psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

but it's a very little bit

Yes

except

RMB also has strong stagger

[pine shore]

lmb is also instant

[nocturne dust]

Sure

But you have dodges to delay

and RMB's damage is a lot more

[pine shore]

I have dodges and lmb to delay

And then rmb

[nocturne dust]

what's the point of lmb there?

Just RMB

[pine shore]

instant stagger and then start charging rmb

[nocturne dust]

it starts you up quicker, and you're using dodges anyway so you should be safe

[nocturne dust]

are you getting jumped or something

why do you need instant stagger

and why is dodging not enough

[analog agate]

I mean… hordes do spawn in directly out of sight

[pine shore]

Helps stop ragers, stop gunner from shooting, if we are trying to get fast through the alarm zone with doors on that one map lmb staggers everything and doesn't slow me down

[nocturne dust]

RMB instantly staggers hordes

[pine shore]

hordes are the last thing you need to stagger with lmb

[analog agate]

Shows how much I play inferno 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

RMB doesn't even need Blaze Away to stagger hordes

[analog agate]

I have even given inferno up on havoc

[pine shore]

I use inferno only on havoc

[nocturne dust]

I can't imagine scenarios where you need that and also aren't making a positioning error

[pine shore]

Everywhere else shit dies too quickly

[summer prairie]

just play perfectly and you never even have to dodge

[jovial juniper]

Don't even have to move forward

[summer prairie]

I don't even use curios these days

[pine shore]

idk, I just know that I like my lmb stagger and it's good

[summer prairie]

lmb stagger is way better and faster, use it

[pine shore]

talents are a crutch

[nocturne dust]

You do you, but that would be why you have to dump warp res below 60

[pine shore]

come on

[nocturne dust]

although I have a heavy suspicion that it still would be fine for shrieking off cooldown

[pine shore]

You are talking like I'm spending half of my missions only spamming lmb

[nocturne dust]

No, but I use LMB like once or twice

per mission

[summer prairie]

you need to improve then

instead of telling others to play like you

[nocturne dust]

You're right, I'm very bad

[pine shore]

rmb purgatus is a crutch

lmb only for good players

[analog agate]

I have a sneaking suspicion you guys are playing very differently if legser is doing shriek on havoc

[nocturne dust]

I can't solo Havoc with white weapons and no talents, I'm a filthy fraud 😭

[summer prairie]

he likes to use lmb, no need to convince him not to

[nocturne dust]

I'm not trying to do that

The original topic was warp res on Inferno

[pine shore]

yes

[summer prairie]

also I quell all the time with purg, like constantly

[nocturne dust]

and it wasn't about wat people like or prefer, but effectiveness

[summer prairie]

in havoc at least

[pine shore]

I only quell my purg with shriek

F is my quell button

[nocturne dust]

I also quell all the time with purg

even with shriek

[strong gulch]

I keep my 18 or 24 WR staves because it's hard/ expensive to get again and I don't remember to make a new one until I'm loading into a lobby.

I also like to keep peril gen somewhat even across my staff builds.

But all of that is preference and on meta or based on data. It's all feelings.

[nocturne dust]

I don't know how you could not unless you're also taking anti-warp nodes like BM or ER

[analog agate]

I take both in high havoc for inferno

[nocturne dust]

I do if I'm running bubble

Shriek, eeeehhh

[strong gulch]

Even try to quell to guns. 😭 (bye unused mag)

[pine shore]

I only have generic warp gen nodes because those can't be avoided

[nocturne dust]

well, yeah

[analog agate]

I’m too bad to use shriek only 😐

[nocturne dust]

the generic nodes should really be... fixed

Fatshark, make them +warp damage

[upbeat kestrel]

I like my minimum warp generation build with ball staff

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dfv-gme-gamestop-moass-game-stop-gif-11700783231030267714

If Voidstrike could cleave carapace, it would probably be the strongest staff in Havoc

[summer prairie]

the carapace elites would still have infinite hit mass

[pine shore]

Remember when voidstrike was meta

[nocturne dust]

well, I'm making a couple assumptions about the 'can cleave carapace' I guess

[pine shore]

If we had this version of voidstrike now, it would probably still be worse than purg or even surge lmb

holy powercreep

[nocturne dust]

I mean

[analog agate]

Voidstrike was only meta because blaze trauma was laying low. Like Magnus Carlsen still playing chess but slunk into the background

[nocturne dust]

none of those staves can bully bosses like old voidstrike

[upbeat kestrel]

It deletes hordes fast enough so i dont complain

[pine shore]

blaze trauma was insanelt difficult to get

[buoyant maple]

they don’t, it’s just carapace having an end-cleave-on-contact property

[pine shore]

I spent 2 mil dockets on mine

[summer prairie]

I know they don't, just exaggerating

for voidstrike purposes they might as well

[upbeat kestrel]

I swap it with purgatus from time to time

[analog agate]

Very lucky

[pine shore]

Voidstrike was just get decent stats, warp nexus, flurry or surge and go

[nocturne dust]

I spent about 200k dockets on my Blaze Trauma

[pine shore]

I hate you

[nocturne dust]

(I got it after the crafting update)

[pine shore]

Bring back old crafting

Everyone must suffer

I suffered so will you

suffer

[uneven mirage]

i just had legit the worst team in my 500 hours of gameplay

Auric diff 4, so it should be chill

3 guys with Auric Storm Survivor title

[nocturne dust]

"Society grows great when old men plant hazardous torture traps they experienced earlier"

[pine shore]

ah, so that's where your problem is

you played on heresy

They worst difficulty to try

[uneven mirage]

they just were unable to group up for 30 seconds to do serviskull objective

[pine shore]

heresy moment

[uneven mirage]

one of them legit didnt understand why he cant interact when i was doing it

we spent 10 minutes on this fragment

and failed after 2 of them left

why are Storm Survivor players always the worst

[pine shore]

because they are ass

[uneven mirage]

living up to the title fr

[nocturne dust]

Because they have a lovely ASS that attracts heresy

[uneven mirage]

one of them was a fkin stealth zealot

[prime elk]

why do you think i run around with that title?

you can't say i didn't warn you

that i'm ASS

[uneven mirage]

STEALTH ZEALOT AND WE SPENT 10 MINUTES TRYING TO DO SERVISKULL OBJECTIVE

jesus

[nocturne dust]

Don't worry

This is why they added Rolling Steel

[uneven mirage]

joined quickplay, Chasm Station again

instantly wiped on the very same part

[steep loom]

this event is so frustrating

[uneven mirage]

It really isnt

[steep loom]

the regular damnation dogwater queuing auric and ruining every lobby

[uneven mirage]

you dont even need entire team to be grouped, just one guy to click the skull and 2 people to defend them

idk i played so many havocs i kinda got used to people understanding the basics of the game

[analog agate]

Which map?

