Unsanctioned psyker subclass

5% to summon a daemon on overloading

[nocturne dust]

That should just be what happens if Psyker dies from peril

instantly spawns aggressive Daemonhost

[summer prairie]

that you control, so you can take your revenge

[nocturne dust]

Time for some real consequences of peril

[paper dust]

your pc explode irl

and you get isekai to the warhammer universe

as a skaven

[nocturne dust]

Pvp Darktide

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/great-horned-rat-gif-25718172

[radiant frigate]

HAVE A MERRY GREAT HORNED RAT DAY EVERYONE-ONE

[plucky flax]

I would love to play as trapper in darktide pvp.

Phasing net through wall / enemy blob btw.

[paper dust]

https://tenor.com/view/rogal-dorn-no-warhammer-warhammer40k-robot-gif-17117864

[radiant frigate]

imagine playable bulwark pack

SHIELD BASH UPON YE

[nocturne dust]

I was Playing Darktide as a Psyker but Kept Exploding So Much that My Computer Exploded and I got Transported to Another World as a Rat God with my Smartphone???

[summer prairie]

optimal bulwark play vs melee is to not attack at all and just circle strafe if they try to get around your shield

maybe push a bit

[paper dust]

imagine its skaven town building game

[radiant frigate]

dark souls pvp

[paper dust]

and your currency is cheese

[nocturne dust]

Optimal Bulwark play is spam shield bash

[radiant frigate]

imagine dropping your guard lmao

[paper dust]

imagine dropin

[radiant frigate]

optimal bulwark play is annoying the rejects until your trapper buddy gets a funky angle

and then you bonk em

WRECKING CREEEEW

[nocturne dust]

Optimal Bulwark play is wait for ten other buddies to spawn that are also bulwarks and trappers, then rush rejects without ever attacking

[summer prairie]

your buddy doesn't need an angle, he can just shoot through your shield

[radiant frigate]

yes that's the funny part of funny angle

[plucky flax]

Optimal play against bulwark is run away and let team deal with it.

[radiant frigate]

or funky

either way

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

imagine not carrying a staff that can just ignore shields

[radiant frigate]

optimal play vs bulwark is shout headstab or trauma

[nocturne dust]

Optimal anti-Bulwark play is fire

[plucky flax]

No I play melee only psyker.

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[plucky flax]

Gazer

[radiant frigate]

gazer blaze trauma

[nocturne dust]

Scrier's Gaze inferno???

Unironically, one of the few uses SG has with Inferno is deleting chonky targets like Bulwarks and Bosses, lol

[paper dust]

what if optimus prime was in warhammer 40k

[wind spruce]

Don't tell me this is a FGS skin

[paper dust]

wuld the emperor be friend with him?

[nocturne dust]

Megatron is just Dark Age of Technology tech

[torn kernel]

it is

[nocturne dust]

tis

[plucky flax]

New slop drop

[nocturne dust]

BLUE

[radiant frigate]

it is

[wind spruce]

Haghahahha 💀

[paper dust]

IS THAT ELDAR SWORD???

[nocturne dust]

I actually like it

[wind spruce]

They finally did it

[nocturne dust]

I wish it looked a bit more like ice tho

[plucky flax]

I'm buying it I'm rich.

[wind spruce]

It's aaaight

[torn kernel]

it'd be better with a slightly stronger blue tint i think