[steep loom]

i was doing fine carrying and then some dude aggro'd a daemonhost, died, but then left before it could kill him

[zinc phoenix]

dont even really need to defend, literally just pushing works too

[uneven mirage]

literally

[steep loom]

so then it switched to me lmfao

[zinc phoenix]

imo if you leave after aggroing host it should follow you into your next game and kill you there

[uneven mirage]

but when i interact with it, and dude stands next to me drooling at his screen not understanding why funny magic box doesnt show up when he presses E on yellow thingy

[steep loom]

it should come out of your monitor and kill you irl

[uneven mirage]

then it's not winnable

i swear to god i understand Hadron now

[steep loom]

it should send your monkey ass to the warp

[nocturne dust]

They should make it so the Daemonhost also quits the match and follows the player into their next match

[zinc phoenix]

yes exactly

it'd be thematic too

its a warp demon

why does it care about simple video game rules

[buoyant maple]

Just make the daemonhost target the bot that replaces the previously-targeted player who left

Shouldn’t be hard to code

[zinc phoenix]

no itd be way funnier for it to exit the map and kill the player in their next game

[uneven mirage]

what i find funny is how people just let the aggroed person die without even trying to kill the DH, and it really isnt that hard to burst down

[zinc phoenix]

if you aggro host and cant solo it i fully intend to let you die

[steep loom]

its a pain in the ass to melee because it moves so erratically

[nocturne dust]

Sir, we're psykers

[buoyant maple]

It depends on how far away they are and if the team has enough dps

It’s also really annoying to try to help if ur boss dps is melee

[nocturne dust]

by the time we 'burst down' the DH, we have 1 HP and a purple bar

and don't you gunkers start

[zinc phoenix]

i dont care if i can literally solo the host with my laspistol gunker, if someone aggros it im gonna let em suffer

[uneven mirage]

GUN PSYKER

[nocturne dust]

SILENCE GUNKER

IF I WANTED TO USE A GUN, I'D HAVE BEEN BORN A BLUNT

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[steep loom]

bro hit the nurgle cart and got sent straight to the warp 😂

[analog agate]

Anyone know if a gun psyker has completed a havoc 40 here?

[zinc phoenix]

what if you wanted to use a gun with a metal plate over your face?

cant do that as a blunt

[analog agate]

I assume they have, maybe one of the zealot players

[nocturne dust]

I mean

[uneven mirage]

to be fair though, I meant it like, dude runs into the host because he's fkin blind, no horde around, DH is submissive and focusable and half the team just carries on

[nocturne dust]

Json's build for meleeker works in Havoc 40

and meleeker is gunker is assailker

soooooooooooooooooooo

[zinc phoenix]

that build is explicitly zap stick

[analog agate]

So he has completed a havoc 40 with it?

[pine shore]

how many kers are there

[uneven mirage]

havent seen assailkers in months

[analog agate]

Ah, so not gun psyker

[nocturne dust]

yes, but you could easily swap it with a gun

[zinc phoenix]

you cant

[nocturne dust]

It's used as a revolver, really

[zinc phoenix]

its illegal

[nocturne dust]

😭

[zinc phoenix]

but also, you kinda need the peril gen

[nocturne dust]

Just dump warp res on your FGS harder

[zinc phoenix]

you already have to blast constantly with the sword special to keep it up

[analog agate]

Have you done it oddball?

I know exploits hasn’t

[zinc phoenix]

ive got one with exactly the stats json uses, its a pain

[uneven mirage]

also, be honest now people

do you use stimms or hoard

[nocturne dust]

wat's Json's warp res?

[zinc phoenix]

i did a mid 30s with it

[nocturne dust]

hoard even tho I shouldn't

and then a teammate yells at me to use my stimm so I use it at the wrong time

[analog agate]

I always hoard. I don’t use stims just to use them

[nocturne dust]

It's just so hard to use stimms because I either don't need them or I'm dead

[uneven mirage]

im grinding stimm usage penances

[buoyant maple]

Blue stim is always a good choice to use

[uneven mirage]

and when i see a dude swipe my speed stimm

and never use it

i want to murde

[analog agate]

Pretty much when I hear boss/horde or double boss? I use them

[buoyant maple]

Stim priority is sorta team dependent

[nocturne dust]

I used a med stimm to clutch once tho

[buoyant maple]

In some niche situations veteran benefits from red more than psyker

[nocturne dust]

Literally used it and then got a hit that would've killed me without it

[analog agate]

Havoc 40 I played a few hours ago my team was stimming me all game. I kinda felt violated I was being penetrated so much

[uneven mirage]

its not a stimm priority if dude takes it and never uses

[nocturne dust]

Lol, red stimm on Inferno is so nice

[uneven mirage]

i must consume all the speed stimms

so i can walk through immaterium barefoot

[nocturne dust]

You spit out some fire, stimm, and suddenly wonder where the enemies are

[zinc phoenix]

#psyker-class message

[nocturne dust]

Dang, only 40%?

I have a 22% sword

wonder how much that'll change things

[zinc phoenix]

im too lazy to keep rolling them

[vernal frost]

Ye but what if it made you feel safe and that in turn made you take a hit? What if not taking the stim would've prevented you from getting hit by being more cautious?

[nocturne dust]

I wasn't even rolling for it

I just needed another sword for build reasons and stumbled on it

[nocturne dust]

Easy solution: never feel safe

[zinc phoenix]

well going from 60 to 40 added like 7 peril

so 22 would be like 5 more peril?

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[zinc phoenix]

idk, its been most of a month since i last played

[nocturne dust]

It generates like 84% peril last I checked

but I don't use that sword often

[analog agate]

This is the most hilarious part about the earlier conversation. Warp resistance scales hilariously. You guys were discussing low warp resistance where it was, like, 5 peril difference

[zinc phoenix]

which earlier conversation?

that was for the FGS!

just to be clear

[analog agate]

Dead and another guy were talking difference between 60 vs 40 WR on inferno staff

It really doesn’t matter

[zinc phoenix]

oh thats a totally different issue tho

[analog agate]

I know.

[zinc phoenix]

and WR scaling on sticks is very different than sword

[analog agate]

Your comment on the 7 peril just reminded me of it

[zinc phoenix]

yeah its just not a lot most of the time

[nocturne dust]

yes

well, it does matter more on a staff

unless you're a hard edger on something like trauma

[analog agate]

I would have to get a 40% to test out for myself

Difference on a 40 vs 80 WR on VB would possibly be 1 full blast. As 60 is about a half blast

But I don’t think it would matter at all on inferno

[buoyant maple]

doesn't matter enough

the only case where it noticeably matters is if u roll particularly low WR on force greatsword where a single special-activated attack is like +50% peril

instead of ~35% at 60% WR

[late sapphire]

actual peak

you should be able to stack em too

aggro demonhost, leave, join, aggro new demonhost before old ones catch up, repeat

[uneven mirage]

damn, finally

took way longer than it should

[nocturne dust]

When you're just chilling in sedition and then Daemonhunter™️ joins and is followed by 10 billion daemonhosts

[uneven mirage]

Eisenhorn moment

[late sapphire]

John Doomslayer

[uneven mirage]

he ain't slayin' nobody

also, with enough Daemonhosts their aura could probably stack, right? So you go full purple in like 0.0001s

that would be kinda funny

[verbal thistle]

They don't stack

I had 4 demonhosts alive on me at once in a game

I never went past a wound

[wet charm]

squeak (hello frens! rat is scurrying on US West if anyone would like to join)

squeak (any skill level is welcome)

[upbeat kestrel]

Speak normally

[broken carbon]

@maiden oracle

my exact same build for aurics lol

[maiden oracle]

Bis what’s the horde and st combo again

Well st is just rev heavy im assuming

[fiery stratus]

@broken carbon pretty much what I've been running lately. I also take Anoint in Blood and Purge the Unclean

Also 15

[broken carbon]

its not really needed

eh 15 for boss kill

sure

[fiery stratus]

I just like it for the bosses ye

[broken carbon]

but you get more value from sustained assault

you miss out on

5% damage against bosses?

but its active all the time

wait

[broken carbon]

did i give you that build

[broken carbon]

#gameplay-help message

[fiery stratus]

It's close to what mine is but there's some difference just based on my playstyle

[broken carbon]

fair

mk15 is boring

imo

and purge the unclean is

ok

depending on what ur dropping for it

[upbeat kestrel]

Mk15 evis?

[broken carbon]

yeah

[upbeat kestrel]

Aye

[broken carbon]

zealot chat is still in chains

so

i have 2 post stuff here

[maiden oracle]

Melee psyker is just a slightly different zealot if you try hard enough

[fiery stratus]

I like it for bolter when I'm doing qp. If you get stuck clutching with a boss it helps a lot

[upbeat kestrel]

I got best zealot advice from payker chat so it checks out

[broken carbon]

who gave u the advice

[fiery stratus]

Pskyer chat is new zealot chat

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[broken carbon]

i will judge.....

[broken carbon]

yeah

[upbeat kestrel]

Psyker chat regulars

[broken carbon]

i just like bolter as a quick emergency solution

i barely ever actually use it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[broken carbon]

i use bolter probably 5 times most a game

sometimes less

[upbeat kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-gif-8285970240646611836

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-zumba-drooling-plankton-gif-15005725

[maiden oracle]

I pull out the bolter when there’s a boss I don’t want to melee or a ogyrn pack

Forgot how many shots it took to open a bulwark

[fiery stratus]

I haven't used the 3 much, might mix it up and try it out.

[sudden willow]

inb4 slowmode

[broken carbon]

its super fun but

it is bad

[upbeat kestrel]

Relic blade better

[broken carbon]

yeah

almost everytthing is better lol

[upbeat kestrel]

Mk2 relic blade the best weapon on zealot ino

[fiery stratus]

I use the heavy and special attack a lot on the other, mostly just lights for clearing

I do the special on pretty much all armor, muties ect

As long as it can still kill crushers in a decent period I can swing it

[broken carbon]

its about on par with ds4

[fiery stratus]

But yeah relic blades make everything but duelling sword dookie

[broken carbon]

maybe a bit higher

[upbeat kestrel]

I dont recognize ds4 a a weapon beside psyker

[fiery stratus]

I wish they would do a round of just human melees

Give ogryn something

[nocturne dust]

just human melees
talks about the only abhuman immediately after

[fiery stratus]

I mean human melees that aren't class specific, throw ogryn some fist weapons

[broken carbon]

"only abhuman"

says the psyker

[nocturne dust]

Hey now

Psykers aren't abhumans

They're heretics

[fiery stratus]

I want ogryn power fists, but they need longer range than the grenadiers normal melee

The normal melee has like 2 inches of reach

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn extendofists

[velvet crescent]

pipe dream but i had the mental image of an ogryn picking up some poor heretic then lobbing him into a poxwalker horde like a bowling ball

[upbeat kestrel]

Those would be just fists

[fiery stratus]

Yeah it be nice if you could toss them around somehow

[velvet crescent]

i main grapplers in fighting games and charge is as close as it gets for me

that, and fat damage from folded shovel

[nocturne dust]

Imagine if Ogryn fists could grapple

Pick up poxwalkers and toss them or hug a crusher

[fiery stratus]

I was thinking about something similar at one point. Imagine a nurgle-something boss that tosses poxwalkers, if they hit you they explode with corruption

[upbeat kestrel]

Suplex

Crushers

[velvet crescent]

damn now im tempted to use my 5th slot to make an ogryn
bodyguard named potemkin

oooor brawler named zangief?

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-ralsei-heavy-punch-taunt-gif-24161126

Do this to a crusher

[fathom adder]

potenkin bodyguard
A huge slab with a huge shield who falls over the instant he gets hit?

[velvet crescent]

slide head

also nice dow2 guardsman pfp

[nocturne dust]

Sometimes I wonder if they know how to dodge

[radiant frigate]

seven deaths?

seven?

[nocturne dust]

We won I carried so hard

[radiant frigate]

the fact that one with seven deaths still has 2 rescues is concerning

[nocturne dust]

It was a really crappy match, I can say the 7 deaths guy was my best teammate (because they didn't leave)

[upbeat kestrel]

Ah yes

People that fall over and leave

[nocturne dust]

To be fair, it constantly looked like we were going to perish and quite a few stuck around through a couple deaths

but there were at least 5 that joined, died immediately, and then left

[upbeat kestrel]

I never leave mission unless i have to

[nocturne dust]

Also this moment

jumpscare trapper

I didn't know specials could jump down from the higher ledge area to... that spot

[radiant frigate]

i mean it does look like there was a fair amount of perishing

[marble crater]

Hot fix for Xbox crashes
I will do my part and play a lot of Darktide to test if they helped

[nocturne dust]

I want a fix for the normal rate of stalls, disconnects, and crashes 😔

[marble crater]

Weirdly enough I had no problems in that shitshow of the mission yesterday

[deft stump]

Cursed? Cursed.

[nocturne dust]

I was mostly fine

[deft stump]

I had nightmares.

[nocturne dust]

mostly

[ornate hamlet]

Do I want to build towards scriers , telekene or venting?

[upbeat kestrel]

You do 3 builds

[nocturne dust]

You can freely reset your tree

so you don't have to worry too much about commitment

[deft stump]

Is more, what do you want to do and how you wanna play.

[ornate hamlet]

I'm just wondering which will be handy

[nocturne dust]

If you're new, try to avoid telekine shield

It can build bad habits

[radiant frigate]

venting goode

scrier's goode

[ornate hamlet]

Scriers looks pretty clutch but the 50 vent looks very handy

[nocturne dust]

Vent is the OP damage ability, Scrier's is the not-as-OP damage ability

[radiant frigate]

dome existe

[nocturne dust]

You don't use Vent for the peril

[radiant frigate]

scrier's makes you bonk harder and vent just kills things by itself

vent most goodest overall

[ornate hamlet]

Ok I'll go towards the vent

Thanks

[glacial vapor]

Just depends on how you're building the class. All 3 abilities have their uses

[nocturne dust]

Eh

Waiting for the day all nodes on the tree have a use

[upper sun]

ULTRA MEGA RARE CRASH FIXED

its over darktide is saved

[granite mauve]

yes

[deft stump]

You just need extra cursed runs for Xbox to run fine.

[ornate hamlet]

Best voidstrike blessing?

[deft stump]

Surge, Nexus, Flurry.

[ornate hamlet]

Cheers

[deft stump]

Pick 2 of 3.

[jovial juniper]

So, EK golden orb still a thing huh

[nocturne dust]

surge and nexus

surge and flurry if they ever unnerf true aim

[deft stump]

Heh.

But yeah, those 3 are the only viable ones. And yes, there are ppl who use Nexus Flurry. IDK if they'll poke their heads in though.

[nocturne dust]

I mean

there are people who use transfer peril

[deft stump]

Surge nexus has highest damage. Surge flurry trades chance for speed, nexus flurry trades away crit funni for consistency.

[nocturne dust]

Yes

but surge flurry and nexus flurry are significantly worse than surge nexus. Voidstrike is the gamble staff.

[ornate hamlet]

I might go for surge nexus

[deft stump]

Honestly, try all and see which you prefer.

[nocturne dust]

No

Try only meta

[ornate hamlet]

Just for the big abominations yeah probably will as im level 16

[deft stump]

It's always about the feel. You play better when you are comfortable with it.

[nocturne dust]

All staves kinda suck against monsters

Voidstrike needs you to hit weakspots

which is pretty hard to do against cspawn

I would recommend Inferno or Electrokinetic if you want something that can work against abominations and be safe, slap unyielding on and keep your distance

[ornate hamlet]

I'll give them a try I Still havnt even used the inferno

[deft stump]

EK is best bet for bosses. Kinetic Flayer and it is usually the only way if you don't wanna manfight with melee.

[nocturne dust]

Inferno is the highest damage staff, but tends to have trouble at lower difficulties simply because it's a DoT weapon and everything else will clear things faster when there's not enough enemies to go around

[nocturne dust]

Inferno is, actually

Inferno is the only staff that can outpace Recon Las in boss damage

still can't outpace Vraks tho

[deft stump]

Look, it does nothing unless you kite the buggers forever or go ballsy and uncanny the boss.

[nocturne dust]

no?

Just flame from distance

End with highest boss damage

You don't need uncanny soulblaze for that, I wasn't actually counting that

cuz it's really annoying and hard to do consistently against bosses

[deft stump]

Unless pogryn tbh.

Based on my other class nonsense.

[nocturne dust]

well, even pogryn can be trouble if it decides to run at somebody else

https://tenor.com/view/why-you-running-why-get-back-here-come-back-boo-a-madea-halloween-gif-6192594

[deft stump]

Just be a boss magnet, it's easy.

Like being a charger magnet in L4D2.

95% of chargers charge at me.

No matter the situation.

[nocturne dust]

Me watching every boss in every match avoid me like I'm soap the moment I pull out a thammer:

[deft stump]

You have hammer, duh.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-flee-from-me-tonyactsout-dont-run-away-from-me-dont-get-away-come-back-here-gif-22159114

[deft stump]

They chase the 300 ping full packet loss knoife user who lag dodge everything or get 1 shotted due to packet loss.

[nocturne dust]

Then they should be chasing me

[deft stump]

When you panic duel a boss and dodge an entire dookshow along the way.

[upper sun]

after our havocs i finally feel your ping hell

why does havoc lag even more than when i play on SEA

[upbeat kestrel]

If god gives i will complete havoc 40 today

[ornate hamlet]

Best blessings for the blaze force?

[vernal frost]

which mk

[ornate hamlet]

Deimos mk iv

[vernal frost]

uncanny unstable

[ornate hamlet]

Thx

[vernal frost]

or precog maybe

on high enough difficulties deflector might also work

[deft stump]

See, nobody understands till they finally feel it. I'm just used to it since I rather let carries get the better ping.

[vernal frost]

but regular i'd run uncanny/precog+unstable

[nocturne dust]

uncanny/slaughterer

[upper sun]

i think its better if we play at SEA

[deft stump]

Is the packet loss btw. It's pure packet loss.

[nocturne dust]

uncanny for single targets, slaughterer for hordes

[upper sun]

yeah my animations were bugged it wasnt just lag

[nocturne dust]

you can also run deflector for more defense, but I'd only recommend considering it in high Havoc

[deft stump]

Nu. I am not a carry. Do not listen to Stompt.

[nocturne dust]

Precog is not that good on psyker, and Deimos doesn't really make use of the damage

[upper sun]

i didnt have such issues when we played at SEA just when we played havoc besides

[deft stump]

I know, I'm just used to weapon flickering trying to hit things.

[nocturne dust]

Unstable Power is just worse slaughterer unless you're solely focused on single targets

[upper sun]

i think i get less ping at SEA than you do in europe

i think it doesnt take the same paths forwards and backwards

[wind spruce]

Never precog

[deft stump]

Warudo is SEA? But how? I had lag as well.

[upper sun]

i think hes NA

i didnt have problems when Sut joined us

[deft stump]

It depends on day and time tbh. Why I rather play grave hours. Is better ping and less loss.

[upper sun]

i think the game auto selects regions in havoc

[vernal frost]

i disagree with that, melee focused builds gain a lot of value from it when you play offensively, and unstable vs slaughterer also heavily depends on what your secondary is

[deft stump]

Naw. Is based on what host selects in mission terminal.

[upper sun]

i had it randomly switch from eu to US once before and people yelled at me

even tho why the fuck would i change regions without telling anyone in between missions

[vernal frost]

i switched from deimos as soon as fgs dropped tho but i'd always pair it with purgatus

[deft stump]

I always switch to eu before hosting and all the eu peeps played fine but me.

[nocturne dust]

Precog's duration is incredibly tiny and very reliant on your actually dodging and not murdering the thing you're dodging

Slaughterer is just a bigger buff

and easier condition

it's a simple calculus

[vernal frost]

yeah you might actually be right here considering the stupid amount of stagger deimos has

also one of the reasons why i stopped using it

[vernal frost]

if i actually use it to horde clear and not just pull out to kill bosses/elite packs that is

which again depends on your secondary of choice

[nocturne dust]

True

which is why I already made that caveat

#psyker-class message

[deft stump]

No clue then, I do know EU has a few servers. Some more spicy for me than others.

[upper sun]

im gonna ask on the forum

[nocturne dust]

but also, even on elite packs, slaughterer can still come out on top

It's only the very big bois that slaughterer falters against

[minor wedge]

Is there any word when we'll get the lost level back ?

Also, hi everyone.

[upper sun]

lost level? you mean excise vault?

[vernal frost]

what's up with obscurus btw

[minor wedge]

The one that remotely resembles a butthole

[nocturne dust]

It's a weapon

[upper sun]

🤔

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[vernal frost]

last I checked on it it had worse cc than deimos

did the new moveset help it in any way?

[nocturne dust]

It's the in-between of Deimos and Illisi currently.

As in, better horde clear than Deimos, better single target than Illisi

It functions.

[jovial juniper]

Gave a horde clear combo and a 3 hit Crusher prowess

A decently fast 3 hit

[nocturne dust]

note that the 3-hit does require buffs

but, y'know, definitely not as insane as the buff requirements to get Illisi to oneshot

[minor wedge]

The one with the many pipes

in the beginning

that hasnt been in rotation for forever now

[deft stump]

It's a horde weapon, what did you expect reeeeeeeeeee

[upbeat kestrel]

Illisi is illisi

Its antihorde not anti armor

[upper sun]

excise vault is the one thats not in rotation https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Excise_Vault_Spireside-13

[minor wedge]

ye

[nocturne dust]

Illisi is trash

why use small sword

[jovial juniper]

The one with the best joke in the game, made by Bully

[nocturne dust]

when big sword

[upper sun]

yeah man i miss vault

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1321371717599367198/Greatsword_Elmo.gif

[upper sun]

it was one of my favs

[upbeat kestrel]

Because i like small sword sometimes

[nocturne dust]

disgusting

[deft stump]

[upbeat kestrel]

But i like big sword.more

[vernal frost]

me omw to roll a 0% dmg illisi and put blazing spirit on it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/thrawn-an-acceptable-outcome-grand-admiral-thrawn-gif-12633452390380543530

[nocturne dust]

We could've had a good fire sword 😭

all Fatshark had to do

[vernal frost]

fatshark HATE blazing spirit

[nocturne dust]

was make blazing spirit work with FGS ranged slice

[vernal frost]

you are NEVER getting a good fire weapon

[nocturne dust]

and also on-hit

[sudden willow]

it's not the size that matters, it's how you use it

[upbeat kestrel]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

Me with my inferno staff:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[vernal frost]

https://tenor.com/view/i-give-it-to-ya-you-got-me-there-you-got-me-tricked-prank-gif-4730848

[vernal frost]

these new sets have completely made me forget about excise vault

wait

maybe they forgot to mention it...

[deft stump]

Maybe they just want you to forget about it.

[upper sun]

@autumn lark

[vernal frost]

space marine jan community update dropping today, maybe that will bring me joy....

[nocturne dust]

Narrator: It won't.

[vernal frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256063489550717019/1291398246740262942/caption.gif

[sudden willow]

Joy is fleeting.

[nocturne dust]

but the God Emperor is eternal

- Darktide Loading Screen

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-laughing-don't-laugh-don'tlaugh-ishowspeed-laughing-gif-15284676702826611657

[autumn lark]

i wonder what saber will do in year 2

[vernal frost]

horse mode

not even gonna edit what my phone autocorrected

[autumn lark]

there is a leak of all seasons which extends beyond 4

[vernal frost]

yeah we basically know everything

except actual content

[autumn lark]

well

only chapters

[vernal frost]

I mean we have the models also

[autumn lark]

and goddamn i hope the salamancer chapter skin includes successors

[vernal frost]

ofc it will

[autumn lark]

i NEED dark krakens

[vernal frost]

no wait don't quote me on that

I looked up the index and I don't actually see stuff there, only raven guard

which is weird but I guess we are not too far away from the community update

[vernal frost]

no successors rn, could be that we're only gonna get the champion and then raven guard stuff

[summer prairie]

the hotfix buffed the ogryn event a bit, I think. A bit more ogryns now based on the code

probably not much difference, only buffed the average

[nocturne dust]

Dark krak, you say

[upper sun]

@summer prairie syllo ur my only hope

do you know how havoc selects server regions?

i feel like its not based on host region

[deft stump]

Stallions?

[summer prairie]

No, I don't

[upper sun]

🤔 is there a mod that shows server region in game?

[nocturne dust]

Havoc just randomly picks

[nocturne dust]

I use ping to tell

[summer prairie]

wouldn't you know based on the ping

[upper sun]

yeah should be good enough

[deft stump]

I just think everyone should change the server thing in the mission terminal before to agreed upon server.

[cold geode]

You can select your region on the map selection screen.

[upper sun]

yeah i know i just feel like it doesnt work for havoc

[autumn lark]

forcing a japanese player to use european servers

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-laughing-don't-laugh-don'tlaugh-ishowspeed-laughing-gif-15284676702826611657

[deft stump]

Eh, I trust Chaos and Syllo to carry, so the lag is fine. GL when you pug those those.

[autumn lark]

ngl on space marine 2 ive never had any issues with ping even when others were at 100+

[deft stump]

Is just extreme delays so you get stuck on already dead enemies for too long. Unless packet loss, that's really spicy.

You can afk in front of a gunner and take 0 damage or die to ghost hits, which I assume is when you finally got said packet that you are taking 40k hits from said gunner earlier later.

[sudden willow]

utterly different game, different net code

[deft stump]

@paper dust

[paper dust]

yes YES

https://tenor.com/view/yes-street-fighter-gif-14106450

[vernal frost]

yeah even on helldivers it's all g considering most of the game runs clientside, but then there's cheaters

[deft stump]

Problem with MHW as well btw.

[granite mauve]

it depends if the game is hosted or not

in hd2 it's hosted

like in vt2

[vernal frost]

in hd2 all the shit like enemies and whatnot is actually running on clientside

it's a bit different from vt2

[deft stump]

Yes, out walking with her and getting dinner lul.

[paper dust]

pet the lass

[granite mauve]

yes but you'll still feel the lag if the host is very far away or has an unstable internet

[paper dust]

she is walking gooderly

she deserve a treat

[deft stump]

Like MHW, playable completely even with stupid lag. Cos most things are client.

[vernal frost]

yeah but to a much lesser extent

[autumn lark]

monster hunter always had some seriously good multiplayer

[granite mauve]

not really

[vernal frost]

I've always heard complaints about it

[granite mauve]

it can get very bad

[vernal frost]

like cutscenes and shit

[deft stump]

To be fair, she's been jumping on every running kid thinking they wanna play.

[autumn lark]

this is more game related to not being able to que up for multi before a monster cutscene

im more talking how stable the netcode is and players

in wilds they fixed alot of world issues and brought back SOS

[paper dust]

she is increasing joy to the childrens

[minor wedge]

I just completed my first auric maelstrom as trauma psyker

HOLY shit was that fun

[paper dust]

shhe must get a pat pat for it

[minor wedge]

insanely buzy but realy fun

[nocturne dust]

congratz

[deft stump]

Not really, many are scared.

[deft stump]

Do NOT listen to the flies.

[paper dust]

bah you lie the chindrens arent terrify
its a emotion of surprise
||and panic||

[deft stump]

The panic is the issue. Carrot really isn't violent except to most other dogs. R word incidents when she was younger, to put it that way.

[paper dust]

then you must give more walkies till she is tired

that way her energy wont terrify the childrens

[deft stump]

She's a gremlin, they get energy to do things out of nowhere when they wanna do something.

I know cos I'm that way as well.

[minor wedge]

Zola has a weird name

"Orgustine"

lol

[jovial juniper]

Real

I was like
Who the hell is Orgustine

[minor wedge]

Same lol

[vernal temple]

lmao I just overloaded and killed a chaos spawn

[torn kernel]

OUPPY

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/int-majin-vegeta-final-explosion-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-db-gif-16763453830015984469

[lapis violet]

which blitz do yall do for bubble psyker in havoc?

[vernal temple]

brain rupture

[lapis violet]

in order to get psykinetic's aura it's either bb or smite but like

one offers no ranged picks and the other is slow as all fuck

resulting in me crying for assail which will never come to me

[vernal temple]

you don't normally even use your blitz during a havoc mission. you CC with either trauma or purga staff

[plucky flax]

Get bb for kf.

It's free damage.

[vernal temple]

Is it free real-estate?

[lapis violet]

for picks because i haven't met a single player who was out there to pick off ranged enemies

[plucky flax]

[lapis violet]

actually hurts me

[vernal temple]

you can pick off ranged enemies with your primary staff attack if you're running Trauma, or if it's a sneaky psyker far away, just brain rupture him

and get back to CC

[lapis violet]

yeah if you're running trauma lol

why do you think i suffer

i have a trauma build and all it's just that i prefer purg for havoc

[vernal temple]

Then brain rupture is the only thing you have to deal with pesky ranged enemies, or rely on your teammates assuming they don't have tunnel vision

I personally prefer my bubble with rending trauma build. It got me thorough h40 and earned me the TS title

Not a fan of purga builds

[deft stump]

Yes, she floof. She kyoote, she gwemlin.

[upper sun]

brainburst should have a low damage low peril mode

press special while its equiped one hand goes down and u do 300 damage for half the peril cost

[vernal temple]

along with a oneshot but high peril mode

[upper sun]

press special again and 2 more hands show up

[vernal temple]

one-tap maulers and ogryn enemies but generate 75% peril

[upbeat kestrel]

For the 4 armed emperor

[vernal temple]

sounds like some kind of tyranid

[deft stump]

So errr, are you trying to get a Commissar on our ass?

I count 3 arms then.

[upbeat kestrel]

Tyranids look freaky. Slaanesh will be happy after im done

[marble crater]

With a sample size of 1, the Xbox fixes helped

[deft stump]

Better fps?

[lapis violet]

this is why zealot chat go slow moded

[icy breach]

BRUH

[vernal temple]

can't argue with that tho

[fleet charm]

I got Annie-Rection in my lobby yesterday 🙏

[vernal temple]

I think there's some cooky crazy high-level zealot goes by the name EmperorsRightTesticle or something like that

[marble crater]

Yeah, and it just feels more responsive so far, even on the Morningstar

[deft stump]

Watch as the game on pc and ps5 be worse for it now lul.

[upbeat kestrel]

Yep

[deft stump]

I heard ps5 ppl are crashing atm.

[marble crater]

Worth it

[vernal temple]

huh I didn't notice that Brute Conscripts is now on regular missions too

[marble crater]

Enough people wanted it there

[vernal temple]

fair

[deft stump]

Holy sheet we did it!

[marble crater]

Let everyone do the event, it's fair yes

Oh shit, I need to check a sedition mission with brute conscripts, is it like a wave of a single bulwark or something?

[deft stump]

XD

Maybe 1 bulwark and 1 crusher.

With no hp.

Well, to a lvl 1, that's actually scary.

[lapis violet]

yeah level 1s don't get a single tool to kill them

unless the psyker got a staff early on but i don't know if they do

[marble crater]

Starting weapon is a las pistol

[fleet charm]

Level 1 Brain Burst 🙏

[glacial vapor]

If you want a taste of the event on Sedition, just run Dark communion. Trying to take on 4 Crushers with a level 1 psyker after the shield breaks was an experience

BB actually one shots them on sedition though

[torn kernel]

i thought low diff dark communion had them replaced with maulers

[upper sun]

apparently they forgot

[glacial vapor]

Nope lol

[deft stump]

I think they changed it with the brute event.

[torn kernel]

ah

[deft stump]

Like to prepare for it.

I do hope they extended the event by a week at least for the ppl now able to play the event.

[lapis violet]

same guy btw

zhong wik

[jovial juniper]

[fleet charm]

Genuinely hate how funny this is

[deft stump]

John Wick. Or Zhong Li. Or both.

[deft stump]

You can find chaos oggys in low diffs now, they are like paper though.

[torn kernel]

i can imagine lmao

[quartz barn]

Wait what melee do you even start with on psyk?

[vernal temple]

of course it's a zealot

[quartz barn]

I remember using a shovel back in the closed beta, but we cant even use those

I guess its a taxe

?

[upbeat kestrel]

Devil claw

[vernal temple]

Devil claw yeah

Tac axe is for zealots, shovel is for vets

[quartz barn]

Honestly wouldnt be bad tbh

Especially since you start with a revolver too

[vernal temple]

A las pistol

[glacial vapor]

On Zealot? I wish...

Shredder pistol

Revolver takes a few levels to unlock

[deft stump]

You have a melee and you are gonna like it. You don't have a gun, like vet.

[lapis violet]

shredder autopistol is both better and worse than people think

[patent mango]

shredder autopistol is meta no1 uses it cause its too easy

[glacial vapor]

You will slaughter the heretics in glorious melee, just as the God-Emporer intended

[lapis violet]

why do zealots think that melee is the god-emperor's will if his most blessed weapons are the bolter and the humble lasgun? curious

[patent mango]

the bolter and lasgun are just bait

[jovial juniper]

Big dude also had a flaming sword

Sword

Check mate

[patent mango]

sienna is so back

[glacial vapor]

Sword + Power claw

Not a ranged weapon in sight

Glorious

[lapis violet]

psychic fucking powers though

[deft stump]

Where power claw so we can rip and tear?

[jovial juniper]

[lapis violet]

so no gun necessary if you can boil up the enemy's brain liquid

[jovial juniper]

So you're telling me
That as a psyker

I should melee

[patent mango]

yeah

[jovial juniper]

With psyker powers

Yeah I can do that

[patent mango]

the entire point of the powers is to melee more

[lapis violet]

but why would he bless guns more than melee weapons if he didn't want his subjects to use them?

[deft stump]

Buff up flame sword and claw.

[icy breach]

As from vt2?

[torn kernel]

this is machine spirit erasure

i will not stand for this

the omnissiah blesses all

[deft stump]

No, use psyker powers to buff them. I mean, what do you think the Emperor's flame sword is?

[icy breach]

You said flame sword & claw; thats siennas weapon

[patent mango]

oh my god

[icy breach]

Thats what i understood

[patent mango]

sienna is truly back

[jovial juniper]

Emperor's flaming sword is just The Belt™

[deft stump]

But is not power claw. Still, it fits, Obese Megalodon, where blue/warp fire sword and claw?

[upper sun]

next year

next patch is gonna be vet/ogryn or ogryn/zealot

[radiant frigate]

flame sword???

stagger crushers and apply soulblaze??

at an affordable price?

[upper sun]

no

never

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/im-gonna-explode-explode-explosion-gif-4544136717827095514

sudden realization that vt2 flame sword would be entirely obsolete because of blaze trauma

and quelling is free or even gives toughness

as opposed to venting

[autumn lark]

the new shop armor is looking crisp

[lofty marsh]

Gat damn

[strong gulch]

No havoc rewards again. lmao

[zinc phoenix]

this looks like a recolor of penance gear

also i gotta say do better with your knockoff stormtrooper armor

[marble crater]

Jokes on you, I got rewards for clearing Havoc 1 and now I am havoc 1

Instead I could be 38 if I had done nothing at all

[autumn lark]

Ah yes stormtroopers

Not truskan snow hounds

[haughty star]

Son of a bitch i just bought the stupid one last week

[analog agate]

Bottom of psyker looks… quite puffy

[upper sun]

its called thick

[marble crater]

It's for collecting all the warp

[deft stump]

So it actually did that xD

[deft stump]

You mean THICC?

[upper sun]

yes

[autumn lark]

I guess that one person that wanted cloth to cover the legs got what they wanted

[torpid bough]

FGS is what got me playing psyker again but the regular force swords are really good too why don't more people use them?

like you can straight up just kill anything with the Deimos

[jovial juniper]

Warp is stored in th-

[autumn lark]

Vic

Greatswords are cooler

[torpid bough]

yeah ur right

[autumn lark]

Also deimos is better than dueling blade but yknow everyone uses the dueling blade cause its meta

[torpid bough]

wonder if we will get a Deimos type FGS, with more single target attacks

[marble crater]

I use DS because I want to go fast

[buoyant maple]

U can refund in FS Forums

[icy breach]

The psiker helmet looks soo off with the rest of the set its criminal

Amazing coat tho

[deft stump]

Is to annoy vets, I think.

[buoyant maple]

psyker's new weapon skins

[queen fog]

oooo, winter skins

[icy breach]

Get every winter skin on

Que to smelter complex

[marble crater]

Die

[jovial juniper]

It's for carrying cryo rods
Trust

[vernal temple]

how does that even work? best I did last week was 22, yet it still shows me as 40

[marble crater]

Where Excise Vault?

[ionic harness]

Up nurgle's bum

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1333409477159817337/New_Bitmap2_Image.png?ex=6798c9d8&is=67977858&hm=93146c9159d6e20444bede9952f6759c7a2067b9b10635c23fc701eb0f839dd8&

[marble crater]

No idea as what it shows me, but I can only host havoc 1 now

[deft stump]

Seems about right.

[vernal temple]

well yeah, if the best havoc you've cleared last week is 1, then you'll be hosting level 1.

if the best you've cleared is 40, then you'll be hosting a 40

[marble crater]

Which is silly, but yeah

[vernal temple]

last week I could host 40, but didn't bother doing it, so now best I can host is 22

[steel flame]

Man forgor to finish a 40 before demoting to 1, rofl

[vernal temple]

[marble crater]

I didn't really forget, I just didn't do a 40

and I knew it would land me at 1 for this week

[strong gulch]

scammed

[vernal temple]

nothing at all... nothing at all...

[steel flame]

I excitedly await the death of havoc so we can get something fun

[deft stump]

I get a feeling you got true survivor already.

[marble crater]

The system is pretty silly, if you don't feel like doing high havoc for a week you are better off not playing the game mode at all than playing lower missions. For yourself and for the rest of the community, because it also means there are fewer people who can host high rank havocs now

[strong gulch]

Ye.

I'd prefer to be able to run up to any level that I've cleared.

Tempid take I know

[deft stump]

3 tries to go up, but perma unlocked if you finish it.

But it does mean getting someone who finished all to host since no fears then.

[marble crater]

Now I am curious if it shows me as havoc 1 or havoc 40 when I try to join people in the party finder might have to change my title to find a match if I decide to play with randoms

[steel flame]

Fatshark: Surely our new party finder is just unused because people dont know it's there, let's make havoc only work through it and surely more people will use it

Reality: terrible party finder is still terrible

[deft stump]

Better to just get rid of lives and allow quickplay.

Cos the problem with qp and lives is you can't even try to filter out troll builds and such.

[icy breach]

Allow inspection of gear; too many times ppl with not maxed gear go high lv havoc

[loud girder]

is this the best one i can get?

or is warp res better than defences?

[icy breach]

This is good

Keep it

[upbeat kestrel]

pretty much

[strong gulch]

WR is the dump

[loud girder]

nice!

[upbeat kestrel]

but the other mark is considered better

[marble crater]

By 50% of people

[deft stump]

Yes. Just pray hadron doesn't gunk it.

[loud girder]

gunk it?

also, do i consecrate it now to max? or?..

[deft stump]

A known bug where max stats shift.

[loud girder]

maybe i should wait till bug is fixed then?..

:/

[marble crater]

The stats shift by 1 or 2 %, nothing you need to worry about unless you suffer from OCD

[loud girder]

im a designer

OCD is built in

[marble crater]

Rip then

[loud girder]

hard coded

what are the odds of gunkage

[clear heath]

getting good stats is easy enough anyways
If hadron bricks it, just get another one

[marble crater]

Just upgrade it you won't even notice the difference in actual gameplay, the odds of it happening are not high

[earnest sand]

This happened to a few of mine 1% shifts. I just close my eyes when I have the weapon menu up

[deft stump]

Is a big diff on shotguns. 1 ammo in clip reeeeeeeeeeee

[clear heath]

just make more

[loud girder]

why is this good

[clear heath]

it isn't

[loud girder]

or is it simply not

ye figured ok

[autumn lark]

@broken carbon @tawdry drum

[deft stump]

Is okay if you run slow reload guns.

[loud girder]

i legitimately have no idea what im doing

i just came back yesterday

[strong gulch]

It's for really niche builds. Almost and always skip,

[loud girder]

i just randomly clicked some talents

whats greatswords' deal? gameplay wise

[ionic harness]

beeg sword shoots weeb wave

[deft stump]

Whack 11 or so mooks, stroke and boom.

[autumn lark]

legit might be the best psyker chest weve gotten

[strong gulch]

Valid. This is a good time to ask questions. Lots of people are on to tell you what's broken and then start fights about what's marginally better.

[marble crater]

Voidblast bad, please buff

[deft stump]

WW7 between MK6 and MK8.

[strong gulch]

It's an all-rounder. The only thing is it's on the slow side.

It tackles carapace, bosses, hordes etc all really well.

[last shore]

Does doing this remove my mods?

[loud girder]

when do i want to charge greatsword?

single target?

[deft stump]

Beeg hordes.

[strong gulch]

When I do it through steam it disables my mods; so I'd assume so.

[ionic harness]

you will need to rerun the bat file to re enable them afterwards, but better to click no. If you suspect your game is broken just do it through steam since its faster

[deft stump]

I mean, you skip the double scan lul.

[loud girder]

what does charging even do? just extra damage?

is this written somewhere in game

[ionic harness]

you passively charge the bar by getting kills, bigger things give more charge, charge boosts damage of next wave

[deft stump]

Just go into psykhanium, whack like 12 walkers/groaners to death, stroke while aiming at the bunched specials and walkers. Press fire.

Funni.

[steel flame]

Nah you can do better if you can get a final warp res of under 25 it's perfect for a damage build

[strong gulch]

You can use the special on FGS (force great sword) like an illisi, but saving it up to take out a horde or a bunch or smaller elites is much better.

It can also go through walls and undog someone. lmao

[ionic harness]

also it has a pretty funny / busted interaction with the bleed blessing on the bolt pistol

[marble crater]

While true, I am not sure how valuable that advice is for newer players

They have no money

[deft stump]

Also why you go assail with it.

[strong gulch]

60 WR is fine, but yes low WR that allows you to shriek at 6 SB (soulblaze) stack in 2 specials is good.

Low WR (like 30 and below with all other stats at 80) is expensive to gamble for.

[deft stump]

Also, risky. Newer players or very rusty players may boom themselves up due to the peril gen if not expecting it.

[marble crater]

If you boom then it's deserved

[deft stump]

When I remember I'm on a no peril reduction build on the EK. What do you mean every quick alt fire is 20-25% peril???

By the time I get to max flurry, I need to vent already.

[marble crater]

Why are you playing EK without peril reduction

[deft stump]

Is Assail build. I just needed a staff I can use on crushers that I can actually use.

[autumn lark]

im afraid that the entire set is peak

[stark crown]

This rotation I was considering doing Vet + Psyker seeing both Sets are really fucking good. Honorary mention for Zealot

Ogryn is probably the weakest of them but still really good

[autumn lark]

i with no joke say this is psyker's best set

krieg comes close but this is baller

[stark crown]

FGS skin also

Mfw they give Psyker

an actual fucking military uniform

[autumn lark]

icefall shard looks badass

[stark crown]

so I feel obligated to try it

[autumn lark]

my money after seeing this rotation

[stark crown]

Also return and recolor of the rashad's best skin

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-17500258755908763204

theres also ushanka hats for vet and ogryn

so im excited to see the full page

[stark crown]

NOT SLOP!!!! NOT SLOP!!!!

CODE RED

[deft stump]

When you want something you know you'll barely use.

[stark crown]

CODE RED

[loud girder]

yay it didnt brick

[ionic harness]

not yet

[stark crown]

Bricking? in this day and age of DT?

[upper sun]

GIVE ME THE OG NOW

[stark crown]

Sorry hate to say it Winter camo always trumps chud stock skins

[loud girder]

wdym not yet

[autumn lark]

Hey gale

Did you notice

[stark crown]

Huh

[deft stump]

Bricking comes from the other upgrade thing btw.

[autumn lark]

The right shoulderpad cloth is pinned with an aquilla

[stark crown]

I noticed that immediately

[autumn lark]

Actualy left+

[stark crown]

added the fact that

[ionic harness]

the bricking has a chance to occur when you upgrade the stats, not the rarity

[loud girder]

oh

[stark crown]

Oh for the love of GOD GIVE ME MORE HELMETS LIKE THESE PLEASE

[loud girder]

-_-

[ionic harness]

small percentage points really wont matter

[autumn lark]

No one noticed my extremely rare auric hammer charm

[cold trellis]

Bricking? You guys mean for low warp res?

[autumn lark]

The entire set radiates aura

[ionic harness]

the last bit from 60-80% only makes a small bit of difference

[stark crown]

I just want more actual fucking helmets

for Psyker

[ionic harness]

max stats changing when empowering

[stark crown]

cause they're far more than just typical space wizard 90% of the time

[loud girder]

will i eventually have them all maxed out?

or how does it work?

[ionic harness]

yes

[cold trellis]

Ah I see

[loud girder]

aight

[autumn lark]

Ok so what you do

(Very important)

[ionic harness]

once you reach a certain mastery rank you will have enough points to max everything

[autumn lark]

Is you grab like 20-30 grey weapons that are the same your trying to level up

[quick tulip]

Mastery 16-ish is 2-3 Tier 4 Blessings

maxed mastery will get you everything

[autumn lark]

Consecrate them to green and mass sacrifice

[loud girder]

huh

why?

[marble crater]

(If you have the money for that)

[quick tulip]

greens give the same xp as anything higher

[autumn lark]

Ill tell you young padawan

Gold sacrifice is 12000 xp

Green is 8k

[loud girder]

but what do i get for saccing that is so important?

[autumn lark]

But since going gold is expensive with materials you just spam green ones

[ionic harness]

you get mastery xp for saccing

[autumn lark]

Weapon xp

Which is how you get more blessing points and a higher rating when empowering